>A whole lot of BL writers/artists in support of rejection of UN stupidity.
Fujos keeping UN in check.
This is now a Kobeni thread, post your Kobenis.
The UN haven't been relevant in years.
That being said, this is still good news -- even if old news.
Does anyone have that picture of that massive reddit thread where everyone there was talking about how they don't watch any anime because loli and harem exists. God, I love that shit.
>regarding the UN discussion on the banning of games and animation that depict sexual violence towards women.
You would have to live under a rock to think this is an actual discussion that might potentially have actual ramifications at any point in the future. Society has moved way past the idea that video games cause bad behavior. Hell you can murder people in the majority of games these days and no one even cares anymore.
It's probably just a couple of vocal advocates that are being given a fair platform by the U.N. All in all, nothing to care about at all.
I don't have any pictures of Kobeni but I have some of best girl I can post.
Reading up on this, it seems as if I underestimated the danger that "SJWs" represent. As I frankly just see it tossed around a lot with little substance. Still, this is kind of a wake up call, and it feels a tad bit late.
>Biology is just applied Chemistry,
Chemistry is just applied physics.
Physics is just applied math.
Math is just applied logic.
Logic is just applied philosophy.
You are conflating everything hard.
To be fair there are branches in both biology, chemistry and physics that are more repeatable and ones that aren't. So a classification like that sounds pretty pointless. Stuff like sociology and economics have use too, just not that much.
The problem is, the SJWs that are angry about said issue, don't actually consume those things if you get what I mean. Same thing happened with American Comics I think? When they made Thor a girl and such. In the end, those didn't sell.
everytime this happens it takes me back to Chappelle Show
"U.N. [United Nations], you get problem with that? You know what you should do? You should sanction me. Sanction me with your army. Oh! wait a minute! You don't have an army! So I guess that means you need to shut the fuck up! That's what I would do if I don't have an army, I would shut the fuck up."
I always find it pretty funny when guys get upset on behalf of someone who doesn't even give a shit. I'm pretty sure if girls hated sexualisation so much then there wouldn't be rows of camwhores on twitch.
>Society has moved way past the idea that video games cause bad behavior.
No it hasn't.
Leave you fucking house for once before you comment on the state of affairs, you fucking autist.
Patriarchy sure got told, look how they pressed a button.
Thats the point.
We cannot escape reality at our current level of understanding.
Once we can apply enlightenment then we can go further up in the chain, until then we will be stuck in a perpetual loop of false perception and fake realities.
Break free feom the loop anon
It is possible. We just need to find the secret path that will lead us there.
Then anything will be possible. And we can finally be with our waifus.
If only there was a research institute for reaching waifus.
No one is worried that the Olympics, will make the west pressure the already conservative Japan government into a banning and censoring spree?
They will just get the most risque ads off the street and have stores put porn on places people won't see it unless they ask for the clerk. Nothing will change. Maybe junior idols, but I'm not really into that
Memes are gonna make anime real
Then why aren't they blaming the pretty girls for it, instead of guys enjoying said pretty girls. It's like putting a cabbage in front of a goat and then blaming it for eating the cabbage.
Seriously though, how many articles on alarmist, right-wing websites do you have to read to actually be this delusional? In any first world country worth a shit the whole video games - violence connection went out of style a long time ago and the idea of censoring them is ridiculous now. A couple idiotic advocates who have zero connections in the industry are not going to change anything about how games are made.
Look at Hatred, a game where you literally just massacre people en masse. Yes, it got criticism in the media, but it still got published. It would be pretty bizarre to let a game like that exist but then draw the line somewhere with other games.
>inferior to women in all aspects
The only reason they were even able to sell hatred is on steam because of the fan criticism after valve removed it from steam.
Also there's enough examples of censorship in localization of "problematic" japanese games.
Are you fucking serious? Do you live in Japan? Because in the last 3-4 years the west have been drowning in Political Correct garbage. That includes how women are portrayed in videogames. Going as far as asking Japan to ban and censor the media that portrayed woman as sexual objects or whatever in anime,manga and videogames.
You have to be a fucking retarded liberal or live under a fucking rock to not see this shit around you.
Yeah but if you have a mathematician and make him study physics it wouldn't take him long to catch on, the same for a physician and chemestry and son and on.
Meanwhile if you ask a philosopher to even describe a simple identity they would work their entire life and never understand shit because they can't grasp the concept of maths or are too stupid for them.
I mean, I like maths as much as the next and I don't know much about physics but I'm pretty sure that being a good mathematician wouldn't help a lot with chemistry and biology. Since math is more about systematically solving something whilst in biology you just generally get stuff like there you go these things are called aphelenchoididae. Why? Because fuck you, learn it, and also learn 1000 more latin names and learn what those fuckers look like. Then we can start talking about what their organs and enzimes are called and what they do.
Sorry but I speak from experience. My soft "science" friends can't do math to save their life. They went to soft science because they were unable to master math even in the applied form.
>math is more about systematically solving something
Applied math is like this. Pure math is just "Let's find weird patterns 'n shit. Why? Who the fuck cares, its neat".
Biology is a lot about finding patterns as well. Its less directly quantifiable, but there's parallels between math and say, observing a biological system enough times to determine its chemical mechanism.
Well I mean, sure "observation" is "observation" but I don't think looking at mathematical systems will teach you how to titrate, do PCR and DNS isolation. So the "observation" is not exactly that similar.
It's almost like there's a steep learning curve to these things so it's embarrassing when pomo fags misunderstand science or when Bill Nye completely fucks up basic Descartes.
Yeah but the difference is that in philosophy there is no greater true while in math there are axioms that are unquestionable trues.
One is the study of why shit works the way it does the other is just speculation, one is responsible for all the shit we achieve so far and the other is only responsible for segregation among people with different ideas.
The scientific method > Philosophy.
Sure, there's specialized knowledge involved, but there's parallels. There's a pretty vast gulf between those and "soft" sciences, which someone was implying was comparable chem or bio.
Nothing wrong with a meme anime becoming reality
I mean, sociology is pretty much just observation and finding patterns too. I do think that stuff like that and linguistics are meme subjects but still there aren't that many parallels between sciences, if you want to start a new one you pretty much have to start from scratch anyways. Even between branches of one science, like being an expert on metallurgy will still leave you shit clueless at organic chemistry.
>Leave you fucking house for once before you comment on the state of affairs, you fucking autist.
When you leave your house, you won't find a lot of people publically talking about gaming causing bad behaviour aside from addiction, especially in this current generation. It's mostly on the internet that you see this kind of thing.
Hint: if your only argument is to tell people to go outside, that they're autistic, that they' virgins because you disagree with them, you have no argument in the first place. Fuck off to Reddit.
I hear guys talking about video games on the tram all the time. And I pretty much any guy I know at college has at least one video game he can talk about all day, and I know 3 girls at college who I can discuss anime with. And I'm pretty sure in non post soviet shitholes things like luxury computer entertainment things are more popular among people.
/r/anime is full of the type of anime fans you would encounter in Highschool/University anime clubs (i.e. the most intolerable kind of human being imaginable). Yet at the same time, they seem to really fucking care what people who don't watch anime think of them.
Nah, I'm just saying, I don't think discussing nerdy things is that uncommon. Meanwhile though I noticed that I misread your post, I thought you said public discussion of nerdy things was uncommon not that discussion about bad influences are uncommon. Sorry it's getting late and my englando translation module is working overtime. Yeah people don't really complain about stuff, but then again I don't think a lot of games where you're actively raping woman.
>people acting like a subsection of the UN not even the UN cares about is a big deal
but I have been banned from online communities for suggesting regulating what people can and cannot draw is retarded, so...yeah
reddit is a goldmine for hilarious bullshit.
You have no one to blame but yourself. You were warned.
>I have changed the content of my post after I noticed it was getting down votes
Jesus fucking christ.
>trying to sound smart by pretending you don't pick sides in political discussions and writing like a faggot while still managing to start a sentence with a connective
Get a load of this faggot.
The world is getting dumber by the day. These fucking retarded laws. When people lose something valuable to fight for, they instead turn to fiction where they can pretend to be still important.
>Seems I'm being brigaded right now
I wonder why?
They could just go and fight the
muslims. But yeah they're too pussies to challenge anyone scarier than video game nerds.
Modern feminists are a joke. Cowardice and hypocricy disguised with courage and revolution. The only revolution is fucking the already weak and leaving the actual menace be because women can't dare to piss of the religion that stones women and reduces them to mere cattle.
So instead of helping actual women in danger these idiots are worrying about cartoons?
I hope the fujo kick their asses. They can be best girls too.
It's their white whale.
Women in danger are in danger because of niggers and muslims. Feminists don't dare piss off niggers and muslims because they don't want to be branded racists and it takes actual courage fighting them.
You fuckers are morons; what are they supposed to do, ask Saudi Arabia nicely to stop being a theocracy?
There are plenty of grassroots operations to help women both in the West and abroad, but you don't pay attention to that because it's not related to anime and video games.
Why would Saudi Arabia ask itself to stop stone women? You do realize that it's Saudi Arabia that's head of UN Human Rights? For making such a post, you sure do seem uninformed.
By picking on social rejects who literally don't even leave their rooms for weeks? Sure showed their power now, and don't worry about rampant prostitution and muslims treating woman as dogs, those are fine and just show how strong woman are.
There's nothing wrong with bullying the rejects of society. Maybe they'll learn to better themselves or take some led aspirin, thus cleansing society of worthless people.
Darwinism is a thing regardless of civilized society.
That's the beauty of that logic. They don't think about how they might feel if it happened to them, because why would anyone disagree with them? Don't they see how perfect and righteous they are?
>Why would Saudi Arabia ask itself to stop stone women? You do realize that it's Saudi Arabia that's head of UN Human Rights? For making such a post, you sure do seem uninformed
That's the point, the UN is bed with the enemy. And why should Saudi Arabia ask itself to stop harming its citizens? Gee, I don't know, maybe it has something to do with the people in that country wanting a better quality of life.
If people are suffering, it's always wrong, culture be damned. The problem is that culture can't be changed overnight. It's going to take some great catalyst to change the attitudes of people in the Middle East and get them to fight off their oppressive way of life. That's why so many of them leave.
>lewd anime is harmless
Tell that to the state of the anime industry.
Because fapping to cartoons doesn't help population. Or some spiel.
I'm saying in my ironic edgepost is either the rejects become normal people or kill themselves and that stronger animals pick on the weaker ones.
>people in that country wanting a better quality of life
"People" already have a better quality of life, by putting cattle where it belongs.
You have no clue about both science, the philosophy of science and philosophy in general, desu sempai.
Did you even read anything CEDAW published? All UN documents are freely available on their servers. If you had spent even a few minutes actually looking into what they wrote, you would've seen that portrayal of women in media is only one of 61 issues they highlighted in the last session regarding Japan. They don't even put any emphasis on it. In fact, one of the issues you just mentioned, prostitution, is highlighted much more.
The thing that worries me the most in this thread is that people get butthurt spouting other people's opinions without actually looking into the matter at all.
>That's why so many of them leave.
People leave Middle East not because of how women are treated. Most refugees from ME are men that do the actual opression. They "flee" because Europe has free welfare money and blonde girls. That's it.
UN is retarded. David Cameron reduced it to an even greater joke when he assigned his butt buddies the Saudis as head of Human Rights.
That doesn't make any sense though, you've said that they need to prove their absolute strength, well they ain't doing any of that. It's like saying that dude I fucking hate animals, then go and start kicking dirt at a skinny dog sitting in a hole, and when you're asked why aren't you fighting those bears ripping people apart 10 meters away then, you just say that uhhhh you need be .... uhhh accepting, for bears and... stuff. Aka just makes you look like a stupid clown.
holy shit this is fucking stupid are they going to ban porn too? am i going to get arrested for having a boner?
fuck it how do I go gay /a/ you guys sure seem to be masters of the trade.
Sure, which is so many of them abandon their country?
>They don't even put any emphasis on it. In fact, one of the issues you just mentioned, prostitution, is highlighted much more.
The thing is, why attach anything about media at all? Mixing in something much more inconsequential with so many important things, it's like they don't actually want to get the bill passed at all.
Well, naturally with women and children being as oppressed as they are, it's not exactly going to be easy for them to escape that kind of life unless they're with a man. The ones do manage to make it deserve our help.
Self-righteousness doesn't have to actually be righteous.
Just step on a couple of inferior degenerates and pat yourself on the back. The people who contribute nothing to society can't kill you so its fair.
This just reminds me of >>138623145
What's the point of bitching about what's wrong in the world without having the power to actually do anything. How about they just shut their mouths.
anime for normies and kids got less lewd due to parent complaints, actually
anime for otaku started pandering harder because there are more and more shows every year and studios and creators need everything they can to catch people's attention
manga has always been lewder than anime, anyway. there are a lot of smut/ecchi shoujo manga for teenage girls, even.
Don't you understand what I just fucking wrote? The ones that flee to Europe from Middle-East are almost exclusively men. The few women that do flee are almost exclusively married with children. Your idea of refugees is tainted by politically correct misinformation. Young men are "fleeing" to Europe from Middle-East because they think that Europe is filled with money and blonde girls ripe for the fucking. I've talked to these people. Been with them longer than you have. You have no idea what your stupid high horse mentality is doing to the countries hosting these people. The mental gymnastics displayed show a severe cognitive dissonance.
Saudi arabians? They only leave their countries to go to western universities and spend some of their pools of gold. You're thinking of syrians, afghans, iranians aka the niggers of the middle east.
Look for the 'Japanese boy' threads.
Just keep it to yourself because as we see here;
They are prepared to ruin your life over it no matter where you sit on the privilege scale.
>How about they just shut their mouths.
This kind of thinking is why Japan has suicide rates, because no one is willing to speak up.
Japan has bigger problems for the women--and the men!--living there than just muh anime, but the Japanese themselves need to fight against it, not the UN.
Then send the young men back, which is exactly what countries like Sweden is already doing.
I'll concede that SA is a poor example.
May you never be in a position where you need to flee your country.
>May you never be in a position where you need to flee your country.
I sure hope I won't be, but that doesn't mean it'd be some random other people's national responsibility to take care of me. Of course, I'd be overjoyed if they did, but that's a different matter.
Uhhh no, japan has high suicide rates because they wanted to catch up from the economical decline and force their citizens into overworking. And it did work, japan is one of the most influential countries in the world. Stop making up random correlations. I'm pretty sure citizens of the country understand it as well, but that doesn't mean they can't break under the pressure.
Woman rights in places like syria or iran aren't nearly as bad as it is in saudi arabia. But guess what noone gives a shit because they're rich. Woman rights, is it actually a joke? See the answer after the commercial... Yes it is.
The reason Japan has high suicide rates can actually be clearly understood when you consider their fucking stupid practice to put up a ranking of every single student for everyone to see all the way from elementary school.
I'd probably just live out the rest of my life in my war torn country until someone inevitably put a bullet in my head, I don't have it in me to just leave and start a new life from scratch in a new country.
If I really deserted my country, I would abandon my cultural identity forever and live in servitude for the new country I got to as gratitude.
To be fair I don't think living on welfare is that bad if people are willing to pay it for you. But if they take you in then you shouldn't go around raping and beating young girls and forcing your religion on them. That's just being an actual monkey.
Someone should mail them a copy of any work of Asanagi.
That's just the point, policies like these are killing off their own people. If someone doesn't take a stand, it will just keep happening.
Is it really anyone's responsibility to help anyone? Regardless of national identities or what have you.
If they were a monkey back in their home country, they'll be one in another country. Good immigrants already have a plan as to what they want and need to do to survive in a new country, even the poor ones.
>mfw I just post muslim once in a dead thread and it gets on first page for an hour
>Woman rights in places like syria or iran aren't nearly as bad as it is in saudi arabia. But guess what noone gives a shit because they're rich
This whole thread is a huge exercise of strawmanning.
Here, CEDAW regularly bitches about Saudi Arabia, too:
In fact, it makes recommendations for every UN country, be it Algeria, Italy, the USA, China or Japan.
I highly doubt any of them wants to take a stand against it. They're proud of their achievements and giving their best for their country. And they're pretty well respected for it as well, don't make up problems for people who don't think they have problems.
Yeah it's called welfare, raping and beating a blonde girl and if they get caught they sit around in a prison cell for a year getting three meals a day and a better room than their richest person had at their hometown.
That's just like, your opinion man. Calling a whole culture bad because of your views is pretty ignorant. Suicide has been part of a japanese man's honor for thousands of years. You can't just suddenly tell them that they can't do it because you said so.
The power of persuasion can vastly outperform an army.
In the case of Japan, for example, you'd see that they actually accepted proposals of previous sessions and formed them into laws, like those regarding spousal violence.
Honestly, you have pretty simplistic notions of the interactions between international organizations, governments, ministerial bureaucrats and populaces.
I'm sure that only applies to people. Marrying your daki doesn't give it human rights because it isn't a person. It would only make sense to have these laws by now
>As a straight dude I've greatly enjoyed Free!
I think we should just mail the UN loads and loads of hentai and win them over to our side. Sure, they'll be powerless to aid us in any meaningful way, but it would be nice to have a friend.
Well I mean, the UN was constantly bitching about our country building fences to stop immigrants getting in and the government pretty just replied with "fuck off retards. And then that was that so yeah I'm pretty sure noone actually gives a shit about anything significant they say.
>No black women, the most oppressed of all
>A male authority looking over them under the shadow of the Amerikkkan flag as an obvious nod to the patriarchy
I have red squiggly lines on every English word because it checks the spelling for my native.
>good luck at beating saudi arabia in a war
pretty easy t.bh
goes double for the smaller arab states, like Qatar, where you just need a few tanks to stage a coup (and this has been done before)
>A guy can be attracted to another guy while still being straight, anon.
Is this the new "feminine penis"?
Fuck off faggot.
You guys should read the full address to the UN by that one women representative.
It's pretty nice seeing people stand up to bullshit and being put in their place by who they believe should be on their side.
There are so many people like this, that seriously think like this, it's awful.
None of them actually give a shit about victims of sexual violence or the victims of rape or anything - if they did, they'd be out there volunteering, counseling, getting an education in psychology so they can truly help, etc. Instead they just want to grandstand. Belittling others from a moral high ground gives them a high, and if you dare argue with them, you get screamed at for being a pedophile/rape apologist/etc.
No sign of any post about in /r/anime though. Just seasonal anime posts and the same handful of topics that are there any time I poke my head in the door over there. For example: "What's so special about anime that sets it apart from Western media?". That place is full of teenagers who think they're special because they watch anime.
Nobody is really writing about it because it's not part of the narrative. Seeing women reject this whole retarded phase of overly sensitive bitching about fictional content doesn't fit in their agenda.
You should post cute girls in swimsuits and/or showing their midriffs
That's very ignorant of you to say. Don't question the ways of glorious dainippon.
The sites that are anti-Japan simply don't report this because seeing women reject retarded laws ruin the narrative. It's all about presenting the right information and withholding the wrong info.
Doesn't the UN currently have a muslim as their human rights adviser, or some other ridiculous bullshit like that?
I don't believe that suicide is evil but I don't necessarily believe it's "right" either. I would prefer if it people didn't feel like they needed to kill themselves in order for their lives to be better.
Yeah that shit was hella funny. I remember reading some article that was saying that UN human rights adviser Abdul al Alhamirmonkeyman condones eastern european countries for not accepting a limitless number of muslim immigrants.
>we have to like everything about certain cultures or else we're autists/racists
If I were complaining about some facet of Middle Eastern culture, like Islam, would you still be spouting the same opinion?
I think you're talking about two different things. The other anon seems to think you're >>138637266 and is attacking that guy's perspective, but you seem to be a different anon who butted in without reading the conversation.
>Belittling others from a moral high ground gives them a high
That's exactly what this thread is about, too - look how stupid these redditors and feminists and the UN are! Look at them and laugh! Not that you're wrong, but there's a reason this sort of shit usually gets rerouted to /v/, it's just circlejerking that has very little to do with anime.
Just saying but it's their culture, they don't consider it a problem, so there's no reason for some foreigner to decide for them that it's their problem. Also there's a difference between suicide for restoring your honor if you feel like you've failed your life and promoting rape and beheadings. The two aren't really comparable.
I don't know if suicide is really about honor that much in modern Japanese culture. It seems more to be about not wanting to live with the shame, which is the other side of the coin but not the exact same thing. Glorious seppuku is pretty much dead, nowadays they jump onto the subway or wander into the forest and hang themselves.
Butthurt feminist detected.
>That's exactly what this thread is about, too
No one is trying to hold the moral high ground, they're just laughing at easily offended retards who want everything banned to protect their feelings.
>Just saying but it's their culture, they don't consider it a problem
Can you show me some proof of this? Do you live in Japan? Are you Japanese? How do you know what they don't consider a problem? The Japanese keep to themselves after all.
This thread isn't a circlejerk. There have been posters defending UN. I disagree with them but I won't argue against them expressing themselves. Usually their arguments are pretty easy to debunk anyways.
It pretty much is, you could probably spend a couple of months digging up resources on japanese culture to figure out their views on suicide. If I had to theorise though then I'd say that japan always had difficult terrain and low resources. So they couldn't sustain extra mouths, but still you wouldn't just execute your fellow even if he is useless. So instead of being a burden on everyone they would choose suicide and thus making a sacrifice for their community, which is honorable. And it still holds nowadays, Japan isn't exactly a luxury state, it can't really allow freeloaders. It might be off the mark but it seems like a pretty reasonable theory. Samurai as higher ranked people had their ceremonies, but for commoners suicide by hanging and jumping off cliffs have always been pretty common.
If you read the rebuttal to the UN, it's clearly from a feminist perspective, and the "feminists" who want to ban certain kinds of media are doing so less from a desire to help and more from a desire to demonize.
I'm a feministand I think it's important that freedom of speech be preserved, including loli rape manga.
>There have been posters defending UN.
That was pretty much all just me. If you quoted all of the posts defending the UN, I could show you a screencap of 90% of those showing a "(You)".
Yes, and I tried to explain as civil as possible why you were wrong. Or are you really this dense that the very moment someone disagrees with you, you call for the discussion to be removed? Don't blame me your arguments were razor-thin.
Why are progressive groups vying for bans on so many things nowadays? It's like they want chastity standards to return to preindustrial levels, except it only applies under some magical circumstances. Political correctness has thoroughly gone awry in the west.
>I think it's important that freedom of speech be preserved, including loli rape manga
It's not as if the average person in Japan thinks raping little children is acceptable or wants such things in their media. They're probably just as disgusted by the idea as the "feminists", but instead they tackle it by making it a moral issue instead of a legal one. When I say moral issue, I mean in the sense that Japanese culture isn't encouraging people to make loli rape doujins.
>you call for the discussion to be removed?
You were actually replying to a different guy than >>138637856 just now and that guy doesn't even have to be pro-UN to want this discussion to be deleted.
Fujos are doing it right. Instead of complaining about the oversexualization of women, they just sexualize men and turn them into faggots. True equality should strive to give more to the other gender, not take away from the one which is benefiting.
Today I had to hear how porn leads to rape, despite the fact that it is easy to prove that countries where the most porn is consumed per capita are down in the rapes per capita lists; the same holds true for historical trends.
The two are however hardly correlated, but it is still funny how stupid people can be.
Spooks: The Post.
>mfw you've never even read Hume
>I'm a feminist
Hey look everyone, a faggot!
>I think it's important that freedom of speech be preserved, including loli rape manga.
Yes, instead we should tackle important issues in the Western world like the mythical wage gap, manspreading, fart rapes, pushing affirmative consent laws that make it so you have to scream "YES I WANT TO HAVE SEX" before having sex otherwise you can be accused of rape, and complaining about men liking cute/sexy women in media. Those are the important issues we have to face in the current year. EQUALITY NOW! (that was the group that tried to get Rapelay banned by the way)
There was a convention for feminists in Montreal recently, and they were trying o come up with reasons why feminism is still needed in 2016. One of the reporters asked all of them "do you think you can be for equal rights without calling yourself a feminist?" and she said most of them answered "no".
I am an engineer I apply the scientific method every day of my life and have done so ever since I entered college.
The difference between a scientist and a philosopher is that both look for answers but the scientist will use a model and try to find the limitations of their models and predict the curse of nature with math to apply that knowledge on other areas later. A philosopher finds a possible answer and never bothers to look if its right or wrong or how can be applied to other areas.
>Rules don't apply to me, only to other people
I fucking hate this mentality. Why can't people just grow the fuck up and take responsibility for things?
Wow, it's almost like media organizations consist of more than one writer writing all the articles! I guess that doesn't fit with the tinfoil hat conception of media, where all is controlled by one magical being behind the curtain.
In my experience is not that philosophers are stupid, is that they are too stupid for math or actual science. A scientist test their theories in practices and theoretically, A philosopher only talks or writes about shit but never bother to prove his points in reality. For them Gravity isn't a theory but rather an idea and never bother to test it, that is why most of the modern inventions come from science and the efforts coming from the scientific approach. The only reason why we are still struggling with how to build a society is because we never gave the scientific approach a chance at building a society and we still believe the retards that can't understand shit would be able to create a working system.
>and being put in their place by who they believe should be on their side.
It doesn't matter. Progressivism is logic- and evidence-proof.
It's not about finding truth (they couldn't care less), it's not about improving the world (their policies more often than not end up hurting people, like destroying the traditional family, social trust, gender roles).
I don't fucking know what they actually want. Is it just about showing how rightful, morally superior are? Do they just hate men? Or do they just want to watch the world burn?
It's pretty stupid when we have the hard cold facts to tell how damaging sexual activity with adults is to prepubescent children, but Americans get so bent out of shape over sexual activity between adolescents.
Wanting to get rid of toddlercon is one thing, but muh under 18 is nothing but Puritanical nonsense.
>EQUALITY NOW! (that was the group that tried to get Rapelay banned by the way)
Speaking of that, it reminded me of threads people had on /v/, /a/ and /jp/ about the subject so I looked it up.
Seems the UN is still at it, I can't wait for the 2020 Olympics.
These pretentious faggots really don't understand that the vast majority of products in any medium are generally just cheaply-produced trash built to pander in the basest way possible for maximum sales
Your experience seems very limited and based on more retarded assumptions than most third rate philosophers, instead of analysis and observation. Don't lump everyone together, try to understand the different drive, aim and tools at the disposal of each group. There have been many logical, intelligent and self-aware people in the history of mankind, and they've spent their lives cultivating different fields: from music to poetry. Some of the most intelligent people to ever exist have done nothing at all. Also, some brilliant and renowned scientists have fallen pray to irrational thought and superstition as well.
Oh, and let us not forget the role philosophy played in birthing the scientific theory, which is the only one thing to describe science as a whole.
>scientific approach a chance at building a society
Now you're implying that hard science can unequivocally apply to anything trivially, which is, again, hardly the case. Any "scientific approach" to society building would simply be someone's opinion on how a society should operate being forced upon everyone else. Which, on the other hand, is not so different from what we've had or are complaining about in this thread.
Someone else can do that.
>Society has moved way past the idea that video games cause bad behavior.
Not just yet.
I don't believe that they'll win this war, mind you, but universities are turning into a sanctuary for the idea that women are perpetual victims in 2016.
Pretty sad, considering that it has no foundation in fact whatsoever, and feminists actively work against the things that universities are supposed to represent, like open, objective discussion.
>like open, objective discussion.
When was this ever true in America?
Universities have been little more than circlejerks for the elite of society, only in recent decades has this idea that universities are supposed to be these places of "free thought".
Stop making it so that everyone and their mom needs a degree to make a living and put universities back behind a pay wall, that's how to deal with the problems of modern colleges.
>universities are turning into a sanctuary for the idea that women are perpetual victims in 2016
This is the thing that bothers me the most. Universities are too often a grounds for cultivating a very specific political point of view. This does not only undermine their very goals of preserving and expanding knowledge, but it also favors the assumption that such views should be associated with the kind of rational discussion one would expect universities to endorse.
If it weren't for fujos you wouldn't have traps to fap to. They evolved from bishounen characters.
Well I am an engineer, I surround myself with people that studied science and the people that didn't usually work low wages jobs at my company.
Even then the people I knew at college that study retarded social studies are making either little money or working on whatever they can because their degree is worthless.
I can't take your guys seriously and never will.
>Now you're implying that hard science can unequivocally apply to anything trivially, which is, again, hardly the case. Any "scientific approach" to society building would simply be someone's opinion on how a society should operate being forced upon everyone else. Which, on the other hand, is not so different from what we've had or are complaining about in this thread.
Yeah, but there is a key difference. If I tell you that the Earth rotates around the Sun, you can actually test it yourself, on paper or on practice. If we come to tell you that our approach is better than your retarded social studies way, you will have not just our "opinion" on it but also the tools to test that our way is actually the best one.
But I guess someone that never took a class of some real science will never understand that. The knowledge science gives you aren't "subjective", they are objective trues that you can test for yourself and challenge them and update them or refute them if you find out that you have the best model to explain something that will update a previous model or expand their borders where the models work. So yeah I have no doubt that scientist would create a better way to live in society than the retards that take classes in women's studies, social studies, philosophy or whatever, I give thanks that in my country I don't have to pay with my taxes the college for the retards that take this courses that will ended up working cleaning tables.
>Read the translated reply
>One of their points is how reality and fiction are different
Why do people seem to find this point so hard to accept?
It isn't CP, it is a drawing. Unless it is an accurate sketch of an actual naked child, then it isn't CP
I mean honestly, let's face it. Teenagers are ruining their lives in way worse ways by doing way worse things than fucking adults.
I'm sick of society and the law babying teenagers. They're old enough to know what they're doing. The dumb little shits.
>In my experience is not that philosophers are stupid, is that they are too stupid for math or actual science
Do you know how many notable philosophers were also mathematicians or scientists?
I think it's the difference between the university student who did philosophy because their GPA wasn't high enough for any other field, and the guy who got his degree in math, science, and philosophy because he was capable of all of it.
It's more like mathematicians and scientists who also do philosophy than philosophers who also do math and science.
A lot, but most of their legacy was always around science.
I don't give a shit about philosophy because science has changed our world and our well being in ways philosophy never did. We still study Plato or whatever now but that shit gave us nothing of value. Meanwhile Newton, Faraday and Einstein basically gave us everything we see today.
Yes, please post your rare kobenis.
I have studied economics and international business as well as computer engineering, and I managed to score top of my class both times. I have met retarded people in both places, and while there are differences on average, average people are hardly ever studied or paid attention to in the long term, at least in from an academical point of view. The man I've grown to respect the most based on his intelligence, I met while working at a consulting firm.
>Even then the people I knew at college that study retarded social studies are making either little money or working on whatever they can because their degree is worthless.
I was raking in far more money in a consulting firm than I likely ever will agian in my life, but I'd rather spend my life studying and masturbating to hentai in my spare time.
>If we come to tell you that our approach is better than your retarded social studies way
Again, you seem to be under the assumption that not being able to reach an absolute conclusion means no valuable knowledge can be obtained at all. You also seem to be confusing engineering with science, which ows to the scientific method alone. As an engineer, I believe that this is a very sorry mistake to be making.
Do you not remember writing these?
>Americans get so bent out of shape over sexual activity between adolescents
>muh under 18 is nothing but Puritanical nonsense
I think it's pretty directly related. I was agreeing with you, dumbass, and I didn't say a thing about teenagers fucking each other, either.
Go out and ask people if a cartoon child is child porn, or if rape hentai/vidya is just as bad as reality. 9/10 people will say yes because they have weird, messed up views of the world.
>this should carry over to fantasies
But then they won't be rare any more.