Why is the Catholic Church always so badass in anime?
Because mormon jesus is fucking cool yo
>Head out to conquer the holy land but decide the way is too long and kill your neighbors instead.
>Head out to conquer the holy land again but decide the way is too long and burn down the last bastion of Eastern Rome instead.
>Head out to conquer the holy land, then watch your king drown in a fucking river and go home.
Why is there always a super secret division of the church for assassination
It's just like why there are religious symbols in NGE. Anno has said they just used it because it looks cool. Japan doesn't have the same relationship with Christianity that we do here in the west. To them it's more esoteric and the average Jap probably doesn't know too much about it.
They know what christianity is, they just don't know what the vatican or catholicism is. The ones that have their churches made of bones and corpses which they find strange and dark.
Give me a sexy catholic nun over those shitty lolis.
>Why is there always a super secret division of the church for assassination
They can't have assassins in the main 'forces' can they?
But once in a while, when they need some asses kicked in the name of the lord there's always some shadowy, officially non existent group to take care of that.
>The crusades were a reaction to over a thousand years on non-stop Islamic invasions of Europe.
Except they weren't and no historian worth his salt adheres to that falsity.
You probably believe in something called 'the dark ages' as well don't you pleb?
Don't forget this walking death machine.
I don't know what he's talking about with a thousand years but there was hella islamic incursions against europe. The fucking byzantines asked the pope for help it got so bad.
Because the church is essentially more powerful than nation, simply because it controls its followers psychologically (through beliefs that if you step out of line, you go to hell) rather than physical power like a state has (you step out of line, you go to jail or are killed by our forces),
Having an assassination unit would be the perfect way to silence critics of the church that could seriously damage its reputation.
Orthodoxy does nothing besides looking like high level wizards.
And Latin chanting > Greek chanting
On the inside it's anything but that anymore, it's more like this faggot >>132660316
>WHO WE ARE
>Are these church people weirdos, nerds, hypocrites and heretics?
>Short answer: yup!
>And if you're a weirdo, nerd, hypocrite or heretic, there's room for you, too.
>Our congregation is about 40% LGBTQ. We are old, middle-aged, and mostly young (our biggest demographics are under age 5, and age 22 to 45). Folks stuck on our church were raised Roman Catholic, UCC, fundamentalist evangelical, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Mormon, Unitarian, Jewish, atheist, agnostic, and the fastest-growing religious demographic in America, "none." We are Black, Latino, Asian, multiracial, and (mostly, but we're working on it) Anglo. Our families are one-parent, two-parent, adoptive, bio, queer, straight, family of choice, happily single, and all-of-the-above. We tend to be theologically ultra-progressive but we love the healthy tension that comes from stimulating dialogue and difference.
>Most of all: we are perfectly imperfect.
More like the Crusades was the Pope's best plan to get those crazy warlords to attack a common enemy instead of killing each other and sacking and pillaging the cities of Europe.
No one likes losers.
You guys wouldn't even exist anymore if you didn't manage to trick drunk Russian savages into thinking they entered the Heavens when they visited Hagia Sophia.
That sounds like the average protestant church.
Like it has absolutly nothing to do with christianity anymore.
But I love the catholic self-understanding
>Your majesty, we, the Catholic clergy, have done our best to destroy the church for the last 1,800 years. We have not succeeded, and neither will you
Seicon no qwaser.
And this is why translating the Bible to peasant languages was a mistake.
Burn all Protestants.
Current western society has less peasants than Ancient Greece did when the bible was written. If anything, it was translated from a peasant language to a language of computer techies.
>people literally offer their souls to the Jewish god by following its offshoot peasant religion that was only started to make the population docile and bow down to authority instead of stand up for themselves and protect their communities like pagan religions promoted
Jesus preached to the peasantry and other commoners, he drew his disciples from them, his message was made for them, not neo-pharisees with their heads up their asses such as the Catholic clergy.
>pagan. Its roots have nothing to do with religion, instead its original meaning was simply something stuck in the ground as a landmark.
Over time it was extended to refer not just to the landmark itself, but the area around it, and then finally the people living there. Eventually it came to mean any citizen of a town or city. When Christianity came along with the notion that its followers were metaphorical soldiers of God, to be a mere citizen meant you were outside the faith — a heathen — where the meaning of the word has finally settled today.
>not worshipping the gods of your ancestors
>worshipping Yahweh instead, which is just another version of the god of Babylon
There's a reason western civilization flourished in the arts and sciences under the old Greek and Roman religions and began stagnating once Christianity was instated.
Christianity is a tool that destroys and consumes native belief systems and replaces them with a sanitized, dumbed down form of Judaism meant for non-Jews.
the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra — that is, when in the exercise of his office as pastor and teacher of all Christians he defines, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the whole Church — is, by reason of the Divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer wished His Church to be endowed in defining doctrines of faith and morals; and consequently that such definitions of the Roman Pontiff are irreformable of their own nature (ex sese) and not by reason of the Church's consent"
Their schools are pretty cute too.
>tfw it's too late for revive the Byzantine Empire and save Europe with power of the true Rome and true faith
My ancestors have been christian for ~1500-1400 years
>god of babylon
>began stagnating once Christianity was instated.
Literally not true
And don't come with "muh dark ages"
like sacking a christian city of Constantinopolis and greatly accelerating the death of the ERE which greatly helped the ottomans to advance into europe
or how about teutons being so power-hungry that they ended up at war with Poland of all places, a catholic nation
basically crusaders are useless fucks
Anglicanism > Catholicism.
And they were pagan for at least twice that amount of time before that. Yahweh is what Marduk became when the Babylonians just said fuck it and got rid of the rest of their pantheon and gave those gods' qualities to him. And yes, human progress did begin stagnating, because the church was too busy executing anyone who dared think outside the limits of the Bible as a heretic. Why do you think the Renaissance period was such a huge step forward? Because Europeans dared to look back at pagan Greece and Rome and look at those ideas again.
>Yahweh is what Marduk became when the Babylonians just said fuck it and got rid of the rest of their pantheon and gave those gods' qualities to him
Where did you hear this bullshit from, give a source if you have anything to back it up.
Holy fucking shit.
You actualy believe in the pop-sci dark ages.
Like read a history book please.
>Yahweh is what Marduk became when the Babylonians just said fuck it and got rid of the rest of their pantheon and gave those gods' qualities to him.
Except they are very much different.
Where's creation ex nihilo in Babylonian mythology?
Or the condemnation of idols
Like is this from some Zeitgeist documentary?
I'm an optimist. I like to believe that people who do dumb shit like romanticize failed states like the Byzantine empire or misunderstand modern historians' tendency to avoid using the term Dark Ages to mean that the period between the barbarian invasions and the Carolingian Renaissance wasn't actually that bad at all would go to /his/, post their usual bullshit, and get educated on the subject by people who actually know at least a little bit about what they're talking about.
The problem is that most retards don't know what the term dark ages refers to.
Which is kinda why they try to avoid it.
so what you're saying is that we should have a history board for debunking stereotypes, myths and misconceptions?
>why is something in 2D better than IRL?
I don't know anon, CK 2 isn't really a good indicator of anything.
Last time I played it, I brought back the almighty Roman Empire with relative ease, and on another playthrough I turned the buddhist afghan kingdom into a military superpower able to defend from Abbasid incursions and conquer it's neighbours.
The British monarch is the boss on paper while the Archbishop of Canterbury is the boss in reality.
Think of it like head of state/head of government distinction.
Get rekt, we have chanting in our own language.
Not to defend Paradox and their games, but stranger things have happened in reality.
>Not knowing Latin
I bet you can't even translate the De Bello Gallico on the fly, you peasant
Of course I can't. Do the math: I've mentioned that my country has orthodoxal christiaity and I've mentioned that it's in native language. 90% chance that I'm from Slavlands. And you're wondering if I know latin.
We have our native as liturgy language. Same as georgians have georgian as their liturgy language in their Orthodoxy.
I mean't that I don't know latin as >>132675580 was saying.
You both learn to read.
Also God. Pic related.
>there will never be an anime about a high level Orthodox wizard travelling the world and fighting succubi
>"It's been a gift to me, at the end of it all, to behold innocence."
One of the few quotes in videogames that stick with me.
The non-meme ones of course, fucking Star Fox and Deus Ex.
Orthodoxy = Wizard / Warlord
Pagan = Druid / Berseker
Catholic = Warrior / Paladin / Cleric / Chant
buddhist = Monk / Chant / singer ....
Jew = Money / dwarf merchant
atheist = range / sniper fedora
>There are people who fled Zion, letting all his work go to waste
A popular theory is that the first Genesis story is a polemic against the Babylonian chaoskampf story of creation found in the Enuma Elisha. Given that the Jews were in exile in Babylon, this would be a fuck you to the annual festivals that would occur to celebrate the Babylonian creation story.
Carino struck Peter's head with an axe and then attacked Domenico. Peter rose to his knees, and recited the first article of the Symbol of the Apostles (the Apostle's Creed). Offering his blood as a sacrifice to God, according to legend, he dipped his fingers in it and wrote on the ground: "Credo in Unum Deum", the first words of the Nicene Creed. The blow that killed him cut off the top of his head, but the testimony given at the inquest into his death confirms that he began reciting the Creed when he was attacked.
Catholic Missionaries and imperial emissaries of Catholic nations like Portugal were involved with some shenanigans back during the Sengoku era.
And you all know how obsessed Japan is with the Sengoku era, so top that off with the Vatican's enormous influence over the history of Europe, from the Crusades to the Borgias, even to the point where the U.S. was concerned about electing the Catholic JFK in the late 50s/early 60s, you can see why they've got the sinister/exotic badass portrayal down in Chinese comics.
The japs must be fascinated by the idea that the church had enormous political power over whole europe, because they never had anything like this in their own past. Or did they?
But the person you posted was a traitor who put the interest of his nation above the interest of his religion and allied with heretics and helped ensure the continued survival of Protestantism and the weakening of the Catholic Church.
Literally the Judas of Christianity.
>they never had anything like this in their own past. Or did they?
State shinto and its previous historical manifestations? Obviously, it's not quite equivalent to Christianity over the years but, you know, emperors descended from Amaterasu, ultimate authority depending on the era, it'd be pretty close.
Catholicism was hardly a strong and united force against the Ottomans and protestants before he came along.
He kept France staunchly Catholic and turned it into the seventeenth and eighteenth century superpower that it was.
why do you think?
I presume Japanese see incredible power in the Church as it managed to (atleast partly) unite Europe full of different nations, while they couldn't unite clans of one nation without constant wars
The Dutch convinced the Japanese that if they allow Christianity to flourish in Japan, Spain would use that as an excuse to attack and conquer them. So the Japs started cracking down on Christians, which eventually caused the Christians to rebel. The rebellion was suppressed, and Japs decided that dealing with foreigners was too much effort so they're just going to close the borders.
Japan could have been a Westernized, Christian state and started its colonial empire in the 16th century instead of the 19th century.
Once again, Protestants ruin everything.
I have neither a monarch nor an official state religion because it's the 21st fucking century and I don't live in a third world shithole.
The Japanese believed the Church would bring an invasion by Spain or Portugal, which is why they attempted to eradicate Christianity under Hideyoshi and Ieyasu. So believing the Church was powerful enough to encourage a full on invasion by a foreign power mush have been in part at least a reason why they see the Catholics as a highly powerful entity.
because its exotic, just like how the japanese find christianty exotic and interesting, we find their culture exotic and interesting. both attempt to make media/shows/whatever from eachother. its all good.
The Vatican is powerful because it's powerful.
Japan proper likes their power level rankings simple. None of this "MC is ranked lowest but he's actually the strongest and a super special snowflake" horseshit.
At one point, they had been besieging a village for so long that they lost patience and charged in, murdering all of the people in the village. Then they cooked them and ate their flesh.
Crusading chroniclers write about it with palpable disgust. It's fascinating.
A famous Ex-Islamic Philosopher had been born there, and he was recorded as saying 'There are two types of people in the world. Those with brains and no religion, and those with religion and no brains.'
Somehow I feel that the fate of his hometown may be linked to that.
>In 2013, a statue of Al-Maʿarri located in Syria was beheaded by jihadists from the Al Nusra Front.
Who's the brainless one now, huh?
It was Abul ʿAla Al-Maʿarri and he said it in the 10th Century. He was also a gloomy fuck who believed children shouldn't be born to spare them the horrors of the world.
But that fact that it was his home that was invaded by cannibal crusaders is a surprising twist of History. It's one of the reasons I have a degree.
>I have neither a monarch
You have a "democratically" elected government that is so indistinguishable from the other parties standing for election in how they obey every command of the lobbyists that a monarch would actually be preferable.
>nor an official state religion
You have Free Market.
Naram Sin, 5000 B.C.
We have fallen upon evil times, the world has waxed old and wicked. Politics are very corrupt. Children are no longer respectful to their elders. Each man wants to make himself conspicuous and write a book.
>mfw Americans dropped their atomic bombs on the cities with the biggest Kurishitan communities of Japan
Those poor fuckers survived through almost 400 years of persecutions only to be incinerated by other christians
So it predates the earliest known literature by more than two thousand years?
Nothing of value lost.
There was a small Jesuite mission that was within a kilometer of the bomb, all eight members were unharmed and their chapel was the only thing around still standing
Why would Japan being Christian mean no anime? If "Catholic" France can produce cartoons, so can Catholic Japan. It's not like traditional Jap values aren't at odds with the anime industry anyways.
If anything, we'd have more anime now. West has started producing cartoons in like 1900s, and closer ties to Japan would mean Japan would start doing them sooner too.
They would have a very diffeent aesthetic though. Anime is heavilly influenced by the art of the pre-Meiji period and eastern cultural influences. Christianity would most likely have absorbed and supplanted those, giving it a very different look. That's the trouble with might-has-beens, one small change can often wrought huge changes further down the line. It's why I love counterfactual History as it offers a window to examine and critique History as it is today.
Oh certainly anon. The Catholic France is producing stuff like pics related in their cartoons.
Also France is hardly Catholic. It's a secular country for a long time.
The reason why Anime is different from the western cartoons is because Japan is different from the western countries. If it was westernized in 16th century like anon suggested, it would be the same as the US.
mingols destroyed a civilization that was already on its way out, but they destroyed it before it could reform (albeit you could caunt the rise of ghulat groups as reform)
islam could be very different today
>The Catholic France is producing stuff like pics related in their cartoons.
Exactly, only not for homos like you
Read further you mongrel.
>Also France is hardly Catholic. It's a secular country for a long time
Being Catholic by name while not following the religion doesn't make you a Catholic. It makes you a scared piece of shit that doesn't believe but is too afraid to admit it. That's what modern western Europe and the US are. Non of those countries are Catholic.
They are still culturaly catholic.
Just as how UK and USA are culturaly protestant.
There's a massive difference in that.
Not to mention that all modern western morality derives from christian morality
France was pretty devoutly religious back in the 16th century, what with all those wars of religion and stuff. Yet today it's pretty secular. In a hypothetical situation where Japan converts to Christianity in 16th century, there is nothing that states that Japanese also have to be extremely religious in the 21st century as well.
Protestants celebrate Halloween. That's pretty Pagan. Christmas is Pagan as well. Christianity was incredibly effective at co-opting Pagan festivals and Christianizing them to better appeal to converts.
How am I backpedaling?
If you actually know how to read, you will notice I said "Catholic France". See the "Catholic"? A secular country can't be a InsertReligion country.
Saudi Arabia is a Islamic country since they will cut off your hand for stealing since it follows the Sheria or whatever law and the law is Islam.
The Vatican is a Catholic country.
The monks survived. The led coating from inside the church spared them due to the construction.
In this macabre setting, it delivered a powerful message regarding this strange and foreign religion. That their God shows no mercy to those that refuse to bow, much less aknowledge its will.
>Christmas is Pagan as well
Dating it to the 25th December stems from as early as the first century AD
>Protestants celebrate Halloween.
Someone please explain to a european why murricans celebrate Halloween.
It's pretty much just the night before All Saint's Day where little children go around collecting candy because of an imported american custom
Because it was pretty quote badass unquote in the middle ages too
>A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand: but it shall not come nigh thee.
>But thou shalt consider with thy eyes: and shalt see the reward of the wicked.
>Because thou, O Lord, art my hope: thou hast made the most High thy refuge.
>There shall no evil come to thee: nor shall the scourge come near thy dwelling.
>For he hath given his angels charge over thee; to keep thee in all thy ways. In their hands they shall bear thee up: lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
>Thou shalt walk upon the asp and the basilisk: and thou shalt trample under foot the lion and the dragon.
>tfw you will never be a faithful priest who devotes his life to helping those in need and being a father figure to orphaned children
>tfw you wont die of old age in a soft bed surrounded by the loving and successful orphans you raised, secure in the knowledge that you are going to paradise to be with your God and all those who went before
Sometimes I truly envy the faithful
That is not a orthodox elemental wizards.
>there will never be a slice of life anime of cute kawaii moe crusader loli's engaging in bloody violent brutal holy war against cute kawaii moe saracens in the middle east to reclaim the holy lands
It will be historically accurate too
REMOVE SARACEN HERETIC INFIDELS
Also Trinity Blood featured the Vatican heavily. I don't remember any battle nuns off the top of my head but it probably had some
Koreans have no souls and the Chinese on top of that are impoverished. It kind of makes sense why Christianity is supposedly growing so rapidly over there.
I think Christianity gets popular among desperate people. There are just not enough desperate people in Japan. And they already have Buddhism for centuries. What's the benefit of Christianity?
>"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
~2000 years later still the only bastion of truth in the world.
The best part is that literally nobody can even step on an intellectual level, they just see it as some hugbox of tradition when in reality its doctrine lays claim to the most nuanced conception of this contingent and transcendental plane of physical existence and secular philosophers have been trying to prove it wrong for all this time and never succeeded.
>I think Christianity gets popular among desperate people
So why do all the elites in China convert?
>There are just not enough desperate people in Japan.
2nd or 3rd highest suicide rate in the world
>And they already have Buddhism for centuries
China does too
“The Japanese don’t care whether God exists or not.”
Didn't know /int/ and /pol/ frequented /a/ like this.
>elites in China convert
We have a saying from the Taoist schools: "When in presence of civilized men, act dignified as if yourself was civilized. When among common folk, act humbly as if you were a common folk. When amongst barbarians, adopt their ways as if you were a barbarian"
Its like teaching kids English; its just so they could have a chance at international commerce or admission into US schools.
The catechism is designed as more of a rulebook.
The actual intricacies of catholic doctrine are best kept by the summa theologica, that's really what everybody should be reading.
And no I haven't read the catechism.
I hope you're not trying to fool anyone into thinking you've read the Summa when you haven't even read the Catechism.
I can assure both of you that there are too many idiots with a fundamental misunderstanding of history and working internet for that to ever work on 4chan, where the loudest and most numerous voices "win" (see /pol/). it would undoubtably end up as >>132674021 suggests, as nationalist revisionist histories would be force fed to the board by the unwashed mongoloids that think themselves to be scholars of history.
Sorry, this is just the deranged raving of a history major who gets autistic in the face of the stupid ship people say
Before /pol/ started pretending they're Catholic, if you ever expressed any kind of religious sentiment you'd get literally dozens of people angrily responding to you and trying to convert you to atheism.
After /pol/ started pretending they're Catholic, the fedora meme shamed most of these pseudo-missionaries into silence, but now everyone thinks you're a /pol/luter as well if you're religious.
You just can't win.
>where the loudest and most numerous voices "win"
>unwashed mongoloids that think themselves to be scholars
4chan in a nutshell.
Fellow History Major, and I well understand where you;re coming from. Then again, History is always under revision and nothing is more argued over then it so it would be interesting to see, if nothing else. Maybe hailing from /tg/ and their Historic Wargames threads I have more faith in the concept as a whole.
Am I correct in assuming the Japanese have a fascination with the Catholic Church because the Japanese have, only until very recently, never encountered a major monotheistic, hierarchical religion before?
Finally another that understands my pain. I totally get what you mean by "history is always under revision", I just despise when people butcher it with misunderstandings, oversimplifications, and a lack of critical analysis, especially if it is to further a political end. Unfortunately that's the only way I could see a history board going. /tg/ truly is the best board though.
I believe in next season having good anime.
you're thinking more of the reconquista, the Léonese and Castilian efforts to push the Islamic rulers of al-Andallus (Andalusia) thus establishing the modern Spanish nation.
Crusades were basically the pope arranging a field trip for European powers to go kill Muslims instead of each other because he was so tired with their shit the Pope couldn't even.
Try again with a less cancerous retard.
So it's shit at your university too. I luckily managed to avoid t by taking modernity in Europe 1872-1917, gotta say it's right behind getting fit as one of the best move I've made in college.
You would be wrong. There was Muslim contact in Japan long before Christian through Muslim traders throughout China. Muslims were just far less evangelical in that region of the world due to Confucianism making it hard for them to penetrate much into Chinese society (at least until Kublai Khan). Christianity caught on in Japan and was perceived as a threat because the Catholic rulers of the time had the wealth to spread the gospel and make it look wondrous through European achievement.
>Ask a random westerner what he knows about shintoism.
Something something spirits all around, something something emperor is a god incarnate.
Reminder that Biblical Literalism is the full baka cancer killing the modern Church.
>And Latin chanting > Greek chanting
Shit man, I'm not Orthodox or from Debtland. But this chant here has me hypnotized, I've been trying to find a source for a while now.
As a Native American I find Shintoism very interesting because it bears a lot of parallels to traditional Native spiritualism. Had North America developed differently prior to the Columbian exchange and been more highly competitive you might have seen Toteism gradually take on a form very much resembling Japanese shinto shrines.
>through beliefs that if you step out of line, you go to hell
How can tippers be raised in what is still essentially a Christian culture, and not even know a basic teaching of the faith, like the doctrine of Christ's atonement for all sin?
>no anime about Trappist monks doing trap monk things making trappist beer and cheeses
He's probably the single most hated man on /lit/. And I imagine /pol/ must hate him even more, if they even know of him.
>He makes history interesting for teens.
You just answered your own question.
>And I imagine /pol/ must hate him even more, if they even know of him.
He's inconsequential. Never really mentioned.
Why is that bad? With how retarded the average teen is, I'm ecstatic to imagine even some of them getting into history rather than some modern stupid social networking trend.
But then I guess I enjoyed watching Horrible Histories and Hysteria so maybe I just have a low bar for immaturity and goofiness n historical stuff.
>So the Japs started cracking down on Christians, which eventually caused the Christians to rebel. The rebellion was suppressed, and Japs decided that dealing with foreigners was too much effort so they're just going to close the borders.
Eagerly awaiting Scorsese's next movie.
>In the seventeenth century, two Jesuit priests face violence and persecution when they travel to Japan to locate their mentor and to spread the gospel of Christianity.
>one of the most influential figures of the classical age
>actions directly influenced everything in the Near East region for centuries to come
>"He's basically an ancient Kardashian"
Wasn't there an alt-history novel set in a world where western Europe never becomes a world power and the America ends up being colonized by Arabs and the Chinese?
Seems like a really interesting "what-if" scenario.
>4chan is majority christian site.
The more you look at history the more you kind of start to see how it HAD to be Europeans who colonized or at very least explored North America. Both geography as well as cultural traditions played a huge role in why they were the first. Mali or Morocco were fairly influential during the time of early colonization and could have sponsored expeditions and such had they chosen to, but they had little financial or historical interest in finding far off lands for trade routes or resources. Muslims just never became interested in colonizing as much as Catholics because they were much more tied to an ancestral homeland than the much more wander lusting Europeans. Even their excursions into Europe tended to be considerably more conservative than the Catholic incursions into the Muslims worlds in terms of claims and casus beli.
4chan is secular at best, and probably atheist at worst.
I for one worship the Moetron.
Well, at one point it could have been the Chinese. The expeditions of admiral Zheng He showed that they had the ability to make transoceanic voyages and could have reached the Americas via the Pacific had political and cultural concerns not filtered in.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Part of the reason I want to read the book is to find out how the author explains such an implausible situation.
I'm no expert, but all of Europe just dropping off that map seems way to extreme to ever happen.
>4chan is secular at best, and probably atheist at worst.
Nah, all the atheists got chased off to reddit. 4chan has been overwhelmingly christian for years now. You might not have noticed because /a/ doesn't typically talk about religion
I think 4chan is many Religions. It doesn't ever really come up and it's usually not important. Here, people of any faith or lack of it can talk and bond over their shared interests without the issue of faith clouding the discussion.
How retarded are you? The crusades were a way for popes to get rid of all the stupid knights who were basically acting like gangsters going around killing each other, killing peasants, ransacking and burning villages. Urban II decided to send them to the Levant so that they would stop fucking everything up back home. Charles stopped the islamic invasion at the battle of tours hundreds of years earlier.
It depends on the country and what you define as "religious".
More atheism in central and northern yurop for example.
And registered with the church and going there once a year because grandma insists hardly makes you a believer, it's more inertia than anything.
Raj, please, don't you have some callcenter station to operate?
Christ-chan is the best thing to come from /pol/.
Winter-chan is what's hot on /pol/ these days. Don't ask.
Is that...the step ladder girl from RLM?