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What the fuck. What was Shirou seriously planning on doing to

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What the fuck. What was Shirou seriously planning on doing to Gilgamesh? Did he think he could win? How retarded is he, /a/?
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>>124528697
Shirou is going to kill Gilgamesh.
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He has the power of "believe in himself" who needs plans?
He is unstoppable
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Rin explicitly explains how retarded he is in this episode.
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>>124528697
He knows about his own plot armour.
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Emiya Shirou. The worst thing in the entire Type-Moon franchise.
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>>124529402
Rin is actually a saving grace in this show. Without her, Shirou would be dead 10 times over.
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>>124528846
Angra Mainyu kills Gil in UBW.
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>>124528846
At this point he would just die in 5 seconds.
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>>124528697
He knew he couldn't do anything to Gilgamesh but he would rather sacrifice his own life than see someone else die. Like Rin said, his view on life is completely distorted.
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>>124528697
that headturn though
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>>124530013
Did he not realize that Gil would probably kill them both? This is retardation in its highest form.
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Question about the pendant scene, why is she mentioning it? Did Shirou have another pendant in a previous episode, I am forgetting.
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>>124530058
Yeah he was fucking stupid at that moment, but he couldn't help himself. That's a big part of his character, the fact that he needs to try even if there is nothing he can do.
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>>124530090

Shirou is the red man.
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>>124528697
Shirou is suicidal in his desire to help people and he was always suicidal. It's just that only through the grail war actual situations occur in which helping someone will effectively kill him. He's beyond altruistic.
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>>124530157
I know. I just have forgotten if in a previous episode we've seen Shirou having another pendant, which would mean he found the one that was used to heal him and archa handed rin the one he had from the past, due to being shirou.
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>>124529880
Saber kills Gil in fate.
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>irishman
>hero
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>>124529880
Archer kills Gil in UBW.
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>>124530249
Yeah they have subtly shown that there are two pendants numerous times. During the starry night scene when shirou returns Rin's pendant to her he mentions that he still has the one he found at the school and found it odd that she had an identical one.
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>>124530332
He's still talking after that arrow.
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>>124530332
He's still alive after the arrow you tremendous literal faggot
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Lancer is the only good thing about this show at this point

It somehow still baffles me how utterly shit and incoherent the dialogue is in this

How did Type-Moon ever become even remotely successful with this kind of hack writing? Are people just fucking retarded or what?
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Ok so.
wtf happens after the holy grail war is won?
do the servents that did not die end up living?
also whats to prevent all the masters from collborating to not fight each other?
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Reminder not to be deceived by sunk cost VNfag primaries.

They made the decision long ago to gorge themselves on an inferior medium, knowing full well that a superior, high budget, high quality better medium version was in the works.

They traded quality for early access to content. And misery loves company, they will stop at nothing to trick newfriends into making the same mistake they did.

You should do the following, at the bare minimum

1. Watch Fate/Zero
2. Watch UBW (UFOTABLE)
3. Decide to wait out for the end of UBW, or if you really must and cannot contain your autism to win nerdbattles on /a/, you can play the VN
4. Ditto for the last, worst, wormroutes like HF.

There is zero reason to choose an objectively inferior, decade old eroge VN over a far superior, better artstyle, animated, version of it.

Additionally the other fate releases spoil Fate/Zero -- the best standalone release of the entire fate series. It is idioitic to complain about how it ruins a subpar route like HF, when reading HF/FSN spoils Fate/Zero.

Fate/Zero is one of the greatest selling anime of all time for good reason. And /a/ will never stop being butthurt over it.

Additionally, people really overestimate how bad "spoilers" are. It's not like "It's his sled" level spoiler, it's just "ugh, ok that's what they decided to do"

You're supposed to enjoy the journey, not the destination, in Fate. And the (ufotable) anime is a luxurious limo ride on the main road. The VN is a model T that can travel on the side roads as well.

Take the nice trip and then circle back onto the dirt path if you really want to.
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>>124530342
Sankyu.
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>>124530332
nah gil still alive even after Archer headshot him, angra mainyu killed him
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>>124530417
His original market was eroge-playing ultra otaku.

What do you think? Everyone knows nasu's writing is terrible and he's a hack. the only thing he can write are chunni-cool ideas.
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>>124530417
Yeah his writing is pretty shit but his ideas, characters and stories are all pretty cool. That's why he's been so successful.
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>>124530297
potato>britain
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Here we see FSN best girl with Rin in the background
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>>124530360
>>124530406
>arrow
Didn't archer just pickup a random knife off the ground and chuck it at gil's forehead?

Am I remembering something much cooler than what actually happened?
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>>124530439
Glorious mental disability.
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>>124530609
Rubberman>Rin
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It's funny, one week ago every /a/nons were praising him for trying to save someone despite risking his life.
Now that Rin said the "you have a disturbed view"-thing, theses /a/nons are shutting up.
Weird.
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>>124530424
Read

As for the second, grail chooses those who have reasons to fight.
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lancer a best
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>>124530664
>/a/nons
Please leave.
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>>124530424
>wtf
>no capitals
Back to MAL.
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>>124530685
>Archer could easily take on Chiron or Vlad on equal ground
>With these stats
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>SHIROU BAKABAKA I'M GOING TO BLUSH BECAUSE LANCER IS LAUGHING AT US

Shut the fuck up, Jesus Christ. I don't know - when I read UBW a long ass time ago she wasn't nearly as annoying. And now I'm fucking starting to like Sakura more than her. Let me repeat: Rin is so fucking annoying I'm actually starting to enjoy wormslut more.

Heaven's Feel and all of Ilya and Kirei's scenes (the only reason to watch Fate in the first place) can't come soon enough.
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>>124530424
The original plan was to just summon some servants and sacrifice them cooperatively, but only one person could get the prize, so it turned into a battle, your supposed to sacrifice all seven servants to reach the root or whatever, but just six is enough to use the mana to grant a wish. It's not really apparent what happens after the grail war is won but they probably would just disappear due to lacking the mana to stay materialized, we can look at Gil, but he is a special case due to his mud bath.
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>>124530439
this guy gets it
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>>124530724
No one has used /a/sshole for years
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>>124530710
Best Fate team.
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It looks like they're setting up for the sad death of Kuzuki and Caster.
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>>124530762

Yeah, because he's a hero who invalidates the meaning of statistics. He fights Cu on even ground because despite being slower and weaker, he knows how to manipulate the battle in his favor.
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I got a new desktop picture out of this episode. What do you think /a/?
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>>124530664
It's not like we need to spend post after post in praise.
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>>124530417
Because anyone with a brain knows that "writing" has become nothing more than a buzzword and people will enjoy something regardless of whether it's well "written" or not.
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>>124530765
Rin has always been my favorite girl but I also think UBW is her weakest route
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>>124530762
>trace a weapon from a hero with better stats
>get better stats
too easy
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>>124530830
Because as it has been posted in the last thread, Cu was still going easy on him.
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>Thread is slowly devolving into yet another
>ARCHER IS THE STRONGEST SERVANT
>Power levels fuckery

Why?
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lancer is objectively shit and people only like him because of the 4chantrarian meme
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>>124530867

Cu was only trying not to slay him instantly. It would have made no difference even if he was, because Archer was leaving instantly lethal gaps in his defense. The battle would have proceeded identically.
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>>124530831
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>>124530824
I thought it was interesting how they set Kuzuki up as a parallel to Shirou too. The commonality is a bit overdone once you take into account Kotomine as well, but eh.
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>>124530830
>He fights Cu on even ground
Barely managing to defend against "white hits" isn't fighting on even ground.
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>>124530831
Why would a VNeet have skype
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>>124530888
Why would liking Lancer be contrarian? That doesn't make any sense.
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>>124530888
Lancer is pretty popular, the contrarian thing to do would be liking True Assassin.
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>>124530874
This happens every week with the episode. Try in a few days.
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>>124530919

It is when you can continue it forever.
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>>124530874
Why not?
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>>124530919
>Muh archer is the strongest
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>>124530831
Are you the clown from akame?
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>>124530888
But Lancer has always been popular. UBW is his best route, and he's only begun to show how great he is.
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>>124530929
lancer is shit and the only people that like him are contrarians in 4chan, but there's so many contrarians on 4chan that being contrarian is no longer being contrarian and that means that liking saber is now the contrarian thing instead of the most popular

thank you based 4chan for continuing the infinite cycle of postironic psuedoliking things
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>>124530874
Its all pretty pointless, Nasu has stated that Gil is the most powerful and has basically admitted that he could pull any deus ex machina out of GoB and win. Archer has shitty stats and a good Noble Phantasm, but is a really shitty servant and really only a natural counter to Gil (though would lose instantly if Gil used Ea)
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Why do people think archer is good
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>>124530937
Or Lancer could use Runes and/or his NP.
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>>124531007
Yeah, his alignment is clearly stated to be neutral.
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>>124530971
4chan this 4chan that, fix your capitalization first, no one will read your statement.
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>>124530979
Lancer could beat most servants with gay bulge if used instantly as well but he doesn't. So it all descents into fan wank.
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>>124530929
True Assassin was awesome though.
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>>124530971
Nice meme!

Boy, I hope you got promoted to 4chan Gold Poster for that
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>>124530971
>>124530888
>/a/ is 4chan
While it's not entirely wrong, what are you MAL? Tumblr? Newfriend?
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>>124530831
>skype
>botnet
>steam
>nexus mod manager
>avg
>windows 8
Boy you are asking for it
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>>124530971
Are you on drugs
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>mfw Kuzuki can beat Gil in close combat
Just imagine Gil face after first stagger punch
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>>124531012

It's unclear if he has a rune that would help in that situation. As to NP, well, he did use his NP. And in that match Archer lost. But that's irrelevant. The fight before that, which was comparing their statistics, is what is relevant.
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>>124530831
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>>124528697
That's the whole point of his distortion, duh.

UBW is trying to tell us that the average shonen MC behaviour is stupid and suicidal, but even like that, it isn't wrong. And I say that it isn't wrong because that can't be right either.
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So how much better would this series be if it wasn't essentially an otaku powerfantasy about getting a cute gf?
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>>124531084
every single board on 4chan is contrarian as a core principle
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>>124531104
Gil could just take out his anti-Kazuki shield and win
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>>124530831
>>124530946
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>>124528697
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It doesn't matter if whatever he was going to do was unlikely to work, he still wanted to save her
I mean if you saw your parents or waifu about to be run over by a car while you're far away would you just blankly look on?
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>>124531138
Man am I please leave
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>>124528697
>not trying to save a Loli

/a/ is getting more and more cancerous by the day
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>>124530765
God I hope they animate Ilya's scenes for HF, even though they probably won't.
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>>124531138
Get the fuck out of here, glasses bitch.
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>>124528697
He's the guy who took off the shroud in the middle of the night because he was curious even though Kotomine told him it will kill him.
Canonically one of the most stupid MCs in existence.
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>>124531127
I get it now, you're /pol/ or /v/ and probably there not more than 2 years.
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Fuck you Gil.
I want Illya.
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>>124530831
>1919x1079
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>>124531133
>anti-Kazuki shield
Saber dead body?
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>>124531111
>It's unclear if he has a rune that would help in that situation
Fire
>As to NP, well, he did use his NP
The only thing Archer could do against melee Gae Bolg is run away before Cu uses it.
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>>124530888
Like rin fans should talk
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>>124530971
Someone projecting their reality marble there eh..
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>>124530888
Tohsaka's Tohsakas look a bit big there.
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>Archer vs Lancer fight next episode
This better be fucking good.
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>>124531170
Depends on whether or not they'll only make one movie (huge disaster) or more than one (UBW is made obsolete).
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Do we know if there's an episode or not next week because of Golden Week?
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>>124531165
>trying this hard to fit in
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>>124531199
>Fire
Archer has fairly significant magic resistance when wielding Kanshou and Bakuya.
>The only thing Archer could do against melee Gae Bolg is run away before Cu uses it.
Yes, and? We're talking about statistics, man.
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>>124531089
Which one is a botnet?
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>>124531192
Reminder that Sakura eats him and he dies like a bitch.
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>>124531219
Tis but a scratch.
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>>124531224
>HF makes UBW obsolote
What?
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>>124531219
Sella and Leys really should have taught her about that time of the month
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>>124531235
No, you really aren't.
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>>124531244
reminder that servants do not actually die
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>>124531242
All of them, but chrome especially
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>>124530439
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>124528697
>Did he think he could win?

What makes you think he couldn't win? Through out history the little guy always wins some how.
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>>124531138
>manami
Fucking shit. Not even Nao can be blamed for stealing Haru, but manami is just entirely shit. manami is selfish and fall fighting because she needs damage control or she'll go mad, while Shirou is a good guy. Learn the difference.
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>>124530888
Lancer and Ilya are the only good characters in the entire VN.
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>>124531261
>>124531287
>look how much of a lolicon i am, i fit in now right guys? finally i belong!

why are you even in a UBW thread, do you enjoy suffering?
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>>124531275
Holy.
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>>124531271
The dead can't really die again
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>>124531240
>Archer has fairly significant magic resistance when wielding Kanshou and Bakuya.
He'd have to deflect the fire with the swords which would open his defense.
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>>124531256
The only reason to watch Fate is Ilya's scenes and Kotomine's scenes. HF has the juiciest ones, and the best girl doesn't get her fucking heart ripped out in them. Kotomine gets some backstory that makes him into a bit deeper character than just some evil asshole. Everyone else is irrelevant.
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>>124531278
>Through out history the little guy always wins
Haha no.

Gil is a king, and historically, peasants rebelling against kings almost always ends with dead peasants.
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>>124531271
Then he can spend all eternity thinking about the time he got eaten by some worms and had the dumbest death.
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>>124531275
This

If all else fails, you can always trust Google
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>>124530888
Lancer is objectively great though.
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>>124530439
Is this the new pasta?
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>>124531276
The anime is literally an order of magnitude better than the VN
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>>124531310
>The only reason to watch Fate is Ilya's scenes and Kotomine's scenes
That's objectively wrong.
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>>124531297
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>>124531339
Drink bleach.
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>>124530765
Calm down /a/non, you're giving us Ilyafags a bad name.
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>>124530830
>He fights Cu on even ground
Actually no, but I beleave he can beat Lancer in fair fight
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>>124531310
>The only reason to watch Fate is Ilya's scenes and Kotomine's scenes.
Best taste.
Though I didn't care for Kotomine as much as most people.
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>>124528697
Humans can't fight servants
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>>124531191
list of contrarian 4chan boards:

>/a/
>/b/
>/mu/
>/sp/
>/tv/
>/v/
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>>124531311
In fact, anyone rebelling against anyone
or going to war for that matter
it still always ends with dead peasants
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>>124531335
It's months old.
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>>124531335
>new
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>>124531309

That's.. unclear. The weapons text implies they just work as charms, so long as he's holding them both, he gets a boost to defenses.
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>>124531275
The Internet is a centralized botnet anyway, you ignorant fuck. Everyone's actions are detectable but millions are surfing at the same time and not everyone can be caught because there is not enough people to do the catching.
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>>124531355
The reason to watch Fate is to save Saber though
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>>124531297
Everyone who spouts this retarded "do I fit in yet" shit and thinks it's a clever jab or something pretty much confirms they are not from here, just like the "not your secret club" -fags.
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>>124531360
Stick a knife through your penis and twist it.
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>>124531339
So wrong it hurts. The anime can't portray the scenes as emotionally and detailed as the VN.
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>>124531310
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>>124530831
On one note: go fuck yourself, on the other what game are you making in RPG Maker?
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>>124531310
Okay but what if I disagree with you
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>>124531377
I'm actualy pretty sure /pol/ is contrarian
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>>124530777
No, Gil has a reason for being able to stay for 10 years. Even being an archer, he still uses Kirei's super happy orphan farm to maintain mana.
In two routes they keep two servants alive by having 2 people constantly give mana to them, there's no idea how long that will last though since F/HA is weird with rules.
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>>124531410
HF must be suffering for a Saberfag.
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>>124531405
It's just le epik /g/ meme, calm down.
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>>124530831
I realy want to punch you in the face right now.
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>>124531311
>>124531386

Yeah, because the United States still belongs to England.
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>illyafags
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>>124530058
Congratulations, you can read. Realising that was the whole point of this scene.
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>"literally"
>"objectively"
>SHIROU CAN BEAT UP GILGAMESH CAN BEAT UP MEDUSA CAN BEAT UP LANCER CAN BEAT UP JESUS
>autism and cuck memes galore
>fedorafags everywhere

We should put a block on new IPs from posting here while a secondary-dense animu is airing.
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>>124531403
Doesn't he have to deflect Caster's beams with them?
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>>124531433
You can't disagree.
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>>124531339
>look mom im posted it again
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>>124531483

I'm pretty sure he was just dodging like crazy in that fight.
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>>124531393
>>124531397
I don't remember this pasta in season 1. I guess my absence on /a/ my fault. Sorry I guess.
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>>124531412
>>124531421
>>124531359
>>124531360
>exerting this much effort to conform as much as possible
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>>124531447
It is ;_;
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>>124531377
List of meta-modern post-ironic ironic contrarian boards

>/3/
>/a/
>/c/
>/k/
>/mlp/
>/r/
>/tv/
>/y/
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>>124531421
But that's just a bunch of text anon! Surely you jest!
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Archer is shit and would lose to everyone if they were serious.

Archer vs Gil: Gil stomps since he'll use Ea when serious.
Archer vs Berserker: Berserker stomps.
Archer vs Saber (Rin): Saber stomps.
Archer vs Lancer: Same as their rematch, except this time Lancer doesn't let him live.
Archer vs Rider: Bellerophon or Cybele, gg
Archer vs Assassin: Archer can literally only win from a range, which isn't impressive since Assasssin is the shittiest Servant in the war. Close quarters Archer is stomped.
Archer vs True Assassin: Delusional Heartbeat, gg.
Archer vs Caster: HA light show.

Even in Zero he'd be wrecked.

Archer vs Lancelot: Lancelot has a new collection of cool weapons
Archer vs Rider: IH overrides UBW, gg
Archer vs Gilles: Have fun trying to beat the horror Archer
Archer vs Deermud: Goodbye to your shit projections friend
Archer vs Hundred Assassin: rekt before he can use UBW
Archer vs Hero Kirei: Archer is impaled and demolished
Archer vs Kiritsugu: Origin bullet gg

Archer is one of the worst Servants in the entire series. Stop pretending he is good since he is fucking terrible just like your face.
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>>124530971
What? I like Lancer and I don't like him ironically. I admire his honor and how he doesn't go down without a fight. I also hate niggers and jewish gaming companies and I'm not /pol/ or /v/.
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>>124530664
It's almost like everyone is a secondary or something. No way that's true though, right?
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>>124531421
>>124531522
>nasu is a good writer
- primaries
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>>124531466
Here's your reply.
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>>124531478
It's just UBWfags.
HFfags aren't nearly as bad, honestly.
Nobody even cares about secondaries outside of Fate threads.
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>>124531535
Lancelot cannot use Archer's weapons, they'd break when he grabbed them
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>>124531464
>the few wealthy and powerful trick their simpleton countrymen into waging an unjust war
>small guy won
Jesus Christ
I bet you think the Civil War wasn't an illegal war of northern aggression too
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>>124531564
>HFfags aren't nearly as bad, honestly.
What are you smoking?
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>>124531547
I read the original Japanese, and his prose is much better.
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>>124531597
So what's your opinion on the french revolution
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>>124531564
What is JoJo thread? People who don't read the manga don't have a place for statement there, and they do it better than us.
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>>124531606
>Is loyal to his waifu and is a virgin by choice
This chart never gets old.
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>>124531620
99% of primaries are EOPrimaries
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>>124531606
I can't believe this turned out to be right.
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>>124531620
It's better but it's far from good.
Way too much repetition and he's bad at telling a story in general.
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>>124531535

Gilgamesh never gets serious, Archer can kill Saber at range, Assassin can be pulled into Unlimited Blade Works and destroyed, True Assassin would never be allowed to use his NP, Caster dies if she's not in her Temple, Lancelot couldn't use traced weapons, we don't know how reality marbles interact, Caladbolg II would kill Gilles right through the tentacle lord, hundred faced hassan has no combat capability, Kirei is sub-servant level and Archer knows all his moves, bullets cannot strike servants, I am eating ALL this bait and none of you can stop me.
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>>124531478
but anon, people who play the VN are the fedoras
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>>124531620
Really? I though It's not that good. Maybe since I read it when my japs is not that good. I should reread I guess.
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>>124531606
>/jp/
This needs updating
The jay has been shat on by the crossies for months, dude
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>>124531645
Vive le roi
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>>124531656
>What is JoJo thread?
JoJo is a huge circlejerk, though.
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>>124531645
Frogs ruined it for everybody
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>ultra NEET primaries are actually showing devotion to Nasu who stabbed them in the back for normie jewbucks
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>>124531535
Which is why he throws away this ridiculously cheesy "honor" shtick from cheap tales and fights like a normal man, with brains.
He's a chessmaster, far from the best, but gets the job done.
If every other 'hero' acted and fought normally, he would need to seriously step up his game.
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>>124531661
Every time
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>>124531709
For a good year or so. Especially after moot called it his favourite board.
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>>124531722
Just like TM?
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>>124531564
Don't be stupid.

HFfags are as pompous and self-absorbed as UBWfags are stupid. Meanwhile, Fatefags take their Saberfaggotry up a new level with each passing they.

They're all equally shit.
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>>124531702
>Archer can kill Saber at range,
wow archer you really killed her there
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>typemoonies think they're not typemoonies just because they like HF
naruto
of
/jp/
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I don't like Fate milking, but I think original Fate anime will be better idea than LN or ios game. Just imagine fate threads if F/A was anime, not LN. F/A anime with POV.
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>>124531743
They aren't. Those have probably given up on Fate altogether. What you see here are just people who read the VN.
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>>124531776

He did. Like, innumerable times. Did you even read HA?
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>>124531804
Because she had to protect her Master. Did you read HA?
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>>124531743
I only defend the writing in F/SN. Nasu should just kill himself.
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>>124530762
>how to fuck up another thread
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>not thinking lancer is the best character

you don't even know son
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>>124531820

She couldn't close the distance without a command spell.
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>>124531766
It's probably just because of the anime airing. So you are most likely right.
The only thing I can foresee confidently is the rape/worm thing being blown out of proportion.
So far I haven't seen HFfags spam the bait meme whenever someone has an honest criticism on their route/show.
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>No Lorelei

They'll play it during the "ILYA ILYA ILYA scene in the HF movie right?

right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78EKF80QhGo
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>>124531709
>>124531754
Any board that can't fend off shitters deserves to die
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>>124531535
>Gilfag
>Origin bullet gg
Triggered
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>>124531820
Exploiting a weakness is still a valid win. He made it so she could Esclabiler him and made it so she couldn't run at him.
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>>124531839
She couldn't close the distance in time since Shirou would be killed before she'd reach him. Without Shirou there, that wouldn't be a problem. Again, did you even read HA?
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>>124531845
Hands down my favorite scene in the VN.
With "I'll always be on your side" being the close runner up.
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>>124531845
ICH WEISS NICHT, WAS SOLL ES BEDEUTEN
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>this entire thread
Why is everyone so terrible?
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>>124531845
I hope so. And they better have Shirou voice all of his thought too.

>"SORRY FOR TAKING KIRITSUGU FROM YOU!"
>"SORRY FOR BEING THE CAUSE OF YOUR SUFFERING ALL THIS TIME!"
>"ILLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

Damn.
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>>124531885

It would still be a problem because Saber herself would die. Nasu himself has already said as much. A fight between the two is either "Archer arrows first or Saber Excaliblasts first".
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>>124531743
What did Nasu do?
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>>124531879
So, 4chan needs to die.
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>>124531845
>ILYAILYAILYA
ALALALLAALAIIIE
Iskandar > Illya
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>>124530439
>They traded quality for early access to content

or maybe they traded nothing and chose the only content there was.

maybe not everyone is a huge faggot like you who picked it up last week and decided to go for an anime rather than the source material.

now please stop acting like a 12yo who watched a shounen for the first time and thinks it's the best thing in the world, or a 14yo who watched hellsing, eva or death note.
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Why is Suwabe such a best?
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>>124531909
Welcome to /a/. May I take your coat?
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>>124531924
Sold out to normies for money as fast as possible

Played otakus/NEETs for fools by getting them to fund his series with a cheap cash in eroge
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>>124531909
What's more of a mess: these threads or Sakura's wormhole?
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>>124531928
Yes and we shall all be set free
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>>124531535
Archer is Type-Moon's batman. Of course he would lose a lot of straight-up fights, that's not what makes him good though. Although you are wrong on a few points here (Archer can obviously destroy Caster, for example).
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>>124531909
>i like objectively worst girl AND am a pedophile
well done, i didn't know such a cancer could be formed. it's like lymphoma and brian cancer
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>>124531948
>>>/anywherebuthere/
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>>124531955

His voice is just so smooth. Watching Terrence D'arby after this ep is like so good.
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>>124531951
>Replying seriously to pasta
Why are you doing this?
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>>124531969
Nah, you'll just migrate to a new board.
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>>124531955
>no lancer version
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>>124531911
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Really liked Shirou's "Archer" smile. It was a nice touch.

>>124531845
That and Light and Darkness NEED to be in the HF movie. I'd like Mighty Wind, but it won't really fit.
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>>124531970
>Archer is Type-Moon's batman
I bet you meant this as a compliment too
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>>124531970
>Archer is Type-Moon's batman.
>Archer is a meme servant

Well, that explains everything.
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>>124532003
I also forgot that D'Arby could create a RM-like dimension too. That was neat.
>>
Tohsaka should know lying is a sin.
>>
UBW Good is LITERALLY the PLEBBEST, most NORMALFAG pandering BULLSHIT that Nasu has ever written, and if UFAGGOTable animates it over UBW True it'll show how they're all just a bunch of SaberCUCKS too afraid to not appease their SECONDARY NORMALFAG JOB HAVING fanbase. It shows the COMPLETE decline of Type SHIT into just another moneygrubbing KIKE corporation, and it would be a DISGRACE to TRUE FANS of the novel.

Every TRUE FAN needs to RALLY before the second cour to ensure UFAGGOTable gets their HEADS out of their ASSES and MAKE SURE we get the ending we DESERVE.
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>>124531960
What exactly did he do?
general statements like "sold out to normies for money" tell me nothing. How did he sell himself?
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>>124531955

Kind of funny to think he's going to be Itami in Gate.
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>>124531955
I like this one better.
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>>124532020
>lancer
>good
nice contrarianism
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>>124532020
But there is
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>>124532020
There is a lancer version though (and it's my favourite).
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>>124532024
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>>124532046
She's going to hell anyway.
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>>124532049
heh
>>
lancer : batman
gilgamesh : superman
shirou : kryptonite (literally cannot do anything to anyone except except superman)
kiristugu : punisher
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>>124531955
>I should have taken the Moon's deal instead
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>>124532067
That's SO contrarian
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>>124530439
>>1. Watch Fate/Zero
>2. Watch UBW (UFOTABLE)

I've done this and some more I've only watched for most part,

is it ok to read HF from the VN or should i go trough all the other content as well?
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>>124531786
I'm sure everyone here highly values /jp/ as a board. Truly, what would be of this world without an ever-constant discussion and research as to which 2hu has the most suckable toes?
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>>124532053
no eroge in re-releases
multiple normie animes for $$$
normie movies for $$$$$$$$$
incredibly lazy doesn't even do anything anymore (actually this is good because he's a bad writer)

i think it's fine but if you're a otaku or NEET you should be furious with him
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>>124532077
You know that is kinda contradictionary to what's said in F/SN
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>>124531957
>not offering to take his pantsu
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>>124532068
>>124532069
Lancermind.
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>>124532119
>HGW then
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>>124532136
>i participate in the mediums canonically bound to /jp/ and /vg/ yet shittalk about them
can't get into the big leagues yet?
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>>124532105
Uh.
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>>124532136
you've obviously never been to warosu or posted in a 2010 boof thread
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>>124532034

THIS ILLUSION needs to be in HF or else I'm going to throw a fit
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>>124532131
Don't bother with HF, the VN or the movie. You've ruined it completely by watching Zero already.
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>>124532192
>being this mad
the only good parts of HF are kirei
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It's really getting ridiculous with all these babby's first baits in these threads. They are not well thought-out, they don't work, but they still get spammed enough to make the threads a chore to read. It's like the retards doing this think trolling means you have to just be as obnoxious as you can and then you "win".
>>
Here's the ranking for TMfags.

More or Less Bearable Tier:
>MBfags
>KnKfags
>HAfags

Doesn't Necessarily Make Me Want to Commit First-Degree Murder Tier:
>Akihafags
>EXTRAfags

Shut the Fuck Up Already Tier:
>Arcueidfags
>Cielfags
>Maidfags
>Sionfags
>Fatefags/Saberfags

Irredeemable Shit Tier:
>UBWfags/Archerfags/Rinfags
>HFfags/Sakurafags/Ilyafags
>Zerofags
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>>124532205
and Sakurah
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>>124532140
>no eroge in re-releases
You realize that games in any console (like PS2 and VITA) aren't allowed to have any kind of erotic content, right? +
That's a problem with the videogame industry, not Nasu
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>>124532045
Want to play a game anon?
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>>124532223
>hipsterism: the post
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>>124532140
>no eroge in re-releases
Not entirely correct.

I don't give a shit how he makes money. Why should that make me angry? He never signed any form of contract binding him the the ethereal servitude of "NEET", whatever you think that actually means in this context.
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>>124532119
>both staring directly at each other's swords
gaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>124532227
>worms
>good
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>>124532205
Kirei in HF is also spoiled by Zero. Being pure evil, literally not having a heart, being married before.
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OH BOY I WONDER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
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>>124532105
>he thinks that kryptonite actually works on superman
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>>124532223
>no DDD
>no Mahou
Bad try, secondary, bad try.
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>>124532261
Fuck off
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>>124532223
>Shut the Fuck Up Already Tier:
>Sionfags
Wait a second, they're not a minority?
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>>124532189
Sometimes I feel like Takeuchi doesn't even try with his Sakura illustrations.
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>>124532223
>look how contrarian i am, do i fit out yet?
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>>124532287
>the dark sword
Oh shit, Kanshou is gonna fuck up a nigga.
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>>124532297
I wasn't aware that DDDfags or Mahoyofags existed.
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>>124532254
GUUDO
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>>124532319
he called you out good and now you're butthurt
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>>124532217
>heh, people don't have suave sophisticated and nuanced views on nasu's deeply profound and philosophical worldview and universii like i do

Wouldn't /jp/ be more to your taste?
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>>124532287
Correct me if I'm wrong but the figure are
>Magus
Caster
>Black Pawn
Kuzuki
>White Pawn
Shirou
>White Queen
Rin.

I predict Sakura will be symbolized by a black queen in the movie trailers
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>>124531535
>Bellerophon or Cybele, gg
With cybele he only needs to stand at a distance and for Belleroshit he needs to activate rho aias and rain NP on her sorry ass.
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>>124532341
It's not being contrarian if I'm right. HFfags are assholes, UBWfags are obnoxious retards, and Fatefags are literally incapable of not talking about Saber for even a minute..
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>>124532344
You just don't know japanese, disgusting secondary
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>>124528697
JUST
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>>124532119

Hakuno the cutest.
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>>124532393
fatefags literally factually do not exist on /a/
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>>124532384

Is there even a confirmed range limit on Cybele?
And Bellerophon would most certainly bust down Rho Aias. Pegasus is not a thrown projectile, so it's only the defensive measure of seven fortress walls.
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>>124532393
>Fatefags are literally incapable of not talking about Saber for even a minute..
What do you expect though? Fate is literally all about Saber.
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>>124532348
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>>124532223
>EXTRAfags
Go fuck yourself your chart is shit they always come in an invade it with their shit.
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>>124532438
Rho Aias was able to withstand Alter Saber's Excaliblast, which is several times stronger than Bellerophon
>>
Illyaaaaa
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>>124532419
Actually, Fate is my favourite route, and I can acknowledge my shit taste if you want, but at least I don't go around insulting other routes/waifus.
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>>124532419
Yeah, it's just Takeuchi samefagging, right?
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>>124532205
>forgetting about the best girl
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>>124528697
The problem with Shirou - and FSN - is that he is written in such a way that instead of crazy, he just comes as pretty retarded. Rin and Archer should have been the main characters instead.
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>>124532438
>Is there even a confirmed range limit on Cybele?
Read the VN you are suppose to be in close range for it to be effective.
>>
>>124532501
>>124532504
>pretending to like things
>>
>>124532287
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>>124532511
Too bad she's sakura-blocked
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>>124532514
>written in such a way
When you put it so convincingly, I suppose you're right.
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>>124532511
My waifu not jobbing is gonna be great.
>>
Please stop talking about fanbases
By whining about whose fans are the worse you instantly make yourself worse than all of them
>>
>>124532480
I just get angry when thinking about those 2 or 3 obnoxious Extrafags who just randomly show up to dump their shit and drown out every discussion there was
>>
>>124532223
>Rinfags
They don't exist anymore, all of them are shitposters. Her popularity has sunk after the anime came out.
>>
>>124532486

Fucking what? Excalibur is not "several times stronger than Bellerophon", that's utter bullshit. Aias was obliterated by Excalibur. It only soaked a bit of the effect so that Bellerophon could make up the difference.
4 fortress walls + 90% of Bellerophon = Excalibur's output.
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>>124532419
>literally factually
There's a point where this needs to stop and we've clearly passed it.
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>>124532533
No it really is my favourite. Best ending too
>>
>people still seeing Shirou as a hot head shounen cliche that makes dumb decisions because he's dumb
>not seeing that the entire point of his character is that he's actually a fundamentally warped and broken person because of survivor's guilt and Kiritsugu's legacy who genuinely has no value in his own life and a compulsive need to try and save people to a degree that he's basically an autistic mess
Fuck me I can't even blame it being anime fags, people are just genuinely this bad at the "show not tell" principle.
You're bad at watching things, that's depressing.
>>
>>124532537
>tfw we will never see Vergil raping the HGW and wishing for MORE POWER
>>
>>124532537
Now I'm motivated!
>>
>>124532511
The design is bad and her personality is non-existant outside of HA.
She basicaly just exists as extension for Sakura.
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>>124532576
reread the VN
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>>124532514
F/SN should have been about servant Takeuchi and his otome master, Nasu.
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>>124532623
NEETs dont get motivated
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>>124532537
Motivated.
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>>124532593
>not HF normal
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>>124528697
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>>124532574
And you base that on?
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>>124532419
I like Fate route better. Shirou never gives up being a superhero, succeeds and gets a magical waifu for eternity. The execution might be poorer and the exposition heavier, since it's the first route, but I like the premise and development of the route more than of the other two routes.
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>>124532673
/a/, of course
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>>124532537
I'll get motivated tomorrow.
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>>124532623
>>
>>124532641

No, you reread the VN. Excalibur is only barely able to destroy Bellerophon-boosted Pegasus and Medusa in one go, Pegasus has fucking dragon-class defenses and Bellerophon multiplies it several times over.
You only see that Bellerophon is an A+ rank NP without realizing that it's an A+ rank NP stapled onto a dragon-class lifeform.
>>
>>124532631
>her personality is non-existant outside of HA
Being quiet and untalkative is also a personality.
>>
Okay /a/
Sorry for being secondary
But, who is the winner of this 5th holy grail war?
And what's her/his wish?
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>>124532576
>>124532641
>>124532703
Use a wiki, faggots. It's 2015.
>>
>>124532688
But what do you base that on?
Because honestly there's been tons of new secondary Rinfags.
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>>124532419
I liked it more than UBW.
HF is my personal favorite though.
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>>124532681
Yeah, I will admit that Fate was probably executed objectively the poorest, but I love the concepts and themes the best. Too bad Nasu just couldn't pull it off because he can't get past his confused dick.
>>
Why didn't Gilgamesh just pour a vat of hydra's blood on Berserker? Don't tell me he doesn't have a few tubs full of the stuff in his vault.
>>
>>124532695
I'M MOTIVATED.
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>>124532727
>winner
>wish

yeah, you're a secondary
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>>124532727
Angra Mainyu and "I wish all humans die" just like last war and the war before that
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>>124532747
Those are just shitposters.
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>>124532727
Kirei wins and wishes for Kerry's anus.
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>>124532747
Nothing, I'm not that anon. I don't even agree with him. There are plenty of secondary rinfags, and they're awful. Rinbros used to be cool, but now they just turn to shitflining.
>>
>>124532727
>But, who is the winner of this 5th holy grail war?
Archer if you count who survives last.
>And what's her/his wish?
He didn't have one, he just wanted to kill himself.
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>>124532777
Well Fate has Shirou and UBW Rin "winning".
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>>124532727
>Winning the HGW
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>>124532727
Saber in Fate
Archer in UBW
Rider in HF

None had wishes.
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>>124532842
>saber didn't have a wish
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>>124532809
I never said that they are not awful.
But it realy went downhill after the announcement.
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>>124532872
She was convinced by a japanese ginger to change it.
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>>124532872
What did she wish for at the end of FAte?
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>>124532884
>>124532894
that doesn't mean she didn't have one
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>>124532537
>>124532623
>tfw Lady is voiced by Fate/Zero Saber
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>>124532438
To take down a full Rho Aias will take some time, At that point he can just rain down NPs on her. Rho Aias can stop a full B+ Anti army.
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>>124532877
Yup, I agree entirely, except that they were pretty tolerable before UBW kicked into full swing. In fact, the only group that was actively persecuted against were the sakurafags, and they kind of do it to themselves.
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>>124532823
Shirou's the winner of the Fifth Holy Grail War, at least as far as Fate/hollow ataraxia's concerned.

I dunno what exactly qualifies for "winning" in some of these routes, though. He wins in Fate since he and Saber are the last Master/Servant team standing, are the ones that personally destroy the Holy Grail, but in UBW and HF, he loses both his Servant and his rights as a Master.

If anything, Rin should be the winner of UBW and Sakura should be the winner of HF.
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>>124532903
Which was?
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>>124532921
Ayako voices all Arturias though.
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I don't know why, but I feel like the anime isn't making the scenes as emotive as they should be.
It might be because of the music or maybe reading it makes it better, but the Illya flashback scene and Shirou talking about his reason for doing what he does didn't affect me as much as their VN sersion did.
Or maybe after watching it for the first time it lost its shock value.
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>>124532943
Sakurabros are the best fanbase on /a/.
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>>124532631
Hollow only explained her personality, it was obvious that her caring for Sakura is also a case of projecting onto her, given she does things Sakura doesn't want and without her consent.

Their relationship is complicated.
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>>124532921
Trish is also voiced by Caster's VA
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>>124532961
read the vn
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>>124532923

That's.. no. Archer has to concentrate on keeping Rho Aias up if he wants to defend himself.
And a B+ anti-army that its conceptual weapon triggers against. Pegasus is not a thrown projectile, so it doesn't get the conceptual weapon effect, AND it has to stop a barreling dragon-level beast that has been super-enhanced by magic.
WHILE he is being petrified.
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>>124532903
Well yeah, but I think anon meant wishes that were granted.
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Tfw I'm trying to get the vn on my phone but shit is long as fuck.
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>>124532695
I'M MOTIVATED
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>>124532994
I did, maybe you should.
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>>124530765

They gotta sell BDs somehow anon.

>Shit, people are tuning out and not talking about us anymore.... What do we do?
>Secret Weapon: Tsundere Rin faces go go!
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>>124532975
Well of course.

But she's had 3 dub actors so far because the first one couldn't come back for the UBW movie.
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>>124531535
>Serious Gil
You might as well say Lucky Lancer.(Excluding Karna) Gil's likely to screw around long enough for EMIYA to use UBW. Seeing how effective Shirou was, Gil would lose.
>Heracles
Only after losing about 6 lives. EMIYA did surprisingly well for someone not targeting Ilya.
>Saber(Rin)
I doubt Archer would even fight that
>Cu
Cu'd win if Kotomine didn't use that Command Seal on him
>Medusa
Depends, who's her master?
>Sazaki
Likely so but Sazaki's lack of NPs is a disadvantage.
>Hassan
I doubt that.
>Medea
Depends on circumstances. EMIYA could have killed Caster. In fact, he does in UBW when she wasn't looking.
>Lancelot
I doubt Knight of Honor would work so well on projections. They'd just disappear. Prisma Ilya aside.
>Iskander
That could go the opposite way around too.
>Gilles
Gilles' only chance is that giant tentacle monster & I wonder if Caladbolg 2 can pierce through. It doesn't even need to destroy completely, just get Gilles
>Diarmuid
Yeah, projections might not work so well.
>Other Hassan
Why would Archer need UBW to deal with them? Individually, they're darn weak.
>Kirei
I doubt Kotomine would be able to succeed. EMIYA has Rio Aias & more
>Kiritsugu
I wonder why Kerry never used the Origin Bullet on Servants. I guess it's because they're not the most likely to work. Servants are too fast & strong,
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>2015
>not using wikis
>reading thousands of pages of source material to find one paragraph
how worthless must ones time be?
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>>124532982
Illya's scene didn't do much for me, but I thought this episode was handled pretty well.
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>>124530830
>He fights Cu on even ground
Lancer is said to be able to fight Saber and Archer at the same time indefinitely if all he had to do was survive
No, archer can't fight Cu 1v1 if Cu could go all out
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>>124532995
>AND it has to stop a barreling dragon-level beast that has been super-enhanced by magic.
>WHILE he is being petrified
Relax with the fucking wank there kid. The point is that it will stop it long enough for her to get skewered, and that's if Archer doesn't snipe her before she can use Pegasus.
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>>124533075
Yeah because spending months shitposting on an anime board about how much better you are than other people because you didn't read something is much better
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>>124532223
what about carnival phantasm fags?

it's my favorite thing to come out of nasuverse.
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>>124533052
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>124533148

I can't take Caster seriously becasue of CF.
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>>124533143
Why can't we just admit that both our times are worthless?
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>>124533148
>it's my favorite thing to come out of nasuverse
I love cp but can we stop this meme?
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>>124533143
>projecting this hard
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>>124532223
What about Kireifags?
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>>124533113

I'd give it extremely low odds. Rho Aias isn't "that" strong and shouldn't hold back Pegasus for long at all.
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>>124533174
How can you not take seriously? LOOK HOW EVIL SHE IS!
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>>124533189
Anyone here who says their time isn't worthless is lying to themselves.
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>>124533148
carnival phantasm are the "so random XD *holds up sport*" of fatefags, or worse, the "w-why can't we a-all get along" old-definition-of-hugbox types.

They are beneath contempt.
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Noticed an error, now for the /a/non.
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>>124533208
>I love cp
Calling the FBI.

Carnival phantasm is pretty good man /opnios
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