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What happened /a/? How did DEEN make the AOTY while KyoAni made

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What happened /a/? How did DEEN make the AOTY while KyoAni made the WAOTY? Are we witnessing the revival of DEEN and the downfall of KyoAni?
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>>137295525
>haremshit
>AOTY
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>>137295525
F U N
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>>137295525
>AOTY

It's not bad, but no one is going to remember it two seasons from now. Don't kid yourself.
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>>137295525
Both are utter shit
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>>137295525
Deen has good source material to work with. Also not AOTY by the way.
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>>137295525
>DEEN's AOTY
>Konosuba
>Not Sakamoto
Come on now
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>>137295545
>>haremshit
>harem
ur a shit
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>>137295525
Because DEEN knows how to make a good anime. Kyoani is just full of hacks.
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>>137295678
Who cares. DEEN wins either way and now they're going to earn the rare title of having two consecutive AOTS's.
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>>137295525
When you're at rock bottom, the only way to go is up.

And what goes up eventually comes down.
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>>137295555
I will. That "duel" scene alone will make me want to rewatch this show at some point. To me this is just about as good as harem/comedy, as lacking a genre as it is, can get
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>>137295545
>I've literally never watched the show I'm commenting on
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>>137295555
>two seasons from now.
More like less than one
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>studio memeing
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>>137297179
>DEEN knows how to make a good anime
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>>137295555
you're retarded. this is by far the best fantasy comedy anime since slayers. i hope the entire LN is adapted.
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DEEN got a lucky break.
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>>137300497
two lucky breaks you mean. they're also animating the other AOTY contender this season, Shōwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjū
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I don't know who's baiting who anymore.
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>>137298224
It is a harem.
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>>137301486
No it's not.
It won't get close to a harem before season 3, and even then it will never be the focus.
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>>137302757
Anon, it's harem, you don't have to be ashamed of it because it's actually good, just tell the other guy to fuck off.
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>>137302784
Under no definition is season 1 a harem.
You need at least 3 persons to like the main character romantically for it to be a harem.
At this point, and for the rest of the season, the number is zero.
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Kyoani was on the downturn for a long time, its like with great athletes where there's a subtle decline for years until there's just a career ending failure that makes you realize holy shit they actually sucked for a while and I was blinded by their reputation
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>>137302852
That's a really retarded way of being in denial.
It has been harem since Vol. 1. Even Kazuma gave her harem roles long before Megumin or Darkness confessed.

Just accept that it's a harem and move on.
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>>137295525
it's actually ridiculous how konosuba is genuinely the best show of this season at least
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>>137295525
It's so meaningless to say this when the season itself is only about halfway done. It would be AOTY of all of fucking 10% of this year so far. Not very impressive; chances are high multiple Spring shows will outdo it.

Not to mention, you are bound to draw fire from Boku Dake fans for the (so-far) AOTY.
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>>137302941
More like your taste is genuine shit if you actually think harem crap animated by koreamen is anything but bottom of the barrel tier
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>doubting kyoani
>doubting moe deaf girl
>doubting hibikek s2

Come on guys, 2016 just started. Judge them by the end of the year.
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>>137302852
Why do some fanboys always pretend that their harem of the season is somehow not a harem?
Especially when it's such a clean cut "one male protag surrounded by many girls" type?
Jesus Christ, it being good, focusing more on comedy and such doesn't somehow change it into non-harem.
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>>137297326
This, DEEN could not simply shovel out shit flop nonstop for the rest of time and just be fine that way; something had to give or they wouldn't make it as a studio.

KyoAni's boondoggle comes from their listening to fan feedback/suggestions on what they wanted out of a show, and for some reason they thought Phantom World fit their descriptions since they wanted a fanservicey harem-y/action show. I guess it shows KyoAni has valid proof to never listen to fans again. It is also possible, imo, that a bunch of trolls infiltrated KyoAni's fan response and essentially trolled KyoAni into being convinced this would be a hit.
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>>137302926
Eventhough Kazuma gave them their harem role, doesn't mean it's harem anime, faggot.
Season 1 wont be a harem, but it will later. Unfortunately, season 2 never.
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>>137302991
Maybe you should watch one episode of a show before you decide to shitpost about it?
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>>137303007
>There are girls around
>They must automatically want the MC dick
10/10 logic
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>>137303052
Nobody asked for another huge-tit ecchi.
Nobody asked for random action scenes which don't go anywhere.
Nobody asked for a harem with a protag who has no character or presence.
And especially nobody asked for the worst case of token loli.
It's their fucking fault, and now they drink their stupidity.
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I want /v/ to leave.
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>>137303056
>Kazuma is surrounded by beautiful girls interested in him
>sexually harasses them
>thinks of them as harem members
>not harem
Are you an idiot?

Even in Vol. 2 he had Darkness scrubbing his back and him locked up with Megumin in the toilet, are you saying that those are not harem comedy scenes?

Why is that hard for you to accept that Konosuba has always been a Harem, even if a good one.
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>>137295525
>muh sales
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>>137302852
under the definition that it's a party of only one male and many female companions. Romance or not, that makes it a harem. It's a great show regardless, not sure why people get so bent about what are already flimsy as shit genre definitions
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>>137303114
One guy, surrounded by many girls.
Also it's pretty clear that the girls have their harem role.
Why the hell are you trying to think up your own definitions of harem to actually disprove a text-book fantasy harem series being harem?
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>>137303148
It's only a few faggots.
I'm a LNfag and I fucking love Gifting, but anyone saying it's not a harem is just being retarded.
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>>137302991
The best of anime is moe and harem shit, a lot of anime falls into the bland/angst category so anything good will be a rare good drama or little girls
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I'm just wondering whether how Konosuba could be possibly even better than it is right now. Sure, there are a lot of DEEN quality moments in the show, but it actually sort of complements the overall silly nature of the show. I'm also not sure why there seem to be many who has a distaste for Konosuba. I bet over half of the people who just call it generic power fantasy haremshit haven't even watched the first episode and purely shitpost because their favorite show isn't doing as well.
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Yes, Deen is making the AOTS, but it most certainly is not that abhorrent LN trashshit of a show
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>>137303331
>little girls
>anime
I don't think they really make anime with them as more than just token lolis, aside from children's shows.
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>>137303341
Maybe if they gave us fanservice of Megumin, not just Aqua, I liked it more.
The fanservice allocation is horrible for flat lovers.
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>>137303382
You'll get heartservice at least, in future seasons if they exist.

Her being the main love interest and all that.
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>>137303343
No one even watches rakugo. You have to be a natural born mark to think adult protagonist and high numbers are the sign of patrician tastes* Nip pandering always does well with jap audiences. That garbage military ad is high ranked too

*/v/ermin maymay
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>>137295525
DEEN makes meme of the season, KyoAni makes eternal classics.

Past this season everyone will forget about such thing as KonoSuba existed, meanwhile KyoAni shows become better with time as good wine, so they dont rush for immidiate gains, but polish their works to deliver them in exceptional quality so that would not be ashamed of later generations watching it.

Every KyoAni "flop" (except Munto) became a classic that ages well and gains recognition and appraisal with time.

Nichijou, Tamako Market, even KnK - which in hindsight is very worth watching.

If KyoAni wanted fast gainst, they`d do Amagi again which was just like KonoSuba - otaku oriented easy humor with low budget.

Meanwhile:
>random studios happy for selling 1000 BDs ..
>while KyoAni sells anime license to Disney Channel
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>>137303343
>I hate fun
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>One bad show means the downfall of a studio.

1. Phantom World isn't even WOTS.
2. This bait is awful.
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>>137295525
Both of those are egregious exaggerations.
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>>137303415
Um, you know Rakugo is fujo material, right?
Nobody surprised about it doing alright, fujos being strong is no news.
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>>137303440
The bait isn't awful, look how everyone falls for it.
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>>137295525
>february
>waoty
>aoty

Good one, OP
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>>137303422
I agree, except with your thoughts about Phantom World, as it IS indeed another Amagi, big boob ecchi with sloppy otaku humor, which thankfully people had about just enough lately.
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>>137303470
Putting Kyoani in it it's like cheating. People will bite no matter what it is.
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>>137303480
Amaburi was actually funny though.
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>>137303480
I know this is bait, but I loved the fuck out of ABP but find Phantom World to be a complete snoozefest.
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>>137303480
Nah, as it stands atm Phantom World is basically a kid`s show - and pretty decent at that, however not appealing to adult otaku audience.

The problem is though, that LN is not for kids so it might be mistake adapting it like that while LN is more raunchy material.
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Konosuba has good source material and good staff, so it is no surprise that the anime is good.
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>>137303423
You can have fun all you want, but that doesn't mean that the anime is actually good.

It's the same 'stuck in a fantasy MMO' crap we've had for 10 years, it's not creative or well-made in any way or shape
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>>137303155
>Why the hell are you trying to think up your own definitions
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By that retarded logic if you are in a room with more than 3 girls you are in a harem.
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>>137303549
This post just shows you haven't even watched it.

It's literally not an MMO, and it's not the same as any other adapted Isekai story.
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>>137303364
I'm not talking about some shounen trash like one piece or naruto with 'token' bath scenes and little girls. You need to watch it to know, the SoLs they're formally called. They're comedies with pretty animation styles, funnier than anything you could find on your local television right now
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>>137303526
>basically a kid's show
No, it isn't anymore than ABP. It's just that it is horrible in every aspect, but definitely they tried to target otaku.
Too bad they have no fucking ideas how to do that anymore.
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>>137303526
How many shows this season are all-ages and family friendly you can watch together with your 6yo daugheru on big screen in living room?

Phantom World
Akagami (for slightly older shoujo audience)
Luck and Logic (shit)
Haruchika (also it`ll be boring for kids)

Making mainstream shows pays in the end long term.
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>>137295525
Is Konosuba the "overrated shit with a vocal circlejerking fanbase" show of the season?
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>>137303571
Except I watch any decent, or half decent SoLs, and they're my favorite.
However there are seldom little girls in them, with Non Non being an exception.
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>>137303559
If you and said girls behave in all kind of harem hijinks like they do in Konosuba, then yes, it's a fucking harem.
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>>137303581
>>137303526
Stop forcing this shit.
Phantom World is horrible, yet an otaku targeted horrible.
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>>137303594
Considering the LN sales skyrocketed and it's ranked higher than other shows in Stalker, no, the hype is actually real.
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>>137303573
>No, it isn't anymore than ABP.
No its not. ABP is by no means family friendly - Gotoh made sure to write is as adult perspective parody on "sweet" theme. This shows writing aimed at adults exclusively, so are most jokes and stuff.

>It's just that it is horrible in every aspect,
Except it gets good character, nice soundtrack, good animation, impressive direction making every episode being emotionally hooking.

If they wanted to try to target Otaku, they would have not toned down the novels so much.

Its bad "battle harem" if you expect one, but good Disney/NHK show for appropriate audiences.
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>>137303619
Stop forcing this shit. Phantom World is better animated and directed that 95% stuff this season. The fact that it does not appeal to smelly fat otaku like yourself is indication of its quality.
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>>137303594
>overrated shit with a vocal circlejerking fanbase

Exactly like Kyoani
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>>137303662
>>137303684
Nice samefagging.
It is a late night show, aimed at otaku, and that is a fact, no matter what kind of retarded shit you're forcing, and the fanservice of the big breasted girl makes it very clear.
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>>137303594
That is NTRased

Konosuba is genuinely good. Also humbert humbert is a much better composer than yuki kajiura.
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>>137303594
Pretty much, the show wont even sell 5k and the retarded fanbase actually believes it is the next big thing.
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>>137303605
Assuming your still the same guy konosub is slice of life and a pretty funny comedy. Just because the threads are constant harem shitposting doesn't mean thats the reason its popular
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>>137303750
I know what Konosuba is, and even watch it.
I just don't like it very much, since Megumin is my favorite, and it still is harem.
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>>137295525
>pitch the fanbase of seasonal designated shitpost anime against the black horse of the season
300 replies 49 images omitted.
Now post this shitty false flagging every day until it sticks, not that you need that much effort to troll neo-/a/.
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>>137303007
"NNB is harem"

-Anon 2016
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>>137303906
Nice try, fucktard.
>NNB has a male protag!
-Anon 2016
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>>137295525
DEEN has nothing to do with story in anime, just QUALITY animation that happen to mix well enough with comedy story.
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>>137303570
I have fucking watched it, but I never claim that it's AOTS material.

Don't sugarcoat it, this is a shitty anime and you know it, whether it is funny or not is a whole different subject
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DEEN can only do comedy.

>the one time you want DEEN to do a S2 is the only time they don't
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>>137295525
Pic related is AOTY, not that one.
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Boku Dake is actually AOTS since its actually interesting.
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>>137295525
Thanks DEEN
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>>137304254
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>>137300653
>they're also animating the other AOTY contender this season, Shōwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjū
Holy fuck i've been loving this show. How i never noticed DEEN was making it i have no-idea, this really is thier season.
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>>137303805
At least it's not a harem that's being shoved down our throats yet.
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