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I know I'm not perfect at giving my body what it needs to refuel after a run. Recognizing my bad habits has helped me pay more attention to what I eat. I have been known to rush through my day without making nutrition a priority, so I work hard to prepare healthy snacks in advance of my runs and while the kids are at school.
Reminder that you should read an article from http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/ every day.
Yeah reading the easy version will let give you the gist of the article so the hard version will be simpler too esp with rikai
nhk news is easy esp. if you do core so there's no reason not to step outside dat moege bubble and read some news
I have notised that some kanji are pronounsed the same (onyomy) if they include a same element in it. Is there a table or reference on kanji groupped by reading by this rule. Remembering some will helped a lor memorizing some readings in vocabulary?
Is なまえ a loanword? Looks like the word "name" to me.
Reading through that page might help to put it in a little perspective, just keep this one line in mind:
>The phonetic sets in Chinese, though still useful, are two thousand years out of date. It's as if my yingzi phonetics had to rhyme in Proto-Germanic, not in modern English.
Sometimes I feel like I am losing interest in Japanese content. I look at the new shows airing at the beginning of a season and barely any of them seem interesting. But the other day I watched the entire Grimgar season in one day, and yesterday I watched all of Boku dake ga Inai Machi. I absolutely loved both of them. I think I'm just worrying over nothing.
>I look at the new shows airing at the beginning of a season and barely any of them seem interesting
that's not your fault, most of the new anime nowadays literally are just generic garbage churned out of the horses ass. there's always a few good anime as well though, you just gotta have a good eye to find it.
well meme'd but grimgar and erased aren't generic by any means. i'm sure you enjoyed them both but you're only feigning otherwise because other people liked them.
how? i don't like old anime, and i also mentioned in my post that there are some good shows every season as well, it's just that the majority of them are generic garbage. you cant deny that so don't even try.
Not him, I thought Grimgar was pretty ass. I dropped it at ep 4(?) when
a character deathwas really poorly handled. But seeing that the current state of anime is not superb does not mean you have nostalgia goggles on. The stuff of yesteryear was ass as well, '90s-fags only remember the Berserks and Evas and Slayers and forget all the garbage. Anime's golden age was '06-'13 or so; right now the anime scene is polluted with LN schlock. Magical school, faux-harem, chuunishit, dragged-into-an-alternate-world, only-guy-in-a-girls-school-that-just-went-co-ed-or-some-shit, and CGshit are all becoming common genres and with few exceptions the are all trash. There are still a few good shows most seasons, but percentage-wise fewer than in the last few years, IMO.
I disagree. 2015 was a great year with several giants, and this year is looking pretty strong too (especially this season). Oh and 2017 of course has Fate/extra and other stuff.
New anime are great and I say this as someone who has been watching for almost a decade, you probably lost interest in anime over the years.
>So like literally always?
that's pretty much what i was saying in my first post so yeah. this >>139757359 anon was saying he felt like he was losing interest in anime and i simply told him that its not that hes losing interest, its that the majority of the shows are garbage.
if you aren't going to follow the conversation then don't bother replying retard lmao.
actually i just realized you said "almost a decade"
that means you werent even watching anime before 2006 so your opinion is actually bunk as shit among your peers here i think
Here's your (You)
>told him that its not that hes losing interest, its that the majority of the shows are garbage.
But that's wrong you braindead retard. It's the SAME. He IS losing interest.
Not true. Like I think the music scene of today is better than when I was younger. Soundcloud and Bandcamp and stuff have made it much easier for aspiring musicians to get their music out to the public and there is a near-endless supply of good music coming out for whatever genre you're into. I just don't think the same for anime. I concur with >>139758895, "Nostalgia goggles" is a retarded phrase that present-worshippers shit out for no reason. Just because someone has a negative opinion of something in the present does not mean that they are automatically wrong.
That being said I am going to stop replying now because this clearly no longer has anything to do with learning Japanese.
Ya, the last two episodes were a little weak. KonoSuba was good, but I prefer more serious plots over comedy, so I ranked it lower. Shouwa Genroku looks good, I think I will watch it next.
rakugo is dope konosuba is garbage erassed threw out the manga and wasnt good anyway
haruchika was the best the author has a unique voice and it came through in the anime completely
music industry has completely changed in the last 20 years in ways no one would have expected. anime industry has not
its no surprise that you have that opinion but what does that have to do with liking what is now old music and anime because you were younger back then when it wasnt old
break sentence down into individual parts and explain to me how you understand them as they relate to each other
Thanks a lot to the anon(s) who have been adding all these great comments and suggestions to the guide.
I'll get around to going through all of it on the weekend and the coming week, for now, you have my gratitude.
A lot of it.
>that womanly voice
Is that him doing it or is there a chick with him there?
Yeah, Kill Me Baby is my favorite anime/manga of all time (close second is Joshiraku).
I like dark humor and cute things, and kill me baby delivers a wonderful combination of this. You've got these two cute characters, who constantly run into all kinds of situations, which usually end up with someone getting hurt and a fun amount of cynicism. It's like slapstick, but a bit more dark and with cute as fuck characters.
There's a scene in which Yasuna wants to go catch some rare flat snake in the mountains and has a hammer amongst her equipment, Sonya asks what the hammer is for and Yasuna answers "見つけなかったらそれで適当なヘビを" with this hilarious expression and voice.
I'd say it's one of the best examples of what I like about the series.
Not to mention the low-budget-esque atmosphere of the anime which blends in perfectly with the content. And the dancing at the end.
Thank you for answering. It's interesting because I do like dark humor but didn't really get that vibe in a sufficient quantity from what I did read. However, the situation you mention does sound great. I might as well give it a second chance, perhaps starting by the anime this time.
I also watched the anime first, I like the manga just as much, but it does have a different feel to it compared to the anime.
Also, if you like dark humor you should watch
rick and morty no seriously, it's one of my favorite non-anime things I've ever watched
If anyone else aspires to make a LOGH deck, skip the most 50-100 common words holy fuck what a blunder. They're all SO common.
I hope you realise that everytime you post you attach one of a small pool of KMB images in order for identity recognition. This is called avatarfagging.
Thanks for continually treating the thread like a circlejerk.
The old guide is still better than the current one and there no need to recommend anything else.
I hope you realise that everytime you post you write dumb ass shit in order for identity recognition. This is called being a gay bitch.
Thanks for continually treating the thread like a circlejerk, biotch.
>I hope you realise that everytime you post you attach one of a small pool of KMB images in order for identity recognition. This is called avatarfagging
I'm aware of that.
I'm already perfectly identifiable by the content of my posts discussing the guide, I might just as well attach a cute image to it.
It's also not that tiny of a pool (about 500 images total), it's just that most of them don't seem that fitting since they're either more action-packed scenes, or aren't as well drawn or cute as others.
In regards to your comment regarding the new vs. old guide, I beg to differ.
Fuck off avatarfag.
Stop treating 4chan like a fucking forum.
I really don't think that there's any need to be this angry.
Feel free to send me an email if you actually want to discuss something rather than throwing insults at me.
While you're at it, see the attached screenshot. You're free to make your own guide.
Every time you respond to the aus/brit flamer responding to you he's going to feel fulfilled
Let the rest of people shit all over his first response so you don't have to say anything
>watching anime, one episode after the other, for 5 hours straight now
>still haven`t done my reps
I-I`ll be fine, right?
All you did was make negative changes to a guide someone else did in order to try and take credit for something you didn't do.
It's called legitimate criticism.
The fact that the generalfags sperged out like bees defending a hive illustrates the problem more than anything else could.
How about you stop trying to enforce a hivemind?
This is how you are acting right now, anon.
>he was trying to improve the guide
He was trying to imprint his ego on it, hence the unnecessary changes. When it was brought up a little while ago, anons posted their criticisms and he completely fucking flipped out trying to defend the changes. The rest of the people defending it don't care, they just want to defend their general, like bees.
I'm not at all. You don't have to be "butthurt" to raise criticism. Sounds like you are projecting here.
Just an impartial observer here, but all I see is people arguing over whether or not it's ok to be an avatarfag.
Not any of that other stuff that it looks like you're trying to build a strawman out of.
Being an avatarfag is almost never ok.
>he completely fucking flipped out trying to defend the changes.
The only thing I remember like that is refusing to recommend Wanikani which is a decision I support because Wanikani is cancerous garbage designed to suck out people's money, not teach effectively.
its true i havent seen a good question all week im pretty sure no one here even cares about japanese
its prolly better to ask any real questions on reddit or lang8 or even the int thread anyway
The site itself is garbage, regardless of the people who use it. That's why we don't like it and why we make fun of people who use it, because anyone who can stand to use such a dumb site can only be a piece of shit.
I thought people on 4chan were more knowledgeable of the controversy so I didn't think I had to say it.
What I meant by "garbage" was obviously referring to the fact that the concept of internet voting and popularity based discussion ordering is fucking retarded.
That's the problem with it. That's the basis for the hate of reddit on 4chan.
I don't mind it too much because smaller subs only get like 10-20 comments per post and I read all of them regardless of votes.
>That's the basis for the hate of reddit on 4chan.
Nah. Those on 4chan tend to hate other websites because 4chan is le internet hate machine.
it's only retarded if you use it for politics or something, if you're on a small subreddit votes don't really matter and pretty much any new thread is visible
hence the "avoid big subreddits", reading comprehension
Your post just tells me you understood absolutely nothing I've said.
My whole point was to say that people who think hating reddit is based on the "post quality" or the people using it is wrong.
It's a part of it, but not the main underlying cause of it.
That may be why YOU hate Reddit, but there's more to it.
I don't know about other boards, cause I know for damn sure that the majority of people on the bigger ones are ex-Redditors and throw the word around like /a/ does for /v/, but one of the main reasons /a/ and Reddit don't get along is because of their views on piracy, ロリ, and 3D.
I don't disagree, but in small subreddits the amount of voting tends to be small and most comments end up being presented equally anyway. And in many threads comments are sorted by newness rather than vote amount. I also rather dislike reddit as a whole but when it comes to certain smaller topics there isn't anywhere else to go to discuss them.
I use /r/ssbm for discussion of SSBM and occasionally /r/games for game news. /v/ has, incredibly, actually become worse than reddit over the past few years so I don't have many options. Reddit is not without its uses, but all of its anime-related subs are really terrible and /a/ is better in nearly every way. I hear /r/visualnovels is okay too but I don't visit there so I don't know.
/r/visualnovels only problem is that in the untranslated discussion threads, the vast majority of posters are people learning Japanese and thus their posts ALWAYS talk about language difficulty, how excited they are to be reading in Japanese, etc etc. It's unbelievably obnoxious.
just so you know theres almost nowhere you can go to have eroge discussion in english that doesnt have that shit
in fact all the people trying to learn japanese to that end are running after the carrot dangling in front of them holding the memes created by those involved in localization to their chest
you should just abandon english entirely to escape
I judge individual communities based on their actual merits. I have indeed visited /r/learnjapanese before and if it were any good then I would be a regular. Sadly it is not though. It's filled to the brim with people who have been studying for six months and don't know the hiragana, wanikani kool-aid drinkers, and idiots who proselytize retarded study methods while demonizing legitimate ones just because they differ from their own choices.
Hm, the last one there sounded a bit like us, didn't it? Even so, here is a lot better than there.
>demonizing legitimate ones just because they differ from their own choices.
>Hm, the last one there sounded a bit like us, didn't it?
Not in the slightest. What legitimate method do we demonize?
For the most part DJT's methods are absolutely sound: compelling content and overwhelming context. But the one area I feel we falter in is recommending paths for individual kanji study. Among DJTers, RTK is shunned in favor of Kanjidamage, in my opinion an inferior program, even though RTK has helped countless people immensely in learning the kanji. This is because of the retarded concept of pitting RTK vs. vocab in some war, as in >>139769451 and in pic related. In reality this is absurd because everyone has to learn vocab regardless, there is just the option of doing individual kanji study to help you grasp the concept of a character-based writing system.
No comment on Kodansha as opposed to KD or RTK since it is not freely available and I haven't checked it out.
>But the one area I feel we falter in is recommending paths for individual kanji study
This general has always been about the best and FASTEST ways to learn Japanese. Learning Kanji individually is not within that window.
Regardless there is still a section that talks about it in the guide, and I have seen people support RTK here, the only opinions against it I see are 1. Just learn vocab m8 and 2. Too many mnemonics is a bad time.
That was my first one. I hope you learn something from this experience.
The war has been going for far longer than you can imagine, young one.
> This is because of the retarded concept of pitting RTK vs. vocab in some war, as in >>139769451
The point of that image is kind of that both sides of the war are under the power of dekinai
The end of 2014 was the only time frame that I remember having full threads of nothing but RTK vs Vocabulary, consistently, for days. There are still arguments now but they peter out when the single thread dies, or even before so.
The advice in this thread and in the guide is complete bullshit. Do it the Fuwa way.
Back when OP posted daily kanji. When KD was the standard recommended path for beginners. When learning through vocab wasn't common enough for most people to even understand how it worked. Those were the true dark ages. Any skirmishes since are nothing in comparison.
Now that people are at least aware that you still do learn kanji when you study vocab the stakes aren't nearly as high.
i dont know why anyone would recognize any of the x vs y shit as being anything more than dumb ass shit in the first place
if you cant actually think for yourself and handle your own shit you deserve to be led back and forth by this dumb shit honestly
youre assuming a bit much dude no one said anything about how many youve posted so far relax you look stupid
We must keep that argument going. RTK is frowned upon because the average DJT user is expected to have the mental capacity to learn kanji through vocab alone. Mnemonics are for unintelligent people with poor retention.
Straight negative is more common when you are asking a question that isn't a request for a favor. Something like 食べないか? as "Will you eat"? But if you're asking as a favor it lacks the politeness factor
Thanks for being specific in pointing out my mistakes! I was sort of lazy about it on purpose so I could get all the help I wanted. And I dont really have an excuse for being so bad at Japanese other than the fact that it was one of those easy-A high school courses.
its not really like that its more a difference of state between being able to receive vs having received
theres nothing inherently more or less polite about either of them lined up versus each other
I remember my teacher gave out a sheet with a big list of the politeness of each one. If I remember right, negatives are more polite than positives,
This is off the top of my head though.
If you're ignorant enough to think that もらいませんか is the same politeness as もらえないでしょうか while at the same time being overconfident enough to argue about it then I don't think there's any way to convince you of anything.
>think about the people who want to learn for a change instead of your own ego
I'm not the one "correcting" more advanced learners.
2 times the flames 0 times the useful information bravo
once again youre the one disputing me i dont need to explain more you need to explain why its wrong thats how it works nii chan
im feeling dejavu
i went back up the reply chain and then noticed where the communication breakdown was
>>139770544 where he had もらいませんか versus もらえませんか
i saw now you thought i was concerned with もらえないでしょうか which i wasnt and i guess wasnt accurately reflected in >>139770911
sorry for being a dick before making sure we understood each other
that said time to go back to being a dick go
Tbh I think the communication breakdown is because they don't even mean the same thing
Partially my bad for not explaining my correction in the first post (It's easier/faster to recognize what is wrong and how to fix it than to know why it's actually wrong)
Oh I feel silly now. Thank you! I always did get the rules for もらう and くれる mixed up together. I guess I was convinced that I had to be right because no one else in the thread seemed to have noticed such a huge mistake like that.
This explanation doesn't even make sense. Based on what he's saying, the phrase 勉強しなければならない would literally mean "If you refuse to not study, it won't become." So if you study, it won't become. So you shouldn't study. But it means the opposite. That poster is an idiot.
I went and submitted レディット to Edict. If all goes well it should start appearing on Rikai eventually.
I wish the voice button was more common. I replayed the audio so much in Hanahira but rarely in Flyable Heart because going into the backlog screws up the text hooker. It was more of a problem when I used Translation Aggregator. It isn't that bad using the Furigana Inserter + Firefox method.
Fuck off, jamal. Your bullying is not welcome here. Everyone who reads Hanahira is going to be a beginner so it's natural for him or for anyone to replay the audio a lot to get a feel for the sentences.
Thanks, man. It was hard but I needed the listening practice. Sometimes I had to listen several times to try to figure out the correct reading of a word. I really hate words with multiple possible readings.
It doesn't even have to be a button. A keyboard shortcut would be perfectly fine.
This game is already hilarious. Thank you to the anons who played and recommended it, the autoscroll html anon, and every non-troll on DJT for getting me this far. I'll come back and ask for help if I come across a line I truly cannot make any sense of, but I'll try to rely on context and the DOJG as much as I can. See you guys later, I'm off to read.
1) It's accurate information, レディット is how it's actually called in Japanese (if not plain Reddit). No harm adding accurate information to a dictionary like Edict which includes terminology such as the name of any Chinese historical figure ever born.
2) Non-malicious. No one will ever be misled or hurt by it's inclusion, except that one autist (who I think is joking anyway)
>tried to play the K-ON game for the PSP as practice
>completely and utterly blown out and have to stop after a few lines
>fast forward 6 months
>learned many kanjis and a good bit of grammar
>complete failure again
I'm forever できない, aren't I.
You can use this to judge your progress. As long as you don't quit, you will succeed.
I just mean that just because the text is spaced closely doesn't mean it's beyond or level or something. If those sentences were shown to you one by one many of the people put off by it could probably read it fine, they just need to learn to focus on one sentence at a time.
heres the shocking truth
the reason why its super off putting is because not only is it a wall of text its all fucken boring drivel
its literally just a boring wall of text
see for the shocking truth of when you can see the nihongo for what it is
>know too much to not enjoy subbed shit anymore because I hear words that arn't in the subs and feel I'm being lied to
>know too little to enjoy media without subs
what is this fresh hell I have crawled into
This is the worst thing about reddit right here. Self important beginners dishing out shit tier advice.
Its ok coz he'll change his mind
In any case at least hes a motivated self learner instead of reddit shitters
Only a problem if you're an ADHD NEET who has to post about learning japanese 24/7
>>know too little to enjoy media without subs
look no matter what you say you dont understand the intent behind the word and just the dictionary definition of the word itself
no one said youre an idiot though so thats on you
oh my god dude no get away from me please
Specifically, Suzuno's route.
I know you read it with a guide and thus were spoiled immediately, but for most people, the fact she gets a route isn't evident, or even that there exists a true route after the normal routes, since most moege don't have this. By posting it here, and even worse, adding End and Das Zukunft hat schon begonnen to it, you're ruining the bonus route for people.
But even excluding that, imagine someone reading Mayuri's route. They'd normally be expecting a continuation of the route after the sex scene, but because of your chart they know it's about to end. It takes away the potential of a surprise extension or after story to the route, which is a significant part of some VNs, and something only they can do, since books you always know many pages are left. You might not have read a VN like this and therefore not realise it, but I consider spoiling the fact this doesn't occur to also be a spoiler.
dont be sad i just cant help you with your japanese posting career
its against my morals and values すまん ＊柏手＊
i gave school days to a female friend back in the day and said nothing and she watched it all and then stopped being friends with me
Alright let me phrase it another way then. You know my ISP block reddit (along with many other websites right). So since you said that reddit's thread (weekly question thread) is good for asking questions, let me ask you this.
What good VPN service you're using that you think I should check out?
Now since It's not directly related to japanese posting career anymore, you can help a brother out right?
>Start learning Japanese three years ago
>I gain an appreciation for *good* localizations
>Appreciate the well done video game localizations I play
>I still appreciate them and since I translate myself now, I'm always looking for ways to improve and sound more natural. Try to maintain as much accuracy as I can but I'll change things as needed in order to not sound odd in English
>Once I even changed a name in something because how the name was formed didn't make sense in English. I expected to be met with nerd rage, but everyone who commented on it said it was a good choice and they understood why I did it.
And yet I have a hard time playing Japanese games in English anymore. Some have shit English versions, like pretty much anything that NoA releases these days, but some are pretty good. Sometimes I just want to chill and play a game in a language I'm fluent in, because though I can play anything I've tried to in Japanese, depending on what game it is it can be a breeze (Dragon Quest), or challenging (Fatal Frame III). Other times it's not hard at all, just time consuming when the game uses a lot of kanji and I need to look them up often, though OCR apps on phones helps that. Still slows me down though. It seems the more Japanese something is, like Fatal Frame or Persona, the less I want to play an English version even if I try to convince myself to do it.
Anyone else here suffer from this brand of autism?
Definitely. Not games necessarily but manga/novels, if they were originally in Japanese I can't bring myself to read the English version. It ends up feeling like you're not even really reading the material.
On a similar note, the book I'm reading keeps quoting from Shakespeare (in Japanese), and it's almost laughable because the Japanese version of the lines are so straightforward, it's like they're not really reading Shakespeare at all.
Yeah, it also kind of feels like I'm gimping myself on a learning experience. That was true a few years ago, and I still have a ways to go before I'm even near fluency, but at this point I can afford to play a Japanese game or two in English. Guess I just hate letting learning opportunities slip by.
>On a similar note, the book I'm reading keeps quoting from Shakespeare (in Japanese), and it's almost laughable because the Japanese version of the lines are so straightforward, it's like they're not really reading Shakespeare at all.
Oh yeah, I've seen stuff like that before. Can't recall them off the top of my head, but yeah, sometimes you see stuff like that overly simplified when translated into Japanese, or you see simple and direct statements in Japanese media played up a bit in an English translation.
look let me put it like this
getting to tokyo, its a mindset. sure its a physical location on the planet but to really find tokyo is to find yourself. have you ever watched or read boys on the run? at the end
he puts that bitch on an express train to tokyo so she can get her mind right. the point is at some point everybody needs to find a way to this metaphorical tokyo, for their own sake and well being, but you cant just ask to go there and be taken there, you must get there by way of your own actions and decisions in life
when the time is right you too will find your way to tokyo
i mean localizing jp only cultural stuff is garbage i agree plus i think if it was written in jp originally thats what you should go with most of the time unless you have a real good reason
its a two way street dude actually more than that. for every ugly jp > en tl you see theres like 100 more bad en > jp tls that will make you question why western stuff is even popular amongst some japanese
it really isnt a stretch to say its almost as ugly as the people chasing their visual dreams here in djt
Jesus, everyone who said Hanahira was baby Japanese wasn't kidding. I have spent like 15 minutes on this line alone. The amount of new grammar is crazy dense compared to Hanahira's "かわいい" and "ひゃあああ" and "仲良しだね、佳織ちゃん" every other line.
Brilliant, thanks. I should have thought of that myself. When doing my daily new words I supplement any words with new kanji in them by finding some more words on Jisho with that specific kanji and onyomi in them to reinforce it. But if I mine too many words to do in one day then I can't do this since the supplemental mined words will show up after all of the others. So this helps, thanks again.
Hanahira was my first and only VN, I only went through it for practice. I remember it being difficult at times, but that was a couple years ago. I haven't uninstalled it yet because I keep wanting to go back and see how easy it is now, but at the same time, it being a learning experience was the only thing keeping me from giving it up out of boredom.
Dunno why I said grammar. The grammar is more difficult now but still understandable, I meant vocab.
Absolutely, thank you for the reinforcement. I am not despairing, though, more just marvelling at the difference in difficulty between two purportedly easy VNs. New words and kanji are exciting, I am looking forward to continuing with this one.
If you have been studying for a few years now then you won't have a problem with it. I am a total beginner and it was baby simple. At first it was not so easy; I stressed over understanding 100% of the lines and how the grammar worked inside of them but once I realized that was a waste of time and focused on understanding the general meaning the rest of the VN was smooth sailing.
Hanahira is pretty generic though. I highly recommend it to any newbies as a confidence booster and intro to VNs but if you are already past that level there's not much point.
>I stressed over understanding 100% of the lines and how the grammar worked inside of them
Yeah I did the same thing. I'm back to doing that, but that's mostly because I don't have to struggle over every sentence anymore, so I get more obsessive over the little things that I'm not sure about.
Read the first three chapters of Dragonball last night, only having to ask gf to explain small things like what the hell the turtle's antiquated language meant, or why Goku うses 食わす instead of 食べる. I'm barely self-assessed N3 and only 1/3rd done with core 6k, so it felt good to finally jump into Compelling Content™ that wasn't JAV.
>And you don't even see it
Because it isn't there and you are knee-jerk reacting like a teenager who has just heard someone say they didn't really enjoy the last album produced by your favorite band. Just look at this thread. Look at it. A group of tribalistic morons throwing shit at each other.
>two purportedly easy VNs
Yeah it's important to remember while Flyable Heart is easy it's still in a completely different tier from stuff which is literally just little kids like Yotsuba and Hanahira.
>What I meant by "garbage" was obviously referring to the fact that the concept of internet voting and popularity based discussion ordering is fucking retarded.
That's how 4chan works: popular threads are bumped while others are ignored or saged to death. Popular opinions are parroted while unpopular opinions are shitposted to death. The same things are discussed over and over to death because they are popular and doing anything unpopular will be met by hoards of shitposting until it is finally accepted and becomes the new thing that is allowed to be discussed.
Out of all of the shit things with reddit, you picked the ones which resemble 4chan. The first problem that should have been mentioned was a lack of intra-poster anonymity. You didn't even mention that at all. Not even a mention of having to create an account in order to post? Or the fact that the site is designed around link aggregation and not discussion? What the fuck, man - how could you leave those out?
>were you not here in 2014?
If I were I sure as fuck wouldn't be here now.
Are you coming to these threads for Japanese or coming to these thread to learn more about these threads? That's like loitering around junior schools after graduating highschool, and unless you're there for the potential sex, it's just fucking weird.
Do you use this thread as a social chatroom or something?
Don`t give up yet.
What the fuck are you doing anon?
Holy crap you guys shit on it but kanji damage is wizardry
I've jammed like 200 kanji into my brain in 3 days
you are dekenai incarnate man
>needing an hour less than a week in
>less than 50% retention rate
like 50 cards take you an hour and you can't even remember half of them. Good luck when you have that kind of retention rate juggling 2000 cards. Enjoy 10 hour study sessions.
Go join the army or something, can't stand low IQ proles coming in thinking everyone can handle a second language.
>but having two different set of kanji mean the same thing is mind boggling to me
Pay attention to the radicals on the kanji on the left.
>get frustrated by how everything I read has so many new words that I couldn't possibly remember them all
>try making a mining deck
>2 months later
>get frustrated by how everything I read has so few new words that it takes ages to fill my daily quota
I'm not sure how much is progress and how much is the change in perspective from viewing new words as an opportunity to learn rather than an obstacle to fluency, but making that mining deck is probably the best thing I've done since I started studying Japanese.
VN means visual novel, and you'd read a novel, not play one. But VN is usually just a pretentious term for eroge, which is an abbreviation of ero game, thus something you play.
If you want to say you've played it, say eroge. Only use VN if you want to be a dickhead pretending to be reading literature when playing your porn games.
Alright so i started practicing just yesterday and i've read the guide and im actually doing this part right here http://realkana.com/hiragana/
But is there a certain font from those that i should stick with? the characters sometimes look completely different depending on the font
people keep saying this to me, is this a meme?
Alright thanks, but fuck me the font i was using was the first one and its the only one from the rest that some characters look different compared to the other fonts
But in general, would you say you play them, or read them?
But if you played an eroge, and wanted to then call it a VN, would you say you read it even though you played it?
Are anons like this just taking the piss? I mean, surely the op site can't get any more retard friendly than it already is? Where on earth are these people coming from?
>But in general, would you say you play them, or read them?
there is no dichotomy here
unless you're like reading umineko where there are no choices until the second half which is a separate installment
>But if you played an eroge, and wanted to then call it a VN, would you say you read it even though you played it?
It's more the other way around, if I wanted to say I read it, I'd call it a VN.
do something, decide if it works for you, if it doesn't, stop *early* and move on to something else
just don't bounce from method to method forever or you won't learn japanese
get those vocabulary flashcards in no matter what you're doing
Later on or now (depending on your level of Japanese), get into the habit of using this search pattern in google, whatever:
「ｘ」と「ｙ」の違い (replace with your terms, obviously)
For example your kanji issue:
This should be in the Guide somewhere, unless I am remembering from a different source.
Are you going to be alive in 5 weeks time? Spend two weeks on each and see for yourself which clicks better.
It would be idea if you made your own mnemonics up but I think the Anki deck in the CoR for RtK has all the mnemonics on the cards.
Definitely use the book alongside the deck, though. There should be a copy of the book in the CoR.
RTK stops providing mnemonics about halfway through the first book. After that, it only lists the primitives and expects you to come up with your own. RTK also covers nearly twice as much (3k kanji) as KD. Personally, I prefer the RTK community mnemonic deck.
>lay down in bed
>realise I forgot to do my reps today
A-am I gunna be daijoubu?
You need the book, or a PDF of the book. Some primitives/components/whatever he calls them have an entry in the book but not the deck, because they aren't kanji by themselves. Some of them can have multiple meanings. Like a kanji will mean one thing, but the mnemonic used when it is part of another kanji will be something else. I hope that made sense. When doing my new cards I would have the PDF open on the left half of the screen and Anki on the right.
>>realise I forgot to do my reps today
>not planning your day around your reps
Today I almost fucked up because I get tired really early and went to bed before doing my reps. But I still put my alarm clock on 2 hours before the reset and dragged myself out of bed to do my reps because there's no way I'll let myself fall down to 99% days studied.
What kanji is this? Google trans isnt picking up my shit drawing
>add people on hellotalk
>english level is set to 1 and they clearly can barely speak
>send message in nipponese
>they respond in shitty engrish
Why? I don't get why they try to talk when they're so bad. It's really annoying and I always insta drop them because they clearly aren't competent enough to get a basic understanding before trying to communicate with people.
What also pisses me off is when they want you to send messages in Japanese and they send messages in English, in an attempt to have a conversation with both at the same time. Not only is it cringey as fuck, but it makes it much more difficult to actually have a conversation. And what kind of person would want to keep switching languages? It kills your immersion too having to continually switch.
Fuck some people on hellotalk
Okay, I'll stop messing with you.
It's like working out. Missing one day is barely noticeable in the grand scheme of things. But as soon as you let yourself slip and consider it acceptable to miss a single day, chances are you'll miss a lot more than one day and it suddenly becomes really fucking easy to make excuses until you're putting in so little effort that you're not even making progress anymore.
So if you miss a day, all you can do is push on like nothing happened, but never let yourself think that missing a day isn't a big deal.
>I don't get why they try to talk when they're so bad. It's really annoying and I always insta drop them because they clearly aren't competent enough to get a basic understanding before trying to communicate with people.
Is the joke here that Japanese people probably feel the same way about you when you try to communicate in Japanese?
> when they want you to send messages in Japanese and they send messages in English, in an attempt to have a conversation with both at the same time
The fuck? That's completely normal and polite when you're both trying to learn the other's language. I much prefer it to trading off, as long as you actually get corrections.
Personally I stopped bothering with Hellotalk when after several conversations the only corrections I got were trivial typos
just doo flash cards when you feel like it and dont worry too much about it as long as youre doing the other important things (gym tan laundry etc)
honestly because english by my reckoning is worth 100 times more than japanese i would advise you to employ a 100:1 exchange rate on japanese to english sentences
>What are you doing?
Yeah, no thanks. I'd rather just stick with one for a while and switch whenever. That's just weird to me and annoys me. Idk it might be irrational but I don't like it
Do you have what it takes to be slower than me?
I haven't done all my decks yet for today so that's why it's low