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>[gg] Macross Delta (Preview Special) - 01 [E4E85FC6].mkv

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>[gg] Macross Delta (Preview Special) - 01 [E4E85FC6].mkv

What a time to be alive.
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>>135518432
>gg
Am I imagining things?
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>>135518568
>P.S. We won’t be doing the full series because lol fuck that. Just watch the simulcasts.

Fansubbing still dead as ever.
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>>135518432
>gg
What
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>>135518432
>[gg]
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>>135518432
>gg
Retards still watch their subs?
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Aw shit already getting our first 2016 animes.
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>gg
Holy shit a zombie
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>>135518704
jaka subbed this preview because, of course he's not going to sub the show when his bots rip the simulcast.
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>>135518704
It is obsolete
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>Koda reviving gg
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Friendly reminder that there are people on /a/ right now who gg is.
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>>135518704
wew
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>gg
Kings who turned into mere jesters.

How sad.
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>>135518432
Illegal fansubs must be stopped. Now pay for our stream please!
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>>135520401
Fansubbing will never be obsolete.
There will be times when license holders can such cannot provide. It will be up to the community to provide for themselves.

This Macross preview is a great example. Who the heck would officially release 89% of an episode? But, aren't we all glad that gg did?
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>>135520924
It ain't koda buv.
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KODA
U WANT FREE STUF?
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>watching AKB0048 Delta
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>>135521137
macross delta won't be licensed, plus was the last series to get an official english release, if no one does the fan subs there will be none
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>no more trollsubs
I miss them
At least we still have [RepublicanSubs]
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>>135518432
Did they do the songs?
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>>135521345

Harmony Gold will license it.

Expect Robotech: Delta Squad in 2017
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>>135521291
Sounds good to me
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>>135521416
starring b-list american singers
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i love gg... welcome back..!!!
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>>135521530
What's it like to be playing both sides, Jaka?
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>>135521530
fart
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>>135521391
yes
[gg] is a top tier fansub group, afterall
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>>135518704
Why do people think this is getting simulcast?
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>>135521957
fuck
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>gg
What.
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>intentionally styled to look like horriblesubs
Thanks, gg!
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>>135518432
>gg
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>>135522767
I thought it was styled to look like the old Frontier subs but probably that yeah
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>see this
>take nostalgia trip through the wasteland of old Macross subgroups
>mfw Central Anime still exists and does shit occasionally
Holy shit.
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>>135524520
They're in my hometown, been thinking about stopping by and saying hi for a few years now.

On the forums it says they apparently had weekly anime watching meetups for years that were open to anyone who wanted to come. Too shy to ask if they're still going.
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>>135522156
Jaka pls
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What?!
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>Have fun and enjoy the show. Hopefully this means our final released show isn’t that shitty Tokyo Ravens show.
Fuck you too [gg]
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>>135518432
>gg
I'm 12 and what is this?
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>>135528806
Its funny because Tokyo Ravens is still their final show. Subbing one Delta episode doesnt count for the whole show.
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>>135528862
Well they said show not whole show.
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Why do so many anime start with boring as fuck exposition? Why do nips not understand basic story telling?
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>>135528987
What, is basic storytelling starting with the "hook" or whatever? I prefer getting the exposition over with, honestly.
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>>135528987
Because of morons like >>135460067
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>>135528987
One; in media res isn't the only story telling technique. Two; would you prefer new viewers be dumped in the deep end of a well established universe?
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>>135528987
Better than starting the show confused as to what in the hell is going on.
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>>135528987
Because when they don't, idiots start complaining about how nothing make sense.

>Why do nips not understand basic story telling
Hollywood pull the same shit as well. Don't go blaming the producers when it's the consumers who are being retarded.
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>Macross
>simulcasr
There's a shit company who sues everyone who would try because they think they have the rights to Macross
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>>135528987
Because is important to know why weird veined persons are out there causing havoc, and why a combined idol/Valkyrie squadron has to fight them. Considering it is a new anime and all that.

Basic storytelling has nothing to do with leaving the audience in the dark, as you may believe.
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>>135529167
>>135529181
It's called creating mystery. If you legitimately couldn't understand what was going on without that explanation then you might be clinically retarded.
Secondly, simply having a narrator state what something is over some pictures is without a doubt the laziest possible way of explaining something. Some subtlety, or a specific situation involving the characters that shows what it is about would be far more effective. Which is what they do in the show later on anyway, making it literally pointless and a waste of time.
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http://a.pomf.cat/zjyasn.webm
audio version
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>>135529387
Have fun with your rules about what is good, I guess.
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>>135529504
Stick to AZ faggot
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>>135529565
Reco is shit.
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>>135529565
>>135529620
Both are terrible
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>first few hours of 2016

>gg revives itself with god tier taste in animu

anime is saved thank you based gg
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>>135518432
>[gg]
Seriously?
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Whats Macross,whats GG
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>>135529807

Shoo

It's past your bedtime, let the adults talk
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Tokyo Ravens wasn't shit though
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>>135529919
Stop being american mate,its disgusting
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>>135518432
isn't GG like, the duwang of english releases?
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>>135529996

duwang wishes it was half as good as the worst gg release
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>>135529974

>Australia
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>>135529937
Mah nigga
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>>135518432
>gg
>Penguindrum
>that fucking pear
This July marks 5 years.

Jesus. Christ.
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>>135518432
>[gg]
Whats next? Raze coming back from the dead and reviving UTW?
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0 macronized meltrandi.
0 reason to watch this shit.
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>>135530203

utw is ded. Unless if grand order gets an anime in the next 2 years, they aren't coming back.
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>>135530203
Triad finishing Kaiji S2
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>>135530203
Eclipse coming back from the dead to finally save fansubbing
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So that's why all fansub groups disappeared? Crunchyroll?
Sorry, I left /a/ and animu on 2010 due to some personal problems and it's kinda hard to wrap my head around it.
The archive being incomplete doesn't help.
What about slowsub groups that offered higher quality translations?
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>gg
No thanks, even funi is better.
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>>135530399
>Sorry, I left /a/ and animu on 2010 due to some personal problems and it's kinda hard to wrap my head around it.

what a bad time to leave /a/. the death of fansubbers started around this period.

everyone based horrible's rips at first because it was horrendous and the scripts were just plain bad.

over time though, seems that crunchy struck a deal and now sometimes their raws are better than the TV broadcasts.

combine that with people picking speed over quality, fansubbers now just rip crunchy scripts and make minor edits.
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>>135530399

Crunchyroll ruined everything forever, basically.
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>>135530399
>Onee-chan
>Sissy!
It's like people who pride themselves in being quality translators never heard the word connotation.
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>>135530399
Some slow subbers will do the BD releases but otherwise it's all pretty dead.
Objectively, crunchyroll is decent quality (nowadays anyway) and decent speed, but it's just not the same without the drama, and having the choice of who to watch.
Plus karaoke is dead.
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>>135530399
It's pretty dead. There are still a bunch of smaller and some ancient groups (e.g. Live-Evil) around. The BD and DVD groups are still around. A group will pick up a series but they more often than not drop it a few episodes in or take more than a year to finish it. At this point, it's looks as if the future is CR and maybe Netflix. Also, if the TPP passes, it's all over and that's not even considering what will happen after Akiba is bulldozed for the Olympics. I suggest hoarding anything now if you haven't already.
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>>135530566
YOUJOU DOESN'T TRANSLATE TO LOLI FUCK YOU DAIZ
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>GG is shit le meme
Name on thing with pictures which GG fucked up
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>>135530600
>Plus karaoke is dead.
Woah.
Well, at least you guys are still here.
Hopefully the archive finishes transferring data soon so I can start catching up.
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>[gg]
HEAVENS BE PRAISED

I honestly wish they'd troll sub the whole series, it would probably be the only way to save it from Kawamori's writing
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>>135530776
I think I saw someone called CReep or something that subbed the first episodes of some anime with karaoke occasionally but I don't know who they are.
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>>135530776
>you guys are still here
No, they aren't. The people you knew are gone. There's only reddit, MAL and tumblr pretending to be anons here.
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>>135530828
CReep are just crunchy rips. Not sure about karaoke, but none of the ones I've downloaded from them had it. Could've been added later, or sometimes crunchy do add a translation themselves.
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>>135530930
I've only seen them do the first episode and then none after. I guess CR did the karaoke.
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>>135530776
>at least you guys are still here
Some of us are, but things really went to shit around 2013 or whenever it was that Naruto got allowed on /a/ and a horrible truckload of kids and mexicans started clogging things up.
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>>135531031
>whenever it was that Naruto got allowed on /a/

it was moot's interventionism. fuck, i don't want to remember the week-long shitstorm that happened after that.
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Are they featuring space ISIS ?
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>>135530500
Some of them got recruited to CR too
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>mfw when I was checking random fansub sites for who still exists
>Chihiro still exists
What the fuck? How? Are they still as shitty as ever?
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>>135531234
that too

plus the trolling that happened with sub releases
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>>135531289
>plus the trolling that happened with sub releases
Could you elaborate please?
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>>135531318
placing memes into translation

overlocalization

etc etc
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>>135522156
My sides
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>gg

Am I the only who got very sad? I miss the old times ;__;
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>>135518432
>gg
Fucking what
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>>135533102
Rice balls, right?
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>>135532221
I'm here with you bruv. But missing gg alone won't revive them.
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>>135533128
Those are clearly jelly filled donuts.
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why are people so shocked to see idol stuff in Macross. The general viewership think its a jet war show exclusively
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Sasuga /gg/
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Well that was fun

Beats the first episode of Frontier, and the music was great.
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>>135521054
>Kings
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GIRI GIRI AI
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>>135534082

>knee socks

GOOD.
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>>135534082
It's only one episode and she's already proving to be a goldmine
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>no underscores
Nice try, Koda
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>>135534172
>>135534232
Her tears will be delicious when she loses.
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>[gg]
Don't play with my heart like this anon.
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I hope that the second main heroine is the pilot not the shitty idol quartet.
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>>135521124

DON' T
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I can't read these runes, help /a/.
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>>135518432
Oh look, is that grandpa crawling out of his coffin and wanting to try subbing one last time? Good luck, try not to die while timing, old man.
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>>135518432
gg actually did it, those absolute madman
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anyone like the Aerial Knights theme when they folded in?
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>>135534082
>ending with a jump and freeze frame
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>>135518432
>gg
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i've heard legends that in the days of old, VFs were hand drawn
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>>135536104
shhh you'll wake up the protoculture
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>>135518432
symphogear meets topgun
I dont' really like this OST, not enough energetic for the action displayed. Also characters looks very forgetful and unimaginative.
3 episode rule
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>>135518432
Whoa
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>Thanks for the Japanese doughnuts!
Fucking GG.
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>>135518432
>[gg]
Wake me up inside. (Can't wake up).
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>>135534082
Wait, she doesn't have green hair, does this mean shit girl is gonna win the Macross?
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>>135536442
Its Macross though anon, you gotta give it a 12 episode rule as foretold in the dead sea scrolls
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>>135518432
>gg
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>>135529347
Yeah, remember when Evangelion explained where the angels came from, what the Evas are, what Nerv is, and what second impact was at the beginning of the first episode? I'm glad they did otherwise there might have been a sense of mystery that unfolded over the course of the series.
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>>135518432
>[gg]

Dead should stay dead
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>>135533580
No idea its always been about aliens dying to bad music
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>>135529138
The Rolling Girls' first episode is filled with exposition though. Very shitty exposition too. I like the show, though.
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>>135537060
Right, because the exposition at the beginning totally explained the entire plot here, right?

All that it explained was what year it was, where in the galaxy we were, and that Var syndrome is a thing. That's it. All basic setting information, none of that is supposed to be a mystery.
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>>135518432
>gg has returned to us

WE DID IT BROS

2016 IS THE YEAR OF MIRACLES
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So is she still the loser if she can change her hair color?
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The main girl is annoying and the MC looks like an adlet clone
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>>135538474
Win or lose, she'll still be the best girl in my heart.
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I want that redhead pilot to be in the bowl!
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>>135538633
She's main character, so yeah she's in MC bowl.
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>>135536442
is more similar to akb0048 or maybe that anime was the prototype for delta
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>>135518432
>gg
The year's off to a great start.
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>>135524847
I know where to go if I'm ever in Kansas.
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Hayate reaction at the end is pretty realistic and funny at the same time.

>WHAT THE FUCK THAT PURPLE BITCH CAN MOVE AROUND AFTER GETTING HIT BY MISSILES
>AND WHY THIS GIRL RUNNING TOWARDS BATTLEGROUND LIKE CRAZY FUCK

He seen some shit.
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Freyja has a specific form of Synesthesia called Chromesthesia, hearing sounds and music as colors.

Var Syndrome seems to trigger a form of Synesthesia for Zentradi.
>Misophonia is a neurological disorder in which negative experiences (anger, fright, hatred, disgust) are triggered by specific sounds. Richard Cytowic suggests that misophonia is related to, or perhaps a variety of, synesthesia.[23] Miren Edelstein and her colleagues have compared misophonia to synesthesia in terms of connectivity between different brain regions as well as specific symptoms. They formed the hypothesis that "a pathological distortion of connections between the auditory cortex and limbic structures could cause a form of sound-emotion synesthesia
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>gg
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>>135538474
She's not in the love triangle.
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>>135539992
Out of the race before it even began
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>>135539992
But she has this macross like onee-san vibe.
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At first I thought Freya's catchphrases were dumb but it looks like a theme for their whole planet. That makes it less annoying.
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Did they ever confirm if the TV or Movies were canon for Macross Frontier?
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>>135540157
Explain?
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>>135540128
That's because she is. Best girl is free of the romance nonsense for once. The ones in the bowl are Mirage/Freyja/Hayate.
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Just watched the episode. Just like Frontier, I thought it did a good job of setting the stage for the rest of the show. Also, I think we all agree that Mikumo is the best girl and that Frejya is going to lose.
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>WESTSIDE
This is gonna get a bit cancerous isn't it?
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>>135540282
>I think we all agree that Mikumo is the best girl and that Frejya is going to lose.
Mikumo's not in the love triangle. Mirage is.
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>>135540341
Mirage is going to win
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>>135540374
I wonder. Usually, the girl who wins is more nature and driven. Despite her age, Freya fits that description better than Mirage here.
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>>135540196
>I can fly if I ride the wind.
>If I risk my life, I can fly.
>If I try, I can fly!
Weird things to say in normal conversations, but their planet is named after wind, and other pilots reference it too. But I don't really mind her phrases when they're actually just cultural trappings from her background and not some ~endearing quirk.
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>gg
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>>135540158
Shoji Kawamori when asked about canon his response was Macross is meta-fiction. A historical drama in universe. There is also an in-universe DYRL movie. So SDF Mactoss TV events but with DYRL aesthetics most likely. This is why Zentradi have elf ears now.
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>>135540158
>Macross
>canon
Nigga, what?
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>mfw musical Berserkers
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im going to miss the love triangle shit posting from macross frontier. Now we will have who is best couple shit posting and it wont be the same.
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>>135540158
>Did they ever confirm if the TV or Movies were canon for Macross Frontier?
Kawamori's answer is that there's no actual canon. All of the series and movies are meant as representations. The "actual events" (the canon) these representations are based are not depicted anywhere.

This is Kawamori giving the finger to anyone who bitches about canon and continuity bullshit.
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>>135540691
Its gonna be the Macross haremshit now, and its gonna be full of deculture. You made this happen anon.
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Just watched this. It was way, way too corny, like Macross x Symphogear fanfiction.

When does it start? Also, can't stop listening to the song at the end.
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>>135530689
>not even considering what will happen after Akiba is bulldozed for the Olympics.
Wait what
Are they fucking up weeb shit out of there for olympics or something
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>>135540341
Well, that's good. And she's still the best girl.
>>135540374
>>135540436

When has a Jenius ever lost?
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Who the fuck is Lulu? Her Rune? What the fuck's a Rune, the glowy hair things? Are they sentient parasites?
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>>135540922
How do you feel about a Jenius falling behind on aerial maneuvers this ep?
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>>135540852
After Macross Frontier TV tried to make Ranka win but didn't show it because of sales then later releasing a 2 part movie where the roles were reversed and Sheryl actually won i seriously think it is going to have each pilot love their idol to not fuck with sales and fans getting mad.
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>>135540922
>When has a Jenius ever lost?
>implying Mylene will ever win the Basarabowl.
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>>135530600
Don't forget the commercials and seeing the different channel logos on the rips. The only reason I watched Madoka was because of the commercials gg kept in whatever anime series they were airing (Star Driver I believe). I also miss "Oh Kurisamsu" and weather warnings.
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>>135540922
>Mylene
>winning
Hahahaha
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Is there a Freya/Mikumo Giri Giri Ai duet out yet
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>>135541019
>Macross Frontier TV tried to make Ranka win but didn't show it because of sale
Seriously?
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>>135528987
Because everybody complained when they gave the main characters amnesia to justify in-universe exposition.
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>>135541026
She'll win the better bowl: The Gamlin-bowl
>>135540993
It felt kind of weird. Hopefully, she remembers who her mom and dad are halfway through the show.
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>>135541297
She might be their granddaughter.
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>>135541222
>Seriously?
Nah, it's bullshit. Sheryl was going to win in the tv series, but the writer convinced Kawamori to leave it for the movie.
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>>135541333
I hope not. I hope Max and Milia had hot passionate sex after reuniting at the end of 7. If so, her age would fit.
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>>135541342
The old hag always win in Macross
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Who the fuck is "Who Ami"?
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>>135541644
koshimizu ami
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>>135541222
>>135541342
>>135541469
If you have watched both the TV and Movies the rolls are completely reversed. The TV confused more on Ranka being the heroine but the Movie focused on Sheryl being the heroine
>TV Ranka is traitor/Movie Sheryl is traitor
>TV Ranka gives up love joins Vajra/Movie Sheryl gives up love goes to jail
>TV Ranka gives Sheryl to alt joins Vajra/Movie Sheryl sacrifices herself and gives Ranka to Alto
>TV Sheryl confesses love before final battle to Alto/Movie Ranka confesses love to Alto

I enjoyed both the TV/Movie but the ending to both was still shit
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>>135541809
>confused
fuck meant focused w/e
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>>135541809
Yes, there is a sort of role reversal, but the winner was going to be Sheryl in both. It's in an interivew somewhere.
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>fansubbing will completely die in your lifetime
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>>135542099
Fuck this shit.
I want my early-mid 00s back. That was the golden age of animu anyway.
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>>135541724
Oh now I'm even more excited for this
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>>135542205
I know, right? We'll never have things like this again.
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It's not hard to understand why fansubbing died.
Why put up with shitty, meme-filled fansubs when you can get nicer translations from officially licensed sources?
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>>135542099
I doubt it. Retro groups still exist, and some of those are so old that they're probably going to be doing this until they reach actual retirement age.
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>>135542322
Fuck off Daiz.
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>>135542322
>nicer translations
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>>135542388
I said nicer, not good.
I'd rather an accurate translation instead of what some fuckin dumbass nerd thinks is a cool, hip memejoke.
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>>135542322
Happy new years Daiz
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>>135542322
You're pretty dumb, aren't you?
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>>135542461
Having fun with your Commie subs?
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>>135542322
Because with a bunch of different groups and a bunch of different shows, a decent number of superior releases to the official ones would pop up.
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>>135542476
>It's pretty obvious why fansubbing died, it's because the one group that didn't die is shit.
Yeah, sure.
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>>135542502
>implying it was one group
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>>135542514
Using that group as your example is garbage. The point is that if fansubbing weren't dead we'd have superior selections overall.
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>>135542587
What group am I referring to? I didn't mention any one group.
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>>135542618
>Having fun with your Commie subs?
>I didn't mention any one group
Are you some other guy playing smart, or did you forget what you just typed?
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>>135542099
>you will die completely within your lifetime
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>>135541724
>>135542271
Green haired idol is going to die

I feel it in my bones
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>>135535922
Me. I'm liking the OST, even if it's not Kanno this time.
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>>135542865
Kawamori want shitting green again?
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>>135542099
Piracy itself will die in our lifetime.
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>>135542665
>making up quotes
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I've been putting off watching Macross for ages now, but I guess I'll finally have to.

What are the essential things I need to watch? DYRL -> 7 -> Frontier?
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>>135518704
>gg
They would only put the nail on the coffin
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>>135543300
First and foremost SDF Macross TV. Then DYRL From there you can watch Macross Pluss, 7 or Frontier.
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>>135543300
Basically none of them are essential as far as understanding it.
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>>135543240
I'm stocking up. Almost a TB of ROMS, several hundred GBs of steam games, almost a TB of mango, and a copious amount of animu. I think I'm ready. Will be doing a NAS this year for a backup of the backup.
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>>135543240
>people stealing things will die in our lifetime
Hardly.
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>>135543440
i hope you raid your shit or have some backups available
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>>135521957
Yeah, with the HG crap getting this show simulcast would be pain in the ass.
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>>135543488
We might have to go back to physical piracy where you go to some guy who has ways of acquiring stuff. Anonymity itself will die in our lifetime. We're half-way into a dystopian future.
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>>135543686
>half-way
Oh buddy you have no idea.

Look up "Sesame Credit"
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>>135543686
Anonymity doesn't die, they get better at figuring out who you are and you get better at hiding it.
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>>135543605
Of course. One 2TB drive is for the boot drive and small backups. Those two 4TB drives are purely for backup.
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>>135543300
It's actually pretty easy to get into Macross as each one is even more separate than Gundams are.

However start with the original series and then Do You Remember Love. After that you can watch anything
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>>135543713
Sesame Credit isn't at all as bad as people are making it out to be. Stop watching Extra Credits.
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>>135530203
Coalguys is subbing K-On!!!

Season 3 never
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I thought Frontier was the worst this series could get. It's strayed far from its serious roots. I could put SDF beside Aasimov, no problem. Dunno where I can put this beside.
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>>135540993
Please quit the bullshit of downplaying Mirage. She was off by a split second only when taking off and you call that falling behind aerial maneuvers?
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>>135543924
Fuck off.
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>>135543912
>being chinese
All's well in the glorious homeland, eh
Also what the fuck is an extra credit?
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>>135540663

Hey that's what I said in the other thread, instead of rage she completely glams out

Also these fags think they're so cool not wearing helmets, they gon' get it.
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>>135543924
>I could put SDF beside Aasimov, no problem
I don't think you even tried
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>>135543992
Fuck off.
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>>135544141
Stop responding to shitposts that even the mods recognize.
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>>135542335
>instead of playing golf grandpa fansubs animu in his spare time
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I haven't seen Macross 7, Zero, or the second Frontier movie. What order should I go through them in before this starts?
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>>135544500
Read the thread.
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>>135544379
If you really, really feel the need to attach some kind of facial expression to your post, use that convenient image feature. Emoticons are the lowest level of trash.

If you haven't learned that yet, you ought to lurk more before posting.
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CUTE IDOLS DOING IDOL THINGS
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>>135543440
I am also archiving. The problem is often raws for things that have gone unsubbed. Even some recent kids shows or rebroadcast just do not have full raws available in consistent quality. E.g. Gaist Crusher, and Kasumin. I think those Kasumin rebroadcasts are lost forever (past the first season) since Naisho died.
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I award gg with "Best fansub group of 2016" award. It's not like anyone else is joining the competition anyway.
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>>135544626
Damn, how big is your array and can we get some pics? Also, are you using ZFS?
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>>135543924
Oh wow. Macross fans really are this fucking delusional. You do realize that your super serious show SDF Macross was meant to be a fucking comedic parody a la Project A-ko and Gintama, right?
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>>135544690
20 4TB drives in two 10 disk vdevs with raidz2.
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>>135544767
Fuck off or lurk more.
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Damn.
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>>135544767
It's the rules, suck it up or fuck off. And I don't know why the mods aren't banning you.
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>>135544734
Dunno if you've actually watched SDF but Earth was literally bombarded to extinction near the end with humanity only surviving on Macross.
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>>135544500

7 is bad and Frontier movies are much worse than TV series.
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>>135544821
>>135544753
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>>135544829
I did watch it, but what you just brought up has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted previously. I like how that is being ignored for the sake of it.

As an aside, just because Earth was bombed to extinction still doesn't mean the anime should be revered like the works of Asimov. Fucking please.
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>>135544626
>12.5TB of anime
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>>135544876
>>135544876
>I did watch it, but what you just brought up has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted previously.

It's talking about the tone retard. Even if it was meant to be a parody, what it turned out to be was something that could be called high sci-fi that talks about topics like culture and near extinction.
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>>135544500
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>>135544962
>Macross
>High sci-fi

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Yes, yes the overall tone of Macross was somber and depressing. I understood that when I watched it years ago, ok?

>Retard

Really, asshat?

>>135543924
This moron places Macross on way too high of a pedestal. Sorry, but it's true.
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>>135545093
You've made no actual arguments at all.
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>>135540870
Yes. Anything controversial is going to disappear for 2020. We'll see whether or not it returns.
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>>135545124
I made my response to the guy who posted that idiotic complaint in the first place. Nothing else needs to be said at this point.

Twat complains that Macross deviated from it's "serious" roots. Boo-fucking-hoo. It was meant to be a parody anyway and while there were horrible moments of death and destruction portrayed throughout the first series, ever since Macross II we have been shown that they want to take a less serious and more corny route (even Macross Plus had it's cheesy moments and despite the serious moments that one had I have known people who laughed at it all the fucking way through - including the sexual assault scene). The fact that there are people still bitching about being unable to take anything seriously here is pathetic. Are we done here, or are we going to take it all the way to 100+ posts for no damn reason?

This is why no one takes anime fans seriously.
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>>135545124
He doesn't really need to. It's clear to most of us that he's right. The original Macross is very cheesy and is about as much a "high, serious sci-fi" as Shigatsu is a deep and serious drama. It's good, but any claim that it held useful or important commentaries about culture or that Frontier is somehow not in line with what it originally was is laughable. Basically of Kawamori's stuff has been pulp-ish sci-fi entertainment, and SDF is no different.
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>>135545151
wow,looks like I need to do what that other anon was and get some spare TB hard drives for my media
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>>135545151
Exactly, they'll make it illegal to have a store in Akiba, that's a very normal and expected thing.
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>>135545229
>Macross II
wasn't even a kwamori production. Like I said, what itw as meant to be and what it actually turned out being are different. What's the logic to prefer the former compared to what it actually was?

>>135545260
>He doesn't really need to. It's clear to most of us that he's right.

A person is smart. People are dumb.
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>>135545366
They're just going to make sure that those stores don't carry loli, shota, guro, etc. and remove similar statues and advertising in the area. They don't want foreigners wandering in to the wrong store to buy narudo or electronics and finding bad things.
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>>135545380
>What's the logic to prefer the former compared to what it actually was?
Not him, but it wasn't really a serious high sci-fi, at least in my eyes and a lot of others. If it's meant to be one thing and most people see it that way, taking it as a different thing and then complaining that the rest of the franchise isn't that thing that it never really was in the first place is silly.
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>>135529321
Macross 7 almost got licensed & released by ADV, but the cost to license all the music sung killed the project
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>>135545229
Macross II wasn't even made by Studio Nue, you fucking idiot.
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>>135545501
And this will be done how, according to what evidence?
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>>135545573
That's so fucking retarded.
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Everything is shit except picrelated and this fucking 10/10 song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgS_AZSxS0w
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>>135545782
As with every Olympics, it will be done with whatever means necessary.
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>>135545965
So basically it'll happen somehow, no matter what, because you said so.
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>>135545882
Any decent downloads for that? I can't into nihon iTunes
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Listen to the lyrics of the ending of the preview episode. Miku's light is too strong, she is going to sacrifice herself one day... :(
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>Spiritual successor to 0048
Tears of joy.
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>>135546058
>... :(
Fuck off.
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>>135545882
So is this song gonna be the OP,an insert or the ED?
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>>135545993
>because you said so
You don't have to believe me but they closed down a bunch of stuff for 2002 and they didn't have schoolgirl and maid cafes then.
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>>135546029
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%84%E3%81%91%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3-%E3%83%AF%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AC/dp/B0196PSK1K
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>>135546311
not him but what went on in 2002?
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>>135546359
They closed unregistered businesses that they didn't like.
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>>135546359
World Cup, but I don't think Akiba got hit too hard. It was more Kabukicho from my understanding, which is a lot of small yakuza and prostitutes, which are both more damaging to Japan's reputation and a lot less difficult to crack down on than the maid cafés.
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>>135546346
I can't into nihon amazon either but thanks for trying.
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I can tell this is going to be a fun ride. April can't come soon enough.
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>>135518432
I only watched this because it was gg
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>>135546699
That knight is going to be Mikumo's love interest? He seems like the tsundere type so it could be pretty hilarious.
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>>135546119
Wasn't 0048 already a successor to Macross?
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>>135547461
it's a chicken or egg thing.
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>>135547461
I don't really know. I guess you could say it was but this is like a hybrid between both mixing only the best parts together so I'm hyped as fuck for april.
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>>135547568
>mixing only the best parts together
Fuck, picked up. I like both so it's a win no matter how you look at it.
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>>135547393
I don't think so. The artist just drew them for practice. But yeah, it could be hilarious.
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>>135547645
My only concern is the music. AKB was amazing but so far I really love Ikenai Borderline.
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>>135547655

>Sheryl and Ranka had a baby
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>GIRI GIRI AIIIIII
>>135546461
Use plagins for browser, aniki
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>>135547891
What plug ins? It's not letting me use my credit card.
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>>135546346

Here you go you massive faggots.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7ej0h14jj3vlnwe/AACccv79qdacYV-3jJzp1pVca?dl=0
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>>135547784
Well, Freyja has Ranka's energy and cheerfulness and Sheryl's determination and will with some of Minmay's ditziness and Mylene's brattiness thrown in.
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I was ready not to watch this since all that idol singing protecting people bullshit but if Mirage is in the love triangle hell yeah!
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>>135548003
Thank you so much anon. I'd suck your dick if you were at a driving distance.
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>>135529167
This is a retarded false dichotomy. You don't have to start in media res and you don't have to start with a literal datadump.
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>no love triangles yet
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>>135548082
Mirage is part of the main triangle going by the cast listing.
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>>135548082
Mirage and the love triangle is the worst part of it all.
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>>135548167
What is the good part then?
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>>135548157
Easily explained if Hayate has a harem. He could be the Araragi of Macross.
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>>135548082
Being a strait-laced bitch, it's pretty much a fact she's going to be part of the love triangle.
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>>135548129
I assume he was inferring that the "basic story telling" that other guy meant was in media res, because that's what it sounds like to me.
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>>135548179
Idols, valkyries and Mikumo.
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>>135548190
>Easily explained if Hayate has a harem. He could be the Araragi of Macross.
He's way too beta for that. Besides, there are enough bishonen for all the bitches here.
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>>135548129
Personally I prefer the datadumb over any retarded medicore writers trying to make it sound natural and only make it look bad with their lack of skill. Not the guy you replied too.
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>>135548167
>not liking the aidoru love triangle
>in Macross
Why did you even bother watching this preview?
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Which girl will die in the movie version?
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>>135548240
>He's way too beta for that.
How the fuck do you know that? He barely spoke.
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>>135548232
Why would Mikumo be portion of the good part? Valkyries sure idols meh.
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>>135548268
Anyone with green hair, including Max and Milia.
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>>135548363
Because cool aidorus are cool.
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>>135548190
That chances of something like that happening are pretty much zero and that wouldn't change the fact that Hayate, Freyja and Mirage seem to be main three.

>>135548240
I think it is too soon to call Hayate a beta since his issue seems to be that he can't find any sort of direction in life and has essentially given up.
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>>135548004

I like her impressive jumping power, assuming the gravity on the planet isn't diminished
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>>135548241
It's called show not tell and it's a basic tenant of cinematography since the silent era.
You don't have to say "there's a war on and everyone's really feeling it" you can show shots of beggars, burnt out farms, ration cards with all the holes punched out. That's "basic storytelling". And I'm not the guy who wrote the first post.
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>>135548397
>Sentai idols are cool

FTFY
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>>135518432
Does gg have the best memes?
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>>135548397
Sure she might be the most interesting one from the group, Freyja certainly isnt interesting at least for now, Ranka all over again.
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>>135548363
Because she's fucking badass that's why.
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>>135548425
>Parkour Master 2016
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>>135548440
It's effectively the same thing. It fills the same role and communicates the same stuff. "It's a basic tenet of cinematography" isn't a real reason.

Your next post will call anime a "visual medium".
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>>135548493
>Freyja certainly isnt interesting at least for now, Ranka all over again.

I disagree, especially when the climax of the show is her getting some kind of idol combat high and running right into the thick of things to sing her heart out
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>>135548543
>Your next post will call anime a "visual medium".
Not the same anon but, is this a fact?
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>>135548543
Is your name Joseph?
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>>135548573
*isn't this
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>>135548510

I love the drones, and the devil may care attitude she has, especially when she jumped on top the Valkyrie and started riding it.
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>>135548573
In the sense that involves visuals, sure. But it also involves words and character and audio, and the people who reference the visual medium thing like it dictates what you're allowed to do are insane.

>>135548597
No?
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>>135548543
One accomplishes it naturally, within the framework of the world, one yanks you right out of the world and beats you over the head reminding you of how fake the whole thing is with encyclopedic ramblings.
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>>135548167
>Not liking love triangles
>In Macross
Babbies first Macross?
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>>135548623
The crosses actually make parts of this look cooler.

>>135548656
I personally don't think that exposition is really beyond the framework of the world, any more than BGM is, and a series of expository shots like you just described would feel just as formulaic/artificial as any narrative opening. Starting a story without it seeming odd is actually really difficult, in my opinion.
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>>135548749
I'm an old fag. Love triangles just happen to be the most retarded part of Macross.
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>>135548832
Love triangles are literally the only good part of half of the Macross plots.
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>>135548651
>In the sense that involves visuals, sure. But it also involves words and character and audio
Yeah but moving images is the core of the medium (the cinematographic medium, I mean, not just anime). Everything else (sounds, dialogue) was added on top of that.

>and the people who reference the visual medium thing like it dictates what you're allowed to do are insane.
It doesn't "dictate" but there are things that work better than others, always with the goal of making your work as gripping as possible in mind. Think about it. In a visual medium, watching someone die will always have more impact than being told about it (provided you didn't fuck up your scene somehow). Of course, that's an extreme example, but it helps to illustrate where this "show don't tell" thing (and other similar concepts) comes from.
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>>135542205
>Golden age
>Having to wait a day and a half for subs of one episode
>If a show isn't hugely popular it'll get ignored
>script being filled with memes and "localization"
>shitty karaoke and credits
>If you bitch about it the fansubber act like total cunts and decides to drop it.
>If they get bored with it they'll drop ot
>If one of their staff goes missing they'll drop it
>You either learn the language or you're shit out of luck.

So why do we miss fansubs again?
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>>135548832
This is why I can't stand adults.
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>>135548881
Not the same anon but I disagree.
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>>135548980
I think it's more about being unable to self-insert. When "you're not" the MC, a love triangle just feels stupid.
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>that entire episode
Yes

Yes this is perfect

So much cheese

I fucking love it holy shit I missed Macross F and this is that but even more cheese
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>>135548765
>a series of expository shots like you just described would feel just as formulaic/artificial as any narrative opening
No you've still got this wrong. You avoid datadumping, and just because the method is visual rather than via shitty dialog doesn't mean it gets a pass. Shitty exposition is shitty exposition, regardless of what's being used. As you can have hackneyed dialog bludgeoned in to lazily get things not moving so can you have hackneyed eye rolling inducing shots to bludgeon exposition in.
The challenge is to appear natural.
Most in medias res works simply shift the bad exposition later in the first act or at the beginning of the second. The hope is that they've got you invested using the established action/drama/whatever. It's usually just bait.
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>>135549073
>DAT FUCKING SHIT TASTE
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>>135549073

I wanna bang those holo-idols
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>>135548967
>Present time
>Only having simulcasts means no competition, which means no drive to improve
>Mediocre to decent translation and editing quality at best
>HARDSUBS
>Generally bad encoding work
>Often no song subs at all due to licensing issues
>Since simulcast companies do everything for you, people won't be driven to learn moon on their own, leading to less fan translators

But hey; at least you get to pay money now. Yay.
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>>135548897
>Yeah but moving images is the core of the medium (the cinematographic medium, I mean, not just anime). Everything else (sounds, dialogue) was added on top of that.
But that's all external to the actual product.

Anyway, I'm not saying that show don't tell doesn't make sense a lot of the time, I'm just saying that this is on an individual basis, and falling back on story-telling rules or the visual medium defense to evaluate something is putting the cart before the horse.

>>135548967
Mainly because they weren't a bunch of corporate faggots trying to separate themselves from us as much as possible to get cozy with the mainstream. That's what it boils down to - it's like how some people are willing to pay more for their groceries at an old local store instead of going to the cheap supermarket chain.
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>>135548967
Now the things that aren't simulcast often go completely ignored. Those that get picked up by funi might end up with only shitsubs and no other option.

And of course with all of these simulcasts they have no typesetting, hit-or-miss editing, and in some cases just patently wrong translations. More options is always better, but now all the fansub groups are dead so we don't get to make choices anymore.
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>>135548832
But anon, shit talking about one girl or the other is the whole reason people watch macross.
>Be nurse working in a hospital
>New doctor comes in
>His wife calls his phone
>Motherfucker has Robotech/Super Dimensional Macross Theme as ringtone
>Sir that sounds like Macross
>Yeah grew up watching Robotech


Literally spent hours talking about each version.

He's a fellow Sherylfag
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>>135548623
I'm betting she's a robot/cyborg like Grace.
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>>135533626
The other subs are much better than gg ones, to be honest.
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>>135549073
I watched the macross saga only in the last 2 years, and it reminded me more of 7 with frontier graphics. Which is good. Although they're all really similar in the end anyway, and it has similarities to all of them.
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>>135549089
I think we're pretty much agreeing?
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>>135549089
I disagree. Sometimes worldbuilding in the background like on monitors and stuff is interesting. It depends how much it grabs your attention and is interesting though.
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>>135548190
Please no harem shit. We already have to bear with the love triangle bullshit as it is.
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>>135549131
Oh, and I forgot to mention typesetting/signing is pretty much nonexistent in simulcasts.
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>>135541809
BleachOD please go.

They admitted Sheryl was going to win in the TV show.

>TV Sheryl confesses love before final battle to Alto/Movie Ranka confesses love to Alto

No wrong. ALTO was confessing to Sheryl. He went to look for her and she shut him up with a romantic kiss. In the movie, Ranka goes to seek Alto before the final battle, doing what Alto did in the tv show and he silenced her with a hug.


>TV Ranka gives Sheryl to alt joins Vajra/Movie Sheryl sacrifices herself and gives Ranka to Alto

The fuck? No, she simply ditches Alto because of her pet. Sheryl was still sacrificing herself so Alto was going to have his rebound.
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>>135521054
>kings
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>>135548493
Ranka would have been screaming ALTO KUN TASUKETE or ONIICHAN. Freya might be a genki fangirl, but she has Sheryl's brass balls and determination.
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>>135548240
>He's way too beta for that
>gets fired because he does fuck all at work and then runs away with genki red riding hood
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Can Mikumo do this? These aren't holograms.
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>>135549591
Kawamori needs to slow his roll. As much as I loved AKB0048, I don't know how well it's going to go over with Delta with the similarities.

Though that closing song was fantastic and the ridiculousness is par for the course.
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Does the ED have a name yet? Its amazing.
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>>135549591

Didn't one of the enemy jets do something like this? It kind of phase shifted and suddenly there were two additional drones along side it.
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>>135549131
>Only having simulcasts means no competition, which means no drive to improve
Most fansubbers were snobs and outright ignored suggestions to improve translations
> Mediocre to decent translation and editing quality at best
Sounds like what we were getting with fansubs
>Generally bad encoding work
This really isn't the case anymore especially with Crunchyroll having better quality than TV RAWS and most of those dubbers barring Daiz had shit encoding skills.
>Often no song subs at all due to licensing issues
This wasn't the case at all, 9/10 Crunchy or Funi aren't given scripts to songs until later on in the run while fansubbers would make up shit lyrics to compensate until the music singles were released.
>Since simulcast companies do everything for you, people won't be driven to learn moon on their own, leading to less fan translators
People only ever used fansubs to show off their "mad skillz" anyways since it was never a serious effort just a hobby and once they got real jobs they dropped out, the people who watch fansubs were never gonna learn the language anyways.
>>135549164
Honestly what doesn't get subbed nowadays is shit nobody wants i.e. kid shows it was even worse back then when there would be 30 to 40 different shows that season and only half would get picked up and within that half would be dropped. We would have 4 different groups pegging to sub Macross Frontier and Code Geass R2 but no one would touch Blue Dragon S2, it was insane.

>>135549305
Funi and Crunchy does signing.
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>>135549877
That was just jamming.
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>>135549917
>dubbers
*subbers
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>>135549179
I'm too old and busy to spend all day shitposting in boards now. Still spend a few mins a day to do it.
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>>135549929

Sneaky.
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>>135549243
It's usually interesting if the director's bothered with it at all, but it also usually goes over peoples head unless they're hitting the pause button. It's more spice than main course.
I mean a map in the background can be neat but even something as simple as that can't be worked out in one viewing.
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Can these scrubs stop bullets without those fancy shields and shit? Chieri can do it with her song alone.
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>>135549794
Read the thread, anon already uploaded whole thing.
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Crunchy was good for subbing shows like Naruto, Bleach and other shounenshit since those type of shows are to be consumed weekly and be done with, why anyone would wait two days for a sub of a filler episode is beyond me. Datteboyo were filled with faggots and had really shitty quality so I doubt anyone misses them.
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>>135550219
Didn't Anbu used to do Naruto? They were a decent group in general.
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>gg
I thought fan subbing was pretty much dead
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>>135549538
>>135533939
>not Kings
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>>135550304
>gg
fansubbing is dead
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>>135549929

Just re-watched it, it does indeed start doing some weird jamming/visual interference shit but then the wing tips detach and form drones.
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>>135550310
Including their collaborations they had a good few seasons where they meme subbed everything, but quantity doesn't make a jester a king.
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>>135542322
Did you not see Funi's Shimoneta subs?
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>>135550278
Yes. I always preffered them over Datteboyo until they dropped out. Its almost impossible to find fansubs from back then anymore other than that old TVrip of Eureka 7 still on bakabt with the QUALITY opening.
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>>135518432
>2016
>Soon: /a/ sing "Borderline"
GIRI GIRI AAAI
IKENAI BORDERLINE
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>>135549073
The only thing that kept popping into my head is that this really reminds me of AKB0048, at least with the battle idols.
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>>135550525
Funi has always been shit though.
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>>135548190
It's a triangle, but there will be multiple triangles apparently.
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>>135548190
>harem
>in macross

anon, are you stupid? There's even a fucking triangle as symbol of Delta.
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>>135550647
>but there will be multiple triangles apparently.
We Interstellar now
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>>135550569

that GIRI GIRI is heavenly
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>>135550686
heh
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>>135545260
>It's good, but any claim that it held useful or important commentaries about culture or that Frontier is somehow not in line with what it originally was is laughable.
Perhaps the same could be said of Asimov.

Besides, SDF was more Niven tier.
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>>135550647
I want Mikumo in the main triangle for a guaranteed figure or two.
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>>135540057

She's a Sheryl archetype. Can't have that in a love triangle. Since with Frontier, there was supposed to be a love triangle--but that didn't happen, because Sheryl was too damn good before the race even began.
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>>135550807
Not happening.

Than being said, she's awesome enough she might get a figure either way.
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>>135550807
She'll have a figure without participating in the triangle. Why do you even want her to like generic-kun? She'll have her tragic bishounen romance with the enemy for sure.
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>>135550861
Sheryl was DYRL Minmay with some Basara.
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>>135550807

With Bandai ramping up their Figuarts to include aikatsu and Rabu Raivu I want a Figuarts with those drone parts
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>>135550919
DYRL Minmay was so much better than SDF Minmay it's crazy.
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>>135550807
All the idols will have figures.
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>>135550868
>>135550880
This is exactly why I disliked the idea of idolshitting my macross. Too many triangles not enough PVC asses.
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>>135550971
She was. Sheryl and Ranka were supposed to embody two aspects of Minmay: the seasoned diva and the girl who ascends to stardom.
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>>135551025
So was Brera supposed to be Kaifun?
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>>135551025

Ironically. Sheryl ended up doing both throughout the story. So Ranka's presence served nothing more than being a plot point.
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>>135551129
Even worse, were Brera and Ozma supposed to embody two different aspects of Kaifun?
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>>135551187
I don't want to associate Kaifun with Ozma. God I hate Kaifun.
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>>135551129
No. He was originally suppose to be part of the love triangle with Alto and Ranka. But Sheryl had such an overwhelming reception they changed plans and added Sheryl to it and bumped out Brera.
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I'm going assume, though I shouldn't, that LUI98-41S is Macross Galaxy whilst NAH-2194 is Macross Frontier.

Because the naming scheme seems to disregard names for other Macross fleets, while naming Ragna and Windermere. However, the map has only two Macross Fleets ending at the Galactic Center. The first one there was Galaxy, according to Frontier's plot and the one that came after is Frontier itself.

Also, Delta takes place some 17 years after Frontier. So... right?
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>>135551286
8 years after Frontier anon.
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>>135551233
Kaifun and Minmay made the story such a slog I thought it was Literature.
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>>135551286
Which one is the 7th fleet?
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I wish we had Idols sing for us when Isis attacked
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>>135551275
Feels like the show would have been really boring without Sheryl being being part of the triangle.
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>>135551275
Wait, what basis are you saying this on? Some interview? Because this would be some pretty bizarre speculation.
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>>135548967
thankfully we're here to save the day
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>>135551275
That's confirmed to be unsourced bullshit:

Brotip: May'n was chosen as the lead singer since the beginnig and Sheryl's VA was casted first.

RANKA was the added character after Kawamori decided to explore the 'Two Minmay' aspects. He even stated so in the Sheryl Manga Interview. Sheryl was the first lead character he made.
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>>135551499
>on a show with no simulcast
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>>135551275
The original idea was

Seasoned Singer + Two Pilots. Aya was casted first (Sheryl singer). Ranka was a side character, a sister figure. Brera was supposed to be Sheryl's bodyguard like in the Frontier movies. Storyline was dropped in favor to one pilot + two divas.
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>>135551520

And one of the best lead characters he's made to date.
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>>135551327

My bad on the date.

>>135551379

Hard to say, the name designation is weird this time. But the one that arrives last to the galactic center would be it.
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>>135551602
Rankfag butthurt is too strong when Kawamori purposefully cut episode 1 so the viewer will have a 'wrong impression of Sheryl' to match Alto's perception. Because Sheryl was always the heroine.

He didn't make cuts for Ranka.
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>>135551520
I don't know why anyone thinks that a series that starts off with two female leads around the male MC is somehow planning to have the love triangle be between the MC, one of them, and the guy who doesn't get involved until halfway through.
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>gg
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>>135551650
Because Kawamori did toy the idea to make it two pilots+one singer, but Sheryl was always the lead heroine. He even held her casting first and admitted he came with her character first.

We don't know who these two pilots would have been, Alto and Brera didn't exist in this draft stage.
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>>135551665

Trans-GRAH-AM

>>135551649

Ranka was arguably never an interesting character. She had no chemistry with Alto, and was too emotionally immature due to her PTSD from loss of parents and brother to Vajra.

That's not to say that Sheryl didn't have her own baggage, but she was very much like Alto in that they both had hardships from a young age and fought to be better than they were destined to be, leading them to become star-crossed lovers. Quite literally.
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>>135551729
That's not what the other guy's talking about, though, he's saying they changed it at a later stage because people liked Sheryl so much, which I've heard thrown around for ages and is clearly bullshit if you look at how the story went.
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>>135551286
There were a minimum of 3 waves we know of for the other generations of the anime for the mass immigrant fleets: Megaroad (2012 Flashback), original New Macross (Macross 7), later New Macross (Macross Frontier). This one is about Ragna and Windermere which may be part of Megaroad or New Macross. They seem to be out on their own too out on the edge of the galaxy. I get the feeling they purposefully put the weird code names so it's more of a break with the other series. This Delta is too much like watching AKB0048 which may or may not be a bad thing.
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>Sheryl/DYRL Minmay in all but name

I speak the truth
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>>135551779
Ranka is fine in the movies, though.

I am enjoying Frejya so far more than I did to Ranka. She's younger but feels more mature and adventurous? Instead of cowering after the PTSD like show Ranka did, she jumps into the action, adrenaline-music high to sing in middle of the battlefield.

She's so far the most interesting of the leads because she knows what she wants and isn't afraid to pursue it. A trait I admired in Sheryl.
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>>135551818
Oh yeah, that's bullshit. Sheryl was planned as winner since the beginning. That's why >>135551649

Kawamori was setting up Sheriru.
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>>135551835
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>>135551831

>edge of the galaxy

Nah. It's either one of the Megallanic Clouds or, OR, it's the Triangulum Galaxy--since Kawaromi loves his love triangles so much.

>>135551877

Ranka was fine in the movies because they redid some of her character story and pre-established her connection with Alto before the movie started. Rather than being acquaintances, they were already friends from school.

>Frejya

It also helps that her VA doesn't sound like a little school girl, and sounds a bit more mature than her character's age. Plus, it also helps her character be endearing due to the fact that she said no to her destiny and wants to be better than what her path was set to be; same as Alto and Sheryl.

>told to get married to an apple orchard heir
>says no
>runs away
>travels across the galaxy to become an idol

She's got Minmay/Sheryl traits already, which is good for a heroine. Now it remains to be seen which girl will actually win. I'm still rooting for red/purple though.
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>>135552046
Mikumo isn't in the triangle, unless you count Frejya's lesbian crush on her.
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>>135552172

I didn't say she was. In fact, I said this: >>135550861

Mikumo is already out of the race before it even began, in part due to her archetype.
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>>135552046

Very curious to see wwhat the significance of the object she carries is.

also is Lulu a person or just some kind of cute wordplay?
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>>135552172
>Mikumo isn't in the triangle, unless you count Frejya's lesbian crush on her.
By "red/purple" I think anon means Mirage.
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I'm happy to see gg back but the episode was shit.
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>>135552273

Si, because I'm watching the episode and pausing when people respond to my posts to reply back. I'm halfway through the episode at the moment.

Just got to the part where Mirage confusedly straddled Hayate. My heart is doki doki already.
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>>135552227
It's her version of Ranka's ears is all. Probably just some fold quartz like everyone else is wearing.
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>>135552172
>>135552226
I honestly don't think she's even human. She's the only one who directly confronted Zentradi mecha and even rides on valkyries in battle. Heck she was unscathed from a missile barrage even with those pods protecting her.
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>>135552374

>My Onee-sama is a cyborg!?
>>
Cringeworthy yet watchable
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>>135552498
Isn't that what every macross is like?
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>>135551286
Someone made an image earlier with the possible locations by comparing the Frontier map and Delta map.
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>>135542322
It died off because of speed and because we now get every show translated instead of the 3 popular shows getting translated by 94 groups while the rest stays unsubbed.
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>>135548082
>Had MC at gunpoint even after he gets off of the girl
>Once she finds out the stowaway was a girl she calms down and doesn't seek any more legal action
I hate her already.
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>>135552697

QUARANTINE THIS FUCKER. HE'S GOT VAR SYNDROME!
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>>135549591
This was the last episode anon
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>>135552697

>apologises profusely about her error and even tell him to direct any complaints to her superiors
>what a BITCH

What's wrong with you.
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>>135552697
My bad she doesn't have him at gunpoint long but she still restrains him
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>>135550807
>Thinking there aren't already figures planned
What
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>>135552933
>Thinking there are
I'm taking Alters, GSCs, Revolves, ya know. The good stuff.
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>>135552905
I'm too old for this shit anon.
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Could Basara still be alive?

Sheryl's still alive right?
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>>135552905
Anon please. Use your fucking brain, won't you?
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>reading thread
>People arguing about rumors and interviews about main character and triangles regarding Frontier

It's like I've really gone back 8 years ago

Frontier was 8 years ago oh my god
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>Delta wing simple-fold after-burner sequence

I AM SO FUCKING HARD RIGHT NOW
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>>135552697
Or she went after him because it looked like the MC was kidnapping and later trying to molest her from her perspective. And then shortly after they got interrupted by the Var outbreak, so she never really had an opportunity to try to arrest Freyja in the first place.

Would the stowaway thing even be her business?
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>>135552986
Only 8 years post Frontier, so yes. If they skip out on the chance to feature some cross in between, they would've made a larger time skip.
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>>135552905
Anon, sarcasm
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>>135553063
>The engines move separately
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>>135553100
Not him, but if that was sarcasm, I didn't get it and still don't see what the point was.
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How? And why is he even hurt?
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This one is my favorite
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>>135553071
>Would the stowaway thing even be her business?
Probably not, but she did mention it. So it was kinda odd she left Frejya out of the hook.
>>
is it true that sheryl was based on young britney spears?
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>>135553274

Madonna makes more sense.
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>>135553207

Stowaway becomes ultra low priority when Var Syndrome outbreak occurs. It's a quick risk assessment: stowaway doesn't particularly harm anyone--whereas Var outbreak leads to uncontrollable terrorism-like conditions.

In the face of this, it's fairly easy to see why she let them go.

>>135553141

I know.

Just finished the episode. I give it an 8/10. The VF-31 Seigfried sequence during the dance was cheesy as fuck. Also, I liked the YF-30 Chronos design better, just a little bit.

This coupled with Muv-Luv is going to be a wild ride. I'm hype.
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>>135553203
Now the question with Kaname:

Is she doing it with Arad or Messer? or both?
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>>135553274
May'n loves BritBrit.
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AH MY PENIS
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I'm a fan of the inverse delta wing; pic related is the VF-31 Seigfried. But,
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>>135553434
You could have an interesting love triangle there. Better than the main, actually.
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>>135553352
>I give it an 8/10
1/10 for necrophilia
10/10 for GIRI GIRI AI
I hope this shit will fail hard
>>
Possible motivations for the Wind Knights:
They're racists
They're space racists
They oppose the use of culture to enslave the proud warrior Zentradi
They just want to fight someone (Valkyrie theme)
They really really don't like idol music
They want to take over the galaxy but not, like, because they hate Zentradi or anything
They're waifus want them to
Evil corporation hiring them to test out technology
NUNS hiring them to test out technology
Walkure hiring them for viral marketing
The Train Man from Frontier knows humanity still needs an enemy
They're descended from Minmay, who wanted revenge
Time travel wankery
They're extreme LARPers
They're led by the apple merchant, who just wants his girl back
Mysterious reasons they're constantly vague about and that are never explained
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>>135553478

Here's the YF-30 Chronos in comparison.
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>>135553489

Wind Knights seem like they're led by a theocracy. Which would fit that they're space jihadists and believe that the Kingdom of Ragna are all heretics.
>>
I only watched Frontier.
I expected mecha dogfights with some idol shit, but not the reverse.
I wouldn't mind that if it wasn't for idol fighting mechas, but I guess I'm one of the few that is really bothered by that here.
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>>135553563
So basically REMOVE DECULTURE
>>
Hell's Angel's?
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>>135553489
Remember that they seem to hate Walkure in particular.
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>>135553058
Frontier was 8 years ago oh my god
Nigga, I really did not realize that. Gotdamn.
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>>135553479
>You could have an interesting love triangle there
Come to think of it you're right.
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>>135553563
DEUS VULT
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>>135553638
I think everyone in Delta has a love Delta
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>>135553638
>>135553683
You know if this wasn't anime. They all would fucking like rabbits.
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>>135553489
I'm sure they're just human supremacists. It always bothered me since I watched SDF Macross how mankind accepted the zentraedi so easily. While it wouldn't be the first time that humans fight against other humans in the Macrossverse, Grace and the Macross Galaxy's plan was instrumentality and not plain specism (?).
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>>135548967
Newfags trying to fit in.
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>>135553728


Seems Bogue and his crew all have the the same weird hair thing as Freyja, guess they're all Winderemere as well?
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Insert > ED
Fight me
Can't wait for freya songs, she has lovely voice.
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>>135553953
2016 and you already a front runner for shit taste of the year.
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>>135553917
Isn't Mikumo's hair sort of the same thing but on a bigger scale?
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>>135553573
>>135553645

Pretty much.

>>135553917

Winderemere seems to be setup similar to Galaxy. Their tech is much more advanced than Ragna. They seem to, at face value, have some genetic lineage with the Zentradi--and the apple wouldn't fall too far from the tree if there was genetic modification present in their history.

>>135554091

Not really. She's drill hair standard. Sheryl's hair morphed during idol sequences due to holography--which I believe is the case here.
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>>135554147
>Not really. She's drill hair standard.
No, her hair has pretty well-defined shapes at the ends. The other idols have have anything like that.
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>>135554224
epic man
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>>135554224
>no SS
>no ayako
>no anime-yoshi
>no coalguys
>no mazui
>no UTW
>no kuroneko
Step it up senpai
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>>135554441
>all that garbage
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>>135554554
At least it didn't include Chihiro
>>
>Lunar is dead
>Doki is practically dead
>FFF is practically dead
>KAA is dead
>Exiled-Destiny is dead

I feel old.
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>>135554147
Here's a better look. Her hair takes solid form when she sings and even gets charged with some sort of energy. I'm not seeing anything like this in the other girls. They just glow but that's all.
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>>135554756
Shut the fuck up newfag.
>>
Do I need to have watched all of Macross for when the full series comes out or is Macross just like UC Gundam where it's in the same universe and you just need to know some basic information about the factions?
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>>135554768

I think its due to holography, but will need at least one or two more episodes to be sure.

>>135554786

No u.
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>>135554809
Fuck off.
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>>135554817
No you.
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>>135554815
>I think its due to holography
I doubt it since she's the only one like that. I bet this is part of her mystery. She might not be of the same race as Freyja and the knights, but I don't think she's human either.
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>>135554809
You don't need to watch everything. But unlike Gundam it wouldn't be onerous to watch everything. You have 3 months. Skip 7 and you have plenty of time. (7 is an acquired taste, and also the longest series, don't let it bog you down)
>>
I just want to know if the main five girls are going to have actual sex with their respective love interests at some point.
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>>135555119
Kaname's banging the Delta ace.
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>>135555119
>Sex
>Macross
Does not compute
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>>135555119
What this isn't going to have some yuri?
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>>135554809

Most stories are stand alone. Some stories have continuity.

>>135555144

Kaname who?
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>>135548425
Somebody doing the storyboard played a little too much Ass Creed.
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>>135555166

Are you retarded? Altro banged Sheryl, and if memory serves me correctly, Minmay got the D too.
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>>135555119
Maybe Haname since she's the onee-san of Walkure.
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>>135553728
>how mankind accepted the zentraedi so easily.
Because mankind was pretty much Macross City at that point.
>>
Freya: Talented and motivated
Hayate: Talented but unmotivated
Mirage: Motivated but untalented
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>>135555117
Yea I was afraid I'd need to watch 7 since it's length is very daunting. I'll try to get through everything else in time for Delta though. Thanks for the help.
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>>135554972
We didn't see any Proto-Deviln in Frontier, did we.
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>>135555253
Damn Mirage sure got the short end of the stick.
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>>135555144
Don't you mean both Messer and Arad?
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>>135555316
We did in that weirdass movie.
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>>135555316

Negative.

>>135555321

Not quite. She's not super capable like Hayate or Freya might be, but she's competent and has a good head on her shoulders. This helps her go a long way.

Also calling it, Mikumo is going to troll the shit out of Mirage when Hayate is involved.
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>>135555304
Not that anon, but I can't recommend SDF Macross TV enough. Everyone says that you should skip the series and watch DYRL instead but I heartily disagree.
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>>135553274
Sheryl's concert act was modeled after western singers, including Spears and Madonna while Ranka on idol singers.
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>>135555198

Ezio/Altair would've had to use their hands
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>>135555304
>>135555441

On a related note. Macross Zero aged rather well, and the french operatic songs were top fucking tier.
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>>135555431
>This helps her go a long way.
I actually see lots of suffering coming up her way. Hayate's skills will make her feel insecure about her place in the team, and when she starts developing feelings for him, she'll find out he's more interested in Freyja.
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>>135555218
Minmay in the TV series. Misa in the Movie (Minmay glared at Hikaru when he was trying to guide her to a love hotel during their date).
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>>135550525
Still waiting on Hiryuu to finish them.
I thought I could watch funi, but it just wasn't physically possible.
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>>135555578

>interested in Freyja

We'll see anon. I don't think there's any grounds for romantic interest yet.

>>135555660

Which does confirm that sex in Macross is not so ridiculous as the other anon believes.
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>>135555441
Is DYRL a summary of the TV series?
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>>135555321
She's the normal, determinate character who will improve with willpower.
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>>135555578
>Hayate's skills will make her feel insecure about her place in the team
Oh, that role reversal from SDF.
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>>135555441
This. Its story feels like an SF novel of the period, probably why that anon was comparing it to Asimov, though SDF is a lot more new wave. There's a real sense of discovery in learning about the Zentradi, and even when you have ridiculous things like the VF knocking a Zentradi out and stealing his clothes it's more funny than silly.
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>>135555701
I have no idea if Sara had sex with Shinn, but Roy fucked all his love interests, we know Miriya and Max fucked a lot, Mao eventually married and had a child (Sheryl's mother), Ozma and the Misa clone were sexually active. Macross was never an asexual show.
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>>135555713
It's a highly compressed version of the same story. You shouldn't skip it: it's one of the most beautiful anime films ever made.
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>>135555117
I watched 7 in three days sempai, shit was awesome
>>135555166
pic related
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>>135555713
DYRL is more like a compressed AU version. In Macross NOTHING IS CANON, all are supposed fictionalization of real events like war movies or tv shows. Most characters you see probably looked 'different' in real life if they actually existed (except Minmay in DYRL, she "plays her own role" and we know she existed).
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>>135534481
You know that Kawamori wanted that Ranka was the winner? Thankfully they convinced him with Sheryl but this time they probably go with his decision
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>>135555860
Being Isamu must be the coolest shit. Great pilot, fucks bitches wherever he goes, doesn't afraid of anything.
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>>135555788
Also music was shocking for the zentraedi because it was something they never imagined it existed, instead of becoming magic like in the following Macross series.
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>>135555969
Too bad he didn't listen during EVOL.

I like Freyja so far. I don't really care who wins, so long as it makes sense and is done well.
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>>135555969
Why are you repeating this lie? The only thing that Kawamori was persuaded on doing was postponing Sheryl's victory (which is confirmed in fanbook BEFORE the movies) to an open end despite how he claims Alto already made a choice and this "wings" lines wasn't a romantic declaration.
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>>135555848
I definitely plan on watching DYRL I just wasn't sure if it was a summary or something kinda different.
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>>135555969
Kawamori never gave a shit about Ranka. He even considered her a flop character he had to remake in the movies. He liked Grace the best (so he made her good) and Sheryl between Ranka and Sheryl.
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>>135554756
Exiled Destiny is dead?
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>>135554756
Doki and E-D are well alive.
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>>135554756
The only reason I'd ever watch an E-D release is if no one else ripped the DVDs.
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>>135555860

>those godly tits

Sweet jesus
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>>135556079
I wouldn't call it a summary rather a retelling of the TV series. It has all the original concepts but story is romanticized since it is considered an in-universe movie.
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>>135556592
>it is considered an in-universe movie.
To be fair, everything in Macross is considered an in-universe movie/show.
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