Lise had a rough life.
How do you think they're even going to top episode 10 for the finale? Is it possible? They didn't even have
Fortsetzung folgt at the end this time.
PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit
Planned long in advance and organized with care, a cloak-and-dagger operation was begun yesterday to
wrest control of Berlin from the DDR to the BRD in a move that was both illegal and
in breach of international agreements, and surrounded by a large propaganda campaign.
This incident, unprecedented in international life and in the relations that exist between sovereign states,
constitutes open interference in the internal affairs of the DDR and of Katja. Those who are in charge in
West Germany have made and financed this move in spite of all suggestions and warnings, contrary to all
constructive proposals and initiatives on the part of the DDR that were designed to bring about a joint settlement
of the issue. An unbridled malicious campaign of slander was launched against Katja and the DDR, overtly tempting
away and deluding citizens of our state, misusing the opportunities for travel and contacts, with the help of the
mass media and through direct actions.
The MfS would also like to take the time to rememeber the martyrs lost yesterday in anti-terrorsit operations in Berlin;
Lt.Katinka Havener |Ottendorf-Okrilla
Olt.Lise Hohenstein |Berlin
By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.
Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik
Is it possible to get rid of Annette's PTSD by fucking her brains her out?
>Is it possible?
Who /NVA/ here?
You didn't realize Beatrix was voiced by Yukarin?
and Nanjo/Eri from Love Live voicing Lise? Nope
You're blowing my mind here anons.
I wonder if she'll do a song for the OST.
Lise side story from Schwarzesmarken Requiem vol 2
Lise was captured and gangraped by the Stasi.
She wanted to give her first time to her brother.
Told that it was all recorded, and would be shown to her brother unless she does what they say.
She agrees. Axmann (The Stasi Armed Police Security Force "Grey Beast" as per chapter 2) was the one who broke her. He tells her after the first time "Don't worry, I won't be touching you. I'm a guy who likes cleanliness, and after your new friends had fun with you, you're filthy."
She undergoes training to be a fem-fatal sleeper operative, getting her body used to get information for the Stasi. She also ends up being the secret mistress for the Security Force. She believes Axmann planned to us her that way from the start.
Constantly crying for Oni-san to save her when she is alone, but knows her body is too defiled already, having lost count of how many had had her.
After the events in Schwarze with Irisdine getting captured, she is blindfolded in Theodor's arms, apparently before her execution at his hands.
Chapter 35 Lise end.
A bound Lise was ranting about how Theodor should go over to the dark side, in a room filled with other people of the rebellion. Theodor finally accepted that she was too broken and twisted, and after hugging her, put his gun to her head, and squeezed...
Her last words when she was temporally in a lucid state of mind, were "Therefore, forget me... Absolutely, do not remember me. Because this dog of the Stasi, does not exist..."
Katia who was running over to stop him, heard the shot, and a tear fell down to the ground.
Beatrix, Iris, and Katia are my waifus.
>Have you made sure to praise Saint Ursula today?
I feel let down. I really expected more Beatrix/Iris rivalry in this anime.
A notice from the Politische Hauptverwaltung
Those so called "martyrs" are nothing more than counter revolutionary traitors who had been judged and executed by the members of the Commissariat
Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is the best fit for current events, comrades.
It is the girl that appear in this scene
I don't know shit about Muv-Luv, but I'm in the mood for some edgy/tragic animu, is this worth watching ?
Another option is to have the 666th in the first line of a Puhdys concert
>Poland - An Incredible Delicious Sylwia
>Olt.Lise Hohenstein |Berlin
Lisefags, she's never coming back. You will never hold her, comfort her, fix her mind, or make her happy in any way. She is utterly, irretrievably gone, and no amount of complaining, crying, shitposting, or other forms of grieving will bring her back. Walk away from Lise, and never look back. She never deserved your love.
>Muv-Luv Franchise Womens
>Furniture Used With AIDS
So I'm browsing Futaba, and the general opinion among the Japs nowadays seems to be:
> ベアトリクス≧アイリス＞リィズ＞ヴァルター＞テオ≧ファム＞シルヴィアアネット ＞カティア＞グレ子
Why is Gretel and Katia ranked so low over there while they're so loved over here? Is it VN fags vs Anime fags or something?
Katia and Theo have finally managed to arrange a weekend getaway for just themselves, having found a babysitter that will look after their four children for the entire weekend. They return to the cozy bed and breakfast they booked after a nice dinner and a walk through the quaint little town that's just a few hours drive from the academy. Theo parks the car, and heads into the lobby of the bed and breakfast, where the host serves him a glass of cognac while he thumbs through a large format photography book depicting the local woods in various seasons.
Katia, meanwhile, heads up to their room, and after a quick shower, dries off and flicks open her suitcase. She catches a glance of herself in the mirror. She's had four children in four years since leaving the front lines, and the last two were twins. They really did a number on her body. While her tummy is still lean and muscular, it's now covered with loose skin and stretchmarks. It feels a little embarrassing seeing herself like this, and while she knows her husband thinks she's attractive, she doesn't feel particularly sexy. Still, she's prepared. Katia reaches into the bag, and pulls out a light pink silk corset. It's not particularly tight, but it does have the effect of hiding her marred (in her eyes) belly. She accessorizes this with elbow gloves and white stockings that are anchored to the corset with a pair of suspenders. her breasts and privates left totally exposed. A little bit of lipstick and mascara is applied to finish everything off. She examines herself again and hardly recognizes the person staring back at her. Still, she likes what she sees.
Finally, she throws a bathrobe over the entire ensemble, hiding it completely. She slips into a pair of fuzzy pink slippers, and catching herself in the mirror again, she's surprised at how well the robe hides everything. Heart aflutter, she opens the door to her room, and heads down to the lobby to fetch her husband.
Gretel is much bitchier in the VN and for the majority of it until op.Neptune.
Anime Gretel is love.
Katia is always love, I'll just chalk it up to Japan's shit taste, but as a character she lacks conflict like Lise, Beatrix and Iris.
Fuck off back to >>>/AnimeSuki/
He had a shitton of help from the other rebels. Remember that Beatrix pretty much soloed Walter and 4 other members of the 666th and forced them to retreat.
This is the face of someone who died happy.
Maybe, just maybe, the last thing going through her mind was how going through all that pain and suffering had meaning.
I wouldn't really assume what the general consensus is without legit statistics which would probably be impossible for an anonymous board. Samefags and shitposters skew the interpretation of things.
ignore the samefag.
samefage probably copied a random post or adulterated the information.
Iris has too few action scenes, battles with mecha in the light novel.
samefag is a troll.
But why would someone lie in an anonymous board? What's next? Not everything in the internet is the truth
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or what. People always talk shit and lie here for shits and giggles and to get a reaction out of you. The fact that your face is not known makes it easier to hide shit.
Well, they're mostly the same as us:
Guy literally called SM a kusoanime it's handling of Beato.
Which one was alive at the end???
Which one was the winner of the main battles, that were shown in Schwarzesmarken?
irisfags suffer from the same type of mental disability that slainefags suffered.
copy random information from 2ch and adulterate and edit them.
>irisfags suffer from the same type of mental disability that slainefags suffered.
copy random information from 2ch and adulterate and edit them.
The fuck are you even on about? Stop forcing this shit.
Same shit, different language:
>何を持って非処女妹なんか入れたんだ 読者は悲壮感とかどーでもいいんだわ ゲーム後編も3ルート入れるならこいつ除いてキルケたんにしろやそれかベアトたん それなら買ってやらんことも無いｗ
This one is saying he wants a Kirke and Beatrix route in Martyrs.
And just like us, the response is that Beatrix is still in love with Jurgen:
The pride of the DDR auto-motor engineering
I recall reading this very same thing, and just like the other guy said, in that context it was about pilot skill. You can tell even if you don't have the full context by the fact they're including the boys in their rankings.
I can't tell if my informant is trolling me.
I don't see it going for 24 episodes either...
And if it was, their only option is to include BiS to catch up with Beato and Iris' backstories.
There's no reason to stick to one favorite, you can like, two, even 6 characters, they can be completely different in personality, intent and morality.
Example, one can like Beato, Lise, Katia, Ketchup and Pham, these characters are all over the place and that's fine, sticking to one type of character is just plain boring.
>I slept with a girl the same age as me and enjoyed it
Oh god as if she couldn't get any better.
>I slept with a girl the same age as me and enjoyed it
Beatrix is THE main heroine of her story. Even Iris doesn't get that in SM, despite being the canonical love interest. In the anime Iris is just a supporting character without POV with bit of screen time.
Irisdina is a stereotype: ''kuudere robotics ''.
Iris's plot convenience is completely retarded and ridiculous - Anime, Visual Novel and light novel are constantly trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat, using other characters as Irisdina fanboys. The most ridiculous and absurd is that at all times throughout at all history, they constantly use one of the characters to trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat,
Snow White's plot armor - Irisdina is kidnapped and becomes a damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (Theodor) to achieve her rescue.
Irisdina is also the fanservice character of the Light novel and promotional materials.
Good, mabye Theo can finally potty train her.
I wish the anime didn't lowball the fact Katia is the co-protagonist with Theo by downplaying her competence up until the last arc. Not only does she get some of the most key 'standard' MuvLuv MC traits (like being an almost complete newcomer to the conflict with some hidden relations to it, and losing to a grappler) she is the only character besides him to get PoV CGs in the game.
<<It's them, the Demon Lords of East Germany>>
Gretel has more development, internal conflicts, more scenes in visual novel, and more screentime in the anime, than Iris and this is a fact.
irisfag are desperate and shooting all over the place, because your character is a garbage in the visual novel and in anime.
Is she supposed to be Merkel??
Irisfags have to ironically shitpost their own character just to get her attention. Even Walther has more people who care about her than Iris, even if they're just making fun of his pole sitting hobby.
I decided to do a little post digging on what the Japs thought about the end of SM back before BiS came out. So the above post has some very interesting tidbits that mostly reinforce what we already know. Starting with the first post in this image, you have this very important lines. For instances, the first paragraph states all those who died in the final volume. Iris, Axmann, Beatrix, the stasi chief (Schmidt), Walter, and Sylwia. The rest survived! Gretel was saved by an old classmate she had thought the stasi had purged (so Martin, basically).
Second line talks about the similiarities between Iris and Beatrix. Both were women willing to sacrifice themselves for Jurgen's ideals (they didn't have a name back then, so they used Iris's brother to refer to him instead). Walter was friends with Jurgen and Jurgen's death was what created Beatrix's grudge.
The final line mentions Axmann and how he forshadows Theo's transformation into the Master.
Note that this was all way before BiS started (the posts were made back in 2014 when SM ended), so all this should be in the anime if it wasn't a shit adaptation.
Alright, so skipping the second post, the third post is a response to the first. Theo's "But even so, I still wanted to protect you" are actually arc words in the LN, seemingly directed at Iris. I guess the anime changed it to Katia.
The second paragraph refers to Beatrix's goals. Beatrix apparently had a martyr-complex going on that was even bigger then Irisdina. She wanted to reform the DDR into a roadblock for the BETA to buy everyone else time. She did ultimately prioritize humanity over the DDR, while Iris wished to save East Germany no matter what. Much like Iris though, she was a selfless person in the end willing to go to any lengths to do what she felt was right. In this sense, Beatrix is very similar to Yuuko; a woman willing to do monstrous deeds for the benefit of mankind.
It's difficult to tell who was really right in the end though. Heck, Beatrix might have unified Germany anyways. She had a deal going on with the West that Iris wasn't privy too after all.
Of course, we won't be getting any of this in the anime. They only have like two more episodes to explain her motivation and it would be far easier just to go with kooky Beato being evil as fuck.
The final line is basically how Theo being Master is not confirmed. This was, of course, way before the VAs were cast.
I found this >
>Test - Generic Harem Heroine
>( X ) - 01. a plot device to develop the MC.
>( X ) - 02. a plot device that motivates the MC.
>( X ) - 03. MC's main love interest.
>( X ) - 04. becomes a damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (MC) to achieve her rescue.
>( X ) - 05. badly written.
>( X ) - 06. character without POV
>( X ) - 07. character without inner monologues (inner thoughts).
>( X ) - 08. no character development
>( X ) - 09. anime character stereotype.
>( X ) - 10. Kirito's plot convenience - Anime and light novel are constantly trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat, using other characters as Irisdina fanboys. The most ridiculous and absurd is that at all times throughout at all history, they constantly use one of the characters to trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat.
>( X ) - 11. cute waifu.
>( X ) - 12. sexy waifu..
>( X ) - 13. Physically attractive.
>( X ) - 14. big breasts.
>( X ) - 15. big ass
>( X ) - 16. preferred target of waifufags
>( X ) - 17. preferred target of doujin - erotic fanarts - erotic contents.
>( X ) - 18. fanservice character
>( X ) - 19. is the most popular character of the show in MAL.
>Result: Irisdina Bernhard is an Generic Harem Heroine - Kirito's plot convenience - Snow White's plot armor
stop it anon you are just reminding me how much they butchered beato and other characters.
As a skier, that honestly sounds miserable. Vanilla ice cream is delicious, but it is also heavy and sticky, which makes for awful skiing. The best snow is light and fluffy and forgiving, like Lise.
And like Lise, if you go too steep or too deep or try her too soon after a storm, it will fall apart in a jumbled mess and suffocate you under hundreds of tons of love. It might just even pick up a boulder and bash your head in. Be sure to have a shovel, probe and beacon, along with a properly trained buddy if you're going to ski backcountry or ride the Lise.
* irisfags foggots *
Foda-se de volta para >>> / AnimeSuki or MAL
Spinoff? Half the cast of Alternative, including Jesus, was in SEED, so you may as well let him go wild with it.
Wir kampfen fur Deutschland
der Freiheit zur Ehre,
Der Gegner kommt nicht mehr zur Ruh
>all this talk about vanilla ice cream
I'm really confused as to what is going on.
Though now that I think about... some vanilla ice cream would be nice right about now.
* foggots irisfags*
verpiss dich zurück zu >>>AnimeSuki ou MAL
It's unfortunate that posts like these will be lost in all the spamming that's going on right now. Maybe you should repost it for night /a/. They seem more receptive towards this sort of discussion.
VN soon anon
You slide the thin, hanging door open and switch the light on. Gretel yelps, and turns away from the light, curling up on your broken double mattress. As her sponsor, you took the girl in when she was resettled as part of an experimental refugee program, a world away from the war and suffering in Europe. Now, it's time to help her integrate into her new community.
"Gretel, wake up! it's time for your first day of work!"
You pull a pair of black slacks off the floor along with an inexpensive blouse. Gretel crawls into the clothing and you shuffle her out the door. You step out of the trailer into the cold, neverending drizzle, and load her into your 1998 Honda Civic. You hand the girl a cup of Folgers coffee and a package of twinkies, which she eats sleepily. She finishes the coffee as you drive over interstate 5 and onto the Tulalip Indian reservation. You pull into the Quilceda shopping ceter, just south of the casino, and drop her off in front a large blue building. She head to the back, where she puts on a blue vest and nametage she had gotten a few days earlier while she filled out her W-2 and I-8 forms for her new employer. Finally, she heads back to the front of the building, where she begins to chant a greeting to the customers, her eyes glassing over every time she repeats her new catchprase:
"Welcome to Wal-mart! Welcome to Wal-mart!"
>Annette shown to alive and well in contemporary ML works when?
Clearly we need Muv Luv: European Vacation, set in Extraverse.
Bullying Katia is fine.
Bullying Lise is fine.
Even bullying Beatrix is fine.
But bullying Gretel? GRETEL? I will fucking find a special place in the Gulag for your demented kind, after it you'll fucking wish you were living Lise's life.
Hie liez er sich reine toufen,
daz der mensche reine sî.
Dô liez er sich hie verkoufen,
daz wir eigen wurden frî.
Anders wæren wir verlorn.
Wol dir, sper, kriuze unde dorn!
Wê dir, heiden, daz ist dir zorn!
I'm a Lisefag and even I think this goes too far.
Or we could all be decent to each other.
There's a line you should've never crossed and yet you did, anon.
Na dann halt
Es zittern die morschen Knochen
Der Welt vor dem großen Krieg
Wir haben den Schrecken gebrochen
Für uns war's ein großer Sieg
Wir werden weiter marschieren
Bis alles in Scherben fällt
Denn heute da hört uns Deutschland
Und morgen die ganze Welt
>Bullying Katia is fine.
>that one cockpit rape fic
Don't remind me.
Slaine Troyard was willing to sacrifice themselves for Asseylum-hime's ideals (Slaine didn't have a name back then, so they used Asseylum-hime to refer to him instead)
The second paragraph refers to Slaine Troyard's goals. Slaine Troyard apparently had a martyr-complex going on that was even bigger then Asseylum-hime. He wanted to reform Mars into a roadblock for the Counts to buy everyone else time. He did ultimately prioritize princess over the humanity, then he wanted to create a new empire to save lower-class Martians no matter what. Much like his former delirium. though, Slane Troyard was a stupid, crazy and delusional in the end willing to go to any lengths to do what she felt was right.
In this sense, Slaine Troyard is very similar Jurgen, Beatrix and Iris; people retarded, hallucinated, delirious and stupid that have dreams and ideals created by delusions and hallucinations by their sick minds.
Gabarge as Beatrix, Jugen, Slaine, Iris and Bizon, always end in the worst way and fucked, along with your shit dreams and your retarded ideals.
It is the law of nature.
At the end only the strong and smart survive.
This joke was so obvious yet I still laughed.
The BETA are just asylum seekers from beyond the solar system, you know, looking for a better life and all that shit.
I can't believe how much just a little positive Beato/Lise interaction could have helped the anime convey a core aspect of their characters.
I want to sleep with Kirke chan!
Her bum is cute.
Kirke and Annette shown being the best of mates in contemporary ML when?
Shes pretty great, caught herself a great fine too.
The best part is, there it's literally no bullying going on here at all. She was evacuated from a war zone, taken in by a host family, and given a job. The only things that are bad here is that the host family is poor and the job isn't very desirable.
It's a nice ass
>This is your last stand, NO doubt, NO fear!
Inghild had a man, Anette is still fair game.
But it's so much better. It shows how broken poor anime Lise was by the Stasi. At least with LN Lise you can kind of make the argument that she didn't 'really' deserve his dick despite doing all those things for him because she had Beatrix. Anime Lise had nobody at all. She couldn't even believe in hope. The reason she got so angry at Iris was because she didn't believe in the hope that she represented. She deserved to have her onii-chan's D, and she deserved to die with a smile, instead of the torture/forced execution that LN Lise got.
Still, Theo totally should've held her hand.
>should've held her hand
Can't argue with that.
Don't embarrass soldier-kun he's very sensitive about it
Hope not, waste of a damn good bosom.
He probably caught her on the rebound.
A man can have his tastes, both his stepsister and stepmother were blondes, thats gonna do something to you.
Funny how the world works
Theo knew Annette, Inghild and their group of friends back from flight school.
Then they all reunited in the 666th a year after graduation.
And then Annette ends being the only one surviving past January 1983
That's dirty capitalism life for you, she should have stayed at home, surrounded by the people's socialism, that which empowers her and gives her strength to live in this shitty world.
Did the shit posters finally go away comrades?
Can I finally post Beato-san again and relax with my bros?
Well he outright tells the reader in the VN that he knew that both his and her feelings extended beyond that of a brother and sister back then.
I imagine if the dense one could tell so could she.
Beatrix and I would adopt Lise and make her normal again!
>I'm gonna imouto the fuck out of you
A little more fleshing out of the characters would have done wonders.
Fine then! I will fix both of them!
With Beatrix's cooking I can never lose!
Why is this director such a hack? He couldn't even begin to make the personality of characters consistent, not like it was ambiguous, they were fleshed out in two different mediums.
I still don't know who got fucked over worse.
Lise, her plan has no fucking sense if she has no relationship with Beatrix
Iris, literally who
Beatrix, what the soaring fuck happened here
They're all awful though.
When Theo slept with Lise, was that one off?
Had Lise not gone full crazy, would they have been in a relationship?
Imagine strolling around the base with every talking about how you're fucking your sister.
Step-sister, but yeah they fucked one night and then everyone got fucked soon after.
He knew what he was doing when he brought a such a strong, handsome young man into his house.