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Are the movies worth watching?

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Are the movies worth watching?
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>>139672191
Memories of Nobody, yes. Everything else, not really, no.
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>>139672191
Memories of Nobody is okay. Nothing amazing, pretty basic and standard story, but if nothing else, it has no real glaring flaws.

DiamondDust Rebellion is shit. Stupid story and centered around Hitsugaya simply because he happened to be at the height of his popularity at the time.

Fade to Black is shit. The story is somehow even worse than DiamondDust and it has the most irritating antagonists.

Hell Verse is pretty much just Wasted Potential: The Movie.
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>>139672191
Of course not.
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You know, I can forgive the shit story and characters. It's a Shonen Jump movie, pretty much all of those are mediocre to terrible. So I can forgive that the writing an direction are shit.

But for fuck's sake, this is a theatrical film. Even if Studio Pierrot is one of the worst animation studios in Japan, it's still unforgivable for a movie that played in theaters to look this bad.
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>>139675359
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God, this movie had some sort of weird-ass fixation on eyelashes.
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Okay, I just finished watching (skimming through) the four movies. I already watched them before, but I forgot some things.

Memories of Nobody and Hell Verse are mediocre as hell. Diamond Dust Rebellion and Fade to Black are just shit.

Great music, though.
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>>139678644
>just shit
>great music though

that goes for the anime not just the movies
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The first one is decent. The fourth one has excellent animation and based soundtrack by Shiro Sagisu.

The other two are forgettable trash and were made to pander to Hitsugaya fags and Rukia fags respectively (and failed at it).
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>>139672191
Movies are basically bankai porn, so if you like that, watch them.
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Memories of Nobody had this little cutie in it, and that was enough for me.
2 and 3 were pretty forgetable
4 was pretty fun, but not as good as it could have been. Playing as Kokuto in Soul Ressurecion was pretty great, though
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>>139679409
fucking forgot my image.
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>>139679443
Bleach fillers and movies are pretty hit-or-miss, but I liked Senna and Nozomi.
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Will we ever get a bleach game from CC2? I would happily give my shekels for it
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>>139679760
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1st movie is canon.
2nd is for hitsugaya fanboys.
3rd is for ichi x ruki
4th is a nice generic action flick, but they dumped Kubo's ideas into the toilet.
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Memories of Nobody wasn't just a good shonenshit movie, it was just a good movie. I'd recommend it. If your a fan you may as well watch the rest but there's a severe quality dip.
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>>139673533
>Memories of Nobody,
That movie gave me feels.
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4th movie has the best soundtrack
>Beg for mercy, scum of Satan
>Lucifer's a corpse in waiting
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>>139680897
1st movie contradicts canon. Souls don't lose memories when they go to Soul Society.
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>>139682784
Most of them do. It's why most souls don't really remember their past lives.
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>>139682947
Examples?
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>>139682784
The concept of the Valley of Screams was drawn up by Kubo himself. The fact that the Valley of Screams exists in the manga in the first place does prove that Blanks do exist. Since there's little explanation of what the Valley of Screams is in the manga, Kubo probably expects the reader to have already seen Memories of Nobody and derive their understanding from that.

That being said, Memories of Nobody literally cannot happen in the manga's established timeline. It's clearly supposed to take place in-between the Soul Society arc and the Vizard arc, but the fact that Rukia's present makes that impossible. Ichigo never sees Rukia in-between those two arcs. The first time he sees her after the botched execution was at the start of the Vizard arc, when she, Ikkaku, Yumichika, Hitsugaya and Matsumoto infiltrate Ichigo's school.

Most likely, we're supposed to assume that an event similar to that of Memories of Nobody took place at some point, just not exactly like how that movie showed it. Given the strict timeline of the arcs, the only time an event like Memories of Nobody could have occurred is in-between the Soul Society and Vizard arcs, so most likely, Rukia just wasn't around in the manga's version of that event.
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>>139681012
>good movie
You have low standards. It was outright mediocre if you take out any bias for Bleach, which is the only reason anyone would watch the Bleach movies in the first place.
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>>139683145
Same goes for all of the Bleach movies and filler, their space in time is completely impossible, aside from the Bount arc which was unforunately one of the if not THE worst filler material.
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>>139683384
The difference between Memories of Nobody and the other things is that the manga actually references it. Kubo has never referenced any other movie or filler arc before, except for maybe the Muramasa filler arc with Shunsui's Zanpakuto spirits, but that's primarily because he's the one who designed every single Zanpakuto spirit in the first place.
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>>139679443
>Forgot my image
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>>139683145
Kubo already stated that MoN is canon, and that he hasn't had time to write it in.
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>>139684325
Wait, he did? When?
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>hell wasted on a shit movie

unforgivable
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>>139672191
Hell Verse had the best animation in the franchise, that's the only worthwhile thing really.
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>>139684538
Kubo had big plans for it, but due to miscommunication, none of his ideas got through.
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>>139684565
Why the fuck was Kokuto so strong? Who (or what) was he in life?
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>>139679760
>from CC2
Give me my .hack// remakes first and I'll think about it.
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>>139685273
Everyone in Hell was strong. Presumably, it was so they could endure greater levels of torture.
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>>139685273
All Sinners got powerboosted to Hell and back so they'd despair harder when the Kushanada's beat them up.
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Movies of Shonen = Filler Short
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP9PjAskINU
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nothing about bleach is worth watching
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PHz1sq_hBc
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>>139672191
Watch Fade to Black and Memories of Nobody.
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>>139686036
Fade to Black is terrible, though.
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>>139686140
I liked it. The final fight was great, and we got Dark Rukia. I thought the whole plot with Soul Society forgetting all about Ichigo and Rukia was pretty cool.
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>>139685680
He did it guys! He posted it! Look at him, the total madman!

/a/ is saved!
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>>139686187
The plot was terrible, the two antagonists were painfully annoying their attempts at creating a "deep" and "emotional" atmosphere just turned out to be incredibly shallow.
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>>139686261
I don't disagree that they were shallow, but I enjoyed the movie regardless. The only Bleach movie I can't watch is Diamond Dust Rebellion, I haven't even finished it once.
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>>139686297
I finished it.

It was stupid. Why is it taboo for there to be two identical Zanpakuto? Fuck you, that's why! Why were these two Arrancar chicks following a goddamn Shinigami? Fuck you, that's why! Why was Ichigo able to see what's-his-face's past just by clashing swords? FFFFFFFFUCK YOU, that's why! And most importantly, why the fuck was there a movie centered around goddamn Hitsugaya of all characters?

F U C K Y O U
U C K Y O U F
C K Y O U F U
K Y O U F U C
Y O U F U C K
O U F U C K Y
U F U C K Y O

THAT'S WHY.
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>all these shit taste scrubs who couldn't appreciate MoN or FtB

>>139683145
You're forgetting that everyone forgot the events of MoN except Ichigo, so it makes perfect sense in a retcon way.
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>>139686140
Rukia's imouto had mighty fine legs though.
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>>139686777
But that's kind of why it's so problematic.

When Ichigo sees Rukia again at the beginning of the Vizard arc, he reacts in shock because it's the first time he'd seen her since Soul Society.

What the hell is Rukia doing hanging around in the Living World before then?
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>>139672191
Watch MoN skip the rest.
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>>139686849
>because it's the first time he'd seen her since Soul Society
In the end this is speculation that could be easily retconned. We can't really know what Ichigo felt at that point, and Kubo could always override it with another reason for that shocked look.
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>>139686969
Ichigo's also surprised that Rukia has her Shinigami powers back, which means that it's the first time he'd seen her in that form since chapter 1.
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>>139687012
Well uh

kubo will find a way
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>>139687184
Also, the villains were very boring for Kubo. Kubo's storytelling has a shitload of flaws, but his antagonists are usually a little more entertaining than that lot.
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>>139687220
With limited time, they chose to build up Senna rather than the antagonists.

It was a good decision. I liked the villains anyway, except for the cliche engrish name and not enough background information
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>>139687012
Or he could have just pretended. I think he knew that nobody else could remember it and that he wasn't supposed to know it.
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>>139672191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrUxjlZIm5A
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>>139687287
Rukia was present in the human world and assisting Ichigo as a Shinigami even before Senna came into the picture.

Honestly, most of the plot holes presented by Memories of Nobody could be immediately resolved simply by removing Rukia from the story.
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>>139687302
>2:28
whether you like or hate Bleach or the movie, this is a great scene
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>>139687322
That movie came out after Kubo made the chapter where Ichigo and Rukia meet again. So it's the movie writers fault. But I think what happened is that Kubo liked the film so much that he made it canon and overlooked the slight continuity error. I mean there are worse errors. If we wanted to be strict, Rukia should have killed Fishbone D with her Shikai and Yamamoto shouldn't have been the first commander.
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>>139687443
Rukia tends to make poor battle decisions and can be rash. Ichigo was being reckless and she chose to prioritize his life. There could have been better ways to deal with it, but she ended up using her body as a shield.
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>>139687485
Rukia was so far above a hollow like Fishbone D at that point it isn't even funny. It's safe to assume Kubo just didn't have everything fleshed out yet. He probably didn't even have the idea of a Shikai thought up yet.
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>>139687565
She should have beaten Riruka too, but she didn't due to poor judgment. Rukia kept underestimating her and messed up, so she ended up losing pathetically.
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>>139687565
>>139687443
You're forgetting that she was already under the influence of the Hougyoku and wanted to die because of Kaien, or at least lose her powers.

It's possible that the Hougyoku was already inside her, since she had been to the real world previously but didn't remember it at all.

>>139687600
She held back because Riruka was human.
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>>139687565
Whats your point? blame Ichigo for constantly distracting Rukia allowing her to get caught off guard
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>>139672191
Yes movie 1 and 3 are worth watching. You can watch 2 if you don't hate seeing hitsugaya being the center of the movie.
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>>139687778
I'm saying Rukia could have flash stepped and killed that hollow before Ichigo could even register that she moved at all.
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>>139687443
If I recall right, Ichigo's ludicrously high spiritual power fucked with Rukia's senses which ended up affecting her performance.
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>>139687869
Doesnt matter how fast or strong you are

Turning your back against your opponent is a good way to get stomped
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>>139687869
By the time she realized what he was doing, Ichigo was already about to get killed by the Hollow.

The only real stupid part was that instead of cutting its head off and killing it, she chose to use her body as a shield.
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>>139687869
>>139687889
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>>139687889
She didn't though, she jumped into Fishbone D's attack instead of just killing it.
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>>139672191
I only enjoyed Memories of Nobody.
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>>139687920
>She was too focused on talking to Ichigo instead of focusing on the fucking battle

Jesus Christ, Rukia. It's stupid mistakes like this that always costs you these fights. If you think about it, the majority of Rukia's losses were entirely due to poor judgment on her part.

>Arroniero
>Kept getting duped and let her emotions get the best of her

>Riruka
>Didn't want to hurt Riruka because she was human. Never occurred to her to just knock her out or immobilize her with Kido.

>Wandenreich invasion
>Turned her back in the middle of a fight
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>>139688029
Kubo enjoys to see her suffer, alright?

Isn't that what he said?
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>>139688029
Rukia has talent, but her tactical decision-making ability in battle is shit.

Mind you, this seems to be a trait that most Lieutenants share.
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>>139687876
Which is retarded because Shinigami hang out near their captains all the time.
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>>139688065
That's what he said about Hisagi, Kon and I think Bambietta. That he loves bullying them.
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>>139688389
>Bambietta
It was Hitsugaya
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>>139684240
I'll give you that one Carlos.
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>>139688502
I think there was a comment or so from him in the new year special. Either way, both get bullied alot.
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>>139688310
All the captains control there reiatsu
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>>139688389
Didn't he say that he liked Rukia's sad face or something?

Although I can relate. Makes me just want to hug her tighter than usual
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>>139689898
Out of all the characters I don't think he'd make a comment about Rukia like that. He practically referred to her as his daughter on twitter.
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>>139690199
[CITATION NEEDING INTENSIFIES]
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>>139690199
He didn't. He only reffered as her the protagonist of the Shinigami side. Ichigo is the protagonist of the human and Uryuu of the Quincy side.
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>>139690231
We will never know of its true or not. He deleted his tweets.

His alleged tweet was "Same here. Thank you for loving my daughter."
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>>139686569
>Why were two Arrancar chicks following a shinigami

It was literally discount Aizen. He had to have been really fucking strong to even do that since all Arrancar bow to power and this won't be waved unless wronged.

But I agree, Diamond Dust is shit.

But that After Dark tho.
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>>139689145
Despite what Isshin said about controlling reiatsu, you never see any of the captains' swords grow to skyscraper size when they go all out. I'm calling bullshit on Isshin's statement.
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>>139691253
Its more like if they just let their reatsu out willy nilly they'd be the size of sky scrapers. Of course focusing the blade into manageable sizes is probably far more practical and effecient.
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>>139691253
Ichigo and Grand Fisher had massive-ass zanpakuto because when those swords were formed they didn't have proper control of their reiatsu. So as Renji once described it the weapons were oversized and "soft" hunks of junk, and remained oversized hunks of junk regardless of how high or low their wielders' reiatsu swung.
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>>139686036
Myuri's brain machine may become canon because Nemu is now a brain.
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>>139693018
Plot twist: He mixed it up with Gremmy's brain.
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>>139672191
No.

Listen to the Hell Verse OST though, it's elder god tier.
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>>139672191


SPOILERS
http://onepiece-naruto.com/blog-entry-1153.html?sp
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Is Orihime a fullbringer like Chad?
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>>139695074
Probably not, since Ginjou had no interest in recruiting her, even though he knew how handy her abilities were. She may be a human/whatever hybrid, since her mother was described as a faithless whore and her supposed biological father tried to kill her. So the liklihood that she's the daughter of someone else is not that small. Said person could be a Shinigami or a Quincy.

The other possibility is that Orihime is a Sternritter, but not one Yhwach created. Both Ichigo and the Hogyoku are heavily implied to have the same powers as Yhwach, so they both could send out a soul piece that creates a Schrift. Orihime may have gotten such a soul piece and thus her powers.
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>>139695074
No, but she is Soul King's leg.
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