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Lise had a rough life.
How do you think they're even going to top episode 10 for the finale? Is it possible? They didn't even have
Fortsetzung folgt at the end this time.
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PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit

Planned long in advance and organized with care, a cloak-and-dagger operation was begun yesterday to
wrest control of Berlin from the DDR to the BRD in a move that was both illegal and
in breach of international agreements, and surrounded by a large propaganda campaign.

This incident, unprecedented in international life and in the relations that exist between sovereign states,
constitutes open interference in the internal affairs of the DDR and of Katja. Those who are in charge in
West Germany have made and financed this move in spite of all suggestions and warnings, contrary to all
constructive proposals and initiatives on the part of the DDR that were designed to bring about a joint settlement
of the issue. An unbridled malicious campaign of slander was launched against Katja and the DDR, overtly tempting
away and deluding citizens of our state, misusing the opportunities for travel and contacts, with the help of the
mass media and through direct actions.

The MfS would also like to take the time to rememeber the martyrs lost yesterday in anti-terrorsit operations in Berlin;

Lt.AlbertHüber|Dessau
Sdt.ArturLewerentz|Karl-Marx-Stadt
Lt.Clara Biermann|Halle(Saale)
Gefr.EckehardDieter|Berlin
StFw.ErhardWirt|Schwerin
Olt.Franka Krämer|Gera
Hptm.Gregor Boesch|Waren
Sdt.HagenKoenig|Gielow
Lt.JosephBöhmer|Thallwitz
Sdt.JosephLorentz|Berlin
Lt.Judith Bernat|Großschirma
Lt.Katinka Havener |Ottendorf-Okrilla
Lt.Leni Meyer|Görmin
Olt.Lise Hohenstein |Berlin
Gefr.MatthäusHerbert|Jena
Lt.Miriam Gros|Postdam
Sdt.ReimundHermann|Leipzig
Sdt.SigmundBerger|Erfurt

By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.

Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik
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Anette is cute
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>>138638271
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REMOVE STASI
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Is it possible to get rid of Annette's PTSD by fucking her brains her out?
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>>138638428
>fucking a little boy
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>>138638233
>Is it possible?
Yes.
Kill Katia.
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>>138638364
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>>138638440
One of the few scenes where anime Beatrix was cute.
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>>138638440
If there's one thing I can appreciate about anime Beatrix, it's reminding me just how deep Yukarin can make her voice.
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>>138638233
what I really want to know is what she said when only her lips moved and the audio was gone.

Why do animes have to do this?
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>>138638440
>East Germany
>extremely high tech battlefield surveillance
>interface in English
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>>138638233
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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI
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>>138638482
>Yukarin
Wait...

WHAT.
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>>138638538
You didn't know?
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>>138638538
You didn't realize Beatrix was voiced by Yukarin?
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>>138638515
We need more teleprinters
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>>138638233
Well, at least she got the D
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>>138638538
Also Lise's VA is the lead singer of Fripside.
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I'm excited for lewd Katia CGs in Martyrs.
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>>138638538
and Nanjo/Eri from Love Live voicing Lise? Nope
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>>138638538

Best VA for the best girl:

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/wac/index.htm?process=7&escurl=../character10_esc.html
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>>138638538
I bet you didn't know Katia was a Jersey Fairy and the sole reason to endure the dramafest that was Hanayamata.
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>>138638611
and TV's
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>>138638502
DAISUKI
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>>138638634
>>138638590
>>138638584
>>138638671
>>138638690
>>138638708
You're blowing my mind here anons.

I wonder if she'll do a song for the OST.
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>>138638760
She might do one for Martyrs, especially if Lise, Katia, and Iris get image songs.
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Lise side story from Schwarzesmarken Requiem vol 2

Lise was captured and gangraped by the Stasi.
She wanted to give her first time to her brother.
Told that it was all recorded, and would be shown to her brother unless she does what they say.
She agrees. Axmann (The Stasi Armed Police Security Force "Grey Beast" as per chapter 2) was the one who broke her. He tells her after the first time "Don't worry, I won't be touching you. I'm a guy who likes cleanliness, and after your new friends had fun with you, you're filthy."
She undergoes training to be a fem-fatal sleeper operative, getting her body used to get information for the Stasi. She also ends up being the secret mistress for the Security Force. She believes Axmann planned to us her that way from the start.
Constantly crying for Oni-san to save her when she is alone, but knows her body is too defiled already, having lost count of how many had had her.
After the events in Schwarze with Irisdine getting captured, she is blindfolded in Theodor's arms, apparently before her execution at his hands.
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Yui, Inia and Cryska are my waifus.
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>>138638725
It looked a lot longer than that though
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>>138638845
I think she said aishiteru
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>>138638760

haremshit
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Chapter 35 Lise end.

A bound Lise was ranting about how Theodor should go over to the dark side, in a room filled with other people of the rebellion. Theodor finally accepted that she was too broken and twisted, and after hugging her, put his gun to her head, and squeezed...

Her last words when she was temporally in a lucid state of mind, were "Therefore, forget me... Absolutely, do not remember me. Because this dog of the Stasi, does not exist..."

Katia who was running over to stop him, heard the shot, and a tear fell down to the ground.
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>>138638793
They'll probably get to sing the ED of their respective route.
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>>138638844
Beatrix, Iris, and Katia are my waifus.
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>>138638844
>multiple waifus
>picture for ants
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>>138638845
ich liebe dich
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>>138638634
Ok I didn't know that one
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>>138638979
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>>138638233
>Have you made sure to praise Saint Ursula today?
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>>138638979
I feel let down. I really expected more Beatrix/Iris rivalry in this anime.
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>>138638271
A notice from the Politische Hauptverwaltung
Those so called "martyrs" are nothing more than counter revolutionary traitors who had been judged and executed by the members of the Commissariat
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>>138638979
>background characters
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>>138639072
Who the heck is Iris?
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>>138638828
>>138638926
>Posting wiki copypaste

For what purpose
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music

Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is the best fit for current events, comrades.
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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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>>138639109

It is the girl that appear in this scene
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>>138639180
Also, have some state-approved rock band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOnrG8WHHUU [Embed]
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>>138639180
Also, Puhdys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de4mdi7157I
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>>138639072
>>138638979

*foggots irisfags*
Fuck off back to >>>/AnimeSuki
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>>138639225
>>138639249
Puhdysmind
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajcq8ez6q8Y

Stay vigilant against imperialistic aggression, comrades.
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>>138639291
Indeed. Those guys rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQFWNhiHEEY
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>>138639281
Hey now they ain't hurtin noone
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What's with Sylwia and the other Schwarzesmarken guy? They have gotten no development at all yet.
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I don't know shit about Muv-Luv, but I'm in the mood for some edgy/tragic animu, is this worth watching ?
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>>138639352
Don`t you have more gay porn to star in?
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>>138639334
Commissar Gretel just got the Puhdy's last album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
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>>138639408
666 headbang.gif

FUND IT
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>>138639352
>some edgy/tragic animu
I think this qualifies, yeah. And you don't really need to know anything about ML to watch this anyway.
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>>138639343

Poland - AIDS
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>>138639559
>White bra

wat happned to that bra, since that day she seems to no wear bra at all.
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>>138639352

>you are a faggot
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>>138639491
pls do
Another option is to have the 666th in the first line of a Puhdys concert
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>>138639600
They rubbed her polands so much no bra could ever hold them afterwards
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>>138639559
>Poland - An Incredible Delicious Sylwia
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>>138639652
Dadrock is the best rock.
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>martyrs lost
>Olt.Lise Hohenstein |Berlin
Lisefags, she's never coming back. You will never hold her, comfort her, fix her mind, or make her happy in any way. She is utterly, irretrievably gone, and no amount of complaining, crying, shitposting, or other forms of grieving will bring her back. Walk away from Lise, and never look back. She never deserved your love.
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>>138639842
Yes, she deserved something better than our love but that's all we can give to her. Lise will forever live in our hearts
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>>138639842
Hi again. VN
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Is this it? Are humans only made to live, suffer and die?
For what purpose do we exist?
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>>138638502
Another anon said what it was in the thread when the last episode aired.

I think it was something like "I love you onii-chan"
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>>138638502
Shirou is the red man
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>>138639962
Go make some burgers Kaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z2SHl-m5wQ
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>>138639962
I'M ALREADY A HAMBURGER, KAZ
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>>138639559

>Muv-Luv Franchise Womens
>Furniture Used With AIDS
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>>138638502
You're waifu a shit
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So I'm browsing Futaba, and the general opinion among the Japs nowadays seems to be:

> ベアトリクス≧アイリス>リィズ>ヴァルター>テオ≧ファム>シルヴィアアネット >カティア>グレ子
大体こんな印象

Why is Gretel and Katia ranked so low over there while they're so loved over here? Is it VN fags vs Anime fags or something?
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>>138640020
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>>138640254
It`s far simpler, anon.
Boobs.
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>>138640254
hey hey let's not make generalizations yet.
I'm a VN fag and I love Katia the most
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>>138638364
>>138638448
>>138638620

Katia and Theo have finally managed to arrange a weekend getaway for just themselves, having found a babysitter that will look after their four children for the entire weekend. They return to the cozy bed and breakfast they booked after a nice dinner and a walk through the quaint little town that's just a few hours drive from the academy. Theo parks the car, and heads into the lobby of the bed and breakfast, where the host serves him a glass of cognac while he thumbs through a large format photography book depicting the local woods in various seasons.

Katia, meanwhile, heads up to their room, and after a quick shower, dries off and flicks open her suitcase. She catches a glance of herself in the mirror. She's had four children in four years since leaving the front lines, and the last two were twins. They really did a number on her body. While her tummy is still lean and muscular, it's now covered with loose skin and stretchmarks. It feels a little embarrassing seeing herself like this, and while she knows her husband thinks she's attractive, she doesn't feel particularly sexy. Still, she's prepared. Katia reaches into the bag, and pulls out a light pink silk corset. It's not particularly tight, but it does have the effect of hiding her marred (in her eyes) belly. She accessorizes this with elbow gloves and white stockings that are anchored to the corset with a pair of suspenders. her breasts and privates left totally exposed. A little bit of lipstick and mascara is applied to finish everything off. She examines herself again and hardly recognizes the person staring back at her. Still, she likes what she sees.

Finally, she throws a bathrobe over the entire ensemble, hiding it completely. She slips into a pair of fuzzy pink slippers, and catching herself in the mirror again, she's surprised at how well the robe hides everything. Heart aflutter, she opens the door to her room, and heads down to the lobby to fetch her husband.
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>>138640254
Gretel is much bitchier in the VN and for the majority of it until op.Neptune.
Anime Gretel is love.
Katia is always love, I'll just chalk it up to Japan's shit taste, but as a character she lacks conflict like Lise, Beatrix and Iris.
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>>138640254
I was just in that thread. I think he's ranking pilot skill:

Beatrix ≧ Iris> Lise> Walther> Theo ≧ Pham> Sylvia = Annette> Katya> Gretel

Pretty accurate assessment, really.
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>>138640254

*foggots irisfags*
Fuck off back to >>>/AnimeSuki/
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>>138640323
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>>138640329
Walther fuck up Beato though and should be much more experienced that Lise.
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>>138640329
>Lise third.

Impressive taste Japan.
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>>138640412
Jesus, I should really go to sleep.

Walther fucks up Beato though and should be much more experienced than Lise.
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>>138640412
He had a shitton of help from the other rebels. Remember that Beatrix pretty much soloed Walter and 4 other members of the 666th and forced them to retreat.
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>>138640452
>By Lenin how I want to fuck my sister
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This is the face of someone who died happy.
Maybe, just maybe, the last thing going through her mind was how going through all that pain and suffering had meaning.
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Lise died, no one cried
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>>138640560
Beatrix and Sylwia won't be getting anywhere near as peaceful of a death, especially poor Beatrix.
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>>138640560
That's the face of someone who died so delusional
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>>138640254
I wouldn't really assume what the general consensus is without legit statistics which would probably be impossible for an anonymous board. Samefags and shitposters skew the interpretation of things.
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>>138640323
I love you, Right Not So Sadist Anon.
Could you write more in the same vein?
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>>138640560
That VA work was really fine, from both siblings.
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>>138640254
>>138640329
>>138640467

ignore the samefag.
samefage probably copied a random post or adulterated the information.
Iris has too few action scenes, battles with mecha in the light novel.
samefag is a troll.
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>>138640452
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>>138640799
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>>138640723
But why would someone lie in an anonymous board? What's next? Not everything in the internet is the truth
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>>138640799
He failed to protect that smile.
She protected his smile though, for once the gender roles changed.
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>>138640560
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>>138640877
F
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>>138640862
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>>138640877
Alt+F4
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>>138640877
F
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>>138640560
I hope she's happy with her Onii-chan and that imouto she always wanted in the extraverse.
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>>138640877
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>>138640844
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or what. People always talk shit and lie here for shits and giggles and to get a reaction out of you. The fact that your face is not known makes it easier to hide shit.
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>>138640994
>tumblr

What are you doing.
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>>138641065
memeing
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>>138640329
>>138640254
http://hanabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/magazin/1448737163/

Well, they're mostly the same as us:

露骨にキモウトベアト優遇してるクソアニメ。

Guy literally called SM a kusoanime it's handling of Beato.
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>>138640254
>>138640329

samefag
Which one was alive at the end???
Which one was the winner of the main battles, that were shown in Schwarzesmarken?

irisfags suffer from the same type of mental disability that slainefags suffered.
copy random information from 2ch and adulterate and edit them.
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>>138640971
Soon.
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>>138641145
Who is that brown semen demon?
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>>138641131
They aren't wrong at all, Beatrix is barely a character in the anime, she's more like a american hero cartoon villain.
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>>138641157
I really want them to adopt Katia.
That'd be one hell of a threesome, especially since Lise's bi.
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Why can't Japan produce more anime like this?

I am quite tired of School Harem #145323.
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>>138641157
Katia is not a dog, stop patting her like that.
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>>138641246
Not nevessary like SM, but period pieces would sure be nice.
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How do the nips usually rank the girls from the original triology?
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>>138641145
>irisfags suffer from the same type of mental disability that slainefags suffered.
copy random information from 2ch and adulterate and edit them.

The fuck are you even on about? Stop forcing this shit.
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>>138641259
She's the cutest dog this side ofthe Eastern Hemisphere
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>>138641230
>Lise's bi.

Gonna need proof of that.
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>tfw travant
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>>138641290
Just ignore him.
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>>138641278
Iris, Beatrix, Lise, usually with Iris being first.
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>>138641196
Same shit, different language:

>何を持って非処女妹なんか入れたんだ 読者は悲壮感とかどーでもいいんだわ ゲーム後編も3ルート入れるならこいつ除いてキルケたんにしろやそれかベアトたん それなら買ってやらんことも無いw
This one is saying he wants a Kirke and Beatrix route in Martyrs.

And just like us, the response is that Beatrix is still in love with Jurgen:
ベアはユルゲン(故人)に操を立てているからねぇーよ。
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>>138641310
The pride of the DDR auto-motor engineering
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>>138640254
I recall reading this very same thing, and just like the other guy said, in that context it was about pilot skill. You can tell even if you don't have the full context by the fact they're including the boys in their rankings.
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>>138641297
All they have is one citation where she says she once slept with a girl. If she liked it or not is unknown.
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>>138641341
Dammit Japan what's with your Saber obsession.
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>>138641259
That's not what she herself thinks
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Is it really confirmed this anime is 1 cour?
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>>138641297
In Requiem, there's her monologue about how she loves Beatrix. There's also her whole "I slept with a girl the same age as me and enjoyed it" line.
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>>138641189
waifufag who prefers 2d women
as >>138641290 >>138641131 >>138640254
>>138640329

they use shitposting to force their waifushit in others anons.
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>>138641422
Of course its already in its last arc
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>>138641422
Yes.
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>>138641394
It depends on who you poll. SM readers like Iris, VN readers either go for Iris or Lise, SM+BiS readers go for Beatrix, and anime watchers go for Gretel.
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>>138641394
Iris doesn't remind me of Saber.
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posting best girls.
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I cant wait for the penetration time!
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>>138641189

That's Saki from ShindoL's Emergence series. It's pretty depressing.
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>>138641517
>>138641543
I can't tell if my informant is trolling me.
I don't see it going for 24 episodes either...
And if it was, their only option is to include BiS to catch up with Beato and Iris' backstories.
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>>138641557
There's no reason to stick to one favorite, you can like, two, even 6 characters, they can be completely different in personality, intent and morality.
Example, one can like Beato, Lise, Katia, Ketchup and Pham, these characters are all over the place and that's fine, sticking to one type of character is just plain boring.
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>>138641626
Sure
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>>138641438
>I slept with a girl the same age as me and enjoyed it

Oh god as if she couldn't get any better.
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>>138641740
Ignore the Chinaman taking polls as absolutes.
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>>138640560
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>>138641438
>I slept with a girl the same age as me and enjoyed it
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>>138641603

Beatrix is THE main heroine of her story. Even Iris doesn't get that in SM, despite being the canonical love interest. In the anime Iris is just a supporting character without POV with bit of screen time.

Irisdina is a stereotype: ''kuudere robotics ''.

Iris's plot convenience is completely retarded and ridiculous - Anime, Visual Novel and light novel are constantly trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat, using other characters as Irisdina fanboys. The most ridiculous and absurd is that at all times throughout at all history, they constantly use one of the characters to trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat,

Snow White's plot armor - Irisdina is kidnapped and becomes a damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (Theodor) to achieve her rescue.

Irisdina is also the fanservice character of the Light novel and promotional materials.
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>>138641397
Good, mabye Theo can finally potty train her.
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>>138641823
I bet she actually enjoyed at least one of those dickings even if she doesn't admit it to herself.
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>>138641854
yeah but at least snow white lives at the end of her story
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>>138641936

I wish the anime didn't lowball the fact Katia is the co-protagonist with Theo by downplaying her competence up until the last arc. Not only does she get some of the most key 'standard' MuvLuv MC traits (like being an almost complete newcomer to the conflict with some hidden relations to it, and losing to a grappler) she is the only character besides him to get PoV CGs in the game.
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>>138641883
She enjoyed all of it, including her first time.
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<<It's them, the Demon Lords of East Germany>>
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>>138641998
<<What eight grader thought this was a good idea>>
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>>138642046
>taking shit about the demon lord

FITE ME
1VS1
B7R
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>>138641557

Gretel also.
Gretel has more development, internal conflicts, more scenes in visual novel, and more screentime in the anime, than Iris and this is a fact.
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Delicious commissar armpits
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>>138642191
Best girl
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>>138642287
I'll lick dem armpits
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irisfag are desperate and shooting all over the place, because your character is a garbage in the visual novel and in anime.
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>>138642348
Irisfags don't get butthurt and make new threads
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>>138641700
fug
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>>138642360
Good one
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Is she supposed to be Merkel??
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>>138642684
No, if she would be Merkel, she just open the fort and let the BETA pass
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>>138642346
Those armpits are mine and mine alone
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>>138641557

anon is more liar than Pinocchio.
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>>138642733
KEK
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>>138642463

Irisfags have to ironically shitpost their own character just to get her attention. Even Walther has more people who care about her than Iris, even if they're just making fun of his pole sitting hobby.
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>>138642776
I will duel you for that
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>>138642684
if that's what a 30-year-old looks to you then yes
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>>138642360
you wrong
irisfags use the same methods retarded - used by slainefags in the threads AZ.
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>>138642463
>shit on Beatrix
Okay
>shit on Iris
Okay
>shit on Anett
Okay
>shit on Katia
Okay
>shit on Sylwia
Okay
>shit on Lise
make a new thread and pad it with posts
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>anti-irisfags starting waifuwars over nothing
meanwhile the katia and lise images just keep on rolling

at least keep your false flagging to yourselves
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>this guy reposting things like a fucking bot
It's getting pretty creepy.
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>>138643039
Ice-cream?, I love ice-cream
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>>138643064
ya , my favorite flavor is vanilla
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>>138643000
>still not admitting it was the awful edgemaster OP that was the problem
not surprised to be honest
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>>138643113
Ya, that stuff is good, sometimes I dream about snowboarding through a valley of vanilla ice cream
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今更柴犬の最終巻読破。
全滅ENDは免れたが、案の定、アイリスが逝ってもうた。アクスマンとベアトリクス、シュタージ長官、ヴォルター、シルヴィアは死亡。残りは生存。名前明示されてないが、作中でグレーテルの窮地を救ったのはレクイエムでシュタージに粛清されたと思われてたグレーテルの同級生。
ベアトリクスの根っこはアイリスと同じように自己犠牲の精神なんだね。アイリスの兄やヴォルターとも接点があったみたいだけど、具体的なことは明かされず。方法論の違いからアイリスと決別したのと、アイリス兄をアイリスが密告した件を恨んでる。

アクスマンは米ソがドイツの統合を許すはずがないと言っているが、これがテロドール化の伏線なんだろうか?

I decided to do a little post digging on what the Japs thought about the end of SM back before BiS came out. So the above post has some very interesting tidbits that mostly reinforce what we already know. Starting with the first post in this image, you have this very important lines. For instances, the first paragraph states all those who died in the final volume. Iris, Axmann, Beatrix, the stasi chief (Schmidt), Walter, and Sylwia. The rest survived! Gretel was saved by an old classmate she had thought the stasi had purged (so Martin, basically).

Second line talks about the similiarities between Iris and Beatrix. Both were women willing to sacrifice themselves for Jurgen's ideals (they didn't have a name back then, so they used Iris's brother to refer to him instead). Walter was friends with Jurgen and Jurgen's death was what created Beatrix's grudge.

The final line mentions Axmann and how he forshadows Theo's transformation into the Master.

Note that this was all way before BiS started (the posts were made back in 2014 when SM ended), so all this should be in the anime if it wasn't a shit adaptation.
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Ice-cream? I love ice-cream!
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>>138643207

>まさかBETAに食われた?
アクスマンの銃撃からカティアを庇って重傷。テオに看取られながら、崩壊したベルリンの壁を見届けて息を引き取る。その後1巻の冒頭にあった「それでも君を守りたいと思ったんだ」のテオのセリフに続く。

>アイリスもベアトも東西統一を願っていたということか。
テオドールはベアトリクスの自己犠牲の精神を、自他を巻き込んだ究極のものと評した。
ベアトリクスの目的はドイツの統一どころか、BETA戦争に特化した国を作ってBETAの脅威に対抗するというもの。
東ドイツそのものを全人類の為にBETA戦争に捧げるって所がアイリスと決別した決定的な部分なのだと思われる。
アイリスの救済の対象が東ドイツ国民なのの対し、ベアトリクスは全人類だったと言うべきか。


エピローグ見る限り、テオドール=マスターが確定したわけではない。仮にそうだとしても、そうなるまでにかなり時間が掛るんじゃなかろうか。

Alright, so skipping the second post, the third post is a response to the first. Theo's "But even so, I still wanted to protect you" are actually arc words in the LN, seemingly directed at Iris. I guess the anime changed it to Katia.

The second paragraph refers to Beatrix's goals. Beatrix apparently had a martyr-complex going on that was even bigger then Irisdina. She wanted to reform the DDR into a roadblock for the BETA to buy everyone else time. She did ultimately prioritize humanity over the DDR, while Iris wished to save East Germany no matter what. Much like Iris though, she was a selfless person in the end willing to go to any lengths to do what she felt was right. In this sense, Beatrix is very similar to Yuuko; a woman willing to do monstrous deeds for the benefit of mankind.

It's difficult to tell who was really right in the end though. Heck, Beatrix might have unified Germany anyways. She had a deal going on with the West that Iris wasn't privy too after all.

Of course, we won't be getting any of this in the anime. They only have like two more episodes to explain her motivation and it would be far easier just to go with kooky Beato being evil as fuck.

The final line is basically how Theo being Master is not confirmed. This was, of course, way before the VAs were cast.
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I found this >

>Test - Generic Harem Heroine

>( X ) - 01. a plot device to develop the MC.
>( X ) - 02. a plot device that motivates the MC.
>( X ) - 03. MC's main love interest.
>( X ) - 04. becomes a damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (MC) to achieve her rescue.
>( X ) - 05. badly written.
>( X ) - 06. character without POV
>( X ) - 07. character without inner monologues (inner thoughts).
>( X ) - 08. no character development
>( X ) - 09. anime character stereotype.
>( X ) - 10. Kirito's plot convenience - Anime and light novel are constantly trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat, using other characters as Irisdina fanboys. The most ridiculous and absurd is that at all times throughout at all history, they constantly use one of the characters to trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat.
>( X ) - 11. cute waifu.
>( X ) - 12. sexy waifu..
>( X ) - 13. Physically attractive.
>( X ) - 14. big breasts.
>( X ) - 15. big ass
>( X ) - 16. preferred target of waifufags
>( X ) - 17. preferred target of doujin - erotic fanarts - erotic contents.
>( X ) - 18. fanservice character
>( X ) - 19. is the most popular character of the show in MAL.

>Result: Irisdina Bernhard is an Generic Harem Heroine - Kirito's plot convenience - Snow White's plot armor
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>>138643219
DiDD someone say ice crEam??
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>>138643279
The IRC is pretty creepy these days.
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>>138643147
Imagine Fukuda directing a ML spinoff
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>>138643130
>still not admitting that you were butthurt
not surprised to be honest
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>>138643363
Same script writer.

>>138643207
>>138643247
So just further confirmation how they bungled Beatrix.
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>>138643279
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.
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>>138643247
stop it anon you are just reminding me how much they butchered beato and other characters.
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>>138643402
It's not the same

Imagine the Italian Stallion doing spy things and being literal Jesus
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>>138643363
Honestly? Fukuda would be THE perfect choice of director for the Trilogy.
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>>138643194

As a skier, that honestly sounds miserable. Vanilla ice cream is delicious, but it is also heavy and sticky, which makes for awful skiing. The best snow is light and fluffy and forgiving, like Lise.

And like Lise, if you go too steep or too deep or try her too soon after a storm, it will fall apart in a jumbled mess and suffocate you under hundreds of tons of love. It might just even pick up a boulder and bash your head in. Be sure to have a shovel, probe and beacon, along with a properly trained buddy if you're going to ski backcountry or ride the Lise.
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>>138643557
>He lost it.
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>>138643279

this test was posted in reddit (2009).
It was made to Taiga (Toradora!)
has a in MAL more is incomplete.
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>>138643597
Stasi fucking shits
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>>138643551
Not the anon you were talking to, but now I wanna go back and play the SSX games.
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>>138643247
>>138643247

* irisfags foggots *
Foda-se de volta para >>> / AnimeSuki or MAL
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>>138643557
>>138643641
Will turn her into a capitalist and she'll be a Wall Street shark
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>>138643678
fuck off
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>>138643363
Spinoff? Half the cast of Alternative, including Jesus, was in SEED, so you may as well let him go wild with it.
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>>138643247
>>138643207

*irisfags foggots*
vaffanculo torna a >>> / AnimeSuki ou MAL
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>>138643733

DESU, making Gretel work as a walmart ASM would be the ultimate form of mindbreak.
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Wir kampfen fur Deutschland
der Freiheit zur Ehre,
Der Gegner kommt nicht mehr zur Ruh
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>all this talk about vanilla ice cream

I'm really confused as to what is going on.

Though now that I think about... some vanilla ice cream would be nice right about now.
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>>138643894
I think Gretel would make a very successful businesswoman, very very rich

Worth billions and billions of dollars

We'll build the best properties in the world
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>>138643894
fuck
you
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* foggots irisfags*
verpiss dich zurück zu >>>AnimeSuki ou MAL
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>>138643924
Ice-cream?, I love ice-cream
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>>138643924
ya, my favorite flavor is vanilla!
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>>138643745
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>>138643207
>>138643247
It's unfortunate that posts like these will be lost in all the spamming that's going on right now. Maybe you should repost it for night /a/. They seem more receptive towards this sort of discussion.
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>>138644105
Fuck you
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>>138643408
Look at it this way. If we had the real Beatrix on screen, most of us would be absolutely devastated when she died. At least this way, we can be happy when Theo stabs her.
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Annette shown to alive and well in contemporary ML works when?

Fucking fit MILF she'll be.

>>138638331
You will never take Annette to a love hotel after a lovely date.

;_;
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>>138644477
>love hotel

Proper place for a proper whore, make sure to bring change
>>
OSSIS INS GAS
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>>138644477
VN soon anon
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>>138643949


You slide the thin, hanging door open and switch the light on. Gretel yelps, and turns away from the light, curling up on your broken double mattress. As her sponsor, you took the girl in when she was resettled as part of an experimental refugee program, a world away from the war and suffering in Europe. Now, it's time to help her integrate into her new community.

"Gretel, wake up! it's time for your first day of work!"

You pull a pair of black slacks off the floor along with an inexpensive blouse. Gretel crawls into the clothing and you shuffle her out the door. You step out of the trailer into the cold, neverending drizzle, and load her into your 1998 Honda Civic. You hand the girl a cup of Folgers coffee and a package of twinkies, which she eats sleepily. She finishes the coffee as you drive over interstate 5 and onto the Tulalip Indian reservation. You pull into the Quilceda shopping ceter, just south of the casino, and drop her off in front a large blue building. She head to the back, where she puts on a blue vest and nametage she had gotten a few days earlier while she filled out her W-2 and I-8 forms for her new employer. Finally, she heads back to the front of the building, where she begins to chant a greeting to the customers, her eyes glassing over every time she repeats her new catchprase:

"Welcome to Wal-mart! Welcome to Wal-mart!"
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>>138644541
what is this
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>>138644576
>Gretel becomes a manager
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>>138644576
Triggered
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>>138644477
>Annette shown to alive and well in contemporary ML works when?
Clearly we need Muv Luv: European Vacation, set in Extraverse.
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>>138644576
DELETE THIS
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>>138644588
a polack showing germans the joys of suanas
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>>138640560
I'm fairly sure the last thing going through her mind was a bullet.
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>>138643905
Wir kämpfen für Deutschland,
Wir kämpfen für Hitler,
Der Rote kommt nicht mehr zur Ruh.

ftfy
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>>138644576
I can't believe this.
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>>138644576
Your finest work.
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>>138644576
I'll have you ninja punched for this, soldier.
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>>138644576
Somehow that's more depressing than any of the torture porn you've written so far.
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>>138644576
Bullying Katia is fine.
Bullying Lise is fine.
Even bullying Beatrix is fine.

But bullying Gretel? GRETEL? I will fucking find a special place in the Gulag for your demented kind, after it you'll fucking wish you were living Lise's life.
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>>138644659
Hie liez er sich reine toufen,
daz der mensche reine sî.
Dô liez er sich hie verkoufen,
daz wir eigen wurden frî.
Anders wæren wir verlorn.
Wol dir, sper, kriuze unde dorn!
Wê dir, heiden, daz ist dir zorn!
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Sumika is not for _________
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>>138644757
This
>>138644775
loving
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>people going NUCLEAR over Gretel bullying

I love you guys
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>>138643990
Why he emanes such a gay aura around him.
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>>138644763
Das Palestinalied sollst du nett aufzählen du depp. Unser Herr und meister würde sich hier trocken weinen, bei der dummheit dieser weiber.
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>>138644837
It's time for Gretelfags to face the pain.
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>>138644576
I'm a Lisefag and even I think this goes too far.
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>>138644865
It's not my fault that your waifu dies
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>>138644839
Because he has a thing for wieners and buns.
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>>138644576
YOU FUCKING MONSTER
I'LL FUCKING HUNT YOU DOWN AND KILL YOU
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>>138644865
Or we could all be decent to each other.
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>>138644576
There's a line you should've never crossed and yet you did, anon.
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>>138644864
Na dann halt
Es zittern die morschen Knochen
Der Welt vor dem großen Krieg
Wir haben den Schrecken gebrochen
Für uns war's ein großer Sieg

Wir werden weiter marschieren
Bis alles in Scherben fällt
Denn heute da hört uns Deutschland
Und morgen die ganze Welt
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>>138644576
Triggered level: Nuclear
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>>138644757
>Bullying Katia is fine.
hahahahahaha
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>>138644995
Besser Junge, viel besser.
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>>138645007
I swear I'm Genosse Theo I got written approval to bully Katia.
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>>138644576
Someone send this nigga to Kolyma.
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>>138644576
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>>138644576
Bless you, you are an artist.
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>>138643207
>>138643247
She seems like an interesting, tragic antagonist in all the spoilers but she's so retarded in the anime. Why the fuck would you change this?
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>>138644576
Do more ones like the last Theo and Ursula one, without the suffering, pain and gore.
Just. Pure. Fluff.
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>>138644576
I'd love it if you bullied Beatrix like that one cockpit rape fic a while ago.
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>>138645653
>that one cockpit rape fic
Don't remind me.
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>>138645653
>>138645729
someone repost it
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>>138645729
At least it isn't as horrifying as what that anon just did to Gretel
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>>138645729
>But I loved Lise too.
>Tch
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>>138643247
>>138643247

Slaine Troyard was willing to sacrifice themselves for Asseylum-hime's ideals (Slaine didn't have a name back then, so they used Asseylum-hime to refer to him instead)
The second paragraph refers to Slaine Troyard's goals. Slaine Troyard apparently had a martyr-complex going on that was even bigger then Asseylum-hime. He wanted to reform Mars into a roadblock for the Counts to buy everyone else time. He did ultimately prioritize princess over the humanity, then he wanted to create a new empire to save lower-class Martians no matter what. Much like his former delirium. though, Slane Troyard was a stupid, crazy and delusional in the end willing to go to any lengths to do what she felt was right.
In this sense, Slaine Troyard is very similar Jurgen, Beatrix and Iris; people retarded, hallucinated, delirious and stupid that have dreams and ideals created by delusions and hallucinations by their sick minds.

Gabarge as Beatrix, Jugen, Slaine, Iris and Bizon, always end in the worst way and fucked, along with your shit dreams and your retarded ideals.

It is the law of nature.
At the end only the strong and smart survive.
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>>138645782
>>138645793
>>138645812
stop
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>>138642733

This joke was so obvious yet I still laughed.

The BETA are just asylum seekers from beyond the solar system, you know, looking for a better life and all that shit.
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>>138644576
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>>138645812
I can't believe how much just a little positive Beato/Lise interaction could have helped the anime convey a core aspect of their characters.
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>>138644541
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I want to sleep with Kirke chan!

Her bum is cute.

Kirke and Annette shown being the best of mates in contemporary ML when?
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>>138644576
I'm already a demon.
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>>138646068
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>>138646058
They don't give a shit, see >>138643207 and >>138643247
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>>138646116

She looks like Akatsuki from Log Horizon there. Too bad she got stuffed into a QUALITY car.
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when they will animate this scene?
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>>138646116
Shes pretty great, caught herself a great fine too.
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>>138646116
Cant think about her withut thinking in whiping asses.
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>>138646068
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>>138644865

The best part is, there it's literally no bullying going on here at all. She was evacuated from a war zone, taken in by a host family, and given a job. The only things that are bad here is that the host family is poor and the job isn't very desirable.
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>>138646058
Anime Beatrix didn't love Lise. That IS a core aspect of their characters... in the anime.
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>>138646374
She should have just stayed on the ground and ripped apart BETA.
This is not enough to satisfy the cutest commissar's hardened heart.
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>>138646247
>>138646116
It's a nice ass
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>>138646374
Fuck off Roger Smith
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>>138646367
i hope she didnt die a virgin.
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>>138646431
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>>138646445
If she dies a virgin she has a better change appearing in Extra.
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>>138646398
But thats so much wooooooorse
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>>138646417
This

>This is your last stand, NO doubt, NO fear!
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>>138646504
>chance*
Too late for these tired bones, they need sleep.
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>>138646520
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>>138646504
Inghild had a man, Anette is still fair game.
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>>138646582
She did?
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>>138646520
But it's so much better. It shows how broken poor anime Lise was by the Stasi. At least with LN Lise you can kind of make the argument that she didn't 'really' deserve his dick despite doing all those things for him because she had Beatrix. Anime Lise had nobody at all. She couldn't even believe in hope. The reason she got so angry at Iris was because she didn't believe in the hope that she represented. She deserved to have her onii-chan's D, and she deserved to die with a smile, instead of the torture/forced execution that LN Lise got.

Still, Theo totally should've held her hand.
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>>138646582
>Anette is still fair game
No, she is mine.
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>>138646582
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>>138646603
He died, don't worry
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>>138644939
We could even love each other, Anon-kun!
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>>138646638
Who cares, is she a virgin? That's important.
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This looks like a vagina
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>>138646656
He was on the battlefield, she was at flight school.
So maybe, ask Anette maybe she knows.
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>>138646605
Nah, it just takes a shit all over her motivation and makes her look retarded.
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>>138646605
>should've held her hand
Can't argue with that.
>>138646603
Yes
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>>138646678
yep
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>>138646678
Don't embarrass soldier-kun he's very sensitive about it
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>>138646622
You can't handle her PTSD.
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>>138646713
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>>138646816
how did a 3d woman get into the 2d world?
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>>138646843
Gensokyo.
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>>138646656
Hope not, waste of a damn good bosom.
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>>138646656
Probably, along with Irisdina and Beatrix.
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>>138647012
>Blond
>tits
>compact

Pretty much nails Theo's strikezone perfectly, did he FAP to her too?
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>>138647113
of course
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>>138647113
Probably bought her the ribbons too.
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>>138647113
Shit, why not?
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>>138647113
Onii-chan's dick takes no prisoners.
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>>138647152
>Probably bought her the ribbons too.


If so, why he dindt give katia ant ribbons.
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>>138647152
Wasn't Inhgild the one defending Theo when Anett badmouthed him? Just how smooth can he become when he feels like it?
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>>138647231
Ponytail suits her just fine.
Now if Theo ends up a wreck after taking out his sister he just might force Katia to wear her ribbons.
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>>138647260
He probably caught her on the rebound.
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Why does oniichan FAP on blondes though?
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>>138647321
Because blondes master race
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>>138647321
He lived years with Lise, ended with a blonde fetish.
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>>138647321
A man can have his tastes, both his stepsister and stepmother were blondes, thats gonna do something to you.
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>>138647321
Why not?
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>>138647321
If I remember correctly Theo wanted to bang Lise since the day he met her.
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Funny how the world works
Theo knew Annette, Inghild and their group of friends back from flight school.
Then they all reunited in the 666th a year after graduation.
And then Annette ends being the only one surviving past January 1983
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>>138644576
You shuffled her out the door before she brushed her teeth.
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>>138647537
That's dirty capitalism life for you, she should have stayed at home, surrounded by the people's socialism, that which empowers her and gives her strength to live in this shitty world.
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Did the shit posters finally go away comrades?

Can I finally post Beato-san again and relax with my bros?
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>>138647537
She's a Wal-Mart greeter. Personal hygiene is optional.
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>>138647441
As >>138647400 shows, he wasn't very subtle about it
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>>138647615
>being a dirty communist
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>>138647622
No
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>>138647656
Pig go home
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>>138647622
He's gone for now.
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Why do everyone Theo touches die
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>>138647656
Bourgeoisie raus!
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>>138647843
Katia seems just fine.
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>>138643924
Was she a virgin?
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>>138647655
Well he outright tells the reader in the VN that he knew that both his and her feelings extended beyond that of a brother and sister back then.
I imagine if the dense one could tell so could she.
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>>138647880
Yeah.. She had a virgin soul.
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>>138647400
>play hard
>play cool
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>>138647880
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>>138647974
>living in dorms

How awful.
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>>138647948
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>>138647941
Damn right.
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>>138647974
An apt reply.
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>>138647999
Lise is awful
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>>138647999

Clearly he's in a sorority sister.
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>>138648026
No, Lise is precious.
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>>138647905
She bet on it from the start.
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>>138648011
Beatrix and I would adopt Lise and make her normal again!
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>>138648093
>BD's have 7 minute extras each adopting the SoL parts

I want to believe.
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>>138648046
A precious educated prostitute, those Stasi need some love
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>>138647869
For now.
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>>138648187
That's the price for protecting Theo's smile from the shadows.
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>>138648259
>I'm gonna imouto the fuck out of you
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>>138648100
Onee-san!
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>>138648100
Beatrix is hardly the picture of normal anon. She's nearly as screwed up as Lise is.
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>>138648120
A little more fleshing out of the characters would have done wonders.
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>>138648120
>BD's expand on Lise and Theo's school days until the MfS interferes
I can only hope
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>>138648344
Fine then! I will fix both of them!

With Beatrix's cooking I can never lose!
>>
Why is this director such a hack? He couldn't even begin to make the personality of characters consistent, not like it was ambiguous, they were fleshed out in two different mediums.

I still don't know who got fucked over worse.
Lise, her plan has no fucking sense if she has no relationship with Beatrix
Iris, literally who
Beatrix, what the soaring fuck happened here

Probably Beato.
Probably.
They're all awful though.
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>>138648429
Yes please.
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When Theo slept with Lise, was that one off?

Had Lise not gone full crazy, would they have been in a relationship?

Imagine strolling around the base with every talking about how you're fucking your sister.
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>>138648527
GDR folks wouldn't give a fuck, outside of religious nutjobs like Iris and Anett, but the former isn't totally retarded so she won't say anything.
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>>138648527
Step-sister, but yeah they fucked one night and then everyone got fucked soon after.
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>>138647905
What would Theo's dad think?
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>>138648651
Why would he think anything? She was his step-sister, that's all A-OK for fucking.
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>>138648590
>>138648681
Distant relatives.
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>>138648527

I have a quick question for you. Knowing nothing about this anime is it really about a dude who pilots a giant robot and sleeps with his sister? Because I might be into that.
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>>138648487
>Beatrix, what the soaring fuck happened here
Yukari Tamura probably cost too much dosh.
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>>138648487
>Lise, her plan
Was, in the anime, either escape with onii-chan or kill him, then herself.
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>>138648651
He knew what he was doing when he brought a such a strong, handsome young man into his house.
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>>138648703
Nobody gives a fuck when the blood tie is that tiny.
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