There is nothing to doubt about the inevitability of Yukino end if you have read the LNs. The question is just how they will get it done. You know Yukino and Hachiman are not emo teens from a typical high school romance, and they will never hug or kiss each other passionately. How do you think they will confess their love towards each other and confirm it together?
I want to kill this fucking cunt.
I don't think I understood genuine. It seemed really melodramatic to me.
>[Yukino] “…I don’t understand.”
>. . .
>Even I didn’t understand it too well.
>. . .
>[Yui] “To be honest, I don’t really get it, either…”
Does absolutely no one get it?
Apart from that, I'm also concerned about this line
>To this day, I have yet to see it for myself, let alone touch it.
Does he mean that particular day or does he mean some undetermined day in the future when he's recounting this?
And he fucked up.
Is that why during the date he tried to execute the social kamikaze? Making himself look good in front of Yukino? I can see why the fucking cunt hates Hachiman, Hachiman is everything Hayama could never be and it must piss him off knowing someone like Hachiman is going to swoon Yukino over and she'll win the 8bowl.
Friendly reminder for all anons participating in Yahari / Oregairu threads.
>Iroha is the source of all evil
>If you're not a Yukinofag, you're an Irohafag
>Sensei is certainly a pure, disease-free maiden
>Yui, Yukino and Iroha have no feelings for 8man
>Yui is still romanticaly relevant
>Hayama is pure alpha material
>Haruno is the inferior Yukinoshita
>Yukino is a character with depth
>Saki is obviously going to win the 8bowl
>We have no idea why she is mad at him, so don't ask
>We have no idea what is genuine, don't ask this either
The only one I consider good is the one some random anon wrote about Yukino's birthday. He really managed to make it read like on of Wataru's works. It's a shame it ended with a Batman meme at the end though.
What part do you not get?
>get 8man to do her work in the stuco council phone
>keep his phone so he can concentrate working on the manuscript
>enter her contact into the phone with her lewd photo and special senpai~ ringtone
>get his number and email
>check out all how many girl/rivals are in his contact list
>see what pictures he has
>see his call log and msg history
>Sensei is certainly a pure, disease-free maiden
Dubs confirm. Imouto is supreme best girl though.
I know this is little weird answer to myself but it just came to my mind that a Hyouka-like ending is perfect for both Yukino and Hachiman
None of them have to say pretentious shit like 'I love you' and yet still manage to know their genuine feeling. Chitanda's subtle confession fits with Yukino's character and Oreki's rather indecisive response is acceptable given Hachiman's attitude, though in the series he is expected to give much better response due to his character development
>How do you think they will confess their love towards each other and confirm it together?
Watari is still, when the sun sets and transition into night, a writer who write light novels. So, I surmise, the confession will occur after school in the Service Club; Yukino will proceed to walk toward the door and Hachiman will not the let opportunity slip through the cracks again, he'll ask Yukino to become his (girl)friend and she'll turn her head with a smile and say "Yes."
Man I wish they could animate all those dokidoki Hayama x Yukino moments when he was helping out her out with the campaign speech.
>“Speaking of which, please call me to the shrine visit, too!”
>“And why do I need to do that?”
>Speaking of which, I have no way of contacting you, though? Or are you saying to do it telepathically? Is there some kind of no service charge benefit? Or is it that? Are you using this as a chance to enact your strategy of standing over me mentally by getting my contact info? Too bad for you! I won’t fall for something like that! I’ll have you know Hachiman knows all about how thinking about things too deeply meant digging your own grave!
She got his phone for days. I am sure with her personality she is just keeping it in her pocket and not do lewd stuff with it.
>Haruno is the inferior Yukinoshita
Pleb taste confirmed. We should make having such shit taste a bannable offense.
Komachi then looked at me with half-closed eyes. “Onii-chan, what the heck are you saying? You dummy onii-trash! You nincompoop! Hachiman! It’s fine, so both of you go home first!”
“R-Right… No, wait a second. Hachiman’s not even an insult.”
I replied back, but my words didn’t reach Komachi since she had already dashed off to the distance. C’mon, you’re putting me on the spot by being so spontaneous like that. What to do… Since I didn’t know what to do because of Komachi, I will call this phenomenon, “What to Komachi…” Ooooh my, what to Komachi?
I turned to Yukinoshita wondering what we should do and her shoulders were trembling and her face turned away.
“What…?” I asked.
Yukinoshita let out a small sigh and readjusted her breathing. Then, as if whispering inside of her mouth, she said with a small voice, “Dummy, nincompoop, Hachiman…”
It looks like her lexicon of insults was updated with new entries… I sent her a dubious and fixated stare, and Yukinoshita played it off by clearing her throat.
Don't reply to the NTR dude, its the same guy that shitposter with 8man being a gary stu
he's part of an IRC crew that's trying to give yahari bad rep on /a/ so it ends up being like KLK and SnK
Haruno found out talking to 8man on phone. Nothingto do withiroha. She found out about hayama x yukino rumour from iroha. Its why she forced him to go out with orimoto - to dispel the rumour.
This thread really lacks the best girl.
Yesterday I read the End of the Affair one, pretty fucking depressing, but also good.
>Check out author's other works
>Fucking Oreimo murder mystery
>Author dropped fanfiction two years ago and left it unfinished.
God dammit, there's new works now but I doubt he'll go back to that.
I have been wondering, why 8man know Saki like black underwear?
I can potentially envisioned an ambiguous end. Even so, I can also envisioned another Oreimo and Fruits Basket incident with devoted fans tearing/burning the final Oregairu volume, if that is the route Watari goes.
I expect a revolving door effect to shift into gear and make it impact
>Yui and the infirmary scene; her pretending she didn't over hear Hachiman and Yukino conversation
>The promise date Hachiman vowed with Yui
I don't think Watari will let it go unnotice, he'll probably have a chapter where Yui confront Hachiman, alone, secluded from the general populous and say
"All this time I thought you were looking at me and you wasn't, Hiki, uh, um, Hachiman you was always looking far off into the distance, and that distance was Yukino, s-s-so, don't let her down and that promise date, give that to her."
Reminder that Yukino has as much depth as your average belly button.
I also think a friendship end with heavy implication of an eventual Yukino end in the future is possible. I can even see the last scene being three of them in the club room, relaxed, having tea and smiles, finally getting their piece in a small corner of the world
Funny how so many people see Yui accepting her defeat and helping&encouraging Hachiman and Yukino
Saki reminds me of Matabei
Just remeber that abny girl that wants the 8man should get komachis blessing first
So did club exist from start of year or did sensei throw both in the same day ir what? Just hiw did yukino end up in the club? Had she been there by herself for weeks while 8man in hospital?
>I prepared myself and psyched myself up in order to wear the glasses. Per… sona…! By the way, I actually like 3 more than 4, so if I was going to be summoning something, by all means, please give me a pistol to shoot my head with!
I'm for Yukino but having read the books I know just how awesome Yui is. She's a wonderful person. It will be damn painful to see her suffering but I know Yui is a strong and genuine enough to overcome everything and grow even more mature. She deserves better than Hachiman
>Then, for some reason, Hiratsuka-sensei, instead of Tobe, reacted. “Uu, half-off… I know, right… When you pass 24, you’re half off… And when you’re past 25, you’re ready to get thrown out…”
>“This is about cakes, right? We’re talking about Christmas cakes, right?” I tried confirming, but my voice didn’t reach Hiratsuka-sensei.
>“Why won’t they sell even though they’re on bargain…? Haa.” Hiratsuka-sensei said as she reached out to the half-off seals.
>“C-Crap, Hiratsuka-sensei’s putting the stickers on herself. Hurry! Someone hurry up and take her!”
Would you take a discounted Christmas Cake?
Yukino and Hachiman are the couple made in heaven
The reason of Oreimo shitstorm was because of the incest end and Kuroneko, who's more popular than Kirino, lost. Which means such shitstorm won't happen in Yahari
. After adjusting her vividly, red stole that gave off an uneven impression, Yukinoshita Haruno called my name.
After calling out to me, Yuigahama shifted her gaze to the side and uttered her name in surprise. “Haruno-san… er,”
Yuigahama adjusted her gaze to the front of Haruno-san. And a male wearing a black jacket over a jersey in grey, crossed between black and white, was there. While his eyes, underneath his brown, close to a light gold, hair, looked slightly surprised, Hayama Hayato was still smiling.
“Oh, it’s Hayato-kun, too.”
Holy shit, Hayato skipped New years shrine visit to bone Haruno holy shit.
Yui is the best end for 8man he can experience that lovey dovey relationship with a genuinely nice girl. He can then tell Yukino all the stupid stuff Yui does and they can make fun of her together like the best buds they are.
>a genuinely nice girl
The analogy is that;
Yuifags: Realistically believe that their girl has a ridiculously low chance of winning but still love her regardless.
Yukinofags: Know that Yukino will probably win but most of the time won't rub it in to others.
Senseifags: Concede that Sensei will need a miracle to even be a contender.
Irohafags: "IROHA BEST GIRL!" "IROHA WILL WIN!" "WE ARE NOT OBNOXIOUS!"
>Should the seasons change, so did human bonds as they go through cycles of rebirth. Perhaps, someone new would visit that clubroom. And then, within a year, I would say farewell to that clubroom.
>That’s why, for this moment, if only for a little, along with the warmth beside me.
>Let’s look up at the starry sky and walk on.
We are nearing the end ;___;
Thing is, Yui is supportive and nurturing. Sure, she may have felt jealously and rivalry between her and Yukino, however, she realized, Yukino friendship is valuable then Yukino being a rival. Afterall, she dislike confrontations. And Yui is not the person to use undermine tactics to swoon Hachiman over.
I think Yui maturation as a character will be her accepting and not a melodramatic heartfelt tearjerker fest of her pouring her feelings out to Hachiman.
Not really, Commie is good in terms of conveying the spirit of dialoges, while CR-subs seemingly made by people who not only haven't red the LN, but just don't care about the whole content of the show.
I won't even comment awkawardness of FFF.
Otakus thought the Oreimo was THAT bad? I mean yeah its annoying that it took 12 novels to end what was essentially a circlejerk but mass burnings of the book? They crazy over there
I started reading the Oreimo novels in Japanese back in 2008 or something, and believe me, you will never understand the amount of rage I had when finished reading the last volume. I would have burnt the books myself for sure had it not delivered me a great girl like Ayase at least
BTW, do you think Ayase and Yukino could have known each other? Ayase's father is a politician as well and she lives in Chiba too. I believe the Takagakis and Yukinoshitas must have some sort of connection there
I just watch the anime so my opinion probably just doesn't matter much, but for some reason I can't really see their feelings for each other actually amounting to anything. I forgot why I thought that though.
>but why Fruit Basket?
If I recollect, one of the characters who thought was to be a male was in fact male and Takaya pissed fans off with the reveal.
You're absolutely right. So it's Story Time, boys and man-children.
1. I was Ayase pleb since she got introduced but I expected a Kiririn win, although the copout was stupid and was done to avoid excessive controversy.
2. If they were in the same prefecture, than it'd be possible. Yukino would shred the entire cast besides Saori and possibly Ayase in a conversation though. Would be amusing crossover nonetheless. Hell I'd write it.
3. Also translate image pls?
Oh and the skipped page was just a foreword. not even any Gorgeous Gahama Goddess Goodness on it.
No, I thought it was pretty obvious that Yukino and Hachiman had a thing for each other. It's just, I don't know how to explain it really. I feel like they know about each other's feelings already, but they also know that a relationship between them would not work. Like they'd be better off staying close friends.
That's probably just me projecting my own thoughts on them though.
whoever made the copypasta was probably some dirty pleb who doesn't understand the purity of sibling love.
I want at least a one shot volume of Komachi and Kirino encountering each other in Chiba and doing whatever around Chiba. Hell, they could even sell it to Otaku tourists to familiarize themselves with the area.
I agree with you more or less, though I feel like it's not terribly far off from what would happen if Yui actually got the courage to outright seduce 8man.
>>Yukino: But he loves this fuccboi way too much
fix'd, yui and yukino's asspain over 8man's obsession with totsuka is hilarious
I find it interesting how we get the stuff with 8man obsessing with Totsuka's photos contrasted with Iroha doing the same with Hayama though. I've always read 8man's obsession with Totsuka as one of the many lies he upholds himself to, and the juxtaposition of the scenes suggests we're meant to see them in parallel, so
And the extra pages for good measure
>Yui actually got the courage to outright seduce 8man.
that's the out of character part, really
8man spends most of this oujin just being in extreme denial which is a nice touch
I really just want to see the service club spend a night together just being qt and hanging out goddammit
> 8man: "oh a new email"
> Kyousuke: "I might have a problem, I love my little sister"
> 8man: "I don't see the problem"
> Kyousuke: "I love her more than any other girls"
> 8man: "Again, I don't see the problem"
> Kyousuke: "Does that mean you understand me?"
> 8man: "An older brother is supposed to love their little sister, it's just how nature works."
> Kyousuke: "As a woman? You know, lover...."
> 8man: "You sick fuck."
> Komachi: "Who is that?"
> 8man: "You don't want to know"
A present for Yukinoshita, huh…?
I wonder what’s good…
Clumsy Yukinoshita-san, in short, Clumsishita-san, but anyway, you really were putting me on the spot, Clumsinon. Aside from the things she liked, she was someone who liked practical things. Actually, her interests were pretty much that. As for reading related material, she probably had quite a bit of stuff already and since she was living alone, she probably had sufficient living necessities and cookware already. Chopping boards were standard equipment for her chest, too.
Flat is justice！
precisely. but a Yuifag can, nay, HAS to dream.
because he was suggesting it, and you dont take a girl to a italian place in japan after a date. You go to a cafe, where you pay 500yen for a coffee and then you buy them a little short cake to remind them you'll be cumming in them like chantillea cream.
Totsuka is the end of the dark loner path 8man is walking, hachi expects rejection and ridicule from women with harassment from other men.
Totsuka wouldn't resist if hachi made any kind of move what so ever,
Trap end is the only end that doesn't result in 8man being a cuck or compromising his ideals.
Hachiman: How about Saize?
Orimoto: Saize? lololol XD
Hachiman: How about some ramen?
Iroha: That's an awful choice, senapi
Iroha: But the ramen was good and you took me to where I couldn't go alone so thank you
Based Iroha. Too bad she's only practicing for Hayama
Yahallo to the best girl.
>Too bad she's only practicing for Hayama
But she still needs practice with the kissu, the baby-making and the marriage.
Based 8man will help his kouhai practice.
hits harder than it should
He looks like Zaimokuza
Keep telling yourself that. The epilogue will be 8man waking up with his kouhai on his bed.
When Yukino and Hachiman start going out, Yui will certainly bless them and wish them the best. She's a nice girl
About Iroha, though...I think she's the kind of girl who won't hesitate a second snatching other's man and keep seducing Hachiman anyway
>mfw the next series is titled 'Oreshura; My Girlfriend and Kouhai Fight Too Much'
Yes you are, she's just going from "I'm mad at life retarded" to "I'm chasing your shadow retarded".
And with volume 11 coming up in june, she'll be "My family is retarded like me".
Big fucking deal right there, huh.
How bad your taste must be to actually like Yukino?
Yukino is for people with best taste.
well, /a/? Do you have vulgar motives?
She's a good girl, otherwise Yui wouldn't care about her so much. Knowing that, there's no way I could hate her even for something like stealing 8man's heart.
It's not bad change. He ust finally starts to be honest with his feelings, even those that don't really make logical sense.
He's still The 8 Knight at heart, he just starts doing it for the right reasons.
Man I can't believe I only noticed that today
>implying Yui isn't just a scatterbrained airhead with no clue how to make real friends
>implying Yukinon doesn't lash out at everyone for failing to meet her impossibly high standards
>implying love can transcend gender
>implying any of them will form lasting relationships beyond tolerating each other's faults
>implying they won't all go their separate ways after graduating from high school, having nothing in common besides being terrible at interpersonal relationships
>implying any of this will matter, because the moment Sensei hands 8man his diploma, she'll drag him off to the parking lot and she'll unleash three years worth of desperate, lonely, rough sex on him
>implying when she cums, her legs locked tightly around his back and her breath gasping in his ears, she won't cling so hard to his back her nails will leave bright red marks that will smell faintly of cigarette smoke for days
>implying she won't burst into tears afterwards, the rush of pent-up and released emotions too much for her to handle so quickly
>implying 8man won't drop his hands-off policy for the first time in his life and sit there quietly, holding her tight until she calms down
>implying they won't smile at each other shyly and awkwardly at first, then full-blown grinning to happy laughter because now for the first time in a very long time, everything is going to be alright
>implying this isn't exactly what Watari needs to animate for the spinoff OVA
Despite getting supposedly rejected from Destinyland, Iroha is still forcing Hachiman through various trial to prepare herself for Hayama...again.
That's where 2 lines are drawn:
1. Iroha is using Hayama as an excuse to get Hachiman = Iroha supporters
2. Iroha is just using Hachiman to get Hayama. Like asking if Hayama went to the New Years shrine and confronting Yukinoshita about the rumour.
Why are all these teenagers and the adults around them treating their highschool relationship dramas like some kind of medieval politics? None of it fucking matters, you'll have a totally new social environment when you all end up going to different colleges anyway.
Yes, both Iroha theories are feasible.
Yukino liking Hayama makes no sense at all and would go against everything she does and says in the entire series. There's also the fact that she confirms to everyone, from Mirua to 8man and Yui that there's nothing and there never will be nothing between them.
After the confession, Hayama tells 8man that her feelings weren't meant for him(Hayama).
Basically her confession was bullshit, just like the countless confessions Hayama received later in volume 10.
Why would you need the images of a girl who's not the best?
I don't think her feelings were meant to 8man either.
From the way 8man talks about her, it seems like she's more concerned about her social standing and impressing others, than actually liking someone
She might not be the best girl but she is definitely cute.
>Yukino liking Hayama makes no sense
It could be tho.
>Yukino likes Hayama
>Hayama never chose Yukino
>Yukino now creates a distance from him
>Haruno learns Hayama likes her.
>Haruno then hates Hayama for not choosing Yukino
That or they only had a friendly relationship destroyed by their childhood peers singing the k-i-s-s-i-n-g song.
After reading the novel I can almost say with 90% certainty that Saki end might be a huge possibility, her interactions with Hachiman really happen at the most random places as if the author doesn't want her to become irrelevant while hinting heavily at an obvious attraction between the two, keeping that in mind and knowing Watari that tells us that Saki has a point in the story that we will discover later on.
I'm not even rooting for her (Yui stronk), and I now that we are reading a LN so keeping a character relevant for no apparent reasons might just be blatant pandering but it's just a feeling I got and I felt like throwing it out there.
> the adults around them treating their highschool relationship dramas like some kind of medieval politics
no they're not
Sensei tells 8man as much that he and Yui don't have to be the ones to form a lasting relationship with Yukino, it's just that right now they're the only ones in a position who can
Plus, what's at stake isn't just their relationships with each other but who they are as people. You think 8man or Yukino at the beginning of the story would have made friends once they entered college?
Like sensei said, it's possible, but that's not the point - at this specific junction in time (high school), 8man, Yui, and Yukino are poised to build important memories together so they might as well try their best
basically it matters if only for their emotional well-being. Just because you cut ties with your high school and imagine you led a totally different life in university doesn't mean it didn't affect you as a person
Well nothing has been confirmed yet. I do think that it was a mix of:
>Hayama liking Haruno
>Classmates shipping Hayama and Yukino
>Hayama acting like an asshole to Yukino, so people would stop talking about them
>Yukino retreating into a shell
>Haruno starts to hate Hayama
They fucking hate each other. Respectfully hate, but hate.
I'm hoping for a bittersweet ending where they both realize that can't be in a relationship right now, and each follows their own path, promising to meet again later.
It's the reason don't want a Yui or a Iroha ending. I don't think this series should have a straighforward happy ending.
I agree, consistency is certainly pleasant in animation. However, I can't help but feel that it's a good thing. I feel the same thing for manga. If the art improves it just feels more pleasant to read/watch.
IFrom the way she talked about it, it's likely that there was a spark for Hayama there. But then she got another one from 8man, and she seems to treasure that one even more.
Not because of hachiman:
Hayama sees 8man as his rival, so when people insult 8man, he feels pathetic, because he feels inferior to the man they're insulting.
>Hayama acting like an asshole to Yukino
You're missing his character here, /a/non. Hayama is a guy who does nothing. So, when it come to their past, it should be more like Hayama didn't do anything to save Yukino because muh everybody friends and that's why the childhood friendship got ruined for good
"This...this isn't part of the order, so you can so you can say no tif you want, but...during spring break, would you like t..."
"Geh, I didn't even finish!"
"Do it properly."
Friendly reminder that Yukion has dethroned Misaka Mikoto from the seat of the best LN female MC who had been securing the position for FIVE YEARS
Talk about Iroha popularity now
>Hayama is a guy who does nothing.
>So, when it come to their past, it should be more like Hayama didn't do anything to save
Precisely. And that is why he developed the [ muh everybody friends] mentality after that.
>Valentine's Day arrives
>Saki gives 8man chocolates
I want to believe it's possible, but 8man is so clearly attracted to Yukino, I don't see how he can suddenly date Saki.
She's a big girl
nah fuck that, straightforward happy endings are all to rare these days.
People always complain about fairy-tale endings like they're impossible and hold up bittersweet endings like they're the only truth of reality, but it's not as if real life is completely devoid of those moments of pure, unadulterated happiness either.
With Oregairu especially, I think that the emphasis on how the reality of one's youth contrasts from the expectations we get from stories would be much better concluded with an ending reminding us that sometimes even in spite of the harshness of reality people can still find that one brilliantly shining and unobstructed ray of light.
tl;dr: the further I get in my LN readthrough the harder it is to keep from being too hopeful for Yui end.
>Watari that tells us that Saki has a point in the story that we will discover later on.
this is a ruse right? recently i've got some thought that girls who got wataru watari ish name
could be the end game or at least play a vital role
>I was interrupted by Isshiki’s sliding movement towards my side.
>“That’s why, for now…”
>Isshiki stopped her words there and moved her lips to my ears as if to say something secretly with deceiving eyes at the end.
>She added some spice smeared with sugar.
>“You’re the only one that I’ll act this way with, senpai.””
B-BUT IROHA HAS NO FEELINGS FOR HACHIMAN
>There is nothing to doubt about the inevitability of Yukino end if you have read the LNs. The question is just how they will get it done. You know Yukino and Hachiman are not emo teens from a typical high school romance, and they will never hug or kiss each other passionately. How do you think they will confess their love towards each other and confirm it together?
The author is going for a catcher in the rye ending. so even if yukinon and 8man hook up it will still be a bitter sweet and loveless ending. If you don't believe me read catcher in the rye, take away the infantile swearing and you got 8man and his life to a T.
8man is clearly modeled after HC.
I honestly doubt Komachi would bother giving 8man chocolate considering she knows 8man has friends now
I can imagine her giving him sympathy chocolate since he's sad and alone most of the time but right now? Probably not.
Also I doubt Yui and Yukino would call the chocolate they give to 8man anything more than giri chocolate
although it's obvious Yui put a lot of effort into hers/it's handmade, while Yukino doesn't give anyone else chocolate so it's a moot point
As for Iroha, my headcanon/fanfic is that she absentmindedly hands 8man giri chocolate, enlists his help in making sure Iroha giving Hayama her special chocolate isn't interrupted/it's a special event, so 8man contrives a situation where Iroha and Hayama can be alone
cue 8man running into Iroha being sad because she claims Hayama flat out rejected her feelings, then asks 8man to help her finish her chocolate since it's an obvious waste. Meanwhile Hayama talks to Tobe or whoever about what Iroha said and just mentions Iroha spaghetti'd out and handed her giri chocolates
Perfect ending would be 8man and Yukino eating Ramen as Sensei watches them from afar.
8man's narrates that someone else will take care of the service club eventually, as we timeskip to an older Rumi sitting in the same chair 8man used to sit on.
I just want Sensei to be happy.
I'd love to abduct and rape her for 3 days straight, cumming inside until her womb was swollen with my cum. Afterwards, I'd take dozens of pictures and blackmail her. I'd promise to get her an abortion if she kept meeting up with me.
Sensei with her husband and child meets Hachiman, who's now in his 20s and with Yukino and their kid
Hachiman jokes how she's many years older than him and yet their kids are about the same age
Two families then go to each ramen together
Meanwhile at Soubu High
>Rumi: Please somebody marry Yuigahama-sensei, otherwise I will have to marry her!
the manuscript already handled to the editor for the next work to be published
the artist got side romance syndrome, although in some cases the side couple did surpass the main couple
8man and HC do have many parallels to each other, but the author's clearly been showing that 8man is changing through the course of the story (like trying to protect the "phony" social interactions vol 10), unlike HC who never changes.
So the ending's probably going to have 8man actually accepting that the world doesn't hate him, and that he's had the genuine thing that he's wanted in the relationships he currently has.
>I want to believe it's possible, but 8man is so clearly attracted to Yukino, I don't see how he can suddenly date Saki.
you know what i dislike about the whole yukino/8man relationship?
it's sick. Seriously, 8man has been told he's basically a worthless peice of shit since the day he was born. he's been ostricised publically every step of his life. Does Yukinon EVER once validate his worth as a human being? Nope. not once in any of the LNs does she ever validate his existence. instead she denongrates him, insults him, casts insults at him and generally treats him like trash.
Even when she's deredere for him she still treats him like a peice of shit. she makes zero effort to empathize with his life or situation, and instead focuses on "changing" him as if all the unfair social stigma he faces is 100% his fault.
He already hates himself, he doesn't need some stuck up bitch telling him he's trash 24/7 too. If changing was as simple as "wanting" to be popular i'm sure he would have changed long before meeting her.
furthermore, her whole basis of admirition for him is based on a misunderstanding. She likes him because she thinks he is an outcast because he hates stupid people and stupid society and chose to be an outcast. Just like her. She's wrong of course, he hates being an outcast, he might hate the people who treat him like filth, but deep down inside he hates being alone. Yukinon, on the other hand has CHOSEN to be an outcast. unlike 8man she could be popular if she wanted to be. she's chosen to be an outcast because she sees popular people as shallow. In reality she's projecting Hayato on all "popular" people.
Their relationship is sick. There is no love or respect there, just lies, deception and misunderstandings piled upon some S&M and a topping of emo loneliness. 8man would be much happier with any number of other girls in this story.
I would almost be willing to let Yui's inevitable suffering slide if Watari wrote the epilogue to include Zaimokuza cleaning up his act and marrying Sensei.
> Please somebody marry Yuigahama-sensei, otherwise I will have to marry her!
No jesus she's suffering enough already.
Now I feel bad for Iroha.
>Does Yukinon EVER once validate his worth as a human being?
>There's no love or respect there.
Both of those are wrong. if you had paid attention to te LN's, you'd have realized that both of them believe that words are meaningless. It's the feelings, actions and emotions that truly matter.
Just take the Pansan 8man gave to her all the way back near the start of the series. In Vol.09, she says that she truly treasure's it, or think about how 8man reactes when she touches his hand in the rollercoaster.
Their interactions go beyond words.
From what I got out of Vol.09, it seems she's trying to make sure that 8man doesn't throw his opportunity for happiness out the window, like she probably did sometime in the past.
you clearly didn't get what i was saying.
whatever love/respect there is between them is based on a LIE. those two characters misunderstand each other far worse then any other characters in the story.
It's not that they misunderstand each other, it's just that up until Vol.09, they had never even tried to actually understand each other. They were projecting.
Their relationship was shallow. 8man is the one that finally realizes that he wants to turn it into something genuine.
>Just take the Pansan 8man gave to her all the way back near the start of the series. In Vol.09, she says that she truly treasure's it, or think about how 8man reactes when she touches his hand in the rollercoaster.
>Their interactions go beyond words.
seriously? you're seriously going with that? if that's your standard yui is so far ahead of yukinon there isn't even a contest.
we all know that is NOT true. as yui is still stuck at the starting line because she's not first girl and her relationship with 8man will never go anywhere.
you're doing the same thing 8man did in his past. taking incidental nonsense and making it bigger then it is and misinterpreting it.
Everyone with some reading comprehension knows that Iroha wants the 8incher.
You should ignore the denialfags/samefag that say otherwise.
>whatever love/respect there is between them is based on a LIE
>whatever love/respect there is between them is based on a LIE
You're completely wrong. The admiration he had for her was based on lie.
Their actual relationship now is based on something else: Their mutual desires to have something truly genuine.
meh, characters that change the world around them are more interesting that characters that get changed by it. of course, both can happen, but the former is much more entertaining.
8man is a special case though, he should really lose the self-pity. other than that he's ok though.