>Attack power... 3000?!

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>>135248047

>>135248125
Holy cow

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>>135248125
Nice

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>>135248125

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>>135248125
Christmas miracle

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>>135248125

>>135248047
That's what make it so ferocious. A monster with 3000 attack power with only 2 sacrifices is a pretty big deal back in the old days.

>>135248125
Witnessed.

>>135249838

No it was terrible even back then, Summoned Skull was the best tribute during the era.

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>>135248125

>> 25

>>135249935
Summoned skull is so cheap. You get a monster with 2500 attack power with only 1 sacrifice.

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>TFW Mom threw out your duel disk with your deck in it
All I wanted my first blue eyes white dragon, I got the kaiba started deck and I played it so much it got faded and damaged.
I was going to frame it

>>135249992
https://youtu.be/Gs08XuC62LU?t=2m39s

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>>135250040
I thought the 5DS shit was dumb but god dammit. I am glad I gave up yu-gi-oh pre GX.

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>>135250040
>Watched original Yu-Gi-Oh and most of GX
>Halfway through 5DS and synchro summon is making sense and seems alright
>Watching this

Welp

>>135248047
To be fair, Kaiba and DM were supposed to appear only for one chapter so Takahashi didn't think the rules that well. Kaiba was just the asshole of the week. Then nip kids started writing tons of mails asking for more DM

>>135250040
What the fuck is happening?

>>135250589
Is that really how this all came about?

>>135250040
If you need a five minute video to explain a basic game mechanic then it's a shit mechanic.

>>135250628
Duel Monsters was some game that Yugi was forced to play against Kaiba. The loser of the game would get mind-raped. Since Kaiba doesn't have any powers, he had a machine built to replicate the "Experience of Death" Penalty Game. It's exactly as it sounds.

Before all that, Yugi and friends were forced to run up a tower with deadly games in it. Such as fighting a bunch of snipers in laser tag, while the snipers were using real guns, and Joey has to have a death match with a serial killer connected to a table with a chain.

>>135251069
This sounds so much better than what it turned into

>>135251934
meh not really
sure, early Yu-Gi-Oh! had darker themes, but they were very cliché in their execution
DM had a great plot and powerful moments and that's what made it so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJr1dTPSis

>>135251934
It was.

I hate TCGs though.

>>135252125
That's a shame, but oh well

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>>135249935
>not summoning 3 Blue Eyes using Lord of D. and Flute of Summoning Dragon
top fucking pleb m8

>>135254064
>Lord of D.
I don't know why they named it that

>>135250040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6_92puTnE
Why do niggas like Yu-Gi-Oh!?

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>>135248125
>25

>>135250040
Broke the game...

>>135250038
Fuck, I had Yugi's starter deck and my dad ripped it all up including my dark magician because I got into a fight at school. At least my normalfag brother gave me his kaiba deck.

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>>135252125
Holy shit jap Yugioh season 1 is dope. All I saw was the 4 kids trash

>>135254112
how are these people still playing this shit?

>>135254497
How are people still playing Magic?

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Now I summon Odd-Eyes Rebellion Dragon! It's effects let me trigger all nostalgiashitters in the thread and have them start crying like babies

>>135254327
I remember buying Yugi's deck then realizing how much better Kaiba's was. Back then you couldn't find any other decks since that's all toy stores sold, so you'd have people all using the same decks.

>>135254474
Just imagine if we had Yu-Gi-Oh with the surprisingly good 4kids voices without the show being censored to shit by 4kids

>>135254803
Gospel of Revival ;)

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>>135250040
People still play this shit? I literally don't know what the fuck is going on.

>>135250040
>people having problems understanding Pendulums
So this is how you quickly see if someone is retarded or not

>>135255073
A lot of my friends quit playing Yugioh not because it was hard to understand but because it's shit and broken mechanic. Snychros were fine and xyz summoning I was open minded to but pendulum summoning is overly complex shit that wasn't needed in the game.

>>135250724
To be fair, the mechanic only takes like a minute to explain, Konami of America just assumes that its entire playerbase is retarded.

And to be fair to KoA, they're not entirely wrong.

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>>135250040
>comments and ratings disabled
So even the fans all hate this shit

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>>135254803
Think again! Thanks to the special ability of my Blue-Eyes, your newfaggotry wont even touch the field!"

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>>135250139
>>135250258
>>135250618
>>135250724
>>135254320
>>135255001
>>135255213

>>135255213
>and broken mechanic
Then your friends were lying and looking for excuse to quit, for well over a YEAR there wasn't any Pendulum deck that was actually good, even then, Pendulums are easy to shut down
>>135255250
"ATTACK THE MOON" nostalgiashitters =! fans
>>135255272
Bur yours did :^

>>135250040
Jesus, these new cards are completely fucking broken compared to what used to be available. That is the most ridiculous example of power creep I've ever seen.

>>135255303
When I mean broken I mean it's OP when it works. You can literally summon 5 monsters in one turn with pendulum summonings and he work part is that even if you kill the monsters they don't go to the graveyard, they go back into the extra deck. I don't know much about yugioh since I quit after snychros not being able to permanently get rid of a monster is annoying as fuck. Yeah I know xyz monsters are still stronger but if you draw the right cards your opponent can't even answer you back most of the times.

>>135255432
Literally use this >>135255302

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>>135255303
You need to work on your shit posting.

>>135255303
>"ATTACK THE MOON" nostalgiashitters =! fans

I don't quite understand what you're saying here. And you claiming anyone who doesn't like pendulums apparently all only played 20 years ago and based their entire perception of the game around 1 moment from 1 episode of the first season of the anime?

>>135255303
>pendulum summon a 2500 atk monster
>it gets destroyed
>resummoned from the extra deck
>not broken

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I started playing the game again this summer after leaving early 5Ds era when the synchro mechanic was still new and revolutionary. Xyz summoning and pendulums were all new concepts to me. Hell, I barely understood what an archetype was coming in. However, a couple guys taught me a helmet deck or two (boxers and yosenju) and I was able to win without knowing much about the game otherwise (I barely understood priority and chaining at the time). Afterwards it didn't take long to pick up the other mechanics.

Long story short, the new mechanics are designed to be that advanced or complicated, they're meant to be simple enough for kids to use. I mean the anime even explains them well. and even if you don't get the new stuff, that doesn't mean you still can't play. Fusion decks are coming back into their prime (Fluffals and moonlights), synchro is still a major part of the game (Quasar turbo), tribute summoning is going to wreck the meta again when the new Monarch stuff hits, Lightsworn and Darkworlds can still sack people, and even Exodia sometimes gets wins. Just play what you want and have fun.

>>135255465
Solemn Warning is better

>>135255572
I don't feel like dropping $600 building a new deck

>>135255572
archetypes have been around since gravekeepers though

>>135255572
Just wait until there's a retarded card that let's you pendulum summon regular monsters
>summon all of exodia at once

>>135255543
>literally thousands of cards to choose from
>not get even one possible pendulum counter
You're blaming a game for your own incompetence? Anyone not prepared against the storm of the pendulum deserves to be fucked in the ass by it.

>>135255682
but I thought you don't need to summon exodias pieces, just have them in hand.

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>>135255645
Just play on ygopro or something if you don't want to spend any money.

>>135255645
You can spend literally $30 to make that new monarch deck. That's it. It's all in structure decks. You want to play pendulums? But three of the new structure decks and you can play with the meta as well.
>>135255666
Kid me was an idiot and didn't get it
>>135255682
You can pendulum summon regular monsters too as long they have the right levels and are in your hand

>>135255482
No, I'm claiming that people who got into ygo through the "wacky and silly" moments in the show were never fans to begin with, if you were then you would know that Pendulums ended up being not that broken except for like 2 decks that were hybrids of 3 different decks that now are banned
ALSO, YOU ALL CRY OVER PENDULUMS BEING BROKEN AND UNSTOPABLE
Did you even look at what anti-pendulum cards we are getting? Or the current cards at all? We have THREE different versions of mirror force now and they all fuck over Pendulums

>>135255717
You don't what I think he meant was
>card will allow you to summon any 5 monsters from your deck if you pay X amount of life points
>pay life points and play all 5 Exodia cards on the field for instant win
Which would definitely beat having cards in your deck centered around drawing more cards in order to get Exodia

>>135250040
>fusion is still a thing

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>>135255470
>I don't have an argument so it's shitposting
You didn't even try
>>135255728
good taste

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>>135255213
>broken mechanic

but it easily loses to tribute summoning

>>135255645

I literally spent $120 on my current deck and it can play against the meta quite well, if I could have found my max "c"s it would have only been a $60.

The structure decks that are coming out are keeping the game cheap, however if you want the most scumbag cards, you need to fork over the shekles.

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>>135255820
sure it is

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>>135255820
BLAZE FENIX FTK
BLAZE
FENIX
FTK

>>135255213
The mechanic dies to Anti-Spell Fragrance and any Backrow Hate whatsoever.

>>135255789
>people who got into ygo through the "wacky and silly" moments in the show were never fans to begin with
Nigga did you pay no attention at all my mention of that happening like 20 fucking years ago?
I'm just pointing out that you calling anyone who dislikes pendulums a "fake fan who only got into yugioh because of the season 1 anime with no rules" is fucking retarded because the game hasn't been anything like that in nearly 2 decades (in fact it was really never actually like that). They wouldn't have stuck through it all this time through multiple eras of steadily advancing complexity and JUST now drawn the line at pendulums. They would have lost interest 20 damn years ago when the anime stopped being like that.
Your insult makes no sense and you're clearly just saying it because you're so upset and wanted to say the "meanest" thing you could think of to anyone who disagrees with you over something.

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>>135255820

Just last year it was still meta
It was so strong that Konami had to murder it with the banlist

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>>135256023
Hot damn that's sexy

>>135248125
>25
>5²
/thread

>>135256062
And you paid no attention to what I said either, so we are even.
I don't care if people dislike pendulums, I care if people start dropping the game because they think it's overpowered, it's not. You know what happened when they were first revealed?
>OH MY GOD IT'S SO FUCKING BROKEN THE GAME IS SHIT NOW BYE
They completly ignored that pendulums were shit for a long time, they completly ignored how many cards we got designed to COUNTER pendulums, they completly ignored that pendulums helped revive concepts like normal monsters or older decks(to some extent at least) and they completly ignored that fusion, synchro, xyz or even fucking ritual all became relevant again.
They saw the mechanic and started crying, now they repeat how broken it is but anyone who actually gives a damn about the game will tell you that it's not, yes it has adventages, but they are all easy to disable, this is why they aren't actual fans

>>135256250
>they completly ignored how many cards we got designed to COUNTER pendulums
And also ignored the fact that the mechanic came with a plethora of preexisting outs.

>MST
>Spell-Shattering Arrow
>Dust fucking Tornado
>Literally anything that prevents the activation of Spell cards
>Literally anything that blows up S/Ts and can be activated on the opponent's turn.

And despite every single Pendulum-based deck lasting maybe 2 formats before being absolutely slaughtered by the banlist, we STILL get the cards that are designed to specifically counter pendulums.

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So, how do nostalgiafags feel about this?

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>>135248125

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>>135256250
>I don't care if people dislike pendulums, I care if people start dropping the game because they think it's overpowered
And yet you included me in your angry little response compilation despite the only thing I said being
>So even the fans all hate this shit
Now that kids, is called "moving the goalpost".

Lets see how much longer he keeps at it despite his blatant lie and contradiction being so plainly pointed out.

Also you still haven't done anything to explain how I was wrong. Anyone who wanted the game to be like the season 1 anime would have quit a long ass time ago. They wouldn't have kept playing this whole damn time and JUST now quit because of pendulums, so your insult still makes no sense. Note that i'm hesitant to even put this extra paragraph in since you'll probably use it as an excuse to completely ignore the first part of my post and act like it doesn't exist.

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>>135256460
pretty good

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So, which Yu-Gi-Oh protagonist had the best "ORE NO TURNNNNNNNNNN"?

>>135254102
Because he is the lord of D.

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>>135256571
Either Yugi or Yuya I'd say

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>>135256571
card messiah
http://f.angiva.re/RqhvP

>>135254102
I know exactly why they named it that.

>>135256023
Literally solitaire. Fucking what

>>135256023
This is why nobody takes the game seriously anymore. Shit was fun as fuck when the most we had to worry about was Jinzo and Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer.

>>135256618
Ahh, 5D's episode 64. The episode 5D's turned to shit.

>>135256884
speak for yourself nigger. magic has the same shit

>>135250040
Wow, I don't even play YGO but that's some bullshit right there.

>>135256909
Magic became shit as well? Literally no excuse for magic, since they cycle out cards. Yugioh died due to a power creep issue, instead of phasing cards they decided to just keep making shit more broken until the game was literally unplayable.

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>>135256884
>shit was fun as fuck when no elaborate combos existed and the game was abused

yeah i loved being locked down by yata-garasu at toys'r'us tournaments too
makyura the destructor was also a perfectly great, balanced card. i really do miss it!

>>135256927
No, that guys just making shit up. I won't claim magic has remained perfectly balanced but it's nowhere near as powercreeped as yugioh.

>>135256936
Yata was banned retard, and Yata locks were super inconsistent for the very brief period of time that it was legal.

You clearly never played the game back then.

>>135256909

>waaaaa I can't play blue because I can't afford jayce

It's still a fun game to play and most certainly not dead.

>>135256949
>Yata locks were super inconsistent
yeah that's why the CED/yata lockdown won a freaking world championship you ugly retard

also that blaze fenix FTK needs at least 4 cards to succeed, it's inconsistent as fuck so stop whining

>>135256936
Yata was not overpowered, because if you could not pull it off (which was the case more often than not) you had no chance of winning since your deck revolved around one big gimmick. The only reason they banned it is because it was abusive, not that it was consistent. It was a low tier deck, even back then. Nowhere near as broken as the shit today. And even then, Yata was an outlier. The game was better back then in every way.

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>Pendulum
>broken the game

Actually, is saving the game from the monotony. Normal Monsters are a thing now because of the Normal Pendulums and "First of the Dragons" Fusion Monster card.

>>135256996
CED was good, yata was not. And both were banned, dumbass. The game was well balanced back then, now it has become a joke. You could even fun fucking mill and burn decks, bet you haven't even heard of those words have you newfag?

>>135257025
First of the Dragons is great. I run it in my Red-Eyes deck, and even Towers couldn't get past it.

>>135256769
Yugioh was only good when I was too young to realize the whole thing was a money grubbing scam with no real thought behind the base game.

>>135250040
>have only played yugioh classic

what the fuck

>>135257059
not him, but
>mill
Lightsworns aren't top tier right now, but it's not 100% irrelevant.

>burn
What is pepe?

>>135257076
Nah, yugioh was legitimately a good game back then. Very solid core mechanics, yet not broken enough to have them exploited. Even magicfags recognized it to be good. Now it's literally embarrassing what it has become.

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>>135248125
>Posted 5 hours ago

>>135257059
>Mill and Burn decks
>Fun
We've had plenty of burn decks over the years, but nobody likes playing against Solitaire burn decks so the cards that make them work always get banned, and rightfully so

>>135257115
>Lightsworns
>mill deck

Are you retarded? A mill deck is a deck that forces your opponent to deck out. Lightsworns are a hard counter to mill decks.

Before Yugioh became broken, mill decks were actually a viable strategy. Not like you would know.

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who hearthstone here

>>135257172
Mill does not refer solely to your opponent.
It's simply throwing cards from deck to grave.
Also, deckout was never a viable strategy in meta to build a deck around, save for certain FTK loops that usually get banned instantly or are too inconsistent

>>135248047
I really like this blue eye white dragon card design.

>>135257059
Seriously, are you an idiot? Cards have at least a 6 months run in the unlimited section of the banlist before eventually getting banned. CED wasn't always banned, so your argument is invalid. It had a huge impact on the metagame and is one of the most broken cards of the game along with Makyura the Destructor before it eventually got banned. And guess what? Makyura & CED both were released in 2004/2005. It just goes to show how the early game was abused.

>>135257172
But Mill decks aren't fun, they're boring. And mill decks would actually still be "viable" if Konami hadn't banned/limited several cards. It's boring to play against mill decks, so Konami made sure people wouldn't use them in tournaments.

>>135257210
>how to spot a newfag
A "mill deck" is strictly a deck that makes your opponent deck out.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Mill_Deck

>>135257246
>kycoo and jinzo
>from IOC era
Are YOU retarded? Read the posts you're replying to. CED / Yata came after LON / PSV meta.

>>135257059
Mill decks were still viable during the late 5D's era.

>>135257266
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lightsworn
COunt how many tiems 'milling' is used

>>135257266
>pushing oldfaggotry this far
fine then, what's a relevant mill deck from back then, anon?

>>135257293
the ioc era had insane draw power with pot of greed and graceful charity being freaking commons

>>135257309
So you are fucking retarded. I would expect newfags to not know what a mill deck was, but you could at least try not to be retarded.

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>>135248047
The card on the right can do everything the cards on the left do with no drawbacks

>>135257329
except it needs 3 tributes in order to do so

>>135257325
I literally said Jinzo / Kycoo and then some faggot brought up cards from several sets later for fuck knows what reason. I wasn't talking about IOC. IOC is when the game started to become broken with magician / BLS / CED etc.

>>135257327
Decks that function with self-milling exist.
You can pretend to be a know it all oldfag, but the game has evolved

Damn, do I miss the early synchro era ;-;
TeleDAD ;-;

>>135254112
magic tournaments are full of smelly fat autists, but yugioh tournaments are full of smelly ghetto niggers

>>135257349
Milling your own cards has nothing to do with mill decks, newfag. Do you think decks that run cards which take their own LP are "burn decks", newfag?

>>135257346
Wrong
>Can be summoned with no tributes with 1900 ATK. Can be summoned with 2 tributes with 3000 ATK. Can be summoned with 3 tributes to destroy all cards on your opponent's field.

>Moisture Creature can destroy all spell/traps by tributing 3 monsters, Gilford can destroy all monsters by tributing 3 monsters, Beast King Barbaros can do both at once.

>>135257150
>>135257249
Can't help but notice that the "MUH NOSTALGIA" folks still haven't responded

>>135257394
Decks that want to mill the opponent are more commonly refer as deckout ones now.
Get out of the cave, 'I read about competitive yugioh in a wiki once' grandpa

>>135257383
Why would anyone miss that? It was horribly broken and unbalanced

>>135257466
It was fun.

>>135257193
Reporting for duty

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>>135248125
Oh shit.

>>135257485
KoG saves this thread.

>>135257394
>Do you think decks that run cards which take their own LP are "burn decks", newfag?
Mill and Burn are apples and oranges, idiot.

>>135257432
>how to spot a newfag
Mill decks only have one definition. If you new kids call it something else now. that is irrelevant.

>>135257485
I am stunned.

Who #freemyniggastratos here?

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>>135257512
>"It's not a mill because I said so!1!!1"
>"I don't care if it's wrong, it's not up to my standard!!!1!"
>"Fuck you, you're just wrong, shut up11!!!"

>>135257551
Fuck off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YF2N6X79gw

Who else is hyped for this?

>>135255797
Pretty sure Exodia's win condition only triggers if it's in your hand. It doesn't work if they are special summoned from your deck to the field.

Behold, the most painful duel between noobs you will ever see
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJUHu_q_4bI

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>>135257329
And then there's pic related.

>>135257560
Not him, but mill decks are not called deckout decks, and to my knowledge never were. I've never even heard that term before. Mill decks just aren't viable because they are far too slow for the current broken as fuck meta.

>>135255797
Exodia ONLY works if it's in the hand. Exodia should never be on field.
Furthermore, you can't pendulum summon from the deck, only from the hand or extra deck

>>135257631
Also because they actually give virtual advantage to current decks by thinning them out

>>135257631
Lightsworn has always been identified as a mill deck. In my case, that's the only thing I really wanted to point out. They can argue about what's a mill deck or not all they want.

>>135257122
As a magicfag, I appreciated YGO! as a way to bond with my little brother when otherwise our age disparity would have made it difficult to find a common interest.

>>135257672
Lightsworn are pretty much the polar opposite of mill decks.

>>135257618
And I thought "MST negates" folks were bad. What are the dumbest things you/your oponent has ever gotten wrong?

>>135257725
A guy who thought Pendulum Monsters were treated as spell cards while in the hand, and discarded them as cost for Summoner Monk.

>>135257631
>and to my knowledge never were.
Deck destruction used to be the popular name back in the stone age when I played, it was also known as a deck out strategy so it would on occasion be called a deck out deck.

>>135257725
People who don't know what a cost is. People who don't know that chains resolve backwards.

>>135257725
b-but MST does negate

>>135257705
It is the polar opposite of the conventional mill deck, but it is almost never not recognized as a mill deck.

>>135257766
It is refereed to as a "self-mill deck", which is the polar opposite of a "mill deck". A mill deck has nothing to do with lightsworn. Self milling and milling are mutually exclusive concepts.

>>135257725
I see these all the time
>I can normal summon in face-up defense mode
>I can Synchro summon anything with any tuner and any non-tuner regardless of levels
>Raigeki Break and Tribute to the Doomed triggers Dark World effects
>Rank and Levels are the same thing
>Gemini monsters have their effects when they're first summoned
>I can negate Counter Traps with Shi En
>Solemn Warning can negate anything just like Judgement
>Mask Change can summon any HERO fusion

These I give a slight pass:
>I can draw on the first turn (post-2014)
>If I activate a Field Spell your Field Spell is destroyed (post-2014)

>>135257751
This. Magic used "Mill" because of Millstone, and YGO! used "deck destruction" because of the Deck Destruction Virus of Death promo. The problem with the latter being the archetype was coined based on the anime functionality. The real card was nerfed significantly to not even affect the deck.

>>135257725
>people who put extra deck monsters in the main deck
>"hurrdurr, muh gravity bind disables your level 4 gagaga cowboy's attacks"
>"you can't attack my attack position monsters till you defeat my def position ones first"
>people who use the anime effects
>having only 4000 lp
>"pffft, who needs a side deck?"
>"PENDULUMS HURDURR YOU HACK"

>>135257843
Like I said, I don't care, all I want to say is that people keep identifying it as a mill. Go pick a fight with those faggots.

>>135257705
Mill comes from magic. In magic we had a mechanic called dredge so we are able to differentiate between regular mill decks and decks that self mill (self mill is also a viable term)

Yugioh doesn't really have that as you can't really call a deck that is running 0 lightsworns a lightsworn deck. Also yugioh players are retarded enough to refer to self mill as just mill

>>135257881
>all I want to say is that people keep identifying it as a mill
Well they are wrong, so that is irrelevant. I can only assume that they weren't around when mill decks were a thing.

>>135257904
It comes from magic, but yugioh adopted the term. We aren't talking about magic.

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>this card is so fucking overpowered
>yugioh is dying

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>>135257485
Wow when will you keep this up

>>135257920
On topic, I'm still waiting on an answer on that one. Which mill decks were relevant back then?

>>135257981
There were not "types" of mill decks like you are used to, newfag. Mill decks were just mill decks. They ran cards like Morphing Jar, The Shallow Grave, Spear Cretin, Needle Worm (which was $300 back then), Book of X, etc.

>>135257881
Konami should really make a Gravity Zone retrain. Or maybe it'd be too op?

>>135257920
I'm saying you don't have a term like dredge that lets you differentiate between regular mil and self mill as yugioh has archetypes instead of more broad mechanics so naming a type of deck after an archetype doesn't work out if not using the archetype.

Also seems like yugioh players are too dumb to use self mill instead of just mill

>>135258037
>muh the game is not fun anymore
>muh power creep
Get over it, jeez.

>>135257485
This is why he is the King of Games.

>>135258074
"Mill" just refers to milling through cards, a MILL DECK is a deck that mills your opponents cards. It's really simple.

>>135258046
For the most part, an card of prevention is worth a playset of cures. Besides, most of the problem with Xyz is that they have baller effects.

If a Rank-based Gravity Bind retrain was out, this is exactly what would happen:
>Flip Xyz Gravity Bind
>Opponent makes Castel
>Detach 2 for eff, targeting Xyz Gravity Bind
>Swing anyway for 2k because it's also got a decent body.
And that's assuming they even bother to get rid of a card that they can effortlessly play around.

>>135258037
They were also horseshit meta wise

>>135258037
I never asked for any types, you were just assuming again. I just wanted to know if there was more than one relevant mill deck that existed so that I could take delight in your salt as you have obviously been ass-mad for having lost the chance to play your old-ass shit mill deck you spent literally hundreds of dollars on just to be shat on by the meta.

Worry not, oldfag, not as if this meta isn't fucking just you over.

>>135248047
Whoa I just realized you can have 3 of these in a deck = 9000 ATK. Who know Vegeta played kiddy card games.

>>135257725
Not really a mistake, but
>that one guy on DN who starts summoning a bunch of tokens, flips coins and throws dices because he is about to lose

Every. Fucking. Time.

>>135258126
I didn't run mill decks. I spent hundreds of dollars on BW and Glads, but those decks were fucked 6 years ago.

If we're talking about way back in the day, I ran spellcasters. This was before archtypes existed and most decks shared like 1/3rd of the same cards.

Future Fusion + Overload Fusion.

>>135257964
Retard alert. That has a legit drawback.

>>135258190
>I spent hundreds of dollars on BW and Glads
I don't get it, you're complaining about the meta this hard, but you admit to be a degenerate pre-'10s?

>>135258097
Mill refers to the act of taking a card(s) from the top of a deck and putting it/them into the discard pile. And yes I know what a mill deck does as they exist in magic too and they also suck.

Im saying that in magic using the term mill or dredge tells us which player is getting milled while yugioh doesnt so dumb people probably used mill as a deck to refer to self miling and it cought on.

>>135256460
Not exactly a regular player, I just play the games on the PSP/PSV, but Azure-Eyes is fun if you like shitting out Blue-Eyes from your graveyard.

I prefer Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon though, it can do the same thing but you can even bring cards out from the hand.

>>135258239
Nobody said the meta is hard. It's just retarded and broken, which pretty much everyone agrees with except the few faithful shills that YGO still has. Glads were super broken back in the day, but they don't even begin to compare to the shit being run now.

Let's just stick with mill as size reduction.

>>135258346
Blame power creep due to yugioh not having rotation or another way of removing cards from the format other then bannig.

>>135258372
The term "mill" was not in dispute. Someone didn't know what a "mill deck" was, which has one definition. "Mill" is just a term referring to deck thinning.

>>135258346
Oh, then I believe that was my own misunderstanding. Pardon me.

also, I said "complaining about the meta this hard" pertaining to the act of complaining done so much that it comes off as doing it too hard, not "complaining about the meta being hard"

Still, you're right. The money you pay for damned good cards end up being just 6 month investments at most.

>>135258336
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is the absolute best non-forbidden dragon-type monster of the game.

>>135258396
They still could have done a better job even without phasing out older cards, but eventually it would have lead to this either way. They could have squeezed another 10 years out of the game is they tried, but they just let it get out of hand for a quick cash grab.

So how many possible Fusions now exists?

>>135258408
I misread your post because it's 6 am, but all card games have the same issue. Magic and Pokemon cards get completely phased out, at least in Yugioh you can still use them even if they are shit.

If all cards become free again from the banlists, all at unlimited, which would rule the whole meta?

>>135258451
Yeah. For Yugioh, I still get the pleasure of making somewhat decent gimmick decks.

>>135258470
Makyura/Exodia/Painful Choice FTK.

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>>135258470
They are unbanning cards and errata-ing them to be shit. Chaos Emperor Dragon is legal again, but the new reading of its effect is kinda garbage so nobody is gonna use it anyway.

>>135258470
Makyura OTK

>>135258470
Well, at least CED-Yata is null.

>>135258470
The only OG cards that would have a serious effect on the meta would be Makyura or Painful Choice / Snatch Steal.

Half of the old banned cards shouldn't even be there anymore.

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>>135258470
Makyura is by far the most broken card ever made, so that one.

>>135250040
>all these people overreacting to pendulum summons when all they did was make r4nk degeneracy worse
r4nk toolbox is literally the most cancerous thing in yugioh history

>>135248125
>>135257485
Every Time

>>135250040
Ew

>>135258520
>>135258521
>>135258533
>>135258538
>>135258568
Wait, so from DM to Arc-V, Makyura is the biggest threat that was ever banned? Even the best tier decks right now won't stand a damned chance?

Holy fuck.

What is the most powerful YuGioh card that's actually real and allowed in tournaments?

>>135258713
There's a lot of mechanics that have changed the way the game works over the years, but oftentimes the simplest change is the strongest one.

Being able to activate any traps straight from your hand is stupid dope, and fulfilling the condition to do that is really fucking easy.

>>135258538
Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity, Change of Heart, Delinquent Duo, Destiny Hero Disk Commander and otheres deserve to stay banned

>>135258746
Darkly Big Rabbi

>>135258713
Makyura is broken when paired with the best decks. Activating traps from your hand breaks the game on many levels.

>>135258746
shapesnatch

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>>135257485
HE'S AT IT AGAIN. THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN.

>>135258746
Mister Ignister the Dragon Fister

>>135258713
Makyura would lead to 1-turn-kills.

>>135254269
>>135249959
>>135256211
>25
>Not 5³
What did I expect from shitposters?

>>135258746
Relay Soul. Your opponent can't win unless they deck you out or get rid of the monster you put on the board. It also lets you summon just about anything.

What? You said "allowed in tournaments", not "viable to play".

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>>135258858
>summon Ignister
>shuffle it into your deck

>>135258435
Exactly 250 as of today

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Good goyim

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If I get 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 0, OP or janitors must delete this thread.

>>135248047
And it's a normal monster that requires 2 tributes (and it used to be 3) and can easily be destroyed by virtually any trap,magic or effect that can instakill.

Boy they really bigged up this mediocre card.

>>135258986
Is there even a use for such a card?

>>135259106
Wasting slots in card packs so people have to buy more of them to get the good ones.

Filling the deck with things like Yomi Ships and Man Eater bugs and Penguin Soldiers back in the day was amusing.

>>135259207
A guy I know still plays three Penguin Soldiers in almost every deck. It's infuriating.

>>135259080
>(and it used to be 3)
No, never

>attacking with Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon and immediately De-Fusing it to hit for 9K with 3 Blue-Eyes
Years will pass and this will still be the most skillful OTK in the game, bar none.

>>135259350
>Not attacking with Dark Paladin and then De-Fusing to hit with Buster Blader and Dark Magician

>>135259350
"no"

>>135259403
>unironically using Yugi cards
It's like you want to lose

>>135259350
Do you realize how hard that is to actually pull off?

>>135259462
It's a 5 card combo, yes, but outside of De-Fusion all other combo pieces are searchable and/or easily recyclable

>>135259501
Even if you manage to get all the cards you need, odds are your oponent will stop it with any number of cards effects. Like, you go -3 to summon BEUD and he just uses Bottomless

>>135259586
Well, actually pulling the OTK off against all odds is the rewarding part.
And Gospel of Revival can protect you from a Bottomless/Mirror Force now (but not non-destruction removal).

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>>135256769
>implying solitare isn't fun

>>135259691
How in the ever loving christ did the game ever get to be like this

>>135259753
Greed got out of control, instead of taking it slow and steady they just decided to pump out ridiculously broken cards for people to buy.

>>135252125
>Blocked because 4kids
Isn't 4kids dead?

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>>135259898
This. The game is now broken and peoples who disagree are in denial. Only changing the rules to make the game more "accessible", I think. But, the damage was already taken.

>>135248047
The KoG saves another thread

>>135261089
> peoples who disagree are in denial
>literally playing the "I don't like it and if you do you are retarded" card

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>>135254102
Best girl

>>135256618
Fucking Cardgame Jesus.
How many solitaire games did he play to get that skill?

>>135261089
>The game is now broken
It was a lot worse when Nekroz was at full power, now shut up.

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>>135257623
Bitch please.
>Pay 2000
>Inflict 2400

>>135261247
As opposed to
>pay 1000
>inflict 9000
??

>>135259106
Bypasses cards like tornado wall.

>>135252125
Depends, I preferred the early manga, really. It was much less monotonous.

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>These nostalgiafags still haven't switched to UNO

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>>135261781
>implying

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I just skimmed through an episode of Zexal (after many years of not having any contact with the yugioh franchise) and can only say this is the most boring foolish crap I've ever seen.

Either that or pic related.

>>135261922
>I just skimmed through an episode of Zexal
That's your fuck-up, though. Watch Arc-V, damnit.

>>135261247
Incidentally, does Pre-Preparation of the Rites make Demise.dek more viable?

I unironically miss Tele-DaD mirrors.

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>>135261840

>>135261922
Zexal is considered to be the worst Yugioh series by pretty much everyone.

What he said >>135262368

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>>135261922
>I just skimmed through an episode of Zexal
>Zexal
Your fault.

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Anyone here play online?
What kind of decks do you like to use?

>>135262826
DDD, Frightfurs, Moonlights, Monarchs, Red Dragon Archfiend, Sharks, Red-Eyes, Blue-Eyes, Skull Servants, Superheavy Samurais, Phantom Knights, Speedroids and Chronomalies

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>>135262826
Nice deck, anon.

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>>135263088
I also use these sometimes, but they don't net me enough wins unfortunately.

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>Rippling Mirror Force
>When an opponent's monster declares a direct attack: Shuffle all Attack Position monsters your opponent controls into the Deck.

>>135262826
Sentai and DDDs

>>135263977
>better than all other mirror forces

>>135264018
not really. It's telegraphed as fuck. Storming and Burying are the best ones.

>>135264018
>Only good in decks that regularly have open fields.

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>>135262416
I'm going to rewatch this show now. It was too much fun.

>>135250040
>John Cena: the summon

Behold, the Magician Girls
>http://i.imgur.com/Q5EoDF7.jpg

(Am on my phone, can't post pics)

>>135264130
I can hear the music

>>135263981
wrong

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Are there any more Yu-Gi-Oh nostalgia pandering products coming out? I bought the legendary decks because i want to display it with my Yugi Figma when it releases. Would love some more things to add to a tasteful small collection, but the old original starter decks are stupidly over priced.

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>>135267323
new millenium packs are coming out eventually with old battle city nostalgia cards

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_Pack

God Phoenix is coming

>>135267738
Wait, what?

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Que?

>>135268605

>>135267738
Probably meant "goo" not "god"

Tell me gentlemen, in this crazy post Synchro world of YGO is my beloved Ancient Gear Deck of old still in any way viable? Machina even?

>>135268962
Thinning out your deck I assume. Seems pretty weak though considering you can only have 3 copies.

>>135269196
>Ancient Gear
sorry senpai
Even if the Arc-V support came out, they'd be shit, if not shittier than they are right now.

>Machina
They were never good.

Play Geargias or Cyber Dragons, hell, maybe even Dinomists

>>135257021
>One big gimmick
You do know that Yata Lock required two cards, CED and Sangan, in an era where literally everyone played the same Chaos Control deck?

>>135269377
Maaaaaaaaaaan, but Geargia look goofy as fuck.
Has the ancient gear unique effect ever actually been as useful as I seem to think it is? Unobstructed attacks from piercing 3000s seems kinda nice.

>>135269627
The problem is that they're too slow to be summoned out.
Maybe you can try to tech in your Golems into a pendulum deck but otherwise don't ever hope to tribute summon it.

Protection while attacking is nice yes, but it doesn't apply to monster effects and outside of that, they've got little defense against removal.
I mean, Ancient Gears lost the minute Cyber Dragon was a thing, you needed a tribute for say, AG Beast, while Cyber Dragon would just summon itself next turn at no cost, or worse, fuse and OTK.
And that's before Chimeratech OTK was a thing.

>>135269627
It'll usually get killed outside of battle. Ultimate Ancient Gear OTK can sometimes be pulled off for fun though.

>>135264063
>>135264061
Please,, nuking monster fields is easy as fuck. That shit is busted

>>135258470
>All cards become free
Burning Abyss would legit become the most broken deck in the game with 3 Graceful Charity and 3 Painful Choice.
It'd still probably lose to Exodia

>>135259350
>not using Cyber-Stein and Megamorph for 9000 damage while you're chilling out with the crew at the schoolyard

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>>135268605
Yeah, a bunch of new cards. Curse of Dragon retrain, Winged Dragon of Ra Phoenix Mode, Winged Dragon of Ra Sphere Mode, Summoned God Exodia and Obliterate!

>Blue Eyes will become the new meta
>Yugi only gets lemons

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>>135248125

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>>135270166
Who is far left Magician?

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>>135248125
>posted 15 hours ago

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>turn 1 summon this fucker
>watch a pendulum shitter eat himself alive during his 20 move turn
>it doesn't matter because he clears my entire field, while simultaneously XYZPENDULUMSYNCHRO summoning 5 8star monsters and procedes to win the game

but hey, heavy storm is a broken card

>>135271509
>comparing 1 card to a combo of cards

But speaking of which
>OCG
>Heavy Storm banned
>Feather Duster limited
Pendulums causes weird shit to happen.

>>135263029
Deck lsit for Moonlights?

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CRASHING YOUR TRAPS
WITH NO SURVIVORS

>>135270778
Kiwi Magician Girl

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>>135271936
Hi grandpa.

>>135271694
Banlist doesn't even make sense anymore,Konami doesn't care and just wants to shit more cards

>>135271509
If he plays any decent pendulum deck and has not either gotten castel or a big beater in 4 moves, you played against a shitty deck or a shitty player.
Flare is good when you scored big damage early on (or they wasted much LP with solemns) to restrict or win the late game.
He is nowhere near that durable.
And if they play DDDs, they suddenly earn 5000LP
>>135271694
If heavy storm was not banned while Plusfire was not banned with Ariadne on to boot, it'd be broken

>>135271509
>some guy gets that out on turn 1
>my turn
>get burned by its effect 9 times in a row down to 3500
>end the duel on that turn with a board containing 5 different Blue-Eyes that all attack for game
ZENSOKU ZENSHIN DA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufZUPLtG1Po

>>135272150
Well, Heavy vs Duster actually makes some sense because Heavy allows you to clear your Pendulum and make Pendulum floaters float.

>>135272228
>If heavy storm was not banned while Plusfire was not banned with Ariadne on to boot, it'd be broken
Yeah I know, it's just kinda weird how a pure advantage card is now "worse"than a card with a drawback.

>>135261123
should have been a trap card

>>135257329
and then you can normal summon him as 4 stars and have its effect negated with skilldrain making it a 3000 attack card again
too bad that deck is garbage

Magic is better.

How will the new Blue Eyes deck do competitively?

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>>135270778
what's wrong with her legs

>>135268962
spell counter boost
intentionally trigger an effect involving the activation of spell card

>>135255857
fucking qliphorts are broken

>>135268962
Basically a shit version of Toon's table of contents

Ah yes, it's because of memes and nostalgia faggots because we can't fully enjoy Arc-V
Kill yourself faggots

>>135276103
>Dec 2015
>qliphorts are broken

>>135255001
It's as alive as ever, bud. My cousin makes some dosh with this and has his team and all.

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>>135262369
Yes, and it does my cardfu viable too.
Demise can only be searched along with End of the World though, but hey you can use Ruin too

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>people complaining the game is broken
>when you could win in 1 turn just as easily before with shit like Cyber Stein + Blue Eyes Ultimate + Megamorph

ok.

>>135255820
>E-Heroes
>Shaddols

>>135261781
>>135261840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMO9U00pZ3k

>>135257329
As of this point, Blue Eyes gained more support. Some kind of Blue Eyes Alternative? Either way, Blue Eyes has more going for it than others. There's also the Dragon Type & Light Attribute.

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>>135257623

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>>135257485
Fuck

>>135248125
Nice

>>135250628
This kinda how it goes in the manga:
>School arc
Basically a bunch of one-time games which usually consist of Yugi challenging bullies and other bad people to shadow games. Kaiba is introduced here as on of them. Later there's the Death-T story where Kaiba forces Yugi to play deadly games with his friends until he faces Kaiba himself in DM and mind crushes him. After this Bakura is introduced and plays a Shadow Monster RPG with them where he traps their sould into dolls. This is where they formally meet Yami Yugi.
>Duelist Kingdom arc
You know the deal, Duel Monster tournament, etc, etc. There are some differences here and in the rest of the manga like Pegasus dying at the of this arc for example.
>Dungeon Dice Monsters
Similar to anime but slightly longer. Also the incident where Yugi duels Keith and has to build his puzzle doesn't happen, instead the whole puzzle and fire thing happens in the DDM duel.
>Battle city arc
Duel Monster tournament, etc.
>Dawn of the Duel
Yami Yugi finds out about his past and who he is. Bakura is the main villain of this arc. It's kinda hard to explain Yugi beats Bakura at the end in some RPG about ancient egypt, not really centered on Duel Monsters.
>Ceremonial Battle arc
Atem (Yami Yugi) has to lose a battle in order to move on to the afterlife. He duels Yugi and loses.

>>135258746
I'd say Lose 1 Turn, just because it slows so much shit down and can leave certain decks dead in the water

>>135250628
YuGiOh featured game of the week chapters, which is why at the beginning they shown a lot of games, kaz is probably /tg/ more than anything and yugioh meaning king of games (literally) you probably get the idea but adding a sense of justice in it...sorta.

DM or Magic and Wizards as it is known in the manga, was one of many games Kaz made up and accidentally end up becoming popular among readers which they asked to see more about this game, because this was unexpected, Kaz decided to go along with it making oddly strategies like ATTACK THE MOON and such. Even he wrote to the readers not to take the strategies in the manga seriously since they aren't based in the official rules (this was around battle city arc).

Also if you gonna read the manga (which I recommend) you'll be surprised how many things got changed and removed like duel disk only having 5 slots for both monster and spell/traps and it doesn't fold like in the anime, monster with a level higher/lower than their OCG counterpart.

Kaiba is not so obsessed with dragons like in anime (and LK) love to shove to us and has more character which is important before you plan to watch the movie. Bakura is likeable and adds more key to the plot than the anime.


I don't recommend YGO R or GX if you're not autistic like me when it comes to drawing and styles because they lack that Kaz touch to tones and patterns

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>>135252125
Funny thing that if they were using the real cards, Blast Held by a Tribute still would've been able to be activated but he wouldn't have lost either way.

>>135255645
Buy three copies of the Pendulum structure deck that came out at the beginning of this month and you're already 95% done making the most broken deck the game has ever seen, all you need is more Rank 4 monsters to throw in your extra deck.

>>135256023
>this nigga actually fusion summoned Noden
WHAT

>>135257432
>Decks that want to mill the opponent are more commonly refer as deckout ones now.
People who refer to them as such are retarded because Mill is a term borrowed from MtG, and in literally any other card game Milling is the act of removing cards from your OPPONENT's deck.

Self mill is a thing. You call it self mill.

>>135277897
>I don't recommend YGO R
At least is better alternative for what happened between battle city and millenium word than the cringeworthy doma arc and the retarded Grandprix arc.

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>>135278310
>95% done making the most broken deck the game has ever seen
Anon, I think your confusing Magicians for PePe/EmEM/PerformaSlayer/whatever you want to call it. The only PePe card in the structure is Skullcrobat.

>>135262826
Fortune Ladies.

>>135276444
Paying 5000 lifepoints to get countered by skilled, hell, even mediocre opponent.

>>135278357
This is actually a common move in Blaze Fenix decks

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>go to sleep
>wake up
>thread is still alive

>>135250589
>>135277897
Why Japanese kids liked DM so much? What made it special?

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>>135248125
Witnessed

>>135278787
And Pepe isn't fucking usable as an archetype yet.

>>135279628
It was fun and easy to follow, had powerful scenes and likeable characters, and the game was fun to play.

>>135279748
The "the game has ever seen" made me think you're talking about both TCG and OCG. Well TCG BOSH is in like half a month anyway.

>>135278569
>>135277897
>when it comes to drawing and styles

plot in YGO R is very good, and for a filler, is very well made but im very autistic when it comes to styles, I know Kaz was only supervising the manga.

>>135279628
it had better characters, the entire game was silly because it wasn't too strict with the rules (a bit in battle city though). It had more than just heart of the cards and children's card game.