Katia might be my favorite, but I have to admit that Lise is pretty cute too~
Wrong as always, anon.
Which couple deserves to "save in the name of Tru Luv?"
Who /NVA/ here?
Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is the best fit for current events, comrades.
Also, commissar Gretel just got the Puhdy's last album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw [Embed]
PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit
3. Practicality — A serious threat
“The main weakness that presently stands in the way of the ideological strengthening
and development of Katja is practicality, the underestimation of Katjaist-Theoist theory,
which is the most important tool of a party of the Katja type.”
Numerous functionaries in the party, the mass organizations, government and commerce have
not yet studied at a party school and neglect independent study. Some excuse themselves with
the claim that they have no time, failing to see that they cannot adequately fulfill their tasks to
Katja if they do not constantly learn and improve by studying Katjaist-Theoism.
By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.
Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik
If I'd left multiple options up, everyone would have ticked every option on there and it wouldn't of been much of a poll.
not today western diaspora
I still find it hilarious Takeru and Kira are voiced by the same guy. Both of them are the Jesus of their series.
I want Lise to become something like the main antagonist of Jeepers Creepers, only instead of coming back from the dead because it ate too many hearts for its own to stop beating, Lise won't be able to die because she sucked too many cocks.
>she sucked too many cocks.
She did more than that
Katia and Lise complement each other perfectly for an imouto double team. You have the innocent sub who wants desperately to please everyone around her, and you have the experienced switch who desperately wants everyone to like her. They play off each other perfectly. I'd say they're yin and yang like the picture except Lise isn't a true dom, she was simply handed that role. In some ways, that's an even better combo for the imouto combination.
It hurts, it really does.
Maybe in Beato route in the VN?
This hurts too!
There's really too many too many. And yet, none make it. THIS HURTS AS WELL.
I just wanted to be comfy dammit...
I know that. May as well be none, considering one is shit, and one is cute but just doesn't give me the same depth of feels.
And of course, depression because no OTP for Anette.
I'll always have a place in my heart
and dickfor semen demons.
Jesus does anyone have worse fate than her in ML universe? Theo was her last line of sanity, the only good thing left in her eyes and he execute her in the face
That's cuz Japs can read moonrunes much better than we can, sadly - and that's a lot of the key to understanding the characterization. That, and most of the Western audience only knows of the anime, and some disgusting individuals will ONLY regard the anime and refuse evidence to the contrary.
I'm not sure which is more retarded, the anime's fanbase, or the anime websites which 'review' this butchery.
Through sheer good karma acquired by headpatting.
Especially consider he knows Beato.
ML is sadly, at least one part of it is, the suffering, especially the suffering that happens to good people.
Basically, if you want your good ending, you have to walk over acidic glass to get it.
Then again, saving in the name of true love was never easy.
Nah, okay, fine I'll admit she's cute at times. I just don't see the same that her fans do. That, and Gretelfags (along with Katiafags, sadly) are usually the biggest shitters on everyone else. They also refuse to remember that in much of the LN and will be so in the VN, she's extremely annoying at the best of times, downright hostile at worst, and rehash memes like Ground Gretel to cover up for the fact that not only is she also a threat to the 666th, but incompetent at anything besides legalisms.
She gets better at least.
I can't wait for the doujins.
RIP in piece best girl Pham. Fucking hell I'm still mad.
Don't be mad brother. Pham-nee wouldn't want you to hate in her sake.
Of course. But really, the easier way to bully her is to get her to open up her utter dere side. From there, she'll be constantly spilling spaghetti, it will be glorious. If she gets too sniffly, headpats will restore her morale.
Lise's route will be the best one in the VN, mark my words.
-10000 for no spetnaz, VDV, and the glorious red army.
Well, I'm worried about where they would take such a direction. That said, it can't possibly be worse than the anime's take.
Stasi Theo could branch off into both a Beato and Lise path, besides having a separate Lise path
Even if they are they won't sound anything like in MLA. If you played AF you'd know that many of them were terribly off there. And AF was released just a year or two after MLA.
why are other girls so shit compared to best girl?
>Wanting to pilot a fatass
Real gentlemen pilot Raptors.
>cant even save anyone without everything dyig
>You will never experience Muv-Luv Alternative for the first time ever again
Why would you want to endure all that suffering again?
You will never experience anything Muv-Luv related completely blind either as long as you keep coming here.
>you will never feel that overly happy tone of extra as you think what the fuck is this
>you will never have the big wat when the twist of being transported happen
>you will never feel bad again because of the ending
>you will never wish again that you want the extra verse back
>tfw you will never experience the gaping pain as everything in alternatives stabs you in the heart
>you will never feel that joy again when you make it to the final extra epilogue
i know this feeling
They could have put that instead of this when she said that she was Axmann's dog.
Why not? Seems like if I were her target or some obstacle in the way, she'd just have me obliterated some time earlier.
Otherwise she seems like she'd be pretty entertaining company.
On the other hand, haven't seen anime Beatrix.
Jungen was in love with ketchup.
Jurgen is his fukboi, ass and all.
>Axmann's new fuccboi suspiciously looks like Jurgen
Is Axmann gay?
It was another quiet afternoon in Lise's room at the insane asylum. Her treatment program made enough progress that her brother no longer felt as if there was a stranger living in Lise's body. Theo, Lise, and Ursula quickly decided to do what any reasonable family would.
Theo now sat on a sofa pulling himself as he watched Lise work her stasi magic on his wife. Ursula knew that this was a ploy by her sister-in-law to keep her from interfering later, and was determined to do something about it. She clenched her legs, trapping the other woman's head, and flipped over so that she was kneeling on Lise's face. Lise's medication caused greatly reduced strength and coordination, so Ursula was able to overpower her rather easily.
After giving birth for the first time, Ursula began to experience clitoral erections and it became even more frequent after each child. She rocked her hips as she ground her stiff little bit into Lise's mouth. Theo could no longer contain himself. He strode over to the two girls, and climbed onto the bed. He began thrusting into his sister, subconsciously timing himself with the gyrations of his wife's hips. Lise squealed in delight, muffled though she was by Ursula's, well, muff.
Using a sort of lovers' ESP, Theo and Ursula managed to synchronize their orgasms perfectly, despite not actually giving them to one another. Theo suddenly noticed Lise tapping frantically on Ursula's leg. Ursula lifted herself off and Lise coughed, “Jeez, Katia, you've had too many kids if you can't even control your bladder anymore!”
Ursula and Theo glanced at one another nervously. Urine aside, Lise had touched on a subject that they previously strove to avoid. It was not long ago that mere mention of Ursula's pregnancies would cause fits of violent range. Even recently, it was enough to cause panic attacks. Now, it was a lighthearted joke.
Later, as Theo and Ursula stepped out of the room, Theo put his lips to Ursula's ear.
“She's pregnant, isn't she...”
yep. Axmann is gay.
Axmann loves young blond boys
*side-characterfags* - *irisfags*
Fuck off back to >>>/MAL/ or >>>/AnimeSuki/
10 episodes = 03h 20m 00s / Iris in 10 episodes - screentime: 00h 06m 39s
Gretel has more development, internal conflicts, more scenes in visual novel, and more screentime in the anime, than Iris and this is a fact.
Well TSFs do carry small radar (as well as IFF systems, you can see the former working in TE, latter especially in SM), as well as the traditional route of being helped with ground radar and AWACS. Even from the beginning, TSFs have had in mind a secondary focus against other TSFs. It's partly why an arms race is going on. SAMs are still researched too.
The 2nd-generation TSFs were one of the components that really started turning the war around for the world powers. 3rd Generation is in one part an attempt to not rest on laurels, and leapfrog ahead. Another is that America is so confident of victory against the BETA that they're looking ahead to the soon recovery of some nations, and defeat of the BETA within a few decades max. The 3rd-gen TSFs are an attempt to prepare for that day.
The only relation Sandek has with Yui is with their matchmaker, GUN.
>showing Lise definitely did not enjoy baby smashing
Think more correctly, like Wantanabe-san.
Fuck off Jonah!
They have a sad tendency to die ;_;
Irisdina is a stereotype: ''kuudere robotics ''.
Iris's plot convenience is completely retarded and ridiculous - Anime, Visual Novel and light novel are constantly trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat, using other characters as Irisdina fanboys. The most ridiculous and absurd is that at all times throughout at all history, they constantly use one of the characters to trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat,
Snow White's plot armor - Irisdina is kidnapped and becomes a damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (Theodor) to achieve her rescue
Irisdina is also the fanservice character of the Light novel and promotional materials.
Gretel is a stereotype: "annoying class president".
Gretel's party loyalty is completely retarded and ridiculous - Anime, Visual Novel and light novel are constantly trying to shove how annoying, bitchy and shit Gretel is down your throat. Her moto is no fun allowed.
Snow White's plot armor - Gretel is shot and left to die in a burning building and becomes damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (Martin) to achieve her rescue
Gretel isn't the fanservice character because there literally isn't anything attractive about her basically meaning shes a shit.
This attempt at divide and conquer is just as retarded as your daytime/nighttime SM prattle you pushed a little while ago. There are Katiafags and Beatofags on at all hours of the day.
Go to hell.
>this analravaged irisfag
She is a commissar of course that she is going to be MUH PARTY, it's her job description
Unlike Theo Martin did save his waifu
Jokes on you I find her very atractive
>quickly decided to do what any reasonable family would
>muffled though she was by Ursula's, well, muff.
It's perfect I tell you!
>she is canonically the biggest turd
Why did they completely take away anything romantic that this person had with Theo?
He needs to, dude's suffered a lot.
Well Beato bury his face in her boobs in her route?
>that's why anime is so shit compared to source material. weak characters are getting more screen time than complex interesting ones.
Beatrix and Iris live with their false images created by psdeudos readers Light novel, which are retarded waifufags obsessed by 2d waifushits who helped overrate and overvalue these two generic and stereotyped characters.
Iris and Beatrix are characters: - generic / - a plot device to develop and motivates the MC / - MC's love interest / - becomes a damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (MC) to achieve her rescue. (Irisdina) / - no development / - stereotype / - with Very little screentime / - poorly written / - kirito-tatsuya's plot convenience / - shit personality /- no internal struggle / - one-dimensional / - no inner conflicts / - no POV / - without inner monologues / - shallow / - bland / - no depth.
Their quality comes down to things futile as: - fanservice material / - beautiful / - sexy / - Physically attractive.
In 90% of current shows, Generic Harem Heroine are overrate and overvalue by retarded waifufags who are mentally ill people who are obsessed by 2D women.
I kinda feel bad for Gretelfags.
But then again, the most prolific Gretelfag posters are a spic and /k/ancer, none of which make constructive posts by any stretch of the term, so I can't really cry too much for them. Birds of a feather...
<<To all TSFs: We're going to take back Berlin today!>>
You'll get a Lise route with a good and true ending, and plenty of bad ends because let's be honest, it's the easiest route to fuck up.
Most of them either ends up with someone, even Katia dying and some end up with Stasi Theo.
There should be. Like there should be a Kiirke, Pham, and Anette route.
Wrong guy, asshole.
Well to be honest, there could be two different Lise stories, one where she does abandon the Stasi, and one where Theo goes or is forced to go Stasi.
Not really, Katia is cute but can't stand on her own as a character like Lise and Iris, also she's already part of your group from the start while Lise's route you'll have to fight both the Stasi and the 666 if you want to save her.
I have no idea how you think that dealing with the paranoid power-grabber that Schmidt is, while protecting Katia and helping her fulfill her wish of a unified Germany and avenging her family, won't be intense as all hell. Especially if Theo ends up having to command the rebellion himself and goes full Master, like another poster speculated earlier.
>Katia is cute but can't stand on her own as a character like Lise and Iris
What is this stupid meme people insist on pushing? People seem to confuse the fact she's not quite as complex as Lise and Iris with 'she can't stand on her own as a character'. She can stand perfectly fine. Another fun piece of foreshadowing people ignore is that Lise and Iris both had the most pivotal moments of their characterization start when they were 15, the same age Katia is now. The events of SM -are- part of her story and her growth, and I'd say she's just fine.
>Lise's route you'll have to fight both the Stasi and the 666 if you want to save her.
Nah. Lise will stay with the Stasi and Theo joins her, so we get stuff on the Werewolves and more Beatrix.
German unification means direct fucking conflict with Schmidt, it`s you or him. Imagine having to get a whole of 666 on your side with a varierty of means to even stand a chance.
And then there is Moscow which will be hardly pleased when DDR walks.
Theo, and Theo alone, knows Katia's true identity, which is the entire reason Pham got fucked up so badly in the first place. If Theo joins the Stasi and blabs everything to Beato, then Pham won't need to be tortured. Maybe detained at most. Beatrix would keep Katia around as a valuable political hostage who's practically as good as Iris herself, especially as an endorsement to help Beato's image as a hero of the DDR.
Plus, Katia is the deuteragonist, so she'll probably be okay in routes outside of her own where she'll need to die for drama and help complete Theo's character arc.
Schmidt loves nukes, I wouldn't be surprised if he whipped out a prototype Spirit-Voz.
They had those in 1983, right?
Martin's a fanwank/fanfic created by a anon of 2ch.
Schmidt is with Moscow faction, maybe he could beg them for one to help him try to subjugate The Master if Beato dies/decides that Katia has a point and gives up her life of crime.
>Martin's a fanwank/fanfic created by a anon of 2ch.
Eduardo Martin III
I think it was more than just one boot.
stop falseflaging we know that you are the buttdevastated irisfag
stop AniemeSukiBoy we know that you are the Ctrl C+Ctrl V AnimeSuki.
>Wanna know how many Stasi dicks I've sucked?
i'm trying to cleanup this image. need a second pair of eyes what do you guys think?
that's an easy fix... was more interested in the white highlight on beato thigh and the line on iris stomach because i drew them manually. any opinion on that?
i don't plan to.
>Theo, and Theo alone, knows Katia's true identity
Iris knows. Walter and Pham might know too.
Seriously, I get hard at the thought of BiS Ursula and Beatrix sucking my cock at the same time. I hope we get at least one CG of them together to help me masturbate.
>Annett is so unimportant not even the Stasi cares about her
Fuck off back to >>>/MAL/ or >>>/AnimeSuki/
samefag - stupid irisfag
go to hell with his side character
Aw, are you sure onii-chan~? I don't mind telling if it's for you.
Don't worry Lise-chan, i provided to recapitate all your STASI file to your onii-chan.
Can't say I don't find the thought particularly arousing.
What would that Lise do to shota Onii-chan?
That shit ain't party approved, comrade.
Which bosom is more reconforting
Iris, phams or katias ?
Gretel is too flat for that.
It'd be pretty interesting, actually, because I don't think Masterdor would necessarily agree with Iris's vision or Katia's idealism. He'd probably be a bigger fan of Beatrix's plans and pragmatism, but he hates her more than even Axmann (if this is the LN) so he would never work with her.
Fun fact: It's not the breast meat that comforts you when you shove your face in someone's chest, it's the rhythmic sound of the heartbeat.
Doesn't mean the meat doesn't help or feel nice
Which means that when you hug Gretel, your closer to her heart.
Of course she does.
She gave it to Martin, though
I know Lise is best imouto but don't be throwing shade.
How many reports have you sent in total I need to know.
Iris is nee-san
Theo is just a siscon.
>finger her until she's too horny
>then deny her the dick
Bro, you're evil as fuck.
>Thinking she won't take it by force.
Probably. But, just think what she would to you!
>Sylwia finds out
>finds you and beats the shit out of you
>totally dominates you and makes you her bitch
>forces you to lick her boots and apologize while on your knees
>you become her masochistic punching bag
Totally worth it!
I want Katia to do S things to me, with me thinking she's too innocent for that, and realizing only when I've been screaming for her to have mercy on me for well over an hour with her whipping me and forcing me to lick her boots that she's actually a very competent and capable sadist who enjoys the look on my face.
>tfw you'll never get punched in the groin by Sylwia
>tfw you'll never get beat up and humiliated by Sylwia in front of the whole squad
Sounds like fun, she can ball crush me any time, senpai.
Katia is too pure, desu.
God-tier taste, I gotta say.
No, she'd be shaking like a leaf because it was so exciting for her and it was the first time she got to really be an S.
Then she rides me cowgirl until I'm passed out, and even then she forcefeeds me viagra so I have to keep going until my balls are completely and totally drained like that one Russian burglar.
Here's the last transparent chibi Lise I made from the CGs. Have fun.
Most of them drink accept Katia, but Lise is the only one I've seen really putting it down.
Meant to include Ketchup in there too. So embarrassing.
>knuckles not facing forward
>thumb sticking out and not joined with the rest of her hand
>end of her hand not lined up with her right eyebrow
That shit is all kinds of fucked up. Hot garbage. I can tell you never served if you think that's a good salute.
You gotta wash away the fatigue of killing BETA and trying not to piss off some Stasi every day.
Also memories of being used as a meat toilet and killing infants for your superiors amusement are only rewritable by Onii-chan's dick or getting shitfaced, momentarily.
>abuses her subordinates
>only happy when she's getting to kill, torture, bully, belittle, or otherwise abuse stuff
>shown to care for his direct subordinates like fuccboi-kun, doesn't really care for the NVA
>looks like a total bro looking out for Theo by warning him about Lise because the phone conversation was cut
Why the fuck is this director such a goddamn misogynist?
>why is everyone a drunkard in SM?
Because everything is fucked.
>they live under communism
>their country is divided
>unstoppable aliens invading
>half of the earth is already fucked
>family and relatives are food for the BETA
>being purged and spied on by organizations like the Stasi
That's more than enough reasons to get drunk.
>They removed Axmann's GUN.
>They removed how he rules over his subordinates with fear.
>They removed his "Brown Beast" moniker.
>They removed the implications that he wanted to break Katia like Lise.
>They swapped some of his traits with Beatrix and vice versa.
What does Watanabe have against hot chicks? Mitsuki got turned into a bitch in the anime too.