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/a/ will defend this
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>>136214349
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Love happened.

When they say hate can turn into love in the blink of an eye, they aren't kidding.
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Beato wanted the battler cock since day 1.
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>>136214349
>just started episode 6
>that last pic
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE although, I expected that
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>>136215811
>watching that abomination

Do yourself a favor and read the VN.
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>>136215899
Anon, please.
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>>136215899
Damn it, anon. I couldn't tell if you were being or not for a second.
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>>136214349
>not original sprites
fuck off
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>>136216393
serious*
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>>136216421
>implying PS3 sprites + voices isn't the definitive experience
>being the Umineko equivalent of ONEfags
fuck off
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>>136216537
>not new and improved Philippino battler

fuck off
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>>136216537
>PS3 sprites
fucking bull shit is what this is.
i call bullshit
BULLSHIT
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>>136215899
>>136216537
And then the manga for EP8. It's basically double the length of the vn one from all the added/rewritten content.
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Rock em sock em daughters
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>I prefer the original because muh creator's artistic vision over objectively superior art
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>>136217120
no, like >>136216598 said, they are indeed more charming. maybe it's just because some of us read it like that first, but i wouldn't have it any other way. the new ones aren't an improvement at all. i wouldn't say anything if they were better
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PS3 human and witch sprites look better but original sprites have better goats since they're creepier rather than looking like giant hulks.

Original backgrounds are better because they're just filtered real pictures and easier to project your imagination onto, the PS3 backgrounds are at bizarre fucking angles and distort the size between the sprites and the space around them.
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>>136217821
Does anyone have the image of George and Shannon at the aquarium where they're floating?
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>>136214349

Whether or not magic caused the events at Rokkenjima is not even an actual question. Any competent reader would understand by Episode 4 or 5 that the disaster was not caused by actual magic. So when they are discussing "magic" they are not talking about sorcery or anything supernatural at all.

The story is about how we choose to view the unknowable past and how we want to handle tragedy. I do not think that this series is easy for younger people to relate to-- it's a much better read if you are old enough to have dealt with the death of a parent and the investigation that follows. You can look at the Rokkenjima situation as a "mystery" and obsess over it and try to solve it-- R07 argues that doing so is an unhealthy approach and that our pursuit of truth does not really accomplish anything. Ange's life is made substantially worse by her search for the truth, because the truth is both unknowable and what does remain of it is actually horrible.

Accepting "magic" is a way of looking at the past where you are willing to forgive, gloss over, and let things stay private or in the dark. It's a way of "letting go" and moving on. What matters most for our future is not determining exactly what happened in the past, we can invent any story we really would like to explain it, and it does not matter all that much whether or not it is the actual truth. And the only one with the right to say anything about what happened on Rokkenjima and the only person who has a vested interest is Ange anyways. So what is it to you? Accepting a gentle lie lets Ange move on and do something positive with her life.

Battler's message to Ange is that she does not need the weight of knowledge. Ange has been so caught up in the mystery of Rokkenjima that it distorted her ability to see anything positive at all about her own family. She was only able to see Eva as an enemy or a potential murderer because of it. And the actual truth is worse. Magic is the better option.
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>>136214349
Wait, beato win?
Time to read this shit
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>>136218066
*unsheathes katana*
*teleports behind u*
*shatters your illusions*
psshh nothin personnel.. witch
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>>136218067
>Any competent reader would understand by Episode 4 or 5 that the disaster was not caused by actual magic.
By the introdution of the game board i already knew none of that was magic, but i thought at first that it was the protag trying to reason the events in his head over and over again in his dying mind with all the purgatory allusions and what not.
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>>136215811
>Typing in caps
>Not having read it ages ago
>Clicking the thread
You deserved this, it was entirely self inflicted. Shanon = Kanon = Beatrice.
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>>136218105
>>136218192
YAMI WO KIRISAKU
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Where the fuck is WtC3?
I thought we would have Space Nipah by now.
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>>136218774
The witches were ALIENS all along!
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>>136218140
no, nobody won, but the biggest loser was whomever read that shit
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>>136218067
>>136218356
This is the reason I prefer VN version over the manga especially ep.8.
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>>136218502
You mean WTC 5
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>>136219603
You know what he meant.
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>>136218774
Didn't Ryu announce that his schedule would change from one release every 6 months to one year?
He still didn't do it but maybe it has something to do with the fact that he's working on three things right now.
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Is there any kind of torrent for the whole thing prepatched? I put this on my backlog years ago while waiting for PS3 patches to finish and then just forgot about it.
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>>136219830
yes, it's at the usual place.
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>>136218067
But it's a book I read.
Is it really so bad to know what actually happened in a mystery novel I read?
Also, can't you just accept the truth and move on from it, instead of accepting the lie? Aren't both equivalent, so the first one should be fine too?
Not that I'm saying Ange's obsession wasn't unhealthy. I'm just arguing the philosophy of it.
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>>136220003
I looked on nyaa but I can only find one for Chiru.
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>>136214349
You don't understand magic, OP. Every person loves different. Every loves is unique.
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>>136220105
There's a fuwanovel WTC3 torrent at the pirate bay.
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>>136217445
Reading it voiced is pretty disappointing, though. The voice actors themselves aren't bad (except Battler and Bernkastel, as Daisuke Ono is a complete miscast for his character, and Yukari Tamura doesn't really sound imposing enough when shouting to make for a good villain voice), but Umineko's crazy "UWOOOOOOAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH" screams are delivered really underwhelmingly by everyone but Beatrice.
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>>136220449
Anon pls... It's hilarious!
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I still haven't read episode 8. I downloaded it when it came out, waited warmly for the TL, then never played it. I don't feel like I have missed anything.
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>>136220449
>he doesn't like Ono's fun times with goat twister voice
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>>136220624
Good for you.
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>>136220580
>Really, I thought he did well.
He worked for when he had calmed down a bit in Chiru, but his hotblooded/angry screams were just embarrassingly bad. He does have good range as a voice actor, but Battler really needed a younger-sounding voice like Souichiro Hoshi (he already voiced Keiichi, though).
> I don't think you can be imposing when doing a calm stoic voice.
She's great at loli voices, flirty teen voices and deep calm voices, but whenever she was screaming at others such as Erika, Lambda or Battler, she just sounded like an annoyed Ranpha rather than a villain.
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I just woke up. I get so drunk yesterday that I fell asleep for like ten hours. I lost my Saturday. I was so drunk that I watched Master of Martial Hearts...The five episodes... I don't want to do anything now. I don't know if I want to sleep again or not.
>>136220959
You're a very boring guy, huh? Just look at it as if were a comedy.
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>>136221055
Battler's screaming does sound just like Juushimatsu.
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Ps3 sprites and voices?
.........
/a/ never changed its still as retarded as ever
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>>136221155
Me: Guys, I'm drunk and super inquiet! I want to watch something to wake up from this beautiful dream. I want to watch the worst piece of shit that exist in this world. What do you recommend me to watch before throwing up?
A gentleman: Ignore what anyone else said. Master of Martial Hearts. And you have to watch to ep 5.
Me: HAHAHA! It's the fucking third time in this week that someone recommended me this shit. Okay, Okay... HAHAHA. iM GOING TO SEE TAT PEC OF SHIT~
The anime start...
Me: The opening is shit already.
Pokémon Trainer: Hating on PA PA PA PA PA PA... What's wrong with you?
Me: Oh, this is one of those "dirty" anime for boys, huh?
Me: OMFG "the power of friendship" what the fuck am I watching?
Me: This shit is yuri, right? I don't want to see that. Argh!!! "cries"
Me: That miko is so useless.
Me: This shit is stupid but for now looks pretty normal. The typical ecchi shit. Why so many people hate this?
Me: Miko is nice. Best girl.
Me: I don't know if it's because everyone tell me that it's shit or because my head hurts but I'm starting to get bored. Friendship!!!... Tokyo Ghoul... I hate that shit. I don't know why so many girls likes that shit. I hate it. (random talk with other anon)
Me: Argh! I really hate this shit. It's so cliche.
Me: I don't like this... I wonder if it's because of the fucking English dubs.
Me: Well, I already watched the first episode. I want to die. "head hurts" I'm curious about this terrible ending. How bad is it?
Me: Wait... Woah! There's only five episodes???
Me: Episode 2... Still alive.
Me: Ahh... Okay, now that the voices are in japanese is more easy to watch.
Part 1
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The only voice I couldn't stand was Maria's. Holy fuck, I can completely emphasize with Rosa on that one. That "uu~~~uu" sound was like listening nails scratching on a chalkboard.
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>>136221349
Me: Uuuu, a mystery...
Anon: Not worth it in Japanese.
Me: "family picture" Bunny suit!!! Mom is nice. Meh, the dubs are terrible (to the other anon).
Me: I want to see that horrible ending right now. I want blood, anon.
Me: This anime is just an excuse to watch tits, right? You fucking perverts...
Me: Blah blah blah. No one cares for that Miko... I KNEW IT SENSEI IS EVIL.
Me: WtF was that?? That fight was boring. That voice... doesn't fit the character at all. Sensei sounds like a teenager.
Me: Ok, this is fucking stupid.
Me: "Chemical combo attacks"
Anon: That was the best part of the entire show.
Me: This is so stupid it's hilarious. I fucking love this shit. HAHAHAHA.
Me: "Lethal weapon: Mustard gas" Ouch. She killed her teacher.
Me: Meh, this one wasn't so bad. Boring, but the fight with Sensei was funny at least. Episode 3... Still alive and less drunk.
Me: This one started already with a fight. Interesting at least. I don't want to get bored watching this shit. Oh... what am I watching? What is this? Why?
Me: Oh, the protagonist is beginning to enjoy hurting other, huh? I like that. "happy"
Me: "Moe burger" This is the episode three, right? Right. Just two more.
Me: "pretty boy calls" Oh, I was just thinking about Haruki.
Me: Ecchi everywhere. Lewd. Why is a half naked police girl in a pool?
Me: If my mother sees me watching this shit she's going to think that I'm weird. "paranoid"
Me: I'm bored. Worst episode so far... Episode 4, still alive and feeling better. I hate this though.
Part 2
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>>136221402
Me: I still can't believe that idiot convinced me to watch this. Just why? "giving up"
An angel: Finish the fucking show, idiot.
Me: Okay, Okay. Fuck.
Me: Now it's a maid. I wonder what's going to happen next?
Me: Now she is singing and fighting at the same time...
Me: Oh, my fucking God. NO. Nonononononono.
Me: "The legendary Catgirl maid outfit"
Me: I wonder what they do with the losers... All those ugly otaku remind me of you guys.
Me: Episode five... I made it. Still alive and terribly disappointed. Let's finish with this shit.
Me: "the insanity begins" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! What the fuck?!
Me: This is insane.
Me: HAHAHA!!! This is unbelievable.
Me: NTR!!! What is happening? What is life right now?
Me: This is insane.
Me: BFF!!! Pffft.
Me: Did they really give her a gun? With bullets?! Are they fucking retarded?!
Me: Oh... Ok. "what is happening?"
Me: The fuck did I just watch?........What the fuck? I'm so confused... I feel happy and angry and disappointed and... What? What the fuck? What the fuck was that ending?... That idiot was right... "dies"
Me: Thank you. Thank you for... that. "in heaven"
The End
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>>136221310
fuck off /jp/
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>>136214349
>Not the original sprites
>Heavily Spoiling
>What is character development
>Shitposting

Sorry for spilling my hatred on you OP
Peace
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>>136221592
>Sorry for spilling my hatred on you OP
>Peace
You're boring.
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>>136221592
what a gay
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>>136221592
you're just mad that the only thing the original sprites excel at are OH DESIRE memes and having Bern's breasts bigger
>>136221803
y-you too
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>>136221889
>Pokemon Trainer's stream.
No, moron. I just looked for it on the internet and posted my reaction in /a/ while I was watching it.
>Well, at least it mind broke you, so it's all good.
It was so bad.
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>>136222082
Yes~
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>there are individuals who unironically prefer original sprites and no voices to PS3 sprite and voices

I just don't understand. I don't even mind the original sprites and enjoyed Higanbana in particular with them, but you just don't get the sense of immersion , the sense that they are real characters from paint tier sprites and only utilising one of your senses
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>>136216500
Using the VN's own logic it's easy to defend it. You can choose which aspects of George you want to pay more attention to. You can always twist each of his actions into meaning well or ill.
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I want to get into this but the one doujin on sadpanda has some dude being femdomed and turned into human furniture, does that happen a lot?
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>>136214349
>Yeah. The power to make our dreams real exists.

FTFY
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>>136222388
Reminder~
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You can't blame him.
Who doesn't want to fuck Beato?
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>>136222388
is he grabbing her ass
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>>136222357
Exactly once.
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>>136216500
>implying not wanting to drink alcohol like some derpshit who lost control of their life is bad thing
>he's never lifted up a real nine-year old
>implying he's not taking a light jab at Jessica
>he wouldn't stand up for his waifu
>implying Maria knew it was a joke and wasn't taking it seriously
>it's 2deep4him
>implying minding your own damn business is a bad thing like he doesn't know how the real world works
>all this reaching
>implying based Georgie doesn't get shit done when going gets tough
>being pure is a bad thing
>he can't into romance and women in general
>implying Maria isn't actually fucking annoying when she wants to be
>he says ironically while posting on 4chan's anime and manga board
>implying Jessica wasn't being a bitch as she's usually is 24/7
>implying that's not Battler
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>>136222988
>he doesn't do squats with 9 year old girls
sorry for your lot m8
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I don't know anything about this series but this image is the fucking best.
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>>136223548
>>136223650
>>136223718
anons pls, 9yr old girls are heavy as fuck these days
But I guess I shouldn't be comparing my experiences as an amerifat during modern times to Umineko which takes place years before and in fucking Japan
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>>136223904
You really should read it. The buildup to that scene is fucking priceless. Erika is the most lovable cunt ever conceived.
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>>136223904
Give this man his ticket to Rokkenjima so he can experience this wild wide with the rest of us. (and Higurashi, too, if you haven't.)
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>>136224014
C'mon, anon, we all know Rosa didn't give a fuck and forced Maria to eat at Wcdonald's every day.
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>Not the original art

Sausage fingers are the bomb
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Why read this when the conclusion is so bad?
>inb4 fuck off goat
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>>136224522
Suicide is boring and I'm not 24
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Where the fuck is chapter 0 of Hotoru-Bi? It was supposed to release in December, but I can't even find a raw
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Does Beato have a mangled mangina or normal magic genitals?
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>>136224735
nowhere

just like WTC5.
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so, uh, is bern and rika the same person or what. I feel like this is supposed to beobvious but i'm not completely sure
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>>136224780
But the difference is that the Hotaru-Bi chapter is out already (I assume), but it doesn't seem to be online yet
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>>136224856
It depends on your interpretation of witches and the Metaworld.

Maybe Bern is literally Rika ascended to witchhood.

Or maybe the events of Higurashi are another cat box, and Bern is a character based on the actual person Rika.
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>>136224902
I will proclaim it with the Green Truth.
>implying Hotaru-Bi chapter 0 isn't an illusion
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>>136225083
But I found this picture, so someone must have scanned it, right?
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>>136224856
They are not the same person, but they once shared the same soul.
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>>136224022
I did some looking into it
I have no idea where to find
Came across this
http://fuwanovel.net/novels/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-1-4-ps3-sprites-voices
http://fuwanovel.net/novels/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-chiru-5-8-ps3-sprites-voices
But don't see any sort of way to get it
Am I retarded?
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>>136225226
How do I know that isn't a doujinishi?
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>>136225692
After 5000 hours of searching I finally found it
http://marumaru.in/b/origin/121666
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>>136225316
>mary sue bitch
my sides
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>>136225855
Me neither. If anyone wants to translate it that would be great
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Without Love it cannot be seen.
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>>136226093
>that sudden Christfaggotry
>in my interactive Chinese picture books
almost made me drop it.
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I want to help these two bully someone.
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>>136220449
I liked the voices in the SOL scenes, but when shit started going down they just didn't live up to the hype.
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>>136226382
>implying Kuwatani/Ono's USHIROMIYA BATTLEEEEEEER FURUDO ERIKAAAAAAAAAA isn't hype
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Get a fucking room.
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>>136226251
Thinking rationally, it is more reasonable to be religious than not.
Unfortunately most atheists have traded their ability to think for a bottle of snake oil.
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>>136226659
>Spinoza
>Not giving a shit about spirituality
Did you just come back from intro to ethics or something?
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Worldend Dominator.

Pretty much the only thing i remember from Umineko.
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>>136226659
That's very obviously true, but not the subject of the argument.
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>>136220449
>hating the top tier cast and everyone's great performances
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>136226583
>believing in delusions and demonstrable falsehoods
>reasonable
noteuphoric/10
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>>136225464
https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=391262
https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=391263

Are the links I used but there's no seeders now so that kind of sucks.
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>>136226808
Yea, I saw those, there was another one that was being seeded, but it was only the chapters 5-8
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>>136226781
Outright denying something based on a provably false viewpoint doesn't sound all too rational to me.
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>>136224254
>>136224291
>>136224690
>>136225357
>>136225587
>>136225723
>>136226071
>>136226345
>>136226563
>>136226648
>>136226810
>>136226826
>>136226967
what the fuck is even going on here
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>>136226990
most of the hardcore atheists are actually agnostics though even Dawkins.
They just call themselves atheists because they don't want to pussyfoot around the fence.
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>>136227132
Desperate samefagging.
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>>136225763
This is Takano Miyo, right?
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>>136226775
>a-am I fitting in, guys?!
At least read the post before shitposting like a butthurt hivemind fanboy. He outright said the cast wasn't bad. The problem is more that Ryukishi writes such insanely hotblooded lines and screams that not even Japan's voice actors can shout with the fervor implied by the text.
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>buddy of mine gets spoiled just because these threads are so comfy to stay in

It's his own damn fault for delaying his next chapter for so long but god damn it, I was really looking forward to his unspoiled run of umineko. To watch him go through all the surprises, twists and fun while blind. But no, the faggot just had to tempt fate and stay in these threads.

Now who will I get to cryptically hint solutions at? There's no point in living if you can't watch another persons struggle in hindsight.
Why God? Why?
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Is there anyone with a short attention span ITT that managed to finish Umineko? I tried to read it 3 times and my record is only 3 episodes. The first time I dropped it was shortly after the rose garden. Are there some kind of secret technique or a few magical arts I can learn to get through this?
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>>136227132
what, you thought this was a seacats thread?
think again
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>>136227897
Not him, but if a book gets really fucking lame why keep reading?
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>>136227719
There's no point in forcing yourself to read it. Umineko is pretty slow, especially in the beginning, if you don't like that then you should probably just drop it
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>>136228080
Then its not an attention span problem.

However if you can't pick up ANY book, then you have a problem
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>>136228118
this. if you still don't like it by episode 2, you should just stop.
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>>136227719
You fucking little shit. Finish that damn thing, I swear to god I will put my penis in your eye socket if you dont
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>>136228133
I read for enjoyment, not for bragging rights on /lit/.
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>>136228321
And if people say it doesn't pick up?
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>>136228277
>he couldn't finish Infinite Jest, Today I Wrote Nothing, Gravity's Rainbow and Harry Potter
what a pleb
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>>136228444
Why don't you time travel your smelly ass to 2009 with your rp style posts, turbo dork.
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>>136228444
>It's like an obsession... even if its boring

So, autism?
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>>136228463
I tried reading Finnegans Wake once, but I just can't do it. I'm too weak
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>>136225316
Where does mahojo and whore rika come in?
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>>136228725
Roger that
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>>136228444
The manga art looks so good, is it worth reading? I can't imagine reading Umineko without the BGM timed to the scenes perfectly.
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>>136214349
It was good.
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>>136228780
Each episode is done by a different artist, but yeah, it's worth reading. I'd say Episode 8 is way better in the manga
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>>136228924
Yes I'm serious. Never seen them before
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>>136229461
Wow I never knew kira existed. Thanks anon
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>>136229461
>>136229560
Is Kira based on anything from the VN?
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>>136229617
Faggot.
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>>136229852
I don't even care about that, you type like a huge loser.
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>>136229787
Oh, that explains why I didn't recognize it. Thanks, guess I'll go watch it then
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>>136223909
>mfw i can squat 10 9 year olds raw
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>>136229920
Says the huge loser that whines about how others type on the internet.
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>>136230002
I haven't seen any of the anime, that's probably why I didn't know about Kira
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>>136230225
>Higurashi equivalent of Carnival Phantasm
I'll definitely watch it then
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Erkaposting soon fellow seacats.
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>>136230539
Oh god its the newfag again.
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>>136230484
Is it time?
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>>136216598
>>136216537
>Murata's version is superior
>literally no style other than "detailed"
>shitty Gantz-tier photoshop effects
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>>136230675
>I been here from the beginning

So what is the uncaused cause that started us all?
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>>136230740
Catposter is beginning of everything, aka God.

>god shitposts in seacat threads
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>>136230639
maybe!
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>TFW 75% of all dank meme seacat images in circulation are my creations

Call me, the meme sorcerer
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>>136230970
Most of these were made a very long time ago, back when the board was smaller. I can believe it.
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>>136226810
Maximising your profits.
If you do good now, you get to live forever in eternal bliss. That's like investing one lifespan worth to gain an eternity of bliss.
Profits to be had
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>>136230970
To create a world you need to have two people. If you don't have someone acknowledging your claim then your truth has no validity.
>>
Translator-kun
Don't give up. I believe in you.
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>>136231313
I have something better than that.
I have the Photoshop layer files of all the meme images. I am on a plane beyond mere mortal understanding
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>>136230970
Proofs?
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>>136231493
moot is dead, I must hear from Hiroshima
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>>136224743
Whatever you want there to be bby
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>>136231874
t. Alberto Battlerosa
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*BOOM*

*BOOM*

*CRASH*

That's all it takes for a goat to barge in and devour your game. Why don't you have a red truth ready?
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So, /a/, does magic exist?
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>>136232097
Is it the old creepy goats or the jacked as fuck mega goat?
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I don't know why some seacats have a problem with how the goats looked in the remake. I thought all that muscle went well with how stupid they are. I got a giggle every time one these big ass motherfuckers got summoned. Plus, makes for better doujin material.
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>>136232517
The problem is that the original looks more like baphomet and makes their initial appearance look way more unnerving as well as reinforcing the occult theme. When their entire body looks inhumanly hulkish it takes out the uncanny valley element and turns them into puddies.
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>>136232747
I understand, but that hulkish appearance made the Goat-kun scene even more hilarious.
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>>136225464
http://erogedownload.com/downloads/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni/
http://erogedownload.com/downloads/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-chiru/
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>>136233152
But Umineko isn't even an eroge
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>>136233209
Not for you.
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>>136233209
>he didn't unlock the special CG of Erika and Bernkastel raping Battler
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Why Rika is Hot?
Anon what, rika your prefer? loli or mature rika?
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>>136233326
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>>136233936
Loli Rika will forever be best Rika
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>>136214349

1-2 were Yasu forgery, while

3-8 were Hachijo/Ikuko forgery

go figure
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>Scans for Hotaru Bi Zero exist
Thank God. Now All we need is the completed translation for The First and Last Story and someone to translate Hotaru Bi and then we can begin again.

From what I gather, the new Miyoko is as much the same person as the original Miyoko as Erika is the same person as Rika.

>>136233936
My dick
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>>136234435
Where are the scans for Hotarubi? I was planning on scanlating it.
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>>136233936
What ridiculous yet sexy scene.
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What is this supposed to be?

http://marumaru.in/b/origin/121666
They look like shit desu senpai
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>>136234526
http://marumaru.in/b/origin/121666
The quality is pretty bad though
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Can witch hunters love witches? Especially petty as fuck ones?
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>>136225464
>>136226808

1-3 HD umineko

4-8 umi tweak release

you're welcome
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Monthly Action's website has 3 pictures of Hotoru-Bi characters, guess I might as well post them here in case anyone are interested
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>>136234878
But what if I get a 9?
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>>136235025
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>>136235080
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>>136235135
They also have this HQ preview image
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>>136235058

but that's a which version to take, anon.

why are you rolling?
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>Battler ends up giving tounge to a tranny and living with a Christmas cake
And I assumed that was was considered attractive because of his height
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>>136220449
Most of the VAs were okay, but the ones that really stood out were Erika, Lambda, Dlanor, Rosa, Beato, and Kinzo.
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OH SHIT, I found HQ Hotaru-Bi scans! They're in Korean though
http://mk1121.blogspot.no/2015/12/0_31.html
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>>136236035
>HQ
>This resolution
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It's been a few years since I read it and I'm fuzzy on the details, it was long as heck.
Is the manga accurate enough to the original that reading it would jog my memory and fill in the gaps?
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>>136236333
Yeah well, they're better than the Japanese scans I found earlier at least. Let's just say HQ stands for "Higher Quality" in this case
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>>136236346
Yes
It adds a lot to it too, largely in the form of the confession chapter
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>>136236473
That's a relief, I don't feel up-to reading an 120 hour vn that I've already read right now, maybe in a few years though.
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>>136236346
The manga are all pretty faithful adaptations. Episode 8's is especially good, adding new content like the "Confession of the Golden Witch" chapters.
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>>136214349
Wasn't beato actually a male?
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>>136221440
Downloading NOW. I'm so high I don't even care
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>>136236828
Ryukishi said that Yasu's gender is another cat box, but the baby that fell down the cliff was male iirc, so I guess so
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>>136236828
Yeah, but he had his dick ripped off and was raised by a homosexual butler hence the ambiguity
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Was it ever explained why Lion and Yasu have different hair colors?
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>>136236828
Yep.
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Is Hotaru-Bi a weekly?
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>>136237454
No, it's monthly, but the manga hasn't actually started yet, chapter 0 is just a prologue. Chapter 1 will be released the 25/3
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Umineko is several things

- what actually happened
- what happened, retold by Yasu
- what Ange thought might have happened
- what Battler wanted to happens to absolve him of his own guilt
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>>136236828
Even worse, isn't she Battler's aunt? That's kinda fucked up if you think about it
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>>136237543
I see, thanks.
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>>136237256
He's an eunuch?

Fucking eunuchs.
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>>136237765
Yup, and she's also blood-related to her other two love interests as well. Pretty easy to see why she snapped as bad as she did.

>>136237922
Pretty much.
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>>136237765
No, Beato is Battler's uncle
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>>136230970
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>>136237975
Not only that, she's also the product of double-incest. I feel pretty bad for her.
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>>136235976

That's amazingly agreeable.
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I want Jessica to punch me.
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Is Rosatrice dead?
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>ps3 sprites
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>>136238279
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Between Battler and Beatrice et al, who was the bigger player?
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>>136235976
Personally really liked Eva, Battler and Maria as well. Big Hocchan fan bias there though.
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What was the point of this scene at the beginning of Episode 5? It never really went anywhere
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>>136234541
>>136236333
>The oni from the swamp are real
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>>136238660
>Oni don't exist!!
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>>136238809
>Devil's Proof

Explain those images then.
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>>136238639
I guess it was supposed to remind you how different and cruel Beato used to be compared to the empty shell she became in EP 5?
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>>136238911
But those scenes aren't flashbacks, they're all new, if I remember correctly
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>>136239036
Nope, they're flashbacks. For example, the scene you posted is a flashback to EP 2 when Beatrice tells Kanon she's going to kill Jessica.
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>>136214349
>where did everything go so wrong

When Minami Kotaro stopped possessing Battler
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>>136239095
How would he even pull this off without screwing his whole WTC concept?
Is he just going full crazy with it?
Also waiting for translation because I'm too lazy for moon
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>>136239269
Oh, I must have just forgotten then. Thanks for clearing that up
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>>136237256
Yasu deserved love. ;_;
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>>136239269
>>136238639
You know, if you assume Rosa is Beatrice, it makes this very poignant and threatening that Kanon is being told that Jessica will die.
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>>136238453
Battler sounded really silly when screaming and crying loudly. The scene in the EP5 Tea Party when he wakes up and sees Beato's corpse is supposed to be one of the saddest scenes in the series, but Battler's hilarious sobs get a few chuckles out of me.
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https://youtu.be/XNHpbtIbSwk

Yasu a sad
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>>136240721
I do try 2bh senpai
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Reminder that Rikafag is a real pedophile who hired child prostitutes and a psychopath
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>>136241065
Surprising! I totally didn't realise it was sarcasm! At all!
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>>136240276
He deserved it

>can't use a fucking phone to call Battler
>blame his problems on other people
>murders dozens of innocents including children
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I want to deito Lucifer.
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Can someone tell me how to start with this series? Whether it's anime, manga and VN, for all the three.
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>>136241115
Yasu didn't actually end up killing anyone though. They just wrote detailed scenarios in which they killed everyone, which became the gameboards. In the real world the adults solved the epitaph before they could even start the killings, leading to the scenario in episode 7.
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>>136214349
Posting best Seacat.
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>>136242554
That doesn't help his case
>planned mass murders
>couldn't carry them out himself but caused them by providing the weapons, the gold and the bomb
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>>136237256

who scanlate confession?
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>>136214349
Literally nothing wrong with this, he fell in love with her over time.
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>>136238225
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>>136242155
Start with anime and if you like it then read manga then VN for maximum umineko experiences.
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>>136214349
I agree, those sprites are atrocious.
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>>136241839
I want to force her to suck my cock as her new master she can't disobey. Her pained expression would be delicious.
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>>136241180
>>136241329
>>136241426
>>136241665

You guys are so cute together, but I think Juliette is more like Lambda that Bern.
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>>136242945
It's no worse than Kyrie's journal full of curses for Asumu. It was pretty much just angry fanfiction use to vent their frustrations. Deep down Yasu didn't even want the plan to succeed though, because they didn't want to kill the cousins. That's why they ended up sending the letter challenging everyone to solve the epitaph, in the hopes that someone would stop them.
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>>136214349
>defend
The ending was fucking disappointing.
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>>136220015
It's called meta fiction for a reason anon. You're looking at it from an conventional fiction point of view, and thereby missing the extra layer as to why all that magic gameboard thingy are added to begin with.
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>>136224014
I want Bern to look at me with that face whilst edging me for hours at a time.
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>>136243097
Late reply, but WTDND group did. You should find it on their website.
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>>136243520
Jessica a best.
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>>136245235
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>>136245270
What's that? Maria is suppose to be the only retarded one.
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>>136214349
Somewhere between 1-4 and 5-8, read your own damn picture.
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>>136245407
The anime made everyone retarded, it's not their fault.
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>>136245407
At least when it comes to business, Krauss is quite retarded, too.
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>>136217947
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>>136246070
Bless the person who did all of these.
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>>136232747
>tfw Detroit's satanists actually managed to put a statue of their evil God on a city.

Robocop, where are you?
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>>136226251
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>>136246243
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>>136216500
This is autistic as fuck.
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>>136247146
Welcome to seacats.
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Wait a sec, Umineko is over?
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I just realized,
We are shown the very likely universe where the story we know happens.
We are shown the very unlikely universe where you-know-what doesn't happen and we get Lion.

But we're never shown anything about a universe where baby dies. Which, you know, would be at least very possible.
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>>136248658
How much would this even hurt? I mean, it's not like Kanon has anything down there.
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>>136244808
It's worse because Yasu gathered guns, prepared an actual plan and armed a bomb. That's a crime that could get you sent to jail, epitaph or not
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I want to fuck Lambdadelta!
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>>136249663
Best siblings.
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>>136249776
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>>136249896
Why is Lion so lewd?
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>>136233936
Wait is it from a special episode?
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>>136234819
Why else would they hunt them?
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>>136250080
Cause she's always turned Lion
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Another day, another thread
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>>136250080
more interesting, why doesn't Jessica smack Lion like she did with Battler?
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>>136252724
Established brother autority, or she doesn't hit girls
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>>136241839
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>>136217120
>objectively superior
>plasticy
>generic
>lolifying characters that don't need it and ruining their faces
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>>136244843
Ending was fucking perfect.
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>ctrl f deleted
>more than 100 results

Report these cunts faster next time, faggots
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The series gone down hill after ep 5
Prove me wrong
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>>136238870
It's all in Takano's imagination, or told from the perspective of whoever the territory lord is
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>>136253125
>implying Ryukishi himself don't think his art is fucking terrible
>muh Bern bewbs
>th-th-th-they ruined the funny troll faces so it's shit
>>
OP pic has PS3 sprites because I wasn't going to skip loads of text just to get to the parts I wanted, so I found a LP on a forum with those pics
Also I'm a hardcore mysteryfag and I made that pic but I still enjoyed EPs 5 and 8
You guys need to calm down
>>
Was Maria really supposed to be developmentally disabled? It always seemed that way with her strange habits and stupid as fuck attire (Why would you even wear that crown thing?). Her autism levels were off the charts, especially at the end of Legend of the Golden Witch. Also most 4th graders don't read the Key of Solomon for fun. I imagine that being constantly bitchslapped by your slut of a mom doesn't help. I kind of felt bad for her, it would have worked out better if she had actually become religious instead of believing in witches and shit.
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>>136254220
Good argument

Ruining their faces and lolifying characters makes a character totally different from the way they are supposed to be and look. Anyone who's fine with that just plain doesn't care about the fiction they're consuming and the characters and plot that have been established. A character design, as designed by the original creative team/creator defines the character. That's like taking Spongebob and making him humanoid. The plasticy and generic art style with chins as sharp as that katana and skeleton thin arms look stupid and again, turn a set of characters into something that they're not - namely the forced "anime" style trend of the 2010s. Ryukishi's Umineko art does not look as nearly as bad as you all make it out to.

Let me guess, you're just going to post more memes.
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>>136254220
>>implying Ryukishi himself don't think his art is fucking terrible
Not that anon, just posting something related.
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>>136254561
Yep. Being Maria was suffering.
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>>136254593
>what is artistic interpretation
>I can't care about the fiction I'm consuming if I prefer it in a specific art style or different look
I bet you was one of the ebin posters giving J.K. Rowling a hard time because she didn't care about black Hermione.
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>>136254561
The point is that neglected, somewhat intelligent children with no friends or family will create their own dream worlds to cope with reality and interpret the world in a twisted fashion, reprioritizing the things they care about to be chipper in the eyes of despair, slowly reprogramming themselves in autismlord 9000. Imaginary friends etc. etc. are fallout from wanting companionship and having a grand imagination, but finding none.
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>>136254929
>ebin

You're doing it again, faggot
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>>136255007
My point still stands. You sound like the people complaining about the black version of The Wizard of Oz. Point is, I can still enjoy, understand, and care about a work even if I like art that isn't 100% accurate with the author's original vision.
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>>136255002
That's a good way to put it
She is like most of the people on Deviantart who make up their own fantasy worlds to keep themselves happy, while acknowledging those of others
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Is Higurashi as good as Umineko? I liked Umineko a lot, but I haven't gotten around to reading Higurashi yet. Is it worth it?
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>>136256196
Some say it's better, some don't. But it's worth it nonetheless. Read it and form your own opinion.
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>>136256196
Both are good shit. Umineko is considered to be the better out of the two, but Higurashi is definitely a fun read. Being Keeichi is suffering.
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>>136256196
Higurashi 4-8 = Umineko 1-4 > Higurashi 1-4 > Umineko 4-8
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>>136256196
Higurashi retained some semblance of logic when writing the story. Umineko was r07's attempt to put 8 non-sequiturs together.
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>>136215649
Don't forget Battler wanted Beato since day one too.

Seriously go back and look at EP1 Tea Party for a second Beatrice is on screen for all of a minute before they start flirting.
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>>136256489
From what I understood, in order to validate your imagination, to say that it is really there, you need to have someone else who will claim that what you are imagining is real too. It is kind of like what Battler said at the beggining of Dawn of the Golden Witch, you can speak to your imaginary friend with a great deal of predictability, or you can interact with someone else, who is not entirely predictable. You need a real person to help make these things that are not real, real.
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>>136256536
This romance is terrible though. They have nothing in common.
YasuxBattler is good shit, for the time it went on, because they actually share a bond people could empathize with. Battler and Beatrice play magical cluedo where Beatrice murder real people and there's some half-assed argument about Battler liking big-breasted blondes. That's literally it.
Even JessicaxKanon was better
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>>136256489
> 'it takes two to create a universe' thing.

It takes two people to tell a story.

One to tell it, and one to hear it.

Or, to get more cynical, it takes two people to make a lie.
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>>136257147
>One to tell it, and one to hear it.
Oh, that makes much more sense.
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>>136256713
You don't need things to have things in common for romance and love to develop. Interactions between sexes are inherently sexual most of the time and it's no different between Battler and Beatrice. Battler hated her but like all hatred, it cannot last forever and Battler came to like her attitude. Whether it's good romance is something I'm not sure. I particularly like the romance of every other character though.
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>>136257394
>Interactions between sexes are inherently sexual most of the time
But then it doesn't make for a good story. I don't have reason to care about their couple, so why should I?
Battler going full meta was the worst thing to happen to Umineko
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>>136256713
Dude...BeatoxBattler is YasuxBattler, Beato is just Chuuni shit version of her.
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>>136257719
But Battler didn't know that. He still fell in love with Beato despite her murdering his whole family
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>>136258029
...Nope? Didn't all that happen in EP 5 Tea Party when he finally realized the truth and what promise he had broken to her was? I mean, he DID carry Beato in the game in EP 5 but that was just Bern's piece, not actually Battler. Pretty sure all the feelings of love only came after he realized everything.
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>>136258145
This part in Episode 5 is right before Battler realizes who she is, so it seems they were in love before that
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>>136257719
She's a chuunishit version of her as you said
And YasuxBattler is a thing of the past, Battler moved on. BeatoxBattler is a fictional circlejerk of what could've been a nice couple, I can't root for it
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>>136258356
She's his ideal woman so of course he's attract to her but he fall in love with her after he calm his shit down and notice of her way of thinking(she's fucking twist).

>>136258467
Well, I'm with you on that point.
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>seacats are now 1/3rd shitposting.
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>>136259683
Who are you quoting?
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>>136259683
There is hardly anything to discuss. Until Hotaru Bi gets steady scanlations and someone translates The First and Last gift, the series is going to be kind of dead.
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>>136259770
No excuse for shitposting. If there's nothing to discuss, don't fucking post. It's these kinds of people that keep shitty generals alive just for the sake of keeping them alive.
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>>136218067
My view is that Ange was autistic (also had very heavy emotional issues) and trying to explain anything by "magic" is simply autistic characters pretending that their own fanfiction should be put into place instead of actual facts.

That's literally all there is to it.
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>>136260131
>implying there wasn't anyone in Umineko who wasn't autistic
Someone post that AUTISM image.
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>>136260131
Why is this even up for debate? Magic is an allegory for youthful optimism, hope, love, and acceptance. The meta world is not real.
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>Can't decide which of my cousins/nephews I want to fuck
>Kills my entire family in anguish

Amazing plot.
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>>136260323
>Magic is an allegory for youthful optimism, hope, love, and acceptance.

But mostly just autism. You can't pretend otherwise, I sat through all eight episodes of this shit.
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so if magic and the meta world aren't real then does that mean Bern and Lambda aren't real either? pls no.
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>>136260353
Yasu's motives were actually pretty good, I mean, the whole flashback and explanation was well done and you could see how he slowly destructed himself with his fantasies

What's shitty is how they try to force the "Magic is great, don't you dare question our claims and feelings you fucking goat!!!" perspective in your throat
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>>136260418
Bern and Lambda are real
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>>136260444
>he
>his
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>>136260530
>Not reading the story
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>>136260323
Magic is whatever the fuck you want it to be. You're very optimistic about it. Magic in an allegory for delusions, denial of reality, and imagining things that aren't real. Everything you've listed can be seen as naive ignorance. Youthful optimism is foolish and shortsighted, hope only creates further suffering until you accept there is no hope, love is an illusion on both sides until one side breaks that illusion and you only accept things that confirm to your world view, rather than because they are logical.
Magic is shit, fuck magic.
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>>136260530
I will check my privilege, thanks for reminding me
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>>136260556
Not the point, but thanks for being a fedora master
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>>136260512
Bern is a cat, Lambda is just some other dyke. Even for them, magic isn't real.
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>>136260556
>that Erika
Shit, I really need to read the manga but I can't imagine Umineko without the music.
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I think it's a shame that R07 didn't do anything in the style of the first Episode. I enjoyed the killer atmosphere.
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>>136260530
You'll grow out of it eventually Tumblranon
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>>136214349
why didnt we get to see battler eat the cow tits sandwich?
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>>136260418
Up to your interpretation, mine's like this anon>>136218067, I don't really like the manga version, it kinda ruin this point of story.
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The main idea of Umineko happens roughly in every thread on /x/.
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>>136218067
>implying magic didnt cause it

Lambadelta is a nephandi.
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>>136260725
>Up to your interpretation

Every time someone says something like this in regards to a piece of fiction, I want to punch them in the face. There is always an objective answer to an aspect of a story that the author takes into consideration when writing it. Period.
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>>136260556
On a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you want to go down on Erika in this scene?
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>>136260604
no you're wrong fagaurd
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Last night I dreamt about hugging Lambdadelta, she was pretty flustered and dropped the cynical act

Fuck, I never dream anime and now I want to hug Lambda
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>>136260783
It's not my problem, and keep your autism with yourself you faggot.
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>>136260418
The Umineko meta within the story does not exist, but the meta outside of Umineko is real. Lambda and Bernkastel cannot interact with the Umineko story but they merge themselves with aspects and groups of the story to have some relevance. This is why Lamda represents the game setting up to Umineko, because she sets up the board and makes it a certainty that all the family members get on the island.
Bernkastel is limited but she represents the mystery fans on the internet who want to find out the truth. This is shown when she pulls the goat mask off her head and when she says to you 'I am on your side no matter what', because the reader is also looking for the truth.
And Beatrice represents all the Beatrice collective in the entirety of the story and represents the rules of Umineko.
Each of the witches all represent concept, literary concept events if one were to take it that far. And Erika is a marry sue, created by the mystery fans in ep 5 to solve the game. This is why Bernkastel puts her own piece, her own self insert, into the game. She's less of a concept and more of a piece. Also, Erika in an Internet Rika. An E-Rika if you will.

However, despite this, witches still have influence outside of the literary world, they can just jump into a book for fun, and twist kakera and the world to suit their pleasures. This makes the meta both real and not real.

>>136260591
That's obviously the point. Everything optimistic can be seen in a pessimistic light.

>>136260825
10. Making her say that she loves me after saying that she thinks love doesn't exist sounds very thrilling.
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>>136260933
Well I dreamed I WAS Lambdadelta a while back. Not to mention that one time I dreamed I was drinking tea with the Voyagers.
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>>136260933
Ruthless to gentle-cute is a nice transition
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DELETE THIS
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>>136261008
>The Umineko meta within the story does not exist, but the meta outside of Umineko is real.

Ah, thanks for the clear up.
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>>136260825
My desire to go down on FErika at any point is equivalent of the force of a big bang.
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>>136261231
Shit's complicated yo.
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So do you guys think Kinzo actually was a fun grandpa, or was Battler just making it up?
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Did Higanbana ever become worth reading?

How about Rose Gun Days?
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>>136261394
I doubt it. He probably didn't hate his family, but spent too much time wallowing in pity until he finally found peace.
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>>136261284
Imagine her sitting down, her soft hose clenching your cheeks, one leg down and the other propped over your shoulder, as she lets out submissive grunts while running her hand through your hair, her face blushed red all over while you eat her out through a hole in her hose at her crotch.
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>>136261394
He was probably a self-centered asshole
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>>136261548
...! He's just like me!
Could it be that I'm secretly Kinzo?!
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>>136261404
Higanbana First Night is very good, depressing and dark, involving bullying, suicide, murder, child neglect, yukkai doing evil shit like eating kids, and other shit. It also has one of Ryukishi's best twist in the Actress Girl story. Second Night is a bit too light but has good stories. It's worth reading, it's short stories that can be either optimistic or dark.

Rose Guns Days is a mix between Moulin Rouge, Baccano with Spike from Bebop as the main protagonist. It starts off rather slow, making you think that it's meh until the first mini boss is defeated and the first real boss shows up. Rose Guns Days is absolutely worth reading for the villains, they're all 10/10 perfect. They're all unique, assholes, you get to see them fuck the cast. Season 3 of RGD is arguably one of the best Ryukishi ever wrote, it's up there with ep 6 of Higurashi and ep 5 of Umineko. The problem with RGD is that since it's more action oriented, you don't get a feel for a lot of the characters until they're somewhat given the spotlight for a few seconds and the ending is VERY rushed because Ryukishi was sick. I'd personally recommend dropping Last Season one you get to the middle part but meh.

Also RGD is insanely unnnationalistic, despite nips being the underdogs. China is somehow refreshinly not just assholes like basically all nip propaganda stories, but they're arguably the best characters in the story, which is fun.

So yeah, tl;dr RGD and Higanbana are worth reading. Higanbana is worth it for the bullying and RGD for the villains.
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>>136261481
>>136261548
I want to believe!
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>>136261678
We're all Kinzo!
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>>136261523
Shit. This boner is pretty potent. Take responsibility
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>>136261946
Why would anyone be as self-centered as Kinzo?
I mean, Beatrice is hot and stuff but people are interesting and all like different stuff, learn about their hobby or get one
start programming, get /fit/, buy fancy clothes or learn new recipes

chess is shit come on
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>>136262140
I never understood why Rika is crying in the bottom one.
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>>136262184
>THIS TIME THINGS ARE GONNA WORK OUT I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY
>nice try gurl
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>>136262184
>Hanyuu stomping around
2cute
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>>136262140
8 SCOOPS CMON
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>>136262216
She looks like a crying cow
>m-moooo boo hoo hoo

>>136262297
The anime made it too cute. The manga made it seem like she was slamming her feet with all her might and barely was able to make a sound.
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>>136260556
>>136260825
>>136261523
God damn it, anons. If only the scanned doujins for this series wasn't so shit tier.
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>>136262140
Why wouldn't anyone be as self-centered as Kinzo? He likely represents the epitome of what one can achieve in life. He was rich, had time for hobbies, had a trophy wife and found the love of his life, chained to his bedside in another house.

He's the character who probably came the closest to defeating nihilism until love consumed him. I also like the notion of loving being the light in the darkness when he had everything in the world.
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>>136262129
After her orgasm, which you detect when she tightens her grip on your hair and trembles a bit, you withdraw your head from her warm pussy and quickly give her a kiss, your lips still wet with her juices. She gasps and tries (failing) to escape your tight embrace. When you pull back, there's a trail of saliva mixed with juices between the two of you. She is visibly embarrassed.
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>>136261394
Well, if you are to believe the whole "pieces only act in a way the original person could act" thing Bern (I think? Might've been Lambda) said, then yes, at least he could've been, if not for all the mental fuckery and incest.
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Can someone explain to me the entire VN using one sentence only.
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>>136262516
He literally spent his time yelling at people and doing nothing significant, trying to achieve something he could never and that was not productive in the slightest

He learned nothing but bogus in his magic books, he was frustrated with life, didn't get to know his sons or his grandsons and unjustly labelled them instead, he didn't get anyone to love him, his only "friend" was literally his doctor and people wouldn't give a shit about him if it wasn't for his money

His family didnt want to see him more than once a year and his marriage was shit anyway, the only woman he loved was cheating and he tried to rape his daughter

The only reason he didn't die poor, alone and miserably from a liver cancer were his good genetics and his luck, that's literally it

tl;dr : Kinzo is like davido-kun except no one cares enough to go mock him
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>>136262714
Best story ever told.
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>>136262714
Everyone dies and nothing else matters in the long run.
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Beato is mai waifu, donut steel.
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>>136262714
Insane tranny gets butthurt about childhood boyfriend, goes full Deviantart OC and bombs the fuck out of everyone
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>>136262714
No one is truly evil except for Bernkastel. Fucking Bernkastel.
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>>136262714
Adults are shitty greedy faggots and children are pure
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>>136262714
Anit-Fantasy team Phoenix Wright vs. Fantasy team evil witch vs. Mystery team insane detective girl.
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>>136262714
Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.
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>>136262810
Hello Tohya
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>>136262726
He got rich, that counts for something. He was still accurate by how he labeled his family members though.

>the only woman he loved was cheating
Beatrice cheated him? I don't remember that.

>>136262828
This, fuck Bernkastel.

>>136262872
Best answer.
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>>136262714
Erika best girl.
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>>136262714
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE doesn't exist
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>>136262886
>He got rich, that counts for something
Money is just a tool. If you don't use it to become happier, more accomplished or do productive things then you're not living better than a poorfag

>He was still accurate by how he labeled his family members though.
Nope, some of them were ok guys and could've taught him a thing or two just by spending time together

>Beatrice cheated him? I don't remember that.

I meant that the only woman he loved was a product of cheating since he was married to another woman
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So when is Yen Press going to finish the entire translation for the entire manga? I think they are on the third volume of ep 5, jesus christ they are so slow.
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>>136262726
There was a pretty interesting scene in episode 7 I think it was. Kinzo had explained his backstory previously, talking over a long period of time about how he met the golden witch, how the Italians and the Japanese soliders attacked each other over the gold and he and Beato were left alive by luck.
But then at the end there is a quick sequence of events that flash where it shows Kinzo pitting everyone against each other himself, making him out to be the bad guy who stole the gold and the girl.

It made me really question Kinzo and I still don't know what to believe. And that in itself really has no bearing on whether he was a good grandfather or not.
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>>136263047
The manga was finished about half a year ago, so it isn't really that wierd that they are a bit behind
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>>136263251
They release 2-3 volumes per year if I remember correctly, that would take them 4 more years to finish the translations.
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>>136230639
We never got a follow up to this. So it was fake, right?
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>>136263211
>But then at the end there is a quick sequence of events that flash where it shows Kinzo pitting everyone against each other himself
I think that part was exanded on in the manga. Basically he made them fight each other so he could take all the gold
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Bernkastel did nothing wrong
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>>136263430
The only source was 4chan. Of course it was fake.
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>>136260825
She is my ultimate waifu, so 11 and beyond.

>>136262385
At least Episode 6 has the best quality and gave us lots of cute Erika illustrations.
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>>136263530
That's actually true. Everything she did was unconsequential, something Yasu or Kyrie can't claim. She just moved around a few pieces and hosted a tea party when she got bored
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>>136226251
Well, atheism is a purely western religion. Why would Japan give a fuck about it?
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>>136226251
>atheists claim to use reason and logic
>image macro with logical fallacy
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>>136263657
Except I was talking about Bernkastel, not Bernkastel.
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>>136263554
it was from a japanese twitter and 2chan, then 4chan spread this
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>>136222126
>I don't know how to read.
>Being this faggot.
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>>136263211
>>136263435
It's never really confirmed, but it's hinted at in this part from Episode 8.
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>>136263846
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>>136264062
Didnt you guys read the vn? It was his captain that did it.
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>>136264549
Yes, but in Episode 7 of the VN and Episode 8 of the manga it's hinted that Kinzo made them fight each other, so he could take all the gold after they were dead
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>>136264549
You missed what was being talked about.
In the VN Kinzo describes the captain pitting one side against another.
But then that's contradicted by another possibility being shown later that episode where Kinzo did it.
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>>136214349
>playing Umineko
>Love the first episode because it's interesting and filled with both suspense and mystery
>hate the second because it's boring as fuck, cliched, and stupid
>the third is okay but it's getting tiresome and I just find the attempts at gore and edge to be really hamfisted

Is it worth it to keep going?
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>>136264912
>fun childhood, many friends
>grow up
>life's pretty bland, slaving for a company
>find no enjoyment

Should I keep going?
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>>136264912
>boring cliched stupid tiresome
Explain? That doesn't mean anything. Have you read Higurashi?
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>>136264805
>>136264677
I bet it's just one of those 'if you look too hard for the truth it gets ugly' moments to hint at what's coming with Ange in 8. I don't want to believe Kinzo orchestrated GRAAANAAADAAA JAPANESE VS ITALIANS
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>>136265171
George and that girl's date at the start was boring, it's like "okay I get it they're in love I figured that out already"
Jessica and furniture-man's whole ordeal was as cliche as it gets with the jaded loner watching some excitable girl having fun, and the "I'm not furniture!" thing at the end. Stories like that are a dime a dozen
Thirdly it got stupid with the whole minotaur sword battle.

I could forgive it on it's own but the whole time felt like I was just wasting time trying to get back to the actual plot.
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>>136265357
>>136264062

Well, it IS Yasu's perspective and bear in mind Yasu hated Kinzo a ton (understandably so, but nonetheless,) so it isn't impossible she just had a biased view and thought of the worst possible scenario.
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>>136265375
Okay, stay believe me on this.
You didn't like the romance, that's fine. That's a HUGE plot point. I can understand why the romance would seem ham-fisted to you, but it gets much deeper as you go on. Minor spoilers for Ep 6, that episode kicks off all about romance. And Erika, a character who you'll probably love, gets absolutely sick of it, questioning why it's such a focal point in the story. But there's a reason for that.
>I'm not furniture
I don't want to spoil too much, but yeah. It's a phrase that means something other than what you think it does.

The minatour sword battle turned me off as well when I saw it. Like, what is this dumb Type Moon fight going on. But if you go back to that wizard battle between Virgillia and Beatarice, you'll see that the magic battles are designed to TRICK you. Don't take the narration at face value. That fight may or may not have happened, you can deny it from Battler's point of view because Battler didn't actually see it happen.

If it feels like it keeps leaving the main plot, don't fall for the tricks. Everything, even the romance has significance.

Anyways if you don't like it after episode 5, I'd suggest dropping it. But at least go back to WTC 1 and read Higurashi. You might like that.
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>>136265894
I appreciate the feedback, thanks, I'll keep going with it then

Never read Higurashi though, how does that compare?
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>>136262714
Everyone dies and even who doesn't is still dead inside
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>>136265375
It's the episode that provides most of what you need for figuring out the culprit. Make sure to just bear with it and remember that literally everything in Umineko is there for a reason.
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Do anons prefer the textbox or how it was in the question arcs?
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>>136266275
I prefer the the classic VN text over the images. Made it feel more like a book, and the stuff they did with the fonts and text spacing was more fun-looking.
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>>136266037
Higurashi is a horror/mystery like Umineko. But for Umineko the point of the story is sort of making characters debate points, logic, and questioning what you believe. It's a novel very centered around thinking things through, dressed with dark humor.

Higurashi is a more emotional story. Every episode starts off as a rural slice of life, and every episode has a trigger point where everything suddenly goes to hell. But you don't know what or how it happens.
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>>136266275
I've always disliked the Textbox thing.

It seems less immersive to me.
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I don't think I can read any more of this. I'm at part 6 and my patience is wearing thin.

I had no problem with Higurashi resetting 8 times and killing people 8 times over, but I just cannot put up with it anymore in Umineko. I definitely feel like there are too many people and too many parallel and meta versions of them. When they die I just don't give a shit.

I also feel like a lot of sub plots or reveals either don't make sense or don't change things in any significant way. The whole VN feels like Higurashi if the writer were 10x sloppier or were intentionally trying to make things opaque to spite the reader.
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>>136266558
>I also feel like a lot of sub plots or reveals either don't make sense or don't change things in any significant way.

They will later on. Anyway, just drop it if you don't like it. It's not for everyone.
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>>136266558
>trying to make things opaque to spite the reader
Bing bing bing
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What happened? Since when Seacat's sprites are not shit?
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>>136266558
There's no point in reading it if you don't like it. You should probably just drop it
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>>136266558
>When they die I just don't give a shit.
I don't think you're supposed to give a shit about gameboard deaths. I know I didn't.
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>>136266775
Since 2010 when it was released on the PS3
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Why do we never get to see battler eat the cowtits sandwich
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>>136266834
Yeah, I'm pretty sure desensitization was the point. Which is interesting because in most stories the more you learn about a character the more you sympathize with them. It's the effect of becoming a witch.
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>>136266903
Because the titties aren't real
Neither is the sandwich
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>>136265894
I feel like I am one of the few people who liked the crazy fight scenes, even if I generally feel like chuuni shit is pointless. The way that Kanon said that he could never triumph over Beatrice, just shatter her reflection, was a real clue despite being drowned in the I'M NOT HUMAN thing which certainly was cliche, until the real meaning of that became clearer.
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>>136266886

Shit. Just realized that the anime was 6 years ago.
How the time flies.
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>>136267068
I liked the fights where they debated while they fought.
Like when Battler jumps out the window and Dlanor fights him about how he'll land safely while in midair.
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>>136267146
Higurashi's first anime was 10 years ago. Makes me feel old
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>>136266903
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>>136267200
Dlanor's fights are teh best.
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>>136267264
>Pads
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>>136267374
>In episode 1 when dumbass Battler's trying to grope Shannon in front of Georgie and it's got more significance than you could ever imagine.
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>>136267374
well then:
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>>136267264
i want to see him slice them off and eat them.
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>>136267885
Beelzebub plz.

Also, why should he eat pads?
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>>136262886
Bernkastel did nothing wrong.
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>>136268116
those aren't pads
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>>136268448
Yes they are
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>>136266649
>>136266779
I wanted to continue because parts of the story did intrigue me and I liked Higurashi a lot. Beato is also a fun character and her rival relationship with Battler was very entertaining. I might give it one more try and decide from there.
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>>136268628
You should probably get out of this thread then, it's full of spoilers
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>>136260250
There. Are you happy now, dear?
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>>136268526
too delicious to be pads
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>>136269120
Why don't we just make believe anon?
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>>136268928
>dear

Roleplayer detected, fuck off
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>>136269262
Or what~?
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Say what you will about the ending, but this song is fucking fantastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFyzTtKNzYI
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>>136269183
oh yea we can play make believe if you know what i mean.

i put on my witch robe and hat.
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>>136262828
One sentence only, faggot.
>>136262886
>fuck Bernkastel.
Best girl.
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>>136269622
Change the dot into a comma then, gee.
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>>136262714
Autism and delusions, I suppose.
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>>136269769
You can't change the past, faggot.
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>>136214349
umineko best thing ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWDpCAt2LGI
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>>136269622
This was my favorite Bernkastel scene
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>>136260640
Stop being an indecisive child and just do it, dummy.
>>136260672
Disgusting...
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>>136269902
It's too bad that song was only used like once or twice, it's really good.
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>>136260825
0.
>>136261370
Not really.
>>136269944
You're cute.
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>>136256333
ginger enculé
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>>136270572
>LSDC trash invading a perfectly good thread
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>>136270126
Thanks anon, I've been looking for a rope like that for a while
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Oh, okay. Now that I read all the post I know that I didn't lose anything important. The typical monotone and boring bullshit, the same people, the same discussion, the same annoying waifushit.
>>136270572
Pfff
>>136270657
>Berserk
And what are you doing in here?
>>136270686
I'm glad you liked it, anon.
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>>136270856
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>>136270856
Has there ever been anything important in an Umineko thread on /a/?
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never forget
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>>136271009
No, but the new anon was nice though. The only interesting thing so far.
>>136271073
Huh?
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>>136271100
the day we got memed
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>>136271073
fuck off
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>>136271100
>new anon
How exactly do you know who are new?
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>>136271232
ok i'll just go read tea party 7 again and cut myself on it

ryukishi is a very aigry person
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>>136271291
I know everything...
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>>136271346
We're going to kill the thread...
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>>136271683
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Reminder that R07's "Official explanation" is him fucking with us and getting those who would give up thinking to give up thinking. Not only is the Shkannon theory unlikely, but it is actually impossible. The true culprit is actually Rosa, and I've dictated the full explanation in a series of YouTube videos.
Here's the first: https://youtu.be/JHMta4YbjSM
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>>136271798
Please consider suicide
This meme really should have died as soon as the manga was completed
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>>136271798
>denial
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>>136271383
>You know nothing, Jon Snow.

I greentexted it because I was serious.
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>>136271792
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>>136272028
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>>136272074
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>>136272028
>>136272074
>>136272279
>>136272426
Fuck off
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>>136272426
What the fuck is going on here?
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>>136272426
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>>136272497
>>>/r/eddit
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>>136272752
jpp
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>>136272824
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>>136272910
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I don't understand this thread
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>>136272992
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Hey faggots, use the fucking report button
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>>136273088
already did ten minutes ago
thread was about to die anyway though.
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>>136273119
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>>136273196
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Wow, you actually made the thread hit the bumb limit, you faggot. RIP, it's been fun
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>>136273245
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>>136273034
Hehehe~
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If you want to understand you need to watch this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9kLLs1Jq-A
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>>136273422
What the fuck was that?
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>>136273488
it's the real culprit
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>>136273633
And this is why I don't like black people. They're nothing but demons made of coal.
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>>136273872
Just kidding~ I have a few friends that are black. Nice people.
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>>136263646
Wait, which arc is this from?
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>>136273965
That anon said it was EP6 in the same post dumbass.
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>>136273965
Ep 6. I'm pretty sure.
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>>136273965
>>136274004
>>136274081
Yup, it's from chapter 20 of Episode 6
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>>136274162
Hah! I knew it.
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>>136274162
Thanks anon.
>>
Come on!!! DIE!!!
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I can't believe this thread is still here
>tfw I've been in here since it started
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>>136274584
If the janitor starts doing his fucking job, we'll be back under bump limit
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>>136274618
Yes, he is very incompetent, huh? hehe~
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>>136274618
Probably won't happen in time, it's on page 9 already
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>>136274723
It's time to let this thread go, anon. Just let it go.
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>>136274709
Why is Rika so cute?
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>>136274811
it's all poutch's fault
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>>136274860
Who?
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>>136274832
Yes~ she's the cutest child. My daughteru.
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>>136274811
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>>136274915
I heard he's the only one who managed to solve the epitaph before the solution was revealed, but I don't know much more than that
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>>136274987
Yes, more tears please. More.
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>>136274992
PURE LUCK. He was just lucky!
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>>136274992
Damn, you'd need some next level autism to be able to do that
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>>136275065
>>136275129
actually this motherfucker used the wikia to make it look like he figured it out alone
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>>136275129
I wonder how pathetic someone has to be for that. Even that idiot limp dick can't be this miserable and sad.
>>136275212
Oh, makes sense.
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>>136275212
But how could he be the first one if it was already on the wiki?
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>>136275295
A mystery inside another mystery...
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>>136275295
just remember that poutch is an asshole and that the patch sprites are always better
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>>136275438
>just remember that poutch is an asshole
Understood.
>and that the patch sprites are always better
Duh.
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>>136275438
The original Higurashi sprites are so fucking ugly. I mean, the original sprites from Umineko are also bad, but not nearly as bad as these
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>>136275026
UUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>136275908
Yes.... Yes... Hehe... Nypah~
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>>136276010
Were you too lazy to even find a different picture?
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>>136276147
What did you say?
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