Is anyone else incredibly disappointed by /a/'s reaction to this last episode?
Satoru went back in time to try to stop a mass murdering that he had been unable to stop when he was a kid. Not only did he save three kids from dying, but countless more that would come after, not to mention his mother.
Yet all the fags over here can think about is how this one girl that had her life saved didn't fuck him back as a reward for being saved (Not even accounting the fact that said savior was in a coma for fifteen years)
You people have been conditioned way too much by shitty anime where fake badly written women worship the ground the main character walks on for the sake of being fap fodder. You projected yourself on Satoru and got mad on his behalf for him not getting the sex reward. It's typical "nice guy" bullshit.
The worst part is that Satoru himself was just happy beyond belief that he had managed to save her and she was living a good life that had been taken away from her in the previous timeline.
If you knew a woman you thought was attractive was gonna die and you knew that by saving her, she still wouldn't fuck you, would that stop you from saving her? Pathetic. This is why you will never be loved, /a/.
>If you knew a woman you thought was attractive was gonna die and you knew that by saving her, she still wouldn't fuck you, would that stop you from saving her?
A lot of people would say yes but I say it won't stop me. Like I give a shit if she wouldn't fuck me as long as she's still safe and sound.
The whole cuck/ntr bullshit is retarded, but I still think Satoru is a dumbass for not trying to catch the killer. He merely concentrated on saving the victims when he should have been more worried about tailing them and seeing who was going after them.
Also, how did Satoru survive getting drowned? I assume he was saved by someone? If so, did they not see the teacher? Did they not notice the car on the sea where he was a passenger on the side? Did they not notice that the car looks suspiciously like the teacher's real car? Was there no fucking investigation whatsoever about this?
I don't give a shit about Kayo but it's a bit saddening to me that a lot of his good memories of his mother and that pizza delivering chick are now null and void because they happened in a different timeline.
What the hell are you talking about? He failed to stop the killer so he continued murdering during all those years. Even worse, since he was in a coma and like he said that was his last revival, all the people that he saved are now dead in this timeline (like the kid who gets ran over by the truck).
I'd go back and time and get a higher killcount, OP.
Satoru should have been way more careful, he doesn't get the excuse of being a children, he's 29 years old inside his brain. How the fuck did he not plan how to catch the murderer better? And how the fuck did he not suspect the teacher?
I haven't watched it yet, and I abandoned the threads ages ago. I want to read the end before I catch up with the anime.
/a/ is terrible as usual though so all of this is barely worth saying.
It's a bad story. It will annoy people regardless of logic or morals, because of the terrible plot contrivance.
There's a shitload of stories with bittersweet ends, but you only get salty readers/watchers when they feel they got deprived of a better ending on purpose by the author.
Overall it's a net loss of people that Satoru saved. To save his mom, Hiromi, Kayo and the other one he sacrificed himself and all the others he had saved to do so.
Not to mention 15 years of his life and if he tried to hook up with Airi she'd be like 11 years old
>Not to mention 15 years of his life
Eh, that's kind of not really a loss, though. Because he DID live those 15 years of his life and apparently he didn't have a great time with them.
Now he has the experience of 15 years of life but in a much better condition (coma affects aside)
Not really, no. This is how this place always has been.
That aside, this is a pretty generic anime, all things considered. The first episode was quite captivating. So much so, in fact, that I read the whole thing after seeing it. And... that might've been a mistake. The manga was quite bland. The antagonist is boring and the hero doesn't act like an adult, at all. Like many people already said, he never bothered to actually catch the criminal, even when he almost had him by his balls. In the bus, for instance, he could've staged an ambush with his friends / mother. He could've even simply observed from afar. Or, consider the car scene... can't wriggle out of a simple seat belt? Seriously? Don't even attempt to open the door, or try to turn the wheel? Pretty unrealistic reaction... especially for an adult...
>Satoru doesn't even know Airi in this timeline even though his mother said that she had high girlfriend potential
>We will probably never see Airi again
>If you knew a woman you thought was attractive was gonna die and you knew that by saving her, she still wouldn't fuck you, would that stop you from saving her?
Yes? What am I? A fucking cuck?
>saving the distressed damsel is its own reward, you are not entitled to have your genetic legacy continue
And now you know why feminist men are the most pathetic cuckolds
>Is anyone else incredibly disappointed by /a/'s reaction to this last episode?
Yeah, I wish they went a little crazier. I was expecting NTR shitposting but it wasn't at the level I hoped for.
Moms are not for fucking, anon. Remember that the reason Satoru went back in time was to save his mom.
Ergo any complaint about losing kayo is stupid since she's not the reason he went back to 1988
The new timeline will probably still work out better for him. Old timeline Satoru was an ambitionless loser stuck forever in a dead-end minimum wage job. New timeline Satoru can start over again and has an excuse for his shitty CV, namely being thrown into the river by his psychopath teacher. He only needs to recover physically and will impress people with the speed of his mental "recovery" since he got those missing 15 years under the belt anyway thanks to time travel shenanigans.
Why were you expecting otherwise?
And I have to assume that this is desired reaction that the author intended, given how notorious NTR is over there. People will disavow heroines if it is revealed that they so much as have a boyfriend, much less fuck one of the MCs friends.
Also there is the fact that they CLEARLY built up romantic interest between the two characters throughout the series, letting the viewer know that this was not simply a platonic relationship. And whats more, the other characters in the show even knew that it wasn't platonic. I mean, his friend Hriomi was also killed way back then, but he didn't even give a shit about Hiromi; he was 100% focused on Kaya. Only once he knew Kaya was safe did he care about one of his best friends who was about to get murdered.
Tl;dr it is obvious that the author wanted this reaction from his target audience. As for why, I couldn't tell you. Maybe its a show about complete self sacrifice? Maybe he just wanted to anger people. Who knows.
I haven't read the manga so I don't know what happens next, but I doubt he is going to revert timelines after introducing the baby.
I'm sorry for being butthurt because I lost 15 years of my life in a coma to save one girl who ended up fucking another guy
I should be happy enough that I protected her smile haha... well, happy end achieved! Time to live the rest of my life in poverty due to lack of possible jobs and every night think about my lover's pussy getting pounded by a tiny dicked trap
>Remember that the reason Satoru went back in time was to save his mom.
Wrong. He didn't deliberately go back to save his mom. He just so happened to go back that far and then decided he could make right what once went wrong. Everything he did after arriving in the distant past he did for Kayo and not for saving his mother.
he still has the mind of a 29 year old mixed with his new childhood memories so in time travel terms he should be having a shit ton of nose bleeds from overlapping memories, but hey he can write manga again with his 'i got put in a 15 year old coma you should publish me' style
>Also there is the fact that they CLEARLY built up romantic interest between the two characters throughout the series, letting the viewer know that this was not simply a platonic relationship.
I never saw it as that, ever. I think it's just shippers projecting. If anything, I would think if anyone had romantic feelings it would have been Kayo and it would be explain some of her own guilt for 'moving on' while Satoru slept.
There was person that the author was hinting he had romantic feelings for, but it was never Kayo.
I said this in the others threads and I will say again: This is fucking fiction, stop comparing it with real life.
Yes, I think that they should have ended together, not because it's her obligation but simply because it would be cute (again: this is fucking FICTION).
That said I agree with the rest, most of /a/ is stupid.
Personally I'm less angry about "muh NTR" and more of the fact that this had shitty writing all around.
Think of it this way. You decide to write an non-comedy action flick about a bad guy and a nuke. You focus more on stopping the nuke and less on catching the bad guy.
80% of the movie in, the nuke launches and you find out the fucking thing is a dud. You have now caught the bad guy but you spend more than half the movie hyping this bomb.
There are only two possible reactions: 1 - People will be mad. 2 - Your movie will be subject to ridicule forevermore.
They don't seem to get the mangaka did it on purpose for shock value because they don't know he loves edgy shit.
He wrote himself into a corner because his mystery was shit: everyone except the retarded protagonist had guessed who the killer was since forever. So he pulled the coma shit to surprise his readers because that kind of outrageous shit will obviously make them react.
In the manga, his friends reminisce about situations that happened during his coma and he gets confused because he has the exact same memories from the original timeline (except it was Hiromi playing his part in the current timeline, of course).
There's even less butterfly effect here than in Steins;Gate.
Remember. Never trust a trap, they'll cuck you while you're in a coma.
This is the exact breeding strategy of certain species of birds and lizards.
They look like females so males don't react defensively to them, they sneak in, fug their target and escape.
>women are evil even in chinese cartoons
You are right that it was only obvious that Kayo had strong feelings for him, because the MC didn't know about his feelings; he was the stereotypical a-sexual MC. Just like every shit anime ever, they go out of there way to make the MC completely unaware of his own feelings to the point of being asexual for some stupid reason.
But the fact that all of his friends, and mainly his mother, knew about Kayo and Satoru's 'relationship' is more damning evidence. His mother is portrayed as an incredibly astute character who knows Satoru better than he knows himself. And they made it obvious that she was supporting him behind the scenes, and that this wasn't just to 'help a friend'.
Again, it was clearly built upon from the start that their relationship was not platonic, all in an apparent effort to make the fact that she ultimately marries Hiromi more impactful; did she and Hiromi even talk to each other during the entire show, for that matter?
Yeah I have to assume that this was done for shock value. The author was saying "I bet you thought you knew how this story was going to end, didn't you? well guess what...."
Somebody needed to say it. Thanks OP.
>How the fuck did he not plan how to catch the murderer better? And how the fuck did he not suspect the teacher?
Maybe you missed the fact that he's a literal retard. He wasn't even trying to catch the killer. His entire plan was to get the victims to be someplace else on the exact day they were killed the first time, and if he did that they would be fine. Something that would save someone if they died from a piano falling on their heads, but not if they are the victims of a serial murderer stalker, who could just kill them a different day or simply target someone else (plus his own actions could have changed the circumstances of the crimes to begin with, luckily they live in the world of hack manga writing, where everything is decided by destiny except for a few plot ploints, like routes in a visual novel).
There was zero investigation and his "multiple identical cars" setup was pointless to begin with. This was only addressed in one panel where it's explained that the police saw that the model of the car was the same as the teacher's but dismissed it because it had no relation. Of course it's unrelated, the police doesn't investigate every owner of a blue Corolla every time someone who also has one commits a crime, but what about the real investigation about that particular car? Not a word.
b-but they were destined for each other!
teacher gets arrested the MC decides to live out his life as a cuck in the NTR timeline instead of going apeshit to try and force another time reset trap-kun continues to bone Kayo everyday the end
Manga ends with MC hiding under that bridge from the rain Airi appears out of nowhere and asks if she can share the spot with him, then it ends. Its implied that they get together I love these delusional manlet endings the author comes up with
You don't get it. The people who really felt bothered by the "cheating" are just a minority. The majority is either playing along because they enjoy the shitposting (even if they don't even watch the show), or were disappointed by the show and took to NTRposting as a form of backlash. The manga is very poorly thought out, and the anime made it worse by focusing on young Kayo too much (and doing too good of a job with it), so it's even more jarring when you look at the series as a whole. The incredibly rushed final arc (as a result of spending most of its running time on Kayo's arc) sure doesn't help things.
This. /a/nons reacted very poorly. People feeling MC is entitled to get the girl just because he saved her are infantile. Unfortunately this is older than you think. Even before anime, this is Lois Lane bullshit logic.
He's not jobless. He's a mangaka with at least two assistants and his work is having an anime adaptation. He's still a weird strange older man crying at her though, it would have been funny if she was also married by that point (preferably to the pizza manager).
> Le less developed brain meme
All that would do is give him stronger emotions and no sex drive (as if that existed to begin with).
Of course people don't normally have 30yr old brains stuffed into elementary school kids so it's hard to find a reference.
>the anime made it worse by [...] doing too good of a job with it
This logic though.
Kayo was the only good thing about the show. Imagine this show with no characters anyone cared about. Absolutely forgettable/10. Instead we have, for example, this thread.
If anything, dealing with the killer directly and the other two victims should have played even less of a role.
It's the other way around. Even if she were to fuck me I still wouldn't save her if that means I would need to be at risk.
But I'm sure you guys will complain about this because you are thetypical moralfags.
>>saving the distressed damsel is its own reward
>still framing it in terms of reward
>I did something good therefore someone must owe me something
The show is trying to teach you why you are such a terrible person.
The Cuck Without Me", by Kayo Hinazuki When i get bigger, big enough to go somewhere by myself, i want to cuck my friend who's far away. My friend who's in a coma for 15 years. The friend who saved my life. I want to leave him with nothing but pain and sadness. He will have no adults, children or classmates, only his mom. I will fuck his friend when i want to fuck his friend, i will cuck him when i want to cuck him and visit him with his friend's baby when i want to. I will then think about the cuck i left behind. Kids go to school, like nothing has changed. Adults go to the office, like nothing has changed. His mom eats like she used to. When i think about the cuck without me, i can't help but to laugh. I want to cuck my friend.
>Is anyone else incredibly disappointed by /a/'s reaction to this last episode?
Opposite for me. My faith in the tiny not-entirely-autistic population of /a/ is strengthened by this thread. I thought it would be 100% m-muh NTR.
>not going back in time and siding with the killer once you see this
>heard about """NTR""" from day one but tried to avoid spoilers
>it finally came
>all that happened was Kayo decided to not to throw her life away on a 0.0001% chance that Satoru would wake up
>people actually blame her for this
Why are you fucks so stupid? Why are you so obsessed with cucks and NTR? Did you nerds get cucked at some point in your lives?
What bothers me is not the fact she fucked someone else, is the fact that she fucked the trap, Why him?. They did not even talk that much when they where children. Does this world only revolves around eight people?
>Why are you fucks so stupid? Why are you so obsessed with cucks and NTR? Did you nerds get cucked at some point in your lives?
What's illogical about what I said? If the rescuing Kayo's arc had been shorter and had a lesser impact then the series would have been more consistent. It could have been a 7/10 show instead of 9.11/10 but this backlash would not have happened. As it is now it's a mess. A mystery without a mystery, where nothing is really explained and most of the time is spent on one specific girl from his class he didn't even know, going through the motions of a romance story, while saving his friend and the other unknown girl is solved in just a few pages.
So Satoru always had those time travel powers? Or did he get them after the murder series in his childhood?
In that scene in which Yashiro is about to kidnap the girl in 2006 Sachiko mentions how Satoru has always warned them before bad things could happen, like with "that fire" once. They didn't explain what it was but Satoru probably prevented some burst of fire when he was kid.
It's not that he wasn't "rewarded" for a good deed, its that he was punished for it.
I would say that he committed the ultimate self-sacrifice, one in which his entire life was destroyed to save others without any chance of benefit. However, the fact that his poor mother suffered through it, arguably suffering worse then he did, that pisses me off even more. She was a much more like able character.
They made it clear from episode one that every time he uses his ability to save other people, he ends up worse for the wear. So it is absolutely a story about self sacrifice with no rewards. Maybe its a story about someone with a self-sacrifice fetish. So is the moral of the story that he should not have sacrificed himself and put his mother through hell?
>All this butthurt add in the fact that it's perfect bait material for the shitposters to ruin whatever scraps there can be discussed about this anime
Adachi did nothing wrong, you faggots wouldn't even be here wasting your time talking if it wasn't for him
>all that happened was Kayo decided to not to throw her life away on a 0.0001% chance that Satoru would wake up
Even if he did wake up he would be an 11 year old mentally.
They would have almost nothing in common other than being childhood friends.
Really there was no other option, the only other outcome is some sort of fucked up child grooming thing going on.
But then again /a/ would love that shit.
It means the trap even after the girl moved away met no females in the entire 15 years and decided to go for the girl his good friend was with while he was out of action. I know the author was going for a deeper message but when you write it on paper and read it it sounds pretty sickening.
He really did not end up in a worse position than before the story.
He had no friends, he didn't really make them in school and grew apart over time.
It's like his life might as well have not existed during that period in the original timeline.
The fact is he is closer now with his childhood friends than he was before.
But he didn't get to slay that pussy so I guess we can call him cucked and move on.
Does Yuki Kajiura not know other kind of sound for her music? The whole OST might be easily replaced by SAO/Fate/Madoka/etc OST and it would fit perfectly.
Well said anon
It just seemed pathetic seeing all kissless virgins here throwing a fit like how the MC should've been rewarded for sex like as a beta white knight would ask for
Jesus fucking cringe christ
>So is the moral of the story that he should not have sacrificed himself and put his mother through hell?
Don't think so. His self sacrifice saved his mother's life after all. Yeah, they both suffered but they're both alive and there's hope.
Also Kayo starting a family wasn't his "punishment". If anything. It was part of his reward.
The way the story played out was realistic, she absolutely would have moved on within a year or two. What people are mad about is that the author specifically had her hook up with one of his friends after setting up their romantic involvement over several episodes.
Sure, in real life the story makes sense, as much as a shitty magical time jump plot can, I guess. But the viewer does not see Kayo's timeline; we see from the point of view of the MC. One day he builds a strong relationship with her, saves her very life (in more ways then one, he saved her from her parents too). The next day he wakes up and she is married to his best friend.
And you think the author didn't do this intentionally, given the notoriety of NTR? Come on dude. It's fine if you are okay with it, but at least accept that it was intentional NTR from the author to play with the audiences emotions.
Madoka's OST was way more varied, this rather reminds me of F/Z or SAO without the annoying main track SAO had. It's not bad but the only track I noticed is the one that get's played during the more dramatic scenes as in the end of episode 2 when Satoru remembers how they found Kayo's corpse back then.
>being a literal cuck
Keep on denying that NTR
Most shows do this. If a story begins in middle school, they didn't have a life before that. If it starts in high school nothing important ever happened in middle school. And if there's a time skip, nothing happened during those years either.
It works from a narrative point because even if many years have passed for the characters, for the reader it's been only an instant, and if he was emotionally invested it's too jarring to ask him to completely change his mindset just like that, even if, realistically, the characters themselves could have completely different personalities, forgotten about their old friends, gotten completely over old crushes, etc.
Yes but she wasn't romantically involved at that point.
It would make literally no sense.
Did you want her to stay a 26 year old virgin and pine by his bedside for 15 years?
I mean the only thing /a/ is really mad about is that it was the trap who ended up hitting that.
But I'm pretty sure the only meaning behind that was they both die in the original timeline.
The power is never explained and always vague. Essential its 'The author wants something to happen'. The author wants this to happen, so the power doesn't work and the character doesn't want to.
That gyruu one. Although by 'blacked' he means one of the translators slipped something in about the main girl admiring a black actor.
More cuck memes. Truly they are the worse meme to happen in the last five years.
>It's not that he wasn't "rewarded" for a good deed, its that he was punished for it.
But he wasn't. His life is no worse than before. His mother went through a lot sure, but she gets a longer life out of the deal.
>self sacrifice with no rewards
And we're back to this.
He had some people he wanted to save. He did what it took to save him. That's all.
But him being like that is just him missing 15 years of a fake second life he never had.
True it would have been better than his original life but in the end he comes out better than he was before anyway
Kayo is a really cute mother. I hate mothers always having exaggerated proportions just because they're mothers. Satoru's mom is also pretty modest size. I like the art for mature women in this show.
The only superb track for me was the one that played when the foxes appeared in episode 3. The others were way too Kajiura for me to notice them. The OST is not bad but yeah, it's exactly the kind of sound you'd expect from her.
Yeah but the point is if the mother knew that she was somewhat the reason he was fucked up like that for 15 years she would probably want to have died. Also there is no way being knocked out as a vegetable can be worse than his previous life.
>Is this the cuckshed?
It's a fucking stupid message though, nothing would have changed if they fucked different people and had kids, hell he would have ended up one better because both of them had offspring
Tragedy brings people together, anon. They formed a stronger connection over Satoru's tragedy. They felt bad about their growing feelings but eventually decided to move on. They had their first son merely months before Satoru waking up, that should tell you how freaking long they thought things.
But he didn't lose his previous life.
He still remembers it.
Meanwhile he has no contacts, no friends and no ties to his past in his previous life.
He might as well have not existed for that duration as well. I kinda feel like that. I don't keep in contact with any of my old friends from elementary and highschool. It might as well be a figment of my imagination.
He is better off now, comma included, than he was before.
fuck off, people are angry at the shitty story and rightfully so. Why did they spend 90% of the series on Kayo and Satoru's relationship to have it end like this? It just doesn't make any sense, unless you realize the author was trying to provoke feelings from his audience.
I'm upset that the author tricked us, not that Kayo NTR her comatose childhood friend, because that makes no sense.
What? It would be far better if his enemy had cummed inside his crush rather than the useless side character. I'm disappointed he didn't even try that, but still soliloquies about how Satoru is his true nemesis who gives meaning to his life and all that garbage.
>being a literal cuck
So chasing girls and fucking women is the only thing gets through your thick fucking skull and nothing else?
quite the life achievements you got there you must be that fucking lonely eh kid? but holy shit I forgot where I am again
He lost his relationship time with Airi from his previous life. Sure you can argue they meet again, but nothing says they will be together. Also he is now the cause for his mother suffering for 15 years which she is okay with but that is because she is not aware that she was the reason. Whether his life is better or not is based on how you would handle the news of the sacrifices that were paid.
Satoru got the loli and his mother, that's all I ever wanted. Airi is just icing on the cake.
I don't care about the fucking cuck NTR bullshit, I just find it very hard to believe that in the 15 years since he got comatised trap and Kayo ended up together, it's contrived
Still that's a coward reason. Sachiko is as badass as a normal mother can be. If she can't protect her son from tragedy she'll made damn sure he can go through it and recover as best as possible.
erasedall the I/me/myself instances from the OP.
Airi is basically the only thing he losses from his old life and might still get her back.
If his mother knew the whole truth she would probably agree with his choices. He still remembers a life with her and she gets to keep living with him.
That is true, but it's even more upsetting honestly. If the author ended on a cliche "boy saves girl, stops the bad guy, boy gets girl", nobody would be discussing it because it's been done.
By throwing in this forced controversy he ensured that the story would stand out. I'd rather have a cliche than this "haha gotcha! Satoru doesn't get together with Kaya in the future, his friend Hirumi does lol!" bullshit
It's as contrived as her ending up with literally anyone else.
Less so since they know each other.
Just because you don't see them getting closer doesn't mean it doesn't exist, just that it's not relevant to the story.
>Being an hero means sacrificing yourself
Fuck whoever teaches people this
Become An Ally of Justice and leave humanity behind
>Also Kayo starting a family wasn't his "punishment". If anything. It was part of his reward.
Clearly, he was really happy to see she was alive. His 'punishment' was being stuck in a coma for 15 years, with his mother stuck caring for him. 15 fucking years. She is no longer the same person, not even remotely. Can you even imagine caring for a comatose relative for 15 days, much less 15 years?
>It's as contrived as her ending up with literally anyone else.
No it isn't, his entire goal was to make some fucking retarded statement about the lives he saved birthing new life when they could have literally done that with anyone with working genitals, it's contrived as fuck
Fuck you defending this hack writing
If it was inevitable there's no use in beating yourself over the fact. Sachiko thinks the same. That page they omitted from the manga where doctors adviced her to pull the plug and save both the suffering and told them to fuck off was badass as fuck. One of the non-fighting most badass moments in anime/manga i saw, in fact. Sachiko truly is best mom.
>I'm upset that the author tricked us
But the author didn't trick you, this fucking cuck meme did. That and you being a beta whiteknight faggot I guess.
The objective was to save the girl. And since it's a time travel story, the 'payoff' scene was always going to be him travelling back to the future, and then meeting her as an adult.
If you didn't expect it to play out this way by the end of ep2, you're a bit slow. Halfway through ep9 it outright tells you this is where it is going.
But why would I care if she's dead or alive if I'm not directly related to her?
Satoru didn't care about Hinazuki at all until his mother got involved. This was all for his mother, not Hina.
you just fucking know that's going to be how it is
Airi comes in and gives her bone juices to cancer loli, she spends a while in the hospital recovering, her an Satoru chat it up (encouraged by the sister) and they get together
I think you people are missing something much bigger.
He saved his mother, Kayo and Hiromi. But the teacher was still alive for 15 years.
What the hell do you think he was doing in those 15 years? Surely he didn't just stop.
Hell even if he wasn't murdering he lived his life, got married, and now has a top paying job. His life was good while Satoru ate shit in a bed.
>childhood friends dead or estranged
>antisocial as fuck
>killer still on the loose
>framed for murder and arson and completely fucked with no hope for the future
>Childhood friends alive, happy, married
>more social, has "grown up"
>still has friends due to the bonds he made in childhood.
>Killer is gonna get caught and fucked over next episode
>Mom is alive
>wont be framed for any crime, has a future filled with hope and possibility
Sounds like a good thing to me.
Also, how the hell is he "cucked" by a girl who he was never romantically involved with, who already left town for good several episodes prior and was explicitly stated they wouldnt see each other again for a long time, while he was in a coma?
That shit makes no sense- even HE moved on in the few days or weeks before the coma, he was just happy he saved her and gave her a happy life and a future.
This was never about getting laid, you do understand that right?
>literal cuck trying to act superior to anything
Okay, white knight.
Yeah, I wouldn't save her, even if she fucked me. Satoru is the ultimate white knight, literally going back in time to save some bitch who he didn't even know and a trap-boy so he can end up being a vegetable for more than a decade, wasting his own and his mom's life.
At least his based sexy mom is alive now, so that's a plus I guess. Now, go and be a podkabluchnik for some feminist slut.
>life isn't perfect
I'm sorry there was no sunset ending for you to selfinsert into.
Him getting a second chance was miracle enough. And although he is a retard and fucked up some things he didn't completely blow it.
>life isn't perfect
guess the guy who throughout the whole series forces himself to help everyone felt that 15 years of young girls getting murdered brutally wasn't enough of a reason to not try to fix it
>At least his based sexy mom is alive now
That was the point dumbass.
I'm not going to be a retard and pretend he didn't like Kayo but he was always trying to save everyone and mostly his mom.
so you want to get boned by a big burly man like me? Because you went out of your way to help explain this shit to me. If you didn't want sex in exchange for it, then there would be no point. Now bend over.
Why people keep forgetting his mom fucking died in the original timeline? Yeah Satoru is a big white knight (still not as big as Ultimate White Knight Kyon) but he don't entitle himself to any life he saves. He didn't saved people to get pussy. He did it because he felt is the right thing to do.
>You'll never have a homeroom teacher as caring as Yashiro
Stopping the killer wasn't the point (though it would have been nice obviously).
He wanted to save his mother, for obvious reasons, and save Kayo because after she died he felt like he could have helped her and that feeling stayed with him.
He's not a time travelling policeman, just an emotionally functional human being with some attachments to the people around him, who gets a shot at changing some things.
The author indeed. He just sort of cuts the plot off and ends it. Satoru CAN fix it but the author just prematurely wraps it up and felt this was good enough so it makes me feel like it wasn't really a victory since probably 30-40 more girls were murdered while he's trying to give the reader a shitty message about two of them.
>literal cuck trying to act superior to anything
Oh you don't even have to try as much when you're successful at life and damn handsome
You don't chase women
Women chase you. period
But of course such a simple thing won't get through your skull
Because you're that stupid
I haven't read past volume 6 yet, isn't she? She mentioned a sister and I saw a bunch of posts that showed her and Airi on the same page if I am not mistaken. She would be the perfect way to link Satoru with Airi in this timeline.
You wouldn't care either if a stranger died right now, anon, why do you lie? Caring because she was hot is better than not caring at all. It's no different from old women crying when they see dead children in the news or /b/tards crying at cat abuse. There's a reason why pretty white girls get the most attention anytime something happens to them, and that's because they trigger people's protective instincts the most.
>tfw none of my teachers abducted and murdered little girls and framed the local austistic fuck for it
If she's not my friend. If she's a complete stranger to me in every way, why would inrisk my life. Or, 15 years of my life, to make her happy?
Maybe it's a morbid mindset to have, but if the person was a complete stranger to me, I probably wouldn't risk life and limb for them.
Yes and Kayo was not a stranger to him.
We have this shitty biologically driven thing called empathy which makes us connect and want to protect other people.
Not you though, you lucked out and got to be a psychopath.
Yes, let's sacrifice 15 years of my own live for a girl I like only to wake up from my coma and see her having a child with my best friend, that sounds great!
I would not save anyone if it meant that I lost 15 whole years of my life.
He did a good job giving MC's waifu a regular oil change.
Several times throughout the series he goes out of his way to save people because he can. The murderer is another scenario that he should have had that mindset but he just sort of says "good enough". Sure he went back for his mother but once he finds out about the murderer he begins following around everyone who might be a target.
Fun thing is that none of that forms part of Satoru's motivation. He didn't even liked Kayo in the original timeline. She only stuck in his memory because he felt guilty about a death he thought he could have prevented, and the other was his mother's murder because, well, it's his mother, kind of self-explanatory. Everything else came after he already started to act on these two powerful motivators.
What the fuck did they seriously remove Airi from this scene? Gay end coming?
Nigga I don't know he just needs to go back again kind of wish the story explained how that shit worked but the author felt he needed to make it inconsistent as fuck. All I'm saying is the ending felt hollow as fuck because of the message the author tried to give over what it could have been.
I finally watched the episode last night and it is honestly the most disgusted I have ever been at a piece of material made for entertainment.
Not just because she cucked the shit out of him, but because the author had so many chances to make this show actually pretty good and just shit in our faces with it.
How can a cute trap turn out to be a backstabbing carnivore?
Because most people here are manipulative nice guys? They act nice, buy gifts, invite girls to places and they expect her to start dating them to kinda ´´pay back´´. They just self inserted and are mad now
It's not inconsistent because it's never explained.
But he is show to have no control over it.
Unless you think he made it happen after he was arrested. I'm pretty sure that was coincidence.
Do you guys just write this shit for the authors or something?
The killer did not stop. Someone else's life was probably ruined just like Satoru's past life because of his actions.
But it's OK because it was all about his mom?
Fuck that. It's stupid.
You should be surprised what some mother can and has endured for their offspring, anon. And yeah, Sachiko is an excepcional person, it was highlighted by several other characters. She's no pushover.
Butterfly effect. Who is to say all these people still were in peril in the new timeline? And between saving your mother and childhood friends or a handful of strangers most people would pick the first option.
We watched different shows I guess, because they dwelled on and hinted at the relationship between the two characters all throughout the entire show that I watched. Although I'll admit that we should have seen the coma coming since he is always put in danger when he uses his power to save others. I kind of forgot the fact that he was in danger then entire time since the series spent so.... long... building on the relationship between him and Kayo. For no reason, because, apparently, if you thought they were hinting that they would get together in the future based on the foreshadowing of the series, you are a 'beta whiteknight faggot'.
The whole thing was coincidence which is mostly due to how awful the author's writing skills are, but it COULD of been better. Instead we got a mediocre story with a bad ending that will make it fade away maybe two months from now.
I know I know, he sees him as his own hamster and shit but holy fuck was sensei this retarded before? I don't think so.
>angry cuck noises
well atleast they arent muffled anymore
we're making progress lads
how long till you stop denying the NTR that you've experienced? Cant stay delusional forever Tbh anon
Tell me what did I say wrong? Most people here are virgins who never had actual conversation with a girl so they just turn to beta orbiting. I can totally imagine some /a/utist stuttering when some girl says hi to him
This can cut both ways. Even more fucking people could now be dead, and that could have gigantic negative impacts. We don't know since
the author is a lazy shit and doesn't fill in this plot hole. So the whole thing can be sited as a plot hole.But the kind of things he saved them from like accidents, etc would probably still happen, only now he can't save them. Hence dozens are now dead.
>Saving your mother + Best buds or maybe a hundred or more people
So either the MC is a selfish asshole letting 100+ people just fucking die so he can resurrect 3-4 people close to him.
All in all, hack writing/10.
I was always sure the Airi end would happen because of cancer girls existence in episode 11. Now I am not sure about anything anymore.
I believe the anime will deliver us the true appropriate ending. Never give up, /a/.
>implying the coma did not give him kung-fu powers and his rehabilitation didn't miraculously speed up and he will throw the teacher off the roof.
More realistically though this is obviously a setup by Satoru to get the teacher to confess and catch him in the act with backup.
The NTR in charlotte was alot more subtle though
Most people on /a/,believe it or not,don't want to have a relationship with 3D pigs. So your entire post is wrong.
No, it could happen again.
But it could not.
It's shown he has no control over it.
You saying he should just do it again of his own will when he clearly fucking can't is retarded.
You want to talk retarded logic? Fine, let's talk retarded logic.
Why the fuck can this kid jump back in time?
A reversal is said to be a chance to save someone. He failed, so why did he get a second chance?
Why did he warp back to the point where he was an adult before?
Was it it "illogical" to think he can't jump back in time yet again?
Don't get me started.
Seriously, who the fuck does this?
>"Oh hey I know you're a murderer who's been hiding because of me for 15 years, so lets go to the rooftop where no one can see you murder me!"
Brilliant. He should have kept his mouth shut.
Kami-sama, please give us the ending we want.
>alone in the rooftop with the killer
>bound to wheelchair to make things worse
>decide to declare you have your memory back
I'm not sure if he has the biggest balls out of all Nihon or just a death wish. Maybe both, it's definitely a stupid move.
He lived his old life which he remembers.
What's the difference practically?
The only person to really get fucked is his mother but even she gets to live another 30+ years so It's probably better for her too.
>He lived his old life which he remembers
>What's the difference practically?
You're kidding right? None of that happened in the new timeline, it might aswell have been a dream he had in his coma.
Yeas but then it would be a generic time loop bullshit story.
With no fucking consequences.
I prefer this version where things are not perfect but because he tried he managed to achieve something.
Not everything has to have a fairy tale ending.
>everything post-reveal is incredibly stupid in the manga
>the anime made sure to take an even more stupid original route
Remember how excited we were after the first three episodes? Yeah.
Yes, Satoru's real self was always that of a crazy sociopath as well.
>One of the more interesting traits of Apistogramma cacatuoides is that of "sneaker" males. Due to the aggressive, territorial nature of the males, a submissive male will not develop the full "cockatoo" finnage nor the full male coloration. He will "pretend" to be a female and take any opportunities presented to mate with willing females. If the dominant male then dies, this submissive male will then develop the full finnage.
His fucking old life might as well have been a dream.
He lost all contact with his friends, had no gf and was basically living alone.
It might as well have all been a dream for all the difference it made.
The only real loss was Airi and his mom having to care for him for 15 years.
Other than that he is closer to his old friends than he was before.
If it were real life fair enough but this is a fucking story. It's bad writing to arbitrarily have two people marry who had no previous chemistry or development shown. Their entire relationship happens off-camera which is disgustingly lazy. At least if it were a random guy it would make sense but this is just retarded.
So if he expected him to wake up one day, why didn't he just burn his house down? His mother cared of him in his home and I assume that she wasn't constantly at home, since she had to make money as well. So why not just wait until she's out and then burn the house down and make it look like an accident, like she left the stove on or some shit?
Why wait for him to wake up and then try to kill him? Imagine how painful it must have been for the poor guy, he had to live in fear for fifteen years, wondering if the little shit is ever going to wake up.
It was just plot convenience in reality when you are nothing but a vegetable for 15 years even the best of friends will fade away since they will only remember you as a vegetable.
The anime staff fucked up. They should've toned down all the sensei is the killa clues and cast doubt over the dad of that "pedo" dude with some original content.
It would've added some weight to the chasing scene and eventual reveal.
Maybe he never travelled and that was just the chuuni wish of an unsuccessful mangaka.
Satoru was in a coma after he got hit by that car and imagined everything. Sensei was just the evil and successful second persona he created.
>And how the fuck did he not suspect the teacher?
they literally tell that sensei and satoru's mom were in the murderers lis and he trusted sensei so much he didn't suspect him
>NTR in charlotte
Would you believe I had totally forgotten about that? It's interesting how in both cases the fanboys will be strawmaning as hard as they can with that argument to defend their shitty show. I remember being called a shipper or a Naofag when I was calling out all the retarded shit and bad writing.
This faggot is really tricky. Played everyone like a damn fiddle.
I wouldn't have minded if she found love or anything in the meanwhile and not waited 16 years for him to snap out of his coma and jump on his dick because he saved her life, but why the fuck did it have to be Hiromi? Of all men on earth it had to be Hiromi...
It's not the fact Kayo didn't wait for him for 15 years, but the coma itself.
How do you even get into a coma for 15 years from drowning? Why couldn't they use something else other than a coma to progress the story?
I wonder why he lost contact with Kenya in the original timeline. The author overlooked it, trap death made everyone go different ways or they didn't share a strong enough bond without the vigilante hours?
/pol/ managed to convince Hiro that the term cuck is very important term in modern Western political discussions since a news reporter used the term "cuckservative" on television once, so filtering the term is tantamount to suppressing free speech.
Will Satoru jump back again to prevent the
Partly the death thing but also he just wasn't as close to them in the original timeline.
They hung out but that was it.
Them bonding over saving Kayo was much more memorable.
I wonder how many more kids sensei killed in those 15 years.
Do recovering coma patients really open their eyes randomly while still being unconscious?
Does he even have one? He never killed for fun in this timeline, aside from his brother maybe but even that case is different from the loli kills he commited in the first version.
Wait, so all former revivals were useless now due to the coma, aren't they?
The little kid was killed by the truck in this time because there was no Satoru there to prevent it. Same with all the other people he saved, like the boy who fell from that house.
Why was this more painful than Inaho getting cucked by Asseylum?
Satoru should go back in time one more time and shoot Lt. Colonel Stanislav Petrov in the head.
People of our time are too desperate for romance. Every fucking Hollywood movie has now a idealised romance subplot, even though it might be utterly pointless to the story and character growth. You see people ,,shipping" characters that have nothing in common spare from some little interaction, because they are that desperate to see romance. I think peolpe appreciated more each other back in the day because they knew romance is a really shallow thing. And it actually is. If you care so much for shipping wars and what not, reminder that you are emotionally the same as a 14 year old teenage girl.
I didn't notice those spider webs at first, only with the second watch.
By now I actually care more about Killer-kun and Sachiko than the rest of the characters to be honest.
If you aren't going to put romance in don't stick romance flags in every episode. That was the fucking problem. You fucking idiots act like this shit wasn't hinted at all throughout the series.
I think that's open. He could've killed some people. I mean if he had any self control he wouldn't be keeping an eye on Satoru for all this time. What is he even afraid of? Being charged with attempt murder? How long does it take to prescribe there? Everyone is alive so in this timeline he might as well have done nothing wrong.
Satoru wanted to be a superhero, so he decided to go into a frozen lake and become Captain America.
Except he isn't American, and he's too much of an idiot to become a Captain.
Except the author baited an audience with a romance "sub-plot" - a sub-plot that lasted for more than 3/4s of the story.
You wholly can't blame people to put on the shipping goggles, because the author deliberately put romance flags in.
If this show was about the Mom and the "so-called" mystery, then it should've focused on that. At this point, it's not anyone's fault but the shitty writing.
>ok but he can still save the little kid.
>there's a chance that the little kid might not even be born, he fucked with the timeline pretty bad.
Are you retarded? That's even a worse outcome.
Best ending would be if MC went back in time to fuck Kayo, like in pic related
Name a better MC than Kazuya You literally cant
Are you going to tell me all the people he said he saved with his revivals weren't born in this timeline? The author simply didn't think this through or doesn't give a shit.
She was better dead.
In the manga he goes back into a coma, and the rehabilitation takes a long and undetermined amount of time. All we know is that he is older in the final chapter than he was at the beginning, and that one was his last revival. So yes, those people are dead.
And as it was mentioned already, there's no asspull butterfly effect here. If his friends have the same school memories after the incident in both timelines (meaning the were still friends after Hiromi died), there's no reason to think that everyone else will be safe now.
I'm just saying that the "he can't rewind so all those people are dead" thing doesn't matter since the past changed so much, they might not even exist anymore or they might not need to be saved anymore.
>go to that road at the same exact day
assuming he still has memories of the future
Satoru become mad cause got cucked by Kayo..then got back in the time just before he drown in car..he kill the teacher..then he fucked Kayo and Hiromi..both of them become Satoru's bitches
he is most likely going to go get the same job he got before and will likely get the same addresses and such. Fucking with the timeline like he did changes very little in the grand scheme of things and probably won't affect anyone outside the closest families.
All he has to do is go get a job at the exact same place and do the deliveries again. And he'll meet the kid on his delivery in 2006. Unless one of the kids he saved when he changed the timeline went to the exact same pizza delivery place and stole his job.
overall, he has changed the world to little for anyone outside the immediate families and friends to notice. Now he has a tragic backstory to tell to Airi though
Why do you guys automatically assume Satoru and Kayo liked each other? Sure, Satoru went back in time to save his mom, which in turn meant saving Kayo, but that doesn't automatically make Satoru like Kayo. And just because Satoru saved Kayo doesn't automatically mean she likes him, either. There is literally nothing in the show that points to them having romantic feelings for each other.
>there's no asspull butterfly effect here
>no butterfly effect
that would be a missed opportunity considering how the rewinds worked
>meaning the were still friends after Hiromi died
pretty sure he didn't mention them even once before the revival back to school, and even then, he didn't recognize them at first, which might be because of bad memory, or just because he hadn't seen them since then
>he is most likely going to go get the same job he got before and will likely get the same addresses and such
He didn't, he became a successful mangaka in the end and only met Airi for the first time when he was in his 30s.
No, you fuck. It all started because he wanted to stop the killer and save his mom. The same mom that spent the last 15 years making sure he could have a functional body after getting out of coma, she is worth more than countless background characters.
>There is literally nothing in the show that points to them having romantic feelings for each other.
Anon, you should atleast watch the show before joining in on the shitposting/discussion