Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1294

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Time spent shitposting is time spent not studying. If you're about to engage in a silly argument or off-topic discussion, close the thread instead. Use your time productively!

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all.

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Reminder to do your reps Every Day so that you don't become a washed-up Poi!

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かぽーん
おやすみ
おにいちゃん

ロックンロール

>>133561558
It's very important you try to study every day. Daily study is the key to language learning

tfw too lazy to write journals

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あなたが日本語は無理だ。諦めなさい〜。

>>133562077
Why would you want to?

>>133561809
ロックンロールは鳴り止まないっ!!

>>133562183
Because I'm already good at listening and reading but shit at writing and speaking

>>133561802
永遠に寝ろ

>>133562133
それをミームにしようとするならせめてカタコトをなおしてください
こうだと醜いし説得力がこれっぽっちもない

>>133561558
>Do you take any day off from studying japanese or you study everyday?
>and how much do you study?
I study daily. I spend around an hour and a half on Anki (reviews and new cards + custom study session of today's forgotten cards at the end of the day), and probably about 20 minutes on writing kanji.

Going to start reading and mining soon though, so the above is subject to change. I'll still study every day though because one day off can quite easily turn into two days off, then three, four... a week... a month... etc.

>>133562371
むしろその方が説得力あると思うけど？

>>133562434
うんん、確かにある意味そうかもな

鳥島って、いい響きの苗字だな
どっかで鳥島さんって人いるのかな、鳥島鴇羽とか

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>青空
>あおぞら
>ステージ
何のために？

>>133562840
It'd be read
このステージには
It's an stylistic choice and it provides a double meaning, explanation or additional context to name a few examples of why it's used.

Is there any site like omegle where i can talk to random Japanese people?

>>133563960
Yes, it's called skype

or chat rooms.

>ミイラ取りがミイラになる
何その例え？支離滅裂すぎだろう

>>133564055
>支離滅裂
新しい言葉習っちゃった

>>133563997
not him, but what chatrooms? I can only find 1-on-1 stuff, but I'd much rather it just be a big group of people all talking

is there an up to date dictionary about slangs? I'm seeing plenty of abbreviations whose meaning go over my head

>>133564816
Such as?

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who's ready for the JLPT? as far as I know it is really hard, any of guys will present it in a few weeks?

>>133563960
ニコ生で雑談枠行ってみたら

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>anki reviews
kill me now

>>133564670
ニコ生 streams

>>133564907
Is it free?

>>133564907
I don't see the point

VNs and audiobooks are my test

harooo

>>133564951
You'll do them and you'll like them, you little slut.

>>133564907
Are you taking it? Which level?

>>133564961
>during every funny scene
>WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW(・ω<) (;´ρ`) (;´д｀) (；◔ิд◔ิ) (｡･_･｡) (｡･ˇ_ˇ･｡) (｡･ω･｡) (｡･Д･)ゞ (｡◕ฺˇε ˇ◕ฺ｡） ₍₍ ◝(●˙꒳˙●)◜ ₎₎ （[∂]ω[∂]） (」`o´)」(／`o´)／ (」・ω・)」(／・ω・)／ (＠´,,・ω・,,｀＠) (＠'ω'＠) (* Ŏ∀Ŏ)･;ﾞ.:’;、 (*｀･ω･)ゞ (*｀益´*) (*´･ω･)(･ω･｀*) (*´ω｀*) (*´ω｀*) (*＾＾*) （*＾-＾*） (*・〜・*) (*・ω・) (*‘ω‘ *) (*∂ω∂*｀) (*∩ω∩) (*≧∀≦*) (*ﾟÅﾟ；*) （*థ౪థ） (*ﾟｪﾟ*) (*ﾉ∀`*) (*ﾉ∀◕ฺ*)σ (/ω＼) (つд・) （#＾ω＾） (#•v•#) (•̥̀ ̫ •̥́) (•^u^•) （•_•） (〃･ิ‿･ิ)ゞ (° o°)! (°o°:) (=ＴェＴ=) (＝ω＝.) (>｡<;)y-~ (∞ ั ⊝ั ) (∩´･ω･`)⊃ (≧Д≦) (╬＾д＾)凸 (●´⌓`●) (●´ω｀●)ゞ (●￣(ｴ)￣●)ゞ (●￣ω￣●)ﾉ (●'ｗ'●) (◕‿‿◕｡) (◕ฺ ▿ฺ ◕ฺ) （◞‸◟） (◡‿◡*) (ฺ◣д◢)ฺ ( Д ) (´∀｀艸)　 (óò)ﾉ (‿)ノ ( ﾟдﾟ ) (╹◡╹) (◕ ‿◕ฺ)ノ))｡₀: *ﾟฺβyё βyёฺﾟ*:₀ (◖◡ ◗) (ฺ◕ฺ‿◕ฺ） (ฺ◡ฺ‿ฺ◡ฺ) (〒ó〒) (íoì) (o^冖^o) (o'ω'o) (òロó) (oﾛo)!! (ò皿ó) (p*･ω･`*q) (p*･ω･)p (pдq｀｡) (T^T) (ｙ^ω^ｙ) (ΦωΦ) (ლ╹◡╹)ლ (ㅎωㅎ*) (ᇴ‿ฺᇴ) (つ´,,・ω・,,`)つ (っ´ω`ｃ) (っ*´∀｀*)っ (つД・) (つД⊂) (ノ)ω(ヾ)　o＜´ω｀＞o　(((･ω･))) (ヾﾉ･∀･`) (ヾﾉ'д'o) (ー∀ー；) [>=<] ༼ꉺɷꉺ༽ (　´・ω) (´・ω・) (・ω・｀)

>>133565025
>funny
Do you mean when people shout for no reason?

>>133564951
一号最高！
三号最悪

>>133564990
No, it is not. I don't remember what it costs though, sorry.

I always found it tedious that you have to write わこ every time a session starts. Also why the fuck can't they let them stream longer than 30 minutes?

>>133565058
That's funny for Japanese people. They have a terrible sense of humor.

Also:

>women putting on fake anime girl voices
>terrible potato quality streams
>"please become a member to watch this stream"

It's not as bad as Twitch, but it's pretty fucking bad

>>133565111
Twitch is an objectively better site in every single way.

>>133565134
>facecams
>facecams
>facecams
>fake "radio voices" out the fucking ass
>DONATE TO ME DONATE TO ME
>THANK YOU FOR THE FOLLOW
>THANK YOU FOR THE SUBSCRIPTION
>PLEASE SUBSCRIBE AND FOLLOW
>Follow Notification!
>Follow Notification!
>Subscription Notification
>Donation Notification

It really, really is not

>>133565134
if you hide the chat and watch a specific channel instead of browsing through them, then yes

>>133565179
That's a terribly generalization. The best streamers interact with chat and shout out those who support them. Not really that bad. Twitch streamers are the vacuum salesmen of the 60s.

>>133565093
Fuck it then

>>133565068
>三号最悪
あんたファゴットでしょうね
ともあれ、最悪なのは四号に決まってるじゃん

>>133565179
You forgot

>doesn't charge you to watch in a resolution higher than 360p
>doesn't charge you to watch streams with more than a dozen viewers
>has multiple ways to watch without using Flash Player
>wasn't made by japs

Anyone have one of these?

http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Practice-Notebook-squares-campus/dp/B0012OPELS

Anyone use fountain pens that could give any advice on them?

>>133565265
The blatant jewing is a complete dealbreaker for niconico. I really can believe how they put up with this shit.

>>133565243
The best streamers have barely any viewers to interact with, because the twitch community is full of ADHD ridden, teenage memelords who only watch facecams and overreactions

Finding those is hard though because they're hidden among literally thousands of idiots wanting to make a career out of playing video games

Alright enough about twitch, lets see if you guys can answer a simple question. How do you read: 超電磁砲

>>133565275
Seems a bit expensive for some graph paper

>>133565343
ちょうでんじじゅう
t. rikaisama pro

>>133565343
超電磁砲

ちょうでんじほう

>>133565300
>I really can believe how they put up with this shit.
Because they are xenophobic and only use Japanese products, including websites

>>133565343
Probably レーロガン or some shit

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今日は手書きを練習しましたか

忘れないで下さい、手書きは日本語を学ぶの大事な部分であるよ。

>>133565399
>>133565380
The answer is Railgun

>>133565343
レールガン

>>133565414
i agree (´・ω・`)ｂ

>>133565414
手書き面倒くせ〜
パソコン時代だから別によくね

>>133565414
お前にそう言われたら逆にそう信じないことになる

How do you guys do your vocab reps?

1. Do you try hard to remember what a word means before pressing "again" or do you do so shortly after noticing that the meaning is not obvious?
2. When finding a unknown kanji in a word, do you stop to search what it means on jisho (or equivalent) before carrying on?

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I want to know how other /a/nons study.

>>133565330
How to find more qts like this?
https://jii.moe/V1qeX3-Xg.webm

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>>133565414
がんばるぞい・・・なのん

Question!
Please translate this.

Steins Gate

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>>133565414
I have 140 sheets of paper full of 200 handwritten kanji each because I still handwrite each kanji review

>>133565414
日本語出来ないのに手書きの練習してどうする

>>133565478
Is she playing that game at 5 fps or something?

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boo

>>133565471
I just look at the kanji for 2 seconds and show it. reps are too boring
Usually I only search for individual kanji to look at the radicals used. This is what happens when you don't do all of RTK

>>133565512
Stein's Gate

>>133565569
Yeah
Then she had to turn off the pc and end the stream because it was overheating

>>133565414
Writing with your mouse is just as good as actual handwriting.

>>133565400
There /are/ some nips who use youtube.

>have surgery in a few days
>want to stop new cards to let reviews die down a tiny bit / in case I'll be too out of it on meds and shit to keep up with the harder reviews of the new cards
>feel like I should at least read, but don't want to get buried under unseen mining cards
Should I just read without mining for the next few days or something?

Looks like 超電磁砲 tripped some of you guys up. Next question:
What does this say? 戦場ヶ原

>>133565512
Steins Tor

>>133565657
Tell your mate to fix her cooling then. That shit must be getting thermal throttled to hell and back.

>>133565703
Senjougahara

step it up senpai

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>>133565703

Hey boys.

>>133565779
There aren't any boys here.

>>133565703
I know what it is but what does ヶ even mean here?

>>133565730
Telling her to buy a GPU would probably be better advice.

>>133565700
Do them all right now so you die without regrets

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>listening to Japanese song I've liked for years
>decide to look up the lyrics
>turns out from what I can make out it's an anti-American song
And all this time I thought it was pro-American.

Good job I'm not a burgerclap. I'd feel pretty awkward and dumb right now if I was, and I probably wouldn't be able to enjoy the song anymore.

>>133565700
>Surgery
You've got to be kidding.

What's sentence mining?

>>133565414
>日本語を学ぶの大事な部分
動詞の前に「の」はこんな風に使えません
文法をもっとまじめに覚えてください、文法は日本語を学ぶのにかかせない部分である

>>133565700
I'll dedicate my reps to you if you die oniichan

>>133565779
did you watch too much スタミュ?

>>133565852
Mining sentences you read in VNs, manga, etc. for new words and adding them to a deck in Anki, as opposed to using a pre-made vocabulary deck.

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>>133565785
>ここには皆が可愛い二次元幼女だよ
いいミームだなぁ

>>133565743
>>133565747
Wrong and wrong. It's read: "Best Girl"

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>>133565785
Not this shit again.

do you agree that one does not know kanji unless he or she can write it down from memory?

>>133565964
I do. And RTK is the best way to achieve that, but the shills here don't like hearing it.

>>133565979
I don't think you understand what that word means

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>>133565863
あっそうです、訂正してくれてありがとうございます。文法をもっと勉強しなくてはならないようです。

>almost to the end of KD now
>凄
>keyword: deeyammn / hella
> 嫌
>keyword: ewww

Fuck off you stupid nigger. Wish he'd stop giving stupid fucking keywords like that. Had to replace about 10 of them through this thing

>>133565979
>shills
You meant "haters".

>>133565804
>ヶ ヶ (ctr,prt) counter for the ichi-ni-san counting system (usu. directly preceding the item being counted); noun read using its on-yomi; counter for articles; indicates possessive (esp. in place names)
>indicates possessive (esp. in place names)

It's like a qualifier that goes in place names and, by extension, in a lot of peoples' names.

竜ヶ峰（りゅうがみね） - Dragon's Peak
旭ヶ丘（あさひがおか） - Hill of the Morning Sun

>>133566094
Drama queen

>>133566094
Yeah a few of them are pretty shit. I've found a lot of them useful though.

>>133566196
Yea, a lot of them are more useful than RTKs. I just end up replacing these crappy ones with an RTK version

>>133566135
This is correct. As stated, it can also be used to count, eg.
三ヶ所 - Three places

What does「おにゅ」 even mean? I'm guessing that it's a stupid moe term as I got it from Hanahira, but I'm curious nonetheless. Full sentence:

「佳織ちゃんのパジャマ……おにゅーだね」

>>133566266
It's a deconstruction of "New" ニュー and prefix お

>>133566266
probably means cute or some shit
Don't mind it much

Would you keep doing anki reps if you got cancer? I think I would.

>>133565964
I think "know" is commonly used in both senses, that is including just recognition or including both recognition and production, and that trying to monopolize its meaning in some sort of war for semantic supremacy over one specific use of a word with an already ridiculously broad meaning is silly and unproductive. It's easier to simply make it clear whether you're talking about production, recognition or both.

>>133566366
Right now I'm doing anki reps exclusively for harder kanji and rare words; if I got a fast-acting terminal cancer (dead in less than 2 years) I'd drop it and just read moege / nukige while crying because I'll never read Muramasa at a good speed; if it'll take 2-4+ years then I'll actually double anki and speed the fuck up trying to get to Muramasa level in time.

>>133565979
Most of the arguments involving RTK are likely the same few people, considering it's the same argument every time. If you're interested in handwriting kanji from memory and understand how mnemonics work, then it's great at what it aims to do. If you're just using it because you have slight retention / recognition issues / mix similar kanji up because you don't know radicals and aren't paying close enough attention and don't actually care about ever handwriting, then it's likely a waste of time unless you have the worst vocab retention in the world.

My only issues are some of the keywords are a bit shit and some kanji are easy to confuse due to similar keywords. I'm combating this by adding cloze vocabulary to my cards (words with the kanji in question replaced by its reading in that particular word). I'm eventually going to remove the keywords from the front altogether.

>>133565964
Does "one" ever "really" "know" a "kanji" though?

>>133566366
I think I would do even more to distract myself or pass the time spent lying in hospitals, but all depending how bad the cancer and treatment affect me of course.

I've seen people go home from their weekly chemo and not show much of a reaction when I worked as a paramedic

>>133564907
Registered for N1, if the practice tests I've done and J-Cat are any indication, I'll pass without too many problems.

>>133566266
It means "new" in loli speak

oh shit they are shooting up paris again

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so, what is the best method to study kanji?

>>133566725
What does this have to do with Japanese?

>>133566787
Nothing?

>>133566763
Look at'm and write'm

>>133566763
whatever method works for you

>>133566725
No they're not.

>>133566802
Then take it to twitter or something

>>133566763
Studying every day

>>133566826
https://twitter.com/pzf/status/665953572060831744

It was a firecracker apparently
This is the effect of your country being invaded by terrorists.

>>133566865
That's the kind of prank you only get to do once in a lifetime.

>>133566763
Meditation and prayer.

>>133566763
reading, writing and flashcards simultaneously

Can you read these commonly misread kanji?
他人事
各々
重複
欠伸

>>133567028
Ha! I actually got the first one.

>>133567028
Got
各々
欠伸

Rikaisama lists たにんごと and ひとごと for 他人事, which did you want? I read it as たにんごと

I learned 重複, so i should've known that one...

>>133567028
It's my first time seeing these

>>133567028
Got 他人事 right
Read 各々 as それぞれ which I think is technically valid, depending on context
Haven't seen 重複
欠伸 is in my mining deck and I should be seeing it any time now

>>133567028
>重複
Why is this even here? Its reading is exactly the two on'yomi.

Read a lewd, see a girl say "おもしろい思い出を作りたかったけど、今はエッチなことずっとしてたい" which I understand, but then the guy responds with "つったって俺体位のバリエーションとかあんまり無いんだけど". What does this mean? I think I know, but what I think it means is completely unrelated to what she said and I don't get why he said this.

Also, what does つったって even mean?

>>133567028
How are they misread if each of them except 各々 have 2 ways of pronunciation.

>>133567028
Answers:
他人事 [spoilers]ひとごと[/spoilers] Incorrect: たにんごと
各々 [spoilers]おのおの[/spoilers] Incorrect: かくかく
重複 [spoilers]ちょうふく[/spoilers] Incorrect: じゅうふく
欠伸 [spoilers]あくび[/spoilers] Incorrect: けっしん

>>133567506
>つったって
I'm inclined to believe that it's something along the lines of と言ったって

Furthermore, I am inclined to believe that he is referring to positions assumed during sexual intercourse.

>>133567573
Okay I fucked up, but you get the drift XD

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>>133566787

>>133567579
>I'm inclined to believe that it's something along the lines of と言ったって
In the beginning of the sentence, what does that mean?

>Furthermore, I am inclined to believe that he is referring to positions assumed during sexual intercourse.
I was thinking so, but how is that a sensical response to what she said? Why is he talking about that all of a sudden?

>>133567506
>Also, what does つったって even mean?
Exactly what >>133567579 said, which is the same as と言っても in case you don't know.

As for the line as a whole, he's saying he can't do/doesn't know a lot of sexual positions, which is implied to be a potential problem if she wants to have sex for such a long time.

>>133567607
>XD
Stop.

>Do 1 rep
Better sync my collection. Wouldn't want to lose all that progress.

>>133567506
つったって here is used as a broken down version of -って言ったって which means "even if you say so" or "you say that, but".
The rest of the sentence; 体位 - Body Position, バリエーション - Variation
Combined, the full translation is:
You say that, but, I don't know too many sex positions.

>>133567664
Does anyone have the screen shot where some of you faggots started talking about gay experiences at summer camp or something like that?

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>>133567573
Learn to ctrl+s, anon.

>>133567664
>>133567815
I was about to request that one too.

It wasn't summer camp, it was a guy with another guy in a hotel.

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>>133567781
>sync
>trusting the cloudy jew

>>133567717
>As for the line as a whole, he's saying he can't do/doesn't know a lot of sexual positions, which is implied to be a potential problem if she wants to have sex for such a long time.
Ohhhh, that's the relevance. I see now. I didn't see the implication he was making.

>>133567717
>which is the same as と言っても in case you don't know.
I did not.

Thank you >>133567717, >>133567579 & also >>133567789 for helping me understand.

>>133567822
Eh? I usually just type it in manually, but I know that it's singular, not plural.

>>133567923
Good for you.

>>133567923
RAUS RAUS RAUS RAUS RAUS RAUS RAUS

>>133567952
Wohin n'?

>>133567976
>>>/trash/

Anyone here playing 奴隷との生活?

>>133567506

>体位のバリエーションとかあんまり無いんだけど
>But I don't reckon I can think of that many sexual positions...

>what I think it means is completely unrelated to what she said and I don't get why he said this.

huh?

>>133567573
there is no correct reading, it depends on the context
重複遺伝子 is not commonly read as ちょうふく but 重複感染 is the other way around

how do you read 人?
correct: たり, incorrect: ひと、にん、じん、と

>>133567506
finally, a question where https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Z_LI2_fRY is relevant

>>133567177
You read it wrong

>>133567422
重 has more than one onyomi

>>133568440
Being able to fluidly parse that for the first time was one of those early achievements I'll never forget.

>>133568317
You're right. Context will always shift the reading.
人 by itself? The answer is ひと . Nothing else.
The words I presented are meant to be read stand alone.

>>133568483
>重 has more than one onyomi
So? Both are used. If you're going to make a reading quiz shouldn't you keep it limited to words with unusual readings at the very least?

>>133568156
Obviously I didn't understand the meaning of the sentence when I initially asked. Which is why I asked about it. Also, you were late to the whole party senpai

>>133568540
> Both are used. If you're going to make a reading quiz shouldn't you keep it limited to words with unusual readings at the very least?


They are words commonly misread by Japanese. It doesn't matter if some gaijin says that the kanji is just using a common onyomi.

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Alright, I know Hiragana and Katakana. I also read the first couple of grammar lessons in tae kim. I know a few kanji like "today" or "I".

How do I read that shit?

>>133568483
>You read it wrong

http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/138006/meaning/m0u/%E4%BB%96%E4%BA%BA%E4%BA%8B/

>本来は「ひとごと」と読んだ語。
>本来
>と読んだ

sounds like it's a valid reading now?

>>133568540
You think you're reading them right but you aren't.

>>133566763
Nice gaijin scratch.

>>133568628
Learn more kanji?

Seems everyone is doing reading quizzes, why not

従姉妹 いとこ
所謂 いわゆる
何処 いずこ
給ふ たもう

>>133568628
Finish Tae Kim and do Core2K. You won't understand shit if all you've read is his basic grammar section. The essential grammar section is called "essential" for a reason. Most of the special expressions and advanced topics sections are essential too.

If you're too lazy to do that, you can't learn Japanese.

>>133568739
I knew the first two.
Isn't 何処 just どこ?

>給ふ
wtf

>>133568830
But reading tae kim is boring, I just want to masturbate.

>>133568830
Ignore this shitbird. Do Genki.

>>133568739
>いずこ
Anybody would read it as どこ, that's like writing 行く and saying いく is the wrong answer. I'll consider this a 3/3 for me.

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>>133568877

What does (か)ってくらい mean when in 運動したがってるんじゃないかってくらい? Is it "I wonder if its gotten to the point where I feel like exercising"?

>>133568856
>Isn't 何処 just どこ?
it depends on the time period/humbleness level of the text, also どこ is usually always written without kanji

>>133568943
運動したがってるんじゃないかと言うくらい

>>133568943
>運動したがってるんじゃないかってくらい
I don't like kanji but seeing this shit pisses me off more.

>>133568877
I didn't like Tae Kim, either, but some how I pushed through. I preferred Human Japanese.

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>>133568877
>I just want to masturbate
someone should work on an erotic grammar guide
through dick unity

>>133569148
This.
Why doesn't this exist yet?

>>133569148
イク〜
らめえ〜！
射精る〜

>>133569148
>reading my favorite translated doujins in Japanese for the first time
My dick has never been so hard.

Why does it feel hotter in Japanese? Am I just a disgusting weeaboo?

How long have you been posting on DJT?
For me it's been a bit over a year now.

>>133569199
>attaching の to verbs/adjectives can turn them into nouns
>example sentence: 大きのが欲しい (I want (your) dick (literally: the big thing))

I can see this working out, though finding pictures with appropriate sentences could take a while

>>133569014
Why? Because the kanji-nonkanji ratio is off?

>>133569294
Because when a drill-hair girl ends her sentence in わ (which is not shown in the English translation), you feel a pleasure like no other

>>133569321
I think about 8 or 9 months.

I "quit" (just did Core 2k/6k reviews and forgot a lot of the grammar by the time I came back and had to restart Tae Kim) for a bit over a month twice in that time, though. I most likely won't quit this time since I'm at the point where I'm slowly reading through moege.

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>>133569465
The downside is that when you hear Okamas using "あたし" and "わ" you feel much more disgust than before you knew the connotations of those words

>>133569294
Congrats man.
Really.

>>133568643
>sounds like it's a valid reading now?
It's valid as much as anything else. Such is the nature of language.

But people who use たにんごと may be seen as stupid.

>>133569640
That's just because you're a fag.

>口を開かせる
this is read あかせる, right?

>>133569148
I will call it Japanese the Hentai Way. It will start with very formal sex scenes where everyone is wearing business suits.
>"私は行きます。"
>I am cumming.

The chapter on household objects will look something like http://g.e-hentai.org/s/184c3a8f5c/69375-12

>>133569640
That's what you get for reading faggot porn.

>>133569772
理解様を使いたまえ

I'm learning kanji through vocab but should I also put time into remembering the individual meaning of each kanji or is it a waste of time?
e.g. 大型 - big + mould, model

feels like it would help a lot for picking up words but what do I know.

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>>133569321
Been to DJT back when they weren't numbered. Didn't really post back then and didn't stick around for long.

Right now I've been reading these threads almost daily since early this year

Round 2:

Easy: 流石
Medium: 言質
Hard: 曲者

>>133569321
Almost two years now.

Gotten far more involved in this place than I thought I would.

are there any NES or Genesis games that are in beginner level Kanji?

>>133570353
I've seen my brother play one of the goemon games on his imported snes, it was pretty simple to follow and barely used kanji at all, not even words like 牛肉 were written in kanji

>>133570353
Those games usually don't use kanji because of technical limitations afaik

>up to Conditionals in TK
>Another 50 different different rules to learn after this

My brain isn't big enough to keep all these rules separate

>>133569321
Around a week, mate. So far I've been learning 2 kanji a day and things are looking about as smooth as a young boy's arse.

>>133570741
You can remember anything with Anki.

>>133570859
I have no idea how I'd use Anki to efficiently memorize grammar

The Tae Kim decks are terrible.

>>133570741
Just watch anime and get a native feel for grammar

>>133570887
Example sentences with precise translations.

>>133570074
All of those are easy.

>>133570074
Answers:
流石 さすが Incorrect: ながれいし
言質 げんち Incorrect: げんしつ
曲者 くせもの Incorrect: まわれもの

How did you go? These are a little tricky because they differ slightly to what you might think at first!

>>133569321
Been roughly 3 years, since I started learning.

What's the origin of the expression ~のセの字もない? I get what it means in general but I don't know what they mean by セの字.

How long did it take you guys to memorize all the kana?

Coming from Korean, I'm having a hard time, as each symbol always makes the same sound, so two connected symbols are easy, whereas for Japanese, it seems to not matter.

>>133571210
The syllable セ

>>133571120
>流石
I keep reading that as りゅうせき

>>133571234
Ah, I got it. I did only see it used with words like 責任感, 成功 and センス.

>>133571217
Like a week

>>133571217
About 2 days

>>133571217
A day for Hiragana, a decade for Katakana

>>133571217
Used Heisig's Remembering the Kana when I first started learning japanese. Even taking it easy it should take a few weeks or less by doing so.

Give it a week of study priorizing hiragana and then continue your studies. Kana is everywhere in japanese, so it'll become second nature after a while.

>>133571217
Get Remembering the Kana. Should take 3-4 days to do Hiragana and Katakana.

>>133571217
A month. I wasn't really planing on learning at the time though, I just kept learning a few kana a day for fun. If I had goals in mind a week would have probably been enough to do it at a leisurely pace.

>>133571217
What do you mean by that? Each kana only corresponds to one sound, doesn't it? Are you talking about kanji?

It takes a couple days at most to learn all the kana through rote memory, if you put some effort into it.

ゑ What is this hiragana?

>>133571642
Yes, but two symbols can be in the same Kana, and it makes a completely different sound. In Korean for example, ㄱ= k ㅣ= i 기= ki. whereas in Japanese, こ = ko, and に= ni, despite both having the symbol for ko in it, if that makes sense.

>Japanese version reads,
>早く追わないと藍華ちゃん！
>English translation reads,
>Aika-chan, we need to quickly catch up!
Why the balls is a negative verb used this way?

>>133571217
A few hours with realkana.
http://realkana.com
Just keep going until you can recognize a hundred of them without making a single mistake.

>>133571762
we

>>133571762
we

>>133571800
that's a really odd issues you're having

>>133571808
Because it's a shortened version of 追わないといけない which means "bad if we didn't follow" -> "need to follow"

>>133571642
He's comparing it to hangul, where each character ist made up from a set of parts.
So all "a-"-sounds have ㅏ in them, all "n"- sounds have ㄴ in them, so to get "na", you just put them together like this: 나

>Don't know how to Anki
>Can't Genki
>Tae Kim is scrub tier
>Can't afford incoded anime

>>133571808
Look at this sentence:

早く武器を見つけないと・・・
this translates to "If I don't find a weapon quickly... (something bad will happen)"

in your case it's the same, only calling out another person in agreement at the end

>>133571808
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/must

>The 「と」 conditional is also used by itself to imply 「だめ／いけない／ならない」.
>学校に行かないと。
>Gotta go to school.

>>133571873
I think it's because I'm looking at each individual symbol, and not the character as a whole. I'll get over it, just kinda throws me for a loop sometimes.

>>133571903
Retard.

>>133571966
Huh. I was thinking that use a て.
Thanks guys.

>>133571994
Fuck you motherfucker.

>>133571903
Today's your lucky day. I will teach you everything about Anki. What are your questions?

>>133571980
Have fun with kanji

>>133571903
>Don't know how to Anki
http://bitlasers.com/djt

>Can't Genki
What?

>Tae Kim is scrub tier
Tae Kim covers more than Genki. What about it is "scrub tier" exactly?

>Can't afford incoded anime
"Incoded" isn't a word. I don't even know what you're trying to say here.

こにちえわかおみにあさん！

>>133572135
>Tae Kim covers more than Genki
Ｎｏｐｅ．

>>133571980
Yeah, you're thinking of it like korean where every piece of the character says something about the sound. That doesn't happen in kana at all. Each character is its own thing.

>>133572212
Yeah, I know that's the problem I'm having. I'll get over it through brute memorization, I'm sure.

>>133572182
What does Genki cover that TK doesn't?

>>133572182
Genki only teaches classroom Japanese. It's primary purpose is to give students the information they need to answer questions in exams. Tae Kim has a broader scope because it's intended for self-study and not constrained by what is and isn't needed for students in a classroom environment.

For instance, you won't find any of this in Genki because students won't be tested on it:
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/slang

>>133572268
dumb classroom exercises

>reading dry and boring grammar guides
>not just watching anime
Come on guys

>>133572309
>Classroom Japanese
You guys are a fuckin trip man. Keep on Anki reppin'.

>>133571980
>>133572249
If you let yourself get hung up on this, you're going to have a pain in the arse with kanji.

Japanese is Japanese, Korean is Korean. The strokes in the kana aren't related to sounds, they're derived from elements of kanji (and kanji is not a phonetic script).

>>133572004
It can also use a て, but it's not usually abbreviated in that case.

学校に行かなくてはいけない

However, when you contract the ては to ちゃ it works by itself like the と.

学校に行かなくちゃ

Pisses me off when you fuckers diss Genki.

>>133569090
I thought that was in the CoR, where did it go?

>>133572349
You must be amazingly dumb.

>>133572654
haha I bet you actually educate yourself at school LOL!

>>133572669
Why?

>>133572654
>learning japanese in school
vid dot me / TW4S

You can only learn Japanese in Skype groups.

This is a fact.

>>133571120
I only knew 流石 since I've seen it used a lot in VNs the past few days. Pretty strange choice of kanji

>>133572841
I know 流石 because of that one video where the guy misreads it as りゅうせき.

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>>133572706
because aniki doesn't speak real japanese

>二カ所で束ねられた髪がひっかからないよう、慎重に頭を撫でてやる。
What is this 二カ here?

>>133572786
what

>>133572916
2カ所

>>133572981
Thanks.

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>>133561657
>TFW learned 25 characters in hirigana kana
>kanji and hiragana are still ahead of me
>as well as all the kana for the kanji
>And the Grammar
I have consumed a litre of water only an ocean to go but I'm still thirsty.

>>133572891
Have you actually been to Japan to make sure you aren't being lied to?

あざまっす

>>133573125
You won't be grinning soon, loser

>>133573125
>TFW learned 25 characters in hirigana kana
What?

>>133573125
You're going to give up.
I can feel it.

>>133573125
>hirigana kana
That's redundant. You're literally saying「平仮名仮名」 (note the repetition of 仮名).

>as well as all the kana for the kanji
What?

>>133564961
>>133565025
If they would fucking develop an HTML5 player for nico I could just sit in there all day reading shit with rikaichan

rikai doesn't work with flash

>>133573433
I don't use Flash so if I ever want to watch a video from there I have to rip it with NicoFox and pray that the stars are aligned and site isn't in low quality mode.

I really don't know how Japs stand to use that site. It's functionally awful. How has no other Japanese site come along and replaced it yet?

>>133573419
Yeah. He's all over the place. Sounds like little nigga needs to read the guide.

>>133573433
I spent a few years watching streams, copy pasting pretty much every comment into google translate for readings. This was right after learning only hiragana. I could read katakana and ~100 kanji after all the copy pasting

But yeah, the site is shit

>>133573319
>>133573419
T-thanks for the support guys...

>>133573391
I meant to say hirigana I don't know where kana came from.

>>133573423
>as well as all the kana for the kanji
I meant the grammar for kanji...I'm beginning to think drinking and internet aren't the best of combinations.

Anyway when do you guys study every day every week every hour?

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>>133573423
>You're literally saying「平仮名仮名」 (note the repetition of 仮名)
C'mon anon.

>>133573528
You know what Nips are like. If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Same reason they still use yahoo and geocities and all that shit

>>133573528
>NicoFox
just feed youtube-dl directly to your media player of choice
I don't watch niconico very often but it has always worked so far

>>133573546
Just remember that nothing matters but grammar.
Forget about kanji.

Well I did it boys. I dropped Genki because of you.

>>133573529
Nah mate it goes kana then grammar then kanji then a lot more grammar then wondering what you are doing with your life.

>>133573670
Make sure you pick up Tae Kim or some other grammar guide. Alternatively, if you were already quite far into Genki, you may as well just finish it then use Tae Kim or the DOJG as a reference when you get stuck.

>>133573706
At least I've got a lot of practice with the last part.

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>>133573546
>every day
Yes

希死念慮
why does jisho or rikaisama not have this

>Finally got those fucking days of the week nailed down.
Thanks to the ones that said to just do it outside of Anki. Don't know why I didn't think of that. Makes way more sense when it comes to numbers, days and shit when you can see the pattern clearly.

>>133573706
It goes kana then grammar/kanji/vocab at the same time

>>133573564
It basically is broke though. Imagine if YouTube had that low quality mode bullshit where for half the day or more you could only watch videos in 360p. People would ditch it overnight and move to a better site.

>>133573825
>People would ditch it overnight
Doubtful

>>133573866
They would, westerns are not going to put up with that shit. People are already using other sites for specific cases to avoid google's faggotry.

>>133573866
They would if the current Youtube existed along with the gimped Youtube

>>133573812
what? the weekdays are associated to the same planets as in english
no exceptional readings either

maybe it was easier for me since I knew how some planets were written before learning the days of the week

What were those browser VNs you could use rikai on? I want to try them

>>133574088
Piracy is not allowed.

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>>133574122
Have a (You)

かつよび

>>133574088
Why bother? A normal VN + chiitrans lite is basically just rikai.

>>133574088
Asenheim

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All right, I have a NEET study report. As we all know, studying Japanese is very time consuming and leaves little time for showering. However, grease accumulates on hair which becomes a distraction to studying, so one is forced to shower about once every 3-4 days. In order to deter this, I shaved my entire head. The results are astounding. I am currently on my. I have showered only 2 times since October 1st, and both were because I was forced to leave the home for extenuating circumstances. I am currently on my 21st day in a row without showering and am JUST NOW beginning to notice any smell. My Japanese ability as SOARED. If you're a NEET interested in learning Japanese - a buzzcut will do you wonders.

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>>133574464

>>133574354
Thank you

>>133574333
I have found that VNs are often too shit to bother finding a download and installing, these should be good for a quick read on firefox

>>133574464
Fucking gross dude. Glad your Japanese improved at least...

>>133573804
Because they both use JMdict, and no one has added that word yet.

http://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/edform.py?svc=jmdict&sid=

>>133573804
is it an obscure term?

kotobank says it has the same meaning as 自殺願望

>>133574464
I always choose to shave my head over going to a barber. It looks like shit.

>>133574772
I don't know I just encountered it normally in a detective drama

>>133574537
What happened here?

>>133574965
He did RTK.

>>133574464
>shaving your hair off
>not just letting it grow it really long and keeping it tied up all the time
pleb

I don't really keep track of the days anymore, but I probably shower once a week or less. Keeping my hair tied up stops the greasiness of my hair from bothering me at all.

>there are people here who don't shower everyday
How can you fucking live with yourself?

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>>133574464
>>133575166

>not just showering instead
why, it's not unpleasant or anything

Showering is a good time to review the vocabulary you learned today.

>>133575268
Takes time, every time a shower crosses my mind I have to decide "stop reading VN or keep reading VN", as a dedicated Japanese learner I always pick the latter.
>>133575252
It's interesting to see how societal pressures can mold a mind like this. It's not like humans are meant to bath every day.

>>133575252
showering every day is not healthy, 6 days a week is the recommended ideal

your skin also needs to time to relax and repair itself, showering is aggressive and depending on your skin type showering more or less can be better

>>133575252
>>133575268
It takes me about an hour to shower. It's such a pain in the arse. I'm a friendless NEET, I have nobody to keep up appearances with. I shower when I want to and don't when I don't.

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First time actually opening the DOIJG after having it downloaded from /a/ some time ago
How the fuck does the index work?
For example if you go to "Z" you can see "zutsu" is on page 572, the pdf doesn't have page 572 but if you go to it manually so you can see 572 on the scan, it's some shit about "wake"
Where the fuck is zutsu then
The DOBJ's index works fine

>>133575408
>It takes me about an hour to shower
How?

>>133575444
If I'm going to go to the trouble of showering, I'm going to do it properly. I'm very methodical about it, otherwise I don't feel clean afterwards.

>>133575427
Always go straight for the index on DOAJG.

>>133575427
The page number isn't the page number of the PDF, it's the page number of the book itself.

>>133575517
I can't possibly imagine being methodical enough for a shower to take more than 20 minutes. There's just not enough things to do. Unless you divide your body surface into one square inch sectors and wash them twice each, one by one.

>>133575427
In the intermediate book, bold entries are for the intermediate book, normal entries are for the beginner book.

Hey DJT. What's the difference between にして and として?

あなたは、マラソン選手としては、持久力が不足している。（マラソン選手に必要な持久力、が不足している。）
あなたは、マラソン選手にしては、持久力が不足している。（マラソン選手であるわりには、持久力が不足している。）

Are there any more nuances than this?

>>133565608
Some anon posted a good version, replacing 4ever with いつも and 5ever with　六も

>>133575622
DOJG

>>133575585
>wash hands
>wash armpits
>wash hands
>wet hair and move it off my skin
>wash upper back, shoulders and neck where hair will touch (otherwise hair will get dirty again as soon as I wash it)
>wash hair
>wash hair again (need to to get all the grease off, shampooing once doesn't cut it)
>condition hair
>wash hands
>wash face
>move hair out the way again
>wash entire upper body
>wash butt
>wash hands
>wash genitals
>wash hands
>wash upper legs
>wash lower legs
>lift right foot up to wash it
>without putting it back down on the shower floor, step out onto clean towel
>repeat with left foot

It's a real fucking ordeal.

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もう知た

>>133575891
Yeah but like, it only takes like 30 seconds to do each of that (except hair) so all those things you list add up to 10 or so minutes.

>>133575910
Where is this from?

>>133575963
http://www.arealme.com/japanese-level/ja/

>>133575956
>it only takes like 30 seconds to do each of that
Not for me.

Okay, starting over since I stopped 1 and a half months ago to finish school properly. Now studying alldayerrday, wish me luck.
/blog

>>133575891
You make it sound like that's supposed to be a lot of work but actually it only takes 10-15 minutes to do those things

>>133575891
You're pretty fucked up.

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>さらに夢の中美女以外には会いたくない。
This means something like "furthermore I can't meet beautiful women outside of dreams" right

>>133575992
Well hurry it up.

>>133576057
>You make it sound like that's supposed to be a lot of work
It is.

>actually it only takes 10-15 minutes to do those things
45-60 for me.

>>133576105
If I rush, I can finish in 30 minutes.

>>133576076
That's tai form, not potential form

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>>133575992
Could you be a real life Sora?

>>133576167
Still haven't gotten round to watching that show.

>>133575883
Just admit you don't know.

>>133576076
"Furthermore, I don't want to encounter anything other than beautiful women inside a dream."

>>133576331
I didn't claim to know anything, I was just pointing out they both have DOJG entires so he can read them. Nice projecting though.

>>133576446
You couldn't answer his question so you just told him to read a grammar guide that might not even answer his question.