>TFW Mom threw out your duel disk with your deck in it
All I wanted my first blue eyes white dragon, I got the kaiba started deck and I played it so much it got faded and damaged.
I was going to frame it
I thought the 5DS shit was dumb but god dammit. I am glad I gave up yu-gi-oh pre GX.
>Watched original Yu-Gi-Oh and most of GX
>Halfway through 5DS and synchro summon is making sense and seems alright
To be fair, Kaiba and DM were supposed to appear only for one chapter so Takahashi didn't think the rules that well. Kaiba was just the asshole of the week. Then nip kids started writing tons of mails asking for more DM
Duel Monsters was some game that Yugi was forced to play against Kaiba. The loser of the game would get mind-raped. Since Kaiba doesn't have any powers, he had a machine built to replicate the "Experience of Death" Penalty Game. It's exactly as it sounds.
Before all that, Yugi and friends were forced to run up a tower with deadly games in it. Such as fighting a bunch of snipers in laser tag, while the snipers were using real guns, and Joey has to have a death match with a serial killer connected to a table with a chain.
meh not really
sure, early Yu-Gi-Oh! had darker themes, but they were very cliché in their execution
DM had a great plot and powerful moments and that's what made it so good
>not summoning 3 Blue Eyes using Lord of D. and Flute of Summoning Dragon
top fucking pleb m8
Fuck, I had Yugi's starter deck and my dad ripped it all up including my dark magician
because I got into a fight at school. At least my normalfag brother gave me his kaiba deck.
Holy shit jap Yugioh season 1 is dope. All I saw was the 4 kids trash
Now I summon Odd-Eyes Rebellion Dragon! It's effects let me trigger all nostalgiashitters in the thread and have them start crying like babies
I remember buying Yugi's deck then realizing how much better Kaiba's was. Back then you couldn't find any other decks since that's all toy stores sold, so you'd have people all using the same decks.
People still play this shit? I literally don't know what the fuck is going on.
A lot of my friends quit playing Yugioh not because it was hard to understand but because it's shit and broken mechanic. Snychros were fine and xyz summoning I was open minded to but pendulum summoning is overly complex shit that wasn't needed in the game.
To be fair, the mechanic only takes like a minute to explain, Konami of America just assumes that its entire playerbase is retarded.
And to be fair to KoA, they're not entirely wrong.
>comments and ratings disabled
So even the fans all hate this shit
Think again! Thanks to the special ability of my Blue-Eyes, your newfaggotry wont even touch the field!"
>and broken mechanic
Then your friends were lying and looking for excuse to quit, for well over a YEAR there wasn't any Pendulum deck that was actually good, even then, Pendulums are easy to shut down
"ATTACK THE MOON" nostalgiashitters =! fans
Bur yours did :^
When I mean broken I mean it's OP when it works. You can literally summon 5 monsters in one turn with pendulum summonings and he work part is that even if you kill the monsters they don't go to the graveyard, they go back into the extra deck. I don't know much about yugioh since I quit after snychros not being able to permanently get rid of a monster is annoying as fuck. Yeah I know xyz monsters are still stronger but if you draw the right cards your opponent can't even answer you back most of the times.
You need to work on your shit posting.
>"ATTACK THE MOON" nostalgiashitters =! fans
I don't quite understand what you're saying here. And you claiming anyone who doesn't like pendulums apparently all only played 20 years ago and based their entire perception of the game around 1 moment from 1 episode of the first season of the anime?
I started playing the game again this summer after leaving early 5Ds era when the synchro mechanic was still new and revolutionary. Xyz summoning and pendulums were all new concepts to me. Hell, I barely understood what an archetype was coming in. However, a couple guys taught me a helmet deck or two (boxers and yosenju) and I was able to win without knowing much about the game otherwise (I barely understood priority and chaining at the time). Afterwards it didn't take long to pick up the other mechanics.
Long story short, the new mechanics are designed to be that advanced or complicated, they're meant to be simple enough for kids to use. I mean the anime even explains them well. and even if you don't get the new stuff, that doesn't mean you still can't play. Fusion decks are coming back into their prime (Fluffals and moonlights), synchro is still a major part of the game (Quasar turbo), tribute summoning is going to wreck the meta again when the new Monarch stuff hits, Lightsworn and Darkworlds can still sack people, and even Exodia sometimes gets wins. Just play what you want and have fun.
>literally thousands of cards to choose from
>not get even one possible pendulum counter
You're blaming a game for your own incompetence? Anyone not prepared against the storm of the pendulum deserves to be fucked in the ass by it.
Just play on ygopro or something if you don't want to spend any money.
You can spend literally $30 to make that new monarch deck. That's it. It's all in structure decks. You want to play pendulums? But three of the new structure decks and you can play with the meta as well.
Kid me was an idiot and didn't get it
You can pendulum summon regular monsters too as long they have the right levels and are in your hand
No, I'm claiming that people who got into ygo through the "wacky and silly" moments in the show were never fans to begin with, if you were then you would know that Pendulums ended up being not that broken except for like 2 decks that were hybrids of 3 different decks that now are banned
ALSO, YOU ALL CRY OVER PENDULUMS BEING BROKEN AND UNSTOPABLE
Did you even look at what anti-pendulum cards we are getting? Or the current cards at all? We have THREE different versions of mirror force now and they all fuck over Pendulums
You don't what I think he meant was
>card will allow you to summon any 5 monsters from your deck if you pay X amount of life points
>pay life points and play all 5 Exodia cards on the field for instant win
Which would definitely beat having cards in your deck centered around drawing more cards in order to get Exodia
>I don't have an argument so it's shitposting
You didn't even try
but it easily loses to tribute summoning
I literally spent $120 on my current deck and it can play against the meta quite well, if I could have found my max "c"s it would have only been a $60.
The structure decks that are coming out are keeping the game cheap, however if you want the most scumbag cards, you need to fork over the shekles.
BLAZE FENIX FTK
>people who got into ygo through the "wacky and silly" moments in the show were never fans to begin with
Nigga did you pay no attention at all my mention of that happening like 20 fucking years ago?
I'm just pointing out that you calling anyone who dislikes pendulums a "fake fan who only got into yugioh because of the season 1 anime with no rules" is fucking retarded because the game hasn't been anything like that in nearly 2 decades (in fact it was really never actually like that). They wouldn't have stuck through it all this time through multiple eras of steadily advancing complexity and JUST now drawn the line at pendulums. They would have lost interest 20 damn years ago when the anime stopped being like that.
Your insult makes no sense and you're clearly just saying it because you're so upset and wanted to say the "meanest" thing you could think of to anyone who disagrees with you over something.
Just last year it was still meta
It was so strong that Konami had to murder it with the banlist
And you paid no attention to what I said either, so we are even.
I don't care if people dislike pendulums, I care if people start dropping the game because they think it's overpowered, it's not. You know what happened when they were first revealed?
>OH MY GOD IT'S SO FUCKING BROKEN THE GAME IS SHIT NOW BYE
They completly ignored that pendulums were shit for a long time, they completly ignored how many cards we got designed to COUNTER pendulums, they completly ignored that pendulums helped revive concepts like normal monsters or older decks(to some extent at least) and they completly ignored that fusion, synchro, xyz or even fucking ritual all became relevant again.
They saw the mechanic and started crying, now they repeat how broken it is but anyone who actually gives a damn about the game will tell you that it's not, yes it has adventages, but they are all easy to disable, this is why they aren't actual fans
>they completly ignored how many cards we got designed to COUNTER pendulums
And also ignored the fact that the mechanic came with a plethora of preexisting outs.
>Dust fucking Tornado
>Literally anything that prevents the activation of Spell cards
>Literally anything that blows up S/Ts and can be activated on the opponent's turn.
And despite every single Pendulum-based deck lasting maybe 2 formats before being absolutely slaughtered by the banlist, we STILL get the cards that are designed to specifically counter pendulums.
>I don't care if people dislike pendulums, I care if people start dropping the game because they think it's overpowered
And yet you included me in your angry little response compilation despite the only thing I said being
>So even the fans all hate this shit
Now that kids, is called "moving the goalpost".
Lets see how much longer he keeps at it despite his blatant lie and contradiction being so plainly pointed out.
Also you still haven't done anything to explain how I was wrong. Anyone who wanted the game to be like the season 1 anime would have quit a long ass time ago. They wouldn't have kept playing this whole damn time and JUST now quit because of pendulums, so your insult still makes no sense. Note that i'm hesitant to even put this extra paragraph in since you'll probably use it as an excuse to completely ignore the first part of my post and act like it doesn't exist.
So, which Yu-Gi-Oh protagonist had the best "ORE NO TURNNNNNNNNNN"?
Magic became shit as well? Literally no excuse for magic, since they cycle out cards. Yugioh died due to a power creep issue, instead of phasing cards they decided to just keep making shit more broken until the game was literally unplayable.
>shit was fun as fuck when no elaborate combos existed and the game was abused
yeah i loved being locked down by yata-garasu at toys'r'us tournaments too
makyura the destructor was also a perfectly great, balanced card. i really do miss it!
>Yata locks were super inconsistent
yeah that's why the CED/yata lockdown won a freaking world championship you ugly retard
also that blaze fenix FTK needs at least 4 cards to succeed, it's inconsistent as fuck so stop whining
Yata was not overpowered, because if you could not pull it off (which was the case more often than not) you had no chance of winning since your deck revolved around one big gimmick. The only reason they banned it is because it was abusive, not that it was consistent. It was a low tier deck, even back then. Nowhere near as broken as the shit today. And even then, Yata was an outlier. The game was better back then in every way.
>broken the game
Actually, is saving the game from the monotony. Normal Monsters are a thing now because of the Normal Pendulums and "First of the Dragons" Fusion Monster card.
CED was good, yata was not. And both were banned, dumbass. The game was well balanced back then, now it has become a joke. You could even fun fucking mill and burn decks, bet you haven't even heard of those words have you newfag?
Nah, yugioh was legitimately a good game back then. Very solid core mechanics, yet not broken enough to have them exploited. Even magicfags recognized it to be good. Now it's literally embarrassing what it has become.
>Mill and Burn decks
We've had plenty of burn decks over the years, but nobody likes playing against Solitaire burn decks so the cards that make them work always get banned, and rightfully so
Are you retarded? A mill deck is a deck that forces your opponent to deck out. Lightsworns are a hard counter to mill decks.
Before Yugioh became broken, mill decks were actually a viable strategy. Not like you would know.
Mill does not refer solely to your opponent.
It's simply throwing cards from deck to grave.
Also, deckout was never a viable strategy in meta to build a deck around, save for certain FTK loops that usually get banned instantly or are too inconsistent
Seriously, are you an idiot? Cards have at least a 6 months run in the unlimited section of the banlist before eventually getting banned. CED wasn't always banned, so your argument is invalid. It had a huge impact on the metagame and is one of the most broken cards of the game along with Makyura the Destructor before it eventually got banned. And guess what? Makyura & CED both were released in 2004/2005. It just goes to show how the early game was abused.
But Mill decks aren't fun, they're boring. And mill decks would actually still be "viable" if Konami hadn't banned/limited several cards. It's boring to play against mill decks, so Konami made sure people wouldn't use them in tournaments.
The card on the right can do everything the cards on the left do with no drawbacks
I literally said Jinzo / Kycoo and then some faggot brought up cards from several sets later for fuck knows what reason. I wasn't talking about IOC. IOC is when the game started to become broken with magician / BLS / CED etc.
>Can be summoned with no tributes with 1900 ATK. Can be summoned with 2 tributes with 3000 ATK. Can be summoned with 3 tributes to destroy all cards on your opponent's field.
>Moisture Creature can destroy all spell/traps by tributing 3 monsters, Gilford can destroy all monsters by tributing 3 monsters, Beast King Barbaros can do both at once.
>"It's not a mill because I said so!1!!1"
>"I don't care if it's wrong, it's not up to my standard!!!1!"
>"Fuck you, you're just wrong, shut up11!!!"
And then there's pic related.
Not him, but mill decks are not called deckout decks, and to my knowledge never were. I've never even heard that term before. Mill decks just aren't viable because they are far too slow for the current broken as fuck meta.
Lightsworn has always been identified as a mill deck. In my case, that's the only thing I really wanted to point out. They can argue about what's a mill deck or not all they want.
>and to my knowledge never were.
Deck destruction used to be the popular name back in the stone age when I played, it was also known as a deck out strategy so it would on occasion be called a deck out deck.
It is refereed to as a "self-mill deck", which is the polar opposite of a "mill deck". A mill deck has nothing to do with lightsworn. Self milling and milling are mutually exclusive concepts.
I see these all the time
>I can normal summon in face-up defense mode
>I can Synchro summon anything with any tuner and any non-tuner regardless of levels
>Raigeki Break and Tribute to the Doomed triggers Dark World effects
>Rank and Levels are the same thing
>Gemini monsters have their effects when they're first summoned
>I can negate Counter Traps with Shi En
>Solemn Warning can negate anything just like Judgement
>Mask Change can summon any HERO fusion
These I give a slight pass:
>I can draw on the first turn (post-2014)
>If I activate a Field Spell your Field Spell is destroyed (post-2014)
This. Magic used "Mill" because of Millstone, and YGO! used "deck destruction" because of the Deck Destruction Virus of Death promo. The problem with the latter being the archetype was coined based on the anime functionality. The real card was nerfed significantly to not even affect the deck.
>people who put extra deck monsters in the main deck
>"hurrdurr, muh gravity bind disables your level 4 gagaga cowboy's attacks"
>"you can't attack my attack position monsters till you defeat my def position ones first"
>people who use the anime effects
>having only 4000 lp
>"pffft, who needs a side deck?"
>"PENDULUMS HURDURR YOU HACK"
Like I said, I don't care, all I want to say is that people keep identifying it as a mill. Go pick a fight with those faggots.
Mill comes from magic. In magic we had a mechanic called dredge so we are able to differentiate between regular mill decks and decks that self mill (self mill is also a viable term)
Yugioh doesn't really have that as you can't really call a deck that is running 0 lightsworns a lightsworn deck. Also yugioh players are retarded enough to refer to self mill as just mill
>all I want to say is that people keep identifying it as a mill
Well they are wrong, so that is irrelevant. I can only assume that they weren't around when mill decks were a thing.
It comes from magic, but yugioh adopted the term. We aren't talking about magic.
There were not "types" of mill decks like you are used to, newfag. Mill decks were just mill decks. They ran cards like Morphing Jar, The Shallow Grave, Spear Cretin, Needle Worm (which was $300 back then), Book of X, etc.
I'm saying you don't have a term like dredge that lets you differentiate between regular mil and self mill as yugioh has archetypes instead of more broad mechanics so naming a type of deck after an archetype doesn't work out if not using the archetype.
Also seems like yugioh players are too dumb to use self mill instead of just mill
For the most part, an card of prevention is worth a playset of cures. Besides, most of the problem with Xyz is that they have baller effects.
If a Rank-based Gravity Bind retrain was out, this is exactly what would happen:
>Flip Xyz Gravity Bind
>Opponent makes Castel
>Detach 2 for eff, targeting Xyz Gravity Bind
>Swing anyway for 2k because it's also got a decent body.
And that's assuming they even bother to get rid of a card that they can effortlessly play around.
I never asked for any types, you were just assuming again. I just wanted to know if there was more than one relevant mill deck that existed so that I could take delight in your salt as you have obviously been ass-mad for having lost the chance to play your old-ass shit mill deck you spent literally hundreds of dollars on just to be shat on by the meta.
Worry not, oldfag, not as if this meta isn't fucking just you over.
I didn't run mill decks. I spent hundreds of dollars on BW and Glads, but those decks were fucked 6 years ago.
If we're talking about way back in the day, I ran spellcasters. This was before archtypes existed and most decks shared like 1/3rd of the same cards.
Mill refers to the act of taking a card(s) from the top of a deck and putting it/them into the discard pile. And yes I know what a mill deck does as they exist in magic too and they also suck.
Im saying that in magic using the term mill or dredge tells us which player is getting milled while yugioh doesnt so dumb people probably used mill as a deck to refer to self miling and it cought on.
Not exactly a regular player, I just play the games on the PSP/PSV,but Azure-Eyes is fun if you like shitting out Blue-Eyes from your graveyard.
I prefer Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon though, it can do the same thing but you can even bring cards out from the hand.
Nobody said the meta is hard. It's just retarded and broken, which pretty much everyone agrees with except the few faithful shills that YGO still has. Glads were super broken back in the day, but they don't even begin to compare to the shit being run now.
Oh, then I believe that was my own misunderstanding. Pardon me.
also, I said "complaining about the meta this hard" pertaining to the act of complaining done so much that it comes off as doing it too hard, not "complaining about the meta being hard"
Still, you're right. The money you pay for damned good cards end up being just 6 month investments at most.
They still could have done a better job even without phasing out older cards, but eventually it would have lead to this either way. They could have squeezed another 10 years out of the game is they tried, but they just let it get out of hand for a quick cash grab.
I misread your post because it's 6 am, but all card games have the same issue. Magic and Pokemon cards get completely phased out, at least in Yugioh you can still use them even if they are shit.
If all cards become free again from the banlists, all at unlimited, which would rule the whole meta?
Yeah. For Yugioh, I still get the pleasure of making somewhat decent gimmick decks.
They are unbanning cards and errata-ing them to be shit. Chaos Emperor Dragon is legal again, but the new reading of its effect is kinda garbage so nobody is gonna use it anyway.
Makyura is by far the most broken card ever made, so that one.
Wait, so from DM to Arc-V, Makyura is the biggest threat that was ever banned? Even the best tier decks right now won't stand a damned chance?
There's a lot of mechanics that have changed the way the game works over the years, but oftentimes the simplest change is the strongest one.
Being able to activate any traps straight from your hand is stupid dope, and fulfilling the condition to do that is really fucking easy.
HE'S AT IT AGAIN. THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN.
Relay Soul. Your opponent can't win unless they deck you out or get rid of the monster you put on the board. It also lets you summon just about anything.
What? You said "allowed in tournaments", not "viable to play".
>shuffle it into your deck
If I get 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 0, OP or janitors must delete this thread.
And it's a normal monster that requires 2 tributes (and it used to be 3) and can easily be destroyed by virtually any trap,magic or effect that can instakill.
Boy they really bigged up this mediocre card.
Even if you manage to get all the cards you need, odds are your oponent will stop it with any number of cards effects. Like, you go -3 to summon BEUD and he just uses Bottomless
Well, actually pulling the OTK off against all odds is the rewarding part.
And Gospel of Revival can protect you from a Bottomless/Mirror Force now (but not non-destruction removal).
This. The game is now broken and peoples who disagree are in denial. Only changing the rules to make the game more "accessible", I think. But, the damage was already taken.
>These nostalgiafags still haven't switched to UNO
I just skimmed through an episode of Zexal (after many years of not having any contact with the yugioh franchise) and can only say this is the most boring foolish crap I've ever seen.
Either that or pic related.
>I just skimmed through an episode of Zexal
Anyone here play online?
What kind of decks do you like to use?
I also use these sometimes, but they don't net me enough wins unfortunately.
>Rippling Mirror Force
>When an opponent's monster declares a direct attack: Shuffle all Attack Position monsters your opponent controls into the Deck.
I'm going to rewatch this show now. It was too much fun.
Are there any more Yu-Gi-Oh nostalgia pandering products coming out? I bought the legendary decks because i want to display it with my Yugi Figma when it releases. Would love some more things to add to a tasteful small collection, but the old original starter decks are stupidly over priced.
new millenium packs are coming out eventually with old battle city nostalgia cards
God Phoenix is coming
Even if the Arc-V support came out, they'd be shit, if not shittier than they are right now.
They were never good.
Play Geargias or Cyber Dragons, hell, maybe even Dinomists
Maaaaaaaaaaan, but Geargia look goofy as fuck.
Has the ancient gear unique effect ever actually been as useful as I seem to think it is? Unobstructed attacks from piercing 3000s seems kinda nice.
The problem is that they're too slow to be summoned out.
Maybe you can try to tech in your Golems into a pendulum deck but otherwise don't ever hope to tribute summon it.
Protection while attacking is nice yes, but it doesn't apply to monster effects and outside of that, they've got little defense against removal.
I mean, Ancient Gears lost the minute Cyber Dragon was a thing, you needed a tribute for say, AG Beast, while Cyber Dragon would just summon itself next turn at no cost, or worse, fuse and OTK.
And that's before Chimeratech OTK was a thing.
Yeah, a bunch of new cards. Curse of Dragon retrain, Winged Dragon of Ra Phoenix Mode, Winged Dragon of Ra Sphere Mode, Summoned God Exodia and Obliterate!
>turn 1 summon this fucker
>watch a pendulum shitter eat himself alive during his 20 move turn
>it doesn't matter because he clears my entire field, while simultaneously XYZPENDULUMSYNCHRO summoning 5 8star monsters and procedes to win the game
but hey, heavy storm is a broken card
If he plays any decent pendulum deck and has not either gotten castel or a big beater in 4 moves, you played against a shitty deck or a shitty player.
Flare is good when you scored big damage early on (or they wasted much LP with solemns) to restrict or win the late game.
He is nowhere near that durable.
And if they play DDDs, they suddenly earn 5000LP
If heavy storm was not banned while Plusfire was not banned with Ariadne on to boot, it'd be broken
>some guy gets that out on turn 1
>get burned by its effect 9 times in a row down to 3500
>end the duel on that turn with a board containing 5 different Blue-Eyes that all attack for game
ZENSOKU ZENSHIN DA
Well, Heavy vs Duster actually makes some sense because Heavy allows you to clear your Pendulum and make Pendulum floaters float.
>If heavy storm was not banned while Plusfire was not banned with Ariadne on to boot, it'd be broken
Yeah I know, it's just kinda weird how a pure advantage card is now "worse"than a card with a drawback.
Yes, and it does my cardfu viable too.
Demise can only be searched along with End of the World though, but hey you can use Ruin too
>people complaining the game is broken
>when you could win in 1 turn just as easily before with shit like Cyber Stein + Blue Eyes Ultimate + Megamorph
As of this point, Blue Eyes gained more support. Some kind of Blue Eyes Alternative? Either way, Blue Eyes has more going for it than others. There's also the Dragon Type & Light Attribute.
This kinda how it goes in the manga:
Basically a bunch of one-time games which usually consist of Yugi challenging bullies and other bad people to shadow games. Kaiba is introduced here as on of them. Later there's the Death-T story where Kaiba forces Yugi to play deadly games with his friends until he faces Kaiba himself in DM and mind crushes him. After this Bakura is introduced and plays a Shadow Monster RPG with them where he traps their sould into dolls. This is where they formally meet Yami Yugi.
>Duelist Kingdom arc
You know the deal, Duel Monster tournament, etc, etc. There are some differences here and in the rest of the manga like Pegasus dying at the of this arc for example.
>Dungeon Dice Monsters
Similar to anime but slightly longer. Also the incident where Yugi duels Keith and has to build his puzzle doesn't happen, instead the whole puzzle and fire thing happens in the DDM duel.
>Battle city arc
Duel Monster tournament, etc.
>Dawn of the Duel
Yami Yugi finds out about his past and who he is. Bakura is the main villain of this arc. It's kinda hard to explain Yugi beats Bakura at the end in some RPG about ancient egypt, not really centered on Duel Monsters.
>Ceremonial Battle arc
Atem (Yami Yugi) has to lose a battle in order to move on to the afterlife. He duels Yugi and loses.
YuGiOh featured game of the week chapters, which is why at the beginning they shown a lot of games, kaz is probably /tg/ more than anything and yugioh meaning king of games (literally) you probably get the idea but adding a sense of justice in it...sorta.
DM or Magic and Wizards as it is known in the manga, was one of many games Kaz made up and accidentally end up becoming popular among readers which they asked to see more about this game, because this was unexpected, Kaz decided to go along with it making oddly strategies like ATTACK THE MOON and such. Even he wrote to the readers not to take the strategies in the manga seriously since they aren't based in the official rules (this was around battle city arc).
Also if you gonna read the manga (which I recommend) you'll be surprised how many things got changed and removed like duel disk only having 5 slots for both monster and spell/traps and it doesn't fold like in the anime, monster with a level higher/lower than their OCG counterpart.
Kaiba is not so obsessed with dragons like in anime (and LK) love to shove to us and has more character which is important before you plan to watch the movie. Bakura is likeable and adds more key to the plot than the anime.
I don't recommend YGO R or GX if you're not autistic like me when it comes to drawing and styles because they lack that Kaz touch to tones and patterns
Funny thing that if they were using the real cards, Blast Held by a Tribute still would've been able to be activated but he wouldn't have lost either way.
Buy three copies of the Pendulum structure deck that came out at the beginning of this month and you're already 95% done making the most broken deck the game has ever seen, all you need is more Rank 4 monsters to throw in your extra deck.
>Decks that want to mill the opponent are more commonly refer as deckout ones now.
People who refer to them as such are retarded because Mill is a term borrowed from MtG, and in literally any other card game Milling is the act of removing cards from your OPPONENT's deck.
Self mill is a thing. You call it self mill.
>95% done making the most broken deck the game has ever seen
Anon, I think your confusing Magicians for PePe/EmEM/PerformaSlayer/whatever you want to call it. The only PePe card in the structure is Skullcrobat.
>go to sleep
>thread is still alive
>when it comes to drawing and styles
plot in YGO R is very good, and for a filler, is very well made but im very autistic when it comes to styles, I know Kaz was only supervising the manga.
it had better characters, the entire game was silly because it wasn't too strict with the rules (a bit in battle city though). It had more than just heart of the cards and children's card game.
At this point in the TCG, Magicians is the best deck the game has ever seen hands down, and a budget version of the deck is still extremely formidable and will remain relatively formidable even into BOSH for only $30.
What is the best current waifu deck? I played Ritual Beasts but they seem to only work as a "get lucky in your first draw to get Elder/Hawk or lose" deck these days. Aromages are fun but pretty luck dependent.
>be a noob
>learn ritual beasts because the girls are cute
>that feel when you've actually lost a few "won" duels because you ran out of time with your combos and couldn't declare attack
>All these game enthusiast
All I remember from my childhood is that I fapped to Anzu furiously everytime she showed up
Re reading the first few volumes, foegot how unique and interesting the art was before becoming completely streamlined. Convinced me to buy the art book.
Anyone complaining the game is broken """now""" are underage and should stop posting. The game was broken since the first set and anyone who thinks blue eyes was even remotely good even back then was or is a stupid faggot. The game was fun because of how swingy bullshit it was, if you want a balanced game play magic or netrunner.
Being able to activate traps from the hand is pretty OP. For example, Reckless Greed basically becomes Pot of Greed(free+1) and Backup Soldier a better version of Dark Factory of Mass Production. This allowed for many FTKs when coupled with Painful Choice and Exodia for example.
It allows you to activate traps from the hand. Don't you see how OP that is? You can basically play during your opponent's turn as if it were yours by activating a bunch of traps, and ultimately not let them play Yu-Gi-Oh by burning their ressources.
Okay, wait, it's if it goes from the graveyard from anywhere, not just the field? Jesus christ.
Didn't have traps like these back in the day, I guess. I was thinking Trap Hole, Mirror Force, Magical Cylinder, ect.
Exchange of the Spirit has been changed to require both players to have 15 cards in the Graveyard to activate it but you can technically still do the same thing by abusing Temple of the Kings milling the opponent's Extra Deck.
But at the same time you have to watch the fuck out because if you give your opponent ANY room to work with, putting their entire deck in the grave can backfire hilariously.
>What makes this card so good? I wasn't around when it was a thing.
Reckless Greed wasn't around when I was playing, either.
Backup Solider did exist, admittedly. I think just as I was quitting.
HA-HA. KAIBA! DID YOU FORGET, THE FLUTE CALLS ALL DRAGONS TO THE FIELD, INCLUDING MY OWN!
Alright anons, speaking of yugioh, lets make this fun
whats the current most viable vanilla deck you can make
Vanilla as in no
-fusions (exclusion of heros because that destroys the whole archetype)
this is my proposal
this used to be what i used before jars were banned
oh please like otk decks arent still an issue in more bullshit ways
oh you wanna pull exodia in the opening move? okay. wanna mull your opponent to death with full spell/trap/effect protection? sure. wanna use jars with no defense other than hand resets? LORD HAVE MERCY
its fun to use them. fiber jar is where its at though
Fiber Jar wasn't in the game sadly. I just had
>3x Morphing Jar
>3x Morphing Jar #2
>3x Cyber Jar
Magic Thorns was the burn. Either they milled out or died when they went to discard/Card Destruction.
We did, we got 9 episodes of it on DVD before they stopped:
In a way, BEWD has yet to be powercreeped though.
It's still the strongest vanilla you can maindeck. Although Rabbidragon does have a higher combined ATK+DEF total.
As for your question, definitely Cyber Dragon.
A 2100 beater that would just summon itself if your opponent had a SINGLE monster out was just the start. On top of that it was a key piece in so many OTKs because shit like Power Bond and Limiter Removal also came out.
I mean christ, CyDra was once LIMITED and that wasn't enough to stop it
Konami, the absolute madmen.
>A fucking upside?
Nah man, draw power is everything in YGO. It's just getting the right cards that's the hard part since everyone and their mom can OTK nowadays. More draw power you have the faster you'll win.
The same retards who bashed synchro calling it broken and "end of yugioh" bashed xyz, then they bashed pendulum for the same thing. You can't satisfy the vocal retarded minority who can't think of a good argument but would rather shitpost constantly.
Pendulums are a welcome addition to the game and I feel adds speed.
"B-but anon it is broken and it goes back to the extra deck"
<< One of many solutions to pendulums. Another is wavering eyes, another is bottomless trap hole, solemn notice, mystical space typhoon, solemn warning, anti spell fragrance etc.
If I can disrupt your play, you are fucked and then I can otk next turn. Use your brain before you spew piddly shit that can easily be countered.
Cyber Dragon is what most competitive people would point at.
Easily summonable 2100 monster and that was when archetypes started to receive more crazy support. Not that the game wasn't a shitfest before,
"I summon my Gemini Elf, use Heavy Storm and Raigeki to destroy your 4 facedown cards, good luck recovering" was as awful back then as the standard pendulum deck turn right now
Cyber Dragon isn't even that good in the current meta you tard.
Yes I am going to need three level 4s overlay them into Ptolemaeus then overlay them to Nova (before or after I get Effect Veilered or Bottomlessed or Solemned) then go into Infinity. With how fast the game is, baiting infinities effect then taking it is easy enough.
It requires 6 cards to summon. Not worth it.
did you even follow the conversation at all?
he asked "what was the point most people would agree power creep was getting out of control" you fucking retard, and community has pretty much agreed that the release of Cyber Dragon started the trend of printing cards more broken than the previous ones
Holy shit, try to fucking read
Mfw i 360nosetdenka on a face down set 4 end
Summoned Skull was a pretty strong 1 tribute, but back when I played with my friends, this fucker here was the king of 1 tribute beatsticks.
works really well with this
mfw ariadne comes out