because yuri is shit.
>I don't believe women are able to love another woman.
>I don't believe a woman is able to satisfy another woman as good or better as a man can.
Its weird, unsettling and shouldnt be promoted.
Cross Ange was the 10/10 train wreck of the season.
she thought the same thing, yet how well did it end for her anon?
GASSING THIS SUB
It was popular when it was on.
Probably had memorability issues aside from Nana wills it, best maid and Chris a irredeemable shit.
rip Miranda and Coco
Yeah, you are retard. And newfag at that. Both shows had huge views on Niko, VVV was the most popular and discussed show both on /a/ and 2ch - more talked about even than SnK. Come back when any other show on /a/ gets 3500k post topics before pushed to page 10, or have 7k worth of posts in multiple topics during livestream
The fact shows dont sell does not correlate with amount of people who watched, discussed and enjoyed it.
CA clearly showed the female protag having a sexual relationship with a guy. It had strong yuri elements, but it wasn't a yuri show.
How they resolved it was almost more hilarious to me.
>angry mob gathered to witness the public execution of a woman they all accuse of being a monster
>she escapes by straddling a flying motorcycle
>before she leaves she curses their names and vows to exact bloody vengeance on the world
I mean she may as well have been casting poxes on their cattle and eloped on a flying broomstick.
To be fair that wasn't exactly a song. It was the harmonic key of the universe, which coincidentally sounded like a song.
Didn't they retcon all the Macross 7's song magic into fold waves?
>That butthurt from the rest of the internet for it
>they blew it
I thought it was great
I still remember the smug as fuck Anons who unironically thought Tusk and Top Maido died.
You dont kill your best characters off screen
Their tears were glorious.
The trained soldiers who invaded Arzenal only used mana shields.
Momoka created mana shields, used Mana to cushion a high speed fall, rammed a vehicle into a guy who was for all ends and purposes god, and even resisted for a brief moment said god's mental control.
Top meido indeed.
The guy was just a fedoralord who got god powers thanks to an accident. His ego was so big that the believed he was undefeatable until the very last moment, when Sala & co invaded his safe space.
He defeated himself, just like Diabolo.
Sylvia was a formidable combatant despite her age and sheltered lifestyle. She was obvious proficient with small arms and her bayoneted rifle. And she was outright surgical with a whip. Combined with her "flexible morality" and her lack of regard for the sanctity of human life she was truly a dangerous foe.
>gritty post apocalyptic living in a collapsed utopia with everyone's favorite imouto
Is it bad that I kind of like it better than CA's premise?
I like CA, it reminds me of Gundam Seed. Plus it wasn't ERU ERUFU tier of writing.
>the relationship of ange and tusk
its not that complicated
>The story is over
It ain't over till Ange is around
Sylvia is a joke of a character
That's your problem.
I think yuri is cute but I can't fap to it, even if it turns me on a little it doesn't have enough happening.
But yuri relationships are alright as long as it has proper development. I think CA did it just fine.
Why would you intentionally stop yourself from watching a show or enjoying it because of a side relationship or yuri undertones? That's silly anon and you're silly.
>gritty post apocalyptic living in a collapsed utopia with everyone's favorite imouto
Both worlds destroyed, new evil invaders will finish the job by eliminating ex-mana humans and norma.
Did Ange thought it was good idea trying to eliminate the Mana world?
I remember that at least on /a/ the threads were fairly active from episode 1 and onward.
>Did Ange thought it was good idea trying to eliminate the Mana world?
Ange didn't give a shit. There was nothing to go back to, and she could not possibly give less of a fuck about the surviving manas. They can rebuild or rot away, she doesn't care. She's got her cafe and that's good enough for her.
>abandon the same little two-faced twat who crossed you at every opportunity after you got sent to lesbian space genocide jail to rot
>but not before giving her one last life lesson to be able to survive
That's just what you get when you Cross Ange.
>Why was cross ange unpopular?
wut? threads exploded after each ep
The cybernetic alpha dyke left us too soon. She didn't deserve what she got.
COCO WAS ONLY 13
Oh, I miss these threads. I miss you guys
I remember I got really into overthinking the economy of Arzenal and how depressing it all was from a sociological viewpoint. Especially the festa episode was full of stuff that could be viewed as subtext even though I'm dead certain the show's creators only barely put any thought into it themselves. Discussing things like how Jasmine was making bank on peddling surplus merchandise of Perolina to Arzenal's preteens long after the rest of the world stopped caring about the mascot, or stuff like how the festa's carousels ridden by the kids were poorly maintained pieces of aged junk, I really enjoyed talking about all of that.
Embryo has lived long enough seeing and destroy first world during that time.
He knows he isn't the only human construct lived like Aura. He might have done work with other planets too. Whatever his back plans are he has someone or something during the bidding.
Sunrise needs to greenlit to milk this franchise further.
Go back to your grave and lay on it Alektra
Japan hates "originals" they prefer their 12 episode adaptations of unfinished sources with made up bullshit endings.
Now if they made a manga a few months before, boom those psychotic fucks would've went nuts about it.
>Pink haired "milfy" supporting character
>Red headed tsundere lesbo
>MC getting fingered in the butt by the end of the first episode
Had me on my ass laughing, and enjoying every minute of it.
Then explain how it came to be that there's 2, MABYE 3 originals a season nowadays, that are always shit anyway, surrounded by 20+ adaptations of unfinished manga's, and LN.
They don't sell, the creator's/studios realize this, and boom more adaptations.
It's much easier to follow what's going on without wanting to tear your eyebrows out. It also looks like animated goulash. And if Haruto for you mad because he was wimpy, know that Ange is pretty much the complete opposite of that.
Because anon doesn't want to have their PTSD triggered by yellow male animation rape fantasies that oppress their gender fluid sensibilities or whatever the farleft calls it these days.
>side characters define the shows genre.
by that logic its a harem too!
and while your at it pls explain how the blond dyke getting impaled, tusk burring his face in Ange's crouch on several occasions and fucking her for 3 days, Hilda getting BTFO >>138916356. is pro yuri
People always say this about fanservice shows, but it's patently false. Fanservice shows need doujins the MOST! We get cockteased for 13-26 episodes, and never get a release. Doujins are necessary to go past that final line that even the most daring of shows will not cross.
Seeing this guy get cucked was one of the most satisfying moments in anime history
Behead all those who insult Embryo-sama!
Man, Salia was a shit, but Jihl was the absolute worst.
"Embryo please let me suck your cock more!"
"Fuck you, Embryo! I'll show you! I'll spend half my life and the waste the lives of countless girls to get my revenge on you!"
"Finally, I can get my revenge on you, Embryo! ...Please let me suck your cock?"
Add to that how her master plan was entirely dependant on one single person she alienated with her stupidity, and her head was so up her ass that he believed only royals were worthy of Villkiss, only for Salia mastering Cleopatra (teleporting and everything) at the end.
Jill a shit.
>I can't self-insert, because no one is raping tusk.
It was popular in Japan, and decently recieved on most other anime sites, but quickly forgotten.
Only /a/ made a big drama fest out of the assrape.
On a separate note, I finally found an archive that has all the threads with the full images saved, time to rewatch the show, read the threads and even save them.
I'm so sorry she didn't win anything. Didn't even need to score with Ange, I just feel bad that even bloody Chris got a better ending.
>an archive that has all the threads with the full images saved
There is such a thing!?
>Only /a/ made a big drama fest out of the assrape.
Weren't feminists mad as fuck about that? Hell if I recall correctly someone mentioned in one of the threads while it was airing that some female ANN writer tried to shut down all discussion of CA on the site after 50 times the pain and pleasure.
>one ANN writer
I know 4chan makes it easy to believe in hiveminds, but one person's opinion piece on a mediocre anime news site doesn't speak for everyone who happens to share that person's political views.
Eh, it was pretty forgettable. the whole "shock value" of the first episode got everyone's attention but the reality of it being an ecchi series with no nipples and poor production values meant it didn't stick with you for the long run.
>poor production values
Which just made it even more fun to watch.
I should hate her, but she's one of my favorite characters. I hope she finds happiness with a cute dragon girl, someday.
I can't really explain that, the events were successful, it got a nice following when it aired, the merch sold out quickly, but it was forgotten. Maybe the staff didn't promote it enough.
Its staff got some questionable people (Fukuda and Yamanaka) + the studio was dissolved afterwards.
>no doujins, no fanart, no Goro even
>before the show was even out, the one porn actress that could pull Salia off decently made a scene which is pretty much what parody cosplay porn of her character would be
I'm not sure if it's a gift from heaven or life is mocking me.
I mean Aoi Ichigo is my favorite, but that movie is just another form of Salia bullying.
I think it was due negative situations occurred with Fukuda overseen the series.
Also Nana didn't like Ange, but If there's a new Cross Ange project Nana would do it for the money.
Not every Bandai/Sunrise series is a hit but their ability to score overwhelming sudden franchise starter megahits out of nothing and next to no expectations is absolutely uncanny when it works which seems to be at least once every couple years. It's the fact that they tend to do it without relying on any pre-established popularity in an era where almost all original anime IP's are crashing and burning while nobody else seems to be able to do this with regular frequency that tends to set them apart and make people think that everything they do is a hit.
>Muh strong and hot blooded battle princess
Never change Sunrise but actually do something this year maybe
That's fucking ridiculous considering it may be Sunrise's worst animation ever and the sub-studio that did it (13 AKA Nerima, same one as Valvrave) closed down right after possibly do to piss poor quality control. Then again the show had a lot of brand power going for it and that carries a lot of weight in Japan.
Basically what I've learned from Cross Ange and Valvrave is the higher the number of the sub studio and the later it was founded the shittier the animation quality except seemingly for 8.
This is the studio that seemingly doesn't have to do any work to make money because they can just rely on their treasure trove of licenses and royalty makers. Virtually the only studio besides maybe Khara with Eva that is the license granter rather than the other way around. I mean while everyone else is scrambling to make shitty light novel adaptations they can just pump out some Gundam OVAs or whore out Love Live to some other company to use as a marketing tool and be fine. I fucking hate it though cause it means we barely get anything from them anymore these days. I knew if Love Live especially became a hit it'd pretty much ruin the studio so of course it goes ahead and becomes pretty much the smash hit of the decade that overtakes even Madoka.
Well Bandai Namco has been changing the names of everything within the company constantly so that it has their name at the head of it and seems to be forever reorganizing things so that would hardly be surprising. Lantis gets to keep it's name for now but I'm totally expecting it to get renamed to Bandai Namco Music Company or something at some point.
That's because Embryo thought with his dick when it came to Ange. He kept thinking he can NTR her away from Tusk once she had gotten a taste of a god D from him personally. It's pretty much been shown Embryo has no idea how to treat a lady right without his powers.
VVV doesn't have the tongue-in-cheek quality to it like Cross Ange does. Plus it gets a lot further into edge territory.
It also helps that Ange is an unapologetic bitch who kicks the asses of those who cross her, whereas Haruto was just a whiny little bitch like most modern protagonists.
Do you even know what that word means? Stop trying to sound smart you fucking newfag
Sunrise Princess/Idols>Gods and forces of nature I'm pretty sure is how this works. Keep in mind we're talking about the studio that created a franchise literally called My Princess that more or less demonstrates this.
Ange was a close second, but after an entire year of thinking it carefully I realized that Hilda was the best girl.
This show turned to shit as soon as Tusk and Embryo became main characters.
Dragonland arc was the best of the second cour.
I would have been ok with Momoka dying if Tusk also stayed dead.
Well the fact is corporate meddling has been a problem for Sunrise. It's just pressure from business and fans who support franchise just been tearing themselves apart for years.
If LoveLive becomes their meds to deal with issues like then I don't blame them.
>show has lesbians
>it must be yuri
you mean Mai HiME, so they are still relevant today.
Yuri: subtext, nothing explicit or even real, all the relationship comes from the audience's headcannon. It's basically porn without the sex scenes
Lesbian: actual on-screen lesbians doing lesbian things.
then I'm this will die soon since its a yuri manga
I'm not a yuri fan or anything, but I think CA treated its lesbians with respect, even going as far as giving a happy ending to the B couple.
Ange didn't reciprocate Hilda's feelings but she acknowledged them and gave her the certainty that they're no wrong.
Now, if only the animators included full blown sex scenes, instead of implied ones. Then the show might have done much better.
>because yuri is shit.
How does it feel, being a deviant minority?
They do. Chris/Rosalie wasn't as satisfying since Chris was shit. Ange/Hilda was the one they were all pining for, and got supremely mad when she hooked up with Tusk after he defied death. What made it worse is that Ange made it explicitly clear that she will never love Hilda in that way.
Which one would you say better invokes pic related?
Cross Ange has a fairly coherent plot, except for the interlude where they travel to Dragonland.
Samurai Flamenco stops making sense after Slicing Simian, but is enjoyable nonetheless.
So Samurai Flamenco, I guess.
Because it was garbage.
It was way too dumb and grimderp.
They wanted to make an edgy yuri series since Madoka sold so crazy good, but fucked up completely.
It's a Sunrise Crusade (TCG) specific artwork featuring one of the main characters from OZ The Reflection Marrybell Mel Britannia
I think Yukarin is just done. She's 40 years old and tired of acting like she's 17. Her contract with King Records expired just two days ago, and I'm guessing she wants to not do quite the same thing she was doing while signed with them.
It's pretty much the worst animation I've seen come out of Sunrise since the really early 80's when they used to be practically mom and pop sized and needed to do co-productions with Toei like Combattler V just to have a prayer of seeing projects to completion. Considering they've barely done new on TV since I'm starting to get the impression that something went horribly wrong at Sunrise around the Fall 2014. Maybe some big producer or veteran quit or the mass reorganization by Bandai Visual fucked them like one anon suggested. I'm still planning on using AnimeJapan 2016 as a gauge since Bandai is supposed to have a decent sized panel there. If we just get nothing from them again besides some Studio 8 stuff I'm going to assume I'm right.
>I think Yukarin is just done. She's 40 years old and tired of acting like she's 17.
17 is her charm son, Yukarin isn't going to quit because of this. She has to motivate herself and find a way get back on top.
>If we just get nothing from them again besides some Studio 8 stuff I'm going to assume I'm right.
Like LoveLive: Sunshine PV, Accel World movie and possible new Mai Hime announcement or new original anime series ?
Anything is possible for Studio 8
Most seiyuu have reached their expiration date well before 40, anon. She had a good run, but now it's time for her to transition into an "elder statesman" actor. Or transition to eroge.
Because it's shit. There are many reasons why it's shit, but for me personally it was the protagonist being unlikable. There are many stories across different media where you're supposed to dislike the protagonist, but in this case we're expected to sympathize with a protagonist that's an entirely horrible person.
In fact, none of the characters were engaging at all. They were flat, boring, unappealing and any attempt at characterization felt forced. Other than the aesthetics (which aren't revolutionary for the time) I have nothing good to say about this show. And that's coming from someone who generally dislikes all the negativity on /a/!
I felt like Hilda's story was left unresolved
She doesn't make the best first impressions.
I blame Fukuda.
Even as producer he found a way to fuck everything up and get a shit show running. Probably demanded it be intentionally shitty as a throwback to old ass anime like how he went about Gundam SEED.
>tfw no comfy Ange threads in Anno Domini 2016
Even the promotional art is QUALITY. They somehow even managed to make the final shot of the show into QUALITY, and that was a fucking still shot with no animation whatsoever.
>Hilda should just go get a dick like her friend Ange did
She needs to have sex with her mother, that would heal her.
Tusk taunts Embryo in the final battle by proclaiming that he and Ange fucked for three days and three nights before heading into battle. Embryo just freezes up and looks like he wants to bite his tongue and cry in a corner.
>shame about the Hiraiface
G A Y
Is it cause you see so much of yourself in him?
Yes and no. He's the only major character that isn't a piece of shit one way or another so seeing him get the short end of the stick time and again without so much as speaking a word in protest pisses me off.
>Even Cross Sylvia.
Sylvia doesn't MC potential, this is Ange show
Momoka being the MC would take the cake
>Either you like this shitshow or you have mommy issues
Reminder that Salia was the best pilot, the best character and the best girl.
Rhode Island, carrying that flag alone.
I want to watch something and have Cross Ange downloaded, but should I really choose it over the other chinese cartoons I have? Pic related.
All of those are fantastic shows (except for Kaiba; I never watched it so I can't give my opinion about it).
You should watch Kino no Tabi and Azumanga first, unless you really want to watch Cross Ange. Just listen to your heart.
How much of a fuck do you have to be to have this opinion?
She is one of the reasons the show is shit. She was presented as this incredibly important character who lived countless past lives with Ange yet she didn't do shit. Fukuda was too busy trying to fuck Nana with his self insert.
>Hilda should just go get a dick
How? The world is left with only one penis at the end.
Her name is Tatekami Seri and she's one of Fafner's more spectacular girls in its ensemble of excellent characters.
/m/ made a how to into Fafner chart
I don't know if I want this to be true. What is worse, knowing that your favorite show was not up in everyone's alley so it flopped, or that it could have been successful but one guy fucked up.
I think that Cross Ange would have flopped even if it had an actual budget and less sloppy writing during the second half. Especially if it had a big budget.
As you said, it wasn't up in everyone's alley.
Ange didn't have to flop. It had gorgeous mechs, an all star voice cast and decent character designs. Fukuda had a different vision from the rest of the staff. He has admitted to not caring about how or why things happen and just wants the result. He's terrible.
Honestly she's better off going out on a relatively high note though I wouldn't mind seeing her be a Megumi Hayashibara and push her career almost into her 50's like is becoming increasingly rare for female seiyuu. These days most of them are barely guaranteed a life expectancy beyond a few years since it's managed like idol groups. Once their looks start to fade their roles start going more and more to younger better looking seiyuu.
And then he whined about why it wasn't more popular on twitter and how people were criticizing the job he was doing. It sucks that his wife died this month but honestly good riddance if he never makes anything again. He really just doesn't fit in well at Sunrise and never did frankly, did not enjoy his stint with Gundam one bit.
This is probably the closest Sunrise will ever come to producing straight porn, then again Horizon....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYUP-WKQUp0
which looked far better I might add.
>Ange didn't flop though, it broke well past even
Source on that? The show only had Blurays for merchandise until the recent RD toys. Most of which are exclusives showing they weren't in high demand. Considering Fukuda wants to make more if it was worth the effort Sunrise would have already asked for it.
We don't know the budget so you can't say 6k is a great thing. Volume 1 had concert tickets in it and considering the level of the cast assembled we don't know how much it made versus the budget.
BDs sold enough, also they are the most important merch. There was also a good amount of other stuff like pens and banners and iphone cases and they sold out quickly. I'm quite sure the show was commercially okay. But for done reason or didn't left a big impression, it just went away. Also there's the stigma of being misogynist, even though it was the opposite.
Dude, you're not saying anything without proof. Where is the proof the stuff sold out fast? The misogynist talk was a western thing. Not eastern. So it has nothing to do with how well the show did.
It probably had something to do with the fact that it was fucking awful and people only watched it to fap or to laugh at how much of a terrible trainwreck it was.
>Being this untrusting of fellow anons
How? Everyone who was in the threads know this. Fukuda said the show sold enough. The merch quickly sold out, and is listed as one on most sites. There were images and reports about the monthly events that were quite lively, lots of people who had a fun time there and bought shit.
It's just you who joined this site last Thursday that don't know this.
>no one posted best girl yet
The fuck is wrong with you guys?
>Fukuda said the show sold enough.
He begged fans in that same tweet to ask for a second season. If Sunrise felt the show was selling week they already made a second season. They are really second season crazy these days.
>The merch quickly sold out, and is listed as one on most sites.
You keep saying this with no proof.
>There were images and reports about the monthly events that were quite lively, lots of people who had a fun time there and bought shit.
You mean like free concerts they got with bluray tickets? All you need to do is show some proof to shut me up.
>It's just you who joined this site last Thursday that don't know this.
I was here when the show aired. I was here and /m/. I remember all the bitching Japanese fans did on Twitter. I remember the RD being shown off and not being released until after the show was long over. I remember Fukuda begging fans to ask for another season. I remember fans complaining about Tusk as a whole. I remember fans complaining about Salia being used goods and hating her.
From what you said, I feel you were not here. You don't even know about the events where the fans had to buy tickets.
It was clear sunrise didn't want a second season but the point was that the show made money instead of losing it. It was of course not a big hit.
And don't talk about Salia, or show me footage of the festa event.
>From what you said, I feel you were not here. You don't even know about the events where the fans had to buy tickets.
Okay? And I feel you are a fanboy.
> was clear sunrise didn't want a second season but the point was that the show made money instead of losing it. It was of course not a big hit.
And don't talk about Salia, or show me footage of the festa event.
Dude, you're the one who keeps bringing up all these events. You should have evidence to back them up like videos or pictures. If the show did as well as you say it did pictures should be easy enough for you to find.
>And don't talk about Salia
Did I insult your waifu? She was hated for spreading for legs for a comically evil person to get a robot. Terrible character.
Dude, what do you want get out of this? I guess you are just shitposting now.
The point was that the show is not a flop, it sold enough for that. You can go to any buyfag site and check that the merch is sold out. And you should know about the fan meeting events, since people posted images in the threads back then. You weren't here?
I want you to post some facts.
>You can go to any buyfag site and check that the merch is sold out.
The show ended a year ago. How much of it sold out then and not during clearance sales?
>And you should know about the fan meeting events, since people posted images in the threads back then. You weren't here?
You can just post proof to shut me up instead of fanboying.
How should I post evidence about the merch selling? That's why I said that you would know if you were here back then. Also there might be data on how long they are sold out.
I still don't know what is your point. The show wasn't a flop. Deal with it.
>not being a pedo
Besides, I'm willing to wait for her to grow up a bit.
The show was a flop enough for the director to beg fans for a second season. How the hell are you going to claim merch sold but then say you have no evidence outside of "Y-you had to be here!". Then you get upset I insulted your waifu. The show flopped. If it didn't it would have a second season or at least some type of buzz. .
Dude just stop. I told you that you can check on any site that the merch is sold out. Also the most important part is the BD sales and you have solid numbers on that. Also Fukuda trolled us a lot on tweet, I'm pretty sure they didn't plan a second season.
The figmas are licensed merch, they don't matter much. I was talking about the pens and can badges and shit like that.
6k is okay, since it's over the profit line especially that King Records most likely sponsored the show so the VAs didn't cost that much.
>I-I was OK ask those threads I swear!! B-but post images from those threads or else you have no proof!
>The show went down hill around ep 6.
The show went down hill when they killed off these cuties.
It doesn't have Figma and Bandai owns the RD line. Pens and badges cost $5 each.
You don't even know the profit line because you don't know the budget.,
>I-It sold out and was an amazing success! I have no proof of anything but trust me! F-Fukuda said so! H-his begging was a joke!
I told you that it was not a boy success but sold okay. Which was admitted by the staff. What do you want to prove here?
>it didn't have figmas
Then what are the RDs?
You can check the merch being sold out, it doesn't really matter of you don't believe they sold out fast. The company got the money regardless. And you should know that the cheap merch means a lot because they seek in large quantities and cost nothing.
>I told you that it was not a boy success but sold okay. Which was admitted by the staff. What do you want to prove here?
Sold okay is a flop
>Then what are the RDs?
Jesus Christ. You say I wasn't here and you don't even know the merchandise most people were salivating for?
>You can check the merch being sold out, it doesn't really matter of you don't believe they sold out fast. The company got the money regardless. And you should know that the cheap merch means a lot because they seek in large quantities and cost nothing.
It does matter when it sold because things go on clearance meaning less money for the store selling it meaning they wont order any more of the products for the series. The RD line had 2 regular releases, 1 which is currently 62% off while the other is nearly 30% off. The rest of the line is web shop exclusives because there was no confidence they would sell.
>HURR DURR IT DIDN'T OVERSELL LOVE LIVE AND MADOKA COMBINED SO IT'S A HUGE FLOP
We knew that it wasn't a big hit, but it sold okay. With your logic 99% of anime are flops.
Also the RDs are figmas you fucking retard, are you even buyfag?
RD aren't Figma. Two different companies and two different lines. Unless /a/ calls everything Figma then that is retarded. In any case the RD line is Bandais. Not outsourced or anything. It doesn't have to break records to be a success. It just needs to match up to the standards you would expect from a show with the cast it has.