DAL

Why can't I have both?

>>124967715
Mana is best imouto.

>>124967749
because fake sister are just childhood friends.

>>124967922
Not really

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>>124967715
Kotori. She's top tier, above Mana.

>>124967922
No. A non-blood related imouto who grew up with you for most of your childhood will still have strong family ties and siblings feelings than blood related imouto who is more of a friend you recently met and connected with.

>>124967715
Shidou only has 1 sister and her name is Mana, Remember the law of BMW

>>124968841
Kotori is mid tier at best. Mana is way better imouto than her.

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>>124967715
Adoptive != fake. That said, Kotori is best girl and best imouto.

>>124968841
>She's top tier,
Black Kotori is low to mid tier and White Kotori is mid to high tier. Mana is high Tier

>>124967922
>>124968841
Depends, in Kotori's case but she has been living with Shidou for ages but she's still non-blood related so yeah she's like a childhood friend but in Yoshino's case, she is the one fulfilling the imouto role now white Kotori is gone.

>>124968919
>Quoting TWGOK
It's like you missed the whole point Elsie as an imouto-like character illustrates. Blood isn't everything.

>>124968922
>>124968953
Kotori is best tier. Come fight me.

>>124968952
>best girl
>not even best fake imouto
Nope

>>124967715

You can't even marry your real sister, OP.

>>124968980
>Yoshino's case, she is the one fulfilling the imouto role
Not this shit again from this Yoshinofag.

>>124969012
>It's like you missed the whole point Elsie as an imouto-like character illustrates
>she actually becomes his imouto
Yeah, blood is everything.

>>124969012
>Not quoting the word of God

Kotori isn't in the best tier, that belongs to Yoshino and Tohka.

>>124969049
but it's the truth, if that wasn't the case then every chilhood friend ever would be an imouto/onee-chan.

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>>124969041
but Shidou can.

>>124969051
She proved it before that happened. Even Keima, though reluctant to admit it, ends up not being able to deny it.

>>124969055
>word of God
The hell are you talking about?

>>124969079
>if that wasn't the case then every chilhood friend ever would be an imouto/onee-chan.
Come back when you stopped being retarded and started making sense.

>>124969120
>The hell are you talking about?
>Forgetting Keima's title

>>124969120
We are talking about how Elsie's character and after that happened, the whole"blood doesn't matter!" thing became pointless

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>>124967715
Kotori is hotter and cuter. She is the younger one, so she is superior.

>>124969190
>She is the younger one
We don't know Mana's age.

>>124969163
You are the fucking retard here. Kotori is the same as a childhood friend who has been living with the MC together for a long time and is considered a family memeber by him but that doesn't make her or the childhood friend a real imouto.

Mana, because she isn't useless nor a nuisance for Shidou when it comes to dates.

>>124969165
Kay, and what does Keima have to do with DAL?

>>124969176
Except you quoted and used BMW. That was an early plot and Elsie pretty much overturned that when it was relevant. Fact is, blood isn't everything. Moe and memories (she worked to created them) is enough.

>>124969222
Mana treats Kotori as a younger sister. Mana is also a bit older physically. Kotori is younger for sure.

>>124969269
That wasn't me and again, after all Elsie did the whole non blood related shit was pointless because she tried her hardest to become a real one.

>>124969324
Because she is better "developed" than Kotori, we still don't know Mana's age like that guy said.

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>>124967715
Ignoring the whole BMW issue, I'd still choose Mana because she is simply the better girl.

>>124969224
That's your retarded logic reasoning. Real or not doesn't matter, it's feelings and how the MC perceives his imouto. Kotori is one regardless if she's blood related. You can't overwrite what the MC feels or thinks about Kotori for your own convenience. In that way, Yoshino isn't seen as an imouto, so she cannot be one no matter how much you try to push her into imouto role.

There's a difference between childhood friends and NBR imoutos. It's so fucking obvious, you have to be retarded or blind to not see it.

>>124969419
What's with the samefag?

>>124969428
but that's not how it work, you idiot. The MC can pereive the girl as "family" but that doesn't make said girl a real "family member" and Shidou does think about Yoshino as an imouto in short stories since Kotori is always in black mode.

>>124969498
The entire thread is full of samefagging anon, look at the poster count.

>>124969608
>people arguing
>samefagging
Not shit, Sherlock.

>>124968952
This. Kotori is the best of both worlds in her white and mode. She hits so many of my fetishes (twintails, ZR, dfc, commander, tsundere, sadist, imouto moe, HOT) when combined.

>>124969702
>She hits so many of my fetishes
I think clock threads are for you.

>>124969608
We're arguing in here, but that post didn't add a new ip count when he replied to OP there.

>>124969733
Try too hsrd much?

>>124969733
>Complaining about fetishes when he is in a DAL thread
You can't be serious.

>>124969655
>>124969736
Obviously it's >>124968919 but said anon didn't exactly choose Mana rather than disqualifying Kotori from the options.

>>124969769
>hsrd
I don't know, you tell me.

>>124969801
>Nazi over a typo
This isn't helping you.

You know that NBRs were only disliked because they were copouts, right? Absolutely nothing wrong with them in themselves.

>>124969792
>fetish discussion
>in a DAL theads
Maybe the usual "X is best girl" argument but shit like flat chest or cowtits is never discussed in the main threads.

>>124969869
Then why did you reply to that?

>>124969886
They weren't talking about her being NBR in that manner, play attention.

>>124969957
Then what's the issue?

>>124969901
Are you new or something? DAL threads are always waifufags warring and that literally built upon preferences, which is fetishes. And talking about things like dfc and tits and all the way to personality traits to happens often, it isn't freaking normal.

>>124970000
People arguing whether NBR are real sisters or not.

>>124970000
They were talking about the lack of blood relation disqualifying her status as a sister in the first place.

>>124970029
traits happens often, it is freaking normal.*

God damn, I need sleep.

>>124970063
>disqualifying
>going against canon and the character's relationship and feelings
Fanfic tier argument.

>>124970029
Are you? I've been here since season 1 aired and circlejerking is often ignored in these thread so don't go pretending you have been in these threads since the beggining, remember the reason why clockfags post in their own clock threads and not the main ones? Best girl argument is normal but blatant fetish talking is not common. You don't see people talking about how much they want to fuck Tohka whole praising her body, only circlejerkers like Mikufags, some Kotorifags, Yoshinofags and Natsumifags do that and they contribute nothing to the threads.

>>124970040
>real
Sneaking choice of words. "Real" as in what? Biological? Genuine?
>>124970063
If it's a status, it doesn't require blood relation.

>>124970063
>her status as a sister in the first place
That's sort of tricky, Kotori hasn't been fulfilling her status since volume 4 and now it seems like she is betraying Shidou next volume.

>>124970196
Total bull. There's no way you have been here since S1 to see the circlejerk that first began in S1 at the start. Tohka threads talking about her body, tits, and personality was a thing fr a while. Even when Yoshino episode came, she got overshadowed because of Tohka and other girls jerking more vocally for their girl.

Kurumi was the most popular girl by S1 and she dominated a lot of threads, then came Tohka or Kotori depending on the hour and day. It's all the same topics aside from occasional plot and setting discussions with some speculah. At the beginning, Clockfags made their own threads because they could keep it active by themselves. It didn't become negative until around S2 aired because of edgy trolling.

>Mikufags
Don't make me laugh.

>>124970487
>since volume 4
What? Kotori do get time off and she reverts back to White Kotori. Most of it is off-screen, but it has been established already.

>betraying
Recall the talks we had about this. Even if she goes through with it, it's pretty much impossible for Kotori, who loves Shidou to the max (her sincere feelings), to go through with it at the end. Her deep love is the kind that would want to prevent Shidou from becoming a monster who ends up harming or killing those he loves, so she would take on the pain of being the one to end him, but her love will prevent her from pulling the trigger in the end.

>>124970556
Exactly, these threads have changed a lot since season 1 aired but I'm taling about how the current threads are way different to how they used to be back then, after season 1 ended every DAL related thread was a Kurumi thread with a few people discussing the series every now and then.

Everything changed when Rinne Utopia was released and the summaries were posted, the circlejerking was decreasing and the threads went from Kurumi ciclejerking, then RU discussion, followed by imouto war threads, the infamous purple threads, the bullying threads and the cancerous reposts threads all this while pople tried to control the shitpost and cancer, eventually the shitposters left and now circlejerking is barely accepted because encourages shitposters like the houki guy, clockfags, fake Origamifags/Mikufags and many more.

>Clockfags made their own threads because they could keep it active by themselves
Wrong, they make their own threads because nobody in the main theads talks about their "sex goddess" and any post regarding Kurumi circlejerking is ignored, especially it is has the word clock in it.

The point is this "fetish talk" is no longer allowed in the current threads, this is also the reason you don't see that many Kotorifags in the threads anymore.

>>124970717
>Kotori do get time off and she reverts back to White Kotori. Most of it is off-screen, but it has been established already
Not really, even in shot stories she is always in black mode and the only time where she is in white mode was in Kotori Birthday where she was forced to wear the white ribbons(by herself)

>>124971049
>no longer allowed
Not him, but that is bullshit. There isn't a taboo on it nor has it been a bad thing to talk about. Waifu war is a valid concern, but that isn't something you can stop by complaining about it. DAL is a series where it is natural to have them. How we go about it will determine if it is bad or good, and so far it has been okay, not too malicious and harsh.

>caring about irrelevant girls

>>124971441
I'm not saying you can't talk about it. It's the fact you won't get replies or people is going to ignore you if they think your post cintributes nothing to the thread or it encourages shitposting like when Mikufags claim she is best girl because she is hot or those bad Kotorifags who call anyone who doesn't think she is best girl a "normalfag"

I helps to notice the difference between a real fan and a circlejerker/shitposter.

>>124967715
Her implementation was so bad. It's like they didn't think about it at all and just wanted to slap another little sister in.
Also red hair+twintails is an unbeatable combo for imoutos

>>124971630
>hair+twintails is an unbeatable combo for imoutos
Twintails+Tsundere personality is also an unbeatable combo for shit characters.

>>124971592
>normalfag
You realize that's used for anyone who doesn't like dfc and loli on /a/ in general, right? I would say the same too.

>>124971680
Yes but what does that have to do with Kotori? She's not tsundere.

>>124971680
>Not loving tsuntails
Your shit taste is unbeatable.

>>124971630
Mana is one of the characters that Tachibana planned out from the beginning. Kind of like Origami.

>>124971680
THK pls.

>>124971688
Read my post again, it doesn't matter if they like other flat-chested character like Yoshino, they call normalfag to anyone who doesn't have Kotori as the top girl.

>>124971746
Really? Sure as hell doesn't feel that way.
What do you guys think of the way she was implemented?

>>124971746
Says who?

She's been dropped from the series

>>124971783
Please don't bring this shitpost to this thread.

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>>124971711
She is though. Kotori is god tier red twintails tsundere.

>>124971721
Twintails are generic shit.

>>124971786
Yoshino isn't flat chested, she's small chested. And I don't think I have ever seen them call a Yoshinofag a normalfag. You must be think of something else entirely.

>>124971868
>generic
>bad
So why are you here again?

>>124971868
>generic
Just like your mom and favorite girl.

>>124971876
Yoshino chest is flat as fuck, her bust is barely bigger than Kotori's and yeah I've seen people being labelled as normalfag just because they have Tohka as their favorite girl and Kotori as second.

Liking generic shit = having pleb taste
You don't have the right to claim someone has shit taste when you like generic shit.

So, I just left for half an hour and thread is already shit. Now I remember why we don't circlejerk that much in the main threads.

>>124971791
Considering she appears in volume 2 and as one of the main villains best fighters, I would say she had more planned out than say the twins or Miku.

>>124971996
I'm totally calling bullshit on that. But if you can give me examples from the archive, I'll yield.

>>124967715
what is 00 riser doing here?

>>124971049
>>124971592
>>124971786
>>124971996
You're so exaggerating. Kurumi may have dominated often, but not all the time. Tohka and Kotori took up space too, nigga.

And no, things didn't changed because of RU. RU only added to the discussion, but we still had our checklist, jokes, fans jerking their girls in the main threads. Even Origamifags were active and contributed to keeping the activity floating.

Around the start of S2, the fanbase had already decreased quite a lot in comparison to the peak during S1 and the months after that were kept up by LN talks and again fans jerking their girls. The one thing that can be said to be discourage was single thread circlejerks cause fans didn't want a monopoly, that's why it's more encouraged to spread the fan jerking in the main thread.

Yeah no, there's difference between Kurumifags of the main thread and "Clockfags". Only the latter gets flamed and there isn't even a handful of them.

Stop lying. Fetish comments or fapping has never been ostracized or deemed bad, you're making shit up, obviously using your personal grudge for whatever reason. DALfags still jerk their girl as they have in the past. Things haven't changed except in overall decrease fanbase, which is normal because of no anime and the hype from the latest volume have faded already.

Mikufags hardly exists and Miku herself gets hate for reasons not related to what you're complaining about. And accusing Kotorifags of calling another lolifag or someone who likes Kotori second best as a normalfag? I'm also going you out on that shit.

>>124971791
The fact she is related to DEM, Shidou, probably Phantom and now Ratatoksr somewhat implies she may or not be important in a future arc.

Just search for any DAL girl+normalfag. Try clicking on older threads because most Kotorifags left main threads for some reason and It's not that surprising, even Tohka had some really obnoxius fans back then.

>>124972301
https://archive.moe/a/search/text/%22tohka%22%20normalfag/

Right. Let's face it, you don't know what you're saying.

>>124972222
Not really, like 3/4 of those threads were about Kurumi.

Clockfags still make threads but they die in a few posts and some are deleted because people report them.

>>124972222
>Yeah no, there's difference between Kurumifags of the main thread and "Clockfags". Only the latter gets flamed and there isn't even a handful of them.
Please tell me this is bait. Real Kurumifags like myself like Kurumi for her actual character and actions whereas clockfags are just circlejerkers who don't even read the novels.

>>124972406
>like 3/4 of those threads were about Kurumi.
Not even, man. Half at most maybe, but not that much.

>>124972476
How is that bait? Did you even read that correctly?

>>124972639
Yeah, I think it was like 4/5 and most of the posts, the rest was shitposting and few of discussion. It only decreased when the game was announced then Tohka became the dominant girl for a long time.

Pretending people cared about the actual series is a lie because DAL was considered another shit harem with cute girls back then. Only a few liked the series and even less actually read the LN.

Miku is worst girl

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>>124972960

>>124972107
The cookies threads were better

>>124972975
>4/5
>Saying it was even more than 3/4
Feels like I'm being trolled. You don't know what you're talking about.

>>124973366
Nice argument you got there.

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The only thing I care to say in here is that Kotori is mai waifu.

>>124973682
You are my friend whether you like it or not.

>>124967715
The only cure for Mana's longevity problem is copious amounts of Shidou dick.

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while Kotori watches.

>>124973763
Mana is going to be Shidou's older sister I bet.

>>124973832
Shidou is Da'at, that makes all the spirits younger than him.

I remember when I used to write DAL porn stories for /a/. I wonder if anyone still has the Kurumi and Yoshino ones. Good times.

>>124973940
I do.

>>124973940
I still have the Yoshino ones.

>ORIGAMI TOBIICHI

How can one be so much best girl

>>124974035
>>>/po/

Miku is worst girl

>>124973969
>>124974001
>Have Kurumi part 2 80% finished
>Going to post it on Halloween 2013 like I promised
>Hard drive shits the bed
>Lose all my archived anime
>Lose gigs of 4chan images saved over 7 years
>Lose all my porn
>Lose all my stories

I was pissed for 2 weeks and then just never started up the stories again. After a year and a half there's still stuff I'll never find again.

Part 2 was Kurumi going hard into bondage and forcing Kotori and Origami to fuck Shidou while he was helplessly tied to a bed.

>>124974177
Well, it doesn't matter anymore. People don't talk about that much about Kurumi in the current threads since her underage fans make their own threads but they are shit and die in a few posts.

>>124974294
>projecting
Fag

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>>124974294
I still like Kurumi

>>124974294
What? You don't know? Those "fans" are called clockfags and they are just circlejerkers which is the main reason they left the main threads where only people who actually follow the series post.

>>124969055
Best Tier is actually Yoshino and Kotori

Lolibutts when?

>>124974423
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with that but don't expect to see people circlejerking over Kurumi in the main threads.

>>124974465
Meant for >>124974317

>>124974495
More like Reine and Yoshino

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>>124974700
Reine becomes your hands on sex ed teacher. Do you pass the class?

>>124973940
Reine is the new hotness.

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>>124974963
>Reine becomes your hands on sex ed teacher
>hands on sex ed teacher

sweet baby jesus have mercy on this wretched soul

>>124974294
>generalizing
Stop that, fag.There are plenty of fans who aren't like that. Kurumi shined in the latest volumes and got the attention she hadn't had in a while.

Don't nitpick too since the general fanbase decreased considerably from faded hype.

.

>>124975102
Are you even following this conversation or you new in these threads? Kurumi does have real fans but I'm talking about clockfags here, you know the ones who don't give a shit about her character or the novels.

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Is Origami still a shit?

>>124975219
Old Origami is still shit, new Origami is okay.

>>124975670
Is there a chance for a Mana arc? She's related to Shidou after all and volume 12 seems important.

>>124974963
I will fail on purpose just to take the class again

>>124975741
Definitely. She has a lot of scores to settle.

>>124975741
Yeah, best imouto must be saved.

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>>124975830
You shouldn't waste her time by deliberately failing. You should impress her by passing with flying colors and tell her frequent refresher courses are the way to stay in top shape and up to date on techniques.

Still waiting for that Reine route

>>124975219
Gross

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>>124976175

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>>124976101
This. Two fucking VNs and not even a joke route.
And I doubt they will deliver in the third.
They have such a shit taste.

>>124976278
It's still disgusting to see, even after all these years.

why does origami like shido so much?

>>124976373
She doesn't

>>124976373
Big dick

>>124976348
>~2 years
>after all these years

>>124976373
Read the novels

>>124976397
why did she give him her picture and agree to go out with him then?

>>124976317
Best girl never wins and when they do they just disappear(Rinne). It doesn't help Reine is considered the sexiest by Shidou.

>>124976508
You should know this already even it is never stated in the novels. Origami is a stalker but that doesn't mean she feels for Shidou. Think, what makes a person a stalker?

>>124976317
Only spirits allowed.

>>124976278
neorigami butt is better

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>>124976709
Indeed

>tfw no Reine doujins
Nips can't handle a competent woman. Waiting for summary and those summaries

>>124976508
Obsession

Origami won in volume 11

S2 a shit

>>124977478
Rip in peavce

>>124977932
>Rip in peavce
>peavce
Faggot

>>124975832
>>124975859
Volume 12 sounds good. I'm expecting Shidou bullying Tohko, Kotori suffering and more Mana.