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Is this the worst Type Moon character to date?

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Is this the worst Type Moon character to date?
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>>133663243
>Wormslut
Ever being anything but shit.
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>>133663243
No, Gilgamesh is.

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>>133663243
Heavy baggage, but the best at sex. Determine for yourself if it's worth it.
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I'd have to vote for Gil as well.
He literally just shows up conveniently and dies conveniently and his characterization is complete garbage.
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>>133663343
>>133663390
Gil is actually likable unlike Sakura though.
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>>133663243
My vote is for Gil. Seriously, he's shit.
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>>133663463
Hasn't played CCC. Gil makes it up for it there.
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>>133663243
Didn't we have this topic yesterday?
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It's that weed dealer guy from KnK
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>>133663444
Gil is hilarious, but he's an asshole. Fuck him.
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>>133663524
I don't remember so no.
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>>133663515
True, I haven't played it. From what I've read about it I don't see any need to revise my original statement.
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>>133663515
CCC improves upon Gil and has arguably the most lovable Sakura
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>>133663640
For a main character that seems like a minor thing.
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>>133663515
Don't you think it's telling that, even after starring as a major character in the original VN and appearing as the primary antagonist in two out of the three routes, he had to be given an entire route all his own just so he wouldn't be shit?
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>>133663696
>the most lovable Sakura
You mean the only good Sakura ever made? FSN Sakura was a mistake.
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>>133663804

Every character in FSN except for Illya and Kotomine are shit
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>>133663796
Look at Sakura she got a route to herself and it didn't stop her from being shit, at least with Gil he has the excuse of being the antagonist.
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>>133663804
I won't argue with that point, I love her so much.
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>>133663856
Nah.
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>>133663856
>Every character in FSN except for Kotomine is shit.
FTFY
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>>133663804
FSN Gil was a mistake.
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AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT LIKES SAKURA BECAUSE SHE HAS A FATASS AND BIG TIDDIES??

I swear, everybody seems to ignore this fact because of her being a murderer or some shit i wouldn't know i only watch the anime
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>>133663979

FSN was a mistake
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>>133663243
That's Gilgamesh.

He's simply bad, a bad character and he's badly written. He's literally Asspull: The Hero.

Sakura is not liked by purityfags but those are the same faggots that will die alone and virgins, so who cares?
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>>133663999
No argument there. Trips confirm the truth.
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>>133663990
There's plenty of good women in TM with a fatass and big titties. Sakura's personality overshadows her body most of the time.
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Nah, Sakura will cook for you, never betray you and lust hungrily for your cock.

This one here would be absofuckinglutely terrifying to date.
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>>133663990
Why settle for a flawed Sakura if you can every good physical details of her with a much more vibrant personality
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>>133664124
God fucking dammit the things I would do to that girl are so lewd that I would be banned just for posting it.
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>>133663950
>>Every character in FSN is shit.
There, now it's finally fixed.
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>>133664290
>Every TM character is shit.

Now it is
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>>133664280
She was made for love
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Gilgamesh is the Gilgaworst.
Sakura is best girl.
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>>133663243
I like Sakura because I like shy girls that are actually damaged and crazy.
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When the fuck is the Heaven's Feel movie coming out?
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>>133664634
soon™
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>>133664124
But that's not her.
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>>133664894
That was what my post was describing, BB is best Sakura
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>>133663243
Easily.
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>>133665179
Not bad
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I still haven't watched the second half of UBW.
>We’ll still be doing the Blu-rays in october’ish
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>>133665877
ar has said not to expect them anytime before christmas. or something like that
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>>133665908
I'm just gonna watch it with the shit on disc subs then.
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>wants to kill you and everything you like
>fighting in the Holy Grail war for no reason
>tortures you for eternity after you leave the war
>muh ba ser ka
>does nothing at all to help her servant in battle
>complains about free food
>tries to sow dissent between you and your allies
>is a literal cup


Berserker is the most suffering servant because of this absolute failure of a master.

The only decent thing she has done ever is when she was literally doing what she was made for.
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>>133666321
Weak bait.
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>>133666321
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>>133663875
This anon knows what he's talking about.
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>>133663243
What's with all the hate she's getting? I like Sakura. physically.
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>>133667273
I like her more than Saber.
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>>133667273
you think it's bad, just wait till the HF movie comes out holy shit
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>>133667273
She has no confidence or sense of morals. She isn't good, she isn't bad, she isn't somewhere in the middle, she's just plain as fuck. Wants to run away from all her issues instead of solving them. She just stands there and goes "Senpai! Senpai!" for half the game and the other half has her spouting her tragic story. The only form of closure or acceptance she goes through is in the last 20 minutes of a 25 hour route.
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>>133664532
>Being a white knight who settles for overused goods.
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>>133667273
I just finished with the VN and she was the worst heroine I have seen in a while. Most of the route I had the urge to kill her just because she was annoying.
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>>133667885
Epic buzzwords, Rinfag.
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>>133667975
>Rinfag
?
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>>133667992
>i-i'm totally a, uh, saberfag!
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>>133668061
Oh it's an ebin meme, fuck off.
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>>133668098
You mean like "used goods"?
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>>133667394
I am pretty sure the movie will try to put her in a good light. Maybe she won't come out so distasteful there.
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>>133664117
Well she's only after shota dick so no worries.
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>>133668186
It's not like she looks bad in the VN either, as long as you're not CTRLing through everything that's not a fight scene.
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Why does everyone dislike Sakura anyway? Most of what she went through (worms, angra mainyu etc) wasn't her fault and if you were mentally fucked up as a child you'd probably have a similar personality.
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>>133668229
She was terrible for most of the route. Her monologues just annoyed me, her actions too.
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>>133668236
There's a difference between blaming her for shit and plainly disliking her as a character.
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>>133663243
No, pic related is.
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>>133668236
See >>133668061
It's literally just an awful forced meme that people trying too hard to fit in took seriously.
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>>133668343
No
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>>133668399
That's just a retard projecting.
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>>133668236
I'm neutral towards her. Her route was not all that special because of her but rather everything that happened towards her. I could easily see a story identical to hers but with pic related as the heroine instead. The other two routes have Saber's story, who is irreplaceable, and Rin's/Shirou's which don't work without them as major characters.
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>>133668236
I just don't like her personality
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>>133668538
>I could easily see a story identical to hers but with pic related as the heroine instead.
But Mitsuzuri is not Tohsaka's sister.
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>>133663375
>best at sex
implying
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>>133663375
>>133668710
>Superior bed demon
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>>133668645
Obviously there would need to be some changes but nothing major. If they changed her to be Rin's sister and made it so that she was the girl attacked by Rider at school, I can see a story easily branching off from that point into a Mitsuzuri-Heaven's Feel route.

It would also fit into the prologue scene where Rin and her talk about love.
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>>133668879
Oh, so basically what you said is that you think her personality played no role in the outcome of the route.
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>>133668399
My favorite F/SN heroine is Saber and I hated Sakura before I even got to her route. She's fucking annoying and I find the kohai routine grating.
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>>133668236
A big problem for me regarding her is her almost complete lack of purpose in Fate and UBW, and then come HF, I'm supposed to care about her.

I mean seriously, you could basically write out Sakura from the first two routes, and you'd lose nothing. Shirou gets his ass out of the shed and makes his own breakfast.

Saber and Rin are constants throughout the VN, they're active in the plot, and the narrative would distinctly change with their removal, but it's only come the last route where Sakura even has a reason to exist.
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>>133669008
Same here, her senpais got tiring fast.
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>>133669046
You could write her off and have Illya be the heroine of HF and it would actually make more sense.
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Can anyone but Sakura put a genuine smile on a fake's face? She's also cute as hell in the HF manga.
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>>133669255
Rin.
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>>133669255
>Taiga
>Saber
>Illya
There's plenty.
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>>133663243
lol
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>>133665179
Fucking kek
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>>133665179
I was so confused, trying to read it right-to-left
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>>133669293
>genuine
Left's fake as shit. Saber could, though.
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>>133669701
Rin made him smile lots of times.

I'm guessing you kinda wanna start a waifu war, though.
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Jason is worst Type-Moon, basically blonde Shinji.
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Don't know about the worst, but post THE BEST.
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>>133669916
Sure
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>>133669916
On it.
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>>133670039
A dead girl in an undead girl's clothes.
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>>133670039
Decided to try and main her.
It's the least I could do.
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>>133670079
True ancestors aren't undead silly

>>133670083
I tried but her playstyle doesn't mesh with me. Oh well. Still mai waifu anyways.
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The real, non-meme reasons people hate Sakura:
1) Worms, impure, educated prostitute, has fucked Shinji, etc.
2) Kills lots of people and eventually mindbreaks into not caring anymore, people consider her "evil"
3) Has an absolutely awful, boring personality, basicaly the beginning and end of the "notice me senpai" meme. Just a cutesy blob that can cook and likes Shirou, not much else there

Given the number of people that like Kohaku, the first two can be forgiven, but the third is what cinches it. Still, a lot of people also hate both her and Kohaku, so there you go.
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>>133670207
I'm digging her H-Moon. I can actually do a lot more with her than my previous main, so far so good.
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>>133670251
The third one is her biggest offender tbhfamily
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>>133670079
>>133670207
Oh, and 2d never dies.

>>133670288
Glad it works for you.
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>>133670251
Sakura is just as boring as Saber, and Rin is only slightly better.
Best heroine is Ilya.
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>>133670390
>Sakura is just as boring as Saber
Oh please, Saber being genderbent King Arthur is interesting enough.
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>>133670390
see
>>133666321
If she is best girl why is her theme a shitty German ripoff of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star?
Illya is a disgrace to everyone in her entire family. Her mother tried to protect her and how does she pay it back? Oh by trying her to kill her adopted brother over a 10 year grudge that had nothing to do with him in the first place.
She is all talk and can't back any of it up. Even Caster is more respectable.
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>>133670582
Oh look a faggot.
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>>133666321
I like Illya but actually she deserved to die in HF: she knew what was happening to Sakura (which Shirou, Rin and Sakura ignored), and let shit hit the fan without moving a finger. She's responsible for all those deaths more than Sakura who was an unwitting pawn.

In the end, she only sacrificed herself to fix the mess she consciously helped to let it reach to that state while under an hypocritical vow to be Shirou's "ally."
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>>133668538
Because Sakura's route was in ANOTHER VN with Illya's route, both were going to be victims that Shirou had to save and toss their ideals for.
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>>133669860
>>133669293
>>133669319
Ironically, the best Shirou smile in UBW was in the ending Saber stayed. That look of complete bliss and relief.
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>>133670390
>shitty twintail muh tsundere
>better than female king arthur

No, Saber was interesting all right. She didn't need to be Shirou's love interest. Also agree on Illya (who also favors Saber over Rin).
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>>133670959
>Rin is the one always trying to offer her hand to Shirou
>But Shirou offers his hand to Saber
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>>133670996
Rin is the best tsundere.
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>>133670996
>twintail muh tsundere
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>>133671187
She's a boring character with a dumb design.
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How can people hate anyone other than Shirou? He drags down Fate so much. Fuck Shirou.
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>>133671041
Rin saves Shirou, this is visually symbolized by her offering him her hand. At the same time, we know Shirou saves Saber, this too is symbolized by Shirou offering her his hand.

It all ends with three of them holding hands together.

B R A V O
R
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>>133663243
Not even of Fate. Her parents are much worse.
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>>133671239
You're boring with a dumb design.
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>>133671319
I'm 3D anon. We all are.
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>>133670830
>which Shirou, Rin and Sakura ignored
They all deserved to die. What pissed me off about the route was how happy the ending was for these 3. They disregard how they're responsible for the deaths of dozens of innocent civilians and received practically no consequences for it.
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>>133671279
So was Shirou already saved?
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>>133671566
I honestly don't think the writer cared about lives outside the cast. The dilemmas in the series just added the illusion of weight. If Shirou's choice in one route results in a child being saved and his choice in the next results in the child's death, it would have been different.
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>>133671566
>dozen "innocent" civilians
>completely missing the point of HF
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>>133671566
None of those people were innocent. That was the dilemma, the justice Saber and Shirou believed in didn't exist in a world where almost everyone is inherently evil and wished for bad shit to happen to feel better with themselves.

Sakura and Angra Mainyu were actual innocent scapegoats of those "victims" edginess. That was the moral debate Kotomine and Shirou had: was it OK to kill Angra Mainyu when he is actually an innocent being? If Angra lived, Sakura died. Shirou made himself responsible and fought for her sake while Kotomine picked Angra's side.
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>>133672468
>None of those people were innocent

There's a difference between having bad thoughts, and enacting upon them. Having the self control to not enact them is what makes us superior as a species.

A lot of the philosophy in HF felt pretty high school. "How can you judge Angra when it hasn't even been born yet?" Give me a break.
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>>133672857
No, there's not. Their "bad thoughts" are the reason that this mess happened in the same place. Stop blaming the scapegoats.

They are the real victims here.
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>>133672857
>Having the self control to not enact them is what makes us superior as a species.

Except neither Sakura or Angra Mainyu chose to hurt people. They were acting on instinct they put in them. They didn't make any conscious "choice", idiot.

If you want to punish the real responsible party, destroy the world like Gilgamesh would do.
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>>133673125
I'm sorry, the way you're writing is a little confusing. Are you advocating thought crime? Man, we all think dark thoughts every once in a while, but thankfully, it's only the select few who play those thoughts out.

The fact though that we can have these thoughts, and choose to control ourselves is what makes us better. We're not animals that just mindlessly react on instinct.
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>>133673210

You're fucking retarded: Sakura didn't have control over her actions: she was asleep and possessed by the shadow.

The Shadow was a newborn (doesn't have a consciousness or 'rationality', retard).

They are indeed INNOCENT.
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>>133668710
she's good at pleasuring men in sex. She's not good at mutual-loving sex.
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>>133673162
>They were acting on instinct they put in them

So no better than a violent animal. I mean seriously, are people actually defending Angra? I can vaguely sympathize that its existence is kind of a raw deal, But no man, you don't side with the monster that's gonna commit genocide.
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>>133673300
Because Angra was a person once whose life was fucked up by selfish people and kept being fucked up even after he died and became a bounded phenomena and even after he was summoned by a Servant he kept being fucked up.

I will kill all the worthless people in Shirou's planet for him to get a happy ending.
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Can I be honest, OP. I find Kariya to be the worst type moon character.
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>>133673275
Have I mentioned anything about Sakura?

Point I'm making is the argument that "the real evil are the thoughts of the people!" is so fucking Hot Topic.

People think bad thoughts, it's just natural, but most people don't do them. Saying they're the ones at fault, and deserve it, because some monster was unknowingly feeding off those thoughts is dumb.
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>>133673365
>I will kill all the worthless people in Shirou's planet for him to get a happy ending

Okay geez, I am dealing with someone like this.

Some people are assholes, yeah, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to commit mass genocide on people just cause of that.
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>>133673397
You said Rin, Shirou and Sakura 'deserved to die' because they are 'responsible' for the deaths of 'innocent' people >>133671566

The responsible for the deaths of those innocent people are humanity themselves. You can try to point fingers at Sakura (or her allies) or Angra Mainyu, but in the end it was humanity's fault.

To blame someone else would indeed use them as scapegoats. If you would have said "I would have killed Sakura/Angra" to stop them even if they were innocent, it's another thing. But in no way Sakura, Rin or Shirou can be blamed for what happened.
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>>133673442

All people are assholes. That's how Nasuverse rolls and works. There are only a few exceptions and if your recall HF, the Shadow first victims were a gang of scumbag rapists. We don't even know what type of people Angra ate, but it seemed lured to the evil ones more.
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>>133673275
If you have any notion of moral agency and understand that your continued existence will lead to the peril of others, then yes, you are partly responsible for it. Sakura may not have been in control of the her actions at night, but she understood the situation and accepted that her desire to live would jeopardize the lives of others. She's a victim of tragic circumstances, but to say that she's not partly responsible for those deaths is ridiculous.
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>>133663243
That'd be Azaka.
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>>133673451
Nah homie, that post's a different person. My first response is here. >>133672857

>The responsible for the deaths of those innocent people are humanity themselves

What did those people were killed during the events of HF do that was wrong? Have wrong thoughts?
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>>133673501
who were killed*
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>>133673491
If you blame Sakura, blame the people for making Angra a thing: which is whole humanity. Sakura was just a fleshy condom for their cum. But it's them who set that load.

And, by the way, she had no idea what was happening. When she found out, not only she stopped sleeping, was ready for Shirou to kill her, but also went to kamikaze herself to end Zouken after her body was butchered.
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>>133673501
>What did those people were killed during the events of HF do that was wrong? Have wrong thoughts?

For starters the only victims we saw (rather than being informed via television) were gangsters and rapist who wanted to rape and murder Sakura.
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>>133673501
We actually don't know or see who does the Shadow absorbed and feed on in Night 2 and 3. In the first night, it fed on a bunch of psychopaths.

It doesn't look like a coincidence.
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>>133673609
I'd say it's a long stretch to assume that The Shadow was some dark avenger, only taking out dicks. The whole event is never painted as something positive.
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>>133663243
Stop making these kinds of thread, anon.
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>>133673694
It's not like people knew what the Shadow was doing. Sakura feels sorry and blames herself for Shinji anyway. Because she tends to blame herself over everything.

Nonetheless, the only victims with screentime are in fact dicks who had it coming.
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>>133673671
You know I find this kind of funny. Now we got people trying to whitewash an amorphous murderous jellyfish.

I mean it's cool. He only killed douchebags. Maybe.
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>>133673746
Okay, you know, even if they're dicks, just blindly killing people isn't something that's inherently good. That's one of the morals of UBW even.

I mean Archer rants about how he was basically a glorified murderer, and even if they were "bad people", it was still pretty fucked up.
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>>133673396
Kariya is a valuable lesson for us all wasted talent, whiteknighting, delusions, not letting go and just plain being beta.
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>>133673586
It's been a very long time since I've read the vn, but I'm positive everyone and their grandmother knew about Sakura's connection to the shadow, yet refused to accept it and feigned ignorance. Anyways, we're not here to find the root of blame for the incident, only to analyze Sakura's decisions in the circumstances she was given and decide whether or not she's responsible for those deaths. Now, I feel for the poor girl, I do, and while I think that Shirou's and her choices were very human and understandable, I don't think that they made the ethically correct choice. Withdrawing from sleep just doesn't cut it when you turn into a horrible death monster the moment you snooze. It's asking for a lot, but she really should have just died like lord gilgamesh told her to and tried to do, god bless his poor soul
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Sakura is cute, CUTE!!
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>>133663243

If she is and makes it to top 10 two polls straight without a lot of exposure, what does that mean for the other hundred or so characters.

The answer is simple: she is actually one of the best, but nice bait thread bro.
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>>133673984

Problem is, her death would have ultimately been pointless. Cutting off the connection by destroying the grail at its base fixes all problems at the source, instead of having the proxy commit suicide only to still have a tainted grail. Her death is a waste.

And that lord Gil you are talking about didn't give a crap about her being the Shadow, he just wanted to have fun torturing her. He could have easily stopped the Shadow from ever appearing by destroying the grail, but he already concocted his humanity genocide plan, he just thought that he could have some fun torturing this grail by telling her to kill herself without any explanation.

Not actually typing this response for you, since you are trolling, but anyone retarded enough to think Sakura killing herself was in anyway actually the logical thing to do.
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Why didnt Shirou just go back to the restaurant and get some super hot Mapo Tofu. He could have feed it too Sakura to expunge the evil spirits inside her right?
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>>133663243
Are we talking about unlikable or badly written?
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Best girl coming through.
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>>133663243
I think Illya and Sakura share the first place for being the worst character.
Jesus Christ they are useless
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>>133663243
Worst TM character is True Assassin. And only because he's so generic and forgettable.

Saber a best, though!
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>>133671187
I find it hard to accept her as a tsundere. She's pretty much honestly gunning for Shirou's dick from the moment they meet. The only reason she holds back is because of Sakura. If anything, Shirou is the tsundere.
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>>133668236
I'm indifferent towards Sakura. She was badly written, but so is the entirety of Fate/Saty Night, anyways. Heaven's Feels as a whole is not very good, it's mostly the conclusion of everything that pissed me off.

> well Sakura you killed a bunch of people but the only punishment you get is getting scolded by Shirou and I guess being a magical landlord in your sister's place?
> And all of the relatives and friends of the people you killed will never know what happened to them but it's ok because as long as Shirou says she can redeem herself, none of their opinions matter! They're just cannon fodder anyways!

Which leads to the cringe worthy line of thought:
> Shirou's forgiveness > Sakura's own feelings on the matter > a bunch of nameless strangers that got the short end of the whole situation (who may or may not have the same opinion Shirou has about what he did)

Why even bring up that Sakura killed people and how horrible her actions are if it doesn't have any weight on the story other than give shock value through empty numbers? As far as I'm concerned, HF's is basically Sakura getting high with Angry Manjew, going on a killing spree and getting away with it because Shirou says it's ok, and apparently this is the only thing that matters. Forget about all the people that got fucked over her little drama.

It's as disturbing as watching some murderer's girlfriend say she forgives him while completely ignoring the victim or the victim's family's own opinion on the matter. Or the murderer saying it's ok he'll work to redeem himself, even though that isn't for him to decide.

More than Sakura's character, what disturbs me the most is that, more than in any route, Shirou (and by extension, Sakura and Rin) is the most self-centered prick who, in the truest sense, only cares about himself and his girlfriend. Fuck everyone else. And the worst of all? We're told this is a good end and we should feel good for them.
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>>133678837
As shit as wormslut is, it's also important to note that in HF Shirou no longer qualifies as a Good character, he switches into full Chaotic Neutral, which makes sense considering his actions afterwards,
And yes, CN can sometimes be egotistic pricks.
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>>133678837
But ideals are childish.
Your gf > random strangers
What are you? Some kind of UBW-shounentard?
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>>133678965
I would be completely ok with this if they had just not tried to push this as a good end.
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>>133663243

Nah, I'd say Saber is the worst girl. Even though I don't particularly dislike her; she's the least interesting. Sakura at least had her crazy living conditions, yandare mode and the best/hottest servant in the series.
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>>133678778
>If anything, Shirou is the tsundere.
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>>133679049
Well, it is good end for them.
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>>133679098
Is Archer a fucking giant or is Rin a midget?
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>>133663243
>Blondie mary sue for otaku waifufags
>shitty stereotypated tsundere
Trust me, she's not the worst
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>>133679238
160 is average woman height in Japan. Archer is 186 IIRC.
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>>133666321
Ilya is elder sister of Shirou, what did you expect?
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>>133679280
> shitty stereotypated tsundere
So, every main character in FSN is tsundere then?
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>>133663243
HE HATES HER
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>>133679494
I was talking about rin, I didn't say that Sakura is the best FSN character, just that she is a better character than rin and saber, they are just fanservice for shitty waifufags.
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>>133679614
All those "s-senpai" got really old really fast for me. I just dislike such type of person. That is main reason why HF is my least favorite root.
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>>133665179
Original sauce pls
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>>133669916
Why not.
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>>133679747
http://oglaf.com/homecoming/
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>>133678837
>Giving a shit about ideals
>The year 2000+15
Fucking faggots
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>>133679865
Thanks you anon
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>>133669916
Sure thing.
It's not like anyone else is going to post her.
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>>133680067
UFOtable really made Taiga manly
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>>133678837
Shirou shouldered the punishment for her. He went above and beyond to save and protect the ones he loves the most.
I find that more admirable than UBW's ideals.
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>>133679769
why is she showing her armpits again?
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Should I bother with the VN? I found that Bladeworks was almost actively dodging all of the interesting parts of the plot to wallow in boring cliches and philosophy garbage. 50 hours hours seems kind of steep though.
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>>133663243
Gilgamesh in everything other than Zero
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>>133678994
>>133679921
Children without dreams and adults without the will to make them come true. Pitiful, you haven't grown up.
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>>133680133
Saber died, Ilya died, Kirei died. Shirou failed to save those most important, he's scum.
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>>133666321
Only horny lolifags will defend this.
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>>133680067
But she's so fucking annoying.
Touko is the closest character to her who's done right, aside from Ritsuka maybe.
Remove Taiga.
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>>133670251
>1) Worms, impure, educated prostitute, has fucked Shinji, etc.
First off, she's a virgin in Realta Nua, not to mention all of the worms get removed during the route. Second, if you think getting raped makes you "impure", you need to fuck off back to /pol/. She behaves like a shy virgin, so for all intents and purposes, that's what she is.

>2) Kills lots of people and eventually mindbreaks into not caring anymore, people consider her "evil"
She only ever kills Shinji, Zouken and Kotomine (who happen to be villains). She's outright noted to have extreme mental fortitude and resilience for resisting Angra Mainyu's influence so well, even urging Shirou and Rin to escape from her so she can stop Angra Mainyu on the final day. The point of her character is that she's a good girl forced into the role of a villain.

>3) Has an absolutely awful, boring personality, basicaly the beginning and end of the "notice me senpai" meme. Just a cutesy blob that can cook and likes Shirou, not much else there
Not only is the shy girl archetype she belongs to incredibly popular among anime/manga/VN fans, but she's also one of the most developed characters in the VN, right behind Shirou/Archer and Kotomine. Saber and Rin are just your average action kuudere and twintail tsundere respectively, but Sakura had several interludes dedicated to showing the strengths and weaknesses of her personality.

So yeah, it's just memes, bandwagoning, and double standards that lead people to hate Sakura.
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>>133680992
Took you long enough.
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>>133680992
>1
>Clear example of censorship rather than rewriting
>Canon
>2
Bollocks, it's mentioned that multiple civilians get swallowed up by the shadow as well, and by extension Sakura.
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>>133671226
Why is Hisui lustful in your pic?
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>>133680148
So i can sniff them
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>>133681155
Yup, it's canon. RN is the definite version of the VN, after all.

>multiple civilians get swallowed up by the shadow as well, and by extension Sakura.
No, by extension Angra Mainyu. Sakura had no control over its actions (nor even knowledge at first, as she thought it was a nightmare), and therefore no responsibility. Blaming Sakura for the actions of the shadow is like saying that Ilya attacked Shirou while he was fighting Kotomine in Fate because Kotomine threw grail mud at him.
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>>133680133
>Shirou shouldered the punishment for her.
If he had died, I'd agree with this.
But he only lost his original body, got a new one identical to the former, and has regular threesomes with Rider and Sakura.
That's his whole "punishment".
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>>133681655
But he was fully willing to die and thought he was going to.
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>>133681655
You can thank best girl for that.
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>>133665179
>Not AM
You fucked up
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All Sakuras are best. Don't bully, you silly goose.
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>>133676599
She comes in package with Sakura. No Sakura and she turns into human devouring monster.
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>>133671187
Best tech. retarded - maybe.
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>>133680992
The only ones who hate sakura are the retarded waifufags that complain about MUH PURITY, problably they even like shitty characters like rin or saber.
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>>133682179
I like Kohaku and I hate Sakura. Purity has nothing to do with it.

Why are so many Sakurafags delusional?
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>>133682824
And that's where the bandwagoning and double standards come in.
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All Type Moon a shit except for the KnK cast. So you can say pretty much every TM character is the worst to date.
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>>133683017
>All Type Moon a shit except for the KnK cast.
>Kokutou
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>>133663574
>guy

But yes, most pointless character in probably any anime or manga.
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>>133683012
Or I just find her personality extremely irritating, you delusional faggot.
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>>133683134
And that's where the shit taste comes in.
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>>133683017
>All Type Moon a shit
I agree. Seriously, each and every TM character is shit. All of them, without exception.
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Breeding sow whose only worth is as a cum repository.
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>>133663243
Was that bitch from the fairy academy KnK movie? Worse fucking KnK movie ever.
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>>133685152
I skipped it during my last rewatch. Glasses-kun's incestuous character doesn't fit the show at all.
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>>133685152
how new?
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>>133685172

New thread
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>>133685206
Was from about 7 years ago I think.


>>133683084
>don't take the red acid
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>>133685430
What?
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>>133685445
>takes red acid
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>>133680133

>Shirou shouldered the punishment for her

Nope. She was pretty much killed and tortured the entire route, plus the true ending showed she felt guilt, then tried her best to work things out and restore the town over the years, despite being one of the prime victims of Zouken's experiments against her will.

Shirou helped her along the way, but to say she didn't have to suffer along the way for it is such bs it makes me laugh.
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>>133680133
>I find that more admirable than UBW's ideals.

I never really found anything about HF Shirou "admirable". Understandable, maybe.

In terms of like, who I'd want aspire to be more like though, it would probably be the one who follows their dream in the face of adversity.
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>>133664383
This guy.
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>>133663243
Victimblaming purityfag detected
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>>133688322
This.

#slutshaming
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Why can't type moon hire a real artist?
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>>133689110
Takeuchi came up with some of the most profitable ideas TM ever had, and at one point, I'm pretty sure he let Nasu live with him for free.

I mean he's the reason The Hisui and Kohaku routes exist, and he's the reason Saber was turned into a girl.
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>>133689247
Okay but why can't type moon hire a real artist?
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>>133689465
Pretty sure I just gave you the answer, but they do have another artist on board, Koyama.

Basically though, Takeuchi is top dog not because of his art skills, but because his help and his influence is a good chunk of the reason TM is where it is today.
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>>133689565
It's also not like Takeuchi illustrates everything anymore. They got tons of manga, light novels, and games like Extra that all got different artists. I mean they got a bunch of different people for GO. All Takeuchi seems to do now a days is run the company and do a drawing every now and then.
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>>133689999
He's also on board to draw Tsukihime, whenever that'll come.
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>>133689999
Isn't he working on Tsuki?

He better be.
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>>133690088
>>133690142
I just threw that under "every now and then" with the amount of updates we're getting of that.
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>>133689999
>we will never get another VN with music by KATE and illustrations by Takeuchi

JUST
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>>133690226
All the original composers are still involved in TM's VN work. KATE, James Harris, they've all got credits for tracks in Mahoyo, it just seems Fukasawa took over as lead sound director.
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>>133689999
Takeuchi is still the primary artist for Grand Order, responsible for drawing Artoria (+Alter), Mashu, Jeanne, Roman, Lef, and Solomon, all hugely critical characters to the storyline. He does plenty.
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kotelo stop shit talking reviewers on twitter and crunchyroll you fucking autist. you're making the whole fanbase look bad.
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>>133690728
I don't even wanna know.
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>>133687861
>then tried her best to work things out and restore the town over the years
Except that's not better than any informed attribute because we're never shown Sakura actively trying to restore the town (whatever that means, because she can't revive all those 80 people she killed). All she does is watch over it like Rin has been doing, which consists of just doing nothing unless something threatens it, if we go by the prologue. Which heavily implies that until then, she'll just be doing normal things like nothing happened. The prologue shows her living her life normally, with the only addition of having Rider around and I guess having a lot of sex with Shirou.

And seriously, feeling guilt is worth shit if she's not shown doing anything to make up for what she did. Even more, her way to "make up" for everything is to not let what happened put her down and life her life happily... Which means no, she won't do shit to make up for anything and get to spend her days having sex with Shirou and Rider. All those people got fucked over and Sakura effectively got away with it without facing any real consequences.
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>>133683360
She's a love repository for best Shirou.
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>>133690760
>all those 80 people she killed
You mean "those three villains"? She has nothing to feel guilty about, because she was just an innocent victim who was eventually able to kill the ones tormenting her and attain the happy life she deserved together with Shirou.
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>>133690760

There are some holes in your summary there. She not only watches over the city, she cleaned up the mess, while helping restore Shirou when Rin took off.

Did you not see Rin say the town was back to normal, so much so she was surprised? AM's corruption should have lasting effects on the environment, as we saw in the route, but she took care of that, and sealed the "scar" Rin talked about, which was the leyline, so the Association can't stumble on the rains of the ritual and start shit, and we know they were itching to do so when they saw the gate to Akasha open.

It was about the same as any ending, the repurcussions of the town itself aren't shown in detail. The students in UBW were shown to have needed plastic surgery due to the effects of the Bloodfort, but it's not like we got scenes of Rin visiting her classmates or bringing flowers.

Anf of course Sakura can't bring those people back. Unless you somehow think that self-flagellation or self-harm would be a better end than trying to do whatever you could and living her life now that she is free from captivity instead of spending the rest of her life hating herself. That was the message behind her words, not her brushing off what happened.
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no
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>>133695788
Nah.
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>>133693557
>she cleaned up the mess
Citation needed.
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>>133688322
>Liking used goods
Enjoy your roast beef.
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>>133668229
I allways choose to kill her because It allways felt like the best thing to do.
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>Unironically liking Sakura
Disgusting.
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>>133698317
>roast beef
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>>133698654
Riesbyfe a cute.
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>>133698654
The best.
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>>133698895
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stop bumping this shitty thread faggots
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>>133698976
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>>133698526

>you decided to kill her when a creepy priest likes it and pretty much cum in his slacks at your despair
>you decided to kill her when creepy bug geezer who experimented on said girl tells you it's the right thing, even when he all but says later on he was hoping you would to advance his plans

This is the fanbase I share, this retardation cannot be cured with all my amount of medicine.
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>>133695788
SEIBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>133663243
>Worst character
>Not Bazett
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>>133697910

Rin says the scar from two years ago is gone, meaning Sakura took care of the aftermath. You do know the ritual takes place because Fuyuki lies on a leyline that has enough distortion to create a hole to Akasha

That is the entire reason why the ritual takes place in Fuyuki. Meaning she sealed that. The only thing missing would be the details. But what we do know is Rin says that distortion is gone now.
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>>133699104
She is very annoying, I wanted her dead too.
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>>133699312
>shitbaittbhfam
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>>133681655
Lets be honest, the ending where he dies is the better one.
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>>133699323
>meaning Sakura took care of the aftermath.
That's your own fanfiction, the one who closed the hole was Illya.
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>>133699536
They're both good in their own right. True is good because it's a happy ending to all the trials all the characters had to go through and ends the whole VN on a happy note. Normal is good because it's a very sad ending to Sakura and Shirou's efforsts, but based on what this thread was founded on it'll just be people saying that it's a better ending because Sakura suffers more in it.
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>>133699797
Sakura and suffering go hand in hand.
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>>133671566
>dozens
Haha, more like hundreds.
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>>133698851
Riesbyfe is homo.
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>>133700323
>more like hundreds.
Shirou is a good hero.
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>>133699104
>not killing her for the sake of grandpa Zouken
>not killing her for the sake of uncle Mapo tofu
I liked Kirei and Zouken way more than Sakura, and since she was related to the source of evil, killing her doesn't seem like a bad thing to do.

But more seriously, everytime I had the choice to kill her, it felt like the only way to go out of the wrong path was to actually do the did(even if Rider would kill me just afterward)
and everytime, killing her resulted into a bad end, leaving with the only choice of keeping on pretending not to notice while Emiya's ideals(even if borrowed) crumble, making him look like the kind die inside(new ideals<<<<<<<hero's ideals)
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>>133685742
>>133685445
>>133683084
That shit's like, 10x more addictive than normal Marijuana.

Fuck, once I start breeding [some shit, I want to cook up a variant and call it Awakened Origin


As the stinger for Movie 6 showed, Lio Shirazumi had a major case of the munchies when he devoured that dude he murdered
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/whosakurahere/
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Taiga is a perfectly cute and lovable girl, and it is criminal how unloved she is.
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Sssssh! Saber is sleeping.
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>>133703194
Sweet dreams, my king.
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>>133703194
>>133703486
Well, wake her up, so I can bully her.
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>worst Type Moon character
>Sakura

You're forgetting someone very important.
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Can 3-Tails Tamamo beat Artoria or Gilgamesh?
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>>133705165
She can beat my meat, that's for sure.
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>>133704328
That's not Ciel.
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>>133680516
My brethren from another sire!
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