Nigger I don't fucking care I just want her alive, it's not like you can't still be alive while being a murder of billions.
I'm fairly confident that both imoutos will have better routes than Iris in Martyrs. Lise, well, we already know for sure why hers would be better, but while Katia's is the most unknown out of the three heroines, I don't think they'll pick the 'safe choice' of rehashing Iris' route with a slight bent towards Katia, which means that it'll probably be exciting if nothing else.
Lise please hurry up to the Extraverse you and Pham deserve better than this filthy world.
Would you personally send Katia on an express all expenses paid trip to the Extraverse so Lise could have her little sister?
Keep up the good work, Genosse.
Eh? Eh? W-what happened? Don't tell me...!
PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit
Those party workers who are active on the ideological front have a special assignment from Theodore
and great responsibility to the party. We must drive the ideas of Imoutoism ever deeper into the masses,
and mobilize them to solve the challenges in every area of society, particularly bullying.
The decisions of the X. Party Congress are the best possible foundation for that. Realizing these decisions will give us
big challenges also in the coming year 1984. We will solve them, thus advancing the cause for which the door was opened
67 years ago by the victory of the Great October Socialist Revolution.
By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.
Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik
That's a little mean to Katia, don't you think? Would Lise really want her to go that way? Why not do it by slowly poisoning her, like feeding her poisoned candies while she sits in your lap and talked to you until she fell asleep? She'd never realize she was dead and she wouldn't need to die in despair, she could just sleep peacefully... forevermore.
>weren't utilized fully
Those hips moved on their own
Lise made so many nice faces. I hope she shows up in a flashback or two in the last couple of episodes.
I bet she is real expressive when you give her the D
Too bad Lise and Farka (presumably) hated each other in the anime, looking forward to seeing her in her route.
No, most of them don't give a shit, or are celebrating it.
ITT: faggots mourn a cumwhore who got exactly the death she deserved. Thankfully Theodor was strong enough to put her down like Old Yeller.
Huh; Old Yeller. I think this should be her nickname from now on.
He's about ten years older. Still a big gap, and yeah, he'd be a teacher, but not that much.
I swear, if they rehash the LN's ending and don't have Theo taking out Axmann himself after they've built him up so heavily, I'll feel robbed.
Theo really should go after Axmann, Iris should've been the one fighting Beatrix since they have the most history together.
He look a lot older, must've seen some horrible combats.
I already told 'em to get to working on TE Extraverse and they're late as shit, since they were slow the queue got larger and now SE needs it as well.
Obviously they don't want money.
There's really not that much to discuss on that front. Just stuff like "so sad", "Lise's death was tragic/pitiable/unfortunate",
Basically, some idiot decided to jump the gun. People ignored him. He's crying that the only people who could possibly dislike his edgy thread are Lisefags, which is funny for me, seeing as how I, the OP, am a Katiafag. I just also like Lise a lot and I had no interest in participating in a terrible thread like his.
What has happened to the SM fanbase that has turned into this shitshow?
I just want to post Beato-san and chill with anons.
Are you looking forward to anime Beatrix's death, anon?
It is a shame as these threads were actually one of the better generals on 4chan.
I don't really have a stake in any of the arguments here but the level of vitriol is just unpleasant. I've been enjoying the show but its clearly to controversial to expect a fun discussion about it on the internet.
The betrayal wasn't what did the threads in, it was episode 9, when neither Katia nor Iris had lines outside of the ED and Iris had absolutely no screentime to speak of. That's when I noticed things became really ugly, really fast.
It is going to be painful watching my waifu die and I expect lots of "quality."
I just noticed the level of viciousness has really gone up to the point where it has become a /pol/ tier thread.
These threads were always relaxed because people never took the waifu banter and themselves so seriously but clearly that has changed.
>they're much better mid-weekday
I agree. It is nice being to browse them at work and have a comfy discussion.
Yeah it is when all that anti-Iris shit posting started for no apparent reason.
>inb4someone posts the android images.
It is pretty funny when you can tell posters from other boards based on their language and the images they use.
But anon! I like the other posters and their waifus!
I'm getting really creeped out by how Katia never cries over anybody besides Theo and her dad in the anime. She cried like crazy over different things in the VN. She cried about Kurt, Vivi, and all the other people in the Fort, she cried about the insane cruelty of the Stasi, and I'm sure she'll have more scenes with her crying in the second VN.
Anime Katia doesn't cry ever. She tears up, sure, but she never cries. Is it all to prepare us for the big waterworks moment she makes her big speech, or is she just supposed to be a tougher cookie than LN/VN Katia?
How the fuck can a country that is on the frontlines of an alien invasion and is subsequently protecting the western hemisphere not only be so undermanned and undersupported but still find the time to have a military coup a day?
Stop it! Don't spread the shit posting to our thread!
If you guys can't get along I am going to force you to go on a date with each other!
>But anon! I like the other posters and their waifus!
Then you're going to have to accept a certain amount and level of shitposting about those waifus. Just 'cause you like 'em, doesn't mean everyone else does.
Try to develop an attitude that helps you ignore the shitposting. You can always hide the posts, as well.
Okay anon, babies you don't know or your family.
Take your pick.
Oh wait, archair toughguy-kun wouldn't be able to make a choice, so both him, his family and the babies die by someone else' hand.
You're nothing but a clown ignorant of how the world worked, and how it still works in certain countries.
Creating and spending time on emotion in a story takes time and pacing which Schwarzesmarken is lacking in. Even without reading the LN it feels like they are trying to tell a bigger story in too small a space.
>Try to develop an attitude that helps you ignore the shitposting. You can always hide the posts, as well.
Anon I am already there. I am just trying to be like Katia and get everyone to get along.
I wonder if she would still be Theo's semi-imouto in Extra-verse or if Theo would still be with his own parents.
>undermanned and undersupported but still find the time to have a military coup a day?
Because the Stasi have their own military in reserve and use that to intiate a coup, which then lead to the NVA/Rebel calling in NVA forces from the already undermanned defense line to help fight the Stasi, or atleast that's what I'm seeing.
>>I wonder if she would still be Theo's semi-imouto in Extra-verse or if Theo would still be with his own parents.
Maybe both? They're neighbors but she still calls him onii-chan because they practically grew up together. Maybe Ursula is also his neighbor and calls him onii-san.
Well, trying to get everyone to get along and merely ignoring shitposts are two very different things. With the latter, you don't need to respond or talk about shitposts, just post stuff you like and move on.
Guys, this was a happy episode for me because Lise is dead. What you guys don't get is that Lise was the reason that Theo was originally captured. If it wasn't for her, Theo would've never been traumatized to begin with.
That sound advice. Thank you anon.
Now the bigger question is:
>younger or older Beato-san?
Goddamn what a beast. Although I'm a little concerned that the diehard loyal representative of a communist party is portrayed so heroically, much more so than the source material.
I've been through a war myself, anon. I'm no stranger to violence and believe me when I tell you that desperate people would do stomach churning shit like smashing babies for their loved ones without all too much hesitation, parents especially.
I'd fuck younger Beato and loli Ursula at the same time.
Young Beatrix is probably one of the best waifus in the whole franchise.
He's just making reposts from MAL. Of course those retards need to justify their hateboners for Lise and Beatrix.
Ponytail or no ponytail?
What war and what did you experience anon?
Shes a miracle of the universe more news at 11.
Older with Younger's personality.
Mmm, that's a tough choice. My general favorite hairstyle is long and loose, but the ponytail really looks good on Beato.
If push comes to shove, I'd say ponytail, if for no other reason than she might be less likely to be in the mood to kill me.
Why'd the Stasi have to take these smiles away?
>Usula's house on the left and Lise's house on the right
Being an Onii-chan is tough, he better have windows facing both houses.
>diehard loyal representative of a communist party is portrayed so heroically
I'm only seeing the loyalty to the party in the Commissar though, everyone else that joined is just varying degrees of hating the Stasi.
I think I would pussy out and fail to make a decision if they told me I would be the one who will be killed. If told they will kill the one I love though, I bet I would kill those babies and proceed to have a mental breakdown
Someone really likes SM and Seed
Oh, I see, well I kinda like it, she's wholeheartedly devoted to what she think is right.
>Those giant breasts on Pham and Slywia in the background
I don't want to blog here but some perspective is needed, I was young, had artillery and mortar shells fly over my head from a bombardment camp 300 meters from my position, collapsed buildings with families still in them, blood pooling out of the rubble, firsthand experience with a gun, only managing to hit the thigh though, hiding in underground storage sheds with neighbors tripped with wire bells and empty cans to alert of approaching danger.
Abominable shit, people aren't joking when they say war is hell, one moment you're running the other moment there's a hole the size of 2 cars 10 meters from you.
>Gets imouto captured by the stasi
>Adopts another imouto at the first chance he finds
>Pumps and dumps original imouto when they finally meet
>Finally kills imouto so he can be with another blonde
My my, why is Eberbach-kun such a shitty onii-chan?
What is THIS expression trying to convey?
What beer does Beato-san drink?
I have a coworker from Serbia who just, by a hair, missed out in the Yugoslavian wars.
Anyway as a history fag I am always very interested in learning first hand accounts of an event that occurred in history so I appreciate your post.
Sure, like this?
I have no clue either as all I ever drink is cider.
Onii-chan fucking cheated I want a rematch
The only think the LN end has in its favor is the hug. They needed that final touch of physical contact, or even if he just took her outreached hand.
He could've held her hand.
>only ones who like the cumrag are eurocucks
What will Theo do with her ribbons now? Will he bury her with them so she can still feel he is with her in the afterlife or will he keep them with himself as his last memento of Lise?
I only really enjoy alcohol either when I'm watching football in a bar with plenty of company or when I eat something with a decent amount of fat, especially the latter, it goes straight down like water.
So that basically amounts to 1.5-2 liters per week, not a whole lot consider we're the biggets drinkers in Europe as of 2014.
He'll probably bury her with them, but who knows? Maybe he'll go full weirdo and insist that Katia wear them because she reminds him of Lise and thus he can pretend she's still with him. I'm sure she'd agree to it if it made him happy, though she might feel a little weirded out if he started calling her Lise.
There's two ribbons so maybe bury one with her, if they have time to bury her, and keep one with him.
>Theo tie his hair with the ribbon
Didn't think of that one
>Theo tie his hair with the ribbon
You know, I want to laugh at the image, but it's so sad I feel myself tearing up. Damn, I am an anime only and still feel like shit for her, if the vn is translated I know I will cry like a little girl.
Just spam reports against this thread, is just a shitpost thread and also violate the rules of 4chan.
The original thread was made way before this lisefag shithole.
Maybe tie them on his arm like what the rebel did with yellow clothe?
If I remember correctly, the VN ended at the end of Operation Neptune so there's nothing to cry about
If we're going by the anime scene then it's going to be a very short route, it doesn't look like she can survive that much sharpnels for more than half an hour at best.
Well, her anime death was anime original. The divergence would more likely happen right around the beginning of the VN, with Lise asking Theo to run off with her.
This is assuming Age doesn't decide to do three Irisdina routes.
There is quite a bit of potential for all sorts of points in the story that could branch into uncharted territory.
You're damn right it is.
I guess that could work, though I still say it'll be a pretty short route since they'll have to escape both the Rebel and the Stasi now.
Early divergence would make a lot more sense. The routes should be lock down by the Stasi coup begin already.
>This is assuming Age doesn't decide to do three Irisdina routes.
For what purpose.
Yeah. I noticed that. One other thing I noticed is that most of the people who read BiS are usually Beatrixfags while those who stick to SM are Irisfags:
Take for instances above, who was an Irisfag. He said he was jumping with joy when he found out Iris was getting more LNs, but after reading BiS, he now thinks Beatrix-chan is the best girl.
>All the "its ok to bash babies skulls" fags in this thread
But she already has a man, a man with excellent taste to boot.
I mean, all three routes being Iris would just make it a kinetic VN, that's just boring.
But that's part of the party's national budget.
>a man with excellent taste to booty.
The other two not being... quite as popular as Iris in terms of favorites doesn't mean they won't get routes. They're promoted fairly heavily as being heroines right alongside her, and I think a lot of people, Irisfags included, wouldn't like it if it was a railroad.
Well she already cooks, so she has that part down.
Iris would probably be better though. I don't think Beatrix would have the temperament to deal with children.
Yes, and Beatrix's mom died while Beatrix was still very young apparently. Neither would be that good, but Iris would probably be better just because she's more likely to exercise patience and empathy.
Imagine if, upon burying Lise's cooling corpse, Theo turned to Katia and gave her the ribbons that Lise had on her when she died. He asked her if she could honor one simple request - wear these ribbons, just as Lise did. He finally admitted here that she reminded him a lot of her, and that it would mean a lot to him if she did this. While I'm sure Katia would be taken offguard at the abruptness of this request, not to mention the timing, she would be more than willing to let him have his way for this.
Even if, upon actually holding them in her hands and bringing them to up to her face, she'd notice that they carry the faint odor of iron, blood, and other smells that Lise had to endure for years. Though he did wash them beforehand, so it's not that bad. I'm sure she would try to find a way to satisfy his desire while letting herself keep her own ribbon on.
Perhaps she would employ the mythical tritail hairstyle. I think that would be enough to let Theo look at her and see his sister in her. Though, such a vivid reminder of his sister nearby at all times might end up having the exact opposite effect. Maybe Katia would regret ever letting him have his way there at all. Just imagine it - the girl he had loved for much of his life, the girl he had to kill with his own two hands, and now it was like she was still alive! Especially if, at one point, Theo accidentally called Katia 'Lise'.
At first she laughed it off, but over time, his 'slips' became more and more deliberate. It looked as if his whole world would shatter to pieces should she tell him to stop, so Katia, once again, accepted his weird quirk. Slowly, he stopped calling her by her own name, and referred to her only as Lise. He would cry to her, tel her about everything they did together when they were kids, and seemingly try to 'bring Lise back'. Katia would let herself get walked all over by Theo here, because after all, at least he loved her, even if he called out Lise's name much of the time.
Reminder the only thing keeping Beato from the best ever are her cow tits
It's obviously going to be not so black and white, Suzy is obviously kind of insane and motivate solely by hatred for the Stasi, that's never a good sign. I wouldn't be surprise if, once the Rebel won, Suzy just start initiating a purge using the Stasi file.
Suzy takes the whole rebellion in a french revolution direction. The spoilerfags all the way back last year were talking shit about how she fucked over Beatrix's ceasefire because killing stasi is more important than killing BETA. This isn't even getting into the torture she does.
She was also the one who apparently forced Theo to shoot Lise. Even handed him a gun and said if you don't, we'll torture and shoot you.
It was well done, Theo has a good seiyuu.
Is there any significance at all about Suzy and Heinz having identical hair and eye colors? They look like they could be siblings.
That actually makes a lot of sense. Axmann was her brother and treated her like shit. It would also explain her name. I remember one of the two LNfags way back on /m/ saying that her Suzy Zap was not her birth name and that she'd changed it for some reason. Maybe it's because she's ashamed of being an Axmann.
She probably only drinks harder stuff. Beer is too easy.
Marry that child off to Anette's child, and you'd have the ultimate melee bloodline.
Debatable whether it could stand up to YAMATO DAMASHIIIIIIII. So bully Yui some more and steal some of her eggs, and have that ultimate bloodline fertilize that egg, cucking Yui out of motherhood, because she's a shit.
Take one of Cryska's eggs, fertilize it with the bloodline, and have her carry the twins, cucking Yui even out of pregnancy. Have those half-sibling twins marry eventually. Repeat this same process for Tarisa and Yuuya's genetic material, having Stella carry the kid. Marry this child with the bloodline child, making the final, ultimate, melee fighter.
I was just thinking about this, but Beatrix would've likely had Theo tortured to death even if Lise had turned him. Once Beatrix was on top, she wouldn't of been restrained by Schmidt and would be able to exercise her sadism on as many people as she wanted. Lise was just a tool, a toy for her to bat around like a cat, and once she grew bored of Lise, she disposed of her, as this episode showed. Really, I think Beatrix is the most selfish person in the anime.
Axmann is probably the only one more selfish. He can at least plan ahead though. Beatrix is controlled more by her sadistic impulses than Axmann, which is why she can't help being a bitch to her underlings even though it's counter-productive to her. She's a scary commander, and probably the type who's so stupidly evil that she'd look at a defeat and start getting wet at all the dead people, both on her side and the enemies.
>REAL FUCKING THREAD
>LISE BREAK AWAY THREAD
Come back to the real thread, No need to be mad over a characters death.
It was a SHIT anime anyway so lets shitpost at the real thread okay?
Oh Schmidt, don't tell me you're mixing routes too.
>hurr durr I only watch the anime, reading books is for fags
>voiced over animated books on computers? That's even more gay, fag