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What is the first anime or manga that comes to mind when you hear the word pretentious?

Hardmode: No Evangelion
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Anything by Ikuhara.
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>>124829758
monster
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Madoka
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>>124829758
Monogatari series.
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>>124829758
Guilty Crown.
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>>124829797
This. Add anything ABe to this list as well.
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woops I broke hard mode but I like Evangelion
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>>124829938
I don't know, man, Monogatari never really seemed to me like it was trying to be deep or anything. It felt more like the whole thing was an elaborate plot to make me feel like the foulest of pedophiles.
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You're favorite anime.
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>>124829758
Texhnolyze
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>>124829758
Anything by Nisio Isin.
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>>124830555
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>>124829938
It always makes me laugh that people call a show based on puns and fanservice pretentious.

What is your idea of non-pretentious fun? Somebody farting into a microphone for 22 minutes?
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>>124829938
Definitely this.
Mostly just because /a/ pretends it is all the time.
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As an anime: Psycho Pass

Anime fans: HxHfags.
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>>124830628
>What is your idea of non-pretentious fun?

My favorite anime
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Pretentious doesn't mean much when it comes from the ~80 IQ average /a/non.
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>>124830672
>psycho pass
>pretentious

what
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>>124830668
Do you even browse this board? Virtually all Monogatari discussion is just best girl arguments or image dumps.
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>>124830712
See
>>124830709

The hivemind will hate on any anime that attempts to be intellectual, 10x so if it lacks otaku fanservice.
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Hyouka.

I still love it, but I wish the fanbase wasn't so overly defensive and unable to handle the bantz.
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My vote goes to the monogatari franchise. Absolutely anything from that towers head and shoulders above most of the rest in the pretentious stakes, followed probably by the SZS franchise.
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Lain isnt pretentious
and how is monogatari pretentious LOL
THE PEDO FANSERVICE IS 2DEEP
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>>124829758
Ergo Proxy
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Ergo Proxy
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>>124830232
Just no.
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>>124830712
>create Dystopian world
>in lieu of actual critiques of society, just quote a bunch of novelists and philosophers that justify the absurdities in your story
Psycho Pass is definitively pretentious. It's a dumb person's idea of an intellectual anime, like this guy >>124830746
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>ctrl-f
>ergo proxy
>0 results
what the hell /a/?
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>>124830798
>a harem fan service show and a sketch comedy anime
Do you even know what pretentious means? Tell me, what does Monogatari or SZS pretend to be?
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>>124830876
Here lies the intellectually blunted anon who thinks he can critque a series because "it quoted smart people ergo bad", unable to understand the basic concepts they spell out in the first episode
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>>124830917
what
>>124830827
>>124830847
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>>124830917
Are you blind?
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>>124830827
This.
it was a great show but their constant 2deep4u episodes were by far the worst part.
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>>124830798
maybe your axle is broke
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>>124830827
>>124830847
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>>124829938
How is Monogatari anything resembling pretentious? It's just a harem anime with wordplay humor.
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>>124830464
I watched that a couple of weeks ago, expecting it to be the same kind of incoherent, pretentious garbage like Lain, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad. I regret avoiding it for so long.
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Bing Bong
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>>124830979
Psycho Pass did nothing original. It didn't provide any unique insights, it just regurgitated established philosophy in absurd scenarios. You are only proving what a layman you are by considering it "intellectual".
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>>124831133
You literally think psychopass was about philosophy and not a cyberpunk future based on predictive analysis of human behavior

Sad, even by /a/'s standards
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>>124831097
> incoherent, pretentious garbage like Lain
You don't even know what Lain was about, do you?
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fullmetal alchemist (not brotherhood)
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>>124831097
You don't seem to understand
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>>124831097
Daily reminder if you're unfamiliar with the OSI layer, you're not the intended audience of Lain
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>>124829758
Serial Experiments Lain
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>>124831181
You sound like you read a wikipedia synopsis of the plot but never suffered Makishima's eye-rolling freshman level philosophizing.
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>>124829758
Gunbuster.
Let's have the last episode be in black/white! That would be so artistic!
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>>124831290
Ah and now we see the reason anon is so butthurt, he didn't like Makishima

He kill your waifu or something?
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>>124831082
People who say Monogatari is pretentious never even tried watching it.
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>>124829938
Pretty much
It's not even a very good show, I don't know why you people treat it like the second coming and treat it like a depthful masterpiece.
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>>124831365
>desperately trying to defend a vacuous turd like Psycho Pass
>calls others butthurt
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SZS, but that's intentional and part of the comedy
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>>124831243
>lain's classmate sudokus while connected to the wire
>lain asks best daddy to buy her a computer
>lain receives a computa and emails from classmate
>lain and her gfs go to the bar
>lain encounters the crazy man with the gun
>lain understands that killing anybody won't matter because it will put him behind bars
>lain finds out child's game which basically kills children and is being distributed by the Knights
>lain tracks down the Knights and the assassin men kill them
>lain gets 2deep and becomes a Knight herself
>lain erases herself from reality because if no one remembers her, she never existed

PRESENT DAY
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>>124831365
>>124830979
>Here lies the intellectually blunted anon who thinks he can
>we see the reason anon is so butthurt

Are you some kind of narrator? Fuck off with that shit.
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>>124831486
>I'm too stupid to understand so it's bad and pretentious
- this thread
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>>124831462
> treat it like a depthful masterpiece.
Literally nobody does that here. Where the fuck are you from? Reddit?
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What's wrong guys?

Did it really cut you deep when you were called a nerd and bullied in school, but you weren't actually intelligent?
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>>124829758
Madoka
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>>124831532
>thinks Psycho Pass is hard to understand
>thinks he's smart for being able to follow an anime written by a light novelist
It figures pretentious teenagers like pretentious anime.
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>>124831539
Look at any 3x3 or Monogatari thread.
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>>124831601
I post in Monogatari threads constantly, and it's obvious you don't. They are literally nothing but people arguing over which girl is best or which girl is shit. The closest you get to people actually having an argument with substance is when they talk about character arcs.
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>>124831512
What about all that shit with her sister?
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>>124831592
Not hard to understand for me, simply incredibly evident it's actually substantial and novel compared to the vast majority of anime, which is mindless garbage, shit that people like you enjoy and rely upon to distract you from the vacuousness of your lives.

It's still far inferior to any decent book, but 90% of anime is so fucking shit that it still stands out among the rest.
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>>124831674
The Knights were controlling her wirelessly and watching Lain
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Don't do drugs kids!
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>>124829758
Ergo proxy

That one guy with the bat and everything was a dream.

I know I'm going to get hate for this LOGH
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>>124831512
Why was Lain a bitch to her friend and revealed to everyone that she's a slut?
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>>124829758
penguindumb
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>>124831850
>That one guy with the bat and everything was a dream.

I agree with this one. The episode with the old man, middle-age man, and young girl was the best episode.
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>>124831726
>this anime appeals to my pretentious fantasy of being an intellectual so that means it's deep and amazing
Man are you going to be disappointed if you ever find out the intellectual world doesn't care how many "deep" anime you've watched, but I suppose that would require you to leave your meticulously crafted bubble of self-delusion, huh?
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>>124831864
That wasn't Lain, that was Wired Lain which isn't the Lain.

Arisu a shit though
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>>124831924
Man you're really fucking furious about people being smarter than you.

Love how you project your own shut-in lifestyle onto others.

Get some professional help.
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>>124831097
My thoughts exactly.
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I don't think Miyazaki's movies are pretentious but almost everything that comes out of his mouth is.
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Fucking Mirai Nikki, and I also agree on Psycho Pass
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>>124830798
Do you even know what pretentious means?
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>>124832112
How the fuck was Mirai Nikki pretentious?

Psycho Pass wasn't really that pretentious, I don't know why does a large part of /a/ get htat idea. It was just a bit dumb.
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>what?! A socially acceptable anime that isn't vapid?

>IT'S SHIT AHHHH PRETENTIOUS GARBAGE
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>>124831726
Why are you even on this board?
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>>124832197
>I don't know why does a large part of /a/ get htat idea
see
>>124832228

Literally just like Fate/Zero

There is nothing hiveminders fear more than their only refuge in life being taken from them
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>>124831985
It's funny you mention projection, cause that's what you did just now, projecting your insecurity of being perceived as intelligent onto me. That's pretty much the reason kids like you latch onto pretentious anime, it's cause you desperately want to be taken seriously but don't have the wherewithal to go through academia to get the recognition you crave. So you just lower the bar for intellectualism until you can step over it without tripping. Who needs the rigors of formal education when you can just get intellectual kudos by watching anime, am I right?

It's easy to pretend you're some kind of genius when you make sure nothing you read or watch challenges your intellect. You're like a child who thinks he's the strongest kid on the playground because he only fights toddlers.
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>>124832263
Because I like the 10% of anime that isn't shit, and communities with usernames and post counts and regdates are unforgivably bad
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>>124831601
There's a lot of us who enjoy watching the show, doesn't mean we think it's a masterpiece just because we watch it. 99% of the time it's just people bickering over who they think is best girl (the answer is monkey).

I've only seen the first season, but I don't really feel compelled to watch anything more of the series.
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>>124832282
>Straw manning this hard
I love it. You're both delusional.
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>>124832274
Fate/Zero is literally fanfic garbage

t. avid vn reader
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>>124832282
>Projecting your own inferiority upon others
That's real cute kiddo. I have a graduate degree and made 6 figures last year.

But you won't believe that because you can't conceptualize anyone who isn't a failure at life like yourself using 4chan
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>>124832416
Nasu is a hack and only VNeets like a shitty low budget powerpoint eroge over a glorious anime

Stay mad that F/Z sold 50k and UBW won't get even half of that.
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>>124829758
Steins;Gate
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>>124832416
>Fate/Zero is literally fanfic garbage
It was extremely entertaining. I don't watch fucking anime for depth.
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>>124832426
>I'm not insecure!
>demonstrates textbook insecurity by posting what he believes to be impressive credentials on an anonymous imageboard when somebody called him stupid
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>>124832474
>implying i care about how much anime sells
>implying i care about the most autistic artform

stay autistic american
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>>124832474
i would have much rather seen one of the other routes
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>>124832534
>YOU CAN'T EVEN GO TO COLLEGE
>I did though
>YOU'RE SO INSECURE

This is why there's no point arguing with double digit IQers.

Ok anon you won the argument! God knows you need it to give your life meaning and purpose.
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>>124832282
I think they miss you on pol and lit right now my friend. You better go.
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>This whole topic
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Lain, I guess? It's amazing, but I think it fits.
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>>124832535
The most autistic medium, Visual Novels, seem to be what you hail from

Why a /jp/spie turboNEET is on /a/ I don't know
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Your mom
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>>124832601
>still harping about how smart he is for watching anime
That's some chip on your shoulder. Here's a protip: maybe don't flip out every time a person says you're not smart, and they won't think you're trying so hard to prove them wrong.
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Black Fucking Lagoon
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Elfen Lied
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>>124832601
Was this an argument? I thought you were just desperately trying to show me how smart you were. Because you're totally not insecure and don't care how I or anyone else perceives your intellect (or lack thereof, in this case).
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>>124832652
Novels - least autistic
Light Novels
Visual Novels
Manga
Anime - most autistic

>being unable to apperciate writing
>calling me a turboNEET for liking VNs
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>>124832717
>gratuitous gunfights: the anime
>pretentious
Did you think the Expendables movies were pretentious too?
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>>124832802
How are anime and manga the most autistic? Go ahead and explain that for us, given that they're the most normal, socially accepted, and diverse of all you listed.
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>>124829758
Oyasumi Punpun
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>>124832895
It needs visuals to actually grab the audience. Visual learners are the most autistic
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>>124829758
Lain
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>>124832994
>visual novel
irony
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>>124832994
Autists most learn through hard fact and number, not visuals. They actually learn through visuals less so than other people. Why do you think they're so bad and remembering faces, yet so good at telling you exactly when every major event took place in some war?
Also, it's worth noting that every light novel/visual novel NEEDS cute girls and fanservice on the cover, or it won't sell.
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>>124832822
>look at how edgy we are!
>we're so edgy and cool we can just totally scrap the plot

pretentious: characterized by assumption of dignity or importance, especially when exaggerated or undeserved:
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Glasslip
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>>124829758
Psycho-pass 2
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>>124829758
Ergo Proxy, it was still enjoyable but throwing around quotes and wikipedia philosophy to look smart ends up having the opposite effect. Texhnolyze did it right.
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I don't think of any anime or manga, just autistic shitposters.
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>>124830668
>because /a/ pretends it is all the time
You never been to a Monogatari thread?
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>>124832112
Mirai Nikki wasn't pretentious at all though.
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The Monogatari series
Mahouka
KyoAni
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Why is this thread such shit?
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Uchouten Kazoku
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>>124833759
Best answer.
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>>124832994
Why is it you faggots don't know what autism is? I understand it gets abused as a buzzword, but you're legitimately trying to argue something kind of point and still don't know what it means.
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not sure about "pretentious" because they're all pretentious to an extent but in terms of being "overly preachy" ..

jinrui wa suitai shimashita
psychopass (esp. 2nd season)
and magical index (i.e. touma's endless ranting about doing the right thing)

all come to mind.
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>>124833941
I fail to see how a whole studio can be pretentious.
I bet you think "forced animation" is valid criticism too
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Ergo Proxy and Aku no Hana. The AnH manga straddled the line pretty well where it came off as more humorous in the sort of way you'd find children trying to look adult to be amusing while still being interesting. The anime went too far and become a complete joke.
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>>124834627
The word you're looking for is didactic not pretentious.
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>>124834699
They suck but fanboys pretend they're good
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>>124833893
It tried to go for a big "defy fate" message, that ended up falling flat on it's ass.
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>>124834699
It is for movies like Nerawareta Gakuen.
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>>124829938
T H I S
H
I
S
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>>124834886
That doesn't make the studio pretentious by any definition. Refresh yourself on what the word means.
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ITT : Stupid people with a chip on their shoulder
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Fatefags
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>>124835044
you sound very pretentious too
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>>124835325
Sorry, I'll fix that for you.

>>124834886
You're fucking retarded.
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>>124835441
Ah, glad you agree that KyoAni is highly pretentious.
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>>124835547
You fail the literacy test.
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>Wah there's something unconventional about this series so it must be trying too hard to impress people dumber than me
Everyone posting in this thread or any other like it unironically are legitimate bakas
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>>124835092
That's no mere chip.
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>>124829758
Death Note
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Better yet
Who is Kubrick of anime?
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>>124832802
Agree with the rest, but Light Novels should be bottom of the list.
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