Yahallo~

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>people defending Haruno
Bullying one's imouto used to be an unforgivable crime against humanity. What happened?

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>>140073240
Best girl was the one doing the imouto bullying.
She was forgiven.

>>140073240
this scene will be the end someday. Judge from the first time she met him.

https://yaharibento.wordpress.com/2016/03/08/haruno-gazes-into-hachiman/

While waiting for OVA & PS vita, there're Oregairu characters analysis (such as Haruno) ready for you to read fully.

ps. these analysis were written with no mercy, so prepare your mind before read them.

>>140073240
seconding but it would be hard time for getting imouto or oneesan like Yukinon

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>>140074296
>Yukinon happily wearing a Hachiman suit
That is some odd symbolism.

>>140073240
Yukino is shit, so she was pardoned.

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Just here to post perfection.

>>140073240
Nothing. Things are as they should be.

>>140074385
Some of this is off, the reason she seemed to remember his name and why she checks him out is because he's the boy who was hit by the limo.

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>>140073240
You have to understand that people that like Haruno are not defending her. We all know she's a bitch and an evil succubus but that's why we like her.

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So, is Iroha a Haruno-in-training?

Yukino S1 design >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yukino S2 design.

Everything other design is better in S2.

Sensei > *

>>140076226
Iroha's just an attention whore.

>>140077580
>tfw sensei is your age

>>140076226
Closest one to being Haruno is actually Yukino. The other girls wouldn't be able to keep up.

>>140077628
So you choose death?

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>There are people out there who think Yumiko isn't love

>>140076226
Iroha is just a whore.

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>>140078799
We can't all have good taste. There must always be a few brave souls willing to be wrong for the sake of making others' taste seem better.

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>>140078872
She doesn't like you either, faggot

Don't bully autistic grill.

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>>140079151
This.

Yukinon may be a dork but that's cute in its own way

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>>140079203

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>>140072925
Haruno route better have a pregnant end.

>>140076226
Pretty much.

>>140079479
Is sensei still virigin ?

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>>140072925
8man would never be backed up in this relationship.

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>>140079517
Well in one of the Doujins she is

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>>140079517
Yes.

>>140079042
What does that have anything to do with her being a whore?

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>>140079523
Iroha is like haruno 10x better.

With Haruno you'll have the femdom onee-san that will step on your sorry ass all the time and will always take the lead in a relationship, you're basically her boipussy-minion.

With Iroha you can have a relationship with the same kind of spicy vibes but from a more equalitarian position/you in charge, throwing friendly bantz at each other in the most genuine way

>>140079857
>you're basically her boipussy-minion.
A significant fraction of /a/ likes that kind of thing, you know.

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>>140079857

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>>140079857
>With Haruno you'll have the femdom onee-san that will step on your sorry ass all the time and will always take the lead in a relationship, you're basically her boipussy-minion.

And that's why she's perfect and the best.

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>>140079479
Single teachers and students were meant to be in romantic relationships

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Looks like Yuki's mom got the Genuine

>>140079857
But there's nothing genuine about Iroha.

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>>140080071
Who didn't?

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>>140080145
Nobody

>>140080145
Speaking of which, I do wish there was a Doujin of 8man having some very rough sex with Sagami up on the school roof

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>>140080228
There are so many things wrong with that.

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>>140072925
assertive women is my biggest fetish

just looking at this gives me a boner

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>>140080269
>Implying that it won't turn to tender vanilla half way through.

Hate is another word for love.

When the fuck is volume 12?

>>140079857
Sorry anon I don't like flaky or shallow women. Iroha would just lead me on for shits and giggles. As cruel as Haruno is, I'm pretty sure she'd be more clear about what she wanted.

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Good Irohasu, everyone!

>>140080824
Fuck if I know, I just only hope that it doesn't end up in a loner ending.

>>140080888
A loner ending is fine. It wouldn't be terribly satisfying but it also wouldn't ruin the series outright like 8man dating within the club.

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>>140080121
>But there's nothing genuine about Iroha.
You know, it's kind of interesting to analyse this because Iroha gets close to 8man under the premise of liking Hayama and thus having no problem with letting it all out in front of him, and 8man doesn't have to do his mental gymnastics to explain why she's close to him because he's convinced she likes Hayama and he's deep in the acquitance/friend-zone.

Their relationship is based in this basic balance and this is exactly what lets them get close to each other openly with "no misunderstandings".

So, their relationship is as genuine as it gets if you think she likes Hayama and has no interest in 8man. If she does like 8man then even though all their interactions have been genuine the basic premise of their relationship is false.

It kind of depends on your personal view of their interactions. But even if the premise was a lie(i.e she likes 8man and not Hayama) that doesn't deny the moments she and 8man have shared, because again, they're both very open to each other, even though it would be thanks to a deception.

>>140073240
>>140075256
why do Yukifags dislike Haruno so much, shouldn't it be the opposite
pretty much all she does of note is tell 8man to stop acting like an autist and nut Yukino already, she's basically the Yukifag incarnate within the series for you guys to stand-in as

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Why no good fan art of haruno and 8man?

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>>140080765

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>>140080121
>using "genuine" as a character descriptor rather than a relationship descriptor
How to spot a level 0 reader in under 10 seconds.

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>>140080475

>>140081016
Their relationship is based on Hachiman constantly doing shit for her. That's the only reason she has an interest in him.

>>140081500
Not that anon but
>That's the only reason she has an interest in him
that clearly isn't true anymore ever since "take responsibility".

I dunno why people are so adverse to that, it's not like anything is actually going to happen. The only unpredictable thing about this series was how predictable it ended up being after the beginning of the series made people expect something different.

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>>140081426
Wrong series but all cake senseis are perfect. I approve

>>140081612
>take reponsibility by continuously doing shit for me

http://strawpoll.me/7352316

Vote please, I want to see how it goes down.

>>140074532
That is Pan-san. That is something Yukino loves and wants to cuddle with. That isn't 8man.

>>140081500
Boyfriends always do shit for their women, no?

>>140077628
>>140078872
This.

>>140082018
Hachiman only does that shit because he feels guilty for manipulating her into becoming student council president.

How does Yukino plan on breaking 8man and his lover apart for her twisted joke?

>>140082076
Nice tits.

>>140080765
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>140082153
delicious navel you must lick it

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>>140081978
>he doesn't know

Irohafags and Yuifags should be friends. I don't get why Yukinofags can't be friendly to Yuifgags and genuinely seem to hate her.

>>140082199
Nigga this isn't Boku no Pico

>>140082220
Nah, I'd rather lick her armpits

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Anyone know which episode this is from?

>>140082769
First special

>>140082822
Thanks

>>140073240
Kinda hard to get mad when the one getting bullied was YukinoSHITa.

So Haruno has no friends right?

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>>140082860
S-sure

I wonder if Haruno wants edgelord D on some level.

>>140082952
That from the love-hotel Doujin?

>>140076226
No she's just a wannabe Haruno who trembles when she catches the slightest glimpse of the real Harunon.

>>140083055
Well to be fair, EVERYONE want's the 8inch to some extent,

>>140083099
Even Yui?

>>140082956
No real friends.

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>>140083138
Especially Yui

>>140082769
OVA

>>140076226
iroha is too dumb to be a haruno

Yukinon is really pretty and quite the catch. She shouldn't be dating kimoi guys like 8man. She should pursue a great guy out there and let her friend Yui deal with that creepy and gross Hikki. Yui will make sure he doesn't pursue other girls and gross them out.

>>140081612
>that clearly isn't true anymore ever since "take responsibility"
>tell her to go away after that
>get blackmailed to do shit for her

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How hard will Yukino reject 8man when he confesses. I know he will expect it but how far will she go?

>>140082196
Sadly that's all she has going for her

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>>140084802
She will break him completely, she's made him cry before and is the person who has made him the most angry but none of that will compare to how she'll make him feel that day.

She'll tell him that she hates everything about him from the way he looks, to the way he acts, and what he believes in.

But unlike everyone else he didn't just give up and abandon her, even though he was being an ungenuine shit he did it for her under some misguided notions.

>>140084802
>implying 8man will ever confess to ANYONE ever again

>>140085174
When it comes down it the confession for a Yukino route can go ether way, Yukino can go ahead and try to find romance again by confessing to Hachiman or Hachiman can finally kill the monster of logic and self-consciousness and acting upon what he wants and feels rather than what he thinks.

>>140080804
When will Iroha give 8man her permission to die?

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reminder that Yukino hit the 8 before anybody else

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>>140085328
She won't because Nekonoshita will blow her away.

>>140073240

Yukino is a shitty disgusting pigwhore, so bullying is not only justified in this scenario but a moral obligation.

>>140085466
Friendly reminder that she was the only one that seriously hurt 8man. She projected her insecurities onto him and made him suffer.

>>140084802
Not as bad as when Yui rejects his confession.

>>140083055
>implying she doesn't already want it on every level

>>140085505
That's 8man's own fault for projecting the strengths he wish he had onto her.

I wonder, what would happen if 8man got drunk?

>>140081612
>I dunno why people are so adverse to that, it's not like anything is actually going to happen.
Iroha's pretty much the only chick I outright can't imagine ending up with 8man - and that's not stemming out of a dislike for her character or anything, I found the antics 8man and her got mixed up in to be way more entertaining than a lot of the dull mopey shit that made up a lot of the other parts of the story at that point even

I mean, nothing needs to be said about Yukino and Yui for obvious reasons
Sensei and Saki ends, setting aside that they have no chance in happening, are easy enough to see how they could work
and even Haruno and Orimoto could work and even be poignant I guess, what with Haruno basically being "older female 8man" and Orimoto being the chick at the start of 8man's story and all
I really can't see Iroha and 8man as anything more than just friends though

>>140085466
>Iroha is a shitty disgusting pigwhore
Fixed that for you

>>140085586
Not a chance. The fight was always about 8man doing things his way (hurting only one or two people) versus doing things her way (hurt as many people as possible). In the end, she fell straight into Haruno's little trap and took it out on everyone else for being such a fuckup.

>>140084543
>tell her to go away after that
No he doesn't? "After that" the scene ends

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>>140085466
>>140082894

>>140085896
He continuously tells her why she is in the Service Club and tells her to leave. However she always tricks them into doing shit for her.

>>140085852
>The fight was always about 8man doing things his way (hurting only one or two people) versus doing things her way (hurt as many people as possible).

What the fuck are you even talking about.

>>140085852
>The fight was always about 8man doing things his way (hurting only one or two people)
And not solving anything, instead just getting rid of the problem without any resolution making Rumi end up a loner, leaving Sagami depressed and losing her friends, hurt everyone by abandoning his own ideals and confessing to Ebina in front of Tobe, forcing Iroha into presidency, etc.

>doing things her way (hurt as many people as possible)
And solving the problem once and for all.
As far as I know none of Yukino's solutions have hurt anyone, rather she made Sagami pretty happy making her the Athletics Festival committee leader and making her take the job seriously, she taught Miura and Saki how to cook correctly, the most she's hurt someone in a request was taking down the guy from the Judo club.

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>>140081016
I think it's a lot simpler than that. From the beginning they didn't care what the other thought, thus acted with no decorum, and despite/because of that ended up getting along quite well. This is simply good compatibility, a real-world concept that Hayama formally introduced to the story back in the Orimoto date. Their relationship is genuine in much of the same way 8man and Hayama's relationship is genuine, even if the emotional content is completely different.

8man seeing Iroha as Komachi and Iroha's whole Hayama deal are simply due to them being teenagers with a poor grasp of their feelings. 8man for instance associates Iroha with Komachi because she's the only other person that he doesn't have to care about decorum (or romantic implications/misunderstandings) with at all. We don't know an awful lot about Iroha's personal relationships, but Hayama (who does) has outright said that Iroha's misplacing her feelings for 8man on himself.

As for when things will achieve critical mass between 8man and Iroha, it's a simple matter of when 8man is forced to address his delusion that his sister is a replacement for romance. (Watari is already setting up for this with Komachi's entrance exams and/or possibly Saki's otouto.) Just like Iroha has been filling in as 8man's source of happiness during Komachi's absence, she will also take over as his lover when 8man confronts the reality of blood relationships.

>>140072925
I totally want this.

>>140086116
>He continuously tells her why she is in the Service Club
yeah, he does ask her why she's there

>and tells her to leave
he doesn't do this though. Maybe he wants to but 8man doesn't even have the balls to be that upfront anyway

>>140086192
I could be wrong but I think this was on the vita?

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>>140085937
damn forgot to post the other one right away

>>140072925
any chance at another season

>>140086222
>Maybe he wants to but 8man doesn't even have the balls to be that upfront anyway
>Literally says they should kick her out, asks Miura if she would feel better if they just tell Iroha to leave multiple times.

>>140086116
Not that anon, but
>However she always tricks them into doing shit for her.
it's been stated why she keeps going to 8man to help. They didn't deal with her original problem the way they were supposed to and now he's basically stuck with her
as far as being dishonest/sly she's not even the worst offender in that room (not an Irohafag by the way, before someone spergs out at me over this)

>>140086165
>she will also take over as his lover when 8man confronts the reality of blood relationships.
Someone didn't read the Birthday chapter.

>>140086165
None of that shit makes any sense. Valiant effort though.

>>140086146
>And not solving anything, instead just getting rid of the problem without any resolution making Rumi end up a loner, leaving Sagami depressed and losing her friends, hurt everyone by abandoning his own ideals and confessing to Ebina in front of Tobe, forcing Iroha into presidency, etc.
He recognized them as superficial and treated them as such. He doesn't rely on others placing value on him. He's the center of his own universe.

>As far as I know none of Yukino's solutions have hurt anyone, rather she made Sagami pretty happy making her the Athletics Festival committee leader and making her take the job seriously, she taught Miura and Saki how to cook correctly, the most she's hurt someone in a request was taking down the guy from the Judo club.
Sagami was an incompetent fuckup who only got away with it because no one called her out for it. 8man was in the right to corner her.

Haruno's criticism of Yukinon holds: She's a deeply insecure incompetent fuckup who wants to place her problems on other people and gets mad when the fallout blows in her general direction. She was indecisive about becoming school president. This was repeatedly evident. She sent the wrong signals and took it all out on the wrong people in the end.

>>140086361
>it's been stated why she keeps going to 8man to help

Yes, because neither Hayato, Meguri nor the other people in the student council want to help her. Hachiman is the easiest one to manipulate, because he never says no.

>>140086431
>Haruno's criticism of Yukinon holds: She's a deeply insecure incompetent fuckup who wants to place her problems on other people and gets mad when the fallout blows in her general direction. She was indecisive about becoming school president. This was repeatedly evident. She sent the wrong signals and took it all out on the wrong people in the end.

It's sad how little you understand about the series.

>>140086364
>>140086389
Care to quote some specifics or are you just here to shitpost?

>>140086447
I was talking more about how the Service Club didn't provide the service she asked for but okay
what you're saying doesn't really conflict with my point either I guess

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>>140086495
How about you don't write garbage in the first place.

>>140086495
Looks like you really didn't read the birthday chapter, go read it the scene is blatantly obvious, especially when Yukino mentions the blood relation of him and Komachi.

>>140085937
>>140086255
Can't wait for the date OVA

>>140086589
>>140086591
Shitposting it is.

>>140086616
I'm not going to spoonfeed you, go read Birthday Song For You.

>>140086636
Supporting your arguments isn't "spoonfeeding".

By the way, I did. You're full of shit.

>>140086616
Iroha is a distraction that Hachiman hides behind when he's too afraid to deal with Yukino and Yui's feelings.

>>140086487
Fact of the matter is: She deliberately hurt 8man for something he really didn't do.

>>140086495
Aren't these threads mostly just shitposting

I mean it's usually filled with arguments over whether x character is a bitch or not - even though there's no realy argument to be had at all since it's been made blunt that every main character in this series is a dishonest schemer, it's sort of part of the setting of the story and all

>>140086736
Also not true. You really don't understand everything that happened from volume 7-9 let alone the premise of the series. The person hurting Hachiman the most is Hachiman himself.

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>>140086165
I think my original point still stands in the respect that 8man being able to see Iroha as a little sister and allowing her to get close to him is all thanks to that basic premise of their relationship (Iroha being in love with Hayama / 8man being 100% a friendzoned grunt).

If Iroha says that she doesn't like Hayama anymore then plot would probably kick in because they lose the "facade" that let them get close at first. 8man would just treat her like he treats Yui or Saki.

The last part about Komachi being a replacement for love to tell you the truth i've never seen it that way, to me it just looks like any other close sibling relationship.

>Just like Iroha has been filling in as 8man's source of happiness during Komachi's absence, she will also take over as his lover when 8man confronts the reality of blood relationships.
We can only pray, brother

>>140086691
Then you should remember how Hachiman responds about his blood relation to Komachi, he doesn't care about it.
But if they had no blood relation he would just jump her and Komachi is perfectly fine with that, Yukino questions their relationship.

She repeatedly calls him a siscon.

>>140086701
So what you're saying is he has fun with Iroha and he is afraid of Yukino and Yui.

>>140078209
>tfw sensei is younger than you

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>>140086810
This is what I'm saying.

>>140086810
No 8man can be honest and himself around people he doesn't care about but he's he's afraid to act around the people he cares about.

>>140086777
The only time he ever felt insecure is when he didn't get to do things his way.

And again, Yukinon is the only person in the entire series who deliberately went out of her way to hurt 8man.

>>140079479
i need this

>>140086882
That was a necessary evil and with those words she stopped his martyr bullshit once and for all.

Uh sorry im late guys
Are we ever getting season 3 or should i just give up and read

>>140086882
You calling her Yukinon already discredits your entire argument. The entire point to Yukino wanting to become student council president was to stop Hachiman from hurting himself.

>“It’s because I realized that there wasn’t anything that I could do that I started wanting to have something that you and nee-san didn’t have… I thought that if I had that, then I can save something.”
>“Save what?”
>Just what exactly was it that she needed and what was it that she could save? I wanted to fill in those lacking words so I asked her. However, Yukinoshita wouldn’t tell me.
>“…Who knows? What could it be, I wonder?”
>Yukinoshita’s only response was a girlish smile as if she was testing me. Perhaps the answer to that question was her “reason”. Why did Yukinoshita Yukino try to become a candidate during that student council election?
>Or possibly, what was it that she had yet to talk about or that I didn’t try to ask about? Here I was not asking her about the meaning of those words in that instant when that ride was going to fall. And Yukinoshita didn’t touch on it either. She talked about something else in bits and pieces as if substituting for that. It was like that mistaken wish that someone had where you could understand even if you didn’t talk or ask about anything.

>>140086908
8man doesn't see himself as a martyr.

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>>140086961
>The entire point to Yukino wanting to become student council president was to stop Hachiman from hurting himself.
Aside from that she also wanted it for herself.

>>140086882
Here's your precious Yui:

>“…I don’t really like seeing you in pain, Hikki.”
>“Saying that is unfair.”
>Despite my outburst, I could tell how soft my tone was. Perhaps it was my exhaustion. Being told something like that with such a gentle voice along with the shoulder massage only caused my shoulders to relax. >Simultaneously, I tensed my shoulders again. For a wonderful girl to give me those kinds of words, this was nowhere near the time to give up and run away. It’s when you were given these kind and sweet words that you mustn’t rely on them and abandon yourself to. That’s why it only gave me less of a choice to resign here no matter how idiotic the circumstances are or how difficult the problem is.
>“You think so…?” Yuigahama stopped her hands and rested them on my shoulders, eventually lifting them up slowly.
>“Oh, uh, it was more like a figure of speech.”
>I chose the wrong words when I called the person who was worried for me unfair. I rotated my chair and turned my body towards Yuigahama. I sat there while digging around for the proper words to tell her. Yuigahama, however, didn’t give me the time and nodded.
>“…Yeah, I think I am unfair!” Yuigahama said, her voice cheerful and as though she was convinced of something. I didn’t quite catch the meaning behind her response, but I wanted to get the right nuance across to her and opened my mouth.
>“I didn’t mean it like that, but uh, in a good way…”
>Yuigahama, however, shook her head and interjected. “I think… I really am unfair… It’s because I can never stop you or even help you. And also… for a bunch of other things.”

>>140086792
>Hachiman responds about his blood relation to Komachi, he doesn't care about it.
>But if they had no blood relation he would just jump her
You've shown within your own post how 8man was being self-contradictory at that time. I used the word "delusion" for a reason.

And besides that conversation was besides my point anyway. 8man can lust after Komachi as hard as he wants, however the reality is he can't fuck, marry, and start a family with her. He'd be damaging not just his own, but her livelihood as well by doing so.

Why do you think that Komachi constantly sets him up on dates? It's clear as day that she wants him to get a girlfriend as well.

>>140086995
That's not how he sees himself but that's because he hold no value in himself, he thinks he's expendable but also thinks that he's better than everyone because he's able to throw away everything for such pointless bullshit.

Everyone just ends up looking at him with pity.

>>140086961
She did it immediately after Haruno called her weaksauce. That doesn't do well for her argument. She's inherently harsh on other people too- not just 8man.

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>>140086996
Oh, like how she wanted to become committee chairman during the Cultural and Sports Festival.

>“The truth is, we still haven’t decided a chairperson for the Sports Festival committee……. So, will you do it, Yukinoshita-san?”
>Yukinoshita blushed under her fixated stare, however, she still seemed to have a little bit of strength inside of her to object, and managed to gently extract her hand from Meguri-senpai.
>“I reject.”
>“As I expected~”

>>140087176
She wanted to become president, she rejected that position and instead gave it to Sagami to stop her from being depressed.

>>140087127
Because at first she wanted Hayato to take the position. Haruno said if she wanted it done, she should do it herself.

>>140087202
Absolutely not. Yukino didn't want it at all. However, then after putting some thought into it, she came to the conclusion that by redeeming Sagami, Sagami would stop spreading rumors about Hachiman.

>>140087266
Her goal was Student Council President, not Athletics Committee Leader.

>>140087308
Her goals wasn't student council president either. Only because she had no other option left to stop Hachiman, did she decide to become that. Hachiman told her there was no one that was competent enough and that there wasn't enough time to find someone else. She wanted Hayato to go for the position, but Haruno told Yukino to do it herself.

>>140072925

Does anyone else always have Haruno's voice stuck in their head?

>>140086869
That was precisely the point stated in >>140086165

What you're failing to get is that he develops feelings toward those people that "don't matter" anyway, provided he spends enough time around them. If 8man doesn't care about Iroha why did he confront Hayama after he rejected her, or comfort her afterward? What about Rumi, Saika, Sensei, and Komachi?

His behavior toward the club is detrimental, but while the club attracts that negative attention he's growing healthy relationships elsewhere.

>>140087409
What you're failing to understand is that Hachiman does all that shit out of a sense of guilt because he forced Iroha into a position she didn't want to be in, because he wanted to save the Service Club.

>>140082952
Sensei had a rough pussy in this doujin, kinda like a cow's snatch. Just go look at it

>>140087353
Yukino did it because she's insecure.

>>140087453
>Hachiman does all that shit out of a sense of guilt
I thought you said he does it to distract himself from the club?

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>>140087408
Voice of an angel to be quite honest

>>140087353
>Her goals wasn't student council president either.
Nope, did you miss the last part about the elections when it was said that "some people need a reason to move"?.
Yukino probably had mixed feelings about the elections, but from what we can see deep inside she had the desire to run and follow Haruno's steps but she had no reason to convince herself to do so.
When Iroha shenanigans happen she gets her reasons (helping Iroha and stopping 8man from doing dirty deeds).

That's exactly why she was shown to be somewhat down when 8man convinced Iroha to be the president, and what made 8man decide to help Iroha alone with the christmas event. To avoid hurting the part of her that actually did want to be the stuco president.

We can argue whether her motivations are legit or not (If she wished to do it herself or it was all to follow Haruno) but a part of her indeed wanted to do it.

>>140087506
As a matter of fact, Yukino's greatest fear is that people may think of her as being weak and delicate.

>>140087513
Both. At first he did it to distract himself and out of a sense of guilt, later on after he made up with the Service Club primarily guilt. Also because Iroha constantly tricks them into doing shit for her.

>>140087409
>If 8man doesn't care about Iroha why did he confront Hayama after he rejected her
Because 8man wanted to understand Hayato's actions, Hayato is someone who he doesn't understand but does come to understand over time.
He's the reason why he abandoned his ideals but wanted to know why he would reject someone he liked him and didn't want to hurt.

>or comfort her afterward?
That's just how 8man is.

>What about Rumi, Saika, Sensei, and Komachi?
What about Rumi?
With Saika he keeps his distance despite fawning all over him and Totsuka knows this. The first time 8man actually sees him as more than just some boypussy is in Volume 10 when he sees him as the captain.
Hiratsuka is a special case with her being his teacher but he still avoids her if he can.

Komachi is Komachi he tells her to fuck off when he doesn't want to talk about something and they fought for a good while.

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>>140087591
Did you miss the part where halfway in the series Yukino says she doesn't want to be like her sister anymore? This takes place before season 2.

>>140087643
I doubt it. 8man is very good at sensing social tension in the room. He sensed that Yukino was aiming and preparing to fire, so he went into full damage control mode.

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>>140087575
>>140087408
Does anyone else always have best girl's best voice stuck in their head?

>>140087711
The festival looked like it was the height of Yukino's development.

She says she doesn't want to be like her sister, stands up to her herself, trusted 8man and both were able to grow closer by the end.

Then Volume 7 came and fucked all that up.

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"I want the genuine Senpai"

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>>140087819
Then she should be with her genuine senpai.

>>140087804
No, Hachiman wanted to sacrifice himself and Yukino wanted to stop him, so he went behind her back and showed her how powerless she was. Yukino failed at the one thing she set out to do since the first episode.

>Yukino was aiming and preparing to fire

>After Isshiki's detailed explanation, Yuigahama and I let out a short sigh. Not even an amazed voice came out. It must’ve been one of those types of sighs. When we went silent, the peaceful time continued on. That silence, however, wasn’t only because of us. It was also because Yukinoshita, who to this day would assertively inquire about the details of the circumstances, had said nothing. Noticing that, I looked at Yukinoshita. Her long eyelashes were softly lowered and she looked at Isshiki, no, at us with eyes as clear as the surface of a lake. Instantly, I came to realize what that feeling of discomfort was. It was that feeling of discomfort that emerged from that feeling of relief when Isshiki came into the room and being relieved afterwards. It was in regards to the fact that nothing had happened when Isshiki and Yukinoshita confronted each other face to face. What if Yukinoshita had earnestly wanted to be the student council president? The one who had prevented her from doing so was Isshiki and above all else, me. If so, then wasn’t this request somewhat cruel? If we accepted the request, then that was equivalent to being a substitute for the student council president. I still didn’t know what Yukinoshita’s true feelings were, but I thought that it was really heartless to drop the duties of the student council in front of Yukinoshita. Having something you wanted, but couldn’t grab a hold of dangled in front of you was surely nothing but cruel.

>>140087743
>Yukino was aiming and preparing to fire

>>140087931
>However, Yukinoshita’s transparent voice rejected that possibility. Her faint smile that questioned us wasn’t a compromise. This was giving in. A conclusion upon resignation. It was simply a concession that left the issue to the judgment and conclusion of someone else’s.


Made a little mistake.

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>>140073240
Fiends, I tell you. Fiends.

So it has become painfully obvious to me that not a single one of you understands the series. I will try and fix it as much as I can in let's say 2-3 weeks or so, depending on when we get spoilers for ANOTHER, but it is really sad that this is the state of the Yahari fanbase.

>>140088062
Fuck off no one wants your loner end bullshit.

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>>140088172

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>>140087785
Of course

>>140087696
>Because 8man wanted to understand Hayato's actions, Hayato is someone who he doesn't understand but does come to understand over time.
>He's the reason why he abandoned his ideals but wanted to know why he would reject someone he liked him and didn't want to hurt.
Pretty good so far but:
>That's just how 8man is.
This is where your theory falls apart. I'm sure you realize this though.

>What about Rumi?
Him seeing Rumi is still alone at the christmas event, he's clearly emotionally motivated in her case.

>With Saika he keeps his distance despite fawning all over him and Totsuka knows this. The first time 8man actually sees him as more than just some boypussy is in Volume 10 when he sees him as the captain.
>Hiratsuka is a special case with her being his teacher but he still avoids her if he can.
>Komachi is Komachi he tells her to fuck off when he doesn't want to talk about something and they fought for a good while.
What do any these statements have to do with the point? 8man has avoided and fought with the club members plenty of times, why are any of the isolated cases with these any different?

>>140088415
Because he didn't fight with them?

In Komachi's case she was the one who ignored and avoided him not the other way around.

>>140088172
>>140088208

Translation please?

>>140087931
>>140087971
It really seems like the importance of the event lied not on whether Yukino wanted to be president or not, but the fact that 8man revoked her ability to choose in the first place.

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>>140088376
Hayami-friends are the best.

>>140088878
>Because he didn't fight with them?
>what is nice girls rant
>what Tobe confession
>what is stuco arc

At this point you're not disregarding the point, you're disregarding the story altogether.

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Yukinon x Ka-kun OTP

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>>140089282

i hope there is a season 3 and it is like season 1 but it wont be

>>140089882
Why wouldn't it be? The romance drama is over and they are going back to chilling.

>>140079523
No. Canon in one of her rants she tells she's had live-in boyfriend who sponged off her before disappearing with her furniture.

>>140084802
If by reject you mean jump into his lap and sticking her tongue down his throat while getting wet in her nether regions, then yes her rejection will be thorough and lifelong

Why does Yui think she is unkind and unfair? Is it because she tried to make Yukino swallow her feelings and destroy 8man's chance at genuine because she can't handle someone being his girlfriend but her?

>>140090680
Translation?

(Also what Doujin?)

>>140090787
That is nothing to hate yourself over.

>>140090771
That is Yui rejecting 8man.

>>140086146
Wrong, making iroha president was good for Yukino and iroha both. Even hiratsuka-sensei didn't think Yukino was socially developed enough for that. Hachiman helped Saki, was correct about Sagami who came to Yukino for help then deliberately made Yukino suffer so she could goof off with friends. Sagami redeemed herself after being ashamed of herself as she well should have been.

>>140090068
It's going to be 10 episodes of vague discussion about the state of their relationship again

>>140086938
The written story ends in the same place as S2, there isn't even a start for S3 material. The stories have much the anime skipped though

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(Hikigaya-kun, what are you doing? Chores perhaps?)
(Lay off)

Yui-senpai, you never button up your blazer. Why is that?

Ahh, this

(ahaha)

It's just that it's tight around my chest...

Something the matter?

Nope, nothing

Ah, is that so

What's wrong?

Isshiki's eyes aren't laughing at all...
Also why has Yukinoshita been glaring at me this whole time.

Man I haven't done this in forever, I'll probably do a bunch more on Iroha's birthday

>>140091068

> making iroha president was good for Yukino

Under no circumstances was it good for Yukino. Becoming student council president is what she wanted. Haruno knew it and even hinted at it to Hachiman. Yukino's problem as it has been throughout the series is that she cannot stand up for what she wants. Hachiman took that opportunity away from her. By what he did he was telling her essentially "stay with me because I'm afraid to lose you". He basically jolted her dependency back.

You're reading too much into Sensei's comments. Yukino had no trouble being the effective chairman for the festival. She could have been student council president. And even if she had trouble, so did Iroha. And it would have been an opportunity for her to grow, just as it has been for Iroha.

>>140086961
Wrong, her running for president wouldn't stop Hachiman and she gave up when she could have run against iroha. She was halfassed about it

where's my boy spyro

>>140086996
No, she could have run against iroha if she really wanted it, that was just nomination hachinan "collected" not the actual election. But she gave up, "no reason to act" as long as someone really ran

>>140091068
>Even hiratsuka-sensei didn't think Yukino was socially developed enough for that.

That wasn't the reason. Everyone would have loved Yukino as the student council president. The problem is Yukino would have found no happiness there if it meant she would leave Hachiman and Yui. Except Yukino's plan was to drag them along with her, like Meguri said. HYY being the student council members was Yukino's plan.

>>140091420
No one cares.

Things just died after S2 fucking Watari where is the new volume

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Posting end game pairing

>>140091446
Are you literally rejecting an actual excerpt from the novel? Is this how retarded the Yahari fanbase is?

>>140091498
Yukino and 8man are the same in that regard.

They don't act upon the things they truly want if they don't have a reason to, take away the reason and they don't act.

Yukino ran for president to beat Iroha but since Iroha accepted her role as president there was no need to continue the request rather her continuing on would be the opposite of what they were supposed to do.

holy fuck the grammar

>>140091539
Except even with all that 8man would have never accepted her becoming president because he doesn't want her to leave the club.

Even if him and Yui were with her he wouldn't have wanted that way because he alone wouldn't have been able to be with them or by sensei's words, her.

It's the reason why when he asks himself if he could go back in time or like loading a game in a save to get a different ending, that he wouldn't have changed a thing.

>>140091421
But Yukino could have run, hachinan didn't take that from her, he only made iroha a candidate she wussed out, and it certainly would have been bad for her as she would have neglected club and friend Yui. Note she didn't tell Yui until confronted

Yukono was just floundering about as she does in life

anyone got a pdf for vol11?

>>140092297
Yes, but that doesn't change that this was Yukino's plan.

>>140093043
Here:

https://d2.maxfile.ro/vuhriktenf.pdf

>>140093271
thanks anon

>>140093290
No problemo

The day this annoying light novels ends will the fucking memes end as well.

>>140083152
>>140082956
Nobody has real friends.

Daily reminder that Yukino's character song is a meme and should be disregarded.

>>140093522
Nice meme

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Post characters who should have gotten a song

>>140093522
This. There is no way her song's lyric reflect reality.

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>>140093737
Liquid Sensei best girl

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>>140093737
Did sensei get a character song?

>>140094072
Yes

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>>140093835
>>140093522

denialfags should know there won't be anything but a singed smoldering hairbun in the ocean left of their ship

>>140072925
Is this an edit?
I don't remember this scene.

>>140094072
Yes, she wonders about how Hachiman will be when he's an adult, and her regrets about not giving her love letter o someone when she was in school.

>>140094072

UNTIL THE TIME WHEN YOU BECOME AN ADULT (Hiratsuka-sensei's character song, trans. by FatFluffyFish)
I still have no idea what kind of an adult you will turn into, but

as I think about the future

I light up yet another cigarette.


It’s still too early to go and reminisce about yesterday.

Right now, you just have to be reckless. Follow your heart and you will be fine.

The meaningless doodles and the dreams drawn at the corner of the notebook.

Even when you become an adult, your heart will still sway to the usual things


Ah, a gentle breeze blows past, bringing with it the scent of youth.

The wide sky and the the future beyond the window, dazzled so brightly in the past.


When you become an adult, it’s more than enough

if you can recall the past memories, even if it’s just a little bit.

In the old staff room

What kind of an adult will you become? I don’t know that but,

The thoughts about tomorrow raced about inside me

and I lit up yet another cigarette


No matter how I wrote it, I couldn’t give the love letter that was hidden in my desk.

If I had given it during that time, I wonder if anything would’ve changed.


Ah, how the times fly. Though we can no longer return to the past,

my throbbing heart on that day, I can still feel it right now.

When you become an adult, it’s more than enough

if you can recall the past memories, even if it’s just a little bit.

On the road home that is illuminated by the sunset

I don’t know what kind of adult you will become

Pinning my wishes on tomorrow

I light up yet another cigarette


When you become an adult, it’s more than

if you can recall the past memories, even if it’s just a little bit.

This classroom with the scent of tea

I don’t know what kind of adult you will become but,

as I think about the future

I light up my cigarette once again.

>>140094406

Sensei is totally an aging chain smoking broken down Yukino filled with regrets.

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>>140094461
you left out violent, alcoholic, used-goods, and having improper relationship with male student.

makes my dick hard

8man should confess to Yui. Once she rejects him she and him can move on in life.

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>>140094820

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>>140091727

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>>140094281
it's one of the (better) routes in the new ps vita VN game coming in July

attached fan pic not in game but just because

>>140082499
Shit, you got me. I was emulating the "Black people react" meme, but yeah, you got me.

>>140072925
The first VN was all fun and games.
I wonder if the second VN will be drama filled and how much drama there will be in the Yukinoshita sister routes.

>>140096105

If OP's pic is from an actual Haruno romance (I am doubtful), someone is going to have to keep a close eye on Yukino's wrists.

>>140096105
I never played the VN or anything so can i ask you how romantic the routes are? I mean, you get into a route and does it go full romance or maybe just deepening your relationship with some romantic undertone?
Do the girls and 8man stay consistently in character through the game?

>>140096426

Not the one you are responding to. From what I understand the first VN had no romances.

>>140086146
>As far as I know none of Yukino's solutions have hurt anyone
Except Yui and 8man. Yukino rejects 8man's methodology. That doesn't mean she cares or understands who he is as a person. Yui at least cares.

>>140096960
Tell me how her solutions have hurt Yui in the least.

>That doesn't mean she cares or understands who he is as a person. Yui at least cares.
If that were true she would have tried to help him instead of looking at him like a kicked puppy.
Yukino only cares about the real 8man she doesn't want some faker who cares about superficiality.

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>>140072925
Would she make a good mother?

>>140097168
8man and Yukino have to completely different interpretations of superficiality.

8man obviously believes that's it's something to be toyed with at no expense. For all of his reputation as an outcast, he's really socially acute. OTOH, Yukino is just plain autistic. She's not onto his game like Haruno or Iroha are.

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>Cake-Ai

A boy falls in love with a Christmas Cake.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the mature woman's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the mature woman, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the cougar he called is not the same cougar he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the lady's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of CAKES.

>>140097529
Actually their definition of superficiality is exactly the same, the only reason why he abandoned his beliefs was because he was able to see things from Hayato's point of view.

The difference between Yukino and Hachiman however is that she will stick to those beliefs no matter what.

>>140097717
FINDS

>>140097717
>20 year old
>Christmas cake

>>140097884
not true, Yukino also drifted into superficiality instead of talking about problem between club members. Also almost accepted Yui proposal for everything to stay stagnant and comfy until Yui would "take it" at the the end. Yukino is GUILTY just like Hachiman.

>>140097884
>Actually their definition of superficiality is exactly the same, the only reason why he abandoned his beliefs was because he was able to see things from Hayato's point of view.
I don't think 8man ever cared for Hayato's point of view. He stated repeatedly that it wasn't for him.

>>140097917
I'm 19 and still see girls 20 and over as cakes.

14-19 is where the spring of youth is niggas, ripe fruits ready to pick up

>>140097969
>Also almost accepted Yui proposal for everything to stay stagnant and comfy until Yui would "take it" at the the end.
As opposed to 8man who did accept the proposal until he saw Yukino's reaction?

>>140098039
>I don't think 8man ever cared for Hayato's point of view. He stated repeatedly that it wasn't for him.
It was for 8man's own self-satisfaction but the reason he acted was because he understood Hayato's point of view, it's also why the club falls into superficiality.

>>140097917
besides being 5 or 6 years too young to be krizmz kek, Haruno has the opposite problem of a cake, too many men would want her. A cake is unwanted.

>>140097717
CAN'T DEFY THE KEIT-AI

>>140097717
Stop posting this because it already found a way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rz1bluG_k

>>140098198

your silly view has nothing to do with the Japanese (or /a/'s for that matter) definition of "Christmas Cake", which is unwanted woman over 25 years old. December 25 being christmas, so the say 25 years being the christmas cake year.

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>>140098039
Regardless of how 8man feels about 8man, he's still doing the exact same thing even in the latest volume.

>>140098206
>As opposed to 8man who did accept the proposal until he saw Yukino's reaction?
Did 8man know what Yui was actually saying or did he just think "Yui is a good girl so her solution is kind"? I doubt he would really go for what Yui actually meant.

>>140085350
Seems at his best with Saika there.

>>140099807
>Above all.
>Yuigahama is probably not wrong. I have a hunch that she had always seen the right answer. I think that it would definitely be easier to just accept it. However....
>Is leaving the incorrect things the way they are the right thing to do? Surely, that is the truth that we are seeking?
>Yuigahama looked on kindly as I gnashed my teeth attempting to answer her. Following that, she gently took Yukinoshita’s hand.

>>140087575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvnKcR10ZvQ

I finished watching this today.
Who the fuck put a Batman mask on 8man in the opening to the last episode? I really wasn't expecting that.

>>140100602
So I am right. He seems to be referring the loss of genuine more than the problem she was referring to.

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>when she doesn't win the genuine

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>when she wins the genuine

>>140101091
>She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply.
>The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong.
>Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right.
>“Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected.
>Yukinoshita looked at me in surprise upon hearing my slightly raised voice.
>“I cannot accept this proposal. Yukinoshita should solve her own problems herself.” Clenching my fists suddenly, I faced Yuigahama. I saw Yuigahama’s mouth tensing up, with an unusually cold look in her eyes.

It's always been about genuine, what they don't want is false superficiality.

>>140101534
>>140101507
There is no easy way to explain why things happen the way they do, but girls like Yui who hide behind a mask would rarely win someone like 8man. But not to say that Yukino isn't wearing as mask, but she's not doing it for social reasons.

>>140101675
Yes, they all want it but the contents of Yui's proposal are horrible and I am not sure 8man understood beyond not genuine and hurting Yukino.

>>140091613
more like complete shit

I am so glad Yui isn't the sort of girl who would step on someone's neck for Hikki. I was worried she might go for broke. I am also glad that she would stay both their friends if she lost out on him and Yukino won.

>>140086781
>I think my original point still stands in the respect that 8man being able to see Iroha as a little sister
This is a chicken and egg situation of sorts. I just think that 8man sees her as an imouto because he's comfortable with her, rather than he's comfortable with her because he sees her as an imouto. The main distinction is that he started acting like he does with Komachi automatically, rather than making the mental connection that she was similar and following it up with the kind of treatment he gives her.

And really, all things considered, Iroha really isn't all that much like Komachi to begin with.

>allowing her to get close to him is all thanks to that basic premise of their relationship (Iroha being in love with Hayama / 8man being 100% a friendzoned grunt).
This remains true, though again I think it's subconscious behavior on Iroha's part just like it is 8man's.

>If Iroha says that she doesn't like Hayama anymore then plot would probably kick in because they lose the "facade" that let them get close at first. 8man would just treat her like he treats Yui or Saki.
I don't know if it would be that extreme, the Hayama excuse gets used questionably (IE having 8man taste-test Hayama's chocolate) that she could probably replace it with any other excuse and he'd follow along. The core reason why 8man allows himself to fall for her antics is because he genuinely enjoys her company, he won't cut her off for a trivial reason. The date for instance was technically for the Student Council too, not just Hayama.

>The last part about Komachi being a replacement for love to tell you the truth i've never seen it that way, to me it just looks like any other close sibling relationship.
He's outright stated that he doesn't need a relationship as long as he has his sister. This isn't even reading into things, he's completely direct about it and even announces it to potential love interests.

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>tfw no happy sensei end

>>140102996
>He's outright stated that he doesn't need a relationship as long as he has his sister. This isn't even reading into things, he's completely direct about it and even announces it to potential love interests.
Unfortunately for 8man, Komachi doesn't feel the same way.
What 8man does admit is that he doesn't care about having a girlfriend.

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>"Hikki is mine, you are never going to have him"

>>140073240
>bullying
So you lot want Yukino to remain a useless doll? Cool.

Since HayamaxYukino is a forgone conclusion in ANOTHER how do you think it will go and how will the fans take it?

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>>140104474
Yes.

>>140104518
Yui and 8man are going to pretend to be dating and Yukino has yet to realize that she's in love with Hachiman so expect Yukino to show discomfort but not say anything while 8man wonders what's going on with her followed by some YY drama then reveal that it was all a dream.

>>140104634
What caused this dream? Was it the time Yui caught Hikki and Yukinon wrestling on the club table or was it the time Hikki lose his keys in Yukinon's skirt and had trouble finding them?

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>>140097717
ALWAYS

S3 when?
I thought I was the only one who had haruno as best girl. Though this is cAuse i watched and s2 before s1 and that scene in the cafe made me fall in love

>>140096361
> someone is going to have to keep a close eye on Yukino's wrists
Are we sure she loves 8man?
Or do we know she likes him enough to be THAT bothered?
She might just have adependence relashionship like with her family( and probably Hayato, when they were kids, before he started making too many friends leaving her behind)

>>140105006
She's been bothered by anyone but her or Yui getting close to Hachiman since the beginning.

>>140105094
She seemed sorta bothered by Yui during the 3P date. Like when Yui gave him cookies. I wonder what she would have done if Yui had confessed right then and there.

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So we can all agree that even though she didn't get much screen time Saki would be the best gf for 8-man right?

>Not attached to any of the other harem-girls
>Family oriented
>Probably the only chick who would be up to have a house-husband
>Tall
>Great Figure
>Shy but not a generic tsundere-wannabe like Yukino and Yumiko
>Loner
>Has a high opinion of 8-man

I won't call her the "best waifu" cause you spergs will ignore it but you know she would be the best in a relationship with him

>>140105231
Moot point. She doesn't like him. His edgelord babble only gets Yui moist.

>>140105322
Yui doesn't even understand his edgelord babble, his edge only makes Yukino wet because she can fight him about it.

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>俺の青春ハイパードラマは間違っている
オレ・ノ・ヒフ・ヲ・ハウ

>>140105322
there are a ton of hints that she's into him

shes dismissive of fucking everyone other than her family and him

even fucking pretty boy and the teacher

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CRAWLING IN MY SKIN

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TASUKETEKUDASAI

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>>140105527
That was for his own good rather than hers.

Rumors about her and 8man were beginning because of the festival, when they were in Kyoto the girls in her class would start to talk about romance and stuff like that then ask her about him, which is why leaves her room and runs into him in the lobby.

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何も分からない

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>>140104474
I'm fine with her current development, but a part of me can't help but love older Yukino. Far from useless doll, she was untouched, flawless, and pure.

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ゲンジツ・ノ・コト・ヲ・トリチガエテ

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>>140105674
>>140105781

>>140078926
Japan never seems to stop amazing me. Now they draw girls getting splattered with bird shit and still make it look cute.