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Female Japanese Creators Pledge Support to Rejection of UN Claims

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http://nichegamer.com/2016/03/a-multitude-of-female-japanese-creators-pledge-support-to-rejection-of-un-claims/

>A whole lot of BL writers/artists in support of rejection of UN stupidity.

Fujos keeping UN in check.
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>>138622198
It's not like UN ever was relevant in the first place.
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This is now a Kobeni thread, post your Kobenis.
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The UN haven't been relevant in years.

That being said, this is still good news -- even if old news.
Does anyone have that picture of that massive reddit thread where everyone there was talking about how they don't watch any anime because loli and harem exists. God, I love that shit.
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Fuck off.
>>>/v/
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>regarding the UN discussion on the banning of games and animation that depict sexual violence towards women.
You would have to live under a rock to think this is an actual discussion that might potentially have actual ramifications at any point in the future. Society has moved way past the idea that video games cause bad behavior. Hell you can murder people in the majority of games these days and no one even cares anymore.

It's probably just a couple of vocal advocates that are being given a fair platform by the U.N. All in all, nothing to care about at all.
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>>138622198
>UN
"the females in Japan is being oppressed because of cartoon, we need to help them."
>Japanese Females
"no, we're not."

they need to stop shoving their stupid ideal.
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>>138622198
>no Cherry Arai

Fuck you and your misleading clickbait.
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Not even the UN thinks they are important.
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It's this UN.
http://www.unwomen.org/en
They aren't important.
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Women in Muslim countries are more oppressed. UN must do something for it at first.
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>>138622703
No, stupid idiot. Anime and Manga comes first.
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>UN
>relevant in any way
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>>138622791
There is soft sciences that aren't social sciences?
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>>138622837
Biology
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>>138622308
I don't have any pictures of Kobeni but I have some of best girl I can post.
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>>138622858
Biology is just applied Chemistry, so i fail to see why it would be classed as a soft science.
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>fujoshits being useful for once
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>>138622837
very soft
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>>138622308
I want to fondle her kobenis
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>>138622910
> biology is just applied chemistry

Chemistry is just applied physics
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Why are women so fucking crazy?
Do they just hate that they got the vote and have to do shit like this now?
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>>138622987
And Physics is just applied Maths.
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>>138622198
Reading up on this, it seems as if I underestimated the danger that "SJWs" represent. As I frankly just see it tossed around a lot with little substance. Still, this is kind of a wake up call, and it feels a tad bit late.
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>>138622910
>>138622987
>>138623043
>Biology is just applied Chemistry,
Chemistry is just applied physics.
t. physicist

Physics is just applied math.
t. mathematician

Math is just applied logic.
t. logician

Logic is just applied philosophy.
t. philosopher

>>138622791
You are conflating everything hard.
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>>138622910
To be fair there are branches in both biology, chemistry and physics that are more repeatable and ones that aren't. So a classification like that sounds pretty pointless. Stuff like sociology and economics have use too, just not that much.
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>>138623057
Philosophy is just applied consciousness
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>>138623052
The problem is, the SJWs that are angry about said issue, don't actually consume those things if you get what I mean. Same thing happened with American Comics I think? When they made Thor a girl and such. In the end, those didn't sell.
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>>138622198
everytime this happens it takes me back to Chappelle Show
"U.N. [United Nations], you get problem with that? You know what you should do? You should sanction me. Sanction me with your army. Oh! wait a minute! You don't have an army! So I guess that means you need to shut the fuck up! That's what I would do if I don't have an army, I would shut the fuck up."
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>>138623052
I always find it pretty funny when guys get upset on behalf of someone who doesn't even give a shit. I'm pretty sure if girls hated sexualisation so much then there wouldn't be rows of camwhores on twitch.
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>>138623130
Consciousness is just applied memes.
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>>138623163
Memes are just applied magic
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>>138623204
Truer than you think
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>>138622399
>Society has moved way past the idea that video games cause bad behavior.
No it hasn't.
Leave you fucking house for once before you comment on the state of affairs, you fucking autist.
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>>138623411
Magic is just applied incomprehensible truths about the nature of reality itself.
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>>138623509
Reality is just applied perception
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>>138623527
Perception is just applied imagination
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>>138623548
Imagination is just applied experience
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>>138623577
But you can only experience reality, and that creates a loop here: >>138623527
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>>138623593
>But you can only experience reality
Tell that to the UN.
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>>138622610
Patriarchy sure got told, look how they pressed a button.
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fujoshi will protect the shotas and the lolis while japanese boys get into the robot, but end up just crying and masturbating
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>>138623593
But anon

Thats the point.

We cannot escape reality at our current level of understanding.

Once we can apply enlightenment then we can go further up in the chain, until then we will be stuck in a perpetual loop of false perception and fake realities.
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>>138623697
So basically, my waifu is real.
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>>138623697
But enlightenment is unobtainable within the confines of the current hierarchy that we just explained.
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>>138623814
Break free feom the loop anon

It is possible. We just need to find the secret path that will lead us there.

Then anything will be possible. And we can finally be with our waifus.
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>>138622338
UN leading sanctions against North Korea and managed to get China to agree
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Not anime.
Sage and report.
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>>138623900
>Break free feom the loop anon
I'm not talking about the loop. I'm talking about the application hierarchy that started at biology and we broke down as far as imagination.
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>>138623900
If only there was a research institute for reaching waifus.
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>>138622791
something something STEM autists
something something triggered
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>>138623900
it's called dream walking
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>>138622970
I want her to fondle my benis :DD
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>>138622858
Biology is intermediate.
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No one is worried that the Olympics, will make the west pressure the already conservative Japan government into a banning and censoring spree?
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>>138623636
>that guy on the back
>i hope i finally get some pussy
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>>138622198
Where were you when Fujoshits saved anime from the devil that is the Western feminists?
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>>138623150
The girls getting upset at sexualization are the ones who are unable to get money from camwhoring on twitch
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>>138625585
They will just get the most risque ads off the street and have stores put porn on places people won't see it unless they ask for the clerk. Nothing will change. Maybe junior idols, but I'm not really into that
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIzgqDDYL1g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIlEh4AMbdI
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>>138623411
Memes are gonna make anime real
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>>138625806
Not like they are the only nips against it so they aren't saving anything. Fujos are just fighting for fujoshit, I don't give a fuck. Not like UN is relevant anyway.
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>>138626864
What's Ougi doing in an idol group?
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>>138628199
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>>138626415
Then why aren't they blaming the pretty girls for it, instead of guys enjoying said pretty girls. It's like putting a cabbage in front of a goat and then blaming it for eating the cabbage.
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>>138622338
This one?
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>>138629314
lmao
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>>138623469
Seriously though, how many articles on alarmist, right-wing websites do you have to read to actually be this delusional? In any first world country worth a shit the whole video games - violence connection went out of style a long time ago and the idea of censoring them is ridiculous now. A couple idiotic advocates who have zero connections in the industry are not going to change anything about how games are made.

Look at Hatred, a game where you literally just massacre people en masse. Yes, it got criticism in the media, but it still got published. It would be pretty bizarre to let a game like that exist but then draw the line somewhere with other games.
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>>138629314
>inferior to women in all aspects
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>>138629487
>Hatred
The only reason they were even able to sell hatred is on steam because of the fan criticism after valve removed it from steam.

Also there's enough examples of censorship in localization of "problematic" japanese games.
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>>138629891
>"problematic" japanese games
You mean ones where you fuck little girls? You should know that even drawings of it are illegal in a lot of western countries.
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>>138629985
It's not only little girls, retard. They even butcher the text and fanservice costumes for all characters.
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>>138622399
Are you fucking serious? Do you live in Japan? Because in the last 3-4 years the west have been drowning in Political Correct garbage. That includes how women are portrayed in videogames. Going as far as asking Japan to ban and censor the media that portrayed woman as sexual objects or whatever in anime,manga and videogames.

You have to be a fucking retarded liberal or live under a fucking rock to not see this shit around you.
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>>138623057
Yeah but if you have a mathematician and make him study physics it wouldn't take him long to catch on, the same for a physician and chemestry and son and on.

Meanwhile if you ask a philosopher to even describe a simple identity they would work their entire life and never understand shit because they can't grasp the concept of maths or are too stupid for them.
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>>138630197
truly a dark age we live in
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>>138630477
Disturbing how many euphoric scientists actually believe that while putting no effort into studying philosophy.
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>>138630477
I mean, I like maths as much as the next and I don't know much about physics but I'm pretty sure that being a good mathematician wouldn't help a lot with chemistry and biology. Since math is more about systematically solving something whilst in biology you just generally get stuff like there you go these things are called aphelenchoididae. Why? Because fuck you, learn it, and also learn 1000 more latin names and learn what those fuckers look like. Then we can start talking about what their organs and enzimes are called and what they do.
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>>138630737
Sorry but I speak from experience. My soft "science" friends can't do math to save their life. They went to soft science because they were unable to master math even in the applied form.
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Japan, I apologize on behalf of the west that we have let our SJWs proliferate into international politics. Sorry, we've lost control here, don't let them take you over too.
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>>138622198
What are these UN claims?
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>>138622898
Single-handedly ruined the show.
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>>138629985
I seem to remember something about Atelier in Australia or something... Something something high impact violence?
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>>138630890
>math is more about systematically solving something
Applied math is like this. Pure math is just "Let's find weird patterns 'n shit. Why? Who the fuck cares, its neat".

Biology is a lot about finding patterns as well. Its less directly quantifiable, but there's parallels between math and say, observing a biological system enough times to determine its chemical mechanism.
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>>138629314
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWB01IuMvzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqws3z-eqB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtAjY7WMYW4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Jgf5fTTXc
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>>138631126
Well I mean, sure "observation" is "observation" but I don't think looking at mathematical systems will teach you how to titrate, do PCR and DNS isolation. So the "observation" is not exactly that similar.
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>>138630930
It's almost like there's a steep learning curve to these things so it's embarrassing when pomo fags misunderstand science or when Bill Nye completely fucks up basic Descartes.
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>>138625585
Not at all.

The President of the United States went to Tokyo and all they did was tape up the vending machines.
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>>138630197
>Fanservice costumes
>mattering

Text isn't worth whining about either because dank memes were in games since Phoenix Wright and Pokemon 4th gen.
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>>138631307
Yeah but the difference is that in philosophy there is no greater true while in math there are axioms that are unquestionable trues.

One is the study of why shit works the way it does the other is just speculation, one is responsible for all the shit we achieve so far and the other is only responsible for segregation among people with different ideas.

The scientific method > Philosophy.
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>>138631272
Sure, there's specialized knowledge involved, but there's parallels. There's a pretty vast gulf between those and "soft" sciences, which someone was implying was comparable chem or bio.
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>>138630957
Nothing wrong with a meme anime becoming reality
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>>138629314

Hashmir has a point in that very last post though.
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>>138622399
There's still a huge disconnect between how people perceive simulated violence and simulated sexual anything.
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>>138629314
>creepy schoolgirl-obsessed pedophilia
Fucking niggers hate money. No one is buying figures of old hags
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>>138623755
i-is that urobutchi?
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>>138625585
How can loli be heresy?
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>>138631465
I mean, sociology is pretty much just observation and finding patterns too. I do think that stuff like that and linguistics are meme subjects but still there aren't that many parallels between sciences, if you want to start a new one you pretty much have to start from scratch anyways. Even between branches of one science, like being an expert on metallurgy will still leave you shit clueless at organic chemistry.
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>>138631609
The one and only.
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>>138623469
>Leave you fucking house for once before you comment on the state of affairs, you fucking autist.

When you leave your house, you won't find a lot of people publically talking about gaming causing bad behaviour aside from addiction, especially in this current generation. It's mostly on the internet that you see this kind of thing.

Hint: if your only argument is to tell people to go outside, that they're autistic, that they' virgins because you disagree with them, you have no argument in the first place. Fuck off to Reddit.
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>>138631758
I hear guys talking about video games on the tram all the time. And I pretty much any guy I know at college has at least one video game he can talk about all day, and I know 3 girls at college who I can discuss anime with. And I'm pretty sure in non post soviet shitholes things like luxury computer entertainment things are more popular among people.
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>>138631885

And do any of them go on in public about how violence and sex in games cause players to become violent rapists?
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>>138629314
/r/anime is full of the type of anime fans you would encounter in Highschool/University anime clubs (i.e. the most intolerable kind of human being imaginable). Yet at the same time, they seem to really fucking care what people who don't watch anime think of them.
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>>138630477
Depends on if your philosopher studies logic, computing, and philosophy of mathematics or if they study ethics or some shit desu senpai
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>>138632013
Nah, I'm just saying, I don't think discussing nerdy things is that uncommon. Meanwhile though I noticed that I misread your post, I thought you said public discussion of nerdy things was uncommon not that discussion about bad influences are uncommon. Sorry it's getting late and my englando translation module is working overtime. Yeah people don't really complain about stuff, but then again I don't think a lot of games where you're actively raping woman.
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I'd say

>people acting like a subsection of the UN not even the UN cares about is a big deal

but I have been banned from online communities for suggesting regulating what people can and cannot draw is retarded, so...yeah
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>>138629314

reddit is a goldmine for hilarious bullshit.
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>>138623052

You have no one to blame but yourself. You were warned.
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>>138629314
I don't disagree with Hashmir.
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>>138632409
>Thanks GooberGate
come on
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>>138623052
>tad bit
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>>138632409
>I have changed the content of my post after I noticed it was getting down votes
Jesus fucking christ.
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>>138632409
>>138632409
>who framed roger rabbit
Goddammit, Roger Rabbit did it again
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What is peoples fucking problem, I will never reproduce, just let me enjoy my girl cartoons.
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Why is still garbage still up.
>>>/trash/
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>>138623052
>trying to sound smart by pretending you don't pick sides in political discussions and writing like a faggot while still managing to start a sentence with a connective
Get a load of this faggot.
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I like Benio
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The world is getting dumber by the day. These fucking retarded laws. When people lose something valuable to fight for, they instead turn to fiction where they can pretend to be still important.
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>>138632887
memes
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>>138632409
Holy fucking shit.
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>>138632864
If you're not reproducing you're worthless.

So it goes.
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>>138632409
>Seems I'm being brigaded right now
I wonder why?
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>>138633036
They could just go and fight the muslims. But yeah they're too pussies to challenge anyone scarier than video game nerds.
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>>138633204
Modern feminists are a joke. Cowardice and hypocricy disguised with courage and revolution. The only revolution is fucking the already weak and leaving the actual menace be because women can't dare to piss of the religion that stones women and reduces them to mere cattle.
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Why do people always assume that if you fap to 2D loli, you want to rape 3D childrens, this is so retarded.
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So instead of helping actual women in danger these idiots are worrying about cartoons?

I hope the fujo kick their asses. They can be best girls too.
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>>138632409
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>>138632668
It's their white whale.
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>>138633319
Women in danger are in danger because of niggers and muslims. Feminists don't dare piss off niggers and muslims because they don't want to be branded racists and it takes actual courage fighting them.
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>>138633204
>>138633270

You fuckers are morons; what are they supposed to do, ask Saudi Arabia nicely to stop being a theocracy?

There are plenty of grassroots operations to help women both in the West and abroad, but you don't pay attention to that because it's not related to anime and video games.
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>>138633346
>#patreon
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>>138633402
Why would Saudi Arabia ask itself to stop stone women? You do realize that it's Saudi Arabia that's head of UN Human Rights? For making such a post, you sure do seem uninformed.
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>>138633402
What they should do is fuck off and stop telling other cultures what's right and wrong.
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>>138633402
>what are they supposed to do
Exactly, they can't do shit, so they should just shut their whore mouths about female equality.
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>>138633451
But they have to show their absolute power or all their progress will be undone.
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>>138629406
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT.
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>>138633488
By picking on social rejects who literally don't even leave their rooms for weeks? Sure showed their power now, and don't worry about rampant prostitution and muslims treating woman as dogs, those are fine and just show how strong woman are.
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Lewd anime is harmless. What is it with people wanting to dictate what other people can or can't enjoy? I wonder how they would feel if someone wanted to ban something they liked.
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>>138633578
There's nothing wrong with bullying the rejects of society. Maybe they'll learn to better themselves or take some led aspirin, thus cleansing society of worthless people.

Darwinism is a thing regardless of civilized society.

/edgepost
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>reddit screencaps
>SJWs
>videogames

>>>/v/
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>>138633680
That's the beauty of that logic. They don't think about how they might feel if it happened to them, because why would anyone disagree with them? Don't they see how perfect and righteous they are?
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>>138633747
Are you actually retarded?
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>>138633402
>Why would Saudi Arabia ask itself to stop stone women? You do realize that it's Saudi Arabia that's head of UN Human Rights? For making such a post, you sure do seem uninformed

That's the point, the UN is bed with the enemy. And why should Saudi Arabia ask itself to stop harming its citizens? Gee, I don't know, maybe it has something to do with the people in that country wanting a better quality of life.

>>138633451
If people are suffering, it's always wrong, culture be damned. The problem is that culture can't be changed overnight. It's going to take some great catalyst to change the attitudes of people in the Middle East and get them to fight off their oppressive way of life. That's why so many of them leave.

>>138633680
>lewd anime is harmless
Tell that to the state of the anime industry.
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>>138633752
>d-do I fit in yet?
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I'll never complain about fujos again if they're destroying western neo-feminists this hard. It's just a shame none of them exist outside Japan, that's one thing that never spread.
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>>138633680
Because fapping to cartoons doesn't help population. Or some spiel.

>>138633797
I'm saying in my ironic edgepost is either the rejects become normal people or kill themselves and that stronger animals pick on the weaker ones.
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>>138633820
>people in that country wanting a better quality of life
"People" already have a better quality of life, by putting cattle where it belongs.
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>>138631459
You have no clue about both science, the philosophy of science and philosophy in general, desu sempai.

>>138633578
Did you even read anything CEDAW published? All UN documents are freely available on their servers. If you had spent even a few minutes actually looking into what they wrote, you would've seen that portrayal of women in media is only one of 61 issues they highlighted in the last session regarding Japan. They don't even put any emphasis on it. In fact, one of the issues you just mentioned, prostitution, is highlighted much more.

The thing that worries me the most in this thread is that people get butthurt spouting other people's opinions without actually looking into the matter at all.
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>>138622198
This shit will never work on Japan when I visited every manga shop I went into was like 75% women believe it or not.
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>>138633928
This man is a brony
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>>138633820
>That's why so many of them leave.
People leave Middle East not because of how women are treated. Most refugees from ME are men that do the actual opression. They "flee" because Europe has free welfare money and blonde girls. That's it.

UN is retarded. David Cameron reduced it to an even greater joke when he assigned his butt buddies the Saudis as head of Human Rights.
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>>138632409
>hilarious
wish I could laugh at this shit, I really do
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>>138632409
>I'm getting downvotes, better change the content of my post!
Fuck, reddit is so stupid on a structural level. It literally encourages hivemind mentality.
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>>138633912
That doesn't make any sense though, you've said that they need to prove their absolute strength, well they ain't doing any of that. It's like saying that dude I fucking hate animals, then go and start kicking dirt at a skinny dog sitting in a hole, and when you're asked why aren't you fighting those bears ripping people apart 10 meters away then, you just say that uhhhh you need be .... uhhh accepting, for bears and... stuff. Aka just makes you look like a stupid clown.
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Question, hen and egg situation.

Did anime get more lewd because not enough normal people bought anime and sex sold, or were normal people put off because of too much lewd?
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>>138634034
Same. I want it to be funny, but to me it's really just unsettling that people like this even exist.
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>>138622198
holy shit this is fucking stupid are they going to ban porn too? am i going to get arrested for having a boner?

fuck it how do I go gay /a/ you guys sure seem to be masters of the trade.
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>>138633928
Sure, which is so many of them abandon their country?

>>138633961
>They don't even put any emphasis on it. In fact, one of the issues you just mentioned, prostitution, is highlighted much more.

The thing is, why attach anything about media at all? Mixing in something much more inconsequential with so many important things, it's like they don't actually want to get the bill passed at all.

>>138634009
Well, naturally with women and children being as oppressed as they are, it's not exactly going to be easy for them to escape that kind of life unless they're with a man. The ones do manage to make it deserve our help.
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>>138634051
Self-righteousness doesn't have to actually be righteous.

Just step on a couple of inferior degenerates and pat yourself on the back. The people who contribute nothing to society can't kill you so its fair.
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>>138633961
This just reminds me of >>138623145
What's the point of bitching about what's wrong in the world without having the power to actually do anything. How about they just shut their mouths.
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>>138634127
anime for normies and kids got less lewd due to parent complaints, actually
anime for otaku started pandering harder because there are more and more shows every year and studios and creators need everything they can to catch people's attention

manga has always been lewder than anime, anyway. there are a lot of smut/ecchi shoujo manga for teenage girls, even.
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>>138634250
>normies
Fuck off.
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>>138634192
Don't you understand what I just fucking wrote? The ones that flee to Europe from Middle-East are almost exclusively men. The few women that do flee are almost exclusively married with children. Your idea of refugees is tainted by politically correct misinformation. Young men are "fleeing" to Europe from Middle-East because they think that Europe is filled with money and blonde girls ripe for the fucking. I've talked to these people. Been with them longer than you have. You have no idea what your stupid high horse mentality is doing to the countries hosting these people. The mental gymnastics displayed show a severe cognitive dissonance.
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>>138634192
Saudi arabians? They only leave their countries to go to western universities and spend some of their pools of gold. You're thinking of syrians, afghans, iranians aka the niggers of the middle east.
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>>138634192
>The ones do manage to make it deserve our help.

No, you are free to help them in any way you wish, but other people and I don't owe them a thing.
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>>138634188
Look for the 'Japanese boy' threads.

Just keep it to yourself because as we see here;
>>138632409
They are prepared to ruin your life over it no matter where you sit on the privilege scale.
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>>138634247
>How about they just shut their mouths.

This kind of thinking is why Japan has suicide rates, because no one is willing to speak up.

Japan has bigger problems for the women--and the men!--living there than just muh anime, but the Japanese themselves need to fight against it, not the UN.

>>138634333
Then send the young men back, which is exactly what countries like Sweden is already doing.

>>138634343
I'll concede that SA is a poor example.

>>138634446
May you never be in a position where you need to flee your country.
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>>138634584
>May you never be in a position where you need to flee your country.
I sure hope I won't be, but that doesn't mean it'd be some random other people's national responsibility to take care of me. Of course, I'd be overjoyed if they did, but that's a different matter.
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>>138634652
Is wanting to live somewhere you can better your life the same as having someone take care of you?
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>>138634584
Uhhh no, japan has high suicide rates because they wanted to catch up from the economical decline and force their citizens into overworking. And it did work, japan is one of the most influential countries in the world. Stop making up random correlations. I'm pretty sure citizens of the country understand it as well, but that doesn't mean they can't break under the pressure.

Woman rights in places like syria or iran aren't nearly as bad as it is in saudi arabia. But guess what noone gives a shit because they're rich. Woman rights, is it actually a joke? See the answer after the commercial... Yes it is.
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>>138634584
The reason Japan has high suicide rates can actually be clearly understood when you consider their fucking stupid practice to put up a ranking of every single student for everyone to see all the way from elementary school.
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>>138634745
It is when you live on welfare
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>>138634745
It is if the only places you're willing to go are the ones you can get welfare in.
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>>138634584
I'd probably just live out the rest of my life in my war torn country until someone inevitably put a bullet in my head, I don't have it in me to just leave and start a new life from scratch in a new country.

If I really deserted my country, I would abandon my cultural identity forever and live in servitude for the new country I got to as gratitude.
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>>138634745
If you think that phrasing's too harsh, then change it to it's not their responsibility to help me. It makes no difference, it's still true.
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>>138634814
>>138634848
To be fair I don't think living on welfare is that bad if people are willing to pay it for you. But if they take you in then you shouldn't go around raping and beating young girls and forcing your religion on them. That's just being an actual monkey.
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Someone should mail them a copy of any work of Asanagi.
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Dammit /pol/. Stay in your containment board.
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>>138634796
>>138634807

That's just the point, policies like these are killing off their own people. If someone doesn't take a stand, it will just keep happening.

>>138634814
>muh welfare

>>138634930
Is it really anyone's responsibility to help anyone? Regardless of national identities or what have you.

>>138634931
If they were a monkey back in their home country, they'll be one in another country. Good immigrants already have a plan as to what they want and need to do to survive in a new country, even the poor ones.
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>>138635092
>mfw I just post muslim once in a dead thread and it gets on first page for an hour
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>>138635064
>not shiruka bakaudon
>not quzilax
>not kawady max
Nigger, what you doing? Although Asanagi would be funny.
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>>138634796
>Woman rights in places like syria or iran aren't nearly as bad as it is in saudi arabia. But guess what noone gives a shit because they're rich
This whole thread is a huge exercise of strawmanning.

Here, CEDAW regularly bitches about Saudi Arabia, too:
https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N07/296/67/PDF/N0729667.pdf?OpenElement

In fact, it makes recommendations for every UN country, be it Algeria, Italy, the USA, China or Japan.
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>>138635135
I highly doubt any of them wants to take a stand against it. They're proud of their achievements and giving their best for their country. And they're pretty well respected for it as well, don't make up problems for people who don't think they have problems.


Yeah it's called welfare, raping and beating a blonde girl and if they get caught they sit around in a prison cell for a year getting three meals a day and a better room than their richest person had at their hometown.
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>>138635199
Asanagi may not be the edgiest but it certainly is the one that depicts cock addiction the best.
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>>138635240
And then they get told to stfu by everyone. What a nice and useful organisation.
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>>138635280
>don't make up problems for people who don't think they have problems.

If they didn't have problems, they wouldn't be killing themselves.
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>>138622198
>200 posts
>no child bearing hips etc.
/a/ is dead
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>>138635358
That's just like, your opinion man. Calling a whole culture bad because of your views is pretty ignorant. Suicide has been part of a japanese man's honor for thousands of years. You can't just suddenly tell them that they can't do it because you said so.
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>>138629314
Like I wont disagree that harem shows are shit but man.

>Kyouko223
>"People shouldn't be allowed to enjoy things that I don't like! Who cares if it's not real!"
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>>138629314
But harems are shit
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>>138635357
The power of persuasion can vastly outperform an army.

In the case of Japan, for example, you'd see that they actually accepted proposals of previous sessions and formed them into laws, like those regarding spousal violence.

Honestly, you have pretty simplistic notions of the interactions between international organizations, governments, ministerial bureaucrats and populaces.
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>>138635750
>The power of persuasion can vastly outperform an army.
Ahahahaha sure, good luck at beating saudi arabia in a war then to liberate their livestock I mean woman.
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>>138635750
>spousal violence
I'm sure that only applies to people. Marrying your daki doesn't give it human rights because it isn't a person. It would only make sense to have these laws by now
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>>138631496
>As a straight dude I've greatly enjoyed Free!
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I think we should just mail the UN loads and loads of hentai and win them over to our side. Sure, they'll be powerless to aid us in any meaningful way, but it would be nice to have a friend.
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>>138635841
>It would only make sense to have these laws by now
And yet it took them a half century longer than comparable countries.
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>>138635750
Well I mean, the UN was constantly bitching about our country building fences to stop immigrants getting in and the government pretty just replied with "fuck off retards. And then that was that so yeah I'm pretty sure noone actually gives a shit about anything significant they say.
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>>138631583
that's because there are no figures of old hags :(
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>>138635943
Point being?
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>BL Novelist

What does this mean?
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>>138636152

BL = /y/
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>>138623636
>No black women, the most oppressed of all
>A male authority looking over them under the shadow of the Amerikkkan flag as an obvious nod to the patriarchy

Triggered
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>>138629314
Did they bitch when Japan's woman association told UN to fuck off?
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>>138636152
newfag checker
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>>138636170
/y/ is yaoi, BL is boys love
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>>138636009
>noone
It's
no-one
no one
or nobody.

There is a reason why that red squiggly line appears when you type "noone"
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>>138636200

Same fucking thing, from a straight anons perspective.
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>>138636242
A guy can be attracted to another guy while still being straight, anon.
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>>138636204
I have red squiggly lines on every English word because it checks the spelling for my native.
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>>138636021
>:(
Kill yourself.
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>>138636303
Noone is one of my English pet peeves. Every time I see someone use it my mind instinctively reads it as though they are talking about Peter Noone from Herman's Hermits.
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>>138635814
>good luck at beating saudi arabia in a war
pretty easy t.bh
goes double for the smaller arab states, like Qatar, where you just need a few tanks to stage a coup (and this has been done before)
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>>138636499
I feel you, whenever someone mixes then and than or writes "should of" I just want to slap them.
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>>138636301
>A guy can be attracted to another guy while still being straight, anon.

Is this the new "feminine penis"?

Fuck off faggot.
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You guys should read the full address to the UN by that one women representative.

It's pretty nice seeing people stand up to bullshit and being put in their place by who they believe should be on their side.

http://pastebin.com/iMpUZuQc
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>>138636204
>somebody, someone
>anybody, anyone
>everybody, everyone
>nobody, no-one

Explain this
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>>138636550
Okay good luck with it then.
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>>138632409
There are so many people like this, that seriously think like this, it's awful.

None of them actually give a shit about victims of sexual violence or the victims of rape or anything - if they did, they'd be out there volunteering, counseling, getting an education in psychology so they can truly help, etc. Instead they just want to grandstand. Belittling others from a moral high ground gives them a high, and if you dare argue with them, you get screamed at for being a pedophile/rape apologist/etc.
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>>138636191
No sign of any post about in /r/anime though. Just seasonal anime posts and the same handful of topics that are there any time I poke my head in the door over there. For example: "What's so special about anime that sets it apart from Western media?". That place is full of teenagers who think they're special because they watch anime.
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>>138636749
Nobody is really writing about it because it's not part of the narrative. Seeing women reject this whole retarded phase of overly sensitive bitching about fictional content doesn't fit in their agenda.
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>>138637008
My thoughts exactly. I know criticising the site is a meme at this stage, but reddit is such an unfathomable shithole.
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Is there any anti japan comments made y land whales that are all like "how dare japan not follow the UN rules those misogynistic bastards" or something like that, I kinda wanna laugh
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>>138622308
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>>138635448
>muh honor

Do you think Japanese culture has been in a bubble for the last 200 years?
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You should post cute girls in swimsuits and/or showing their midriffs
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>>138637266
>seriously replying to satire
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>>138637198

Stop trying. This is now a /pol/ containment thread, has been ever since they started shitposting.
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>>138637266
That's very ignorant of you to say. Don't question the ways of glorious dainippon.
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>>138637159
The sites that are anti-Japan simply don't report this because seeing women reject retarded laws ruin the narrative. It's all about presenting the right information and withholding the wrong info.
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>>138637323
I wish I could believe that that anon was joking, I really do.
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Doesn't the UN currently have a muslim as their human rights adviser, or some other ridiculous bullshit like that?
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>>138637387
>waaa waaa killing yourself is wrong!
Go home christian cucks.
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>>138637106
Four ears?
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>>138637442
Headband
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>>138637424
I don't believe that suicide is evil but I don't necessarily believe it's "right" either. I would prefer if it people didn't feel like they needed to kill themselves in order for their lives to be better.
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>>138637411
Yeah that shit was hella funny. I remember reading some article that was saying that UN human rights adviser Abdul al Alhamirmonkeyman condones eastern european countries for not accepting a limitless number of muslim immigrants.
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>>138635690
That is true, it's just that those retards dislike it for all the wrong reasons, except for the last guy, he actually makes a solid point.
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>>138637106
>7-2
Is this some advanced form of bullying?
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>>138637528
It's literally part of the japanese culture though, just going "lelele it doesn't fit with my perspective therefore you're an idiot xD" is just actual autism.
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>>138637574
....I don't get it.
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>>138637574
Seems pretty pedestrian to me.
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>>138637574
Yes
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>>138637594
>we have to like everything about certain cultures or else we're autists/racists

If I were complaining about some facet of Middle Eastern culture, like Islam, would you still be spouting the same opinion?
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>>138637713
Japanese keep to themselves. No problem with that
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>>138637713
I think you're talking about two different things. The other anon seems to think you're >>138637266 and is attacking that guy's perspective, but you seem to be a different anon who butted in without reading the conversation.
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>>138637754
From your perspective, yes, but not from mine. We'll have to agree to disagree.

>>138637764
No, I'm the same anon.
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>>138636707
>Belittling others from a moral high ground gives them a high
That's exactly what this thread is about, too - look how stupid these redditors and feminists and the UN are! Look at them and laugh! Not that you're wrong, but there's a reason this sort of shit usually gets rerouted to /v/, it's just circlejerking that has very little to do with anime.
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>>138637713
Just saying but it's their culture, they don't consider it a problem, so there's no reason for some foreigner to decide for them that it's their problem. Also there's a difference between suicide for restoring your honor if you feel like you've failed your life and promoting rape and beheadings. The two aren't really comparable.
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>>138637829
Mmm no I think you're just an idiot.
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>>138637857
I don't know if suicide is really about honor that much in modern Japanese culture. It seems more to be about not wanting to live with the shame, which is the other side of the coin but not the exact same thing. Glorious seppuku is pretty much dead, nowadays they jump onto the subway or wander into the forest and hang themselves.
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>>138622198
>fujos saving anime and manga
What a day to be alive. I won't make fun of them or yaoi ever again.
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>>138637856

Butthurt feminist detected.

>That's exactly what this thread is about, too
No one is trying to hold the moral high ground, they're just laughing at easily offended retards who want everything banned to protect their feelings.
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>>138637946
fat
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We need a new fucking Hitler.
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>>138638057
>anyone who doesn't want to talk about social issues and post images of Reddit is a feminist
Fuck off.
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>>138638147
Why?
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>>138638057
He's right, though, this is about as /a/ as "post cringey Youtube reviewers, guys!"
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>>138637857
>Just saying but it's their culture, they don't consider it a problem

Can you show me some proof of this? Do you live in Japan? Are you Japanese? How do you know what they don't consider a problem? The Japanese keep to themselves after all.
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>>138637856
This thread isn't a circlejerk. There have been posters defending UN. I disagree with them but I won't argue against them expressing themselves. Usually their arguments are pretty easy to debunk anyways.
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>>138638024
It pretty much is, you could probably spend a couple of months digging up resources on japanese culture to figure out their views on suicide. If I had to theorise though then I'd say that japan always had difficult terrain and low resources. So they couldn't sustain extra mouths, but still you wouldn't just execute your fellow even if he is useless. So instead of being a burden on everyone they would choose suicide and thus making a sacrifice for their community, which is honorable. And it still holds nowadays, Japan isn't exactly a luxury state, it can't really allow freeloaders. It might be off the mark but it seems like a pretty reasonable theory. Samurai as higher ranked people had their ceremonies, but for commoners suicide by hanging and jumping off cliffs have always been pretty common.
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>>138638244
Mashiro is the only reason 90% of people watched this and you know it.
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>>138638216
Calhoun was right, we experience a behavioral sink atm!
And no, refugees dont solve the issue, they just prolong it...
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>>138635690
But they keeping true and most horrible cancer from reddit and other vile places at bay. Harems literally saving /a/nime and m/a/nga.
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>>138638274
How do you know it's a problem? Do you live in Japan? Are you Japanese?
Yeah, right.
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>>138638057
If you read the rebuttal to the UN, it's clearly from a feminist perspective, and the "feminists" who want to ban certain kinds of media are doing so less from a desire to help and more from a desire to demonize. I'm a feminist and I think it's important that freedom of speech be preserved, including loli rape manga.
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>>138622198
Holy shit Kobeni is so fucking fat!
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>>138638342
Sorry, I don't understand, hehe.
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>>138638278
>There have been posters defending UN.
That was pretty much all just me. If you quoted all of the posts defending the UN, I could show you a screencap of 90% of those showing a "(You)".
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>>138638405
>If you quoted all of the posts defending the UN, I could show you a screencap of 90% of those showing a "(You)".
Don't worry, I could too.
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>>138638405
Yes, and I tried to explain as civil as possible why you were wrong. Or are you really this dense that the very moment someone disagrees with you, you call for the discussion to be removed? Don't blame me your arguments were razor-thin.
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>>138629314
Neat. Reddit has almost the exact same ratio of complete retard to actually logical person as /a/.
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>>138623057
philosophy is just applied greek literature
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Why are progressive groups vying for bans on so many things nowadays? It's like they want chastity standards to return to preindustrial levels, except it only applies under some magical circumstances. Political correctness has thoroughly gone awry in the west.
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>>138638366
>I think it's important that freedom of speech be preserved, including loli rape manga

It's not as if the average person in Japan thinks raping little children is acceptable or wants such things in their media. They're probably just as disgusted by the idea as the "feminists", but instead they tackle it by making it a moral issue instead of a legal one. When I say moral issue, I mean in the sense that Japanese culture isn't encouraging people to make loli rape doujins.
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>>138638605
How many of these do you got?
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>>138622308
>benis
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>>138638535
>you call for the discussion to be removed?
You were actually replying to a different guy than >>138637856 just now and that guy doesn't even have to be pro-UN to want this discussion to be deleted.
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Fujos are doing it right. Instead of complaining about the oversexualization of women, they just sexualize men and turn them into faggots. True equality should strive to give more to the other gender, not take away from the one which is benefiting.
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>>138622378
That's not how you use that meme.
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>>138635170
God, I love the faces this bitch makes.
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>>138622308
>That thigh gap
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>>>/v/
>>>/pol/
Fuck off with this offtopic crossboarder shit.
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>>138629314
the butthurt
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>>138638410
Shake those porkchops, gurl!
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>>138634188
Today I had to hear how porn leads to rape, despite the fact that it is easy to prove that countries where the most porn is consumed per capita are down in the rapes per capita lists; the same holds true for historical trends.

The two are however hardly correlated, but it is still funny how stupid people can be.
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>>138638783
This desu

It's too bad that America is filled with spoiled brats who see giving help to others as taking something away from them.
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>>138638803
Is that good or bad, Joey?
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>>138631459
Spooks: The Post.

>mfw you've never even read Hume
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>>138638931
It's a bad. Legs should not be that far apart.
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>>138638366
>I'm a feminist

Hey look everyone, a faggot!

>I think it's important that freedom of speech be preserved, including loli rape manga.
Yes, instead we should tackle important issues in the Western world like the mythical wage gap, manspreading, fart rapes, pushing affirmative consent laws that make it so you have to scream "YES I WANT TO HAVE SEX" before having sex otherwise you can be accused of rape, and complaining about men liking cute/sexy women in media. Those are the important issues we have to face in the current year. EQUALITY NOW! (that was the group that tried to get Rapelay banned by the way)

There was a convention for feminists in Montreal recently, and they were trying o come up with reasons why feminism is still needed in 2016. One of the reporters asked all of them "do you think you can be for equal rights without calling yourself a feminist?" and she said most of them answered "no".
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>>138633961
I am an engineer I apply the scientific method every day of my life and have done so ever since I entered college.

The difference between a scientist and a philosopher is that both look for answers but the scientist will use a model and try to find the limitations of their models and predict the curse of nature with math to apply that knowledge on other areas later. A philosopher finds a possible answer and never bothers to look if its right or wrong or how can be applied to other areas.
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>>138622198
BL will save loli.
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>>138639001
her boobies are heavenly soft
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>>138639056
>predict the curse of nature
That's witchcraft, not science.
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>>138636627
It is a great rebuttal, indeed.
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>>138639036
I agree completely. My rule of thumb is that a thigh gap should be no larger than a thumb width across, and small enough to feel nice if you stick your dick in it.
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Stop posting Kobeni, it's making my dick hurt.
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>>138636631
Because someone a billion years ago decided to spell it so it would look less retarded and counterintuitive, even though half of English looks retarded and counterintuitive.
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>>138639069
Shota will save loli.
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>>138639239
Maybe the article is defending Japan's right to preserve their loli porn?
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>>138639239
>child porn comics
>shows image of what clearly isn't a child

Getting some mixed signals here
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>>138639056
You're talking under the very prejudiced assumption that all philosophers are inherently stupid while mathematicians are completely logical.
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>>138639239
>Rules don't apply to me, only to other people
I fucking hate this mentality. Why can't people just grow the fuck up and take responsibility for things?
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>>138639239
Wow, it's almost like media organizations consist of more than one writer writing all the articles! I guess that doesn't fit with the tinfoil hat conception of media, where all is controlled by one magical being behind the curtain.
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>>138639328
Fuck off with that image.
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>>138639320
In my experience is not that philosophers are stupid, is that they are too stupid for math or actual science. A scientist test their theories in practices and theoretically, A philosopher only talks or writes about shit but never bother to prove his points in reality. For them Gravity isn't a theory but rather an idea and never bother to test it, that is why most of the modern inventions come from science and the efforts coming from the scientific approach. The only reason why we are still struggling with how to build a society is because we never gave the scientific approach a chance at building a society and we still believe the retards that can't understand shit would be able to create a working system.
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>>138639315
In the western world, anything less than 18 is a child. That looks like a schoolgirl, so therefore she might as well be a toddler. Same thing, right?
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>>138637401
That navel, I'd lick it.
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>>138639239
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>>138636627
>and being put in their place by who they believe should be on their side.

It doesn't matter. Progressivism is logic- and evidence-proof.

It's not about finding truth (they couldn't care less), it's not about improving the world (their policies more often than not end up hurting people, like destroying the traditional family, social trust, gender roles).

I don't fucking know what they actually want. Is it just about showing how rightful, morally superior are? Do they just hate men? Or do they just want to watch the world burn?
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>>138638608
If you don't want people whining about "X" thing to be an eternal squeaky wheel and such.
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>>138639608
>western world
More like Murrikkka. Because the age of consent in Europe is between 13 to 18 with the majority between 14-16.
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>>138639697
Rising.
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>>138639608
It's pretty stupid when we have the hard cold facts to tell how damaging sexual activity with adults is to prepubescent children, but Americans get so bent out of shape over sexual activity between adolescents.

Wanting to get rid of toddlercon is one thing, but muh under 18 is nothing but Puritanical nonsense.
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Ok you win Kobeni-posting faggot, I'm going to masturbate!
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>>138639047
(cont.)
>EQUALITY NOW! (that was the group that tried to get Rapelay banned by the way)

Speaking of that, it reminded me of threads people had on /v/, /a/ and /jp/ about the subject so I looked it up.

https://foolz.fireden.net/a/thread/28751200/#28751200
https://foolz.fireden.net/a/thread/21657759/

Seems the UN is still at it, I can't wait for the 2020 Olympics.
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>>138639561
Even if we ran on scientific logic we'd get a couple of undesirables
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>>138629314
These pretentious faggots really don't understand that the vast majority of products in any medium are generally just cheaply-produced trash built to pander in the basest way possible for maximum sales
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>>138639723
>>138639793
>none of Mashiro
I will riot.
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>>138639813
The UN will finally destroy Japan's lewd sins and make a pure world.

Probably because they released a few psychotic falseflags to live in Japan
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>>138639859
You can thank the UN for that. It's also the reason why we have no loli service nowadays.
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>>138639917
>pure world
How can it be pure if homosexuals will be literally allowed to engage in fucking in public?
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>>138639561
Your experience seems very limited and based on more retarded assumptions than most third rate philosophers, instead of analysis and observation. Don't lump everyone together, try to understand the different drive, aim and tools at the disposal of each group. There have been many logical, intelligent and self-aware people in the history of mankind, and they've spent their lives cultivating different fields: from music to poetry. Some of the most intelligent people to ever exist have done nothing at all. Also, some brilliant and renowned scientists have fallen pray to irrational thought and superstition as well.

Oh, and let us not forget the role philosophy played in birthing the scientific theory, which is the only one thing to describe science as a whole.

>scientific approach a chance at building a society
Now you're implying that hard science can unequivocally apply to anything trivially, which is, again, hardly the case. Any "scientific approach" to society building would simply be someone's opinion on how a society should operate being forced upon everyone else. Which, on the other hand, is not so different from what we've had or are complaining about in this thread.
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>>138639859
Someone else can do that.
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>>138639938
It look really weird that her legs are totally slender and her ass is so fat.
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>>138639858
If that's the case, why are bad harem shows still being made? Most of them aren't huge moneymakers.
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>>138622399

>Society has moved way past the idea that video games cause bad behavior.

Not just yet.

I don't believe that they'll win this war, mind you, but universities are turning into a sanctuary for the idea that women are perpetual victims in 2016.

Pretty sad, considering that it has no foundation in fact whatsoever, and feminists actively work against the things that universities are supposed to represent, like open, objective discussion.
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>>138636631
Because Someone, anyone, everyone don't have fucking repeating vowels next to each other.

oo sounds different than o o
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>>138640002
Promoting the shitty LN/VN they were adapted from.
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Do you think Kobeni is UN approved because of her chunky body?
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>>138639979
Where is this place in Japan where people fuck in public? Please tell me. I need to know.
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>>138640030
>like open, objective discussion.

When was this ever true in America?

Universities have been little more than circlejerks for the elite of society, only in recent decades has this idea that universities are supposed to be these places of "free thought".

Stop making it so that everyone and their mom needs a degree to make a living and put universities back behind a pay wall, that's how to deal with the problems of modern colleges.
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>>138639680
No, this makes sense. They sacked people for sharing CP, so they're obviously against it.
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>>138640030
>universities are turning into a sanctuary for the idea that women are perpetual victims in 2016

This is the thing that bothers me the most. Universities are too often a grounds for cultivating a very specific political point of view. This does not only undermine their very goals of preserving and expanding knowledge, but it also favors the assumption that such views should be associated with the kind of rational discussion one would expect universities to endorse.
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>>138640002
Because most anime will maybe make marginal profits. The shows with lower expectations have lower effort put into them.
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>>138640241
The other one also makes sense. CP is not free speech, even if it's drawn.
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>>138622925
If it weren't for fujos you wouldn't have traps to fap to. They evolved from bishounen characters.
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>>138639993
Well I am an engineer, I surround myself with people that studied science and the people that didn't usually work low wages jobs at my company.

Even then the people I knew at college that study retarded social studies are making either little money or working on whatever they can because their degree is worthless.

I can't take your guys seriously and never will.

>>138639993
>Now you're implying that hard science can unequivocally apply to anything trivially, which is, again, hardly the case. Any "scientific approach" to society building would simply be someone's opinion on how a society should operate being forced upon everyone else. Which, on the other hand, is not so different from what we've had or are complaining about in this thread.

Yeah, but there is a key difference. If I tell you that the Earth rotates around the Sun, you can actually test it yourself, on paper or on practice. If we come to tell you that our approach is better than your retarded social studies way, you will have not just our "opinion" on it but also the tools to test that our way is actually the best one.

But I guess someone that never took a class of some real science will never understand that. The knowledge science gives you aren't "subjective", they are objective trues that you can test for yourself and challenge them and update them or refute them if you find out that you have the best model to explain something that will update a previous model or expand their borders where the models work. So yeah I have no doubt that scientist would create a better way to live in society than the retards that take classes in women's studies, social studies, philosophy or whatever, I give thanks that in my country I don't have to pay with my taxes the college for the retards that take this courses that will ended up working cleaning tables.
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>>138622198
>Read the translated reply
>One of their points is how reality and fiction are different
Why do people seem to find this point so hard to accept?

>>138640312
It isn't CP, it is a drawing. Unless it is an accurate sketch of an actual naked child, then it isn't CP
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>>138639791
I mean honestly, let's face it. Teenagers are ruining their lives in way worse ways by doing way worse things than fucking adults.

I'm sick of society and the law babying teenagers. They're old enough to know what they're doing. The dumb little shits.
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>>138639561
>In my experience is not that philosophers are stupid, is that they are too stupid for math or actual science
Do you know how many notable philosophers were also mathematicians or scientists?
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>>138640460
Do you really think teens should be arrested for having sex with one another?
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>>138640485
I think it's the difference between the university student who did philosophy because their GPA wasn't high enough for any other field, and the guy who got his degree in math, science, and philosophy because he was capable of all of it.

It's more like mathematicians and scientists who also do philosophy than philosophers who also do math and science.
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>>138640485
A lot, but most of their legacy was always around science.

I don't give a shit about philosophy because science has changed our world and our well being in ways philosophy never did. We still study Plato or whatever now but that shit gave us nothing of value. Meanwhile Newton, Faraday and Einstein basically gave us everything we see today.
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>>138633680
Something like that sort of happened where an American cartoon got a scene of a gay couple dancing partially edited when it was localized to the UK. They were not happy.
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>>138640563
I want to know how you interpreted the sentences I wrote to think that was what I meant. Please describe to me, in detail, your thought process.
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Is this the Kobeni thread?
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No dessert for you, Kobeni!
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>>138632409
>thought about turning his friend into the police over cartoon porn
With friends like these you need no enemies I guess.
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>>138640683
Because you went off on a tangent that was unrelated to what I posted.
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>>138640684
Yes, please post your rare kobenis.
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>>138640886
S O F T
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>>138640372
I have studied economics and international business as well as computer engineering, and I managed to score top of my class both times. I have met retarded people in both places, and while there are differences on average, average people are hardly ever studied or paid attention to in the long term, at least in from an academical point of view. The man I've grown to respect the most based on his intelligence, I met while working at a consulting firm.

>Even then the people I knew at college that study retarded social studies are making either little money or working on whatever they can because their degree is worthless.
I was raking in far more money in a consulting firm than I likely ever will agian in my life, but I'd rather spend my life studying and masturbating to hentai in my spare time.

>If we come to tell you that our approach is better than your retarded social studies way
Again, you seem to be under the assumption that not being able to reach an absolute conclusion means no valuable knowledge can be obtained at all. You also seem to be confusing engineering with science, which ows to the scientific method alone. As an engineer, I believe that this is a very sorry mistake to be making.
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>>138640791

Do you not remember writing these?
>Americans get so bent out of shape over sexual activity between adolescents
>muh under 18 is nothing but Puritanical nonsense

I think it's pretty directly related. I was agreeing with you, dumbass, and I didn't say a thing about teenagers fucking each other, either.
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>>138640434
>Fictions is not the same as reality

Wait? What did i live all this time then?
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>>138639047
>look at quoted post
>literally none of that was mentioned
I think you're the faggot here anon
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>>138640967
>I'm sick of society and the law babying teenagers

That just threw me off, I guess. I shouldn't be so reactionary.
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>>138640992
Go out and ask people if a cartoon child is child porn, or if rape hentai/vidya is just as bad as reality. 9/10 people will say yes because they have weird, messed up views of the world.
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>>138641014
Rather than a captcha, I think 4chan should mandate a reading comprehension test.
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>>138632409
>this should carry over to fantasies
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I hate you all to death for underposting Mashiro.
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>>138640845
But then they won't be rare any more.
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>>138640372
You are so incredibly spooked it's almost embarrassing.
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>>138640208
Pretty sure the pay wall is already up.
But then
>limiting higher education
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>>138632745
and reddit wonders why they're not allowed here
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I don't think teenagers should be allowed have sex at all. Anybody under-18s caught having sex should be incarcerated until they are 18, regardless of gender.
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>Reading this kind of manga gives modernday people a way to imagine the great pain these women experienced.

fujos have a good point there...
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>>138641177
>not limiting higher education

The idea that everyone needs to go to college is only something that has been pushed in the last few decades.
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>never ever
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>>138641289
It is not inherently a bad thing for people to have a better education when the possibility is there. The problem lies within the fact that retards seem to feel entitled to a good job and respect after a mediocre performance at university. If uni is for everyone, it won't set you apart from the rest of the world, and maybe it should not.
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>>138641200
Just because we missed out on PTP doesn't mean we should ruin it for everyone else.
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Japanese female writers agree with male writers that women suck and they can only be useful as sex toys or housewives. See shoujo. Also, the average Japanese female reader is comfortable with her inferiority
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>>138641445
>PTP
Wut?

My plan would have no negative consequences anyway, so it's solid to the core.
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>>138641490
>the average Japanese female reader is comfortable with her inferiority
Why don't Western women realise that this is all we desire from them?
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>>138641289
Mind you, I'm European so I was drilled ( and I agree) with the idea that everyone should have equal opportunities, no matter the background.
After that it's up to the individual.
I'd like to know on which criteria would you limit higher education.
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>>138641532
Pre-teen pounding?
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>>138622198
this is hilarious
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Missed one.
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>>138641532
Prime teen pussy.
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>>138641173
HAHAHAHA, I am not the one studying and getting into debt to get a worthless degree.

>>138640926
>Again, you seem to be under the assumption that not being able to reach an absolute conclusion means no valuable knowledge can be obtained at all.
I never said that. I am saying that the scientific method isn't been applied to how to create a society and never has been. We build our societies based on the "moral" and the "feelings" of the average people or the ruling class., which is why we still have retarded notions like sexism, segregation, etc etc which are all based on the lack of understanding of the world of the most stupid side of our society and also for the lack of self awareness of the retards that keep believing the world is what they want to make out of it and not what it is. When you have "feminist" arguing that there are no tangible difference between a man and a women then you already know that there discussion is fucking pointless and stupid and when you have a society that believe that men are better or women are better or whatever then that retarded view is dropped into politics and it affects how we build our society because we can't single out the stupidity of people and have to take it into account into the system.

This goes for all systems of government and economic systems. And I truly believe a group of scientist can create a working system if people are willing to accept their own stupidity as they do with the rest of the facts they take as given instead of trying to disprove them.

>You also seem to be confusing engineering with science, which ows to the scientific method alone.
I am sorry but I fail to see how engineering isn't science, it is applied physics, sure I don't do theoretical physics but that isn't something is far of my reach if I try to get to study into it, I am just fare more attracted towards applying in our world the knowledge science gave us to improve our lives now and not in the future.
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>>138641565
Because it's not about what we want but what they want, except most of those female spend their hard earned money on misoginistic fantasies like 50 shades
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>>138641694
>HAHAHAHA, I am not the one studying and getting into debt to get a worthless degree.
Sure doing a good job living up to that STEM elitist stereotype, m8. Why not go and have a wank while thinking about your career, because evidently it's the only thing you deem to have any merit in life.

t. a STEM student who isn't a fucking moron.
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>>138641694
I don't think you understand how society works. If you can make a society that works if everyone accepts their own stupidity and ignore their morals and feelings, you haven't made a working society because that will never happen.
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>>138641405
>>138641571
The problem is that in the US there are a lot of people that take worthless degrees and ended up working in the service industry making really little money and blaming the system that they are going broke. If the US decided to open up the floodgates and give every retarded highschool teenager a chance at college at the cost of the tax payer it will create more and more instances where people will peruse worthless degrees and working in the service industry and the people of the US will be the ones paying for it. Fuck that.
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>>138641694
Is anybody else witnessing this? This guy must have walked straight out of reddit or something.
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>>138641694
Did you actually just blame segregation on the fact that our society is based on morals?
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>>138640208
>put universities back behind a pay wall, that's how to deal with the problems of modern colleges.
having much higher standards with greater difficulty would probably be a better way to limit education.
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you should kill ureself if you cant enjoy harems
no different from mal and reddit trash
good thing japan doesn't give a fuck and never will
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>>138641922
Yes, how is that hard to get? Morals chance from every society according to their own values and costume, which is retarded as fuck. And building a society upon them is also retarded and non efficient.
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>>138641694
It's been a while since I last wrote a couple full paragraphs to discuss some inane shit on an anonymous imageboard; you're either very young and inexperienced or not very bright.

This is not our personal blog and I'd rather drop this conversation now, but just so you know, I never defended any of your dreaded "feminist" points of view, and I would not give a shit about that if it really didn't affect the sphere of my daily life until I'm six feet under, although it seems to have found a way into mainstream society and caused some stuff to be partially censored. It's sadly not the only stupid shit I have to put up with, nor the worst.

>>138641844
It does however raise the bar to some extent, even if slightly so. The problem lies within people wanting to be special snowflakes, but I believe that's a result of a much more social and interconected society due to social media. I'm glad I don't have any.
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>>138641844
See
>>138641960
That's a way.
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>>138641216
You're a monster, anon.
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>>138641060
10 out of 10 people are retarded anyway so why should i give a fuck?
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>>138641216
>this kind of manga gives modernday people a way to imagine the great joys these women experienced.
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>>138642170
Because you live in a society with them and their views of the world affects your world thanks to the stupid system we have build.
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>>138642170
Because their retarded opinions are what change the law to make watching animu harder than it should be.
Loli hentai is illegal in so many countries.It's fictional. It literally harms nobody.
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>>138641490
>>138641716
Yeah, good thing male fantasies never involve misandry or abused male leads. That would be a sign of male inferiority, right?
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>>138641216
Damn time to fap again.
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>>138642438
That is a sign that some people find hot to be beaten up by a woman.
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>>138641694
So do you want reform society or only change the government group with a scientist one?
Couldn't clearly read that
On another matter what do you think about ethics?
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>>138641844
>muh worthless degrees

When will this meme die? People are told they need to go to college in order to be educated or they need college to get a job, you can't have both.

>>138641571
By getting rid of the notion that people need to obtain BA degrees just to make a living, which is the idea that's being pushed here in America. Of course, that would mean that employers would have to pay their employees living wages; college graduates would still make more for specialized fields, like STEM, but no one would need to get a STEM degree just to make a living.
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>>138642438
>slave to a loli tsundere bitch
>forced by magic to love her
>forced by magic to not care about going home
I love the series as much as the next person but I'd never want to be in Saito's shoes. His life is fucked up and he's made to enjoy it.
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>>138642332
>>138642318
Still not giving a fuck, as long as i can do shit pretty easily.
On a serious note, every time some fucktard like that and i meet, i am this close to committing a murder
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>>138623411
When he will do his keikaku and take the world?
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>>138642438
>misandry

but thats not real.
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>>138641490
>women suck and they can only be useful as sex toys or housewives

not all women suck or can be useful for sex toys and housewives

not all women can't be mothers either
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all this 3dpd talk on my 2d board.
newfags everywhere
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>a guy in my country was caught with 18 "animated pictures that show sexual abuse of children"
>6 months
And then you have gang rapes where some offenders even get off with community service
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>>138642835
DINK OF DA CHILLUNS
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>>138642835
sweden?
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>>138622198
>
We do acknowledge that manga depicting sexual violence cause great discomfort to some people. However, the decision to outright prohibit the distribution of a particular kind of speech should never be based solely on people's feelings of discomfort, or their moral judgments.
Feelings of comfort or discomfort, or moral judgments, vary greatly from person to person, from region to region, from culture to culture, and from society to society. There is no guarantee whatsoever that society A will have the exact same moral values as society B. It follows that when one society elevates its values above those of all other societies, conflict will be the result.

Based Japan.
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>>138642888
Norway, we're just lagging a bit behind.
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>>138642888
I fucking hope not. I happen to live in that shitheap of a country.

>>138642937
Too close.
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>>138642835
Source?
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>>138642584
>slave to a loli tsundere bitch
>forced by magic to love her
>forced by magic to not care about going home

What? Never watched ZnT
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>>138642991
http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/8054971/
No English source, sorry. It's in the 0-20 section, second to last on the left column.
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>>138643016
The slave crest on him forces Saito to love Louise and forget about wanting to go home. A kind of magical leash to keep the pet from leaving the master. It's brought up after he almost dies and wants to have the crest renewed.
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>>138642491
And some women find it hot to be dominated by men. Thing is, I'm not dumb enough to judge their taste in mindless fiction and assign some stupid politically charged meaning to it.
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the one thing you can count on at the end of the day is the japanese loathing of anyone else telling them what to do.
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>>138643436
You say that now but before the olympics there'll be internal pressure from their own government to change and become a more "accepting" culture.
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>>138643478
Just like the chinese got rid of all their slums instead of hiding them screens
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>>138643436
Seems like an appropriate time for that 'Kubo: Fuck you and I made lots of money' image.

All I can find at the moment is this.
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>>138643478
>Abe
>giving a shit about any of that

Yeah no, also the games take place in Tokyo which is already used to tourists. Not sure where this meme game from that you get spit at on the streets but people are plenty accepting in the city as long as you are not a dick which is not on the Japanese people.
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>>138643478
Not really. They'll police Roppongi more and maybe the magazines will have to mind their mosaics more, but no apocalypse of the kind alarmists keep shitposting about is going to happen.
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>>138642536
Ideally I would remove goverment and re think the branches of power of being based on our moral views to be based on scientific facts. Currently the discussion of every social issue is based on morality and I find that to be not just inefficient but also stupid.

Morality is malleable, it changes not based on facts or knowledge but based on our fears, and lack of understanding. Currently we are still having a discussion if Global Warming is real or not, that is fucking stupid. Or even worse we are still discussing if Evolution should be taught in schools or not. This discussion is only possible because we take into consideration the "feelings" worse parts of our society and economic system. Our form of goverment is archaic and out of touch with the type of social evolution we have been going for centuries now and mostly powered by our constant evolution of our understanding of the world thanks to the application of the scientific method.
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>>138643899
That which is morally wrong should be treated as taboo, that which is empirically (or as close as humans can get to that) wrong should be forbidden by laws.

Y/N?

Governments will always lag behind the time because they are establishments where as the behavior of those to be governed is emergent.
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GO NIPPON!
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>>138643899
This is why minimum voting age should be raised to thirty.
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>>138629314
>implying IS and all battle academy harems aren't awful
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>>138644195
That would help, but not for the reasons you are suggesting.
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>>138622198
Name one good thing the UN has done. It's just more tax, tension, and dick waving. 9X% of those even apart of it are irrelevant.

Fuck off.
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>>138644149
Again what is morally wrong is changeable according to the social evolution you are talking in consideration. For example in Saudi Arabia is morally right to kill someone because they left their religion or talk shit about Islam. In the US is legal that some states due to morality can pass Trap Laws to make virtually impossible for women in their states to get an abortion despite the procedure being perfectly legal.

That that could be confirmed as detrimental to our way of existence should be forbidden by law.

Morality is bullshit, it is only needed because we are savages and without it and how we have build or societies everything would crumble but it only works like that because of how we have build our society. Then again I don't think as a species we are at a level of evolution were we can take a chance with a scientific society instead of a moral one but I find funny that people don't turn into science to try to solve the ever lasting problem of "how we should govern ourselves" when we have been recurring to science to basically solve every other problem we have.

>>138644195
I am over thirty. You are retarded if you think our society isn't build upon moral. You may disagree with my idea that is stupid to build your society upon your morals but you can't say that our 3 branches of government don't basically use their power based on how we "morally" feel as a society on certain issues.
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>>138644430
it never had a chance because security council vetos...
don't be a fucking degenerate pleb
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>>138644258
I agree that shit is awful, but I damn well respect the creators' right to make that stuff and the fans' right to consume it.
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>>138644507
The last thing you can be calling anyone is a degenerate. I mean, look where we are.
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>>138629314
Harems are shit but if they keep upsetting people like this, I want more of them.
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>>138644470
I think you need to read what I posted again. I said morality should stay as cultural and laws should be based on the empirical. Laws supersede culture in that set up, so killing for non-scientifically-justifiable reasons would be illegal.

Gods saying it was okay to do so wouldn't be scientifically-justifiable.
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>>138644657
it sounded like you would be hurt by it... crying about paying the UN when its likely your country simply hasn't in 20 years ( re: USA)
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> However, sexual violence inflicted on fictional beings in manga and video games simply does not cause direct harm to actual people. We must focus on tackling actual, real violations of the human rights of real, flesh and blood women.

BTFO
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>>138644981

>women
>implying men(shotas) can't possibly be violated
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Would you nerds shut the fuck up and post more Kobeni?
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>>138645160
There's an appalling lack of Mashiro, actually.
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>>138623411
>not upside down
Who is this pretender?
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>>138643899
You desperately need some philosophy in your life.
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>>138643573
but i would fuck the right
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what the fuck is going in this thread?
got /pol/ /a/ /sci/ /lit/
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Japan will probably be the only country where fictional works won't be banned because of "muh feelings" because their people have some common sense.

rest of the world, enjoy your western morals and insane SJWs.
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>>138645349
And you need more science because you have to be retarded if you think our moral views have changed the world for the better.

Personally I think there is no moral system that actually will ever work. But you are free to make me think that anyone ever worked so far.
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>>138645424
It's more because a majority of both men and women enjoy indulging in it from time to time unlike in the west where it's more of a majority male.
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>>138645424
I wouldn't say it is western morals but rather the way the education system works in the US have created a generation more willing to believe that they feelings come before the rights of others.
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Keep posting the Kobeni, guys.
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>>138645424
>Japan become the last bastion of the human race following a terrible disaster

This is exactly like my Tibetan wall paintings.
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>>138645528
>in the west where it's more of a majority male
I doubt it, probably fewer women in the west are willing to admit it.
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>>138645424
Japan won't exist because theyre reproducing much slower than they're dieing with no signs of change
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Thank fuck this thread is over.
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>>138645424
at the same time, japan censors all of their porn for some convoluted morality reason.
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>>138645633
nah
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>>138645630
>this meme again

A nation which will be at the forefront of the automation revolution has no need for a large labor force.

The nations which are recklessly increasing their populations based on a dying economic paradigm of infinite population growth are the ones that will regret it.

The US for example, would have achieved a near 0 population growth already had immigration policies favoring infinite growth not been forced through. Instead we have about 80 million extra people that do nothing more than suppress wages/syphon welfare handouts/vote for regressive leftists
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>>138645671
Weren't the Americans responsible of those bullshit censor laws?

>>138645633
For how slow /a/ has become over the years I would say the thread will still last another hour or so.
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>>138645364
Her flaws are being obscured by webcam quality and makeup. Also her tits are ugly.
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>>138644830
I agree with what you are saying, but I would argue that Morality is just a bypass of your culture. My view of the ideal goverment would be one that doesn't take into account your culture and basically tells you that your feelings and views on the world are worthless if you don't have the empirical evidence to back it up.
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>>138645364
Are you blind anon or just desperate for some pussy?
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>>138645424
>Japan will probably be the only country where fictional works won't be banned because of "muh feelings" because their people have some common sense.

Fictional works in the western world have to be banned because westerners lack common sense; we're too easily manipulated by our media.
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>>138645424
More because it's a significant part of their economy and one of the only parts of their culture to successfully export, so their censor-advocating people are ignored and don't gain as much ground
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>>138646258
Cultural exports are meaningless in a world post cold war. I would argue that the only value is the entertainment side of the exports but that is currently being challenged thanks to the retarded state of affairs in the west when it comes to "problematic content".
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>>138645948
>Weren't the Americans responsible of those bullshit censor laws?
japs censored their porn way before america had an influence. apparently it was from victorian cultural influence and america actually helped japan along with freedeom of speech if you want to believe some random site I found on google.
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>>138644744
Every time people say "anime nowadays is shit because harem" I fell glad we have lots of them.
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>>138646461
uhmm that is actually interesting and makes more sense. I never had the curiosity to find out more facts about Japan and their censorship of porn. Thanks anon now I think I will try to look into it.
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>>138646526
I think korea is more interesting; they have full porn censorship, also the highest rate of cosmetic surgeries per capita.
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>>138646798
I always wondered in porn censorship countries: is possession of uncensored porn illegal? Like, if you took a trip to korea with a hard-drive full of un-mosaic'd titties, would they lock you in the slammer and register you as a sex offender?
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>>138646878
they only go after distribution as far as I understand it. not sure about laws regarding encrypted data in other countries.

don't go into china with your electronics if you're paranoid, but a throw away phone if you need to. they have their own version of the NSA and have no qualms when using it.
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