These... these are the heroes of the series?

If you want to see the MC never killing anyone go watch a Tomino directed Gundam.

This is a nice change.

>>138608912
That's the point. Congrats on being in what's-her-face's shoes of realizing just now she's working with monsters who look like children.

It's really as simple as "don't fuck with Tekkadan and they won't fuck with you."

...unless they're hired to, I guess.

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>>138608912
>kill his friend on a shitty mobile worker that couldn't possibly fight back without any remorse
>HOW DARE MIKAZUKI KILL THEM WHILE THEY'RE MAKING SOME RETARDED SPEECH WOOOOOOOW
you people can stop overreacting anytime.

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>>138608988
>Tomino directed Gundam.

>>138608912

No greater good, no just cause.

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>>138609203
he could have disabled those mechs in a non-lethal way

>>138609319
Mikazuki doesn't give two shits about honor, he proved that all the way back in episode 3.

Only step up if you're willing to die.

>>138609319
Do you really want Jesus 2.0?

>>138608912
does anyone has the webm of the stomp?

>>138609252
The solar system calls for wetwork, and they answer.

>>138609319
Is he okay?

>>138609319
>he could have tried really and incredibly hard not to kill them for no reason
>when she killed one of them without thinking twice
Please, for the love of god, tell me why should he do this.
Don't you fucking dare pull the "if he kills them he'll be just like them' card.

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>>138608988
>If you want to see the MC never killing anyone go watch a Tomino directed Gundam.
You didn't think this one through, did you?

Uso has killed possibly a thousand or more people if you include battleships. Not quite sure how big the crews on those are.

>thinking that to kill or not to kill is what makes a good/bad Gundam protag

It's all about purpose, damnit. Mika is not only a fucking tool as he was from the beginning, but all that build-up in those 20 episodes is wasted on him. All the talks with Atra, Kudelia, and people who are trying to make him be human like the kid he is are wasted because the guy wants to be a killing machine against a major army, even though the conflict could have been resolved in a more productive and peaceful manner for everybody.

Dude's a terrible Gundam protag, and a horribly written character.

>>138609613
Even Tomino's most pacifistic character, Loran, isn't completely clean.

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>>138609561
think of the children

>>138609371
>Mikazuki doesn't give two shits about honor
You know even for an orphan who straight capped some guys in the street then ran off with Orga to get life or death surgery three fucking times Mika is still kind of mysterious.
I think of him like a feral child, but he's too smart to be that way. He almost seems like a buddha of violence or some weird shit.
It was weird how his hand was behind his back and he sniffed the bracelet before he shot the muh honor guy in ep 3 too.

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Sorry but I laughed my ass of at this guy getting rekt. What a glorious retard, sees a Gundam with a huge fucking wrench charging at him and still musters a rant in that haughty tone of theirs while standing on top of his mech.

Mikazuki "shoot first, ask questions later" Augus

>>138609203
>Thinking the situation is comparable
>Fatfags this delusional

The enemy commander was on there giving orders to the enemy combatants right in front of her face/ While the battle was already raging.

This was 3 innocent people trying to parley and getting shot down

>>138609846
"And may God be with you."

>>138609784
I think it's stuff like that that hints that he usually has hangups that he needs to focus to overcome when it comes to kill people. At least people you could make a case for being "good."

But when it's assholes like that Pirate guy or Carta who've been proving a major pain in the ass, there's not even the hint of hesitation.

>>138609784
He tries to keep the non-violence people in his life (Atra, Kudelia, the Griffon sisters and grandma) away from it, which is why he hid Atra's bracelet from the murder he committed. But also remember that he nearly choked Gaelio to death when he thought he had run over Cookie and Cracker. The second he realized Biscuit's killer was in front of him, he jumped out and slaughtered the opposition. He, along with the entirety of Tekkadan, are degenerating into bloodthirsty assholes - even Takaki, who has a little sister to put through school, is completely on board with Orga's "we don't have a home to go back to" spiel.

>>138609671
He's literally 'muh home' as a character.
If you were to compare him to Orga's dog then you couldn't get a closer idea of who he is.
I think theres a good reason why he gundam's name is Barbatos.

>>138609561
Because they went to negotiate a way to lessen the bloodshed and didn't blow up the train with everyone in it like they could have.

>>138609877
The thing is that as we saw on the previous episode Mika needs a justification for all of his murdering. He shook Orga out of his funk because he needs Orga alive and giving orders and a goal. When the Brewers dude told him he actually enjoyed killing people, Kudelia saw later that Mika's hands were actually shaking. If Mika doesn't have a clear goal laid out by someone else, then he's only killing for his own sake, and he doesn't want to believe that - he wants to believe he just needs a farm and a quiet life.

>>138608912
Mika is obviously the villain. You'll all be rooting for Gali2 and Pickle Ein next week.

>>138609861
>innocent people
>clearly enemies that will try and kill them
>one that has already killed one of them
>nah just some innocent sods that won't stop chasing them until they die
There's nothing innocent about them, it's even pathetic how at their first battle Tekkadan was completely outnumbered and yet beat them up and then she shows up in a small number and then decides it needs to be a fair and even 3 on 3 fight.
Carta was just a stupid hypocrite being led by McGrillis.

>>138609921
You don't actually believe any negotiations with Carta would help them in any way do you? Carta is a nobody, her political prowess is zero, she came there to mend her own honour, she didn't give shit what would've happened to Tekkadan down the line if they gave in. Iznario would have them all executed most likely.

Please spare us this bulshit, how many times have we parroted this shit today already?

>>138609921
They didn't try to negotiate anything when they had the upperhand why should they just negotiate now?
The fact they didn't just take them out by surprise just mean they're stupid, which Carta obviously was.
Is fucking Kira posting on /a/ or something, this is unbelievable.

>>138610045
It sounds like you're just being willfully retarded as an excuse to hate her..

No political power was needed to complete her part of the bargain. If they lost the duel they give Kudelia and Makanai and the rest, despite killing all the people she cared for, would be allowed to leave. If she lost she would stop interfering with them.

>>138610007
>>138610045
>>138610078

You can quit samefagging now

>>138610234
waifufags really are this delusional.
should have expected so after that first thread.

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>>138609486
The whole scene or just the stomp?

>>138610327
thats fine for me

>>138610307
Not fooling anyone retard

>>138609846
Mikazuki "the Orphanmaker" Augus

>>138610507
Mikazuki "all he killed is a old faggot, a crazy woman and her followers and space pirates but people condem his as Satan`s incarnate on earth for doing self-defense" Augus

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>>138608912
B R A V O M I K A
R
A
V
O

M
I
K
A

RIDDING SOLAR SYSTEM OF GYALLARHORN SCUM ONE AT A TIME

ENDLESSLY KIND TO HIS ALLIES

ENDLESSLY CRUEL TO HIS ENEMIES

A HERO WE NEED AND DESERVE

>>138608912
You know, I really want to defend this as realism but characters in this show just came across as hyper edgelords instead.

>>138609319
kira please.

>>138610234
Only one of these posters is me, loser.

>>138610737
watching so much slice of life ruined your morality compass.
otherwise the only reason you would see this as edgy is because one or two girls thought it was gross.

>>138610890
>>138610433

Thunderbolts way better desu family

>>138610737
You're actually an idiot.

>OH SHE KILLED MY BEST FRIEND, ITS OKAY

This is obviously not the gundam for you

>>138609203
it was pretty much foreshadowed when Akihiro shot at them during there speech 2 episodes ago

>>138611011
not best friend, but pretty close, I agree.
It`s ridiculous how forgiving people want Mikazuki to be, even after all the shit Kira received.

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>>138610981

>>138610737
Fuck off Merribit.

>>138610906
Clearly playing too much videogames ruined your morality compass.

>>138609203
And they were STILL harping on in that arrogant, haughty 'much aristocracy', 'muh honour' tone at Mika while getting rekt. I could watch annoying self-righteous nobles get plowed by Mika all day.

>>138611048
Except Akihiro would have accepted the duel like a gentleman, even Shino would have.

>>138611142
because killing suddenly is a crime when it`s done by the good guys, but a given for the "bad guys".
Or are you talking about how he did it? Should he have just let them go inside their mobile suit so they would have a chance at possibly winning?
That person just killed one of your friends and you're going to treat her that well? Why?

>>138609722
>Please don't be like Nina
>Please don't be like Nina
>Please don't be like Nina
>Please don't be like Nina
>Please don't be like Nina

Aw fuck

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>tfw moral compass is hot as hell and can't get the Orga D anymore because they're too busy with "muh revenge"

Goddammit Sunrise

>>138611167
>there will never be a doujin where Carta gets violently raped and is crying about her purity that she was saving for McGillis was stolen from her
>and McGillis is the one who arranged for it to happen

>>138610995
Only if you're a fedora tipping Murrilard who listen to free jazz

>>138610327
I didn't watch IBO.
Why the fuck did he step out.

>>138611239
While there is a moment where Mika admits he would have killed her anyway, he is still doing it primarily to get her out of their way. Mika is the only one who's not into any rotund revenge ideology, for him it's simply a matter of removing any obstacles out of his and his family's way. With a newly found determination. I like this kind of Mika more than a bot following Orga's orders.

>>138610327
Poor Riddhe

>>138611396
because their leader is retarded.
she goes to battle like it's some fucking anime and start posing and making speeches.
I'm not fucking with you.

>>138611396
Honor.
Seriously.

>>138611396
To give a speech about what the mercenaries they've just pissed off should do in order to gain forgiving of a bitch who slaughtered their dear friend. Negotiations were cancelled with extreme prejudice.

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>>138611303
MAYBE SHE SHOULD HAVE OPENED THE DOOR

>>138608912
You haven't been paying attention, have you?

>>138611440
>>138611482
>>138611497
Wow.
Are the rest of the characters this retarded? I was thinking about watching it but now I'm not too sure.

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Is this the best weapon of any Gundam ever? I didn't think I was so ready for a giant club with a chainsaw jaw thing.

>>138611527

This. SO CLOSE
They're teasing us.

>>138611567
You should stick with G-rectum, bro

It's less retarded

>>138608912

>>138611567
Those characters were that particularly dumb because they were a mostly ceremonial unit with little knowledge of battle facing a hardened mercenary outfit.

>>138610737
Nothing wrong with being an edgelord.

If its in the name of continued survival I'd brutally murder all in my path.

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>>138611606

The only good thing to come out of Reconguista had brain problems most of the time.

>>138611571
Maybe you've just misinterpreted their intentions? There were never any hints that couldn't be interpreted as casual concern.

>>138611567
Not really. Those characters were basically comedic relief until they decided to kill one of the protag's friends and getting fucking brutally murdered back.

>>138611239
>good guys
>bad guys
Yep, another victim to edgy vidya/manga.

>because killing suddenly is a crime when it`s done by the good guys, but a given for the "bad guys".

Tekkadan has killed alot, even before they go to earth. They're mercenaries, they're in no way innocent or "good". But they stopped being professional about it and went full edgy vendetta against Gjallarhorn despite being the ones to choose the path of confrontation and killing far more people.

>>138610327
This is fine. I can fap to this

>>138611527
Maybe Orga should stop being a bitch.

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>>138611667

In this case I want to be delusional anon, I know it probably won't happen and any hints of it are projections of my unfulfilled desires.

>>138611676
>despite being the ones to choose the path of confrontation and killing far more people.
Here we go again. So you're basically asking them to go back to Mars and crawl into a hole aren't you.

>>138609203
Y-you just don't understand honor and chivalry p-pleb!

At this point they cant keep Mika alive. Even if they succeed at creating peace and freedom they cant just have a monster hanging around killing everyone he sees.

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Fujo are taking robo Ein bravely.

>>138611754

War won't end forever after the show is over. He can just keep being a mercenary.

>>138611727
So it's okay if some nigger breaks into your house and kills your family because he's at rock bottom with his back against the wall.

Naze promised to find them jobs, though they would have to split up.

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>>138611772

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Shit mangas like Tokyo Ghoul are so popular, but nobody talks about "Our Reason For Living", which is a way better manga. I don't understand, why do people only care about shit and ignore the good stuff?

>>138611812
Thanks for proving Gayhorn apologists simply cannot be reasoned with such retarded post.

>>138611971
Uhm... I wanted to make a new thread and not post it here...

>>138611754

What are you talking about? Some Monster, He hasn't once killed someone who didn't deserve it like some civilan. And it's not like he's gone out of his way to kill anyone either.

Carta's the one who started shit with them every time. She didn't have to try and stop them from going to earth and she sure as shit didn't have to follow them.

This was like the third time she's attacked them. Mika would be stupid to let her live after this because she's already proven how she would have come back again to attack them if he had.

>>138611987
>argument completely shut down
>lol ur dumb

fuck off back to /pol/

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>>138611772
How does he poop?

>Oh shit children subject to the brutality of war from birth are souless killers.
>Oh shit this is to edgy

What do people actually expect? Mika was ready to choke a bitch for less.

>>138612053
It's her job. Gjallarhorn are the galaxy police and UN. She also would have honored her terms if they accepted the duel and have never went after them again.

Then she'd be a living cute pregnant waifu trying to cook for Gaelio by the end of all this ;_;

How do people even find Carta attractive?
Jesus Christ her design deserved death.

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Man, Mika really brought the hammer down on that self-righteous bitch, huh?

>>138612055
Not him, but your analogy is crap.

While Gjallarhorn is broken into multiple divisions, to Tekkadan they are one entity. An entity that attacked them twice before they had even left the planet (In their own home no less), again while they were leaving, hired pirates to attack them, were plotting to set up and kill the union members at Dort along with them, and all before even reaching earth.

To them Gjallarhorn started this fight.

>>138611567
She was being used as a stepping stone to show how shit was the earth defense force

She had already lost the previous battle and was hoping a duel would restore her honor

Her childhood friend/crush set her up and motivated her towards this, because he wants to remake the government or something

>>138612091
Does this mean he has 3 Alaya-Vijnana thingies in his back just like Mika? or is he literally one with his machine?

Who has Mika killed unjustly anyway? Of all the people he's murdered, every single one was with purpose. I see people calling the kid a sociopath, kid is just moving whatever is in their way effectively and nothing else.

No grandstanding, no ego, no self righteous bullshit. Just a blunt hammer going in a straight line.

>>138612240
And none of that has to do with

>Here we go again. So you're basically asking them to go back to Mars and crawl into a hole aren't you.

>>138612272
Also she was pretty much just a royal brat who never seen a day of battle, these people are from mars and had no "honor" in a battle she envisioned

Lol so is that Ein or whatever guy a fucking gundam now? Where's his body?

>>138612169
She already attacked them twice with superior forces and they won both encounters. Why should they play along with her demands for a duel now? Why should they even trust a member of Gjallarhorn to honor the terms if they win when they've seen how underhanded and corrupt Gjallarhorn can be?

>>138612169
Nobody asked her to do that job. Even old Fareed thought her actions were unncessary. Stop trying to make her into some kind of fortress protector, she's a damned decorative unit. It's a make-believe post not an actual bastion.

>>138612301
which was in reply to
>despite being the ones to choose the path of confrontation and killing far more people
They had plenty of opportunities to quit and Biscuit advised to do so plenty of times.

>>138612169
Cartafags sure are delusional.

>>138612279
Both. Three protrusions in the thoracic like Mika, except then his entire roddy spinal cord tapers into the Graze.

Chocolate Man is really malicious. I kinda feel that even Gali Gali is wising up to him by now.

>>138612301
You pretty much argued they should deflect each time they've been attacked and that fighting back put them in a unjust position.

>>138612331
Why are you using "they"? Mika acted on his own instead of waiting for his commander to make a decision as he should have.

>>138611772
Fujos have always loved cyborgs for some reason. 009 was the first time I saw that in action but they flock to Genos in OPM too. I don't get it, but it's popular with them.

>>138612300
No one really, the episode really just wanted to show that they've lost their morals or something

how the episode should of went

>foxlady blocks train
>demands battle
>she is standing on top of a civilian town
>mika just fucks her shit up causing tons of damage and possibly killing innocent people

I'm guessing the next episode will be like that

I still like the murder mace the best, but chompstick is an outrageous weapon.

I am Gundam.

>>138612169

She's supposed to be part of the orbit fleet. Even if it's her job she had no business being on earth attacking them in the first place since she had no juristiction their.

And even when it was under her juristiction she honestly had no good reason to attack them when they where trying to come down to earth.

They literally hadn't done anything wrong and she attacked them just because.

>>138612418
I have no idea what you're even saying anymore.

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>>138612421
Chicks dig robots too anon.

>>138611971
Good job.

>>138612447
I am Graze

>>138612456
>They literally hadn't done anything wrong and she attacked them just because.
Supplied weapons to and joined a rebellion
Harboring the person who incited the rebellion(as far as everyone not connected to the shady fucks knows.)
Not following a lawful, as any police pulling you over would be, order to stop and forcing their way through into earth

I was not aware that Carta had this many fans to be so butt pained over her dying. Or in denial about it.

>>138612447
G00 to bed mud slime scum.

>>138612456
Was there ever a scene of her receiving an order to take action or was it all just for show?

>>138612566
She never gave any of these reasons for her attack, at least I don't remember her ever talking about anything more than wanting to prove her unit is more than decoration. And this wouldn't be the first time Gjallarhorn acted without any directives. Separate units just do whatever the fuck they please, there's no law or order in their conduct. That's why it needs to be reformed.

>>138611772
I fucking wish they brought back guntanks.

>>138612733
>Was there ever a scene of her receiving an order to take action or was it all just for show?

Which time? The first time was Tekkadan entering the territory her unit controls. This confrontation is a bit debatable. The Regulatory Bureau had been ordered to stand down at the request of the African Union who after the incident on Dort and the broadcast were worried about their international reputation. Whether or not they actually had diplomatic immunity at this point though Carta attacked them to prove that her unit was more than just decoration.

The second time she used her power as a seven star to attack the island they were on which did actually have protection.

The third time this episode was something she requested and was only approved thanks to McGillis.

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>Yamagi was driving the train
He can do anything!

>only 2 episodes left

How the fuck is this shit going to end?

>>138613281
With a lead in to S2.

>>138613281
Rushed and shitty, this crap is not getting S2.

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And people though G-Reco was bad.

My fucking sides. IBO is fucking dog shit.

>>138613331
Both are terrible. IBO being dogshit doesnt make g.rekto any less of a turd

>>138613281
With a S2 announcement.

>>138613191
It should be noted however that the "Regulatory Bureau" in general was ordered to stand down, and Carta's division's full name is the "Outer Earth Orbit Regulatory joint Fleet", meaning she is also part of the regulatory bureau. We also never see her recieve an order to attack them and she just mentions that them coming to her fleets territory will be a good chance to prove her strength to the Gjallarhorn higher ups.

>>138613331
dogshit >>> ibo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greco

>>138613385
>>138613428
Spotted the retards.

>>138611662
Yeah she might have had autism most of the time, but damn that pic of her looks great.

>>138612421
Fujos love that cybernetic dick.

Elevens noticed that Grazein called Gaelio by his name, which is something he's never done before. Who's willing to bet they did something to his brain as well?

>fourth IBO thread in less than 24 hours

Fine fuck it I'l give it a go there has to be some good in it right?

.. Right?

>>138611571
it just looks like one of those dinosaur head-shaped pooper scoopers

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>>138613666
I finally caved as well. G-Reco was actually good if you have the capacity to pay attention and understand what was going on.

>>138613666
Maybe.

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Best girl dies
Drop

So it's that kiritsugu vs saber argument again huh?

>>138608912
>attacks the guards and kills them in three minutes
>has the leader in kill shots for 5 minutes, doesnt kill her
>all he has to do is bring his fist down with the sword shard to kill her on take off to dodge reinforcement attack
>doesnt

I get it, Carta a qt and popular on pixiv so you dont want to kill her off, but thats some fucking bullshit.

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>>138616465
I wish she was still alive ;_;

>>138611812
>says nigger
>sends others to /pol/

holy shit.

>>138616706
Did /a/ become tumblr when I wasn't looking? Should be some hilarious reactions when terraformars airs next season.

I felt really sad for Carta. Her strange red tattoos (?) gave me a boner too

>>138613666

It's decent if you watch it with 0 expectation.

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Gaelio taking down McGillis and Orga putting down his mad dog would be best end.

I'd settle for Carta being alive too

>>138609319
that fucking wrench crab claw thing is cool as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKD276CP29g

this is the only way it can end for Orga and Mika

I just wish Carta could have gotten a little McGillis before she died

>>138616808
>I felt really sad for Carta.
same, it hit me right in the heart

>>138617107
I figured I would jerk away my sadness for Carta to Carta, unfortunately there's only one good image I could find so far on danbooru

>>138617155
Is he okay?

>>138617181
As OK as Carta and her men

>>138613666
I gave up around episode 10. As soon as they left Mars it's like all the life got sucked out of the show.

>>138613666
This episode actually had a semi-important character who wasn't a spacenoid mars rat die, so people are talking about it more than normally.

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A bright future ahead of him.

>>138612091
Mecha don't poop.

>>138608988
>Nice Change
Oh boy mister mc edgy here. GO EAT SHIT TO ANOTHER PLACE SON. This is by far the worst gundam surpassing shit like Destiny.

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>>138608912
this was a real quality episode
id the animators get given an hg barbatos with an mg mace for reference?

>>138608988
mika has the lowest kill count of all gundam mcs

>>138608988
Setsuna killed entire fleets than this psycho brat

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remember when gundam had an anti-war message and the main characters were actually likable?

>>138608912
Are there any reasons people like mika other than because he kills people?
i mean hes barely there as a character, the barbatos might as well just have an ai

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>>138620507
Of course, anon.

Pic related, since you forgot to give an example.

>>138608988
Pretty sure Amuro and Kamille have slaughtered thousands of pilots and officers.

>>138608988
Im pretty sure even loran has killed more people than mika due to the lack of fights in IBO

>>138612421
There's a reason /m/ is the gayest board on 4chan anon.

>>138620164
Isn't that Kira?

>>138622475
Nah, I'm pretty sure /a/ is still gayer. Some of the gayest threads happen on /a/, not /m/.

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>>138622475
/m/ is robosexual if anything.

>>138621899
I feel the same way, It doesn't even feel like Mika has killed over 20 pilots, but all of his kills have been super personal.

>>138620148
The model kit was probably no more than a rapid prototype at the time this was animated if even that. Kits are planned about a year in advance but they spend several months after creating the CG model working on part seperation, proportions, etc.

>>138613331
>G-rectum is so shitty that Tomino has to apologize

You sure enjoy eating feces, familia

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>>138612091
>>138617597
Won't it be better if they just remove and implant all his essential organs into a pod or at least just preserve his head and spine?

I can't imagine having his torso dangling on some sort of pipe opening can be good if the Graze's torso got bashed.

Momentum and shit, man.

>>138608912
I don't see the problem.

>>138611063
Just goes to show, they will never be happy unless they make the anime themselves.

This character doesnt go out his way to ensure an enemy survives so they come back to hurt his friends. He is a fucking child soldier and people think he is suppose to know compassion? Child soldiers aren't about justice and honor, they are about doing their orders.

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>>138620507
Yes

>>138611812
WHAT THE FUFK IS THE SHOW THEN? I DOMT WANNA WATCH ORPHAN ANTICS, I WANNA WATCH GUNDAM

>>138611079
Fuck you Keith.

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>>138622475

>>138609985
I've already been rooting for the "villains", as nearly all of them have been more reasonable individuals.

Besides, anyone who has a loli princess wife can't be the bad guy. It's just not possible.

>>138609985
I've been rooting for Gaelio since his introduction.

>>138613204
>Pic of the day. When Mika joins the battle, Yamagi is in charge of the train.
>Yamagi: "Leave it to me!"

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Dropped this around the time they killed the meido. Who's dead so far?

>>138625300
Pretty much everyone interesting.

I just wanna see the haremfag get rekt hard.

>being chased by an organization that wants you dead
>members of said organization stop you (in other words, the organization knows your location) and want you to stay there for 30 minutes while you prepare for an "honorable" duel
If they wanted to paint the kids as monsters, they picked a really fucking stupid way to do it. What Mika did was the only smart thing to do in the situation. If someone's after your life, "honor" means literally nothing.

>>138625397
Space mafia harem is still in one piece?

>>138625727
I haven't watched the last four or so episodes, but it was last I checked. They kept teasing at two of the girls wanting to cuck Mr. Fedora with the Tekkadan mobile suit pilots, but beyond that he's done nothing but be a smarmy Gary Stu

>>138625300
Only maid and fatfuck.

>>138625901
Biscuit died? Fuck, there goes my interest.

>>138625901
>>138625952
Now I'm curious, how did he die?

>>138625901
And pretty much every single interesting side character, no matter which side they were on.

>>138626056
Painfully.

>>138626105
Gali Gali is alive.
Akihiro is alive.
Eugene is alive.

Pretty much the only side character besides Fumitan that's died is Carta. And interesting is the last word anyone should use to describe her.

>>138625591
They don't have to wait 30 minutes, she was giving them up to 30 minutes to prepare if they needed it.
The only one I see getting painted as a monster is Mika who went rogue and is a really bad influence on the others. Orga is going to have to put him down or give him the boot

>>138626216
She was more interesting than the entirety of Tekkadan.

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>>138626056
Telling Orga to vote Trump.

>>138626228
>They don't have to wait 30 minutes, she was giving them up to 30 minutes to prepare if they needed it.
True, but they would have needed some time to get everyone ready, and stopping is just a horrible idea no matter what.
>The only one I see getting painted as a monster is Mika
The children are too, they watched him eagerly and ignored Merribit (the supposed "voice of reason) telling them not to.
>Orga is going to have to put him down or give him the boot
Which is dumb, because Mika made the right choice. I'm not against him being painted as a monster, just the way they did it.

>>138626259
Do people like Carta just because they knew she was going to die? Kind of like people get all giddy over "best girls" that they know are going to lose, but never the obvious winner.
Her character was just as shallow as the majority of the rest of the cast. She was defined by her honor and her love of McGillis. That's it.

>>138626216
They're part of Tekkadan. By side characters I meant people like Foreman Revolution and CURANKU.

Which is a little unfair since they exist solely to die, but it seems that's the case for everyone in this show save Tekkadan and Fedoraniki.

>>138620507
Pffffffhahahaha

>>138626399
>True, but they would have needed some time to get everyone ready, and stopping is just a horrible idea no matter what.
They already stopped and they had pilots ready to go.

>The children are too, they watched him eagerly and ignored Merribit (the supposed "voice of reason) telling them not to.
Which is exactly why he's a bad influence

He didn't make the "right choice". He made a choice and it tickles your edge boner on how he carried it out. Hell given the type of organization they are it would be closer to the "wrong" choice as he's a grunt and Orga could have worked something out, or taken her hostage, or interrogated her(especially since they suspect Mcgillis).

>>138626399
>Do people like Carta just because they knew she was going to die?
I think they liked her because she was trying her hardest to be a proper honorable warrior when nobody from Gjallahorn or Tekkadan took her seriously.

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>>138624674
No neon genesis?

>>138626399
>She was defined by her honor and her love of McGillis. That's it.
She was also a comic relief and Gaelio cared for her.

But as another anon said before the answer is starvation, the rest of the cast is so uninteresting that she comes off as a godsend.

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FInished watching it, I like this guy, reminds me of an obedient puppy. Also Asura. HE just needs a kind heart wife

>>138626747
>it tickles your edge boner on how he carried it out
Don't strawman.
If someone breaks into your house, and starts shouting "DON'T CALL THE POLICE OR BRING A WEAPON, LET'S HAVE A FAIR FIST FIGHT" you aren't going to oblige by his rules. He's a threat to your life, being "fair" doesn't matter in that situation. Carta shows up and tells them how she's going to have them surrender to the organization that's been trying to kill them. You seriously think it's the right choice to oblige her petty "honorable duel" bullshit?
If they wanted to paint Mika as horrible, they could have had pretty much the same setup without the "honorable duel" challenge, and just have Carta attack them. Then she surrenders, and Mika kills her. That would be the dishonorable choice, and the wrong choice logically.

>>138608912
>BAWWW MIKA KILLED AN ENEMY
He did that literally in the second episode.

>>138627026
Cool story but it's the other way around, they're the ones breaking in.

Also she didn't tell them to surrender, just that if they lost they'd hand over the two with no more bloodshed and the rest were free to go. By not waiting for his commander's orders he potentially got in the way of Tekkadan. Now all Chocoman has to do is play a video of the "ruthless and barbaric Tekkadan" for propaganda.

>>138612279
He's basically like a dreadnought from 40k.

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FUCKING WHEN???

>>138627222
>but it's the other way around, they're the ones breaking in.
The important part is that the person is a threat on your life, not whose home ground it is. Analogies don't have to match perfectly, I'm just trying to illustrate to you in terms of something that could happen to you instead of the foreign idea of invading someone (unless you're in the army).
>just that if they lost they'd hand over the two with no more bloodshed and the rest were free to go
That's just not true, go watch it again.
>By not waiting for his commander's orders he potentially got in the way of Tekkadan.
Point taken.
>Now all Chocoman has to do is play a video of the "ruthless and barbaric Tekkadan" for propaganda.
He could do that with an honorable duel anyways. Just remove the audio and show them slaughtering Carta 3 vs 3. It's not like they know the circumstances.

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>>138627469
Gjallarhorn confirmed for Spess Mehreens, Tekkadan confirmed for Khorne cultists

>>138626787
I guess the 2.0 frame was more fitting?

>>138627507
Assuming gundams still have video/audio logs that wouldn't work.

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>Mfw carta got kill
Glorious.

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>Battered wife Orga in the previous episode
>Mika decides he won't wait for Orga to tell him who the enemy is anymore

Kind of feel bad for Orga, he's going to have to be extra careful in not disappointing those eyes

>>138627217
But this one had a vagina.

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>>138627814
Absolutely devastated, didn't even stand a chance
>Cartafags so asshurt that they pin Mika as some monster that eats children because he got revenge for his close friend

>>138628276
Orga needs to man the fuck up and make his own choices instead of trying to impress Mika. He's pretty pitiful at this point.

>>138622499

Mika doesn't have scatter laser yet

>>138611571
>I didn't think I was so ready for a giant club with a chainsaw jaw thing.

It's a Dino-saw

>Fumitanfags
>Now Cartafags
Glad to see cancer being asswhiped.

>>138628862
Next is the Merribitfags.

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>>138628422
He's rightfully scared of Mika.

Also chances on Kudelia throwing them under the bus to become hope? It will be like the aldnoah s2 ending where everything is magically resolved and Kudelia becomes the galaxy peace princess.

>>138628862
Too bad the shittiest waifu is the star of the show, it'd be fun to see not!Rowen Peacecraft die.

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>>138613873
>G-Reco was actually good if you have the capacity to pay attention and understand what was going on.

>>138620507
pic unrelated I assume

>>138628984
she might keep them on her payroll as bodyguards or something

>>138628948
pls no

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If the background homo survives all IBO's sins will be forgiven.

>>138630970
Yamagi will live, Shino is fucked

>>138631101
Yamagi is fucked, Shino will live

>>138631167
>>138631101
Which is it???

>>138611527
Don't bully the cake. Merrybit was right and these dumb kids just think it's fine to be edgelords over Muh Biscuit because Mika is Barbatshot insane.

We were three steps towards Orga mellow time before manlet of murder ruined the train ride.

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>>138631295
None, they'll both survive. Because as the only pure and supportive relationship in the series, they deserve it.

Do you have to watch something before to understand IBO?
I want to give it a try but since it's a mecha show I'm not sure where to start.

>>138631520
It's a standalone, nothing's required to get it.

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>>138628409
But Mika is a monster that eats children.

That's why I like him.

>>138631315
Do you know that IRL child soldiers are given drugs to dull their fear and psyh them up? In their current predicament, they simply needed that buzz Mika provided. They're about to charge into tightly protected GH territory, it's pretty much a suicide mission. It's not "edgy" it's a self preservation tactic.

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>>138631779
Mika a shit, it's why he eats so many prunes

>>138611303
>getting told off by children

Teiwaz sent exactly the wrong person to Tekkadan. Must have wanted to get rid of her.

Mika really knows how to manipulate Orga.

>>138629332
Or she might sell them out and have them imprisoned or executed.

>>138631520
Maybe Boku no Pico to understand just how gay IBO is.

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>>138631101
>>138631167
Well if one of them survives the other is definitely getting fucked.

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McGillis leading them all to a slaughter. I hope his motivation isn't one of the bullshit muh revenge that I planned since childhood with unwavering resolve.

>yfw Gaelio becomes the MC of S2

>>138632152
Probably not, it's probably something classist, something like "I'l prove you that a mongrel can overrule an empire".

>>138632420
Or it's something existentialist like "lack of conflict has made the strong weak so only conflict can build strength again" or some shit.

>>138632265
He is truly the best character in all the show. if he dies i will cry a little......maybe

>>138632660
No he's not you stupid gaeliofag.

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>>138632660
He'll either die, or he'll kill McGillis and inherit Gjallarhorn himself as McGillis has always planned for because Gaelio is "pure".

>>138632690
name a single better character

>>138609544
Of course he is he landed in the soft snow he even made a tomato angel

>>138632690
name a better one i dare you motherfucker

>>138632743
Orga.

>>138632828
>pussy whipped bitch playing at being a cool guy
Nah

>>138632828
Maybe if Mika didn't kill every chance at character development

>>138633000
We're arguing who's a better character not who's a cooler cool guy, faggot. And even then Gali is a wimp and a shit MS pilot.

>>138632824
Do you ever bother to dwell a little bit on the subject of your faggotry?
Gaelio started out as a Macky sidekick with no greater achievements, jobbed to Tekkadan once, and ever since his entire character motivation has been reduced to revenge on the space rats. That's all. Then he acquired a run-of-the-mill fujobait relationship with Ein, where they bonded over, you guessed it, revenge on the space rats. He doesn't have any other internal conflicts and motivation other than revenge on the space rats. Well now he also has guilt over fucking over Ein. Aaand I guess he's also getting fucked over by Macky, probably because he's too dumb to live.

>>138633088
Even still, Orga gas a lot more on his plate than Gali. And a more interesting relationship with Mika, no homo.

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>>138632828
Someone buy this anon a beer!

>>138633286
And he's not a better character. He's been looping through the same fucking character arc since episode one

>>138633286
>And a more interesting relationship with Mika
It hasn't been interesting since they first went into space.

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I actually like a lot of the characters come to think of it.

Gaelio
Orga
Nadi
Merribit
Ride
Akihiro
Eugene

And hell, NuKudelia is winning me over too.

While I don't really have sympathies for Mika or McGillis, I can't deny that they keep moving the show in interesting directions.

>>138633286
Garlio has a far more interesting relationship with McGillis than Orga-Mika.

>>138608988
Uso had the highest kill count although victory was an anomally

>>138610327
holy crap he looks exactly like Riddhe

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>>138633721
What about Shino?

Whose Rouei is getting Eined?

>>138634484
Next episode.

Ein and probably 60% of the nameless orufenz

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It's going to be so satisfying to see Tekkadan get bodied next week.

>>138634691
>Eined with*

and one of the sluts. My money is on Lafter

>>138634744
Takaki is also dying for forgetting about his imoutos and going full Mika

>>138611239
>because killing suddenly is a crime when it`s done by the good guys, but a given for the "bad guys".
Are you implying that killing is NOT a crime if it's done be the 'good' guys? Killing is a crime anyway, that's the point. So, when a 'good' guy does it he is not so good anymore, he becomes a criminal.

>>138634859
Hello !

>>138634484
Azee

Atra dies in the last episode if there's a S2, otherwise she can't remain pure surrounded by Tekkadan the way they are.

>>138634813
That mouth looks awful.

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>>138634720
She reminds me of someone

>>138633749
You think so? It's a pretty straightforward sociopath-victim relationship to me.

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>You will never grow up with a chuuni chivalry tomboy.

>>138634260
Eh, he's okay.

>>138634720
Somebody watched Galaxy Express.

>>138634773
Look at the widdle Hobbit.

>>138634813
Oh Merribit, you got those from a Land's End catalogue, didn't you?

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>>138634993
better?

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>>138634720
I told you guys, I told you!

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>>138624674
Missing a few

So the MC is pretty edgy/ruthless for a Gundam MC right? Might pick it up if so

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>>138636252
He gives no shits and is pretty ruthless, but wouldn't call that edgy.

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Choose one.

>>138636252
He's simple and direct which makes him a bit ruthless in combat because he doesn't see the point in things like fighting honorably or fair.

I wouldn't call him edgy though.

>>138636484
Carta wasn't crazy, just naive and a little weird.

Space Selma Hayek was driven insane with grief.

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>>138631484
I have serious doubts about this despite desperately hoping, but Gundam has occasionally surprised me for the better in the happy endings department.

Carta-sama ;_;7

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>>138636976
I now realize that these two are the reason I kinda wanted to ship Eugene and Fumitan.

>>138636444
That is edgy though.

>>138633617
He's still a more layered and multi faceted character than Gaelio. I get the impression people only fag about him because they feel sorry for him, what kind of accomplishment is that?

Fucking love how Mika has no fucks to give and just murders his enemies

>>138637825
>people only fag about him because they feel sorry for him
You could say the same for Orga, given that he's nothing more than whimpering sadsack with a pet sociopath

>>138637772
No, >>138636604 desribed it better. Edgy carries a certain mood which isn't present with Mika's kills. None of the muh DARKNESS shtick, Mika is just blunt and deadpan.

>>138638022
>implying Orga isn't the pet

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>>138638022
>>138638092
They feed off each other for what they each lack. It's a symbiosis more than a master/pet relationship, dominance is shared depending on circumstances, and one takes over where the other falters.

>>138638068
He is just autistic

>>138638022
You could say any retarded shit really. Orga has some actual responsibilities and people who depend on him, has a grip over an entire military company with added personal involvement. He actually provides for someone. Gaelio is a spoiled princess who experiences serious personal concern for the first time in his life. And it's just a single person, not an entire team of kids who sees him as their surrogate dad.
Yeah, you could feel sorry for Orga, but you could also respect him. Gaelio to a lesser extent.

>>138638092
>>138638187
It's unhealthy codependency. Orga and Mika are basically Black and White from Tekkonkinkreet except instead of helping one another they're both absolutely horrible for the other

>>138638326
>abloobloo I hate rich people
Orga has had no character development/building at all. Having responsibilities doesn't save him from being a completely flat character, any time he makes progress Mika resets him. It's to the point Gaelio has shown more humanity and different sides to himself.

>>138638425
>Mika murders people
>Orga tells him who to murder

Seems like a working relationship

>>138638326
>an edgier Kamina who let's everyone else make the tough decisions for him (Mika does all the killing and the Mafia does all the planning)
>in any way respectable
All he does is put on a cool face and act like hot shit while taking all the credit for the work of others. Orga is essentially Martian George Lucas.

I'm just waiting the day Tekkadan suffers actual losses instead of remaining disaffected by everything minus one or two occasional melodramatic deaths.

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>>138636976
A legion of fujo and non-fujo, other cast members and even gunpla dealers are sharing your hopes. Personally, I'm prepared for the worst, but it's not like there aren't legit reasons why it should happen, form a narrative standpoint.

>>138638563
>Mika needs Orga telling him who to kill so he can go on justifying his murderboner
>Orga needs Mika to rely on him to have a purpose in his life
Working =/= healthy. The human body will "work" on a steady diet of McDonald's, but it won't be healthy.

>>138638678
You are just some faggy butpirate who needs feelings and shit

If it works don't fix it, and it's working

>>138638678
>>Orga needs Mika to rely on him to have a purpose in his life
Not true. Orga feels Mika is like a knife to his back telling him to move forward. Without him he wouldn't have to rush things like he told Biscuit.

>>138638739
Ironic, considering Tekkadan I'd nothing but a ship full of faggy little boys constantly crying about how hard they tried to be "cool" today.

And all I'm saying is that if the writing was even halfway decent, their relationship would be creaking and buckling under the strain yet we've barely seen any of that.
>>138638741
Exactly. Mika is both his motivation and his bane and yet that shit rarely rears it's head.

>>138638581
It's weird agreeing with fujos. I'm not much for shipping in general but every now and then I watch something and think, 'god damn I hope they get a happy ending together, they earned it.' I just don't want to see/read what the fujos have cooking up.

I too am prepared for the worst though, this series has a pretty steady body count compared to a lot of other Gundam series.

>>138638873
>their relationship would be creaking and buckling under the strain

Nah you are just some melodramatic homo man, they are both child soldiers murdering shit and being a bit fucked in the head is normal for them

>>138638678
Mika needs Orga telling him who to kill so that he can continue to function. He wouldn't know how to live without him.

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>>138638927
>muh manly hot blooded cool men of manliness so manly they only prefer the company of other men!
Okay there, sport.

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>>138639138
>child soldiers from age 5
>told by everyone they are subhuman
>get life-threatening and extremely painful surgery
>betrayed and left to die on Mars
>no qualms about executing their former employers/guardians
>"why don't they go to a marriage councillor and talk about their codependency"

>>138634840
Murder is a crime.

Killing is ok when it's self-preservation or war.

>>138609085
>>138609319
Damn.

Did I make a mistake when I dropped this show? Should I pick this back up?

>>138639636
Depends. Why did you drop it?

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>>138608988
>If you want to see the MC never killing anyone go watch a Tomino directed Gundam.
Amuro literally, and I mean literally literally, straight up murdered fleeing enemy combatants who were no threat to him whatsoever (literally shot or stabbed them in the back as they were running away from him) and at one point tried to shoot down a plane that wasn't even aware of his presence and just finished saving a civilian mother and child.

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>>138625300
>Traitorous, stupidly conflicted bitch
good riddance.

>>138639753
The food was poisoned 100%, fucking Zekes

>>138629194
All you are doing is proving the claim.

>>138639565
>Killing is ok when it's self-preservation or war
No, it's not ok just because it's war. Most wars are not just and not about defending your life, they are about defending someone else interests and getting more benefits. Warmongering itself is a crime.

>>138639753
>murdered fleeing enemy combatants who were no threat to him whatsoever (literally shot or stabbed them in the back as they were running away from him)
Wait, when was this? Is been so long since I watched it.

>>138639753
Zeon propaganda.

>>138639768
Didn't mean to imply I dropped it because of that. Still pretty disappointed that her sole feature was that shitty "revelation" about being a spy.

>>138640019
Killing enemy combatants, even if the war is just for particular interest is fine because both sides implicitly agree to it.