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Spirit Circle Ch. 39 & 40

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It's finally time some new chapters of Spirit Circle
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>39 & 40
Oh good, cr finally doing this series again.
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Finally. Did crunchy manga die or something?
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>dat last page
Oh boy. Fortuna will die in Fuuta's place just like he saw in his vision. The grudge will end and the two of them will finally hook up.
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Shit is getting way too real.
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>>133029680
Hahah.Weird compliment.
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Sheeeeeit
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>>133029788
Brother-kun never wins
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Chapter 40.
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Jesus Christ, I know this is said every thread but Fortuna is the best villain ever.
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>>133030534
HOLY FUCK
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>>133030386
>>133030313
>>133030269

He may just be the greatest Necromancer I have ever seen
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>>133030704
Oh fuck, its that thing.
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>>133030704
Oh shit
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>>133030704
>>133030792
Fuck you too, Spascifica
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>>133030704
This is why he can't have nice things
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>>133030998
Sheeeiiiiit
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>>133031042
You know, I always wondered how ancient soul feuds worked in other fantasy.
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>>133031273
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>133031273
MIZUKAMI

STOP THIS
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>>133031273
Oh snap
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>>133031273
Oh man, shit just got real
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>>133031273
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>>133031273
This guy just hijack his own reincarnation body.
That's pretty high on the whole evil villain chart.
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This fucking manga
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>>133031273
>The MC was the villain all along
How much have I waited for this day
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>>133031094
Damn,first time I see a main cast death this fast, no monolog and cursing shit for a page or two.
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>>133031273
Now it's time to wait another month, and hope CR doesn't forget about translating it again.
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>>133031273
What the fuck man.Good plan though.
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Shit, how many chapters left?
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>>133031431
But how can he be the villain if he did nothing wrong?
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>>133031273
>Fortuna tries to pretend to be Fuuta
>Gets found out when he gets a good mark on a test
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So fortuna and koko are just going to kill each other again
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This shouldn't work. Fuuta answers the phone in the first chapter.
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>>133032082
Fortuna gets memories and abilities from the body he inhabits.
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did this actually confirm that fortunas era is after lafalles?
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>>133031273
Being incognito going to be hard as fuck with that expression and his personality. They're going to catch on quick.
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>>133032327
Latest chapters confirmed it with the whole Arione name drop.
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>>133032331
I doubt he cares much about that, he just wants to participate in the fight instead of fuuta
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>>133032331
>Being incognito

What if he just goes full King of the Dead right off the bat?
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I've read all the previous chapters of Spirit Circle and I still don't know what the fuck is going on.
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>>133032610
It's about a man trying to make his hot waifu into reality and a stupid stuck up bitch trying to stop him
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I dropped this shit ages ago.

Glad I made the right decision phew.
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How I imagine Rune will sounds like
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>>133032479
ohhh shit that would be tight.
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>>133032829
What?
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Why don't Fortuna realize that he already succeeded turning Rune into human in Flors' era?
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>>133030014
>>133030060
So sad
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>>133032327
>>133032366
You can't know for sure, we know the adopted daughter in Lafalle's era developed a device for observing points in time and we've seen it appear in at least one other life, which means genuine time travel (not just reincarnation) is a real possibility. Arione may very well just be a device that traveled backwards into Fortuna's era.

>>133029141 refers to all 7 lives as future lives too.
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>>133033609
Future lives as in the order his soul is reincarnated into. They weren't in chronological order either, considering Fuuta came after Lafalle
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>>133033369
its just shitposting
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>>133031273
Oh fuck son
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Human perception chronological order:
Egypt -> Europe -> Aztecs -> Sengoku -> Fuuta -> Lafalle -> Fortuna

Female Fuuta is a separate timeline altogether

Soul consciousness order:
Fortuna -> Aztecs -> Egypt -> Fuuta -> Lafalle -> Europe (Ending)

Femfuuta is an alternate ending
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>>133033971
Oh wait Aztecs should be after Europe in the soul consciousness order
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I don't have a crunchyroll account, where can I read all of this?
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>>133034334
Any other manga website, except Batoto.
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It kinda feels like we're building to a conclusion already.
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>>133034486
There's not much to be done once all the past lives have been explored and the present conflict is resolved.
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>>133034589
I hope the end is soon. It's always nice to have a series that knows not to outstay its welcome.
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>>133034803
I'm ready for the end. The manga has been incredible so far, and I'd love for it to end that way.
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I love spooky skeleton king
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Fortuna better not turn good by interacting with Fuuta's friends.

Best scenario he decides to murder them all so he can meet them in the next life.
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>>133036012
His entire goal here is to prevent Fuuta's death (and the destruction of his soul) at the hands of Koko. He's not going to turn good because he already is good.
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>>133030792
So Spascifica is the planet?
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How was he supposed to know this?
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>>133036604

What was he supposed to know? I forget.
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>>133037039
He was supposed to know who (or what) Spascifica was.
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>>133034838
Seems like Sengoku Youko is wrapping up in the near future too. I hope Mizukami has got some new ideas lined up for after; I don't want to be without my Mizukami fix..
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>>133030792
>This planet's spirit
So this means Spacifica is some sort of Gaia Spirit right?
Would it mean the other planets with intelligent specie exist outside of Earth too?
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>>133037367
Next up, battle harem.

Set in a fantasy world.

On a school.

A carpentry school.
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>>133033971
I always forget the rise of the Aztec civilization was as late as it was.
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>>133038035
>It's Mizukami's interpretation of the Ship of Theseus
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Dang, out of all the Mizukami Satoshi manga out there, I really think this one would make a pretty stellar anime.

I can already see a lot of the scenes animated, just imagining the transitions of lifetimes from >>133028973 and >>133029033 in color with music is giving me a boner.
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>>133037367
Wani Oniisan continuation

>getting keked by past lives the manga
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>>133039013
I want to see the earth destruction animated as well as koko's reaction when he nonchalantly tells her the earth was destroyed.

Actually setting of the tower of souls arc was truly amazing and i would read a 20 tankoubon manga taking place in it

>fuuta and koko nonchalantly chatting about their weird dreams as they're cleaning the tower for years
>their mono no aware SOL raising their genetically engineered kid.
>While fuuta leads a double life as a rebel
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>>133039262
Spascifica is Animus
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>>133039357

It took me like a year to realize the master was animus
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>>133030534
WHAT
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>>133039893
See:
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>>133032610
Everything.
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I'm always surprised at how mizukami satoshi can resolve romantic plots and love triangle plots without making it feel like the protagonist is cukced out of his harem end, probably because his characters are so chill when something emotionally moving happens you're only hung up on it as long as the characters are still hung up on it.

>praying for shinsuke's eternal happiness where he has the best life anyone could possibly have at the end of sengoku youko
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>Spascifica was the planets spirit the whole time and not a villain at all.

Well damn.
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>people forgetting this was already spoiled in the girl version/alternate dimension chapter and how they plan to counter the take over
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>>133040457
>forgetting
>implying that it's possible to remember spirit circle's information overload clusterfuck chapters
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>>133030201
>Flappa Flappa
My sides can't handle this shit
I know it says 'Basa Basa' which is the onomatopoeia for their capes flapping, but seriously?
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>>133040339
>being such a threat to all life on the planet that the planet's spirit itself tells you to calm down
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>>133040655
Honestly, I forgot too, and the end of this chapter was neat as fuck for me, then I remembered the alien chapter and was actually glad I had forgotten.

Obviously they are going to trap Fortuna's soul, the only question left is if Fuuta still dies or not to completely snuff out Fortuna's soul forever.
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The entire manga could be averted if Fuuta hopped on a train to hokkaido to start a life of cohabitation with rune and never saw the crazy bitch trying to kill him again. It's not like she could find him if he just did it spur of the moment
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>>133040846
I think Fortuna is going to become a completely separate soul from fuuta and his past lives.
Something along the lines of "all the soul energy fractured his spirit" or some shit. The personality know as fortuna was always some kind of parasitic negative spirit entity type thing that had been hitching a ride on fuuta's soul.

Koko is gonna split fuuta and fortuna (even though she doesn't know) and the part that's gonna dissapear will only be fortuna's half, Rune also probably knows more than she's letting on.

This is sorta hinted at when fuuta argues with fortuna about how fortuna keeps pretending he's smart even though they're the same person and Fuuta has some of the worst grades
But ultimately spascifica is gonna deus ex machina the shit outta this story anyways

>>133039357
>the ghost in the soul tower was the planet's soul (spascifica) but it was so weak that it could only lead Fuuta into destroying the towers and freeing the souls, thus releasing the planet's trapped soul energy.
>too bad the whole earth exploded poor spascifica

Holy shit I just realized this
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>>133030313
cool page.
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>>133040457
Whoa, they did? Time to go back and reread that arc, unless someone wants to post the relevant pages here.
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>>133041687
How did they translate this shit?
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>>133040846
Why does Fortuna have to die though? I mean it's been made excessively clear that he knows something more and it's continually hinted at that the future isn't set. I have a feeling he's doing what he's doing for some other reason than just having Rune be human. My assumption is he just wants to stay with East, Rune, and Koko forever in a consistent infinity, and that his only goal is to stop Koko from killing Fuuta and finally making amends so they can fuck into oblivion. Also it's clear that all the spirit circle does is make the individual conscious of their past lives and connect them to another. How else would all of the friends of Fortuna and Koko constantly come back throughout the arcs? It seems to me that the cycle is present regardless of Fortuna's actions, which just leads me to question what the fuck he's doing.
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>>133042292
He sums it all up here >>133029330. He is basically trying to become god. Making Rune is just one of things he would do once he obtains that power, of course it involves destroying the current universe though, which pretty much no one but him wants.
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>>133042292
Doesn't he just represent the ultimate human idea of "Not wanting to ever die (not exist)" he just wants to "be" forever, rune becoming human is just a side benefit for her years of service.

This behavior is even more parasitic than it is human which further fuels my "he's latched onto fuuta's soul" theory. He's basically the ultimate egoist and can't agree with anything else
>everyone besides those i care about can eat shit
He fundamentally lacks empathy

The spirit circle is like a deus ex tool that let's you manipulate spirit shit, being able to remember/view past/future lives is just a single function. Sorta like how programs run on a piece of hardware, the spirit circle is essentially hardware for spirit manipulation. This is why it's the ultimate invention for fortuna, a user interface to bridge between the physical and spirit
>How else would all of the friends of Fortuna and Koko constantly come back throughout the arcs
maybe spirits are attracted to each other and attracted to interacting is similar manners sorta like how certain molecules are ect ect, until the spirit becomes "complete" like rei's did and (we don't know what happens next maybe it becomes an alien)

What striking each other with the circles did was make it so that Koko and Fortuna's past/future lives would always interact in the form of one-sided or mutually destructive conflict. Neither one of their spirits will become "complete" and they'll continue to clash unable to form bonds.

My question is that what happens to koko's spirit? Does she have past/future lives where Fuuta doesn't exist because she's destroyed his spirit? Can she view those lives? Does that mean she's sure she destroyed Fortuna's spirit?

Or could that mean that Fuuta/Fortuna's spirit wasn't destroyed, but became "complete" in Fuuta's timeline?
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>>133042643
I just have a hard time believing its for shot and giggle. There has to be something more he's planning. It all seems so pointless and too temporary, considering he's already been and will continue to be his past and future selfs.
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>>133042831
And technically he's had 8 lives as the lafelle arc split into two realities. I honestly don't understand what the spirit circles actually do outside of relocating energy and bonding it.
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>>133042923
Hell possibly more. He said in one of those pages that the life he had already lived (Fuuta's death) wasn't set in stone, meaning he could have a ridiculous amount of lives or alternate lives/realities. This shit really confuses me. I don't think the spirit circle has anything to do with the reincarnation though.
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>>133042923
I was waiting for fuuta to experience being a girl and losing his virginity in the genderbent life arc but no dice
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>>133043006
I guess that net given to him by the aliens blocked out he observation of that time line
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>>133041687
>will have her hands full when fighting an incarnation hijacked by Fortuna
FUCK HE LITERALLY TOLD US ABOUT FORTUNA'S GAMEPLAN THAT LONG AGO.
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>>133042923
I don't even bother considering the multiverse stuff because it would invalidate the stories entire conflict because you can just tell yourself "well everything probably worked out fine in some other reality so even if things get bad here at least some protagonist is happy out there" and it ruins the mood while reading it
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>>133043060
SHIT

I feel like a fuckin fool for being shocked when i read the new chapter
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ANIME WHEN
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>>133043073
that's one of the reasons why the ending to negima sucked.
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>>133029401

This is... a surprisingly good theory.
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both of them have to die, or else it's really weird that both of their spirit circles only have 7 incarnations
especially since fortuna just proved you can see incarnations that come after you.
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>>133041687
Wasn't all this text crossed out in the raws?

I don't think we were supposed to know this.
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>>133041687
>>133045351
Yeah, I was right.
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Good end all four reincarnate in each other's lives forever
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>>133045475
>We know more than the nips
>Western global supremacy in effect
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>>133045519
it can't work koko and rune will forever lust after fortuna's geniuspenis and East will be kekzoned forever
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>>133037190
Spascifica is Fuuta maybe?
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>>133045792
It's Rei.
Didn't you even read the manga?
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>>133043073
Multiverses aren't safe if Fortuna consumes them with his circle.
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Seems like they got a better translator for Spirit Circle. The style and localization choices are a tad more thought out and flavorful than previous chapters.

>>133033154
I read her lines in Kanemoto Hisako's voice.
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FUCK COCO
FUCK SPACIFICA
THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS
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>>133032610
The quest of a man desperately trying to obtain happiness but is constantly denied from it by the world a bitch
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>>133046497
To be fair, the man's an asshole too. Fuuta's cool but Fortuna is the biggest asshole the world has seen since Animus.
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You guys ever wake up from a dream only to not wake up as "yourself" but as the dream "you"? Like you're there on your bed with a whole set of other memories of another life in another world that you are intimately familiar with and you're completely lost at where you are for like half a minute or so until the dream 'you" suddenly dissipates away like a cloud of steam or smoke getting blown away by a hand passing through and you come back to your senses.and all those memories just seep out till only a little bit of it is left? It always feels like I just suddenly stop being when that happens.
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>>133029330
>evil simon
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>>133033507
That wasn't Rune, it was Rei.
Where is that image of all the characters across lifetimes when it's nedeed?
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>>133046750
Read "The Long Dream" by Junji Ito
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>>133029788
Goddammit, the brother suffer in all timeline. I really hope Fuuta's new sister doesn't inherit his bad luck.
>>133031273
I wonder what's Fortuna's plan after beating Kouko, retry spiritual transformation ritual? I hope he have a plan against Spascifica this time.
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>>133045955
Can fortuna consume something so infinitely large? not if the bro aliens stop him
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>>133046850
>That wasn't Rune, it was Rei.
>Implying Rei isn't Rune
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>>133045475
Well, it's crossed out, but I presume it's ultimately readable if you take the time.
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>>133041687
See this is why no one should be shocked that this happened.

Also it's X in the raws because Fortuna couldn't read what they said.
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>>133045740
>kekzoned
kek

East is best bro
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Why is Fortuna even considered a villain?
Guy just has a different approach to things, that's all.
Coco's the one causing the ruckus.
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>>133051652
His "different approach" is through destroying the world, becoming god, and remaking it to his liking.

Like, as chill as he is about it, he's very much a standard insane cartoon villain.
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>>133051652
>>133051787
He made baby skeleton soldiers and made then dance the bone dance
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>>133051652
He killed thousands of people and he was planing to destroy the world. He's a fucking villain.
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I THINK I GOT IT NOW.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXFSK0ogeg4
Fortuna is the best character in the manga. Can't wait to see what he does next.
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>>133031273
Oh shit, I told myself I'm ready for whatever happen next but I wasn't ready for this
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>>133047681
Neat read but I was genuinely asking cause last time I woke up like this it was also a day a spirit circle release thread popped up, chapter 37 I think. IIrc that was the time I woke up in bed wondering why I wasn't bedridden in a hospital room and why I was young man and this morning I was some shaman or something chasing after a pair of girls who got away in the woods around a crater lake with an island in the middle of it right before the ritual bleedout for immortality would start. I was definitely not "me" when I woke up.
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But who were the aliens?
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Shit, if Rei is out there as a reincarnation of Rune, does that mean Fortuna succeeds at becoming a god and makes her human?
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So, it's Spascifica's job to maintain life and the reincarnation cycle as the Spirit of the World.
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>>133051787
>>133051894
>>133052333
>Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
Damn hypocrites, human history is full of bloodshed justified by bullshit reasons.
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>>133030534
AW SHIT SON
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>>133030704
>>133030792
Aw come on Spascifica, I wanted to see him make Rune real
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>>133031273
OH SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
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>>133029244
No, spoilers!
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Well, shit. It was obvious he'd do it, but yet to see it really happening is amusing. This chapter was too hype.
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>>133048054
at least in this life he goes out like a boss
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>>133030313
>Dat Buddhist halo
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>>133048063
They wouldn't be there it they thought he couldn't.
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>>133053071
If Rei was Rune, she'd be bound to appear in every life as Fortuna even repeated himself, she is part of his own Spirit.

Rein being Spascifica or a part of it that was absorved when Fortuna became Father from FMA makes lots of sense.
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>>133032331
he got influenced by all his other personalities beforehand

so people probably wouldn't find it weird anymore
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>Fortuna's past can't live up the hype there's no way they can top the future arc there's no way they can make Fortuna both an evil fuck yet as realistic and sympathetic as the other reincarnations

BASED MIZUKAMI
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>>133055733
I am still disappointed. Fortuna's arc hardly tops Lafalle's and only gets close because this chapter was ridiculously good.
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>>133055559
I think rune isn't artificial at all but a portion of fortuna's spirit that contained his empathy (when rune was made that's when he really started going off the deep end), he just doesn't realize that.

>If Rei was Rune, she'd be bound to appear in every life as Fortuna even repeated himself,
But they say reincarnation isn't linear so it could be something like

>Rune is made in Fortuna's time
>Rune becomes human in Fuuta's time
>reincarnates as Rei in Aztec times
>becomes Rei in middle ages where she "gets everything she needs" out of the relationship with fuuta/fortuna and doesn't reincarnate with him again
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>>133056201
I say it got good when Fortuna became mad scientist necromancer
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>>133056642
And I say it got good when he became quasi Devour of Worlds.

A mad genius tyrant necromancer is just too meh.
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Satoshi Mizukami has to be one of the most underrated mangakas in history. Including this manga I've read Hoshi no Samidare and Sengoku Youko. All three mangas are amazing. Would love to see an adaptation of at least one of his works.
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What if Rune is Rei because Fortuna internally can't accept the notion that he'll never see her again due to her having "gotten everything she needed" out of the retalionship?
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>>133041687
How would you guys feel if these Aliens are actually East and Rune.
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>>133051652
Fortuna has no understanding of right and wrong in the conventional sense. He even acknowledged it in chapter 38 I think. What's humorous to me is that Fortuna obviously wants to be with East Koko and Rune but his amorality is preventing this. Fuuta is his one chance at achieving his dream and he's actively sabotaging it himself.
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>>133031273
I'm cumming so hard right now my willy is tickling.
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>>133056866
It's the buildup that counts.

He went from being super genius, to mad scientist, to a family man, to a MASS MURDERER, to an incidental terrorist, to Necromancer, to ACTUAL terrorist, and he'd have become the universe in itself if it weren't for Spascifica. Lafalle's arc had the most "intrigue" to it so it remains the most interesting. Especially with that ending.

This was more of an "Answers" arc where shit goes down and continues to go down forever until the manga ends. Now I'm rereading things.
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>>133059706
But there is no right or wrong in this world really. I mean people are literally harvesting souls out of the ground to the point of depleting them and the simple fact that everything is in a constant cycle removes any wrongdoing Fortuna has done. I mean in reality all he's really done is effectively compress multiple realities and universes into a single chain. The dead aren't really dead as they will just be reborn again at some point.
Fortuna's only flaw is his lack of understanding humanity and himself. He doesn't realize how badly he wants to be with East, Koko and Rune. Hell, he was completely in the right during the Lafelle arc. That was the one big sin of this entire manga, was the keeping of souls in order to stop the cycle of rebirth, and he made sure it continued forward.
>>133059316
They have to be of some importance, thought o what extent I'm not sure.
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>>133061868
There's a difference there though. Non-human spirit matter doesn't have the same level of consciousness that human Spirit Matter does.
You can see that in here and when they talked about the beasts in this chapter: >>133029788

It's only considered taboo to make humanoid spirits. Master Rei held non-human spirit matter a lot more highly than the rest. When she went to the spirit forge to consult with them, her opinions on that matter came out. It leaves the world barren. But society's overwhelming opinion doesn't care since spirit energy is cleaner and less efficient than waste caused by material energy.
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>>133061868
I think by consuming the energy of multiple potential realities he's effectively a huge permanent soul genocide for his own personal gain. He's not compressing into a chain but destroying them for profit.
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>>133062548
>>133060274
If we can assume the world is a single giant consciousness then its safe to say all universes are as well, in which case by harvesting their energies he's funneling them into his single world, meaning all consciousness is just amplified rather than destroyed and used for his purposes. Granted it's selfish, but its not genocide.
>>133062531
Spescifica proves the world has consciousness on par with humans. He is literally the planets consciousness from what we can tell.
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>Mizukami Satoshi's oneshots
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>>133062669
When the Spirit Forges funneled the spirit matter from the land, the land does not grow back. Likewise, in >>133029959
when he takes the energy necessary to create a world possibility, he causes it to disappear. He is consuming causality. You can consider it the death of "possibility". And since multiple worlds and dimensions "exist", removing their ability to sustain themselves is as good as killing it.

The two sides of this debate though is starting to resemble whether or not it's ethical to have an abortion. No wonder human spirits are banned.
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>>133063050
It momentarily become barren at the last. It's likely similar to what we saw during the Lafelle arc. The land becomes barren because the spirits are in use. I mean this is all theory bullshit, but I'm just considering things from what we've seen thus far. I think the morality of it depends on whether or not the spirit energy he is using can return once he destroys the spirit circle, because as it is it seems to be the same as the tower, simply storing souls without them truly living or thinking or doing much of anything other than powering himself.
I could see this ending like butterfly effect with the spirit circle breaking and the cycle of Koko and Fortuna restarting without them remembering or hating each other. I just find it hard to believe that we'd go through the whole Lafelle arc and learn that you can put all the souls back into the universe without it having something to do with the future of the story.
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>>133028942
Why two chapters? CR had delay? I noticed that Kawaisou also has two new chapters
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>>133063400
Yes, CR forgot last month chapter.
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Do you think Fortuna is probably still a virgin at his age?
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>>133063627
Heroes must always be vigins.
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>>133063687
>walking through one of his skeleton cities
>sees this
>"normalfags go die"
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>>133033971
why is Europe the ending in the Soul Consciousness order?
Shouldn't it be 3rd since every era after Fuuta had the mark on his cheek?
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>>133062531
> star spirits

Oh, I bet that was 星 which can also mean planet.
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>>133034838
Each volume is about seven volumes long, and we're about two chapters into volume 5. Seems like a good length.
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>>133066055
Volume 5 is already out, and started with chapter 30.
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>>133066055
>Each volume is about 7 volumes long
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>>133055559
Rei is an ancient goddess of war, and her assistant is the fairy Rune, but Rune's statue was destroyed in a war long ago. I figure they were time-traveling Rei and Rune.
>yfw Rei shows up again as a proactive co-protagonist
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>>133062856
>Ryoko Kui and Satoshi Mizukami team up for the Underrated Mangaka Singularity
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