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>“I’ve never gotten anything out of his works. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual, and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Anno is a fucking bore. He’s made his films for the fans. One of the movies, End of Evangelion was screened here in London. It was mind-numbingly boring.”
Christopher Nolan on Anno

>“His gifts as a director are enormous. I just can’t take him very seriously as a thinker — and that’s where we seem to differ, because he does. His message is what he cares about these days, and, like most anime messages, it could be written on the head of a pin.”
Masaaki Yuasa on Anno

>“Someone like Hideaki Anno is for me intellectual counterfeit money when compared to a good KyoAni show”
Shinichiro Watanabe on Anno

Why is he such a hack?
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I highly doubt the authenticity of these quotes. Also Shimamoto convinced me that Anno is a bro.
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>>124583572
It's funny because EoE alone is better that those three's entire life's work.
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its funny cs these are all on some comic book writer originally grant morrison
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>>124583683
No need to be such a hothead about things, Anon
It's only a matter of opinion
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Not defending Anno but Christopher Nolan talking about intellectualism is a joke.
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>“I’ve never gotten anything out of his works. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual, and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Nolan is a fucking bore. He’s made his films for the fans. One of the movies, The Dark Knight Rises was screened here in London. It was mind-numbingly boring.”
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>>124583798

>Dark Knight Rises
>Cinematographically Uninteresting

Say what you will about the overall quality of the film but even it's biggest detractors will admit the cinematography is great.
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How someone can't love this creature?
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>>124583572
>when compared to a good KyoAni show

Now that's comedy fucking gold
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>>124583859
Yeah, I love the part where everyone forgets they have guns and just starts pretending to punch each other.
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>>124583572
>Christopher Nolan
As if he was any better. Not like this trash is true anyways.
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>>124584041

That's got nothing to do with the fucking cinematography you fucking pleb
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>"Citations without a source are extremely reliable."
Julius Caesar
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>>124584136
>Implying the content of a scene is not cinematography
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>>124584101
>>124583683
>>124584030
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>>124584325
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People actually fell for this.

This is low, even for /a/ standars.
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>"SOMEONE GET THIS HOTHEADU OUTTA HERE"
Hideaki Anno on Nolan
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>Evangelion isn't a masterpiece because it is genuinely good, Evangelion is good because it is flawed, terribly written and very, very honest. Hideaki Anno wasn't an scholar or a particularly smart person; Hideaki Anno, during Evangelion,'s production, was a depressed and angry college drop-out with little education that poured all of his frustrations and disappointment into a TV show inspired by everything he loved in life, this everything being Go Nagai manga and Tomino anime as we all know that Evangelion's story is nothing but a joint of quotations of Go Nagai and Tomino stories. Anno's childish temper, anger, lack of talent and restraint and depressed nature are the reason Evangelion is brilliant.
Mexican who pretends to be a little girl online on Anno
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>>124583572
>“I’ve never gotten anything out of his works. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual, and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Anno is a fucking bore. He’s made his films for the fans. One of the movies, End of Evangelion was screened here in London. It was mind-numbingly boring.”
> Faux intellectual

> "have the Totem wobble to symbolize .... um ... er ...
> BBBBUUUUHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> the end
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>>124584597
I can get behind this.
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>>124584597
Me da asco tu opinión pinche puto, ponte a ver K-on o Lucky Star, Eva es 2deep4u.
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The actual source of these quotes is interesting to me as a film fan, thanks OP.
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so who the hell is Christopher Nolan or any other of those nobodies again?
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>>124583572
All of these quotes are about Godard's work.
Godard you're such a hack.
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>>124584778
I know /a/ doesn't leave the house very often, I mean, I don't either but do you guys seriously have no social connections outside of /a/?
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>>124583572
to be fair anno has never made anything as based as amagi brilliant park so watanabe probably has a point
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>>124584430
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>>124584597
>terribly written
much of the rest is semi true, but it is not in any way terribly written.
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Inception is much better than anything Anno did.
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>>124583859
That's more than shit tier taste.
Nolan has no clue about cinematography. The general composition of his movies is complete garbage.
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Name a single scene in anime as iconic, quotable, exciting, engaging and philosophical as this.

You can't.
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>>124584899
>Inception

At least pick one of Nolan's decent works.
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>>124583572
Sources?
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Who /tv/ here?
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>>124584933
inception is almost flawless cept the stupid open ending.
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>>124584778
>>>/out/
seriously
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>>124583683
It's even funnier when you realize the Komm Susser Tod sequence in EoE is better than those three's entire life's work.
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>>124584968

A true /tv/ poster would immediately recognise this pasta
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>>124584968
i am free range, like a fucking normal person and not one restrained to the cult of one section of this pathetic open fourm, dumbass
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I like Nolan as a director and all, but the guy who directed Interstellar has no place to talk about other people's pseudo-intellectualism falling flat on its face.
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>>124583572
Next time drop Yuasa and Watanabe and instead go with the three meme-directors. Nolan, Del Toro and Tarantino.
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>>124584935
They're all criticisms of Godard, actually.

The first one is actually Ingmar Bergman.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ingmar_Bergman#Jan_Aghed_interview_.282002.29

The third one is from Werner Herzog.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Werner_Herzog#Herzog_on_Herzog_.282002.29

The third one appears to be from Orsen Welles but I can't find a credible source for it.
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>>124584845
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>>124585008

It's even funnier when you realise that Ping Pong the Animation has better characterisation then anything Anno could even dream of. Anno comes up with some good visual direction but his works are all spectacle with no substance beyond surface level Biblical symbolism and outdated Freudian metaphors.
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>>124585030
it was brilliant beyond words just as eoe was, if this was a real quote (which its not) he was saying it out of anger that his source of inspiration was mentioned to his face.
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>>124585098
>it was brilliant beyond words
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>>124585081
>all spectacle with no substance beyond surface level Biblical symbolism and outdated Freudian metaphors.
BULL FUCKING SHIT, eoe is a deep endlessly eternal masterpiece of meditation on human beings interaction and how they hurt and need each other.
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>>124585081
I haven't watched Ping Pong yet. It's on my backlog. I hear it's good though.
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>There are anons on /a/ RIGHT NOW that think Nolan is a good director
And I thought /a/ had some taste.

>>124585008
Even if this is bait, you are kind of right. Maybe Yuasa is an exception though.
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>>124584893

It absolutely is terribly written. Eva has one of the most childish, amateurish scripts in anime history. This has been the consensus of anime scholars for many years now, step up senpai. Anno is a good director and animator but devoid of ability as a writer.
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>>124585185
> considers writing children characters as being childish a artist flaw...
> considers his opinion valid...
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>>124585164

>Shinji - waaaa I hate everyone people are too hard to deal with
>bunch of bullshit barely coherent animation
>Shinji - I realise now that I like people
>Asuka - Dude ur a freak
>the end

BRAVO ANNO
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>>124585185
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>>124585081
>better characterisation
Not really. The girl's character was as flat as a pancake
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>>124585255
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>>124585185
Anno's writing is comparable to that of the ancient greeks, stop spouting shit you pleb. I bet you like Quentin Tarantino and Nolan as writer.

>>124585251
Your criticism is invalid. I could do what you are doing to every work of fiction ever made.
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>>124584968
Fuck off, you already took /m/.
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>>124585391
They are both better writers than Anno.
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>>124585391
Why does /tv/ hate Tarantino? I've never seen any of his movies, but I could've sworn he was a guy whose movies were generally well-received.
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>>124585391

>Anno's writing is comparable to that of the ancient greeks
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>>124583572
BASED NOLAN
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>>124585488
IMO his movies don't do anything the movies he copies don't do better.
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4. Ingmar Bergman on Jean-Luc Godard:
“I’ve never gotten anything out of his movies. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual, and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Godard is a fucking bore. He’s made his films for the critics. One of the movies, Masculin, Féminin, was shot here in Sweden. It was mind-numbingly boring.”

5. Orson Welles on Jean-Luc Godard:
“His gifts as a director are enormous. I just can’t take him very seriously as a thinker — and that’s where we seem to differ, because he does. His message is what he cares about these days, and, like most movie messages, it could be written on the head of a pin.”

6. Werner Herzog on Jean-Luc Godard:
“Someone like Jean-Luc Godard is for me intellectual counterfeit money when compared to a good kung-fu film.”

http://flavorwire.com/200745/the-30-harshest-filmmaker-on-filmmaker-insults-in-history

Fun over.
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>Christopher Nolan
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>>124585488
I like his movies, they are well directed and the script is fun, but all of his movies are really shallow.

>>124585533
>if I post a gif that means I'm right
Nice argument you got there, you sure showed me.
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>anime is the greatest
t. iñarritu
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I'm all for bashing EVA, but I cannot support doing it by inserting fake opinions in mouths of famous people.
Memento and Inception alone > Anno's all works
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http://flavorwire.com/200745/the-30-harshest-filmmaker-on-filmmaker-insults-in-history

Neat
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>>124585488
His first three movies are incredible. I don't know what happened after that but his modern stuff isn't relevant.
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>>124585081
you could write a book describing the conflicts and theories of each character, including the side ones, in NGE. If you included what they contribute to the main theme and the juxtaposition with other characters it'd be a series of books.
You have shit taste.
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Why does /tv/ only consist of memes?
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>>124585963
Is a reflection of the current state of film industry.
Is like poetry, they rhyme.
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>>124585963
Because television and movies are as popular as it gets. Just like video games.
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>>124585963

Because it's funny, /a/ tries and fails to have serious discussion that quickly degenerate into circlejerks about animated chinese schoolgirls. /tv/ doesn't try to have serious discussion, it recognises the inherent folly of attempting that on 4chan and instead engages in fascinatingly postmodern series of every deepening meta-memes.
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>>124586130
Like an Ogre, this has so many layers.
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>>124585918
>his modern stuff isn't relevant
his most sold movies aren't relevant? i wonder what relevance means to you
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>>124585963
Mainstream medium attracts the worst userbase, like how 4chan becoming mainstream led to /b/ and /b/ equivalents being awful. /a/ only stretches towards decent because anime isn't nearly as popular a medium and most shitty anime fans choose to use sites like MAL or various fansites intsead.
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>>124583788
Without Hans Zimmer smoothing over his fuck-ups he'd be another M Night Schamalamadingdong
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>>124586296
I meant in terms of quality
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>>124586262
>Because it's funny
maybe if you're 14
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>>124586262
Go back to /tv/.
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>>124586313
this and the fact that /a/ is decently moderated
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>>124586511

You're posting in a /tv/ bait thread m8, you really should be the one to leave
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>>124584161

It isn't. You monumental spoon.
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>>124584597
Who are you quoting?
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what did /tv/ think of this movie?
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>>124586558
it's an evafag bait thread, not every mention of your meme-director is an invation
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>>124586616
He's quoting a mexican who pretends to be a little girl online, did you even read the post?
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>>124586677

I'm the OP, the post is a modification of a /tv/ pasta about Jean Luc Godard, replaced with anime related stuff.

Nolan should have tipped you off
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>>124585081
You're comparing apples and oranges. Criticizing a mecha show for relying on visuals and calling it >spectacle
is fucking retarded. It's like saying that jeopardy relies too heavily on quiz show dialogue. It is equally retarded to call a 19th century philosopher outdated. Freud wasn't exactly new when Eva premiered, but he's still relevant.

Ping Pong had completely different goals. You might say that it achieved those goals better (and I'd agree with you) bit you can hardly compare the two.
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>>124586723
There are people browsing /a/ who are this new.
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>>124585185
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>>124586262
>Because it's funny

No it's not. You know it's bad when /sp/ and /v/ have better discussions than you.
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>>124585284
>one character isn't fully developed
>that means it has bad characterization
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>people literally will fall for this bait
>people literally will believe these quotes

Embarrassing, /a/.
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>>124588722
>putting a pig on a pedestal
/a/ is shit, anon. Always has been, always will be.
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>>124589011
Nice dubs but /a/ has some shit but /tv/ is much more shit.
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>>124586262
This is the downright truth.
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>>124589061
>some
Lets be honest with eachother, Anonymous. Its a lot more than "some."
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>>124586822
>yfw you fell for reverse bait
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>>124589170
The old switcharoo! Well meme'd, friend.
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>>124589112
Let's put it this way.

If /a/ has 1 ton of shit /tv/ has 1000 ton of shit. /tv/ is so bad that even reddit with all of it's circlejerking bullshit is better. Basicly if someone says /tv/ is good or fun their tastes are so warped that anything they say is disregarded.

Have a good day!
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>Still replying to this fucking thread

Here's the original

“I’ve never gotten anything out of his movies. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Godard is a fucking bore. He’s made his films for the critics. One of the movies, Masculin féminin: 15 faits précis (1966), was shot here in Sweden. It was mind-numbingly boring.”

-Ingmar Bergman

Does getting replies on an anonymous internet board make you feel better about yourself op?
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>>124589231
/tv/ is the embodiment of the reddit stereotype. By their own admission, they only partake in their board subject for the sake of memes.
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>>124589231
Not really. /tv/ is only bad if you can't enjoy ironic memeing. Sorry you can't have fun.
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>>124585555
Not his quote, you enormous faggot.
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>>124585185

you are thinking of Rebuild. now go kill yourself.
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>>124585825
utter pleb. Nolan is definition of a hack, terrible writer, boring director.
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>>124589501
so it exists only for memes and shitposting, you admit to it being a shithole, you like living in that shithole and eating its shit but get defensive if someone talks shit about it? is that what i get?
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>>124585555
BASED QUADS
Now check mine
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>>124583572
Go back to /tv/.
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This thread is pure shit
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>>124584041
Nolan's cinematography is unremarkable, but that has nothing to do with what you're complaining about, you stupid shit.
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>>124583882
>I created Evangelion
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>"Anno a hack. Whales > giant kuudere. Fite me irl."
Bela Tarrkovskeezemeister on Anno
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>"Anno please let me suck your tiny jap penis. Just one glance would be good enough I only live to please you."
Anon on Anno
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>>124585825
Memento is the only memorable movie Nolan's ever made, and I'd still take EoE over it.
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>>124585955
People have written books and books worth of fan interpretations of any semi-popular anime you care to name.

But in the end it's nothing more than fanwank every time.
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>>124585284
She wasn't even the tenth most important character.

>>124586808
I agree with most of your post, but Freud is neither relevant nor of any philosophical note.
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>>124586262
>implying
You haven't been on /a/ long enough
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>>124593642
Please do show us those books
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>>124593696
I like Eva as much as the next guy, but this will never not be retarded. You could unravel the mysteries of fucking Finnegans Wake with fewer reference books than this.
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>>124585955
Evangelion is just a story Anno made up, it doesn't mean anything. That said, Kabbalist jews must hate Evangelion.
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>>124593799
You are just clueless on the cultural impact Eva had in Japan. It was the equivalent of Star Wars to them.

It defined the 2nd generation Otaku and the industry is still in the clutches of NGE.
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>>124584923
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>>124593916
>Evangelion is just a story Anno made up, it doesn't mean anything.
Being made up doesn't mean something is meaningless. That would make every story ever made meaningless.
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>>124586390
Wrong. Schyamalan made better movies than Nolan.

I seriously doubt Yuasa and Nolan said any of those things. But if they did, it just means they are that much more pretentious than Anno is. Anno, despite being an eccentric weirdo, usually is pretty respectful to other creators' works.
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>>124593972
Yeah but for some stories there are intentional meanings like Animal Farm. Or they try to lead the audience to learn something new. I'd argue that Evangelion sorta does that maybe. Also the Kabbalistic influence seems appropriate in Evangelion because Kabbalah is abstract and vague as fuck, even Wikipedia doesn't know what it means.
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>>124594091
I would claim that most stories contain both intentional and unintentional meaning hidden somewhere in their folds, but yeah, some are certainly more direct and specific about it than others.
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>>124593934
None of that makes it any less retarded that there are that many books interpreting it.

>>124594091
>Animal Farm
How's eighth grade going?
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>>124584597
Based Ghost Nia. I miss her.
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>>124594188
>Even of significant cultural importance
>It's retarded that somebody would write a book about it

No Anon you are the retarded
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>>124594188
>How's eighth grade going?
I think he was just pointing out a work with a fairly specific and obvious message.
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>>124594253
Just because something is important doesn't mean there's an infinite amount to say about, you faggot.
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