These... these are the heroes of the series?
That's the point. Congrats on being in what's-her-face's shoes of realizing just now she's working with monsters who look like children.
It's really as simple as "don't fuck with Tekkadan and they won't fuck with you."
...unless they're hired to, I guess.
>kill his friend on a shitty mobile worker that couldn't possibly fight back without any remorse
>HOW DARE MIKAZUKI KILL THEM WHILE THEY'RE MAKING SOME RETARDED SPEECH WOOOOOOOW
you people can stop overreacting anytime.
he could have disabled those mechs in a non-lethal way
>he could have tried really and incredibly hard not to kill them for no reason
>when she killed one of them without thinking twice
Please, for the love of god, tell me why should he do this.
Don't you fucking dare pull the "if he kills them he'll be just like them' card.
>If you want to see the MC never killing anyone go watch a Tomino directed Gundam.
You didn't think this one through, did you?
Uso has killed possibly a thousand or more people if you include battleships. Not quite sure how big the crews on those are.
>thinking that to kill or not to kill is what makes a good/bad Gundam protag
It's all about purpose, damnit. Mika is not only a fucking tool as he was from the beginning, but all that build-up in those 20 episodes is wasted on him. All the talks with Atra, Kudelia, and people who are trying to make him be human like the kid he is are wasted because the guy wants to be a killing machine against a major army, even though the conflict could have been resolved in a more productive and peaceful manner for everybody.
Dude's a terrible Gundam protag, and a horribly written character.
think of the children
>Mikazuki doesn't give two shits about honor
You know even for an orphan who straight capped some guys in the street then ran off with Orga to get life or death surgery three fucking times Mika is still kind of mysterious.
I think of him like a feral child, but he's too smart to be that way. He almost seems like a buddha of violence or some weird shit.
It was weird how his hand was behind his back and he sniffed the bracelet before he shot the muh honor guy in ep 3 too.
Sorry but I laughed my ass of at this guy getting rekt. What a glorious retard, sees a Gundam with a huge fucking wrench charging at him and still musters a rant in that haughty tone of theirs while standing on top of his mech.
>Thinking the situation is comparable
>Fatfags this delusional
The enemy commander was on there giving orders to the enemy combatants right in front of her face/ While the battle was already raging.
This was 3 innocent people trying to parley and getting shot down
I think it's stuff like that that hints that he usually has hangups that he needs to focus to overcome when it comes to kill people. At least people you could make a case for being "good."
But when it's assholes like that Pirate guy or Carta who've been proving a major pain in the ass, there's not even the hint of hesitation.
He tries to keep the non-violence people in his life (Atra, Kudelia, the Griffon sisters and grandma) away from it, which is why he hid Atra's bracelet from the murder he committed. But also remember that he nearly choked Gaelio to death when he thought he had run over Cookie and Cracker. The second he realized Biscuit's killer was in front of him, he jumped out and slaughtered the opposition. He, along with the entirety of Tekkadan, are degenerating into bloodthirsty assholes - even Takaki, who has a little sister to put through school, is completely on board with Orga's "we don't have a home to go back to" spiel.
He's literally 'muh home' as a character.
If you were to compare him to Orga's dog then you couldn't get a closer idea of who he is.
I think theres a good reason why he gundam's name is Barbatos.
The thing is that as we saw on the previous episode Mika needs a justification for all of his murdering. He shook Orga out of his funk because he needs Orga alive and giving orders and a goal. When the Brewers dude told him he actually enjoyed killing people, Kudelia saw later that Mika's hands were actually shaking. If Mika doesn't have a clear goal laid out by someone else, then he's only killing for his own sake, and he doesn't want to believe that - he wants to believe he just needs a farm and a quiet life.
>clearly enemies that will try and kill them
>one that has already killed one of them
>nah just some innocent sods that won't stop chasing them until they die
There's nothing innocent about them, it's even pathetic how at their first battle Tekkadan was completely outnumbered and yet beat them up and then she shows up in a small number and then decides it needs to be a fair and even 3 on 3 fight.
Carta was just a stupid hypocrite being led by McGrillis.
You don't actually believe any negotiations with Carta would help them in any way do you? Carta is a nobody, her political prowess is zero, she came there to mend her own honour, she didn't give shit what would've happened to Tekkadan down the line if they gave in. Iznario would have them all executed most likely.
Please spare us this bulshit, how many times have we parroted this shit today already?
They didn't try to negotiate anything when they had the upperhand why should they just negotiate now?
The fact they didn't just take them out by surprise just mean they're stupid, which Carta obviously was.
Is fucking Kira posting on /a/ or something, this is unbelievable.
It sounds like you're just being willfully retarded as an excuse to hate her..
No political power was needed to complete her part of the bargain. If they lost the duel they give Kudelia and Makanai and the rest, despite killing all the people she cared for, would be allowed to leave. If she lost she would stop interfering with them.
B R A V O M I K A
RIDDING SOLAR SYSTEM OF GYALLARHORN SCUM ONE AT A TIME
ENDLESSLY KIND TO HIS ALLIES
ENDLESSLY CRUEL TO HIS ENEMIES
A HERO WE NEED AND DESERVE
And they were STILL harping on in that arrogant, haughty 'much aristocracy', 'muh honour' tone at Mika while getting rekt. I could watch annoying self-righteous nobles get plowed by Mika all day.
because killing suddenly is a crime when it`s done by the good guys, but a given for the "bad guys".
Or are you talking about how he did it? Should he have just let them go inside their mobile suit so they would have a chance at possibly winning?
That person just killed one of your friends and you're going to treat her that well? Why?
>tfw moral compass is hot as hell and can't get the Orga D anymore because they're too busy with "muh revenge"
>there will never be a doujin where Carta gets violently raped and is crying about her purity that she was saving for McGillis was stolen from her
and McGillis is the one who arranged for it to happen
While there is a moment where Mika admits he would have killed her anyway, he is still doing it primarily to get her out of their way. Mika is the only one who's not into any rotund revenge ideology, for him it's simply a matter of removing any obstacles out of his and his family's way. With a newly found determination. I like this kind of Mika more than a bot following Orga's orders.
To give a speech about what the mercenaries they've just pissed off should do in order to gain forgiving of a bitch who slaughtered their dear friend. Negotiations were cancelled with extreme prejudice.
MAYBE SHE SHOULD HAVE OPENED THE DOOR
Is this the best weapon of any Gundam ever? I didn't think I was so ready for a giant club with a chainsaw jaw thing.
This. SO CLOSE
They're teasing us.
The only good thing to come out of Reconguista had brain problems most of the time.
Yep, another victim to edgy vidya/manga.
>because killing suddenly is a crime when it`s done by the good guys, but a given for the "bad guys".
Tekkadan has killed alot, even before they go to earth. They're mercenaries, they're in no way innocent or "good". But they stopped being professional about it and went full edgy vendetta against Gjallarhorn despite being the ones to choose the path of confrontation and killing far more people.
In this case I want to be delusional anon, I know it probably won't happen and any hints of it are projections of my unfulfilled desires.
>despite being the ones to choose the path of confrontation and killing far more people.
Here we go again. So you're basically asking them to go back to Mars and crawl into a hole aren't you.
So it's okay if some nigger breaks into your house and kills your family because he's at rock bottom with his back against the wall.
Naze promised to find them jobs, though they would have to split up.
Shit mangas like Tokyo Ghoul are so popular, but nobody talks about "Our Reason For Living", which is a way better manga. I don't understand, why do people only care about shit and ignore the good stuff?
What are you talking about? Some Monster, He hasn't once killed someone who didn't deserve it like some civilan. And it's not like he's gone out of his way to kill anyone either.
Carta's the one who started shit with them every time. She didn't have to try and stop them from going to earth and she sure as shit didn't have to follow them.
This was like the third time she's attacked them. Mika would be stupid to let her live after this because she's already proven how she would have come back again to attack them if he had.
It's her job. Gjallarhorn are the galaxy police and UN. She also would have honored her terms if they accepted the duel and have never went after them again.
Then she'd be a living cute pregnant waifu trying to cook for Gaelio by the end of all this ;_;
Man, Mika really brought the hammer down on that self-righteous bitch, huh?
Not him, but your analogy is crap.
While Gjallarhorn is broken into multiple divisions, to Tekkadan they are one entity. An entity that attacked them twice before they had even left the planet (In their own home no less), again while they were leaving, hired pirates to attack them, were plotting to set up and kill the union members at Dort along with them, and all before even reaching earth.
To them Gjallarhorn started this fight.
She was being used as a stepping stone to show how shit was the earth defense force
She had already lost the previous battle and was hoping a duel would restore her honor
Her childhood friend/crush set her up and motivated her towards this, because he wants to remake the government or something
Who has Mika killed unjustly anyway? Of all the people he's murdered, every single one was with purpose. I see people calling the kid a sociopath, kid is just moving whatever is in their way effectively and nothing else.
No grandstanding, no ego, no self righteous bullshit. Just a blunt hammer going in a straight line.
She already attacked them twice with superior forces and they won both encounters. Why should they play along with her demands for a duel now? Why should they even trust a member of Gjallarhorn to honor the terms if they win when they've seen how underhanded and corrupt Gjallarhorn can be?
Nobody asked her to do that job. Even old Fareed thought her actions were unncessary. Stop trying to make her into some kind of fortress protector, she's a damned decorative unit. It's a make-believe post not an actual bastion.
which was in reply to
>despite being the ones to choose the path of confrontation and killing far more people
They had plenty of opportunities to quit and Biscuit advised to do so plenty of times.
No one really, the episode really just wanted to show that they've lost their morals or something
how the episode should of went
>foxlady blocks train
>she is standing on top of a civilian town
>mika just fucks her shit up causing tons of damage and possibly killing innocent people
I'm guessing the next episode will be like that
She's supposed to be part of the orbit fleet. Even if it's her job she had no business being on earth attacking them in the first place since she had no juristiction their.
And even when it was under her juristiction she honestly had no good reason to attack them when they where trying to come down to earth.
They literally hadn't done anything wrong and she attacked them just because.
>They literally hadn't done anything wrong and she attacked them just because.
Supplied weapons to and joined a rebellion
Harboring the person who incited the rebellion(as far as everyone not connected to the shady fucks knows.)
Not following a lawful, as any police pulling you over would be, order to stop and forcing their way through into earth
Was there ever a scene of her receiving an order to take action or was it all just for show?
She never gave any of these reasons for her attack, at least I don't remember her ever talking about anything more than wanting to prove her unit is more than decoration. And this wouldn't be the first time Gjallarhorn acted without any directives. Separate units just do whatever the fuck they please, there's no law or order in their conduct. That's why it needs to be reformed.
>Was there ever a scene of her receiving an order to take action or was it all just for show?
Which time? The first time was Tekkadan entering the territory her unit controls. This confrontation is a bit debatable. The Regulatory Bureau had been ordered to stand down at the request of the African Union who after the incident on Dort and the broadcast were worried about their international reputation. Whether or not they actually had diplomatic immunity at this point though Carta attacked them to prove that her unit was more than just decoration.
The second time she used her power as a seven star to attack the island they were on which did actually have protection.
The third time this episode was something she requested and was only approved thanks to McGillis.
>Yamagi was driving the train
He can do anything!
And people though G-Reco was bad.
My fucking sides. IBO is fucking dog shit.
It should be noted however that the "Regulatory Bureau" in general was ordered to stand down, and Carta's division's full name is the "Outer Earth Orbit Regulatory joint Fleet", meaning she is also part of the regulatory bureau. We also never see her recieve an order to attack them and she just mentions that them coming to her fleets territory will be a good chance to prove her strength to the Gjallarhorn higher ups.
dogshit >>> ibo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greco
I finally caved as well.
G-Reco was actually good if you have the capacity to pay attention and understand what was going on.
>attacks the guards and kills them in three minutes
>has the leader in kill shots for 5 minutes, doesnt kill her
>all he has to do is bring his fist down with the sword shard to kill her on take off to dodge reinforcement attack
I get it, Carta a qt and popular on pixiv so you dont want to kill her off, but thats some fucking bullshit.
Gaelio taking down McGillis and Orga putting down his mad dog would be best end.
I'd settle for Carta being alive too
this was a real quality episode
id the animators get given an hg barbatos with an mg mace for reference?
remember when gundam had an anti-war message and the main characters were actually likable?
Of course, anon.
Pic related, since you forgot to give an example.
/m/ is robosexual if anything.
I feel the same way, It doesn't even feel like Mika has killed over 20 pilots, but all of his kills have been super personal.
The model kit was probably no more than a rapid prototype at the time this was animated if even that. Kits are planned about a year in advance but they spend several months after creating the CG model working on part seperation, proportions, etc.
Won't it be better if they just remove and implant all his essential organs into a pod or at least just preserve his head and spine?
I can't imagine having his torso dangling on some sort of pipe opening can be good if the Graze's torso got bashed.
Momentum and shit, man.
Just goes to show, they will never be happy unless they make the anime themselves.
This character doesnt go out his way to ensure an enemy survives so they come back to hurt his friends. He is a fucking child soldier and people think he is suppose to know compassion? Child soldiers aren't about justice and honor, they are about doing their orders.
I've already been rooting for the "villains", as nearly all of them have been more reasonable individuals.
Besides, anyone who has a loli princess wife can't be the bad guy. It's just not possible.
Dropped this around the time they killed the meido. Who's dead so far?
>being chased by an organization that wants you dead
>members of said organization stop you (in other words, the organization knows your location) and want you to stay there for 30 minutes while you prepare for an "honorable" duel
If they wanted to paint the kids as monsters, they picked a really fucking stupid way to do it. What Mika did was the only smart thing to do in the situation. If someone's after your life, "honor" means literally nothing.
I haven't watched the last four or so episodes, but it was last I checked. They kept teasing at two of the girls wanting to cuck Mr. Fedora with the Tekkadan mobile suit pilots, but beyond that he's done nothing but be a smarmy Gary Stu
Gali Gali is alive.
Akihiro is alive.
Eugene is alive.
Pretty much the only side character besides Fumitan that's died is Carta. And interesting is the last word anyone should use to describe her.
They don't have to wait 30 minutes, she was giving them up to 30 minutes to prepare if they needed it.
The only one I see getting painted as a monster is Mika who went rogue and is a really bad influence on the others. Orga is going to have to put him down or give him the boot
>They don't have to wait 30 minutes, she was giving them up to 30 minutes to prepare if they needed it.
True, but they would have needed some time to get everyone ready, and stopping is just a horrible idea no matter what.
>The only one I see getting painted as a monster is Mika
The children are too, they watched him eagerly and ignored Merribit (the supposed "voice of reason) telling them not to.
>Orga is going to have to put him down or give him the boot
Which is dumb, because Mika made the right choice. I'm not against him being painted as a monster, just the way they did it.
Do people like Carta just because they knew she was going to die? Kind of like people get all giddy over "best girls" that they know are going to lose, but never the obvious winner.
Her character was just as shallow as the majority of the rest of the cast. She was defined by her honor and her love of McGillis. That's it.
They're part of Tekkadan. By side characters I meant people like Foreman Revolution and CURANKU.
Which is a little unfair since they exist solely to die, but it seems that's the case for everyone in this show save Tekkadan and Fedoraniki.
>True, but they would have needed some time to get everyone ready, and stopping is just a horrible idea no matter what.
They already stopped and they had pilots ready to go.
>The children are too, they watched him eagerly and ignored Merribit (the supposed "voice of reason) telling them not to.
Which is exactly why he's a bad influence
He didn't make the "right choice". He made a choice and it tickles your edge boner on how he carried it out. Hell given the type of organization they are it would be closer to the "wrong" choice as he's a grunt and Orga could have worked something out, or taken her hostage, or interrogated her(especially since they suspect Mcgillis).
>Do people like Carta just because they knew she was going to die?
I think they liked her because she was trying her hardest to be a proper honorable warrior when nobody from Gjallahorn or Tekkadan took her seriously.
>She was defined by her honor and her love of McGillis. That's it.
She was also a comic relief and Gaelio cared for her.
But as another anon said before the answer is starvation, the rest of the cast is so uninteresting that she comes off as a godsend.
FInished watching it, I like this guy, reminds me of an obedient puppy. Also Asura. HE just needs a kind heart wife
>it tickles your edge boner on how he carried it out
If someone breaks into your house, and starts shouting "DON'T CALL THE POLICE OR BRING A WEAPON, LET'S HAVE A FAIR FIST FIGHT" you aren't going to oblige by his rules. He's a threat to your life, being "fair" doesn't matter in that situation. Carta shows up and tells them how she's going to have them surrender to the organization that's been trying to kill them. You seriously think it's the right choice to oblige her petty "honorable duel" bullshit?
If they wanted to paint Mika as horrible, they could have had pretty much the same setup without the "honorable duel" challenge, and just have Carta attack them. Then she surrenders, and Mika kills her. That would be the dishonorable choice, and the wrong choice logically.
Cool story but it's the other way around, they're the ones breaking in.
Also she didn't tell them to surrender, just that if they lost they'd hand over the two with no more bloodshed and the rest were free to go. By not waiting for his commander's orders he potentially got in the way of Tekkadan. Now all Chocoman has to do is play a video of the "ruthless and barbaric Tekkadan" for propaganda.
>but it's the other way around, they're the ones breaking in.
The important part is that the person is a threat on your life, not whose home ground it is. Analogies don't have to match perfectly, I'm just trying to illustrate to you in terms of something that could happen to you instead of the foreign idea of invading someone (unless you're in the army).
>just that if they lost they'd hand over the two with no more bloodshed and the rest were free to go
That's just not true, go watch it again.
>By not waiting for his commander's orders he potentially got in the way of Tekkadan.
>Now all Chocoman has to do is play a video of the "ruthless and barbaric Tekkadan" for propaganda.
He could do that with an honorable duel anyways. Just remove the audio and show them slaughtering Carta 3 vs 3. It's not like they know the circumstances.
Gjallarhorn confirmed for Spess Mehreens, Tekkadan confirmed for Khorne cultists
>Battered wife Orga in the previous episode
>Mika decides he won't wait for Orga to tell him who the enemy is anymore
Kind of feel bad for Orga, he's going to have to be extra careful in not disappointing those eyes
Absolutely devastated, didn't even stand a chance
>Cartafags so asshurt that they pin Mika as some monster that eats children because he got revenge for his close friend
He's rightfully scared of Mika.
Also chances on Kudelia throwing them under the bus to become hope? It will be like the aldnoah s2 ending where everything is magically resolved and Kudelia becomes the galaxy peace princess.
>G-Reco was actually good if you have the capacity to pay attention and understand what was going on.
If the background homo survives all IBO's sins will be forgiven.
Don't bully the cake. Merrybit was right and these dumb kids just think it's fine to be edgelords over Muh Biscuit because Mika is Barbatshot insane.
We were three steps towards Orga mellow time before manlet of murder ruined the train ride.
None, they'll both survive. Because as the only pure and supportive relationship in the series, they deserve it.
But Mika is a monster that eats children.
That's why I like him.
Do you know that IRL child soldiers are given drugs to dull their fear and psyh them up? In their current predicament, they simply needed that buzz Mika provided. They're about to charge into tightly protected GH territory, it's pretty much a suicide mission. It's not "edgy" it's a self preservation tactic.
Mika a shit, it's why he eats so many prunes
Well if one of them survives the other is definitely getting fucked.
McGillis leading them all to a slaughter. I hope his motivation isn't one of the bullshit muh revenge that I planned since childhood with unwavering resolve.
He'll either die, or he'll kill McGillis and inherit Gjallarhorn himself as McGillis has always planned for because Gaelio is "pure".
We're arguing who's a better character not who's a cooler cool guy, faggot. And even then Gali is a wimp and a shit MS pilot.
Do you ever bother to dwell a little bit on the subject of your faggotry?
Gaelio started out as a Macky sidekick with no greater achievements, jobbed to Tekkadan once, and ever since his entire character motivation has been reduced to revenge on the space rats. That's all. Then he acquired a run-of-the-mill fujobait relationship with Ein, where they bonded over, you guessed it, revenge on the space rats. He doesn't have any other internal conflicts and motivation other than revenge on the space rats. Well now he also has guilt over fucking over Ein. Aaand I guess he's also getting fucked over by Macky, probably because he's too dumb to live.
Even still, Orga gas a lot more on his plate than Gali. And a more interesting relationship with Mika, no homo.
I actually like a lot of the characters come to think of it.
And hell, NuKudelia is winning me over too.
While I don't really have sympathies for Mika or McGillis, I can't deny that they keep moving the show in interesting directions.
It's going to be so satisfying to see Tekkadan get bodied next week.
>because killing suddenly is a crime when it`s done by the good guys, but a given for the "bad guys".
Are you implying that killing is NOT a crime if it's done be the 'good' guys? Killing is a crime anyway, that's the point. So, when a 'good' guy does it he is not so good anymore, he becomes a criminal.
>You will never grow up with a chuuni chivalry tomboy.
I told you guys, I told you!
He gives no shits and is pretty ruthless, but wouldn't call that edgy.
I have serious doubts about this despite desperately hoping, but Gundam has occasionally surprised me for the better in the happy endings department.
I now realize that these two are the reason I kinda wanted to ship Eugene and Fumitan.
He's still a more layered and multi faceted character than Gaelio. I get the impression people only fag about him because they feel sorry for him, what kind of accomplishment is that?
They feed off each other for what they each lack. It's a symbiosis more than a master/pet relationship, dominance is shared depending on circumstances, and one takes over where the other falters.
You could say any retarded shit really. Orga has some actual responsibilities and people who depend on him, has a grip over an entire military company with added personal involvement. He actually provides for someone. Gaelio is a spoiled princess who experiences serious personal concern for the first time in his life. And it's just a single person, not an entire team of kids who sees him as their surrogate dad.
Yeah, you could feel sorry for Orga, but you could also respect him. Gaelio to a lesser extent.
It's unhealthy codependency. Orga and Mika are basically Black and White from Tekkonkinkreet except instead of helping one another they're both absolutely horrible for the other
>abloobloo I hate rich people
Orga has had no character development/building at all. Having responsibilities doesn't save him from being a completely flat character, any time he makes progress Mika resets him. It's to the point Gaelio has shown more humanity and different sides to himself.
>an edgier Kamina who let's everyone else make the tough decisions for him (Mika does all the killing and the Mafia does all the planning)
>in any way respectable
All he does is put on a cool face and act like hot shit while taking all the credit for the work of others. Orga is essentially Martian George Lucas.
I'm just waiting the day Tekkadan suffers actual losses instead of remaining disaffected by everything minus one or two occasional melodramatic deaths.
A legion of fujo and non-fujo, other cast members and even gunpla dealers are sharing your hopes. Personally, I'm prepared for the worst, but it's not like there aren't legit reasons why it should happen, form a narrative standpoint.
>Mika needs Orga telling him who to kill so he can go on justifying his murderboner
>Orga needs Mika to rely on him to have a purpose in his life
Working =/= healthy. The human body will "work" on a steady diet of McDonald's, but it won't be healthy.
>>Orga needs Mika to rely on him to have a purpose in his life
Not true. Orga feels Mika is like a knife to his back telling him to move forward. Without him he wouldn't have to rush things like he told Biscuit.
Ironic, considering Tekkadan I'd nothing but a ship full of faggy little boys constantly crying about how hard they tried to be "cool" today.
And all I'm saying is that if the writing was even halfway decent, their relationship would be creaking and buckling under the strain yet we've barely seen any of that.
Exactly. Mika is both his motivation and his bane and yet that shit rarely rears it's head.
It's weird agreeing with fujos. I'm not much for shipping in general but every now and then I watch something and think, 'god damn I hope they get a happy ending together, they earned it.' I just don't want to see/read what the fujos have cooking up.
I too am prepared for the worst though, this series has a pretty steady body count compared to a lot of other Gundam series.
>their relationship would be creaking and buckling under the strain
Nah you are just some melodramatic homo man, they are both child soldiers murdering shit and being a bit fucked in the head is normal for them
>muh manly hot blooded cool men of manliness so manly they only prefer the company of other men!
Okay there, sport.
>child soldiers from age 5
>told by everyone they are subhuman
>get life-threatening and extremely painful surgery
>betrayed and left to die on Mars
>no qualms about executing their former employers/guardians
>"why don't they go to a marriage councillor and talk about their codependency"
>If you want to see the MC never killing anyone go watch a Tomino directed Gundam.
Amuro literally, and I mean literally literally, straight up murdered fleeing enemy combatants who were no threat to him whatsoever (literally shot or stabbed them in the back as they were running away from him) and at one point tried to shoot down a plane that wasn't even aware of his presence and just finished saving a civilian mother and child.
>Traitorous, stupidly conflicted bitch
>Killing is ok when it's self-preservation or war
No, it's not ok just because it's war. Most wars are not just and not about defending your life, they are about defending someone else interests and getting more benefits. Warmongering itself is a crime.
>murdered fleeing enemy combatants who were no threat to him whatsoever (literally shot or stabbed them in the back as they were running away from him)
Wait, when was this? Is been so long since I watched it.
That's why I said implicitly, if you enter a boxing match you agree to be punched in the face although you don't give your explicit consent and try to prevent it.
Same applies to war, and even conscription.
They were still in space, and they ran into some mercenary group led by a gay dude, and Akihiro's little brother was among them.
It just felt to me like the show wasn't going anywhere interesting at that point.
I'm just telling you why it's ok to kill people in war. That's why you wont be charged with war crimes if you ambush and gun down an enemy unit, because by entering the contested zone and donning on uniforms you implicitly agree to kill and be killed.
I won't say it picks up after that because the pace stays the same mostly but a bunch of stuff happens and a lot of people die
I don't know which episode and I don't have any screenshots of it on this PC, but I'm pretty sure I remember at least one scene were Amuro was wrecking Zeeks and one of them got scared and tried to run away and Amuro chased him down and cut him down from behind with his beam saber.
>But it's not. Nobody agrees to be killed,
But they do, it's implicit consent, you don't have to agree with it but this is the reason that soldiers are not charged with murder when they kill enemy combatants. This is how international law functions
Absolutely 0% willingly
100% if they get seperated,put into a leader position and lied to constantly about who she is fighting
Remember that Atra got her started on that shit about how Tekkadan is her family. Her mentality has clearly changed since Fumimemes death but it's not fucking Nagito Komaeda levels. She's just more hands on and determined.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Amuro did anything wrong, just like how I'm not saying Mika did anything wrong. But if treehugging hippies get their panties in a twist because Mika stomped that little shit to death, they'd start hyperventilating if they saw some of the stuff Tomino's heroes did.
>But they do
So why do they fight if they agree to be killed from the beginning? Might as well give up and not try to protect their lives.
>this is the reason that soldiers are not charged with murder when they kill enemy combatants
The reason are people with power who start wars. They make such laws so they can create armies. But justifying killing with law doesn't make it okay.
Of course not. Why should it be there? It's a mecha chart.
So Twitter refers to this scene as Atra determination, will she actually do something? She really ended up becoming completely irrelevant
The moment Mika stomps the guy, it looks to me like he's reeling from it a little bit, at least not entirely stone cold. He has this shocked expression afterwards and takes a deep breath before regaining composure and charging at Carta. The guy was about to wreck the rails, it was a minute reaction.
Would you a genki Shino-chan? Just remember to use a condom, she probably has herpes.
Well her character stand does refer to her as "Tekkadan brave heroine", so maybe she could really end up doing something stupid
It's a registered PMC operating for a Martian client, Space is res communis omnium so they weren't terrorist as long as they were in orbit.
Once on Earth things get a bit foggy since they are inside Arbrau jurisdiction but are fighting a combat unit of Gyalahorn. So it's up to Arbrau if they can operate inside it's borders or not.
Arbrau didn't explicitly deny them they just allowed Gyalahorn to try and apprehend them
No thanks I'll stick to my pure maiden waifu
I'm not the guy you've been talking to
but you're either a troll, an idiot, or a child.
If you're a troll, there's no point in talking to you.
If you're an idiot, nobody will be able to convince you of anything because you're too stupid to understand.
So there's no point in talking to you.
If you're a child, you don't know how anything works, but you think you know how everything works, and no one will be able to convince you otherwise because you're also an idiot.
So there's no point in talking to you.
he was quite clear. the individuals on the opposing sides agree that they could be killed when they take up the gun.
>Then Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.
>Gets pressured into a gangbang by Shino-chan
Olga is better and does not care about the dick.
Eugenia is just an insecure tomboy that's kinda jealous of big sis Olga.
>that moment when she starts crying for help as she sees the blade
I got hard
I'm pretty sure the guy meant the MC doesn't bitch about killing. He just sticks to being an edgelord. While in most gundams the MC bitches about killing while killing anyway.
I don't think Barbatos wants to kill anymore.
>While in most gundams the MC bitches about killing while killing anyway.
Eh, they've had their share of MCs that are cold trained killers too. Heero and Setsuna come to mind. Amuro and Kira are on the other end of the spectrum and the rest of the MCs fall somewhere in-between those extremes.
It doesn't feel right to call Mika an edgelord. He's not a broody, angsty little shit. He's too emotionally inhibited for that.
Well he did take his sweet time before trying to kill Carta, even explained his motives to her for some reason, and after she called McGillis it kind of cause a reaction in him, so who knows maybe he isn’t a bloodthirsty monster, he is simply doing what he thinks must be done
Well good anons is confirmed, Carta is in heaven now
fuck vagans, Earth will deliver justice in the next two episodes.
This fucking show.
If anything Tomino MC's have the higher kill count in the franchise.
We just forget about it because they're also fags who're always bitching about how they don't want to fight anymore.
If anything Mika is just a professional "killer", he does his job quickly and doesn't feel anything while killing people, except, well, for that last batlle since it was personal for him too.
>All these people who don't understand the message this show is sending
This is what happens when children are forced to grow up surrounded by violence. They've been treated like slaves, bought and sold, told they were worthless and pretty much just thought of as disposable weapons.
Children make the best soldiers because they make the worst soldiers. Their moral compass is all but nonexistent, and without a firm hand to guide them, they're going to just keep doing what they know, and all they know is fighting. Who or why they're fighting isn't important.
Kudelia gave them a reason to fight, but she wasn't strong enough to rein them in, so the dog is walking its master.
It's not even deep, it's just another anti war mecha show, only this time it's saying "war is bad because children end up fighting and they end up way more fucked up than anyone because of it".
Most of /a/ is just retarded and either sees things that aren't there or misses the things right in front of them.
>Most of /a/ is just retarded and either sees things that aren't there
Talk about irony
>it's just another anti war mecha show, only this time it's saying "war is bad because children end up fighting and they end up way more fucked up than anyone because of it".
How do you miss the theme of creating/finding ones's place/future when they throw it in your face so much? The overall message is how your actions getting there can cost you/leave a trail for karma to come home to roost.
Because that man is a man of knowledge and certainly was trustworthy.
And even if he supposedly likes killing, he never once killed indiscriminately.
Tekkadan is just trying to do it's job, it's ghallajhorn that just keeps going on their way, just like Mika said, even Carta herself only got killed because she just showed up basically asking to be killed, if she had a brain and noticed she stood no chance against Tekkadan maybe she would still be alive.
They're worthless trash that deserved to die.
If they were truly honorable they would have either allowed the mobile worker to retreat or requested a gentleman's duel on the ground. But they were too good for a filthy peasant and they killed a man in cold blood.
Now suddenly they're outmatched and outgunned and suddenly it's muh honor and muh nobility. They're so up their own ass that they can't even fathom why the guy in the Gundam isn't playing nice. This is like a giant robot version of Crecy.
ask that yourself.
nobody is questioning Carta's action on killing Biscuit, but questioning her stupid "okay I know I killed one of you yesterday without thinking twice, but hey let's try and be honorable now that I'm on a number disadvantage kay?"
You people are the one calling Mikazuki a monster for returning the favor.
Because they totally haven't killed plenty of Gjallarhorn right? She chose to come with 3 suits, it's not that she couldn't have gotten more since this was sanctioned by the head of Gjallarhorn. So I don't know why you're making it sound like she was edging for an advantage.
What does that have to do with anything?
She came up with 3 mobile suits and wanted a fair battle, when she outnumbered them hard she didn't try anything about being fair or whatever.
she just did this because chocolate played her like a fucking child.
In the end she came off as a huge hypocrite by asking for a 3 vs 3 and not only that but Mika came alone and destroyed them all, she had all the time to fight him properly and still got perfectly beaten.
My point is, Carta is stupid and deserved to die.
The only smart thing she did was killing Biscuit actually.
Attack the person, not the argument.
What argument? All I'm hearing is some esl autist say
She only issued the duel because was outgunned(which she wasn't, she could have easily outnumbered them again)
That her not issuing a duel the first time somehow means anything.
Also feel free to tell me how she's a hypocrite. Preferably in an understandable english format.
>She only issued the duel because was outgunned
>because was outgunned
But do tell me, when was it confirmed that she could get herself more troops after her massive failure?
MS doesn't seem that dispensable in this Gundam.
she didn't try to defend tekkadan. does she know makanai is speaking the truth?
Oh hey a word got deleted when restructuring.
>But do tell me, when was it confirmed that she could get herself more troops after her massive failure?
When Iznario himself gave her the order to capture them.
Iznario gave her a chance just because Chocolate asked for it, and we all know Chocolate never really expected her to win.
Why would that imply they would have allowed her to get more troops?