The moment of final decision; which one of the three girls is;
What the hell does he mean he's alone?
You can tell by looking that Yui has the genuine smile out of those 2. Yukino's smile is just forged and isn't actually a real smile. It's like she's trying to smile but really doesn't want to. As for Iroha you can definitely tell it's fake as fuck and superficial a mile away. That's the type of smile that will cause you misery and suffering. Iroha's smile is full of shit and deceit. A type of girl that will backstab you at any given time.
Yui's smile is pretty much genuine as you can tell she's expressing what she actually feels in a genuine way. Fuck Yui is pretty much a down to earth person who's actually a really nice individual. Seriously who wouldn't want her as a girlfriend? I swear 8man is fuckin losing a lot.
What would be the point, that's already canon.
Unless you mean being cucked right in front of her, like walking into the Service Club and 8Man and Yukinon going at it as she bawls out and masturbates.
genuine - DAYONE
fairy-tale - DAYONE
replica - DAYONE
I want haruno to rape me
If he says he's not sacrificing himself for others, then what is his reason for being the villian or being hated to solve a problem?
I don't know how to change the settings.
Enjoy your dick sore every single day. Also, enjoy kissing a mouth who had dicks and hairy asses. But yeah that's fun.
I pick the only girl who can praise 8man for what he is.
Did Hayato save anime?
At least I thank him for doing an Hikki and trying to give him back a bit of self-esteem.
Yeah, I'm curious about his reasoning too. Hope it'll be further explained.
Am I the only one who thinks that this season is kinda bad written?
The author is forcing shit to happen and makes everyone act like a cunt for no reason at all, Hayato calling Yui and Yukino was the most retarded thing ever
I much prefer his S1 design.
>inb4 b-but he actually looks handsome in the LN!
No he only said this himself.
If he is actually handsome all the girls should be all over his dick ages ago.
Goes a bit above and beyond imo, but even so it's still self-sacrifice as long as he puts his own sake after that of others. Which is why I'd like to hear more about his take on how he sees what he does.
So, how did CR translated this?
That requires him to put their sake above his own, and really he's doing nothing except for putting in some effort, but he doesn't really consider sacrificing anything for it, except for time and effort, which really does not go for a sacrifice.
>Haruno - appreciates how 8man can see through bullshit, gets shit done and isn't afraid to do what's necessary. Frequently praises him for it and makes fun of others for not being more like him.
>Others - "waahh stop hurting yourself I dont like your methods even though I can't come up with anything better every single time waaah"
Haruno doesn't praise him at all, she's laughing at how stupid he is.
At least Yukino cares about making him change as a person instead of staying in his really depressing state of mind.
>that facial expression
>that quick look away and then back at 8man
>mfw no one will ever pull off that expression
>tfw S1 had a better design for 8man but godawful animation
You really think hayama did that out of selfless noble reasons?
He did that to stroke his ego, make himself look good in front of haruno and basically forced his selfish views on 8man. He thinks 8man helps people because he begs them to return the favor and save him in turn.
In the end the girls ran away and didn't even apologize and it made 8man look bad since hayama looks like he's standing up for a friend. Not to mention he basically paraded yui and yukino in front of orimoto. Haruno saw it for what it was, a "flawless" act.
What happened? S1 had some dumb but understandable stuff, but this is just out of nowhere.
They ruined sensei this season. She looks +20 years older compared to S1
Yeah. I don't see it that way, though you might be right. You're talking about how he's forcing his views on 8man, but 8man doesn't seem to mind the girls getting btfo, though he's not appreciative either. Hayato even begged 8man to come, which he never does according to Haruno, to "pay him back" since he felt bad about what he made 8man do before. It's not selfless of his since he probably sees it as repaying his debts, but I do'nt think he thinks 8man does things to get the favor back. He's come to terms with how the guy does things, and tries to help back. And judging his reaction at her analysis of the situation, I doubt he expected her to appreciate what he did.
Commie did it right, she used the same phrase twice, but It's obvious she meant different things and the second was a hidden confession.
The reasons of why people are arguing is because of Yukinofags trying to stir shit up, newfags that don't know commie has around 50 people in staff so not everything they release is shit and LN fags trusting a translation that was already confirmed to be wrong by the translator.
none, friendly reminder that 8man best choice should be Sakisaki:
>Strong independent woman who would give 8man the job he desires
>They have a lot in common (love their siblings, fellow loners, aiming for liberal arts, ahoge,...). 8man has noted that makes it easier for him to act as he want in front of her.
>8man had great interaction with and left good impression on Sakisaki's siblings
>Promised to play with Kei-chan
>They, including their siblings, actually have great dynamic
>8man hates Hayato's gut, while Sksk openly gives absolute no fuck about the dude
>First girl resisted Hayato and protected 8man's smile, two birds with one stone, at the same time.
>Their houses are close to each other, plenty of chances for healing shenanigans
>Ending up with Sakisaki is an effective method to prevent Taishi from pursuing the Komachi's route.
Sakisaki doesn't have to support her siblings forever, they have parent for that, and once Taishi get old enough, it'll be his turn to take care of the younger siblings and let his onee-chan find her own happiness.
I get the feeling Haruno is really a failure in college/adult life and that's why she keeps hanging out with kids of her former high-school, because she's still valued there as "muh alumni".
>As the Service Club fell, each of us in our own way was broken. It was hard to know who was more flawed; me - or everyone else.
Seriously though, I really like the fact that each character in the series has their own strengths and flaws; especially 8man himself who seems to believe that his feelings don't matter, even though he himself knows it hurts to keep solving problems with his trademark self-destructive ways.
As for Hayato, he wears a mask while hiding his own selfish reasons underneath. The question is, which one is real - The one that hides his face, or the one that is his face? It's really hard to tell if Hayato is a genuinely good person standing up for 8man or if he just tried to take out two birds with one stone: "repaying" 8man and attempting to impress Haruno.
Or maybe I'm just dumb.
It doesn't help that afterwards, he denounced 8man's methods, saying it makes him feel like shit. It doesn't really seem like a confidence-booster if that's what he's aiming for.
It was "flawless"
Her entire drama revolves around being forced to be constantly perfect at everything by their nazi parents. If what you're saying is true then her conflict is basically resolved.
Am I dumb for not understanding what's happening? Or is the writting just incoherent at this point?
I didn't get the shit with Yukino and the car in season 1 either,
can someone please spoonfeed me? I've watched the episode multiple times and I simply can't get it.
>theories are memes
See now I understand conspiracy theories are memes, but how did you come to this conclusion when it's blatantly just a theory with no hidden joke or meaning behind it.
Holy hell, you're right.
As much as I hate the word being used here, there are nuances you won't get merely by watching the anime. The anime's story is necessarily much more truncated than the novels'.
Yuki almost ran over yuis dog
Hachiman took the hit.
Hachi didn't say anything when he realized it was yuki who whacked him and yuis developed feelings for hachi.
8man assumed she just felt sorry for his no friends, as in starting school late was the reason she though he had no friends.
Strangely enough 8mans imouto eating the cookies yui left for 8man delayed their meeting.
Think on your sins, Feel.
How could you ruin best girl like that? I've seen cardboard boxes with better designed faces.
It was the perfect opportunity to display his "white knight" skills. It wasn't even necessary, seeing as 8man has gotten over orimoto hence the "I managed to end something that never started" line from him.
You can say that again. Her innocence and youth lost forever.
S1 art has its charm, but I like Feels animation overall.
Feel is better at animation, granted. But they can't design faces for shit. Yui only looks as good as she does because they left her practically unchanged from season 1.
I don't have any problems with Feel's Yui. Their Yukinoshita on the other hand needs some improvement.
Not having any difficulty with college is the reason she has so much free time. Considering she's spend most of her life making Yukino look like a discount version of herself, having her failing her classes and somehow hiding it from everyone would be a strange development.
8man put her on a pedestal and seemingly had high expectations from her. He was proven wrong. He hated himself seeing as he never learned his lesson about expecting things of someone. It's the same with what's happening to yukino, this time it was 8man who broke that image. It's extremely cute in an autistic sort of way.
Ponkan8 went through an art evolution and I wouldn't have mind watching Yahari Zoku with Ponkan8 current light novel designs with FEEL animation.
I can't complain entirely, as I more inclusive to focus on the story then be concerned with the designs.
It doesn't explain why she chooses to spend said free time with high school kids though. She's in freaking college, not having anything better to do with her free time than to come back to her past world is a bit suspicious.
>I don't have any problems with Feel's Yui.
Me neither. I was just indicating that the fact that she looks good in season 2 has got nothing to do with Feel being able to design characters.
Seriously though, how could they fuck up Yukino so badly? I know it's superficial, but I really liked Yukino in season 1 but her new design has seriously damaged what I think of her.
Sensei got screwed over too.
There is no way that's true. Haruno is beautiful, rich, smart, and genki as fuck. Any two of those traits will make you popular, having all 4 means there's literally no way she's not popular.
Only yuri end can save the club and their respective relationships.
“Do you not have very many friends?”
“That’s right and the only person who really ever gives me the time is just Hikigaya-kun you see…”
She purposely pretended to break into tears. Whoaaa, she’s so bothersome.
Still, it was kind of hard to pass it off as just a joke.
Haruno-san was the type who’d be fine even if she was alone. Besides, considering that she was Yukinoshita’s older sister, for her to be isolated would be expected.
She was idolized and because of her excellent outward appearances which also had a completely black side to it, she garnered respect. With that in mind, there were probably a lot of people who approached her with the objective to get along with her. It was true that I’ve seen her hanging out with friends before though.
But I imagined there weren’t very many people she had established an equal relationship with.
Maybe that was why she was always so persistent with her little sister who was nearing the same position.
Take from it what you will.
He wants genuine and real relationships with those close to him, but he also fears the responsabilities and heartbreak that comes from those.
That's why he got pissed when Hayama assumed that 8man was asking for help. 8man acts like he does to create a shield between himself and those close to him, while yearning for meaningful relationships.
He maintains the status quo just like Hayato, while giving Hayato shit for doing the same. That's why he cant even put his ideals into words. He's lying to himself
That basically confirms she's popular as fuck. People respect her and want to be around her, but her status makes an equal relationship difficult. The fact she likely has no desire to be around others heightens that.
I don't see why you would think that.
I for one like the new designs much better.
At first it was to win the bet, since he had no self worth and thought he could take it anyway.
Later on he does it because it's the only way he knows, and because it helps to keep people at a distance from him.
There's no outright confirmation, but if you read that and didn't immediately think it was Haruno from wording and tone alone. Then you might not have a proper understanding of her character.
I recommend giving it another read. For clarities sake the first memorandum is 8man's, and the second is Hayama's. Haruno's is quite distinct from those two.
It's kind of a mixed case though, one of the points/themes of the series is that non equal/genuine/honest relationships are pointless though. Haruno obviously has some personal shortcomings, their exact nature is unclear so far.
Also, for some reason, I think the Y
ukinoshitaHayama has the hots for is her and not her imouto.
Well you're a shitty degenerate who likes all things bland in that case.
Sorry I had to be the one to break it to you.
Why does it even matter who 8man ends up with?
This isn't a harem, and out of all the girls only Yui actually loves him.
I think a lot of people are going into this with the wrong mindset.
Regardless of the actual quality, some people will always say the new things aren't as good as the original.
I'd also like to say I don't have a preference for either designs before someone wants to call me out on my 'objectively wrong' opinion.
but japanese colleges are just places to hang out and meet 'friends'/contacts before the hell of working in japan.
people at her college are probably as fake, ruthless, and intelligent as she is, so it'll be very tiring.
she's just blowing off some steam every now and then.
She's praising him because she's doing the exact same thing. Always playing the villain to help her sister grow. Basically pulling off an Itachi. Both of them needs to change however since that isn't healthy.
8man put Yukino in a pedestal and thought she was far above him in everything.
The fact that she lied brings her down to his level, and even though he gets mad, that allows him to actually start to develop something akin to a friendship with her.
I can't get you guys.
I seriously can't.
Why do you dislike 8man that much?
Haruno and Iroha are the least pleasant to 8man so far, why don't you want him to end up with someone who'll be pleasant to him?
What a phony.
Why can't we have both at the same time? Is that really too much to ask?
What are you gay?
Best grill coming through.
I think that while his design was more true to the LN in S1, his S2 face is much more badass.
Instead of naturally having fish eyes, he looks like he's scowling the entire time.
It made his confrontations with people really cool, because it looks like he's staring daggers into them.
>yukino pissed that she cant do anything right
>yui is desperate to keep the club
>8man fight with his sister
>hayama the snake stir the pot even further
that being said i wish yui win, she is so far the only one who genuinely care 8man, iroha and yukino always have hidden motive behind their action
Being the yukinoshita heiress and the eldest daughter of a member of the japanese national diet, I think haruno had to put up with a bunch of college students kissing up to her and guys trying to get into her pants. It's basically a free meal ticket to securing a job by getting on her good graces.
It will be eventualy. The story is about him getting all of his misconceptions about society and those around deconstructed.
It goes from depedency, trust, the true meaning of friendship, the concepts of right and wrong, and it will probably end with his ideia of what Love is.
I think it was pretty obvious from this episode that Hayama doesn't like either of the Yukinoshitas. He straight up told 8man that they both thought they were in love but never actually were.
>his S2 face is much more badass.
What is this? Reddit?
He doesn't want pleasant. He wants GENUINE. And Haruno has a beautiful pair of very genuine things.
I think that's kind of the entire premise, yes.
>He put Yukino on a pedestal, and then that image broke.
>He thought Hayama was a perfect person, and then that image broke
>He thought Yui was vapid and not serious about their friendship/the club. That image broke.
>He thought he could what he wanted because he was always alone, and now that image is breaking because Yui and Yukinoshita are reminding him that what he does affects them too.
>He created this devilish image in his head about this terrible girl that rejected him in the past, and then he meets her again and finds out that while she is nice to everyone, that's not really such an awful thing, and gets closure on that chapter of his life.
Eventually, he'll have to face his feelings about women/love in general.
Someone out there is finally giving the alpha his due.
This is what it's all about. Pure quality with plausible interaction. We need more stuff like this.
>All those Yuibro united in one thread
Holy shit it must be the first time.
Where were you when Irohafag and Yukinofag were shitting on Yui?
Where were you when Yui need you the most?
>"I will beat Yukino."
It is like she decided to run solely to reaffirm she still has a chance with 8man.
>"I'm in love."
I'm indifferent to Yui yet that scene, that line pulled on the heartstrings. With the fake confession, the date, and Service Club situation she must feel defeated and want 8man to reciprocate her feelings in some way yet she know he'll never will reciprocate them. It is like watching a dog get kicked while it is down and all you can hear is its whimpers.
Bitchass perfect boy can't handle some light malice and scorn.
Not really society, but the people around him.
Think about the words Haruno says to him. How she is basically saying "You think you know everything"
From the get-go, he's been trying to put those around him in definite categories.
He saw Yukino as someone perfect and above him. Until she lied.
He saw Yui as just another one of those "nice girls", until she became serious about the club.
He saw Hayama as perfect, as an ideal man.
And then he found out about how how weak and selfish he can be.
He saw the girl that rejected him as some evil presence that existed only to tempt men. Until he reunited with her years later and realized that he was the one who jumed the gun, and that she was actually an ok person.
It's the same way he tried to draw a parallel between his relationship with his sister, and the one between the Yukinoshita sisters, and failed at it. He THINKS he has all the answers, because he sees patterns, not people.
Do you actually care for this pairing like at all?
90% of /a/ loves Haruno and Hayato. Them getting together doesn't interfere with 8man's other girls, and being rattled up about it to bait makes no sense at all since you can't really be against it.
Hayato turned down every girl that's ask him out because he's loved Haruno since fucking childhood. Don't forget that.
You know we wouldn't need a new thread every 3 hours if we didn't bloat each one with batman references and just arguing over which girl you like more.
There is a lot to talk about in this show each episode besides that.
There's only two girls who truly like him.
Iroha isn't genuine and clearly has other motives (sorry Iroha bros. We'l always have the fanfics).
The only guy who truly has a harem is Hayama.
Someone this perfect can't end up with someone so pathetic. CAN'T.
There's a surprising lack of best girl in the thread.
she probably attends a university like u tokyo or waseda or such.
basically the stanfords and harvards of japan.
i don't think she'll be that special there.
maybe a few suck-ups, but there are many, many other sponsors for such lackeys.
but managing relationships as a family representative with other very privileged people of possibly greater ability and means will likely be tiring.
To be fair to 8man, he was half-correct about haruno's intentions. To desire better things for her sister. It was haruno who got mad since it was much more than that and 8man seemingly simplified it. She did soften up later on since she realized she over-reacted.
You're right about 8man misreading a lot of things since he doesn't take into account the emotions behind every actions. He just works on pure logic, though we know humans are rarely logical. He does get better later on though.
She loves the idea of 8man. A man that would selflessly sacrifice himself for a dog, or someone that doesn't even like him.
That's why despite everything, Yukinoshita manages to be closer to him. She sees the man behind. She understands that he only does those things because he thinks it won't hurt anyone else.
To Yui, 8man sacrificing himself to save people is heroic. To Yukino, it's a pain, because she knows he'll end up hurting himself.
That's why a relationship with Yui would be terrible for him. She enables his recklesness.
She might say that she doesn't want him sacrificing himself, but that's what made her fall for him from the get-go.
Basically, Yui loves the mask, Yukino likes the man behind the mask
I actually think Hayato's too good for Haruno and needs to let go of his obsession.
He stood up for 8man and sees him as his rival. That's giving the guy a huge confidence boost if anything.
Also he's a total bro and has every girl in school lusting over him and he doesn't see himself as any better.
Tries his best to do the right thing in the environment they'll be stuck in for two years.
So many reasons to love the guy. He really is unappreciated, there's a lot of people just like him from my experience.
You mean one sided romantic buildup. It's all on Yui's side; there hasnt been any inkling from 8man's perspective since the series began.
Yukinon/8man are still friends but at least they have moments where you can be like well maybe there's something mutual there.
I really like how he finally decides to drop the "super logical man" act during Vol.10.
Hell, he even gets to finally connect with Yukino as a person. That's kind of why I want to see an arc that deals with Hachiman finally dealing with his love life seriously.
Will he take the easy logical way out, or will he decide to put in the work to work it out.
People afraid to get their hands dirty, only doing so to look like a hero is a shitstain undeserving of best Yukionshita
Nah, she loves him for what he is. She accepts him with his faults, trying to understand him. Do you think she would give up on him after she learnt that he was a low esteem batman faggot? NOPE.
Basically this: >>124529052
When Yui says: Please don't do these things anymore, she means "My beloved superhero, it hurts me when you do all of theses heroic things. Please consider that ok?"
When Yukino gets pissed, shes saying: "You fucking idiot, you are not a hero. Stop trying to deal with things like a fucking masochist."
She attends a national university nearby which is prestigious, though not as prestigious as Todai or kyodai. She wanted to aim for a better school but her mother said otherwise since she needs to be close to their family's jurisdiction. That would make her special in that uni she's attending since I doubt many people can match her reputation and her brains.
I think her image of him would shatter if he told her: "I didn't save your dog because I'm a good misunderstood guy. I did it because back then, the life of your dog to me meant more than mine, because I was fucked up."
Yui is not okay with him destroyin himself. Why do you think she decided to run for the prez selections?
Yui always watched him before gettin familiar with him. It's like you didn't watch any of her scenes.
Of course, but his original intention was to feel good about himself; to do the right thing as he saw it. Not because he actually wanted to stand up for 8man. He didn't even care about what 8man would feel from his action.
Yeah he's basically dropping the whole "what would be the logical thing to do", and is actually trying to get close to her as a normal human being.
I really like how receptive she is. It's like she was waiting for it for a long time. And Yui eavesdropping on them is some great drama fuel.
>He stood up for 8man
He outright said he was trying to fix what he broke when he made 8man do what he did for Hayama's own group. He also wants Yukino to stop chasing after him as much as Haruno does. He just sucks at it and completely conveyed the wrong message.
Hayama waited purposely for Yui and Yukino to show up before saying that shit to the girls. I think he was trying to make a point to both of them by showing that they need to make sacrifices for Hachiman's sake.
Are you kidding me? She's a few lines short of practically screaming 'BOOOOOOOORIIIIING' to his face. She's spending much of her latest appearances lamenting about finding someone who ISN'T like Hayama. I wouldn't be surprised if she forgets his existence by vol 11. Having them get hitched just so they can step aside and endorse MC x main girl OTP yet again is far from thematically sensible.
Yui idealizes him the same way 8man idealized Yukino. She wants to do what he does to rise up to his level. When she was watching him from far away, she saw the martyr that saved her dog, and that's the man she sees.
You are contradict with yourself. It wouldn't hurt her if she thought his actions as heroic. Whybdo you think she calls him as hikky? Why do you think she decided to takebthe burden and become the prez? Because she truly loves and cares for him (as well as yukino)
Where can I read all the light novels/mangas/books/whateverthefuckyouwannacallit's?
If anything that'd just make her fall for him more. Yui's image of 8man is one which is based on self-sacrifice. If his reasoning for doing good things is because he is worth less, that only begs her to prove to him that he is worth something. Even if he thinks he's worthless, that doesn't make his sacrifices any less painful, or the things he protects less valuable.
8man already rejected her in s1 because of this but she still wanted to be close to him. You completely misunderstand Yui I think. She would just say fuck it and stop caring about him when rejected, if she was just idolizing him as a hero. Despite everything she is still caring fir him.
Genuine = Yukino
Replica = Yui
Best = Iroha
No he tries to connect with her on a deeper level than any other girl. In vols 10/10.5, you can clearly see him try to understand Yukino. Whether it be in the form of questioning himself on whether he should ask about her past, pondering what she would like for a gift, her motivations for doing things, or even being surprised at the fact that Yukino hasn't decided on whether to join the workforce or not. A big theme in their relationship is that 8man keeps discovering that the image he had of Yukino was never entirely correct and him trying to understand her. He really doesnt try to connect in such a fashion with Yui at all.
You don't even have to go that far. Just google Yahari and it ends up being the fifth result, right under image results.
Don't insult others because of your own ineptitude, it is really unsightly.
And if you really can't find the DL, check the damn archives. Welcome to /a/.
I'm not saying her feelings for him would change. I'm saying that at the moment, she has no ideia who the real 8man is.
It would take a lot of work besides sad faces and cutesy acts to make him reciprocate to her feelings.
haruno doesn't suffer fools gladly, so she may not have found peers there. it may be especially galling if she has to show deference to seniors in clubs and other social groups that she feels are below her.
and a national university in chiba:
Check kyakka for volumes 5-10. Volume 7 is on baka tsuki. If you're looking for epubs/pdfs, i remember seeing a volume 10 one, but i dont know if anybody has made PDFs for volumes 5-9.
welcome to /a/.
Thing is with Yui; she's simple. So Hikigaya has no need to dig deep since he already knows everything there is to know about her. Dumb, big-breasted aloof girl. All on the cover.
Are you normally this fucking retarded? I feel bad for anyone who has to associate with you.
The link directly below that one has up to volume 10. Please fuck off. You MIGHT have found that on your own if you were not a useless sack of shit. Find the DLs on your own, sperglord.
You're saying that as if yukino didn't have a warped image of him herself. Just like some anons here are saying, yukino got mad because she idolized 8man and put him on a pedestal. She also didn't say anything when she saw 8man antagonizing the planning committee during the school festival and how sagami was treated by them after. She saw someone who wouldn't put up with anyone's bullshit but also goes out of his way to save everyone.
She got mad during that time because it was a mixture of her helplessness, 8man defending superficiality and (shipping goggles on) him confessing to someone in front of her. She didn't realize that it was the only solution 8man can come up with and that he wasn't breaking their shared belief on purpose. She was the one who blew it out of proportion. It would help if she just demanded an explanation.
He actually puts work into trying to understand and get closer to her in a emotional level, something he has nevr done for any other girl, and a complete opposite of what he would do in Volume 5.
He also lets the rumors about Hayama and Yukino dating get to him in a emotional level, getting pissed off and disgusted at the though of them having to get married.
That's why he's good for her. She should learn to accept "BOOOOOOORIIING" niceness, stop trying to play machiavelli-wanabe with high-schoolers and become a decent and caring housewife.
Can you stop using all those trigger words? You're going to bring out the yuifags who think she's still relevant even though they haven't read the ln.
I think it's not exactly like that. She did get mad because 8man betrayed the image she had of him. But the point is, he also betrayed the image he had of himself. I won't spoil anything, but this is a big turning point for him.
Yukino is his anchor. That's why he realized he was lying to himself.
That's kinda a weird way to think about it. Yukino's on the cover of the first volume with 8man, he's undoubtedly been writing with the idea that she's the main girl this whole time (I mean just think about how much more we know about her family than the other girls).
You trigger me more than him. I'm hoping she will pull off a twist similar to the one that Kirino did.
Kuroneko was the most popular too but still lost.
>inb4 kirino was the main girl
Yui is too a main girl.
That being said can I get some link to the contest? After all it's important.
It feels like the anime focuses more on Yui though, especially in the 1st OP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZxtK3kwNxQ
>people getting asspained and assuming the author is playing favorites
So pathetic. He even admits in the 2015 Kono Light Novel Sugoi magazine that people aren't going to like Yukino very much in volume 8.
they all represent different things
yukino is romantic love, obviously a slow underlying current in the series/ln, and the person he'll probably end up with if the author decides to pair him with someone in the end, due to almost everything pointing in that direction
yuigahama is adolescent love, pretty much all of their *flag* moments have been dokidoki events. her character is about being pure and honest, and her love for him is indeed pure and honest.
irohasu is probably the most *genuine* of the group, aside from komachi. she completely drops her facade around 8man and one could argue that they're in a weird way the closest pair (obviously aside from him and komachi)
komachi is effectively his wife, as referenced at many times. their relationship is marriage without the marriage.
really wish komachi (and honestly all of the other girls) would be a bigger part of the story, but it's completely gravitated toward yukinoshita since halfway through s1 and remains so. LNs are probably reaching close to climax+conclusion time. a few iroha novels wouldnt be bad though...
There is as well a degree of guilt within both of them, but particularly Yukino in that they sort of "force" 8man to do these things, and go out of the way to sacrifice himself; and most recently, sacrifice his principles and ideals for the club.
Secondly, though it has been forgotten until recently, the club has a competitive edge to it to with the 8man vs Yukino thing. The one thing Yukino would never accept was that 8man is the type of guy to throw away his principles to"win". With that she'd lose the only person she thought she could really connect with.
I know. I can read between the lines. He wanted to stop yui's confession so that the club can stay together, making him a hypocrite. I was contradicting the concept that yukino is better than yui because he likes the man behind the mask. She doesn't and that's why she silently lashed out at volume 8. She didn't have a problem about him sacrificing himself before, why do it now? What he did with sagami was basically the same. He avoided the problem, saved sagami and got shit at the end. He preserved the superficiality of how sagami was seen by others by protecting her incompetence.
silky smooth thighs
How many times did 8man beat off that night
>She didn't have a problem about him sacrificing himself before, why do it now? What he did with sagami was basically the same.
You may be able to read between the lines but you aren't able to see simple facts. They weren't there when he did shit to sagami, this ordeal is the first time they saw him take a shit on himself first hand. They also didn't understand ebina's true request so they were puzzled by to ends could he be doing that shit for.
Yui likes the man behind the mask as well. She can see through as well. You still misunderstand Yui's conductions. She is pure in her feelings about 8man and she already knows that he is not some idolized hero. Especially the first 3 or 4 eps of s1 was about this problem. And she still wants to be close to him.
the prospect of possible miura doujinshi is dick-watering
honestly, it fucking kills me that literally everything kawasaki is cut out of the show all the time
she's literally the cutest thing in the LNs
My interpretion of her scene and her decision to run in the race was to indirectly prove she can ultimately beat Yukino and win the 8manbowl.
I think this is the only selfish action Yui has taken.
>"I see, that is how Yukino does things."
She wasn't thinking what she would have done, she was thinking what Yukino would have done.
Whereas Yukino and 8man are logical , Yui is emotive. I think she is at point know where she can read the mood of both 8man and Yukino and realize they have and/or at least are compatible and she know 8man feelings for her are one sided. I know Yui get a lot of shit for being dumb and all yet Yui is great at reading people moods compare to 8man and Yukino.
Yui is another main girl you cuck. Of course I can demand better for her. He clearly favorites Yukino and her story. We are already in her route and some side stories doesn't mean anything.
Oh God pls make him change his mind and take us to the Yui route, pls.
She wants to get to know the real him. But she doesn't yet. Especially because 8man is afraid of real relationships and the obligations and responsabilities that come with them.
So at this time, she is indeed in love with a man she doesn't understand all that well.
>That's why despite everything, Yukinoshita manages to be closer to him.
>To Yui, 8man sacrificing himself to save people is heroic.
So you're ignoring just how much effort she puts into trying to befriend 8man even after all the shit she goes through? Are you just gonna dismiss that as Yui being in love with the mask or whatever the fuck it is you're saying?
I think you're still hung up on the idea that Yui just likes 8man because of the dog incident, which is dangerous since you're pretty close to pulling 8man denial levels there. And thinking Yukino 'understands' 8man better is laughable. 8man repeats the point, over and over again, that the three of them have no fucking idea what the other two are like. The entire point of the genuine speech was to get them to open up to each other, because fundamentally they don't know each except superficially. Remember how 8man was angsting about Yukino in s1 because he mistakenly placed Yukino on a pedestal? Thinking that Yukino somehow understands 8man more somehow reeks of arrogance - if anything, 8man's just more interested in Yukino than Yui (which you can argue is his guilt over the entire dog thing), which is why he actively makes more of an effort to befriend Yukino
Her love for him only fucks things up even more. 8man may even know about her feelings, but he looks at her and goes "Why the fuck is she into me? She knows nothing about me."
Spoiler for Vol 10 here:
At the end of Vol.10, this is made obvious when 8man for the first time decides to connect to someone on a deeper more emotional level, and he does it with Yukino. It's a much more natural progression, where two people meet, talk, and eventually get to know each other well enough, instead of blind adulation from day one, like Yui
>obligations and responsabilities that come with them.
He seems fine in those aspects. He doesn't into relationships period because of his nonexistent self esteem. He also doesn't want to open can of worms by choice because he'll eventually do something about it given how kind he is.
Could be but it was kinda obvious that Yukino was gonna take the burden on herself instead of letting the 8 destroying himself further.
Then Yui thought both of them were willing to the the burden and she was just watching them distantly instead of doing something about it.
Sure she talking about beating Yukino was partly being her rival in love unconciously but I think it was also partly because she wanted to show that Yukino was overestimating herself. And also partly that she wanted to protect the club.
So, let me get this straight.
Yui lusts for 8inch and is also in love with whatever the 3 of them do as the Service Club. And basically, the only one thing that is going good for her is her relationship with other members from the Club. She believes it is now her time to 'sacrifice', and hence she decides to run for the council president, in turn being unable to spend anytime as a member of the club?
>I am going to beat Yukino.
Did she subtly imply beating her in the 8manbowl?
Does she think she can change 8man's image of her by finally doing something?
They both saw him jump in front of a speeding car to save a dog. They should at least have an inkling of what he is capable of. Yukino didn't say anything to the committee afterwards to at least make hikigaya save face despite knowing everything. So in the end she did preserve superficiality. I know that after all this drama she did get to know his real self. Both yui and yukino now is actively establishing that genuine relationship. What I was disagreeing to was that yukino sees the man behind the mask and that she liked what she saw. I was saying that she didn't. She saw something broken and pathetic but of course she now learns to accept this side of him as well.
I didn't say anything of the sort though but for argument's sake she, the same as yukinoshita, did have an initial image of him, which 8man broke during volume 3 or 2, I forgot.
Turns out just giving effort doesnt mean squat in real life. I can put in as much effort as I can in trying to learn something but if, at the end of the day, I dont understand it then yeah it's my fault
>instead of blind adulation from day one, like Yui
I think you're dismissing Yui's feelings way too much here. If you look at their interactions from day 1, it's pretty obvious Yui isn't madly in love with him yet. There are feelings, sure, but it isn't the "blind adulation" that you believe it to be.
Even when she joins the club she actively avoids 8man and spends time with Yukino, too.
I'd argue both Yui and Yukino spend the entire 10 volumes getting to know 8man better to arrive at a point where they can safely say they're in love with him - it just so happens that Yui's lost from the start since 8man's into Yukino hard. That's also probably the reason you think he connects deeply to Yukino - he's actively trying to get to know her more than he does, Yui. I think it's unfair to deny that Yui's trying her best, the guy she's into just isn't responding
Hi guys, in a previous thread we were discussing the possibility of Iroha and Komachi meeting in volume 11.
Because I have a bunch of free time today, I spent the last 30 minutes writing up a short fanfic that I'm planning on expanding some more.
You can read it here if you want to:
I don't consider myself the best writer, but I hope I matched the writing style of the LN at the very least. I don't usually write fanfics, but I thought this was a pretty fun idea to work with. I would appreciate any ideas or feedback.
I still can't seem to find a complete playthrough of her route from the vn.
>Yukino didn't say anything to the committee afterwards to at least make hikigaya save face despite knowing everything.
Because she was the one who accepted the request in the first place.
Post from two years ago:
>In your case, Hachiman is imposing his definition of "success" and personal growth to Sagami wherein she accepts the bare-naked truth. Afterwards, with the foundation laid out, it helps Sagami by deciding on what to make of the truth and how to move forward in respect of the truth. Correct?
>Let's switch perspectives now and see things from Sagami who very much believes that public opinion and image is indicative of "personal growth". More or less, she believes that a boost in image is the effect of growth. And this is the terms that Yukino agreed to without proper evaluation. It was an acceptance brought by distress. The club's philosophy was hardly taken into account. At that point, we can say that they're taking the request literally, as Sagami would have framed it. Harm to image therefore denotes preventing "personal growth" (if it can be called that), hence the waste of the club's efforts, mostly Yukino. Main idea is that, growth in Sagami's terms is based on others, not through self-improvement.
>With that said, we can now alter your second point: 2) his words would obviously destroy her and make her nervous, - delivered in full view and criticism of her friends, Hayama and in extension the school body. The "success" is that he helped Sagami dodge a bullet of public criticism, no harm done and she's still chairman. Hence a weird sense of "personal growth" through: making Sagami take that stage as the chairman with the glory, frustration, and regret of being one.
>She saw something broken and pathetic
That was her view of him from day 1 until he started showing his powerlevel
Because we are now in the Yukino route. Leaving this aside him saying she doesn't know anything about him is just his denial of her trying to be close to him. Yui understands that he is not some kind of hero but just a loner and tries to know him better. Yukino beats her to it because thanks to the yukino route we are having right know. Seriously Yui showed much more effort than Yukino to understand him better but still Yukino did it first.
>Still it's obvious that Yui is a better match for him
No, they have zero chemistry and they can't hold a single conversation together. Yui does not really like him, she just has a high school girl's crush and could have had that with almost anyone.
>What I was disagreeing to was that yukino sees the man behind the mask and that she liked what she saw. I was saying that she didn't. She saw something broken and pathetic but of course she now learns to accept this side of him as well.
What are you talking about? Her pedestal was still in effect up to that point. It only breaks down when she finds out that she's able to see and do things that he doesn't during the planning of the christmas event. She wanted him to stop being so considerate anymore because it hurts him, much more than she thinks it hurts herself and thinks of herself as underserving to step over that line for a man who's comparable to her superhuman sister.
She's frustrated, not disgusted.
>tfw you will never have a home date with Iroha
Poor Yui. If 8man had led a different life, he probably would've accepted her confession. But if 8man lad led a different life, he wouldn't be the same 8man she fell for.
Threadly reminder that some people still deny that Iroha is aiming for 8man, part 1.
The perfect, zero self sacrificing solution in v8 alienated her further.
Threadly reminder that some people still deny that Iroha is aiming for 8man, part 2
>Yui loves him for real
I think she thinks she loves him for real. But that isn't real love, it is a crush founded. She only likes him because she stared a hole into him for a good year and a half, she does not love the man.
>tried to confess
Iroha confessed, does that mean she loves Hayama?
Wont say any girl loves the 8inch but they do harbor romantic feelings for him (what they are exactly is still unknown). Sucks for Yui that 8man has always looked towards the direction of Yukino from the very start of the series. If 8man would have lived a normal life, the Yui route would of been better interestingly enough. Yui has to at least be somewhat aware of the situation between 8man and Yukino right? Isn't she the one who can read the mood?
Did Haruno blame Yukino about not having to dirty her owns hands because 8man always takes all the blame, or was it about how Haruno has to deal with most of family bullshit and Yukino is given more freedom.
Or maybe both?
It is generally more specific, though it should be noted that it is usually what 8man thinks they are feeling. 8man isn't really good at understanding people's emotions, so he is usually wrong.
Poorly written imo, the one the other this anon >>124531596
posted is actually pretty decent. It's not smut for one, so that automatically makes it better.
That 8man has changed.
>8man end multimillionaire and REKT bitches everywhere
i need this end. i swear of god than if this end like this i cut all my hair.
fucking Irohafags, mindless drones being used
It's a little known fact, but the girls who wear socks that go up to their calves are usually the best girls in any anime.
>Iroha confessed, does that mean she loves Hayama?
Do you seriously believe in what you are saying?
Also you clearly don't (try to) understand Yui. She is not that simple.
She understands the deal about the 8 and loves him for what he is but friendzoned because the yukino route.
It justifies Yukino eating up her own shit when she accepted that request. In Ebina's request, we see Yui eating up her own shit with tearfilled eyes because she's blind as a bat to her superficial group's needs like Tobe. Yukino is not si involved so she gets on her high horse, trying to damage control and stop the 8maning
>she's blind as a bat to her superficial group's needs like Tobe.
Because Yui doesn't give a fuck about that group. She was more willing to be friends with the ice queen instead of that shit group.
>another Toradora ending
why even live
Makes me wish it was Christmas.
Oh, no. I can't handle that again. Hell, /a/ can't handle that again! Remember last time?
Who /8maninhighschool/ here?
>tfw i help a friend to get a gf and never talk to him again
She'll feast on your soul and throw away an empty shell of you.