It's finally time some new chapters of Spirit Circle
This guy just hijack his own reincarnation body.
That's pretty high on the whole evil villain chart.
I've read all the previous chapters of Spirit Circle and I still don't know what the fuck is going on.
You can't know for sure, we know the adopted daughter in Lafalle's era developed a device for observing points in time and we've seen it appear in at least one other life, which means genuine time travel (not just reincarnation) is a real possibility. Arione may very well just be a device that traveled backwards into Fortuna's era.
>>133029141 refers to all 7 lives as future lives too.
Human perception chronological order:
Egypt -> Europe -> Aztecs -> Sengoku -> Fuuta -> Lafalle -> Fortuna
Female Fuuta is a separate timeline altogether
Soul consciousness order:
Fortuna -> Aztecs -> Egypt -> Fuuta -> Lafalle -> Europe (Ending)
Femfuuta is an alternate ending
He was supposed to know who (or what) Spascifica was.
Dang, out of all the Mizukami Satoshi manga out there, I really think this one would make a pretty stellar anime.
I can already see a lot of the scenes animated, just imagining the transitions of lifetimes from >>133028973 and >>133029033 in color with music is giving me a boner.
Wani Oniisan continuation
>getting keked by past lives the manga
I want to see the earth destruction animated as well as koko's reaction when he nonchalantly tells her the earth was destroyed.
Actually setting of the tower of souls arc was truly amazing and i would read a 20 tankoubon manga taking place in it
>fuuta and koko nonchalantly chatting about their weird dreams as they're cleaning the tower for years
>their mono no aware SOL raising their genetically engineered kid.
>While fuuta leads a double life as a rebel
I'm always surprised at how mizukami satoshi can resolve romantic plots and love triangle plots without making it feel like the protagonist is cukced out of his harem end, probably because his characters are so chill when something emotionally moving happens you're only hung up on it as long as the characters are still hung up on it.
>praying for shinsuke's eternal happiness where he has the best life anyone could possibly have at the end of sengoku youko
Honestly, I forgot too, and the end of this chapter was neat as fuck for me, then I remembered the alien chapter and was actually glad I had forgotten.
Obviously they are going to trap Fortuna's soul, the only question left is if Fuuta still dies or not to completely snuff out Fortuna's soul forever.
The entire manga could be averted if Fuuta hopped on a train to hokkaido to start a life of cohabitation with rune and never saw the crazy bitch trying to kill him again. It's not like she could find him if he just did it spur of the moment
I think Fortuna is going to become a completely separate soul from fuuta and his past lives.
Something along the lines of "all the soul energy fractured his spirit" or some shit. The personality know as fortuna was always some kind of parasitic negative spirit entity type thing that had been hitching a ride on fuuta's soul.
Koko is gonna split fuuta and fortuna (even though she doesn't know) and the part that's gonna dissapear will only be fortuna's half, Rune also probably knows more than she's letting on.
This is sorta hinted at when fuuta argues with fortuna about how fortuna keeps pretending he's smart even though they're the same person and Fuuta has some of the worst grades
But ultimately spascifica is gonna deus ex machina the shit outta this story anyways
>the ghost in the soul tower was the planet's soul (spascifica) but it was so weak that it could only lead Fuuta into destroying the towers and freeing the souls, thus releasing the planet's trapped soul energy.
>too bad the whole earth exploded poor spascifica
Holy shit I just realized this
Why does Fortuna have to die though? I mean it's been made excessively clear that he knows something more and it's continually hinted at that the future isn't set. I have a feeling he's doing what he's doing for some other reason than just having Rune be human. My assumption is he just wants to stay with East, Rune, and Koko forever in a consistent infinity, and that his only goal is to stop Koko from killing Fuuta and finally making amends so they can fuck into oblivion. Also it's clear that all the spirit circle does is make the individual conscious of their past lives and connect them to another. How else would all of the friends of Fortuna and Koko constantly come back throughout the arcs? It seems to me that the cycle is present regardless of Fortuna's actions, which just leads me to question what the fuck he's doing.
He sums it all up here >>133029330. He is basically trying to become god. Making Rune is just one of things he would do once he obtains that power, of course it involves destroying the current universe though, which pretty much no one but him wants.
Doesn't he just represent the ultimate human idea of "Not wanting to ever die (not exist)" he just wants to "be" forever, rune becoming human is just a side benefit for her years of service.
This behavior is even more parasitic than it is human which further fuels my "he's latched onto fuuta's soul" theory. He's basically the ultimate egoist and can't agree with anything else
>everyone besides those i care about can eat shit
He fundamentally lacks empathy
The spirit circle is like a deus ex tool that let's you manipulate spirit shit, being able to remember/view past/future lives is just a single function. Sorta like how programs run on a piece of hardware, the spirit circle is essentially hardware for spirit manipulation. This is why it's the ultimate invention for fortuna, a user interface to bridge between the physical and spirit
>How else would all of the friends of Fortuna and Koko constantly come back throughout the arcs
maybe spirits are attracted to each other and attracted to interacting is similar manners sorta like how certain molecules are ect ect, until the spirit becomes "complete" like rei's did and (we don't know what happens next maybe it becomes an alien)
What striking each other with the circles did was make it so that Koko and Fortuna's past/future lives would always interact in the form of one-sided or mutually destructive conflict. Neither one of their spirits will become "complete" and they'll continue to clash unable to form bonds.
My question is that what happens to koko's spirit? Does she have past/future lives where Fuuta doesn't exist because she's destroyed his spirit? Can she view those lives? Does that mean she's sure she destroyed Fortuna's spirit?
Or could that mean that Fuuta/Fortuna's spirit wasn't destroyed, but became "complete" in Fuuta's timeline?
I just have a hard time believing its for shot and giggle. There has to be something more he's planning. It all seems so pointless and too temporary, considering he's already been and will continue to be his past and future selfs.
And technically he's had 8 lives as the lafelle arc split into two realities. I honestly don't understand what the spirit circles actually do outside of relocating energy and bonding it.
Hell possibly more. He said in one of those pages that the life he had already lived (Fuuta's death) wasn't set in stone, meaning he could have a ridiculous amount of lives or alternate lives/realities. This shit really confuses me. I don't think the spirit circle has anything to do with the reincarnation though.
I don't even bother considering the multiverse stuff because it would invalidate the stories entire conflict because you can just tell yourself "well everything probably worked out fine in some other reality so even if things get bad here at least some protagonist is happy out there" and it ruins the mood while reading it
I feel like a fuckin fool for being shocked when i read the new chapter
both of them have to die, or else it's really weird that both of their spirit circles only have 7 incarnations
especially since fortuna just proved you can see incarnations that come after you.
Yeah, I was right.
Seems like they got a better translator for Spirit Circle. The style and localization choices are a tad more thought out and flavorful than previous chapters.
I read her lines in Kanemoto Hisako's voice.
THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS
You guys ever wake up from a dream only to not wake up as "yourself" but as the dream "you"? Like you're there on your bed with a whole set of other memories of another life in another world that you are intimately familiar with and you're completely lost at where you are for like half a minute or so until the dream 'you" suddenly dissipates away like a cloud of steam or smoke getting blown away by a hand passing through and you come back to your senses.and all those memories just seep out till only a little bit of it is left? It always feels like I just suddenly stop being when that happens.
Goddammit, the brother suffer in all timeline. I really hope Fuuta's new sister doesn't inherit his bad luck.
I wonder what's Fortuna's plan after beating Kouko, retry spiritual transformation ritual? I hope he have a plan against Spascifica this time.
His "different approach" is through destroying the world, becoming god, and remaking it to his liking.
Like, as chill as he is about it, he's very much a standard insane cartoon villain.
He made baby skeleton soldiers and made then dance the bone dance
Neat read but I was genuinely asking cause last time I woke up like this it was also a day a spirit circle release thread popped up, chapter 37 I think. IIrc that was the time I woke up in bed wondering why I wasn't bedridden in a hospital room and why I was young man and this morning I was some shaman or something chasing after a pair of girls who got away in the woods around a crater lake with an island in the middle of it right before the ritual bleedout for immortality would start. I was definitely not "me" when I woke up.
So, it's Spascifica's job to maintain life and the reincarnation cycle as the Spirit of the World.
If Rei was Rune, she'd be bound to appear in every life as Fortuna even repeated himself, she is part of his own Spirit.
Rein being Spascifica or a part of it that was absorved when Fortuna became Father from FMA makes lots of sense.
>Fortuna's past can't live up the hype there's no way they can top the future arc there's no way they can make Fortuna both an evil fuck yet as realistic and sympathetic as the other reincarnations
I think rune isn't artificial at all but a portion of fortuna's spirit that contained his empathy (when rune was made that's when he really started going off the deep end), he just doesn't realize that.
>If Rei was Rune, she'd be bound to appear in every life as Fortuna even repeated himself,
But they say reincarnation isn't linear so it could be something like
>Rune is made in Fortuna's time
>Rune becomes human in Fuuta's time
>reincarnates as Rei in Aztec times
>becomes Rei in middle ages where she "gets everything she needs" out of the relationship with fuuta/fortuna and doesn't reincarnate with him again
Satoshi Mizukami has to be one of the most underrated mangakas in history. Including this manga I've read Hoshi no Samidare and Sengoku Youko. All three mangas are amazing. Would love to see an adaptation of at least one of his works.
Fortuna has no understanding of right and wrong in the conventional sense. He even acknowledged it in chapter 38 I think. What's humorous to me is that Fortuna obviously wants to be with East Koko and Rune but his amorality is preventing this. Fuuta is his one chance at achieving his dream and he's actively sabotaging it himself.
It's the buildup that counts.
He went from being super genius, to mad scientist, to a family man, to a MASS MURDERER, to an incidental terrorist, to Necromancer, to ACTUAL terrorist, and he'd have become the universe in itself if it weren't for Spascifica. Lafalle's arc had the most "intrigue" to it so it remains the most interesting. Especially with that ending.
This was more of an "Answers" arc where shit goes down and continues to go down forever until the manga ends. Now I'm rereading things.
But there is no right or wrong in this world really. I mean people are literally harvesting souls out of the ground to the point of depleting them and the simple fact that everything is in a constant cycle removes any wrongdoing Fortuna has done. I mean in reality all he's really done is effectively compress multiple realities and universes into a single chain. The dead aren't really dead as they will just be reborn again at some point.
Fortuna's only flaw is his lack of understanding humanity and himself. He doesn't realize how badly he wants to be with East, Koko and Rune. Hell, he was completely in the right during the Lafelle arc. That was the one big sin of this entire manga, was the keeping of souls in order to stop the cycle of rebirth, and he made sure it continued forward.
They have to be of some importance, thought o what extent I'm not sure.
There's a difference there though. Non-human spirit matter doesn't have the same level of consciousness that human Spirit Matter does.
You can see that in here and when they talked about the beasts in this chapter: >>133029788
It's only considered taboo to make humanoid spirits. Master Rei held non-human spirit matter a lot more highly than the rest. When she went to the spirit forge to consult with them, her opinions on that matter came out. It leaves the world barren. But society's overwhelming opinion doesn't care since spirit energy is cleaner and less efficient than waste caused by material energy.
I think by consuming the energy of multiple potential realities he's effectively a huge permanent soul genocide for his own personal gain. He's not compressing into a chain but destroying them for profit.
If we can assume the world is a single giant consciousness then its safe to say all universes are as well, in which case by harvesting their energies he's funneling them into his single world, meaning all consciousness is just amplified rather than destroyed and used for his purposes. Granted it's selfish, but its not genocide.
Spescifica proves the world has consciousness on par with humans. He is literally the planets consciousness from what we can tell.
When the Spirit Forges funneled the spirit matter from the land, the land does not grow back. Likewise, in >>133029959
when he takes the energy necessary to create a world possibility, he causes it to disappear. He is consuming causality. You can consider it the death of "possibility". And since multiple worlds and dimensions "exist", removing their ability to sustain themselves is as good as killing it.
The two sides of this debate though is starting to resemble whether or not it's ethical to have an abortion. No wonder human spirits are banned.
It momentarily become barren at the last. It's likely similar to what we saw during the Lafelle arc. The land becomes barren because the spirits are in use. I mean this is all theory bullshit, but I'm just considering things from what we've seen thus far. I think the morality of it depends on whether or not the spirit energy he is using can return once he destroys the spirit circle, because as it is it seems to be the same as the tower, simply storing souls without them truly living or thinking or doing much of anything other than powering himself.
I could see this ending like butterfly effect with the spirit circle breaking and the cycle of Koko and Fortuna restarting without them remembering or hating each other. I just find it hard to believe that we'd go through the whole Lafelle arc and learn that you can put all the souls back into the universe without it having something to do with the future of the story.
Do you think Fortuna is probably still a virgin at his age?
>walking through one of his skeleton cities
>"normalfags go die"
Rei is an ancient goddess of war, and her assistant is the fairy Rune, but Rune's statue was destroyed in a war long ago. I figure they were time-traveling Rei and Rune.
>yfw Rei shows up again as a proactive co-protagonist
>Ryoko Kui and Satoshi Mizukami team up for the Underrated Mangaka Singularity