One day left until the big reveal
Look at the site closely, you already have a few clues here.
Its a sea of ones and zeroes, Hakuno's command seal can be seen in the coding, and some datamines reveal something about CCCosmos or something like that. Datamines can't reveal anything other than two terms which might be two different projects about to be revealed though. It might be an anime and a remake game.
Asking here; how do I unlock the remaining scenes in HA? At 97% and no 'new' options appear in the cycle anymore. I got the booze from Taiga and have been to the pool with Saber, Rin, and Sakura. What'd I miss to unlock the last couple events? (I know pool w/Illya is a thing). guide on Gamefaqs wasn't any help.
If it's some stupid shit like Grand Order or another fighting game I'm going to be buttmad.
Extra stuff is acceptable. Luvia series is best outcome.
Grand Order is fine, we get new servant every week.
How does it feel living in the golden age of Fate?
A game about previous moon cell grail war.
Tamamo is the protagonist and she tell us a story about Twice and how he became a psychopath.
People that beg for Twice's Grail war story missed the point. His story involving Tamamo didn't get that far, he died three rounds in. He had to keep redoing the grail war until Buddha himself took pity on him and helped him finally win.
I am kinda desperate guys, hence I am asking here.
I tried asking /vn/ and they deleted my post out of spite since CCC is winning.
I am trying to run tsukihime on mac and it's suffering. I spent 8 hours yesterday trying to make it work.
Does anyone have suggestions?
Fuck off with the shitload of spin offs.
Don't Fatefags realize that the more spinoffs they are, the more insulting it becomes to the original work because the whole franchise becomes annoying? Milking Fate is annoying.
I don't think so.
Sakura's route doesn't function without sex. It really just doesn't. And since HF is the finale of FSN, you need sex in there.
Also I think Zero and CCC are better than the Original VN
It does work without the sex scenes, it's just that sex scenes make it much better.
Either way, the original VN is better. It set the tone, the world, the characters, the themes, etc... And it excels in everything except for the tone of battle royale which Zero does better. Then again, it's not what F/SN was all about so Zero isn't better, especially when it has a cast full of one dimensional manchildren.
This is the only option that will make me truly happy. I'll deal with it if it's male MC or even if both are there for some reason. That might be neat. FeMC with Caster and MC with Nero or Archer kicking ass before teaming up to leave the Moon cell or something.
Its a good way to ruin it, despite people always having some sort of fit about MC, saying its wrong and heretical.
CCC was kind of heavily designed with MC in mind, it gets pretty weird and self referential when you don't pick him.
That's what makes it great, the FemMC is pretty much aware of how she shouldn't be there.
For some reason, I feel as it gives her more personality than MC without changing the basis of the character.
Plus, she is cute and even Extra artist prefers her.
Most people who claim they know Japanese or have read a VN in its original language are lying weebs. Even in the Fate threads, when it came to a translated VN, most people claiming they've read fate were lying (they were wrong on simple information that's repeated dozens of time).
This is the internet, people lie and most of you shitheads haven't understood whatever is happening in CCC.
The Extra girls have some really high tier character art. I love how he draws the eyes so vividly.
She, and she improved tremendously since she the first art for Extra.
>We'll have to wait a year for BDRips
>Probably not going to be seeing HF for close to another 3 years all things considered
It's a long time, isn't it?
CCC port to Vita or PC. Please nothing with Grand Order.
Also, a lot of people just don't like the first Extra, because the gameplay was awful. I didnt finish it. I would love an adaptation though, to get the story without the terrible game design
It can, you can fade to black and show more internal monologue. There are multiple themes going on in the route, bonds, family, acceptance, etc. Sex in the original VN, apart from being wrote standard were facilitating the acceptance part and understanding Sakura's mentality. The key to showing it is understanding Sakura and Shirou's relationship as well as Sakura's hangups. Fleshing out the interludes of their past together is essential, because we don't have the context of the other routes where Shirou talks about how she is a member of his family and how important she is to him. I do hope the movie shows all the interludes, they are immensely important for context on why shit happens and why the characters feel the way they do.
What could be done instead of showing the sex straight up is a neat fade to black, but more emphasis on internal monologue and dialogue before and afterwards. There is actually good dialogue in HF before they do the deed, and the madness that is show during and after are plot points. A movie is better than a VN for the less observant because it does (or should) put what is supposed to be expressed purely through single event CGs into animated sequences and turning purely internal monologue into expressive dialogue.
The thing where uniting with Sakura started affecting Shirou should definitely be covered to show how potent the blackening is and give the viewer clues that it's not just "hey Sakura is crazy". Good direction is definitely needed.
If I look at this as a director or writer, it makes me want to pull my hair out trying to find ways to make this into a film and do justice to the work. It's certainly gonna be a challenge. I'd say the wisest thing they could do is announce holding off the project until they are ready to make an anime because it's frankly stupid otherwise.
It's not a poll to ask what should be translated next, it's just a popularity poll pretty much so don't get your hopes up
I like both games but CCC is no Dies Irae, they aren't at the same level
Not even that, but Fate has had more influence in the anime industry as a whole for so long it's just night and day. It's almost Eva level saturation at this point. It is a contender for even being Gundam level saturation at some point.
If it's well written it'll be fine.
What is annoying will be the fanbase splintering into "Extra is best, SN is shit" or some such slander that goes on when a universe is this multi tiered or has alternate side stories.
Then again, it does help show people who ever really liked TM stuff at all. Now THOSE are the real vermin.
my bet's on F/HA 12ep Anime
>even Sakura is likeable
>more Caster and Rider
>not the same first third of Fate/UBW/HF
>no golden jobber (except in shota form)
at least I wish
I read both and Dies Irae is undoubtedly better, and I say that as someone who went through CCC twice
>Just hoping for a new Fate/EXTRA style game
Unless they fix the gameplay I hope not. I don't get why they thought a rock/paper/scissors system would do it for the Fate universe.
It should have been more like Pokemon if you want to implement RPS mechanics. Big difference between a system of checks & balances/ situation and environment playing a huge role, not making each turn a guessing game.
>not making each turn a guessing game.
It was never a guess game, every enemy has established patterns. You are supposed to learn them little by little.
Each week was about discovering the kind of enemy the boss was.
That said, I agree that something a bit more complex would have been good.
If you weren't sure about what your opponent would do in that turn, you would have taken it more carefully. Maybe throw item that turn or heal? Count how many times you can make a "mistake" and heal after that. Or use skill in that turn to make sure your enemy doesn't attack.
You can take it more defensively before you start to see the pattern. No trial and error there. At least not as much as people make it out to be.
>It was never a guess game, every enemy has established patterns. You are supposed to learn them little by little.
>Each week was about discovering the kind of enemy the boss was.
Yeah, that's great, but it wasn't really fun.
I mean no one fucking lauds Extra for its gameplay. It survives pretty much solely that it's a story that Nasu was involved with.
You don't understand how engaged I was with the battle system. I love it.
I liked it, specially the boss fights.
Even the grind was entertaining to me because of said patterns, though I stopped grinding once I had learn the patterns of the enemies in the zone.
F/GO is printing money like no tomorrow. There is a high chance to have at leant an OVA.
People keep posting that snapshot that isn't even up to date. Here's one from today. https://thinkgaming.com/app-sales-data/62911/fategrand-order/
Hopefully this one catches on and people fuck off with that week old estimate that came at the top of the event and this whole Fate makes $1,000,000 a day nonsense. Literally one day it's been estimated at that $900K amount and that was the first day of the event, since then it's been in the 100-200 range along with several other big name cash grab games.
Don't give me hope anon.
project-cosmos.jp is likely just a teaser site for the countdown and will just link to FATE-EXTELLA.JP. If Extra+CCC got a port it would probably just have it's a page on Extra's site, not it's own.
There are enough loyal TM fans, you see huge threads and news everywhere when the April Fool's stuff comes out. People just need to stop being so tsundere about loving it.
Gil route was unfairly the best route in CCC, it had a lot more put into it in a lot of ways.
Its one of the reasons you shouldn't start with this route, you need to end with it.
Add in another playable Servant
like Gozen if they have to be lazyand I would become cum
A part of me is just kind of hoping it's a game and there's no more new anime cause to be honest who is even going to do it with ufoTABLE completely tied up on Tales and God Eater stuff right now. I don't want A-1 or SHAFT who are also frankly too busy to crap out a Fate related thing at the moment to do so and god forbid they ever go back to Deen for anything. Just let it be a game and leave it at that for now.
Its most likely this kind of thing
CCC Route with MC and Gil is the only way
Saber route. H-scenes are nothing but jack hammering and blowjobs.
Rin route. Nothing but pure awkward virgin sex
Sakura route, she's the only one to climb on top and ride Shirou. More blowjob scenes.
I haven't read Kara no Kyoukai or Tsukihime but going by the track record I'd imagine that most of their scenes are also jack hammering and blowjobs. How boring, if he was going to write sex scenes couldn't he of changed it up a bit?
CCC route is all about your
relationship with Sakura ending with the two of you together.
CCC was like a non stop show of the side characters being fucking awesome.
Just wish Assassin could have had some fun in the ride
Fate is pretty much over from a new stories to tell and being able to take remotely seriously as anything other than a cash cow character brand to use as a tool to milk neets standpoint. Grand Order will make sure of that. It's probably the end of the line for Type/Moon from a creative effort standpoint. There's nothing left for them to do, artists drawing waifus and husbandos for Gacha bait will carry it now.
>he went full nasu on it
Does that means it's good, or..?
People will say that about everything in the TM fandom.
>SN: Otaku pandering, worse than Tsukihime, blah blah blah
Except it spawned the biggest damn beloved franchise for the company and saves the creators from becoming boring salarymen.
>Hollow: Ruins the characters, bad SoL blahblahblah
Even when people post several scenes from it all the time they love that not only enhance the stories of some characters, but give us great perspectives and comedy, and it's not nearly as flanderizing and meme filled as CP
>Prisma: caters to pedophiles, blablahblah
Even if people have fun with this alternate universe
>Extra: just milking the franchise into the ground blahblahblah
Even if there is interesting shit abound in it.
The community has become so sodium enriched, so natrium knackered, so absolutely salty that it amazes me, and I have seen it thrive since 2005. Just have freaking fun for chrissakes.
If it was going to be a CCC anime, the backdrop would have been how the CCC website looked with black, purple, and pink.
Since it's resembles the sea, it's most likely going to be related to Extra.
CCC route, you don't get together with your servant. Bringing a waifu along for that is retarded.
They have more of a parent role in that route, kind of like Saber in UBW. Hakuno and Blossom reached world-breaking levels of OTP over the course of CCC, since they're cut from the same cloth. They're both fake people that tried to be real, fought against fate a bit, and ended up becoming real in the end. Their stories weave together entirely.
There's more than a few reasons why people say bring Gilgamesh during that route, and MC is the only way.
If you pick FeMC then the entire theme of love and stuff being at the core of the game gets shifted to "We're such BEST FRIENDS" a bit.
If this could happen I'd honestly find Fate and it's fanbase several degrees less annoying cause realistically I have nothing against the franchise other than the completely insufferable fanbase that flings shit everywhere and then gets defensive the second it comes flying back at them after a while. I mean there's some duds in the canon but I did find the ufoTABLE anime's to be decent enough, it's just that the fanbase is absolutely insufferable with it's whining, trolling, baiting and shitflinging of everyone and every thing by any means of proximity and completely undermines it since there's nothing to discuss with them that would lead to a bitch fit.
Honestly don't be complete fucking trolling assholes and then maybe people won't come down on a fanbase so hard like they kind of have been and before anyone says it it has nothing to do with secondaries or VN vets or whatever, just obnoxiousness in general.
Simple goal but apparently unachievable in this era so the cycle will continue cause people wish it.
I play it, and you're just whiny because people gotta be tsundere for Fate. Gotta hate it as a kusogame in order to look cool. Its fine for what it is, and it is bringing some interesting lore and situations all the time.
It'd probably have decent character modelling and fanservice but fun is a hit or miss since a lot of the time it's just them using popular character brands like One Piece, DBZ, SAO, Gundam and pumping out mediocre games for easy cash. If there ever is it'd probably be for Prisma/Illya though since that's the one they're most involved with.
Of course if they wanted to do an SRW type game or god forbid Gihren's Greed level of deep tactics that could be fun.
Hug and Hand-holding > Hand-holding
There's still a lot of gayness regardless, but FeMC herself seems a bit less thrilled by this fact.
If you're FeMC, then suddenly 80% of the cast is gay. Its pretty hard to read CCC and think Nasu has no balls, since honestly he probably went too far with this game.
Got a few
My BB folder is pretty big
You know, I kinda dig a shot that has the heroine and hero just hold each other like that, glad to be in each others arms despite the going ons around them. Shame the closest I've got to wanting to see that is Tomato and Citrus
Man, I forgot how terrible Archer and Gil looked in that, would fuck the shit out Rin though, but I do have to wonder why Rin has black hair there if the secret garden is supposed to be that person's whole self revealed though
My favorites, bigamy
You and me both.
And more playable servants
100% Worm Free cause they're just data
Its a completely different character, she has no worms, and she's basically the best character in the series now
Its like people who jump into Extra threads any time they see Nero shouting "Oh look, Arthuria ruins another game with her gluttonous British ways".
>More HF finally revealed
>More Extra with BB
>Promotional image of Sakura and BB together at Anime Japan.
All I want
Bring her baaack
Speaking of Extra though, did anyone learn what the two Extra artbooks they released around Christmas had anything new in them?
Those are just alternate costumes on the same character, just like Persona 3 did for its remake.
Even a lot of Fate fans and people that tried it out in Japan have said as much as >>138647054 . It has some of the lowest user satisfaction ratings and reviews for a top grossing app and pretty much makes it's money as a result of whales same as Granblue Fantasy and Starlight Stage. If I had to hazard a guess a lot of people downloaded it, tried it for a bit and then uninstalled it during the clusterfuck maintenance phase or just because it was immediately obvious it was a borderline gacha scam. It doesn't seem to have introduced any new fans to the franchise like Nasu claimed it was made to reach out to and just makes them look bad to the general public for exploiting it's more loyal fans prone to gambling addiction. Also no it does not make a million dollars a day but that will certainly catch on now because it's great fodder for shitposting and that's what decides what the truth is in the anime community where nobody bothers to fact check shit like this guy>>138638714
Yeah, that was fucking great. HA was basically built around trying to give everyone more of stuff with their favorite characters from FSN, and when it was bled dry of as much content as 2005 Nasu and the various additional writers could come up with, he told people to fuck off and move on.
And then a decade later all Nasu has to show for himself is more Fate, and a failed attempt at creating a new trilogy.
It's an estimate based off of arbitrarily assigned amounts like overall rankings and reported market trends. I'm not even sure how accurate that is. Even so when you have whales just throwing money into these games and shitposters championing the expectation everywhere to make that kind of money you'd only need something like 500 whales kicking in a few hundred dollars a day plus whatever else comes in. If you don't believe it could happen just consider https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFQuVhP2FOM this video of a guy trying to get an Ultra Rare in School Idol Festival and stories like http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-09/-6-065-hunt-for-blonde-avatar-exposes-dark-side-of-japan-gaming
These are the sorts of people that support these kinds of games and how they act. If anyone thinks that's something to be proud of then by all means, it just looks unhealthy and slavish to me.
These fucking phone games are really rotten to the core. You gotta wonder about the merits of the guy who comes up with the idea of allowing people to spend upwards of a hundred dollars on some fake currency to get some arbitrary item.
I've actually met someone in real life who personally dipped thousands of dollars into Clash of Clans of all things. Guy's in his 40s. Has a full, steady job. Not at all the type of person you'd think would be into a dinky cartoony game you play on your phone, but it was basically just an outlet for gambling with him.
Oh in terms of conversion that guy blows about $800 USD in 90 seconds. He gets his piece of artwork after about $250 followed by an orgasm and tears of joy at his "accomplishment" and then proceeds to crank even more gacha pulls. It's not as bad as the Granblue Fantasy story and also Fate has way more ridiculous Gacha rates than most games so the gambling addicted whales probably put in as much as a several grand to get the cards they want hence the bloated earnings early on in events and how it just kind of dies any time there isn't one. The most successful events seemed to be Scáthach and one of the Saber and Nobunaga ones. By comparison the latest crossover one was pretty middling, it barely did any better than one of the generic Starlight Stage events but the money's still there from the ones that want to catch em' all.
There's supposed to be a Pokemon mobage coming out which is just going to be nuts and probably where we're going to see the crackdown finally happen when several kids charge their parents phone bill up the ass and angry salarymen start making noise
Well that's why there's more and more people calling for some sort of regulation to protect people prone to gambling addiction after the whole Anchira story went viral. There was a huge crackdown in 2012 where companies like Bamco got fined and the complete gacha mechanic where you have to get 3 or more different items and combine them together to get the real one was banned outright for being overwhelmingly exploitative. I play Record Keeper a bit but have maybe put $20 bucks into it at one point just to see how the mechanic works. I still have most of it but if I don't get anything worthwhile out of it I'll never be spending a cent again and just play it casually. That's the big difference though, I know when to stop, whales don't.
Like I said in the long run it's probably just going to make Type/Moon look really really bad and turn people off them forever rather than introduce people to the brand in a positive and fun way in the long run like Nasu was hoping.
The only mobage I've played that seems reasonably fair is Puzzle & Dragons. There was a point where I had like, 300 magic stones (the equivalent of a dollar), and I hadn't even paid a dime.
It's funny how much and fast that caught on as universal truth though what can you expect from fanbases like Fate's and sites like /a/ and reddit. If they want to believe what they want to believe just let them, it's not like they're ever going to look into it to see how they are wrong or care when somebody blatantly shows them. Just you'd think SOMEBODY would question it and double check.
Well it's by fair the most successful ever along with Monster Strike because it hits the mainstream and doesn't seem to turn people off. I don't see how Fate/Grand Order is ever supposed to hit the mainstream with the kind of gameplay it has and how obviously exploitative it's gacha mechanics are.
Is this just hyping bullshit or do people actually expect something major out of this. I mean granted everyone wants to milk Fate right now so a multimedia project involving Aniplex and shit is 50/50 but like....just more of the same really. It's like people act like Fate is something that hasn't had an entry in years and is desperately in need of content to stay relevant.
Wasn't there supposed to be this other new project called Girls Work or something as well as a Tsukihime remake with new content or was that all shelved now cause moar Fate, moar Saber and moar money. I just don't understand how people can still be excited and chomping at the bit for more Fate and Monogatari and things like that. All the annoying little kiddies getting all uppity and flinging their shit and losing their minds over whatever this is going to look as fake and embarrassing as ever I'm sure. As far as I'm concerned Fate is just a stupid empty hype thing for idiot fanboys at this point, little more.
Since Fate Grand Order came out I swear it's currently the most pandering trashy franchise out there. Like every time I see something on pixiv I can pretty much identify it as Fate/GO straight up based on how Fujo bait the artwork looks in the cases of male characters or how cheesecake the outfits are for the females. Again I just don't know how it's fans take it so fucking seriously still. Even the original had a ton of ridiculous moments that don't warrant it.
Extra chara design is a freaking mess don't compare this to the greatness of Takeuchi
The only new character design I've kind of liked from it was Scathatch. Everything else is just kind of retarded or fruity as hell. It's like they took design lessons from Tetsuya Nomura and bad fujoshi and erotic manga artists.
As far as male character designs go it doesn't scream for female fans only at the top of it's lungs. Also sorry but the new one by the Dangan Ronpa guy just looks ridiculous and like it belongs in a totally different franchise. Then again considering the tell tale sign of a Fate/Grand Order character is looking as silly and fanservicey as possible I suppose you could do a bling guess on it being affiliated with the game.
The very first wave of designs weren't all that bad really, now it's just going steadily downhill though since it's either been just more Saber clones or just over designed in general. The guy who compared it to Nomura design work isn't that far off the mark.
Nero Bride looks horrendous even compared to other Extra designs. Holy shit, what a mess, the more I look at it the worse it gets. Not to mention the faces really bother me too.
So is this hostility thing for real or just part of /a/'s shitposting exercises.
When you have the industry and fanboys cramming certain things down peoples throats endlessly sometimes you can expect a little pushback and venting. Don't be so defensive, the thread will be filled with the requisite fake hyping and shitposting you so desire in a few more hours.
It's not just these threads, it's pretty much everywhere now and I have annoying kids trying to solicit me about how it's the greatest thing ever and if I don't like it I'm Satan himself and would just kind of like them to fuck off.
I don't understand why it would need an anime to promote it when that was kind of the point of the UBW adaptation as a lead in to it.
Is Aniplex Guy just going to be the boogeyman for any time somebody says something mean about a franchise they are involved in on some level now? Is this the Keyser Soze of paranoid otaku?
It's just a matter of convenience for shitposters, any time somebody says something bad about an Aniplex affiliated franchise they just drop the meme and maybe even generate several dozen more shitposts that they wouldn't have otherwise. Also arguing against it makes you the Aniplex Guy which can generate even more shitposts, which is the end goal of all /a/ threads. I'd say just ignore it but the balls probably already rolling.
Like >>138653999 said you'll get your shitposting quota very soon so just be fucking patient assholes.
I like F/GO as well
Its mainly just one or two guys on a rant at the moment about how no one is allowed to like it, and you're swine for even attempting to enjoy Fate anymore.
I'm free to play only though.
>Say something critical about something Aniplex published without even mentioning them->You're the Aniplex Guy.
I don't see what being obvious has to do about it when it's clear what's actually going on. They've been mentioned all of 9 times in nearly 300 posts the vast majority of which were in the last 30 posts and all some people did was have a quick discussion about character designs which got some random anon to throw a bitch fit and who is now trying to derail the whole thread by starting up on the Aniplex guy shit again.
Just admit it, it's for shitposting purposes.
It's a fun game, give it a shot. At least the gameplay is more complex than Extra.
My fucking nigger
So I get that "Connection to the Root: A" is what makes her dangerous storyline-wise, but why does Void Shiki only have Mystic Eyes of Death Perception C while Ryougi Shiki has MEoDP A?
Can't Void Shiki see the lines on Araya's sarira?
Feel like I'm fully prepared for maximum stupidity and fatefags coming out of the woodwork everywhere but I'm sure they'll manage to go one step further. If I were a mod on an anime related site anywhere in the world I'd probably feel like a mall security guard psyching himself up for Black Friday. Either that or just go to bed early.
Bump for anticipation
But I'm keeping my hopes low
In a perfect world, we'd get something CCC related too but an Extra anime would be cool.
A whole new game in the Extra series might be pretty nifty too
but but but. CCC was too lewd for our gaijinn eyes as a christen culture.
Would XSEED ditch the original voices though? Thought they tended to keep them. Besides I'm fairly sure there would be an uproar if they did in current climate.
>Vita emulator when
sony made it impossible because the psp got pirated to hell and back.
Wada doesn't shade like that, the shin things are way too big for her style and the eyes are too small for it to be her.
Not to mention the tits.
Noriaki Sugiyama, Ayako Kawasumi, Nobunaga Shimazaki, Risa Taneda
Together with the members of cast, the hottest news of 2016 FateProject will be announced.
Fate/GO ova(s) and heaven's feel new.
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FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE FATE AND MORE FATE!
I DONT WANT IT ANYMORE! MAKE MORE TSUKIHIME GOD DAMN IT!
>tl;dr Nasu went even more overboard than usual, so they're not calling it Extra 3
We’ve been making this under the surface from after we finished the previous game. In order to overturn the Moon Holy Grail War that was once the fixed concept of Fate, we’re repainting what was in Extra with this new world. It’s a story that inherits the blood of Extra. The new world of the Moon, Extella. Best Wishes Nasu
The game follows the after-story of the Moon Holy Grail War.
Servants (Playable Characters)
Nero Claudius (voiced by Sakura Tange) – A servant who fought through the Moon Holy Grail War. She also has a mysterious form change.
Caster Tamamo no Mae (voiced by Chiwa Saito) – A servant who uses various magic skills.
Saber Altera (voiced by Mamiko Noto) – Her first appearance in the main series after her appearance in Fate/Grand Order.
Read more at http://gematsu.com/2016/03/fateextella-announced-ps4-ps-vita#fuYHpLIXJ4frfXBy.99
>Saber's identity is Altera (アルテラ, Arutera?), the King of Combat (戦闘王, Sentō-Ō?), better known as Attila the Hun
My eyes are bleeding. WHY? WHY? It can't be true
>they genderbended Attila the fucking Hun
Japanese society is way too obsessed with moeshit.
What's with that silly sword that looks like one of those multi colored pens?
The "blade" of the sword, formed of tri-colored brands of light, is believed to be capable of destroying any existence on Earth. Upon unleashing its true power, both its rank and type classification as a Noble Phantasm increase. When fighting Saber Alter, she mentions Excalibur Morgan being a "true Divine Construct", meaning Photon Ray may be similar or related to Divine Constructs in some way.
>Great King Attila genderbend combining all my preferences
Not sure how to feel about this one.