Name a single person stronger than Saitama.
Gorillas are stronger than humans.
Saitama is conflicted, so World Rejector can exile him. He desires a good fight, but at the same time wishes for the world to be safe. Those wishes cannot be reconciled, so World Rejector would erase him from this world.
Ahem. I believe you confuse me with that other chap, my good man.
But you see, I am CAPTAIN COLD!
>Gorilla Grodd and Mr Freeze
Forget about that, mister attosecond here got rekt by Deathstroke's brilliant strategy of... stabbing behind himself. If some chump with a sword and guns can defeat mister attosecond, so can Saitama.
I think there are probably a couple of anime characters who could beat Saitama, but only if Saitama doesn't know their powers and he's in a mood to hold back while fighting.
For example, a few whiffs of the Idunn box and he could become an averagely strong, thick-haired fellow once again.
Deathstroke is a calculating guy. Saitama is not. He also has fast enough reaction time to stab behind himself, where he knew Flash was going to attack. He won because he had brains, not because he had brawn.
Also there are a bunch of people stronger then mister overglorifyed here.
Saitama has yet to display anything near goku's current power. maybe in the future that will change but for now goku wins. Same with beerus whis and Vegeta.
Super buu would beat him ez as well
>people taking a joke thread about what is mostly a joke character seriously
>every power level thread in every media ever
If two characters are from the same fictional universe, you can compare their power levels. If not, then you can't.
Pre-Retcon Beyonder was fucking ridiculously strong.
He's probably the strongest man to every walk into fiction itself.
His only real weakness was how gullible an naive he was. But even then he could give himself Omniscience.
Dude was so fucking strong every hero and villain alike bowed before him.
Dude was so fucking strong animals and cells bowed before him.
Dude was so fucking strong inanimate objects bowed before him.
He was destroying the universe and all its infinite dimensions just by thinking too hard on a certain subject, and by getting a little mad.
He was basically another TOAA of his own universe, and TOAA is basically just a writer.
>If two characters are from the same fictional universe, you can compare their power levels. If not, then you can't.
You actually can, you just take their feats, be it defensive, offensive, reactions.
I mean I know Superman Prime would kill James Bond and Sherlock Holmes. Simply because I know the damage they can take and can dish.
>He also has fast enough reaction time to stab behind himself, where he knew Flash was going to attack.
Other than the elaborate set-up to lure Flash into the position he wanted himself in, there was no brainpower required. Only reflexes, which Saitama demonstrated to have against Sonic.
>B-but Flash is way, way, way, WAY faster than Sonic
If he really is mister attosecond, then he should've been able to defeat Deathstroke before he even knew the Flash was in the same room as him.
Just accept that capeshit comics are shit because the exact same character -often within the exact same continuity- is written completely differently by different authors. This is why in the context of American capeshit comics, asking whether hero X is stronger than hero Y is stupid. It literally all depends on the author. As I've demonstrated, mister attosecond can be defeated by a completely normal guy if the author is a fanboy for said normal guy.
So even by D.C.s own internal logic (or lack thereof), Saitama would be fast enough to punch him into oblivion.
But all of his power depends on his spinach consumption. Maybe if he had fallen into a field of spinach when he was an infant, he'd be on par with Saitama.
When was this discussed of? I have heard of Popeye's spinach having a timeframe of it's lasting effects, but never power based on consumption.
Besides, he keeps numerous cans in his shirt that somehow don't show out. In one episode, he had three pulled out and he could probably use more since he never said he was near to his last can. In that episode, he was just trying to each his nephews what Spinach does to you in the Popeye-verse.
Comics have the bad force known as PIS, well...every medium has it, hell it's basically an asspull.
For the Flash, well somedays he's running from here to the ends of the universe, other days he has to be nerfed in order to move the plot forward.
Hell look at pic related, the guy is Zoom, he's so fucking fast Flash can't even see him. Hell he's so fucking fast Flash had to absorb 3 other Flashes to even get a blur of him.
Yet this guy was caught by Green Lantern and tagged by fucking Wonder Woman.
Hell cross overs are even worse, remember when Mr.PlanetPuller SUPERMAN was getting his ass whooped by Venom?
>Just accept that capeshit comics are shit because the exact same character -often within the exact same continuity- is written completely differently by different authors.
That's actually the least of the problem and doesn't make individual comics bad. Just the whole thing confusing.
The thing that make comics of today bad is the fucking agenda pushing.
Manspaliner and Hater Wonder Woman
Fat pride Squirrel Girl
Black Captain America
Their progressive interracial loving
Muslim Captain Britian
>The possible trans SUPERMAN n the distance
plus #BlackLivesMatter police killer Superman
And everytime someone says this shit shouldn't be in there, they're mocked for being nerds or racists.
Be happy based nips would NEVER do this.
>Black Captain America
All the things you named are bullshit, but this is not. Female Thor is bullshit because Thor is a person and not a superhero identity, but a black Captain America makes sense. Steve Rogers will have to give up the mantle at some point (or maybe not, we all know how much comics love manipulating time. Hell, at this point Bruce Wayne should either be a senior citizen or fucking dead), so what prevents a black guy from taking over the mantle if he's a suitable candidate? It makes much, much more sense than a Muslim woman being Captain Britain (hell, even the existence of Captain Britain in the first place is fucking retarded).
In a way, that's the great irony: because capeshit is making race an issue, a black Captain America becomes bullshit. If they never even adressed the whole race issue, a black Captain America wouldn't even raise an eyebrow among all but the most /pol/ of /pol/fags.
Black Captain America was actually medical experiments. Hardly unprecedented.
But no, Female Thor is fine within the Marvel universe. Thor's power DOES come from people lifting the hammer and doing some magic shit. This has been true since Eric Masterson and Beta Ray Bill, and arguably since Marvel made the series. Bitch about that if you want, but don't try to make it a Female thing.
And yeah, Captain Britain, that's some crazy retcon shit, with Merlin and parallel worlds of Captain Britians, and Otherworld.
But I go /co on you.
And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
That whole deathstroke scene was bullshit, the fucker took his batman level plot armor in to battle and fucked the in-universe rules right up the ass
Saitama cant beat Seacat verse
Last time I saw this pic, he actually appeared on the thread.
Goku without a Doubt.
>Saitama's punches splits the clouds
>Goku's punches could shatter the universe
Time, entropy and heat death of universe will defeat Saitama.
>he creates an alternate universe where there are no monsters and nobody has hero powers as the old universe is simultaneously destroyed
how can someone fail so hard at understanding a simple character and/or the intentions of the author
Then he'd be Superboy-Prime.
Alright, which one you is responsible for this?
caught me off guard, now I can't stop laughing.
He resists. Saitama's aura is too strong.
Comics are known for PIS.
Here's your friendly neighborhood Spiderman taking on a MFTL+ dude that can at least blow the a large Star(Silver Surfer can blow a solar system).
Comic writers have said before that they dislike the term PIS in this kind of situation because they're insulting the character's guts and will and perseverance even when fighting outclassed.
ONE never said that you fucking retard.
Believing Reddit's bullshit is the last thing we need on /a/ yet faggots like you like tor repeat that.
Saitama can't big bang shit, he's barely above planet level.
>Because he resisted a weak as fuck bitch
Are you fucking serious? GER is above universe level, Tatsumaki at her best is an island buster, MAYBE.
You fucktards are hilarious, just because weaklings can't beat him doesn't mean he's invincible.
No I'm pretty sure I got it right.
The strongest punch we've seen from Saitama so far.
Goku's punches have been shown to threaten the very universe itself in Super.
>stando tries setting resistance to zero
>it fails because aura is too strong
no one in their universe had enough aura power and psychic training to resist the reset because they didn't have a regimen of training as rigorous as saitama's. they're just thugs who got a magic pokeman.
One said that Saitama's full power is half a universe buster.
Supreme Kaioshin said that if Beerus and Goku clashed 3 times the universe would be destroyed.
They clashed like 8 times and that shit didn't happen.
In her world, or in a lot of worlds, she's pretty strong.
It's only when you take into account universes with retarded power scaling, that Tatsumaki seems "weak", and even then she would still be pretty strong by comparison.
Still though. It's a far cry from threatening the ENTIRE UNIVERSE. Even if that was 1% of 1% of 1% of 1% of his power it still wouldn't even be close to universe busting.
Because Old kai stated that Goku was perfectly countering Beerus' strikes, nullifying all the energy in it.
Yes and it's not even a planet level punch. Boros was going to destroy Earth's surface, planet busting>>>>>>>>>>doing that.
Saitama's punch was stronger than that and that's it. It doesn't say anything about his power being even close to what Goku does.
Cell was capable of blowing the solar system, a character that can blow the sun can beat a planet buster with less than 1% of his power.
So what's your deal? saying Saitama was literally holding back 10000000000 BILLIONS of times? Because that's how shit being a planet buster is compared to blowing a galaxy and let's not talk about the whole universe.
>Goku was perfectly countering Beerus' strikes, nullifying all the energy in it.
How does that make sense though?
Does that mean before Goku wasn't countering perfectly? Then wouldn't the energy from that hit be going into him instead of being spread throughout
In her world everyone is pretty weak, Genos is at his best a city buster by now, Tatsumaki shits on Genos so she's at least 5 times more than that, 10 if you may. Still that's only mountain level.
The top tiers like Boros or Garou are not even close to planet level.
Fucking Nardo can do more than what Boros does. And he has some hax on top of that.
You misunderstand. There first 2 clashes it was simply punching each other. the angle could of been off slightly, meaning not all the energy was directed at each other. This leftover energy was sending out shockwaves that shook the universe. Later Goku lines up his fist with Beerus' perfectly. So that 100% of the energy was being directed at each other and not outwards towards the universe.
Also, it's anime, it won't make perfect sense
Boros can life wipe the entire planet with his cannon. Tatsumaki is also way stronger than you're giving her credit for.
>saying Saitama was literally holding back 10000000000 BILLIONS of times?
Why not? He has no reason to go all out, if one of his punches could accidentally break the planet.
No upper limits to his power has really been defined yet, and any time it looks like he might have been serious turns out that he was holding back, and just giving his enemy a chance.
That's kinda small-scale compared to what people in DBZ do on a daily basis, is what he's saying.
Well he did say that that punch was "Serious" implying he did use some power in it. I don't doubt he couldn't potentially destroy the planet but scaling that up to the universe is way too far fetched.
>Boros can life wipe the entire planet with his cannon
Yes that's exactly what he said, destroying earth's surface is multi continent level. Destroying earth's surface is nothing compared to blowing a planet. It's even weaker than blowing the moon.
>Tatsumaki is also way stronger than you give her credit for
I already read all of OPM so far I know what Tornado can do.
And that feat is city level. Like I said, Genos is a city buster, Tatsumaki shits on genos. She's at least 5-10 times stronger than Genos, that only makes her around mountain level.
>, it doesn't make sense than after him no one could do that
Not on the Goku side of things but-
Majin Buu was a threat to the entire universe
Broly was a Galaxy Buster
and Beerus is... well. Beerus.
But let the record be fucking shown that Goku, and Vegeta even with all their godly Ki shit cant survive a Planet being busted.
So yes Saitama could kill Goku in one punch if he was Super serious about it.
But on the other hand
>Heroes fighting other heroes for nor reason
Y'all should go fuck yourselves/
Because it was serious series.
You can wank him all you want but you can't go from
>I was serious but not so serious less than planet level punch
>I'm serious so this is 1000000000000000 BILLIONS of times stronger punch.
That would put him on galactic level.
Saying that is retarded.
They can't survive space indefinitely, they have no problem with a planet exploding.
Both Goku and Vegeta have shown the ability to survive outer atmospheres (basically space) for long periods of time. And there is also the "Saiyan shield" that Vegito used inside Buu which protected him from being fully absorbed. Broly also used this when he fell in lava. So it's safe to assume that Goku and Vegeta could survive space for a long time until they had to breath. But since Goku has IT and can always go to King kai's, New Namek, and now Beerus castle, he'll be fine.
Majin Buu was a threat to the universe in the sense that he was dangerous, he only destroyed one planet at a time.
Broly is not canon.
And there's always ways to invent reasons for characters to fight, like a tournament multiversal or some shit and they don't care about dying because they have dragon balls in their universe.
I think you underestimate just how much of a joke it has to be in order to go from "disturbing the planets atmosphere" to "potentially destroying the universe.
It's such a large degree it's almost impossible to imagine.
They can't breath in space sperg. Frieza back in namek is capable of surviving a planet exploding and he was mutilated by goku.
Do you even read dragon ball? Are you stupid or something?
Hell he even blows the planet in RoF BECAUSE he can breath in Space.
>Planet being busted
>Vegeta died because he couldn't breathe.
A man who got shot in the head didn't die because he got shot in the head he died because air got into the wound.
>they have no problem with a planet exploding. Goku when fighting Beerus was in the Stratosphere, it's not basically space, the air is thin up there but Goku could still breathe. And I'm pretty sure Saiyan shields have some limit of force don't they?
Vegito doesn't count considering he was Leagues stronger than Buu, he only got absorbed because he was fucking around too much.
Because it's a comedy and it's hilarious.
Just because something is funny doesn't mean it's not serious you sperg.
The serious sidehops are just sidehops made by Saitama, they are in the end just sidehops.
You are retarded. Here are some arguments:
A single punch from Saitama which wasn't at his strongest is more powerful than a single punch from SSJ God Goku.
>threaten the universe
Can I see the evidence.
Not him but here.
Also see this >>133589484
He meant to get absorbed. He knew that Goten, Gohan, Trunks and Piccolo were all still alive and went in to rescue them. And Goku and Vegeta now are probably stronger than vegito since when Goku first fought Beerus he stated not even fusing would be a match for him.
Lupin. He'd find a way. He always does.
>power level retards
Dbz has always had retarded power levels with little to no thought put into those powers
Hell even i could make a character who could blow multi universes because i said so
This is stupid
The point is comparing power level is retarded opm just parodies this
Nice bait anon, DBS surely didn't happen.
Vegeta's galick ho was able to planet bust back in Saiyan Saga. That's ten times stronger than Boros' shitty cannon
A single punch from saitama not at this stronges IS NOT EVEN PLANET LEVEL. What a fucking joke.
You're joking right? Have you not watched any of Dragonball super? Old Kai states it. The narrator states it. Even Whis knows it could happen.
the punches Saitama is throwing is around the level of destruction that Goku could cause during the Saiyan saga.
Reminder that his anger can bring him back from the dead.
Just because someone in canon states it doesn't make it true. The feat must be shown otherwise you would believe when a reporter calls Hercules the strongest man on the planet. Fuark.
I'll reply to your bait.
Beerus nullifies all the energy that condensed in his fight with Goku later, he taps into his 100% and nullifies a power that would destroy the universe.
Fair enough, I concede to that arguent.
Frieza survived because Goku pretty much let Frieza get away didn't he? The breathing in space thing is kind of irrelevant there?
The NARRATOR says it. the guy who EXPLAINS THINGS TO THE VIEWERS. So I'm pretty sure what he's saying is true. Not to mention Old and Kibito Kai oversee the ENTIRE universe so I assume they know what they're talking about too.
Are you stupid? Namek went BOOM and Freeza went flying to space, there his father found him and healed him.
The explosion didn't kill him and he was heavily mutilated before that.
They die because they can't breath, not the explosion. Unless you want to say Freeza is more durable than them.
>A single punch from saitama not at this stronges IS NOT EVEN PLANET LEVEL
>Beats a planet busting attack
>Not planet level
>That's ten times stronger than Boros' shitty cannon
I'm not even on the Saitama side but damn you sound butthurt.
>Beerus nullifies all the energy that condensed in his fight with Goku later, he taps into his 100% and nullifies a power that would destroy the universe.
Great, what evidence is there that the power would destroy the universe OTHER THAN CHARACTERS STATING IT? it didn't actually destroy anything as far as I could tell.
That's still hyperbole until we see it. Just like saying Saitama has planet busting power is hyperbole until we see it.
AHAHAHAHAHA. Boros says his attack will destroy earth's surface. That's not planet busting you retard, it's not evne close. It's multi continental level, lower than blowing the moon.
Hell are you even reading the thread? We already went through this.
>All this reaching
Goku is a Universe buster deal with it.
Until we see it? We did see it! You saw the shockwaves! it showed planets, asteriod belts, stars being destroyed! The ball of energy exploded and light filled the entire universe! on earth and on Elder kai's planet which was light years away! You're literally denying what we SAW HAPPEN. Beerus even states the HE stopped it from destroying everything.
This is like looking at a red wall and saying "Well we don't know it's red unless it proves it's red"
You're not even trying with your bait now anon.
stop using words if you don't know what they mean.
The narrator, the gods, the other gods and the faggot that teaches gods how to fight.
Saitama hasn't shown his full power yet. Even Boros says he was holding back with the serious punch.
You can say that Saitama and Beerus share something in common in which they've yet to find opponent which they can fight at 100%. While we know not how much percentage Saitama used against Boros, based on Boros's dialogue, Saitama is more likely to be using less than 50% of his full power.
tl;dr everything Saitama's done so far isn't at his full power. He will when he finally finds one who can match him toe to toe. Against Goku, it's a big maybe because of that trump Saitama has (his full power) which we know nothing about, yet.
How about Whis saying it? Who is stronger than both the kais, goku and Beerus?
I feel like all powerlevel threads should be until after both respective series' ends.
Because both Goku and Saitama are going to do a bunch of crazy shit in their own meantime.
Come to think of it this entire thread is a falseflag.
Yeah he could still hold back being "serious"
But even then, it implies he TRIED during that punch. It may not be 100%, but there was effort behind it. Even if it was less than 50%. EVEN IF IT WAS LESS THAN 1/100,000,000,000 OF A PERCENT it still wouldn't be CLOSE to universe busting.
Powerlevel threads should be moved to >>>/trash/ on sight since it's stupid to compare between shows that follow different rules and settings, so the 'discussions' all just derail into 'my fav character is stronger than yours'.
>it showed planets, asteriod belts, stars being destroyed!
Right, so the Earth is just ultra fucking durable then? Like I said, I don't remember seeing those shock-waves destroy anything.
>stop using words if you don't know what they mean.
I don't think you know what it means. It means they are exaggerating, which is true until we see it.
>the strength of someone determines the truth of their claims
Oh look another answer. Whis was on earth. Whis was protecting the planet because Beerus promised he would not destroy earth if he won.
So you refuse to believe 1. A god who's job it is to oversee the universe. 2. A being more powerful than the god THREATENING said universe and with near omniscient awareness of the universe. and 3. The narrator OF THE FUCKING SHOW WHICH HAS NO REASON TO LIE OR USE HYPERBOLE.
The only idiot here is you.
Who says Saitama's serious punch was supposedly at a universe busting level? No one ever said Saitama reached that kind of destructive unless you believe that rumor his full powered One Punch is equivalent to the Big Bang (which we all know it was shit).
It's clear Saitama knows his own strength and just adjusted his punch just enough to defeat Boros while minimizing collateral damage. See his spar fight with Genos and him smashing the Meteor.
Saitama's serious punch against Boros wasn't planet busting level, let alone universe busting, but it's not even at full strength either. No one can assume his 100% punch is either one until Saitama actually does it. But so far, no one has pushed Saitama to throw that kind of punch and see it's full impact.
I feel like Goku and Saitama would actually be great friends.
>Both completely unremarkable except for the fac tthat they're godly strong
>Both looking for a fight with a worthy opponent
>Both don't get Credit for the work they do to save the universe
Fuck wait a second why isn't their more DBZ x OPM crossover art?
>King & Mr. Satan
>Genos and Android 18
>BANG AND ROSHI
I'M HARD THINKING ABOUT THIS ALREADY.
fuck you powerlevel faggots not seeing the big picture.
Anyone on that list to the right, like this one posted
Listen man, unless there is empirical evidence shown in the anime it's hyperbole.
I don't believe any characters in any show or game stating anything about ability especially when in a versus setting considering we can only compare FEATS NOT CONVERSATIONS.
A God in versus situations means FUCKING NOTHING ONLY FEATS.
So I've been wondering, when Saitama destroyed the Meteor did he intentionally do so in such a way that the rubble didn't actually wind up killing anyone, or was that just a gag about how in hero stories cities get blown up on a routine basis but all the buildings that get knocked down in the fights are conveniently empty?
They're both hilarious too.
Whatever faggot, show Goku doing more damage with one punch than this.
Oh look, another thing you're wrong about.
If We're talking a plain Martial Arts fight, Bang is definitely more technical, and possibly more durable. But Roshi has gimmicks man. Afterimage and stuff. Roshi also if went all out is probably stronger physically.
That's the point jackass. He didn't punch them. He punched Beerus. This was COLLATERAL DAMAGE.
It would be pretty hard to be someone that you can barely look at.
technically any higher-power god figure can beat saitama
if he doesn't have anything to punch, he can't win
if the higher power is omnipotent, it can just think "I'm going to unmake saitama from existence" and it will happen
Roshi will just punch him into oblivion.
Are you high? Roshi can blow the fucking moon at full power. He uses Ki to defend himself, bang is definetely not more durable than him.
About more technical, we don't know that. Roshi is a master of all martial arts and he teached Goku, Band is a master of his own martial art or something? Can't remember.
Point being, we can't know who's better with martial arts. We can know who's stronger though.
Wonder if you'll ever get tired of being wrong.
This is the screenshot of the punch that caused the shockwaves.
They are punching each other.
So it's safe to assume bot hare generating about 50% of the energy. As you saw, multiple asteroids were destroyed. Half of them were because of Goku. Which is objectively stronger than Saitama punching one considering Goku destroyed multiple without even touching them.
Given from the manga of both I would say that Bang is easily the better Martial Artist, but Roshi Trumps him in basically every other aspect.
Maybe if Bang threw down a Porno Mag he could beat him while he's distracted.
Are you retarded? DB characters FIGHT with Ki, it's what powers them up. Without ki they wouldn't even be alive, everything has Ki in DBverse.
You can't take their Ki away.
A very strong human has let's say a powerlevel of 10, that's because as he gets stronger his Ki passively gets stronger. That's the wall for normal humans, but when they learn to actively control Ki they can grow millions of times more than that.
And you said
Anyone else find the idea of including a character whose full capabilities are completely unknown in a power wanking contest against a character whose capabilities are easily quantifiable and able to be support with evidence from the source material to be completely batshit fucking retarded?
But.. that's true though.
Each Kai is in charge of a Galaxy. Then again Goku to destroy the universe would also be destroying Heaven and Hell.. which are different planes of existence.
Why is the DBZ verse a fucking snowglobe by the way?
Another thing Super proved wrong. Here Goku scans the universe searching for Vegeta. 5-6 Galaxies are shown. Even though it doesn't prove it any bigger, it does prove the 4 galaxies theory false.
Also given that in one of the early DBS episodes it showed that Bulmas party ship was in the Caribbean, it shows that it takes place on "our" earth and is safe to assume in "our" universe.
The Flash makes no sense. They constantly retcon him, because they need him to be retardedly fast, yet if he's as fast as he should be, no one other than someone with speed force powers would ever even be able to move a nanometer in a period of time that would seem like a century to him.
The point is to show the punch.
Because of showings? Roshi is the best martial artist in the world, he's a legend between fighters.
Just because Toriyama doesn't make him do overly fancy moves doesn't mean he's bad with martial arts. It means Toriyama doesn't want to make him do martial arts.
Hell Goku was a master of Kung Fu or some shit even before the story started, you pretty much never see Goku do fancy stuff but he can't be a master if he doesn't know how to do shit.
Even if you use no limits fallacy he is still kinda a brick.
So nah not really, fucking hell guys like Popeye and Mxy are even used.
Fuck even Squirrel Girl.
It's just a stupid pointless discussion in a place that is full of stupid pointless discussions.
So it's no big deal to get butthurt about it. Hell getting butthurt about it, now THAT'S retarded.
>Because of showings?
Well yes generally that's how feats are presented.
>Toriyama doesn't make him do overly fancy moves
Fuck you yes he does, don't undermine Roshi.
>Roshi is the best martial artist in the world
He was beaten several times in dragonball. Plus if he really was the best then Crane school wouldn't exist.
Man that guy's not even an OPM fag, he's just shitposting.
Here's the answer to the question "Is [character] stronger than Saitama/would they beat him in a fight?"
Saitama's power level = X^googolplex^googolplex×googolplex+1
[character]'s power level = X
The joke is Saitama will always be too strong. Discussion on his power level is pointless.
Unless Saitama is somehow immortal, Yuyuko can kill him merely by thinking about it.
Elder Kai said the reason that happened is because there is a difference in the punching power between Goku's and Beerus's (Goku throwing the weaker punch), with the shockwaves destroying parts of Universe 7 as an indirect result. It's only when Goku's punches finally match Beerus's that it cancels out (though only because Beerus wasn't fighting at 100% at all and intentionally nerfs himself to match Goku's level).
Then the two just brawl it out next episode with no impact on the universe. That was more of lazy writing than a thorough explanation on why it was the case. Don't expect a scenario like this to happen again in Goku's fight with Golden Frieza or any other opponent in the future.
Also worth noting Goku and Beerus are fighting using God Ki whereas Saitama has none. That said, much of the fights Saitama is placed has him leaving the battle pretty much unscathed. As Genos suspects Saitama's power comes from more than his strength training, we can surmise there's something inside Saitama that makes him resistant to virtually whatever is thrown at him - and that include Ki blasts.
Saitama can withstand a kick with the force capable enough to send him to space and smash into the moon in less than a few seconds, without breaking a sweat or taking in damage. He then JUMPED OFF THE SURFACE OF THE MOON with enough force to return back to earth in 8 seconds.
Mean while, Goku gets kicked by Beerus and he is already hurt.
Check, fucking, mate.
When did Elder Kai state that Goku was throwing a weaker punch? I have no reccollection of that.
Beerus was even surprised when Goku cancelled out his punch.
Yeah, kicked by a guy who could BLOW UP THE UNIVERSE.
Keep trying. Fuck your checkmate
That looks like Magic.
Sure. Beerus would destroy the world to beat Saitama. Check fucking M8. In that case. Freeza would beat Saitama too.
But if it was a LEGIT 1v1 strength fight, RIP Beerus.
The strongest attack Saitama was ever hit with was a "planet surface" destroying attack. And that took effort for him to stop and left his fingers a little bruised.
Goku can send a blast far FAR more powerful than that. And has survived hit more powerful than that unscathed.
>>prove it fag
>>lol I don't have to nerd its the joke
That's basically what we call a concession.
At that point you basically walk away knowing you're right. Then you fap and forget about it all.
In Episode 10 or so, Elder Kai stated that if the two clashed punches three times, the Universe is destroyed.
When it didn't, Elder Kai explained Goku's punches finally matched with Beerus's to cancel the effects. This heavily implies that the shockwaves emitted in the first two punches was due to the inequality of punching power between the two. And since Goku managed to cancel out the shockwave from the third punch onward, it's clear Goku's throwing the weaker punch earlier until he gets more used to his God Ki and increased it further to match Beerus's.
I explained this. It wasn't because one punch was weaker. It was because all the energy wasn't being channeled directly into on another. The fact that Goku could MATCH said force proves that he was either 1. partially responsible for the energy threatening the universe and/or 2. Completely capable of producing the energy himself since he is able to cancel it out perfectly.
Actually it's from the simple fact that Beerus says Goku's power keeps growing.
Hell in the 3rd punch a fucking dragon stand straight out of JoJo comes out their bodies and their aura grows like 3 time in size.
In short, Goku's punches are incapable of destroying the universe unless when clashed with another character whose God Ki is either lower or higher than his. If Goku where to clash punches with Golden Frieza, and the latter has no God Ki, then it will not produce a similar effect as when against Beerus.
So if Saitama and Goku where to clash punches, Goku's punch won't obliterate Saitama, nor destroy the universe. Whether Saitama's punch can affect a person with God Ki, however, that's a different story.
>City level telekinetic manages to seize Saitama's body and vibrate his muscles against his will.
Damn, then a universal level entity will fuck him up something awful. Neat. Shit, i'd say basic Dr.Strange level dudes would ruin him, that's pretty dull.
>Won't obliterate Saitama
What? Why not?
When Goku fought Beerus the first time he beat him with a flick and a chop. And Goku had no God ki at that point.
Saitama not having God ki simply means HE cannot produce those shockwaves.
The fact that you DragonBall fags are arguing about whether Goku would win against a gag character whose whole premise is that he is a parody of shonen power creep shit is an irony completely unprecedented unto itself.
Or trying to use objective feats of 2 different character in 2 different universes to determine the stronger of the two.
You literally entered this thread to complain about the premise of the thread.
That's called being a faggot.
Can't believe no one's mentioned this yet. Saitama can't beat <spoiler>the cock</spoiler>
>knowing you're right
But the thing is, they are completely correct. Saitama would be immune because jokes. This is why these fucking threads are pointless other than to laugh at people taking it seriously.
So in other words OPM needs to go through several decades of egregious power creep to have feats on the level of goku.
Unless ONE just has him punch some omnipotent thing in a filler chapter.
What are Saitama.speed feats?
>But the thing is, they are completely correct.
>Saitama would be immune because jokes.
Ok then prove it, he wasn't immune to being BFR'd he had to jump back, wasn't immune to oxygen deprivation and wasn't immune to Tatsumaki's Telekinesis just resistant.
Here's the thing, you can't. You'll push your own head cannon into it and that's not a debate at all. I could say Natsu wins against DemonBane due to the power of friendship giving him a boost. Or Batman pulls the anti DemonBane spray and wins.
But I can't, because gimmicks don't mean a thing here, hell Saitama is actually a weaker Arale.
So go ahead, post your non-proof so I can take it as a concession.
>Or trying to use objective feats of 2 different character in 2 different universes to determine the stronger of the two.
This is exactly why you're retarded.
>not seeing the thread as a joke
Explain then why Goku can't produce the same result when fighting Golden Frieza. Even with a partial amount of God Ki, Goku should be able to produce the same amount of damaging power as Beerus has to him as a Super Saiyan 3. But not only was Frieza in his Golden Form able to match Goku's Super Saiyan Blue form DESPITE the total absence of God Ki, but also shows that Frieza is shown to surpass Goku's.
The only reason Frieza lost was because the Golden Form as a time limit (least in the movie. Expect a different scenario in DBS).
You can't say Goku at that time was holding back for the Universe's sake because of how much of a threat Frieza is - plus it is against Goku's character to hold back on such a fight. Toriyama clearly states that because of Goku's pride of going all-out he becomes an indirect threat to the world itself.
So if Goku were to clash punches with Saitama, like his fight with Golden Frieza, it will not result with the shockwaves from the Beerus fight, nor kill Saitama. The most likely effect would be, depending on Saitama's resistance to all this, is to pin to a point of incapacitation.
A death battle like Goku vs Superman will not happen in Goku vs Saitama.
Again, Saitama appears to have complete control on the amount of power he throws in his punch, which means he can focus the punch for even further impact and even redirect the force of it beyond the target at the same time if he wants to (again his sparring match with Genos shows this). The jury is still out there on how powerful Saitama's punch truly is at full strength, but it's a naive to think even at that level, it would not even land a dent on Goku.
Saitama would lose to Team Rocket. Saitama has literally no defense against Team Rocket's Kangaskhan stealing robot. Team Rocket has bombs and nets what does Saitama have. Fucking bullshit thats what. Plus he looks like shit. He has no style and his stupid bald head looks faggy as fuck with his bitch ass cape. Also Team Rocket has Meowth because he is technically part of the team. Double Slap>One Punch. And he can stack Evasion and Sand Attack and then Saitama can't even pucnh any of them. GTFO bitch punchboi. Team Rocket is canon way stronger then OPM how many times have they fallen from the stratosphere and didn't even get hurt. The people in OPM universe may die in one punch but they have no where near that kind of tankiness. If Saitarrhea punched James he would probably break his pansy wrist. You faggots have gone to far shitting up this board with your ironic bald faggot. OPM is gayer the HxH and probably has the same reddit fujo shit boy fanbase. Smh desu senpai.
Simon the Digger in Super Tengen Toppa form.
He is capable of creating a drill out of his own blood that can literally destroy universes, and uses it to kill the gestalt manifestation of an entire alien race fused together. He's like One Punch Man except his punch cracks holes in galaxies.
Even so, it's doubtful Goku throwing a 100% punch against Golden Frieza would produce the same shockwave as it was against Beerus for the simple fact that Frieza's training to reach that form does not include the use of God Ki, yet has him at the advantage power wise against Goku's. Until DBS shows how it turns out, we can only use the scenario from the movies.
So Goku can't One Punch Golden Frieza in this case, not likely a result can be found against Saitama, because of the latter's unique resistance. Enough to pin him down is the most likely scenario.
The only thing Saitama and Beerus have in common is that they both seek out opponents that match their strength at full power. Neither one has ever found that person yet, therefore, we will never see them at 100%.
>Downed by wrist laser
Sure thing sunshine.
It's like how Houdini could take a punch from any man no matter how strong in the stomach and not flinch, but he died because a strong ass dude punched him as hard as he could when he wasn't paying attention. Basically his force fields were down.
>how to pretend you know more than everyone else: the post
Goku isn't a universe buster, his serious fight with golden frieza causes next to no collateral damage up until frieza destroys earth.
If he was a universe buster their battle would have wrecked the galaxy.
>b-but he wasn't actually trying
A fucking wrist laser put him down, there is no pardon for being downed by what should essentially be a child's toy in the face of a Universe buster.
>I know the rules of Dragon Ball more than it's creator
If Toriyama says he needs Ki and that he needs to pay atention then he needs Ki and he needs to pay attention.
Better Man. Better Man is better than everyone at everything automatically. He is better at beating an opponent in one punch than One Punch man. Also he is an intangible concept that exists in both reality and the fictional world.
>Yea dude there's a black Superhero what keks! such progressive SJWs xDDDd lol fuck those guys glorious Nippon wouldn't colorize my cartoons!
>Implying that Whor is Rule 63 Thor
Pretty sure there was Lady Thor before. Current Thor is basically a woman that calls herself "Thor" because she have the hammer. She's not THE Thor
(she's Jane Foster who have cancer, because reasons), she's modern person that thinks like SJW but talks like Thor with ye olde Englishe for some retarded reason.
Goku is about pushing his limit further and further. He's Garou.
Superman is a man who have no limits, because his body have all limits broken. He's Saitama.
Superman beats Goku. Saitama beats Garou. Therefore, Goku can't beat Saitama.
>Fuck wait a second why isn't their more DBZ x OPM crossover art?
Whoops. I'll say when that should come.