So, I just made a thread for this, and I apologize for not seeing the general (didn't see it, I'm on mobile) but I just finished part 4 and was wondering if there were any decent translations for part 5? If any of you know of where I can get those scans I'd greatly appreciate it. Also, I just bought jojo 6251 and jojo a-go-go but I have a question about jojoveller, what's the difference between the limited edition and normal? Just the blurays?
>I just finished part 4 and was wondering if there were any decent translations for part 5?
batoto has the best scans out there at the moment.
Yes, most of the chapters are still pretty shit. The project to improve that is ongoing.
How do you download stuff from batoto in bulk? I don't think right clicking and saving each image is the right way to go about it. Unless batoto is using translations that are available in bulk elsewhere I dunno how to download all of part 5.
So who do you think's gonna be working on DIU? I don't think David Production did a perfect job, but I did love how loyal they were to the manga. Assuming they learned from past mistakes, I wouldn't mind seeing them working in DIU.
Also, do you expect whichever studio is gonna work in DIU to do something with Pomp Saviour AKA Totally Not Time Travelling Josuke?
>Are they going to explain the hair?
No. If Araki ever gets asked what was up with that guy he can easily come up with a quick way to write it off.
>Who was that man who saved Josuke?
>After the events of DIU Josuke fought a stand user that had the ability to send someone back in time to a place in their memories. Josuke was beat up by this guy, sent to the past, saw himself and his mom and pushed the car.
There. Questions answered.
>answers question about Not Josuke
>ignores question about who's gonna work on DIU
>There. Questions Answered.
That aside, it's obvious that Pomp Man must've been Josuke and Araki didn't use Bites the Dust the way he originally wanted to use it. Writing it off is the easily solution, but it'd be interesting to see whatever studio gets to work on this to do something creative with it.
Part 5 ED 1: https://youtu.be/ntewURI6Nwo
Part 5 ED 2: https://youtu.be/y-JmZ9ADhYg
You can't get tired of Koyasu. Speaking of seiyu, I hope so much they will hire Miki Shinichiro as Gyro 10 years later when SBR will be animated. He fit the role perfectly in ASB
Ah. I thought that was outdated. As to my knowledge the redone translations were pretty recent. I'll go check it out. Just for curious what volumes were redone? Is there alot left?
People give a shit about Akira? His Stand was the only good part about him.
>My stand has a good range and I can attack them from far away?
>fuck it, I just gonna show up in front of them and play my guitar
DIO > Diavolo > Kira > Dio > Valentine > Kars > Pucci
>Also, do you expect whichever studio is gonna work in DIU to do something with Pomp Saviour AKA Totally Not Time Travelling Josuke?
Why do you faggots get so autistic about this? It was just a little joke about why Josuke likes his hair style so much. There's nothing to "do" with it.
Today marks 114 years since Johnny Joestar died.
>Taking College Exam
>The Ability to absorb the knowledge of people above a certain IQ, like Highway Star
>Stand Name: Kharma Chameleon Requiem. because it was the first song I thought of for some reason.
I win automatically, I just overlap my stand in-front of my body like a giant shield to protect against Hamon and Vampirism since nothing can damage a stand except another stand.
1 >> 7 > 4 >5 > 6 > 3 > 2
Part 6 would've been one of the best if it had more closure on the universe before everything went to shit, but I guess that wasn't really the point. I still have so many questions regarding the old universe, but the moments leading up to it were written really well, it just didn't feel complete.
I found jotaro
A razor works pretty well for shaving off a tiny bit in the middle and sides, you just need to have a steady hand and use one of those female disposable small ones that come in large packs for piss cheap.
Not a surprise that Jojo isn't a hit in the West, hasn't it always been that way? Also a lot of people didn't buy it because they didn't do a BD release. Every Jojo fan I know didn't buy it specifically for that reason. Myself included, but I had already imported the Japanese release anyway.
Autistic me coming through with a rough transcript.
>"Wher- did anything kinda under-perform, things you had high expectations for and maybe didn't quite crack the numbers that you were hoping for?"
>CEO: "Well I mean number 1, I'm going to tell you right out of the box is JoJos."
>CEO: "You know, I-I really thought it was going to be super super strong. But, you know there was no blu-ray. Number 1: The marketing for it really wasn't where I felt that it needed to be, I thought we were doing a lot more than that. I think the way the product was released was just not suited to the anime market so there wasn't a mass-market type product that was put out there. I think if a nice super collector box on that was put out or something was treating that property with more anime centric focus, I think it would have done a whole lot better than it did."
Guess what came in the mail today
Vampirism. I could probably be killed by someone with hamon but what if I just don't piss off hamon users? Get a job at a hospital and steal bloodbags for sustenance. Immortality AND freezy powers.
On the vampirism note, where did they explain the Pillar Men's powers? Were they attributes of vampirism or combat styles they perfected?
>post yfw over heaven dios power is to "end time"
>I think if a nice super collector box on that was put out or something was treating that property with more anime centric focus, I think it would have done a whole lot better than it did."
They could also try giving a fuck about the general presentation of the product they're pushing.
Kira > Diavolo > DIO > Pucci > Valentine > Dio > Kars
The dumbest starting with Kira. I guess he was intelligent but you can't just go around killing people and thinking that's a quiet life. The only reason Kars lost was because literally "fuck you joeseph wins bc good guys have to win"
>The only reason Kars lost was because literally "fuck you joeseph wins bc good guys have to win"
You're thinking of Diavolo. Kars could have won if he just ignored Joseph and flew away.
Kars could've killed Joeseph easliy. He was playing with his food. Araki saw that a little too late and thought well fuck guess I gotta use and asspull. Not even Joeseph knew why he used the stone. It was bullshit. Same with Diavolo, but Diavolo is dumb because he's literally insane.
>Kars could have won if he just ignored Joseph and flew away
The manga frames the speed of these events more accurate. Also, he tried.
>contributing to shitty general threads
I think one of unsung lessons of the franchise is that you should dream big.
If you do, your Stand will be awesome. If not, it'll be nigh-useless outside of specific circumstances.
Which isn't to say that people can't change.
>Part 1: Jonathan and Zeppelli try to find a gift for Tonpetty. Dio plays the grinch
>Part 2:Joseph is being mischievous and he's visited by the pillarmen of Christmas Past/Present/Future
>Part 3: I don't know
>Part 4: Josuke tries to find the perfect gift for Rohan. Rohan tries to find the perfect gift for Josuke.
Rohan sells his prized pen for a hairbrush for Josuke. Josuke pawns his favorite hairbrush for new ink for Rohan
How is the Joeseph suddenly, without knowing why and having no prior knowledge of its effect, suddenly using the red stone and launching Kars into space, not an asspull? Its like, the assiest pull. If I reached into my asshole right now II wouldn't pull out shit, I'd pull out this ending.
It'll just be an unlimited timestop. Guaranteed. That was the whole point of him defeating the Joestar Tour Group, moving on to stop time forever.
An Asspull used to resolve an unwinnable situation for the protagonists in a Deus ex Machina. It's a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, Kars is defiantly an asspull, and to a lesser degree arguably so is Ger.
>without knowing why and having no prior knowledge of its effect, suddenly using the red stone and launching Kars into space, not an asspull?
Your perception of these events is wrong.
So he was just holding up his hand to try and block Kars? That makes more sense. But my memory is kinda shit. Where did he get the Redstone? I thought Kars still had it when he transformed. Or did Joeseph pick it up at some point?
How do you ignore something slamming into your throat?
There is nothing contrive about how Cars is defeated. Joseph had been told previously that hamon masters believed it would be the key to defeating the Pillar Men.
He picked it up before running from the bed of spikes, and it was in his hand when he reached out to subconsciously stop Cars' blow.
Cars was defeated by coincidence.
He picked it up.
Holy shit, you people really don't have any recollection of what actually happens in JOJO.
Do you all just read the wiki?
>Part I: see >>133396210
>Part II: Joseph and Caesar's bickering on Christmas Eve fucked up the tree and decorations. Now they've got to replace everything by Christmas morning so Lisa Lisa doesn't kick their ass. The red stone of aja is the tree topper
>Part III: Stardust Crusaders try to combine their country's traditions into one holiday; shenanigans ensue. Meanwhile, DIO is curious about the commercialization of Christmas that occured while he was under the sea. Also he read 'A Christmas Carol'
>Part IV: Family Christmas party with all the morioh crew. Catering by antonio.
>Part V: Abbachio helps a kid on Christmas Eve, who becomes his Tiny Tim for that Christmas
>Part VI: How do you celebrate Christmas in a prison?
>Part VII: Johnny and Gyro reminisce over a Christmas gone by from their youths. As they sleep, the Corpse shows them and other bearers a vision of the true nativity and epiphany
>Part VIII: Jingle Bell Rock! Josuke II must stop a rock man grinch before he runs off with the Higashikata family's Christmas presents!
You all realize that Jojo released weekly, right? That Araki probably thought ahead when he started writing arcs?
Why is this
>Jojo is full of asspulls and Araki is a bad writer
shit a meme?
I don't think any other series has as critical as a fanbase.
Here it is. The exact moment of Kars's defeat.
You'd have to ask Araki himself, but I think that homoerotic implications aside, Rohan's obsession with Koichi was meant to be a commentary on shounen mangakas as the boy is pretty much a living embodiment of the highschool protagonists of their chosen genre:
Younger (and shorter) than their age would indicate
Rising underdog type
Enthusiastic, but easily embarrassed
You wouldn't think much about the creative processes behind such a work when you're reading/watching it, but the idea of a fully grown adult obsessing over and writing about adolescents is a pretty skeevy concept
The Joestar family was offered Luck and Pluck by an undead royal knight, and Joseph had won by luck in previous fights and commits several feats proving that coincidence favors him.
Stroheim looks so annoyed.
I love how Joseph bullshitted him one last time. Kars' last lucid thoughts were probably spent wondering how he had planned it all:
>The Night Yoshikage Kira ruined Christmas
>I hate these celebrations. They're simply not normal. In fact, they're the opposite of formal.
>All their ORAing and DORAing can be heard across town. It's so unsightly that it makes me frown. I can't stand it. I hate it. All this holiday cheer. At least I find solace in that you my dear, will not be seeing your family this year.
>PLEASE LET ME GO. I'LL DO ANYTHING. PLEASE HELP ME
>Be quiet now sweetheart.Or someone will hear. You need to get out of your current state of fear. Besides, in a few minutes, you won't even be here.
>YOU MEAN YOU'RE LETTING ME GO?
>No, no. That's not part of the plan. You see, I'll blow you up and just leave your hand.
>You see, as I scanned through that crowd and saw your pretty face I just knew that I had to bring you to this place. And I hate to be mean but it's time that you've seen my friend Killer Queen.
>why did the hero win????
>fucking christ these animes are dumb, why cant evil win and kill people???
That was the point. A sequence of coincidental events and circumstances got Jojo out of a certain death situation
And we knew it could amplify sun beams into burning rays.
The logical conclusion we were supposed to draw is that Joseph was going to focus his own hamon into a beam to cut Cars, or something.
But it's Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, so the beam was instead shot backwards into Jojo's hand and into a volcano, causing an unexpected outcome
Joseph was attacked with hamon so he used the Ultimate Aja. Had Kars tried something simple like simply slicing him he would have easily won but he was set on killing Joseph with the very technique that killed the other pillar men.
As for the arm, I like to think that Stroheim threw it from below but that's just my headcannon.
>Out-witting the ultimate being
It wasn't consciously winnable, only subconsciously and ONLY with luck.
Wanting to kill his adversary with their own technique did him in.
>mfw people still care about DBZ at all
Damn. I fucking loved Part 4's ending. The final battle Josuke vs Kira was fucking nuts. Also I find it hilarious how an ambulance is what finished him off
>The logical conclusion we were supposed to draw
So you're just mad your own prediction didn't come true? Kars used the stone on his face and became invincible, why would Joseph's weak hamon hurt him after that?
Joseph should've gotten a punch ghost Stand when he held the Aja Stone from a burst of Hamon and Stand power that has something to do with Light and Hamon. It would be ironic, Kars death being caused by the same power his mode has after he was about to use Hamon against Joseph.
I'm talking about the difference between a Cars who is standing and striking downwards towards a kneeling Jojo, and a situation where Joseph might be actively trying to block Cars Hamon, where he might be standing
That's why that debris just so happened to have launched at the exact moment that Kars had flown to that exact position while it was the only moving object flying torwards them, at the exact speed required to exactly hit him for the fraction of a split second, right?
Or is that just all in the realm of Joseph's subconscious planning? Fuck no it isn't, and I'm too tired for this retarded argument.
He even says it was just luck
I see no reason to change him; they've stuck with him for all the Part 4 UJ commercials and video games.
You can listen to Metal Bat while you wait though.
The series can do that, I don't care. I'm not expecting it.
I just know that if it does happen, Araki is going to make it far more interesting than their fanfiction greentext horseshit.
Stands are a really broad ability here. Obviously OP stands like MiH is going to destroy everything, but then you also have shit stands like Khnum. I'd say that vampires, hamon and spin actually have a fair chance against visible stands or non punch ghost stands, like most part 7 stands.
Am I the only one who didn't like Echoes third stage?
It didn't really relate to sound at all like the other two stages, and making stuff heavy isn't that cool.
Koichi's 2nd stage was strong and allowed for interesting uses of the stand.
Draining the life of this particular person.
I suddenly pictured Kira dressed as santa with sheer heart attack pulling his sleigh.
Sheer Heart Attack has a red nose and a deer antler strapped to it.
>All jojo's down in joville loved christmas a lot
>except for kira who lived in morioh, did not
>kira hated christmas, the whole christmas season
>dont ask why, no one quite knows the reason
>Some say his socks were on upside down
>some say his abnormal life made him frown
>but i think the most likely reason of all
>was that without ladies hands, his dick was two sizes too small.
Underworld would've been a lot stronger in Europe, Africa or Asia.
Pity Donatello didn't make it to Cape Canaveral so he could resurrect the memories of shuttle launches as an attack.
Oingo Boingo is slang for nigger and that won't fly any better than naming them Porch and Monkey in America.
Vanilla Ice was deemed too homoerotic to test well with western audiences and was renamed Cool Ice to reinforce the fact that he is a 'cool' dude.
Those copyright cases are fucked up. I mean Vanilla Ice are just two random words slapped together, so what if some musician have the same stage name, don't use it at all because of him?
>Vanilla Ice was deemed too homoerotic to test well with western audiences and was renamed Cool Ice to reinforce the fact that he is a 'cool' dude
It didn't help to make him less homoerotic while he kept his looks
>finally catch up on JoJo
>it's on haitus
>tfw you will never get off of Hirohiko Araki's Wild Ride
>it's on hiatus
It's a month, and he is writing a one-shot instead, for the month. Read all his one shots, get hype for a new Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan, and stop thinking that we're on a boat.
>putting effort into their dvd/bluray menus
>tfw you will never get off of Hirohiko Araki's Wild Ride
What would Jotaro Ascended look like in Eyes of Heaven. I'm pretty sure if Dio ascended, so did Jotaro for the final boss.
Because theres a prophecy, that Lisa Lisa mentioned. The Stone acted on its own to fulfill its destiny of defeating the Pillar men. Thast the point of pointing out that joseph didnt do it conciously, it was the power of Hamon. the stone was in contact with his body, Fight or Flight instinct kicks in, the stone does what it was made to do
>Part 4: Josuke tries to find the perfect gift for Rohan. Rohan tries to find the perfect gift for Josuke.
Rohan sells his prized pen for a hairbrush for Josuke. Josuke pawns his favorite hairbrush for new ink for Rohan
I think a better Morioh Christmas Special would be Yukako trying to have a perfect date with Koichi, only for her plans to be foiled by Rohan having the same idea. At the same time, Josuke and Okuyasu would see the holiday season as a time to rip off others for lods of emone.
Then a Stand user kills them. The End.
I just noticed that Jos2ke's I WON COMPLETELY pose is exactly the same as the one Kira makes in the photo of him.
Reading part 6
Part 5 is probably my favorite part. Diavolo was great, King Crimson was NOT hard to understand and Gold Experience Requiem is fucking awesome. Also, Polnareff.
And the goddamn ending was kinda like Conker's Bad Fur Day ending. He defeats the villain, and becomes one.
Some particular stands can, example
>MOTHER FUCKING CREAM
But other than these, yeah, it's pretty much impossible with time fuckery or hallucination. They have incredibly fast regeneration and complete control of their body.
Yeah, it would work
>drag them to sunlight
they can't do anything if they're incapped.
but yeah, pretty doubtful about that one now that i think about it
>Wamu and Kars would kill Bruno before he could even come close.
but Bruno is already dead.
I've had this crappy stand idea for a while and I just drank got a bit tipsy at a family lunch so forgive my autism.
Its ability is to manipulate "print". This encompasses not only actual print, but anything that exists or is projected into a two-dimensional plane, such as written text, graffiti, movie projections, paintings, posters, things shown on a screen, etc. The stand itself must touch the "print" for it to be manipulated, and it has a range limit. The stand can also "print" itself and other tri-dimensional objects such as its user into a 2D plane, but this takes a lot of concentration and is physically tiring with larger objects and especially people. Also, due to the nature 2D objects in our dimension, any living creature made into 2D for extended periods of time will begin to experience intense nausea from the difference in depth and eventually pass out and die due to its molecular structure being unable to adapt. The stand can also print things the other way (2D to 3D), though they will more often than not crumble within a minute or two. The most effective way to use this ability is by printing letters at high speed from a text like a machinegun or printing an entire phrase and using it like a rope.
However, where it truly shines is in image manipulation, altering written text or just stealing it from its source. It can work extremely fast on still images and text, but moving things like movie clips, gifs or simply a computer screen while someone is using it are harder to pull off since things can get jumbled and filled with artifacts.
Outside of its ability it's an average punchghost. I can't think of a name for it.
Okay, now you can tell me to fuck off, I've already unleashed all the cringey autism I had to unleash.
if you're willing to put in the time to read a book, i'd highly recommend Purple Haze Feedback (300 pages, roughly 6th grade reading level)
it's a light novel that follows Fugo, who has been tasked with tracking down the remaining members of the Narcotics Team as a test to rejoin Passione, but it also offers a lot of great character development for the rest of the Part 5 crew (and features a couple cool new stands too)
1) Stands are the next step in Hamon, same with vampirism and spin. Stands should work against pillarmen. Tell him to read part 7.
2) stands can only be damaged by other stands. There are plenty of users who could fight using their stand as a shield and win.
Stands that could beat pillar men off the top of my head:
Hermit Purple with hamon
Echoes Act 2, possibly 3 with the exception of ultimate Kars
Superfly (would be perfect for ultimate kars, actually)
Silver Chariot Requiem
Sticky Fingers can lock them away
Tusk Act 4
that one stand in part 6 that made imaginary things real
possibly Purple Haze (except for Wham and ult. kars)
meteor strike stand
highway star (bonus points for being ironic)
Soft & Wet
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May be you should stop making this thread. There is no need for 24/7 jojo thread. The only time this thread is not complete shit is when new chapter released.
Try reading the threads before you complain about their content, the only things out of that list I've seen pop up at all recently are part ratings and the occasional pucci meme, the last few threads have actually been pretty decent. It'd be nice if all the people who complain about posts not being up to their standard tried creating good discussion themselves instead of clogging up threads with pointless arguments like these.
i just finished jjl ch48 and what the actual fuck
my guess is,
Jyosefumi (from Karera's picture) is a straight up thug who stole Jyosefumi's (Hato's boyfriend) identity so he could peddle fruits, and Hato's boyfriend found out where Jou2ke was living and is trying to get revenge
what are other peoples' theories?
On one hand, I want them to pull off this scene without the need for censoring so I can see it without waiting for blu-rays.
On the other hand, if the scene is going to look as good as the spread does in the manga, it will probably have to be censored.
Can you imagine how terrible part six and five are going to look when animated with all the blackouts? Jesus, there are going to be entire screens that are just pitch black I'm calling it now.
consider that parts 7 and 8 are in UJ now, not WSJ
maybe they'll recognize that the Jojo's audience is older and air the anime either later at night, or with some type of uncensored online release in tandem with the televised release? what's the japanese equivalent of hulu?
here you go anon, what's your idea?
just wishful thinking mainly. were the blu ray releases uncensored, or did they retain the television censorship?
then what would be the explanation for the name? just pure coincidence or random computer error?
He obviously knows it's Josuke's real identity, but that won't change his utimate fate: A one off who will die achieving nothing, like every other minor antagonist in all of JoJo.
I was going to say
rock men kill off people in order to steal their identities but then I remembered Yotsuyu's intended victim was Kira
Thanks for repeating yourself
Hey guys, I've had an idea for a Stand once and I need to hear your opinion about it. Do you think it would work
as a protagonist's Stand?
Normally it would act pretty much like Cream, with decent speed and attempting to eat people with its huge mouth. Anything/anyone swallowed by the Stand would be transported into a pocket dimension of sorts, appearing in the outside as a bubble but being much roomier on the inside. Inside this "bubble", the Stand user would be able to control the conditions of the room (like temperature, humidity, gravity, etc) and use them in any creative way he wants, although he'd also have to be inside of the same bubble to control it. If the user got inside the bubble, he would be joined by his original Stand, which would appear as a regular punchghost to better face an enemy.
However, if an enemy is swallowed and transported inside the bubble that won't mean the end of the fight, as they can burst the bubble from inside if they put enough damage to its walls. When this happens, everyone inside is hurled to the outside (like air leaving a balloon violently when it pops), and that pocket dimension ceases to exist. On the other hand, damaging the bubble from the outside and bursting it will carry the damage to anyone that's inside of it.
The most important aspect of this Stand, however, is how much of a control freak it appears to be. If someone else takes control of a certain aspect of the pocket dimension that the original user had no power over, the Stand itself will allow its user to gain control over it. For an example, if there's an enemy Stand that possesses the bubble's inner walls, and if the bubble's Stand user had no previous control over its own walls, he will be given the power to control the bubble's inner walls and will keep it for future fights. This is how the Stand would develop its power; by gradually gaining control of more aspects of itself, like object spawning and time control.
There we go, that should be everything since the last one. Let me know if I missed any, and if you reply to this with any new drawings I'll add them in to the space on the right
Does anyone have that animated edit of joseph smashing his camera with purple hermit while thinking of caesar, only to have caesar's image show up instead of dio's?
kira would rather die to give jyosefumi life than live without him
i was thinking that part 8 seemed awfully hetero compared to the other parts, thanks for clearing that up for me
Does JoJo have popularity polls? Mind you, Kakyoin and Jotaro would probably win, but it'd be interesting to take a look at the nips' shit taste regardless.
The closest thing I know of is Araki's own ranking from years back, but you've probably seen it. Has one ever been conducted in these threads?
A video interview from 2006 shows that Josuke is still his favorite, but I think we're due for another poll from him. As for these threads, I only recall people conducting surveys on what their favorite fetishes were along with their favorite JoJo/villain, with Jonathanfags mostly being DIO and Kirafags being Kira.
Twitter also did a survey recently for the most popular JoJo. Joseph came first, followed by Jolyne, then Josuke, then Johnny. Notice something they all have in common?
People say some JoJos are better than other JoJos, but what are they better at? I think Gappy only succeeds Josuke in the romance department, and that's only because Araki forgot to give him a Yasuho.
>what are they better at?
Gappy has a better design, better stand power (although worse stand design), is funnier than Josuke, and is actually the center of his own plot instead of being a random townsperson with no personal connection to the plot
I like him, that's all.
More than Gappy.
It's probably just a bizarre coincidence that the two share the same birthday, I can't find anything relevant to the date that Araki would reference.
>better stand power (although worse stand design)
Exact opposite as far as I'm concerned. Soft & Wet looks amazing, but 'fix shit' has been more interesting to read about than 'steal shit' since it seems like more limited stand power on paper.
>That ORAAA! at the end.
>Jonathan: For everyone to be happy.
>Joseph: English translations of Pink Dark Boy
>Jotaro: Blow-up dolls
>Josuke: money/a girlfriend
>Giorno: Hair products directly from the salon
>Jolyne: Her father's approval/an Ann Summers' gift voucher
>Johnny: His father's approval/a pony
Soft and Wet is way better designed than Crazy Diamond, but I prefer Crazy Diamond's ability to Soft and Wet's as it's still far too vague in its limitations. Different strokes I guess.
Wasn't there another demented short featuring a little bird getting high and having sex with a horse?
Because moeshit always does that.
Johnny and Gyro switch places with Joseph and Caesar.
Could Johnny and Gyro defeat the pillar men? Keep in mind they still have to develop their skills so they can learn hamon or spin as there was no Devil's Palm to develop a stand. Same goes for Joseph and Caesar, who go into the SBR who already know hamon and can develop a stand in that same area. How differently would things play out?
Come on anon, you're better than this
I tried to draw your idea, is it good ?
Joseph will be fine, with his luck and asspulls the only one that can be a threat is Deigo with the world.
Johnny is a cripple that has to use a horse to pose a thread, Hamon won't save him, him and Gyro are fucked beyond salvation.
Caesar is already dead.
Please go back to /v/ if you're not.
S&W it's cool but his power just does everything, if he hits the enemy he could steal his sight, power and probably even life, he can even transfer objects now, tell me what it can't do.
I think Johnny could beat Kars (Either form), because of the fact he is a cripple. Kars would laugh at him and then Johnny shoot a Tusk Act 4 bullet at his face and there goes Kars.
Same reason I think he could defeat Dio.