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Will it be good?

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The Rebuilds have been, amongst many other things, divisive. Personally, I enjoy them. I consider them stand alone and thus I can put up with the lack of characterization etc

But my own personal opinion on 1.11, 2.22 & 3.33, I ask you. Will 3.0+1.0 be good?
I think it will be very good, if Anno pulls his head out of his arse.
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>>138701414
I'd say 50/50
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>>138701414
>if Anno pulls his head out of his arse
Good luck with that.
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After the shitshow that was 3.0 I have zero expectations.
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If Anno is half the troll he thinks he is this movie is going to be the end of EVA shipping. This movie will create literially ten times the salt of Naruto.
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>>138701629
I almost want this to happen
>shinji ends up with a new character instead of any of the originals
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>>138701717
Japan doesn't give a shit about Shinji. The real trolling would be following Iku-chan's advice and ending it with Rei pregnant with a new character's child
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>>138701544
Can't get worse than 3.0
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>>138701717
I like this idea. It would finally cement the rebuilds as a separate show and not a shitty remake of NGE, which most anon's can't seem to understand.
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>>138701629
Anno is master troll
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>>138702112
He's a creative/thieving fucker too
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>>138702226
I'm not lighting that fuse anon
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So long as we get to see all the stuff in the 2.22 after credits preview, I'll be happy. I'm more curious about the time skip than anything else.
I'm literally going to sit down and re-watch the rebuilds and take my own notes, old /a/ style.
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rebuild movies are shit and not canon
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>4.0
>All previews point to another generic remake
>Actual movie comes out
>It's a live-action version of EoE
>"Crumblin' Down" by John Mellencamp during 3rd impact/tang scene
>Instrumentality actually succeeds as a twist
>Everyone goes to be with their waifus in paradise
>Original live action scenes are now drawn
>Mfw
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>>138702692
>rebuild movies are shit
Opinion.
>and not canon
Stupid opinion. They are canon in their own continuity, you spud.
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>>138702854
>"Crumblin' Down" by John Mellencamp during 3rd impact/tang scene
Sassy bitch
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>>138702854
The funny thing is I legitimately wouldn't be surprised if this actually happened
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>>138702854
100% legit
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>>138701414
>Will 3.0+1.0 be good?
If Anno pulls his head out of his arse, which isn't going to happen.

>Personally, I enjoy them. I consider them stand alone and thus I can put up with the lack of characterization etc
So you're admitting to dumbing yourself down, then?
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>>138702875
>>rebuild movies are shit
>Opinion.
>>and not canon
>Stupid opinion. They are canon in their own continuity, you spud.

Opinion.
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As long as there's more Eva on Eva action, they explain the failures of fagotry and shinji keeps suffering for the lulz I'll enjoy it.
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>>138701544
This pretty much.
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>>138703079
>So you're admitting to dumbing yourself down, then?

There's a difference in putting up with something and preferring it. I put up with the Rebuilds, but I prefer NGE.

To put it in another context, I put up with vanilla ice cream, but I would prefer to have vanilla with crushed nuts and honey.
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>>138702854
Poster here. Forgot the best part:

It will be titled: "I must (not) run away"
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>>138701414
Well 3.0 was utter shit and 1.0 was just an HD remaster of stuff from the original series, so 3.0+1.0 will be episode 25 and 26 of the original series in HD with a bunch of stupid bullshit thrown in.

I don't think it will be good but it could be depending on what brand of insanity Anno decides to inject into it.
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>>138703116
>rebuild movies are shit
>Opinion.

Yeah, that's an opinion.

>and not canon
>Stupid opinion. They are canon in their own continuity, you spud.

That's objectively not an opinion. NGE is canon for NGE. Sada-manga is canon for Sada-manga.
Rebuild is canon for Rebuild.
You cannot, however, cross the streams. That's when shit gets non-canon.
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>mfw rebuilds are praised as anime masterpieces 10 years from now
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Best orgy, no Shinji's allowed. This should be the final scene in 3.0+1.0.
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>>138703287
>Yeah, that's an opinion.
Opinion.

>That's objectively not an opinion. NGE is canon for NGE. Sada-manga is canon for Sada-manga.
>Rebuild is canon for Rebuild.
>You cannot, however, cross the streams. That's when shit gets non-canon.
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3.33 was a fucking wank to captain yamato and nadia. That made me feel kimochi warui as fuck anon, Eva doesnt need that shit because it feels out of fucking place.
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Does it even have a target year for the release? Wondering if we're going to be stuck until 2020.
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>>138703221
A better analogy would be that you're putting up with eating shit, while you'd prefer ice cream with crushed nuts and honey.
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>>138704663
3.0+1.0 You Will (never) See It.
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>>138704685
Some people have a stronger tolerance for shit though anon
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>>138704642
>That made me feel kimochi warui as fuck anon
There are actual people on /a/ that type like this.
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>>138704748
Which we call having a taste for shit, or rather "shit taste".

It's not like I think all of Rebuild is bad you know, it had potential at one point but with 3.33....
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""no"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>138701760
If the waifus end marrying diferent men, the otakus would commit mass suicide across Japan

>Anno's final solution to save anime
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Worrying about a release date it's silly. Anon has admitted that he is an amateur cause amateurs do wathever the fuck they want or what they feel like doing.
No sense of being a pro, so at this point you are at his mercy anon.
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>>138704799
Higher tolerance =/= enjoy the taste.
But moving on from semantics, I've got a legit question for you.
Regardless of your personal opinion on the rebuilds, do you think 3.33 would have been better received if it was the 4th movie in a 5 movie long series?
Meaning: 1.11 - 2.22 - Time Gap Movie - 3.0+1.0 - 5.0
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>>138704887
This is the most retarded post ITT.
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>>138704873
>Anno's final solution
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>>138701717
I think he is going to end up wtih Asuka because - even tought it has been very lacking - they are the ones that have most when it comes to something considering rebuild's standards.
Also cause of the fairy tale, happy prince shit going on in there. This I dont mind, I like them both but I just hope that they keep it nice and not cheesy. That would be gross.
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>>138704932
>Higher tolerance =/= enjoy the taste.
He/OP said he enjoys them, or rather, enjoys shit.

>Regardless of your personal opinion on the rebuilds, do you think 3.33 would have been better received if it was the 4th movie in a 5 movie long series?
No, it'd be received worse since it'd lose the "OMG SO DRASTIC EPICE TROLE XD" appeal.
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>>138704973
They have the least. Fuck off cancershipper.
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>>138703985
You should just fucking kill yourself.
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>>138704979
>No, it'd be received worse since it'd lose the "OMG SO DRASTIC EPICE TROLE XD" appeal.

Well that's a bit of a silly answer. It only had the "OMG SO DRASTIC EPICE TROLE XD" appeal." because it was a drastic shift.
If the time gap movie happened, then it wouldn't have been a drastic shift. So, would it have been better received?
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>>138705066
I brought this for you <3
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>>138703985
Go away, Khara
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>>138705066
>>138705143
Here we go again
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>>138705107
>Well that's a bit of a silly answer. It only had the "OMG SO DRASTIC EPICE TROLE XD" appeal." because it was a drastic shift.
That's a silly answer if anything.

>If the time gap movie happened, then it wouldn't have been a drastic shift. So, would it have been better received?
It'd be worse received because then idiots wouldn't go "omg so epic trole anno is master xD". It's a shit movie through and through.
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>>138704706
That's exactly Anno's plans for the movie. A experience so good you can't even experience it.
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>>138705358
>That's a silly answer if anything.
How so?

>>138705358
>It'd be worse received because then idiots wouldn't go "omg so epic trole anno is master xD". It's a shit movie through and through.
You're still not answering me though. Do you understand what I mean?
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>>138701414
no 3.0 was a mess
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>>138705015
>>138705066
Is that you bile poster?
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>>138705435
Just call it 3.33, speshul snoflaek
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>>138701414

I believe the more important question is "Will it ever come out or be stuck as vaporware" then we can ask if it will be good but most likely it won't
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>>138704794
>Don't make Eva references in an Eva thread!
Your AT Field is totally out of whack.
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Wasn't it supposed to come out dec 31? What happened to that? Is there even a release date now?
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>>138705143
Die.
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>>138705624

Anno was too busy directing the new Godzilla movie and decorating trains
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>>138705417
>How so
Are you even serious, or are you just pretending to be retarded now?

It's self-evident that they think it was drastic because well - the movie was drastic! Are you fucking stupid or something?

>You're still not answering me though. Do you understand what I mean?
You don't understand what you mean, and you haven't replied with anything sensible whatsoever. Let's recap so your dumb ass gets it:

The movie has a certain kind of memetic appeal which shields it from criticism and distaste, because Anno has an image of being a troll. Therefore, a drastic shift plays into that "old man troll mythos" which means fans can religiously praise Anno, regardless of how bad the movie is.

They can find genius in the fact that it's a drastic or poor film (both even), because it would be a "troll".

Removing the drastic shift would take away it's only shield from criticism besides the obnoxious pandering to waifufags and husbandofags.

>>138705624
No, there has never been any release dates with any credibility. Idiot 3.0-fans want to do damage control, so they invent bullshit about how it'll "release soon and explain everything".

The facts are that there is no release date and the movie is effectively on indefinite hold. At best you'll see it in 2017 some time.
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>>138705699
That's not even close to what I meant. Not at all.
But hey, if you're going to act like the bileposter, the reiposter, filenames-kun and all the other assholes on here, I'm not going to try and put my questions to you in a more coherent way. Sorry you misunderstood me, sorry you have to call people names to.
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>>138705647
But I like it here.
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>>138705837
Ever considered that you're the asshole here, since you've apparently made enemies of everyone here?
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>>138705837
That's not what YOU meant? I'm explaining to you what I meant for gods sake.

You know what, fuck you.

You're clearly too ignorant and too unintelligent to hold any form of decent conversation about the subject.
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>>138701414
Anno knows everyone hated the last movie, I'm guessing that's why the next one is taking so long.
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>>138705896
For what its worth, I'm typically quite well liked by the anon's on here that aren't easily upset and are willing to converse, rather than only see their own side of a conversation.
I'm the guy that started the AaA threads, we have fun
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>>138705943
Actually, I just misunderstood you.
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>>138705969
This is rich coming from someone who only sees their side of the conversation.

Fuck off to whatever shit threads you hang out in besides this one, if you can't hold a decent conversation then you don't belong.
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>>138705969
HEY! When will there be more anon?!
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>>138706058
No fucking shit, which is why I said you were retarded.
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>>138706108
You've got the Ramiel one? Beside that, I'll be throwing up more soon enough, within the week for sure.
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>>138706160
Which is why I said, "But hey, if you're going to act like the bileposter, the reiposter, filenames-kun and all the other assholes on here, I'm not going to try and put my questions to you in a more coherent way. Sorry you misunderstood me, sorry you have to call people names to."

It costs nothing to be a decent person and talk about things without being angry and resorting to name calling like a child.
I was wrong and I misunderstood you. Calm yourself.
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>>138706176
Yeah I've got that one too. Looking forward to seeing more anon, Angels are Assholes threads were a blast
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This thread went downhill, fast.
FUCK PINK HAIRED PUFFY LIPS GIRL!
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>>138706233
You're not being a decent person when you throw shit back at others in the thread, that shit being utter stupidity because you won't even show any anon the respect of reading their posts from start to end.

You fucked up, and if you get slapped for it, you deserve it. That's how it works.

Grow a thicker skin, accept your failures and try to build on instead of pretending you're in any way superior, and not just a detrimental part of this thread.

This entire exchange could be avoided if not for your rash stupidity and tendency to blame others than yourself.

So if you finally understand, then take some time to consider just how bad 3.33 is.
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>>138705143
>>138705881
Which doujin are these from?
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>>138706374
I didn't throw shit back.

>You fucked up, and if you get slapped for it, you deserve it. That's how it works.
Says you.

>Grow a thicker skin
I've got one, but that doesn't mean we can't be civil.

>accept your failures and try to build on instead of pretending you're in any way superior, and not just a detrimental part of this thread.
I did, and I acknowledged it, I'm not trying to be superior, I'm just saying it's harmless to be nice.

>This entire exchange could be avoided if not for your rash stupidity and tendency to blame others than yourself.
Misunderstanding doesn't equate to stupidity, and I didn't blame you for anything.

I still hold that 3.33 is bad primarily because of the time gap.
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>>138701414
I personally think that Anno will just fuck us all over and remake the original anime ending, "baloonie-poonie" and all.
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>>138706599
Re-take my good anon! The best non-canon, story driven, feels heavy, hentai (optional sfw version is available) doujin that you can ever hope to see.
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>>138706607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR2v3E1Zwq8
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>>138706658
>No one has yet to call out this blatant spoonfeeding of a newfag
I wish these threads just stopped existing altogether. Kill yourself.
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>>138706658
Re-take is garbage, I'm afraid.
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>>138706604
Throwing your dumb replies back at people is the same as throwing ship. Step up your game or get the fuck out.

If you want to be civil, then don't act like a retard.

>I still hold that 3.33 is bad primarily because of the time gap.
You don't hold anything I'm afraid. The time gap is not what makes 3.33 bad, as a time-gap is a plot device that can be used in various ways, it's what 3.33 did using the timegap that is the problem.

As it stands, 3.33 is garbage for it's poor plot, characterization and story alone.
The specifics and reasoning behind them is what makes 3.33 utterly irredeemable for anyone but retards and hateful bileposters.
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>>138706829
>spoonfeeding of a newfag
Just call it spreading the love :D

>>138706835
But I like it, and so do lots of other folks!
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>>138706861
>Throwing your dumb replies back at people is the same as throwing ship. Step up your game or get the fuck out.
It's literally not. We both know that.


>If you want to be civil, then don't act like a retard.
I'm trying to be civil. You're not.

>it's what 3.33 did using the timegap that is the problem.
As it stands, 3.33 is garbage for it's poor plot, characterization and story alone.

But it is possible that it all seems so poor because we lack the context of what happened in the time gap. We've missed out on 14 years of development, of course it's going to feel jarring.
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>>138706862
If you're the same anon calling other's "bileposter" and other slurs, don't you realize your own hypocrisy?

Re-Take is a doujin that you might like, but it's also a doujin that goes really far to spread bile and hatred for other characters which people like.

So when you call Re-Take "great" or support it, you're basically being the bileposter yourself as you attack other posters.

It's as if I were to endorse any post with a "thumbs up!" because it called you a faggot or asuka a dirty whore, or something.
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>>138706862
Spread yourself on a cluster of rocks at the bottom of a steep cliff.
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>>138706946
>not reading other's posts
>providing retarded replies
>being civil
Fuck off. I'm being more civil by telling you the truth than you are lying, bileposter.

>But it is possible that it all seems so poor because we lack the context of what happened in the time gap. We've missed out on 14 years of development, of course it's going to feel jarring.
It is not possible because it is as a matter of fact poor regardless of what you fanwank inbetween the gaps. The problem is not that it is jarring or unexpected, simply that it is poorly put together, utterly destructive towards it's own quality and far, far too exaggerated in pandering.

Just consider the utter retardation of your own proposition. To defend 3.33, you are proposing something that didn't happen, a what-if. That "what-if" will never happen. It's already in the past, you can (not) redo.
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>>138706982
You mean this guy >>138706604 ?
Nah that's not me, I'm just a guy that likes Evangelion and Re-take.
There's an anon in here that hates shipping in all its forms, I live to bother him nowadays.

Without blogging, I'll try and keep it short.

>a doujin that goes really far to spread bile and hatred for other characters which people like.
It does to a certain extent, but its non-canon and because of that I don't think anyone should draw derision from it. I'm an Asukafag, but I regularly have amiable conversations with Reifags and Kaworufags. They don't think its spreading "bile" or sowing hatred because they know its non-canon, just like their own doujin preferences.

>So when you call Re-Take "great" or support it, you're basically being the bileposter yourself as you attack other posters.
See the above. I attack no anon, in fact I have no problem with anyone on here except that one anti-shipper bloke that I just like to annoy

>It's as if I were to endorse any post with a "thumbs up!" because it called you a faggot or asuka a dirty whore, or something.
If you want to call Asuka a dirty whore or something similar, then by all means knock yourself out. I'm not going to begrudge you your opinions of a character. Do and say as you see fit.
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>>138707169
>Fuck off. I'm being more civil
You're already not being civil

By the way, I'm not defending 3.33, all I did was posit a what if scenario that you ran with.
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Writefag here, just so you know.
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>>138707299
Holding that "only the time gap makes 3.33 bad" when there are numerous other issues with it is no different from defending it.
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>>138707363
Well that's a fair point, but I don't want to judge the series as a whole until it's finished. 3.33 definitely has problems outside of the timegap, some of which you've already covered, but were the gap filled I still think some things wouldn't have been as bad.
It did have a kickass soundtrack though.
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>>138707242
All right then.

>It does to a certain extent, but its non-canon and because of that I don't think anyone should draw derision from it.
Everything a hypothetical bileposter says is also non-canon, it does not stop it from being bile.

Oh and by the way, it's not just one anon, it's a rather large part of /a/ and the resident eva fanbase that isn't all right with shipping.
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>>138706658

Re-take is shit, the best Eva doujin series is Tengu no Tsurzura's:

http://exhentai.org/g/16973/e4da7cecbf/
http://exhentai.org/g/742/91caf491d2/
http://exhentai.org/g/191849/92d9c7c049/
http://exhentai.org/g/72461/76aa76245f/
http://exhentai.org/g/505536/042ffb0f0c/
http://exhentai.org/g/509575/c9ad8cf375/
http://exhentai.org/g/516945/bfb0403fcb/
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>>138701544
>implying any of the rebuilds are good
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>>138707412
>Well that's a fair point, but I don't want to judge the series as a whole until it's finished. 3.33 definitely has problems outside of the timegap, some of which you've already covered, but were the gap filled I still think some things wouldn't have been as bad.

This is also defending it in the exact same manner. You know that rationally you can't defend 3.33, and so you claim that you can't pass judgement or try to pretend it's problems are limited to only one thing at a time.

What you're doing is not civil discussion. There are two options possible:

1- You are actually retarded.
2- You're being knowingly dishonest, which is uncivil and only causes pointless argumentation.
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>>138707503
>lemme just spoonfeed these links real quick ahahah
Obliterate yourself.
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>>138706795
god dAMNIT
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>>138707242
You're absolutely disgusting for liking Re-take, you know.
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>>138707568

>recommending underrated and not well-known doujinshi is now "spoonfeeding"

lmao
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Honestly I'm not sure I'll even bother to watch it after how bad 3.0 was.

3.0 was worse than the fucking 00 Gundam Movie.
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i just hope Anno doesn't try to top EoE with this one, which is likely whats going to happen. the whole instrumentality things is just gonna feel like a rip off of his own work and a cheap trick.
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>>138707650
The 00 Gundam Movie was fine. It's on par with, if not even better than the first two seasons.
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>>138707439
>Everything a hypothetical bileposter says is also non-canon, it does not stop it from being bile.

But I'm not a bileposter anon.

>Oh and by the way, it's not just one anon, it's a rather large part of /a/ and the resident eva fanbase that isn't all right with shipping.

There are three sides to it if you ask me. Shippers. Shipping haters and those that simply don't care.
Regardless of which is the dominant party, the lesser two shouldn't be scorned for simply existing. That's what bileposting is. If you don't like something, then that's okay. But you have no right to shit on others that do like it unless they give you grief for liking another character or something. See: The Reiposter
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>>138707545
I think, now, I'm going to stop replying. If you want to chalk this up to one of your little victories, feel free to do so.
All I wanted to do was talk civilly, looks as though it's not going to happen.
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>>138707787
Consider that you are shitting on what other people like by e.g posting Re-Take, you should apply that bit to yourself.
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>>138707584
Oh I've been told, make no mistake!
There was a thread, maybe a day or two ago, I've been busy so I've forgotten, where we were talking about why we like certain things.

I brought up my reasons for liking Re-take and some anon's said something along the same line as you. And rightly so, I like things that can be considered to be a little messed up. And I'm okay with that.

>>138707901
>Consider that you are shitting on what other people like by e.g posting Re-Take, you should apply that bit to yourself.

I disagree. I post Re-take from time to time, others post the "Rei is a toilet" thing (which I still don't understand to this day), others post Shinji as "Best Girl" wheras others like to post about background characters they like etc

All these posts range from discussion, to insults, to character bashing, shipping, crackshipping and more.

Do I consider any of those anon's to be shitting on what I like because of that? Not at all. They are, like myself, perfectly entitled to what they like.
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>>138708003
So if some posters like shitting on Asuka, they're entitled to that, right?

No matter how you try to dress up your own shitposting anon, you will always get called out. You aren't any different from obvious shitposters like the toiletposting Asukafag, in fact he's better than you because damnit, he's honest about what he's doing.

You on the other hand, aren't. Then you also condemn those posters for doing something you also do.
Hypocritical, dumb, and evil, that's what you are.
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So how was 1.11 again?
For some reason i decided to order the eva movies off amazon, except for 3.
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This thread is hilarious
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>>138708120
>skipping 3
Good choice.
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>>138707833
You're confirmed for being a dishonest, uncivil shitposter.

You never were civil at any one point.
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>>138708099
>So if some posters like shitting on Asuka, they're entitled to that, right?
They are.

>You on the other hand, aren't. Then you also condemn those posters for doing something you also do.
Hypocritical, dumb, and evil, that's what you are.

When did I condemn someone for something?
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>>138708232
Oh I dunno, the whole part where you said it wasn't okay to hate on something or someone in this post >>138708003
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>>138708232
Then I really don't see why you're bitching about other posters being mean, if you think they're entitled to being mean and can without problem, shit on what you like and vice versa.
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It has to be good.

I have a theory that each Rebuild is a critic of the anime industry, and that 3.0+1.0 will be the cipher that makes this understandable.
1.11- Parody of shameless cash in remakes, that build on a previous work and add nothing
2.22 - Criticism of the the run of the mill shonen that has been copy pasted over anime's lifespan; slice of life parts, confident MC who has all the females wanting him, and most obviously those shonen 'I'm pushing myself beyond the limit' screams at the end.
3.33 - Just making fun of anime with all style, no substance. I often see 3.33 as what I assume people who don't like Eva see Eva as: a bunch of fancy presentation and big ideals, but nothing actually backing them up. Nothing in 3.33 makes sense.

My hope for the final film is to make these themes apparent, and to do it gracefully. We know Anno isn't a fan of certain parts of anime culture, so I think this is not completely out of left field.

Or else I'm just trying to cover up how disappointed I was in all three Rebuilds. We'll find out eventually
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>>138708288
But it isn't okay to hate on someone, and so I didn't hate on them.
I repeat, when did I condemn someone?

>>138708359
They can do just that, if they want. I didn't say otherwise
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>>138708145
I maybe a pleb in buying physical mediums but 3 was the only way i didnt enjoy(from memory).
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>>138707649
I don't want anyone else knowing about some of my favorites. Fuck off back to plebbit if you want to play good samaritan. Skin yourself.
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Rebuild should have been 12 episode OVA series.
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>>138708419
Your theory doesn't quite hold water, only the observations somewhat match.

1.11 is indeed built on a previous work and doesn't add very much. But only if you raise the bar to the point where you're overtly strict, as 1.11 did throw quite a few wrenches to the machinery for both characters and plot. (Rei doesn't see Gendo in the flashback, Misato knows about Lilith).

2.22 is relatively light-hearted but can't be said to be a criticism of run-of-the-mill shonens, because in effect it's merely a slightly darker spin on the orginal which was for the most part actually even more cliched, where every episode the zany screams and plans actually work with no loss of life.

3.33 is absolutely without substance, and is all about choosing pandering over quality. However this needs not be intentional or a parody, because 3.33 is simply not just making fun of anime, it's actually deeply biased towards the directors own favorite characters and spends more time belittling characters he does not like.

While 4.44 could definitely reveal some sort of scheme that plays on how irredeemable 3.33 was, that's not going to happen. Because while 3.33 really is as shallow and horrid as you might expect, it's actually likely to be 100%. They weren't pretending to be retarded when they made 3.33.
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>>138708717
As I said, I'm clinging to the 'pretending to be retarded' argument right now, hope it delivers
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>>138708862
hope hasn't died in me yet either, but I know better than to expect anything but anno's ugly otaku self having gone overboard
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Bump?
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>>138709222
No.
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>>138709243
Spelled, Y-E-S?
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If the tagline for 3.0+1.0 or 4.0 once it's revealed in the post-credits turns out to be "You Must (Not) Run Away" I'm going to to fucking pissed.
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>>138704932
Khara and the rebuilds have the same problem modern Brthesda games have (sorry for the /v/ analogy)

All the cool/good bits of writing have no thematic importance and is pushed SOO far to the back that they're basically Easter eggs. All that crazy stuff with the angel glyphs, sequel theory, that's cool, but it doesn't add on to the movie, doesn't mix. It gives you SOMETHING that you can analyze, but there's no meaning to it.


It's like how in Morrowind your adventure is basically a form of virtual culture shock where you play ambassador, diplomat, and politician for multiple factions. The crazy lore actually has something to do with the world as you see it and the events of the game. The stiff you dig for completely change how you view motivations of the different factions and gods, especially Vivec.

Skyrim has stuff that says you and the dragon antagonist are separate personalities of a schitzo time god, but that means nothing to the world. You can find evidence of Ulfric being brainwashed by his enemies so the Thalmor can destabilize the region and Empire further with a planted civil war, but there's no consequences for this, it doesn't impact Jack shit.

It's the difference between having a shamalama ding dong shocking twists that comes out of nowhere and character reveals that are dropped slowly over time until you you KNOW something horrible is going to happen, but WHAT and HOW it happens can't be predicted.

Final's not going to be good because they've tried to jump the shark so many times and 1up themselves that there's no [HAPPENING] barrier of expectations to shatter.

When you first watched EoE, you expect an apocalypse, you do not expect an orgasmic Childhood's End set to a suicidal Hey Jude.
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>>138701414


It can't be worse than 2.22
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>>138707503
Mantou's series is pretty great too
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>>138712369
>trolling
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>>138711360
The "crazy stuff" is just there to divert attention away from the actual scheme of the movie, to play waifu war games.
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>>138713360
Waifu schlock and Action Schlock are all the same to me. I can at least enjoy well animated action schlock.

The worse thing they could do is have the girls fight for real over Shinji's dick. I would walk out the theatre right thena and there.

I "waifu'd" asuka because I related to and understood that need to bullshit yourself and get an ego when you get emotionally smacked around, and how it takes a fucking 3rd impact to snap out of it. To stop propping yourself up and start building yourself up.

If they wanted to pander to me they could've given me a scene after EoE where they see/say what happened to each other. I don't need romance after that. All rebuild is doing is shipping characters together before they'd even have a chance to understand each other.
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>>138713859
Anno doesn't think like that. Neither do Asukafags in general, you may be the sole exception basically.
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>>138714007
>all Asukafags are shippers and this normalfuck is the exception
Engage in some analplay with a cattlegun, thanks.
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>>138714571
Man, Asukafags sure are a disgusting vile bunch
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>>138714652
Abloo bloo.
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As long as we dont have more fucking Nadia references and fucking wunder I will be fine.

I wouldnt mind if Asuka and Shinji finally hugged, made out, had sex and fucking talked so that they would stop being dense. Seriously.
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>>138717632
Make it with Rei, Mari, Misato or anyone else that makes more sense.
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>>138701414
They need either a fifth movie or Yasuhiro Imagawa to write and direct this.

Since neither are likely it will probably be mediocre.
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>>138717740
The movies are following fucking fairy tale format. Gendo is the fucking evil king and Asuka it's the princess according to 3.33
So who do you think shinji is? the prince in his white charger that is going to save the princess.

Didnt mari said to him to at least save the princess?
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>>138703223
Well, actually...
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>>138704873
too good to be true
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>>138717822
They aren't following a fairy tale format, not any known format at least unless it's making up it's own. The guy who gets the princess in fairytales isn't the prince (which shinji would be as he's the king's (gendo) son, but either some random hobo who tricks himself into a share of princess ass, or a knight.

Characterwise, either of the non-asuka options make more sense at the moment, or better yet, none.
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>>138718012
If what I stated to you isnt obvious enough then why the fuck does Rei's shield from 1.0 has the same name as the shield from the prince of the sleeping beauty?
Why the fuck did shinji picked the book of the happy prince on the pile of abandoned books in 3.33?

At this point you are just being bias, contrarian or delusional anon. Everything is there in front of your eyes.

Asuka and Shinji are gonna get finally together, after all they do in EOE.
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>>138718245
There are fairy tale references, but so far you're wrong insofar that it follows any of the known formats.

Quite honestly, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

At any rate, wouldn't it worry you that Rei is associated with the vast majority of fairy tale elements then?

What I think is that you're a dumb shipper who is desperately trying to string together stuff that validates your pairing, and no, they did not get together in EoE.
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>>138708003
>others post Shinji as "Best Girl"
One of those being me I confess it, more for fun than anything. I get bored when the thread goes from actual discussions to 'm-muh Rei/Asuka is better' and then shitting on the another character to 'prove' it.
Too many years, I'm old and tired.
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>>138717632
Kys.
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>>138718245
>Asuka and Shinji are gonna get finally together, after all they do in EOE.
>Shinji nearly kills Asuka
>Asuka insults Shinji
>"they totally got together guize"
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>>138718366
I just want to talk about Giant Cyborgs how badly Anno will BTFO otaku
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>>138718513
>I just want to talk about Giant Cyborgs and how badly Anno will BTFO otaku

my bad
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>>138718438
It's just a deranged shipper. That's all.
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>>138718513
>>138718366
You're both stupid. Despite your "age", you haven't learned anything.
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>>138718365
>What I think is that you're a dumb shipper
What I think because you confirmed it, is that you have no argument and you are just being contrarian as fuck. You are just stringing shit and denying without having anything.


>Them not getting together in EOE.
Bitch, did you even get the hedgehog dilema? The whole series was about them trying to reach but hurting each other in the process. It isnt until the end when the barriers of frustration that they have are gone and they finally reach.
They liked each other so now they are together, even one of the guys that worked in the movie drew this.
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>>138718602
>What I think because you confirmed it, is that you have no argument and you are just being contrarian as fuck. You are just stringing shit and denying without having anything.

I had an argument. It was the entire first part of my post. Here, let me quote it again for you:

>There are fairy tale references, but so far you're wrong insofar that it follows any of the known formats.
>Quite honestly, I don't think you know what you're talking about.
>At any rate, wouldn't it worry you that Rei is associated with the vast majority of fairy tale elements then?

So as you can see, given that you ignored that, it would really seem that I was right about you. You really are just a dumb shipper.
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>>138718438
>Not getting the hedgehog dilema being the theme of the fucking series.
>I dont understand shit if they dont verbally say it in the show.

>>138718574
>Still mad as fuck and without argument.

Typical illiterate otaku.
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>>138718589
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>>138718670
I'm all for fun, but get real. You're complaining about being tired of infighting, but you yourself don't have it in you to _actually_ talk about the giant cyborgs or the story itself.

In fact this guy: >>138718513
just wants to talk nonsense.
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Am I the only one that thought while 3.0 was the worst of the rebuilds, it was still pretty enjoyable and okay
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>>138718651
Telling me I dont know what I am talking about is not an argument.
Me being wrong in that it follows any format when I explained already in this posts: >>138718245
>>138717822

Yup, hypocricy and loads of mad from your part anon, Keep it up you illiterate pleb.
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>>138718746
>_actually_
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>>138718754
I enjoyed it but the wunder parts where super cringeworthy. I honestly hated them and hate the concept of garlock in Evangelion.
But I enjoyed the movie alright.
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>>138718754
It was eh. Action scenes were nice but instead of developing characters the movie focused on gay piano lessons.

Also, Maya being replaced by hentai-chan is unacceptable
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>>138718366
Hey don't sweat it anon, if you want to post Shinji as best girl, then go nuts.
Hell, some of the pictures are actually kinda cute.
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>>138718830
>>138718883
Agreed with both of you. I seriously hope 3.0+1.0 does something to pick it all back up.
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>>138718670
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>>138718746
I only do that when the thread is already unsalvable, anon. I thought I made it obvious. I'm not going to fuck it up when the thread is actually interesting, I actually will make more walls of text or just read if I don't have nothing to add. Sadly, having good Eva discussions in /a/ is not the usual.
I don't care about the other guy, people hating on Eva is also common after all because 'dah overrated anime'.
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>>138718781
>Telling me I dont know what I am talking about is not an argument.
It's backed up by this, which you also missed:
>There are fairy tale references, but so far you're wrong insofar that it follows any of the known formats.

You mention references, but you don't mention any format in specific pertaining to fairy tales. Also refer to this earlier post >>138718012
which takes one known format for instance.

So yeah, you're a dumb shipper anon. Sorry.
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>>138718953
People who hate on Eva have never been any sort of interference.
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>>138718781
>>138719028
>Literally regurgitating arguments back and forth

stop it both of you or I'm cancelling 3.0+1.0
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infighting fucking sucks.
The anon that was all about being peaceful and posting what you want, in regards to Evangelion, in a vacum devoid of judgement had the right idea.
He may have been retarded in regards to other topics, but I liked the general idea.
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Why do everyone hate 3.0 so much?
I held it off because almost everyone said it was mediocre to shit, and it turned out to be pretty good.
It was shitty in terms of progression of the story since there was a lot of hype at the end of 2.0, which resulted in a strong sense of discontinuity due to timeskip, new infodumps, and sudden change in characters. I certainly do hope that they make 2.5 movie later to make up for it.
But 3.0 was just setting up things for 4.0 to happen, similar to what 1.0 was for 2.0. And it did a good job for me since I'm pretty excited for 4.0.

Also pic related helped me understand what Anno is trying to do
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>>138707329
es its Showzeit!
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>>138719028
>You mention references, but you don't mention any format in specific.

>Being this desperate

Prince saves princess from evil fucking king? Sleeping fucking beauty? The happy prince? As I stated above.

Anon, you accuse me of shipper as if it where something bad. But at least I got something, all you have is your bile and your butt hurt.
Go to the store, get some pomade.

>>138719088
Fine, eitherway I dont know why I am even bothering with that illiterate cuck.
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>>138719205
Thought this exactly
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>>138719246
Too late I already changed the ending so that Shinji is married with Maya instead of Asuka.

You Otaku disgust me
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>>138719088
>>138719246
The Happy Prince doesn't even feature a princess, anon.
Prince saves princess from evil king, what format is that?

You are a shipper, and yes it is bad. Look at how deranged and weird you're acting.
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>>138719319
Who is the otaku now?
Manchild changing shit becuase he got upset about fans?
Cry me a river annon.
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>>138719241
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>>138719205
Because everything you wrote is basically bullshit.

It's plot is garbage, it's characters are garbage, and it's over the top pandering with no substance. No, it is not a setup, it's a movie. It's the third movie out of four, it cannot do setup and whatever setup it did, it failed miserably at.

The fact that you even say they have to make a "2.5 movie" to make up for it just shows you how bad the movie actually is, it literally needs something to fix it.

>>138719261
Then you are mentally retarded.
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>>138719347
That ain't me

>>138719384
I will make Gunbuster real and you stupid Gaijin fucks will regret it
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>>138719205
It's a giant clusterfuck of a movie. There have been literally hundreds of threads since early 2013, when people had time to digest it all, explaining why in a pretty clear, cogent, and logical manner.
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>>138719416
aite anon, be like that
dunno why you still care about Eva if it's so ruined for you like you described 3.0
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>>138718890
Oh, thanks anon. I do think he looks very cute too, specially when he's wearing Asuka's plugsuit or the matching outfits with her in Dance like you want to win. The plugsuit scene was something I was looking forward in the Rebuilds, his reaction is so hilarious, but Anno trolled me there. But seriously, can't blame fujos dressing him in girly clothes.
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>>138719495
Speaking of which, anyone got the scene where he's brushing his teeth with Asuka and you can see his delicious collarbones?
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>>138719495
Being an Asukafag myself, I obviously have a preference for Shinji being her sub. He is certainly good at pleasing multiple parties.
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ascucka is fucking shit
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>>138719599
no u fagt
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>>138719347
>The Happy Prince doesn't even feature a princess, anon.
The happy prince it's a series of stories.

>Prince saves princess from evil king, what format is that?
Do you even know the meaning of format?
Either way this is all common trope among fairy tale stories, Which is the stuff that the rebuilds are following.

The fact that you refuse to use common sense to acknowledge, makes me wonder why I am even bothering. It is clear that you are either trolling or biased as fuck to just be contrarian.
>Being this mad about shipping.
Cry me a river cuck, as if your deranged opinion mattered. And now does even less due to your manchild acting.

Have fun.
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>>138701414
I been cling the fact that these movies are sequels. The final film will tie the original 2 the current universe and like the movie title suggest. 3.0 will go back 2 the start 1.0. You cannot redo. I belive these workes can be summarise with this quote. "You can trow a stone in a current,but it won't stop the flow. It will measly meet around it.
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>>138719432
The fuck is gunbuster? Dude get real, no one gives a shit about your shitty animes except evangelion.
Nada was a shit, and it's ending was one of the most lazy, sick hamfisted shits out there.

You ruined captain nemo because you couldnt stop masturbating to Garlock and Yamato.

Grow the fuck up.
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>>138718602
>It isnt until the end when the barriers of frustration that they have are gone and they finally reach

If by "finally reach" you mean continue to hurt each other, then sure.
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>>138719582
kindred spirit anon.
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>>138719709
Send help
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>>138719627
>The happy prince it's a series of stories.
No, The Happy Prince is one single story. There is a book called "The Happy Prince and Other Tales", where "other tales" are included.
None of them feature a princess.

>Do you even know the meaning of format?
Yes, I do. I've discussed at least one format, and you've yet to assess a single one.

It's quite obvious to anyone reading this that you're absolutely insane, anon. A deranged shipper just like I said.
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>>138719709
>If by "finally reach" you mean continue to hurt each other, then sure.

Confirmed for not getting the theme of the series.
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i didn't know shipping was this big on eva.
i tough it was robots.
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>>138719752
You're a good person anon. Asuka will reward you in due time.
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>>138719823
>robots

haha yeah totally man
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>>138719489
3.0 is garbage, but the original isn't.

Question is, why on earth do you pretend 3.0 isn't absolute trash?
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>>138719823
Fucking evageeks and no one telling them to fuck off save for myaelf usually.
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>>138719823
>i didn't know shipping was this big on eva.
>i tough it was robots.
My sweet summer child, they aren't robots
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>>138719850
>literal cuck who ships
>hypothetically rewarding him anything
I just want to incinerate all this shipping trash.
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Asukafags confirmed to be utter trash as usual.
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>>138719921
>>literal cuck who ships
The fuck does that even mean?
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>>138719909
>>138719867
robots/androids,things with a skeleton inside, flesh on the outside and armor outside of the outside.
whateve.r
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>>138719973
It think it means Asukafags are weak-willed betas/insane deranged people or something.
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>>138719921
Dear bile kun.
Please go fuck yourself and then kill yourself.
Kindley, your parents.
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>>138720035
Huh, weird term
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>>138719921
Agreed. There hasn't been a worse influence on the fanbase than these shipping retard Asukafags.

The Kaworufags are 100% shippers but at least they can contain themselves.
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>>138719876
>fucking evageeks and no one telling them to fuck off
I know that feel anon, I know that feel.
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>>138719810
What do you think is the theme? Something like "love can break all barriers"? I'm sorry for ruining your headcanon, but EoE simply doesn't show or imply that Shinji and Asuka will get together.
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>>138720125
>at least they can contain themselves.
>Acting as though this is true
You're funny bullshit-chan!
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>>138720075
Shippers are inadvertent cuckolds, that's all.
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>>138719804
>Yes, I do. I've discussed at least one format,
No you didnt anon, if what you "discussed is a format then the following one should be one too: Prince saves princess from evil king by defeating a dragon. Aka the sleeping beauty.
Prince saves princess from a high tower, like fucking rapunzel.
The bauty and the beast, even the Evas go beast mode.

You see anon, you are the only one biling shit here, and the only deranged one for haunting every single evangelion thread accusing shippers of shit, while you are the one that keeps throwing shit around. which is funny really.
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Mari > Asuka > Hikari > Maya > Misato > Rei > Ritsuko
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>>138720245
A-are you me?
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>>138720193
You ignored the bit about the happy prince, deranged-shipper bileposter-kun. So in the context of this story that you brought up, we don't have a match for this format.

Moreover, there is something else that you also ignored, which is the fact that nearly all of the fairy-tale elements don't relate at all to Asuka or Shinji so far, but Rei.

All of your examples so far, save for the idea that Asuka is nicknamed "princess", is consistent with that.

So like you can see, you are quite obviously grasping at every straw you can get hold of to support your vain ship, which gets you the ire of more or less everyone in the threads you post. I usually don't care and don't give people like that the time of day, but since you had some theory I thought I'd humour you, a shame to see that it all fell apart.

Consider again this format of yours, and how the story so far has subverted it by not putting Asuka in a position of rescue and instead, having the "princess" sort of rescue Shinji after attacking him.

Needless to say, there's so many holes in your theory that it'd sink if you set it afloat. I don't go around accusing shippers of shit, but you might feel attack by a lot of people in the fanbase still, and let me tell you this:

it has to do with you more than it has to do with them. You're forcing a ship, more or less ignoring the actual characters in play here, just for a superficial fantasy you can get off to.

In a franchise which demonizes escapism, it's actually fairly disgusting to most people the way you demand Evangelion is all about being your own fetish fuel for fanfics.
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>>138720540
This isn't wordpress, anon
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>>138720665
That's what butthurt losers say.
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>>138720179

Hedgehog dilema of what happens in the show:

Girl likes boy, keeps giving him advances but grows frustrated when boy is too fucking naive to notice them thus keeps hurting her.
This could be solved if they had proper communication.

Boy likes girl but is too scared of getting rejected/getting hurt by her. To the point of percieving her as a hate machine in his own mind. He is only capable of telling her how he feels and what he wants when she is incapable of saying no.
This could be solved if they had proper communication.

During apocalyptic fuck up, boy goes again to girl in desperation. The girl "how he percieves her on his mind" rejects him and hurts him as he expected her to do so. He explodes in frustration and strangles that which makes him weak and suffer.

At the end after an apocalyptic fuck up. Boy sees the real girl on the beach and hurts her on impulse believing that the girl that he percieved on instrumentality is how the girl in reality really is.

Girl reaches for his warmth despite being hurt. In this case plainly referencing the hedgehog dilema in which hedgehog A would get close for warm to hedgehog B without giving a fuck about getting hurt.

Boy feels the sincere kindness and touch that he had so longed and breaks into tears over girl. Thus confirming to the girl that boy reciprocates her feelings.

Girl says: disgusting which could mean:
She is disgusted that she loves a guy like him.
She was aware of what boy was doing during the hospital scene and insulted him as he had asked her and also because she feels repulsive that he jerked to her.

In the end they finally manage to communicate each other anon and the wall of frustrations that had been built during the show is gone, leaving them in a very promising note.

Cinephiles would get it but Otakus do not get it so easy because they never go outside their animes that explain shit in your face.
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>>138720689
>That's what butthurt losers say.
That's what people that want to blog say.
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>>138720728
Cinephile != retarded shipper
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>>138720193
Have you thought that maybe the princess title Mari gave to Asuka is only her affectionate way to call her, as well as Asuka calls her four eyes or something like that? Mari even called Shinji puppy dog or something too. I think she gave a name to Rei too. She also likes to sing songs, so it can be only her having a childish personality. They've been together for fourteen years, so they are familiar enough to use nicknames.
I don't know man, but it gave me that vibe when I watched 3.0. Never thought that was because Asuka was the princess of the series or something as big as you've said. For me that's already thinking too much, I'm sorry.
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>>138719416
>It's plot is garbage, it's characters are garbage, and it's over the top pandering with no substance.
That's a lot of buzzword, but I guess this has been discussed m any times.
>No, it is not a setup, it's a movie. It's the third movie out of four, it cannot do setup and whatever setup it did, it failed miserably at.
I wasn't defending it as a standalone movie, it's pretty shitty by itself, and that's also why I mentioned that 2.5 movie would improve it by a ton. I guess 3.0 movie could've been 30 minutes longer to shove that in, but it seems like they were trying to shove in so much with what they already had.

It was a risky move and tried to shove in retarded amounts of shit in one movie while also having a timeskip, but we won't be able to tell whether that will pay off until 4.0 comes out.

>>138719473
>It's a giant clusterfuck of a movie
I can get behind that, but its not 'worse than cancer' tier that some people make it to be.
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>>138720772
>hurr
Well have it your way, enjoy your retard shipping, I'm off.
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>>138720728
>Cinephiles would get it but Otakus do not get it so easy because they never go outside their animes that explain shit in your face.

Anon, this is still an anime, not a western movie, so that last argument has nothing to do here.
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>>138720817
>hurr
Ladies and gentlemen, a retard.
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>>138720245
Maya > everyone else >>>>>>> Hentai chan from 3.0
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>>138720802
>That's a lot of buzzword, but I guess this has been discussed m any times.
They aren't buzzwords, they are normal english words.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_plot

Read up.

>I wasn't defending it as a standalone movie, it's pretty shitty by itself, and that's also why I mentioned that 2.5 movie would improve it by a ton. I guess 3.0 movie could've been 30 minutes longer to shove that in, but it seems like they were trying to shove in so much with what they already had.

30 minutes, one hour, it wouldn't have mattered. The movie would still be utter garbage due to how it proceeds and what choices it makes for these characters, which end in regression as far as quality goes. You would always be stuck with something inferior to the characters of the previous two movies, and inferior to the characters if they were developed from 2.0.


>It was a risky move and tried to shove in retarded amounts of shit in one movie while also having a timeskip, but we won't be able to tell whether that will pay off until 4.0 comes out.
We can tell already now. Because the characters are shallow now, 4.0 will inevitably end up working up with worse characters than it had to.

FYI the big secret about 3.0 is already out, Anno and the directors are just playing favorites. Anno is an outspoken Asuka fan for instance, and takes every chance he can to belittle Rei and push up Asuka. It's no coincidence that Asuka's flaws are removed, whilst Rei is weakened and humiliated in these movies.

Most likely, these movies don't exist for another reason than that.

>>138720728
Like a cinephile would reduce EoE to some horny 14-year old's mastubatory fantasy with a redhead because he got bullied as a kid or something. Just fuck off, cancer.
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God, Asukafags really are worse than Kaworufags. All this fucking thread.
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>>138720540

> the story so far has subverted it by not putting Asuka in a position of rescue

This is how biased and retarded you are. Shinji/Unit-01 literally saves Asuka during the opening of the fucking movie when she cries "do something baka shinji"

Yet you still ignore it. More proof of your shit bias or that you are simply a deranged retard.

>Needless to say, there's so many holes in your theory that it'd sink if you set it afloat.

How about you name some eh? Come on bile kun, after all there are many right?

You can write a bible of text and you still wont be credible. When you insulted shipperfaggs you automatically set your identity as bias fuck that just wants to be contrarian.

Also how is it forcing ship?
It's been pretty clear that Asuka likes Shinji in this series of movies.
They still included the scene where they sleep together.
Shinji would had rather die than hurt her during the unit-03 attack.
Asuka helps shinji back on his feet like Misato did on EOE

Now if according to you this, plus:


Asuka being the princess that needs help.
Gendo being the evil king.
Shinji being the son of the king - meaning - he is the prince.
Characters keep telling shinji to save the princess.

It's there just for fucks and is forcing ship. Then I am sorry anon but you are insane or clearly do not want to see it.
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>>138720802
>That's a lot of buzzword, but I guess this has been discussed m any times.

I have no cogent argument for anything presented in this thread/post so I will just complain about "buzzwords".
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>>138721469
Aren't you still ignoring the first parts of what the anon wrote? What's wrong with Asukafags
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>>138720776
cry me a river anon. Clearly more inteligent than you since you couldnt grasp that concept by yourself.
>>138720875
cinephiles are exclusive to western media?
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>>138720802
>I can get behind that, but its not 'worse than cancer' tier that some people make it to be.
It actually is that worse.

You know how the Harry Potter movies differ from the book series? Well, in the books the Hermione character have among other flaws a fear of heights, and a tendency to become irrational and confused when stressed. At this point, another character called Ron would usually interfere with some down-to-earth logic that saves the day.

So when J.K Rowling met over dinner with the director for these movies, she hoped that his favorite wasn't Ron (as he was so likable), but Hermione. Turns out, his favorite was also Hermione. Together they feared that Hermione wouldn't be as popular as they themselves wanted, and so they moved Ron's strengths to Hermione and Hermione's weaknesses to Ron. Now suddenly in the movies, Ron messes up and needs hermione's logic, while Hermione lost her fear of heights and flies high.

The same thing happened with NGE-> Rebuild, only much worse. Anno's favorite is Asuka, and he's upset that Rei is more popular than Asuka. He takes every chance he can to comment negatively about Rei, and Rebuild is the logical extension of that.

So we enter Rebuild, Asuka's flaws are gone, she's now merely grumpy instead of messed up. Rei the proto-human goddess in NGE is in Rebuild is now written out half-way, humiliated and degraded in 3.33, and inexplicably Asuka is now some sort of angel as well.

Rebuild 3.33 actually spends more time on having each character deride Shinji for trying to care about or save Rei, and even has Rei degraded to a mere Yui-clone. It also writes in a caricature character known as Rei Q, which embodies everything the old Asuka said Rei was - a doll.

So the reason 3.33 doesn't have any solid characterization or working storyline is because it's primary focus is on just writing in these changes, and because they are so absurd and specific they can't have any development or buildup. 3.33 is the worst.
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>>138721469
>ignores half the anon's post even after he calls you out on it
>chops his sentences in half so he can make an unrelated out of context rebuttal

You must either be desperate to defend your ship or irredeemably dense.
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>>138721036
>Like a cinephile would reduce EoE to some horny 14-year old's mastubatory fantasy with a redhead because he got bullied as a kid or something.

I see no argument there from your part. Only loads and loads of butthurt.
Stay mad pleb, because at this rate YOU are the one who is gonna fuck off to the grave with loads and loads of annal cancer.
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>>138721591
>>138721702
>i have a pretend fanatasy involving minors
>that means I'm a cinephile

filthy dumb,
shipper scum
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>>138721591
I'm saying that movies from the West and anime in the East do not aim at the same audience, so they can't be approached the same way, and trying to analize one or another like if it were the opposite isn't very wise. Plus cultural differences. You guys usually forget Eva is that, an anime, no matter how well done actually is and how much we enjoy it.
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>>138721522
Explain then how it is more related to Rei then. Go on.

>>138721683
>Lacking this comprehension skill.
Anon seriously, read properly. That your parents gave you shit eyesight or that you are too poor to learn how to read is not my problem.
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>>138721867
didn't you _just_ earlier write something that "oh it's true because rei has the shield, and she has those books" and whatever?
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>>138721818
Excuses anon, that shit was clear enough. Western people are not fucking aliens you know.
Seriously go out there and watch more movies.
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Shinji should just die, let everyone else who has to suffer from his stupidity live
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>>138721897
So you want me to explain you shit that I first stated?
Are you fucking retarded?

Yes Rei had the prince charming shield and shinji got her the happy prince book, so? What about it?
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>>138721867
>Explain then how it is more related to Rei then. Go on.
It's more about how you ignored it along with ignoring how you got rekt on the issue of the happy prince, really. It's just really pathetic how deluded shippers like yourself deny anything that doesn't help the shipping agenda.

The more you go into it the worse it gets. If Rei has the Enchanted Shield of Virtue or whatever, does that mean she is the Prince? If she's reading "The Happy Prince", does that mean she's the prince?
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>>138722053
>What about it?
I believe that was the question directed at you earlier, among the other things you conveniently ignored because your dumb shipper ass got triggered.
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>>138721942
I literally said plus cultural differences. I'm western and I lived in Japan for enough time. I know what I'm saying.
Anyway, I'm leaving. This thread has no sense since too many replies ago, it's a lost of time. Good luck there, anon.
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>>138721595
It's especially odd since I thought Rei was pretty well fleshed out in 2.00
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>>138722079

>It's more about how you ignored it along with ignoring how you got rekt on the issue of the happy prince, really.

If anyone got rekt here it was you and by yourself. Claiming shit that contradicts what happened during the beggining of the movie.

Also how does the issue of the happy prince disapprove my theory or the ship anon? you are just desperate to unleash your frustration of stupity on me.

Shinji was the one that picked the happy prince and gave it to Rei.

Dude seriously, if you want to discuss a movie I suggest you to watch it first.

All you do is cherry picking shit and cling to that because you got nothing. You got rekt, humilliated, you couldnt disaprove my statements which I backed with facts!

get rekt inbred.
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>>138722279
It's not odd because Anno went for the long game with this, he makes 1.0 which is similar and has a near identical Rei, changes the character a bit with 2.0, and then ruins it. Makes for greater impact.

Evangelion hasn't been about anything else but Anno's vanity since 1995-1997.
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>>138704973
Oh boi
here we go
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>>138722183
It doesnt matter anon, visual language was there and I dont see how being a western or a easterling would make it have different meaning.
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>>138722328
Let's just conveniently ignore, yet again, that you kept claiming the happy prince involved princesses and whatnot. At least admit you're full of shit and haven't even done the basic research.
Your theory was humoured, and when you were asked even a tiny bit of challenging questions you went ballistic because you're only there for shipping, not understanding.

>Shinji was the one that picked the happy prince and gave it to Rei.
In 3.0, she's been reading it herself since 1.0.

>Dude seriously, if you want to discuss a movie I suggest you to watch it first.
Back at you. Seriously, for fucking shame anon.

I'm not cherry picking, that'd be you. I only addressed whatever you wrote earlier and you exploded out of butthurt. If you can't see that by now, you're officially insane.
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>>138722127
Oh boy anon are you retarded.
He is asking me the same question that I asked him.

Dumb imbred.
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>>138722499
You were quite literally asked earlier that very same question, which made you erupt in fanboy insanity.

Here's the post: >>138718245
and the question you dodged and is still dodging:
>At any rate, wouldn't it worry you that Rei is associated with the vast majority of fairy tale elements then?

a simple question as what you think that means, but naturally because it doesn't aid your theory, you lost it and went full fucking retard asukafag fanboy, pointlessly making Asukafags look even worse than they already do.
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>>138722447
>>138722447
>Let's just conveniently ignore, yet again, that you kept claiming the happy prince involved princesses
I never made such claim, you just clinged to it.

I explained my theory and you got rekt by yourself when you made baseless claims. I suggest you watching the movie before dicussing anon. Trust me it will save you from looking like a jackass.

>>138722447
>In 3.0, she's been reading it herself since 1.0.
In 3.0 she doesnt read any books anon, why do you think Shinji literally left her a pile of books outside of her tent.

See what I mean? How stupid can you be?

>Back at you. Seriously, for fucking shame anon.
LOL humor me, I aint the one getting the movie facts wrong here.

Either you really havent seen it or you really are insane.
I honestly dont know what I am doing discussing with actual authists, too many shit posters in here to care now.
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>>138713012

Not a fan of Mantou's art style really, but in terms of writing it's not bad, I can understand the appeal.

>>138708573

>I don't want to connect in any way shape or form with other human beings

Confirmed for completely missing the entire point of Evangelion
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>>138722632
>>138722632
>a simple question as what you think that means, but naturally because it doesn't aid your theory, you lost it and went full fucking retard asukafag fanboy, pointlessly making Asukafags look even worse than they already do.

See what I mean? grasping at straws.
The questions that you asked and are claiming that I dodged had nothing to do with asuka yet you are going bitchy hurt about it.

Cant be this biased anon, seriously go to a center to hep you with your authism.
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>>138722707
So 1.0 and 2.0, where things like the shield you mentioned, or the book (the happy prince) was introduced, just magically cease to exist once they become inconvenient?
The Happy Prince is a book Rei read in 1.0, and then left on her shelf in 2.0. The shield is only found in 1.0.

In 3.0, Shinji gives not-Rei those books because he was there when the real Rei read them in 1.0.

You didn't get anything right so far and I doubt you're about to start soon. As long as this thread exists and is archived, it'll exist as proof that Asuka fan shippers are absolute retards.
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Best ships:

>Shinji/Kaworu
>Asuka/Mari
>Misato/Kenji
>Maya/Ritsuko
>Kaji/Rei

Fight me, faggots.

>>138722913

As philanthropic as I may be, I'm not about to hand out the secret to getting past the panda. You're on your own there, buddy.
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>>138722735
>connect with others by sharing doujinshi of you're waifu anon!
Die.
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>>138723118

>implying Asuka is my waifu
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>>138723221
>namefag
>can't beat the sad panda
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>>138723221

While you're at it, drop the trip, it doesn't contribute anything to the thread, and you're just painting a huge target on your back.
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>>138723209
She's mine you retarded faggot.
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>>138723367
it's funny that you think that
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>>138723367

So then did I cuck you by sharing the doujinshi?
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>>138707503
>[Ex](C68) [TENGU NO TSUZURA (Kuro Tengu)] NERV no Ichiban Nagai Hi | NERV's Longest Day (Neon Genesis Evangelion) [English] =SSD=
this was best for its comedic value
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>>138723503

That right there, that's what I'm talking about.

>>138723537

Exactly. Even if the sex or the pairing isn't particularly great, the humor more than makes up for it. It feels like a really spot-on Eva parody.
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>>138723519
No, just badly pissed me off. Which happens every day it seems. That being said, kill yourself.
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>>138723069
>dem ships
good taste Kaiji/Rei would be nteresting
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>>138723586
Nice non/a/ reaction image shipscum. Enjoy the ban, samefaggimg shitter.
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>>138723503
Gore yourself on a buttplug, crackshipper.
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>>138723692
>Gore yourself on a buttplug
This sounds hugely intriguing
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>>138723625

The initial basis for it was a joke: Kaji is a farmer, and Rei's a vegetarian. But the more you look at their personalities and lifestyles, it starts to come together. Both are very simple, minimalist kinds of people who might not even love each other, but would at the very least appreciate each other's company and companionship as fellow travelers in life.


>>138723737

There's probably a doujin out there where Shinji does exactly that. Best I can find is the one where he uses a glue bottle though.
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>>138723896
>a glue bottle
consider me curious
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>>138724302

Why should I spoonfeed you?
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>>138724369
because the cuteness of loli cuddles compels you
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>>138724487
6 years later
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>>138724532
14 years later
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>>138701717
shinji will end up alone because Anno projects himself into the story vicariously through shinji
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>>138724487

I'm not into loli, sorry.
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>>138724567
later than that
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>>138724637
THAT'S NOT NICE!
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>>138724686
why does the eye glow?
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>>138724724
It's Bardiel, straight up.
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>>138724587

I don't really think that's the case. While Anno probably is dealing with his share of issues still, I don't think he has the same haunting feelings of isolation and anomie that bled into the series. It's been over 20 years, Anno can't directly express his inner despair and loneliness through Shinji anymore because a lot of those feelings aren't around anymore. He's changed, and if 2.22 is any indication, Shinji as a character has changed too.
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>>138723069
Who the fuck is Kenji
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>>138724790
u fukin wat
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>>138724854

I meant Kensuke, whoops. Had a brainfart. That's a total crackship btw, I just feel like Misato secretly wants a younger dude and Kensuke likes christmas cakes, and that's pretty much it.
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>>138724965
>Not wanting Misato to be held by Kaji

On the other hand

>Not wanting Rei to learn the meaning of life from Kaji's words of wisdom
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>>138724863
Bardiel. It got all up in her face in 2.22, we didn't see her again until 3.33
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>>138725081

Misato needs to get over Kaji and move on with her life. She can't keep fixating on the past, it's not healthy for her. She loves Kaji not for himself, but because it reminds her of a time when she was happy that she doesn't want to let go of. She needs to be looking forward.

Basically each one of my ships is selected based on what would make each character the happiest and would contribute to them growing as a person. They're optimized for maximum character development, which is why they're pretty much the best.
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>>138725254
Every single ship you listed is unhealthy to some extent. What Misato needs to get over is her father, not Kaji. In fact almost every issue between Kaji and Misato can be solved if Misato's daddy issues weren't involved, that's the entire point. Misato said she's the happiest with Kaji but as soon as she let that happiness shatter because of memories of her father, she ran away.
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>>138724813
I suppose, but I think he will hint at any romance like in the original series but leave the ending purposely ambiguous as per his style. It's just my prediction but hopefully we'll see soon enough
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>>138701414
i have no idea how 3.0 + 1.0 will be.
That's a little exciting to me, but damn, it's going to have to pull off something crazy.
I loved 1 and 2 because it's just straightforward fun Eva action with some more backstory and differences in this version.
It made the story all the more interesting when we realize that it's all just a new cycle of the previous events.

I just don't know what they were going for with 3.0. I didn't hate it, but it disappointed me for sure.
Not because it was different, but because it didn't really express it's difference well.
Next to nothing has been confirmed or properly explained.

The implication of the title says to me that it's going to tell it's story in a more straightforward way.

My theory is that the first two films were just to recap, and explain the differences and to lead us to the new scenario. 3.0 is essentially an intro to this new world, and 3.0 + 1.0 will tell the story proper.

In EoE, shinji made a decision to run away from reality when given the chance, but ended up going back anyway after the unknown amount of time he spent in the ether.
Everything resets, and Shinji's got another chance (or at least whoever Rebuild's shinji is). He finally makes a decision in reality and has to deal with the consequences. 3.0 is him failing at dealing with the consequences.

I forsee 3.0+1.0 to be the true "new beginning" where Shinji creates the world he truly wants, and sticks with it.

Fuck if I know though. Anno's kind of abused storytelling itself to capture our imaginations, and seems to be trying to teach us something real. Not just about the fact that anime and things like that are replacements for reality, but that we ultimately have the power to truly change our surroundings.

I dunno, just stream of conscious rambling right now.
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>>138725550

I think he enjoys trolling everyone, so yeah he'll keep the shipping ambiguous. Plus, making any one ship canon would hurt sales.
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>>138725188
She's called free of cellular contamination immediately after Bardiel.
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>>138725654
True, plus he received death threats for the last two original episodes; I bet he wouldn't want to try his luck shipping the wrong Otaku's waifu
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