Are they already a hundred "generic harems"?
Silver haired girl.
And she's aggressive about it.
Would suck his dick.
Emile is a dude. I`ll gladly let him fuck me.
>it's another "MC-kun goes to an elite academy where teenagers learn to fight the big bad, he butts heads with attractive girls, he becomes top dog and acts stereo-typically heroic, also s a harem forms around him" anime
How many other ways can you redress and retell the same fucking story?
>the dynamic would be different and unique
True Originality is a myth just because you never see or read the story doesn't mean the similar story doesn't exist. forcing this meme is stupid people have brain to know true originality in story is a hypocrisy.
>'Every' story is a redress and retell the same story you know that's a stupid statement
Not to this level: beat for beat, same fucking thing. I swear I called Ms. Boobs-Council President was going to challenge him to a duel in exchange for repelling the expulsions before it happened. I mean from then on you had to be an idiot not to know what's going to happen. It's like a "color by numbers" anime.
Same tropes with different names for the characters, the weapons and the antagonists.
When is the last boob council president do 'challenge for a duel let alone for helping people from expulsion'? julis is more like a flat and not even a school president and not helping anybody from expulsion. i think your bias make you so much looked a like to a hypocrite
Infinite Stratos: MC-kun fights Cecilia within the first day of arriving because of dick-measuring drama.
Asterisk War: MC-kun duels one of the top students (or the best? I forget) because of sexy misunderstandings.
Honestly I don't keep up with anime that follows this template so I don't know the actual names. But it keeps happening over and over. It's not always the student council about some expelled students, so hey there's your originality and variance, I guess. Maybe next time it'll be the kendo club captain about MC-kun discovering her dildo collection.
Yes you clearly a hypocrite. the reason you hardly see your meme original story because your story is not selling enough to be adapted for an anime. in other word you just have a shit taste and a hipster too but try to act relevant.
You are way more invested into this anime, this thread and this discussion than I am, I'll give you that.
So how accurate does this chart apply for this show?
>seen in her underwear
>punishment for peeping
>this leads to a duel
>protagonist uses a sword
>so does the heroine
>heroine has a fire attribute
remains to be seen
>Mfw i thought i was watching infinite stratos
Rakudai has several differences that make it SLIGHTLY better, but they start almost exactly the same.
For one, instead of blowing up her room, Stella drags Ikki to the goddamn principal's office.
They're about as different as that highschool guy is involved in a love triange love story craze we had in the late 90s and early 2000s.
I mean... we had shows like futakoi back then where all the girls in the town he went to where futago or twins.
You know it's weird when those two shows diverged so completely by like episode 2? If you watched it.
It was just plain luck that they both started the same.
Also other magical highschool battle harems include Ichiban Ushirou no Daimaou, and Juuou Mujin No fafnir and yeah... no... they're not the same.
I mean.. it doesn't even fit with Infinite Stratos. Come on.
I'm not one to usually find the main heroine best girl, but goddamn she's infiltrating my heart.
This right here says I've seen 102 harems and I bet all of them were generic.
>hotblooded genki reverse trap roommate who is openly affectionate from the moment you meet her
>is also your childhood friend from years ago whom you weren't even sure was alive, and she's been looking/worried about you all this time
This is a done deal
White-Haired and energetic just like Fino Bloodstone.
We're just here for the cute girls. Who cares about the generic cliches and plot?
This is a demon and heretic, not your wai-
Shit wait wrong show.
Too bad thorn loli will probably not make it into this season.
This adaption may have something resembling a budget that might get blown in the first couple of episodes.
I can't stop watching this, the movement is so fluid.
The gay boy.
I don't follow. Are you telling that this is not the physique of a man?
That was literally the only scene where it was used and quality is already showing with blatantly stiff animation
>this leads to a duel
No, Emilia isn't the one bringing up a duel but Claire.
>>heroine has a fire attribute
>remains to be seen
She uses what you saw on the anime, other times she uses a bow. But not a sword so far.
People think because is has huge success they want yo replicate academy or battle harem in general with betamax mc but in contrast the one that having similar setting like IS are choosing more non gay mcs
you don't even know what hypocrite means. besides julis is a mixed example
1) in asswar, julis is one of the top fighters/students in the class, so bland beta-kun MC has to duel her in first episode to establish how badass he is, and make sure audience knows he's a top student. The reason for the dual is acting like a retard and jumping though an open window just so he could see Julis's lack of ass and cute panties
2) Chivalry had notBeta-kun duel Redhead-Tits girl who was top student in school, so he could establish he's a fighting badass. The reason for the duel is because the MC walked in on tits girl changing because she was put into his room as a roomate and he wasn't informed.
3) IS had dense-as-tungsten beta-kun dual blonde bitch drill princes to establish he's a badass and despite no training definitely belongs (no where near as egregious as beta-kun mc basically jobs against all the girls in the harem). The reason for the dual is over the position of class president, and MC is pushed into it for stupid reasons. in the same episode MC walked in on houki changing and got a kick to the head; tossing him out of the room
4) Hundreds has a edge-beta-kun dual a blonde bitch drill princess who is top of the school to establish he belongs in the discussion as best in the school, despite no training. the narrative reasons are shockingly identical to IS, and the event has similar impact to AssWar, as we have zero reason to care about the two bimbos about to be expelled and little reason to care about if the mc wins or not against bitch drill princess -president; and no apparent stakes for the MC losing as well. The reason for the dual is because MC caused the girls to be late by being a bitch and ducking their welcome cause "he's too edge for that"; BTW: MC walked in on trap changing and got a kick to the head, knocking him out of the room
>Are they already a hundred "generic harems"?
The idea or the formula might be bit similar but the development and the dynamic between each character or even the world setting will make each of them unique to everty other story in have existed on earth.
of all of these, the best "anime" is probably Chrome Shelled Regios. If only because it's the least painfully generic and the author TRIED to build a deep scifi setting to the world.
The most fun anime on this list was easily colorwars. Thankfully it forgoes the whole "school tournament" concept, and just focuses on crazy over the top harem antics and badass MC stuff.
The "ultimate" school battle harem (as in most representative of the genre, without sucking so badly you want to pop out your eyes and bleach your brain) is probably IS. It's generic but watchable. It probably helps that is was one of the first of these to air.
The least deserving to be on this list is Zero no Tsukaima. Technically, yes, it's a school battle harem, but in reality the story had little to do with the school other then a place for the MC to live. They could have changed the location to a military barracks and would have done little to the plot of the story.
The MOST school battle harem (in every way this word means, MOST, including amusingly "watchable") has to be Mahouka. Between the comically overpowered MC, overpowered SC, superpowered brocon, superpowered siscon, massive list of girls in harem who fit every fetish, bombastic plot, has an over the top school tournament arc, and such a trainwreck it's actually funny.
>Technically, yes, it's a school battle harem, but in reality the story had little to do with the school other then a place for the MC to live. They could have changed the location to a military barracks and would have done little to the plot of the story.
So, AntiMagic then?
>of all of these, the best "anime" is probably Chrome Shelled Regios. If only because it's the least painfully generic and the author TRIED to build a deep scifi setting to the world.
The best part of the season's obligatory harem garbage is watching the shit-eating cock-vacuums who try to defend it as being in some way unique from the identical millions that have come before it.
I haven't watched one of these since ISM, but I come to every thread just for a reminder that my tastes could be shitter.
Realistically speaking, what would be the minimum required effort to make these generic clones somewhat less generic?
From a business standpoint, I understand why they keep making the same shit over and over. But I personally can't understand why these studios/producers/etc REFUSE to deviate at all from this fucking awful formula they've created.
Want to know what would be cool?
>For once instead of not recognizing the girl from his past, the MC remembers her right off the bat & whatever cliche promise he made with her.
>Tells her that it's been a while & his feelings are not the same, but would like to be friends.
>MC then proceeds to earn her affection through his actions throughout the series, instead of having it shoved at him from episode one.
Or how about having us believe that shit is really fucked up. Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse has some of the best atmosphere in it's first few episodes; you really believed humanity was screwed.
Do you get anything like that in these harem shows? FUCK NO:
>dumb random flashback
>duel with main bitch
>non relevant SoL fanservice
>non relevant SoL fanservice
>non relevant SoL fanservice
>big bad fight
Nothing means anything, and everything is terrible.
>girls got into trouble because of MC
>he doesn't mention that it was his fault at any moment
>it takes his friend causing more trouble for him to stand up and try to fix everything
>even so he still doesn't mention that it was all his fault
Is this asshole supposed to be the good guy? You just had to say "They were late because I snaked off them".
Wouldn't someone who goes full autism whenever someone gets hurt be horrible as a soldier?
He might fuck up the whole team in the middle of a battle because he saw someone get hurt and he went off to help him.
ok summery of weak list. Like the chrome shelled regios call out. that shit was actually almost ok, which is rare for this genre. but I can't believe you skipped calling out the one "true" exception in the list.
Chivalry of a Failed Knight- The only anime on this list with a main guy and main girl hooking up, subverting the very idea of a harem. In fact there IS no harem in this anime, despite the "battle harem" similarities, this one has a very lopsided love triangle that turns straight romance by ep 4.
As a result I contend its the one anime on this shit list that truly doesn't deserve to be on the list. as it is NOT a harem.
Still it does look an awful lot like a lot of the other anime on the list.
But anon the purpose of these LNs and shows is to allow lonely middle-aged men to self-insert as the attractive, talented, loved-by-all, Gary-Stu MC.
If you throw anything interesting into the mix like the MC not actually being able to overcome something, or the MC not actually having a harem, then you remind the readers of their own, personal, crippling inadequacies and they won't buy it. This leaves you - the talentless hack of a writer - with a partially interesting story, but moneyless.
He doesn't wanna get kicked out and lose Imouto's fancy medical care.
I agree, instead of just coming clean, he just sat there like an indecisive prick with a thumb up his ass.
Not that it would spare them the duel; knowing how these oujo-sama types start out she wouldn't back down from her word and be really anal about "orders" and "rules" to save face about being so unreasonable.
Yeah, they go ahead pretty fast. But that's hardly surprising considering reverse trap is literally jumping on his loins by what'll be ep 4 or so, and MC being fine with it after reveals.
It's basic fucking logic.
They must be in need of good soldiers so they aren't going to kick the student with the highest potentail just because some bith said so.
Actually, I'm surprised that bitch is allowed to kick anyone.
They did that on their own, and were late on their own.
He didn't expect their arrival nor wanted it, plus how was he supposed to know they were autistic enough to wait so long they'd be late?
Your all the cute girls are faultless mentality is showing.
He did nothing wrong.
Well she becomes a bit bigger as the novels progress as well.
Does she want to kill Onichan too? Otherwise she is inferior to Kiseki.
Kiseki wanted to eat the world, kill the and then tentacle rape the harem for Onii-chan. So make a guess.
He's embarrassed about his feminine penis and didn't want his gay crush to see.
>student has the power to summarily expel other students
Isn't it more of a pseudo military academy sort of thing.
Let see last season battle harem anime list succes and flop. Succes= konosuba utawarerumono gate flops = luck and logic, aokana, unkown number phantom worlds. It still can change for the better. Normal harem success koyomi.
I think people need to read umi no misaki to experience that harem genre is not about cliche but can have romantic romance too. It is not about lazy writing but in depth writing too, not all about edgy battle or comedy but can be serious and comfy too .
Granted, that hasn't exactly made me enjoy the rest episode with some of the other predictable stuff going on, especially the duel.
I'm just hoping this end up avoiding more cliches like this. But who am I kidding
I wanna protect this smile.
What about a story where he is hyped up as being OP when he actually isn't?
>There is no real imouto asain girl this is not hentai.
Schwarzesmarken - Theo and Lise are brothers, Theo fucked Lise.
Not only did Theo clear an H-scene, he also was trying to start the Iris route while he was still on the Lise route. Theo kills her sister, Not many shows have the MC killing the imouto. That's better than something like 98.5% of male protagonists.
We were this close too
>Lise Hohenstein from Schwarzesmarken Requiem vol 2
Lise was captured and gangraped by the Stasi.
She wanted to give her first time to her brother.
Axmann told that it was all recorded, and would be shown to her brother unless she does what they say.
She agrees. Axmann (The Stasi Armed Police Security Force "Grey Beast" as per chapter) was the one who broke her. He tells her after the first time "Don't worry, I won't be touching you. I'm a guy who likes cleanliness, and after your new friends had fun with you, you're filthy."
She undergoes training to be a fem-fatal sleeper operative, getting her body used to get information for the Stasi. She also ends up being the secret mistress for the Security Force.
So with Imouto already undergoing training, if they took in Theodore as well, there would be a risk of them meeting, thus spoiling the plan to use Lise. They let him run loose to have a hold on Lise. Not to mention that if Oni-chan knew Lise was in with the Stasi, he would know who screwed him over as well, since he always thought she was dead.
She believes Axmann planned to us her that way from the start.
Constantly crying for Oni-san to save her when she is alone, but knows her body is too defiled already, having lost count of how many had had her.
Theodore managed to join the army after getting tortured, the NVA and Stasi are political rivals, so they couldn't really touch him without an excuse. That's why they had to send Lise in to get Irisdine.
After the events in Schwarze with Irisdine getting captured, she is blindfolded in Theodor's arms, apparently before her execution at his hands.
Thank you, relvierting, for all the translation work you are helping us with!
I feel bad Usagi never cut for that, so here ya go.
It's funny because NotChar is British.
By NotChar obviously meant the white haird reverse trap - which is copy of IS Charlotte in looks, voice and behavior.
Too bad Charlotte name already reserved in this show to scientiest loly.
>Be best girl
>Gets paired up with Fritz aka best boy
Her name is Emilia Hammett, British
Pic related is French
Eh, idols are supposed to be a paragon of innocence, to be loved and admired as creatures of purity that belongs to everyone. Imouto will be that sort o idol given her personality.
On the other hand, I can see Pink being a parody of an idol via two-faced nature.
>all these people getting buttblasted and replying
you guys are aware 90% of the recommendation lists from /a/ are sarcastic and just aim to mislead newfags right?
this one in particular just wants to highlight how wasted the magical school harem genre and tried to be a compilation of the same shows in one list, its not meant to be take as an actual recommendation list of good shows
did I really have to explain that? fucking newfags.
So everyone says she's the annoying tsundere. I decided to take look at the manga and holy shit you were all wrong. She acts really tough and strict but outside that she's so fucking innocent. Fuck you anon.
She's that girl now, I'm so gonna like this.
Yes, the guy literally read the first few volumes or IS, thought it would be better with Charlotte as MC, and did so. Go look at the release dates for IS and Hundred LNs and it all lines up.
I love Luvia!
Tried to watch this. I mean, there should be some laughter to be had, even with a generic piece of shit? But no, I had to shut the player 6 minutes in. It's just too fucking shit.