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Why is it that modern day anime looks like shit compared to older

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Why is it that modern day anime looks like shit compared to older show from the 90's and 80's.
Even medicore shows like old Detective Conan had better animation than Kekkai sensen or Owari No Seraph.
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>>124253008
animators just dont care/lazy with the technology

name ONE good fight scene with great animation past the year 2000.

hard mode: name one good SHOW with great animation. non ova
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Sakuga doesn't sell.
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>>124253063
>Anime just got lazy

It's always fun to see people who knows NOTHING about anime production, nor how the anime-industry works to day, posts these types of replies.

OP, there is too much anime made today, so the budgets are spread too thin, resulting in overall worse-looking show.
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>>124253063
Kaiba
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>>124253203
except you agreed with me in your post and don't even realize it.

do you honestly think it is HARDER to animate than it was 20/30 years ago?
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>>124253063
yozaqua
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>>124253203
>OP, there is too much anime made today, so the budgets are spread too thin

Budgeting has nothing to do with the amount of shows made, you ignorant retard
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>>124253008
OPs don't count
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>>124253203

>he thinks a single budget is shared among all the animus
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>>124253063
Samurai Champloo? i admit i might be wrong because it's been a long time.
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>>124253063
Norio Matsumoto's Naruto work
Birdy Decode 2's finale
Yoshimichi Kameda's FMA:B work
Yutaka Nakamura's Soul Eater work
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>>124253008
pic related
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>>124253609
>using a dank meme because you have no arguements
nice, now prove me wrong
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>>124253547
alright i'll give you that one actually.
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>>124253063
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/13599/animated-effects-liquid-shinya_ohira-space_dandy
Hard mode achieved. What do I get?
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>>124253952
>all that QUALITY
Nah
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>>124253952
>space dandy
>good animation

hahaha fuck off retard.
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>>124253063

Gundam Build Fighters episode 7, Amazing Zaku was Build Strike Full Package.

Oh, wasnt that hard.
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>>124253976
>>124253984

Please go shitpost somewhere else
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>>124253252
No, I didn't. You blame animators. Are you a fucking retard? What, do you think anime is made 100% by animators?

See here:
>low budget
Low budget, means that there is not a lot of money to take from when you make an anime (I will carefully explain, so that you can understand with your minimal intelligence).
>low budget means that you can't pay animators for many frames
When you don't have "many frames" it means that there are less individual pictures in the animation. This means that there will me more choppy, or long holds in the animation. This is where the "LAZY ANIMATORS" is triggered with people who don't know what they're talking about (like >>124253063 ). They will blame the animators for not having enough money to do as much animation as they'd like.

So, you fucking faggot, I NEVER did any such thing as even begin to agree with you. You said the "animators got lazy with technology". Which is NOT the case, you do obviously not know shit about animation, nor animators in general. The problem lies in the budgets alloted to each anime, as I said in my previous post. It's not because anyone is lazy.

Please educate yourself.
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>>124254041
im not reading that wall of text you are retarded

>complain about animation
>animators should really step it up
>ANIMATORS DONT ANIMATE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT REEEEEEEEEEEE

jesus christ kid what is your problem
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There's still lots of great animation being made these days, the real problem with modern animation is that young animators suck.
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>>124253203
>so the budgets are spread too thin
And much like OP, here's another faggot who thinks he knows shit about the industry.
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>>124253203
>>124254041
>literally watched shittabako and now thinks he knows everything about anime production
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>>124254224

>Bahi JD
>not knowing the basics of movement

You are a dumb retarded ignorant hick
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>>124253008
Because you confusing haremshit for actual anime. Pic related, anime is fine.
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>>124254220
here, let me summarize, since your brain obviously can't handle long texts:
>Not much money
>Animators doesn't get paid
>Cannot make much animation
>show ends up looking mediocre

My problem is fucktards like you, who come from /v/ or reddit or whatever, and speak like they know shit. Stop attacking animators for the industry's faults.
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Will we ever be able to have a good sakuga thread? I miss the text boards.
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>>124254328
I have no idea how people can animate animals without references
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>>124254348

>using Paul "faggot that thinks he's Otaking" Johnson's shitty frames with shit loads of shading and no realistic translation of movements "animation" as an example of good animation

I never thought anyone could be so retarded
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>>124254410
>implying /a/ ever had good sakuga threads
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>>124254410
Fuck off, Bahi.
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>>124254328
Disgusting wobbly shit
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>>124254348
>rotoscoping
>unbelievably stiff camera movement
>literally the only good thing is the throwback shading style and the designs
>not even anime
holy shit remove yourself
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>>124254360
it doesn't cost money to animate, maybe they should stop being so conceited and asking for such large paychecks when it is free to put a pencil to paper. that is just laziness.
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>>124254360
>all anime shares a single budget
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>>124254448
>>124254514

I'm sorry, but Paul "Otagod" Johnson is the greatest artist and animator of our time. He will usher in a new age of animation.
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>>124253063
Archer Ilya vs Saber Alter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHHjyfC9jrs
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>>124254527
Depending on the contract, aniamtors gets paid differently. Freelance animators (Which the industry heavily relies on) usually gets paid Per Sheet (3-4$), while there are other contracts which gives a more steady pay.

It's free to put pencil on paper, but making good cuts with lots of key-frames takes time, which again, is money. It's not lazy. Would you work for nothing?
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>>124254509

T-800 please fuck off
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>>124254628
>Hironori Tanaka

Can't animate characters for shit, he should stick to effects
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>>124254628

The good thing about you retards, if you didn't exist we would have no one to laugh at
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>>124253063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9H1u1zFVNc
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How can you say animators haven't become lazy when there are so many shows with QUALITY frames?

QUALITY is the definition of laziness.
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>>124254735
It's because of the lack of budget, silly. Everyone knows that's the main cause.
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What's the point in animating more if it won't push more blu-rays?
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>>124254224
And the reason young animators suck is because stuff like inbetweens are outsourced to other countries since it's cheaper so they don't get to learn from working with the material of people who know how to animate.
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>>124254735
>QUALITY
Each time someone uses this word, you can immediatly discard their opinion, since they spend more time playing videogames and being casuals, than watching anime.
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>>124254735
QUALITY has been around forever, in essentially every shape and form you see it in now.
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>>124253008
Digital.
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>>124254816
How do paid professionals mess up their photoshop layers like this? Seriously
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Blue Submarine No.6 was what anime deserved to become.
THIS WAS THE FUTURE ANIME WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE!!!
not this terrible nightmare we're living in now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_GxHmiqvkY
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>>124254891
its called being

L A Z Y
A
Z
Y
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>>124254904

But anon-kun, anime nowadays does use ps1 tier cgi
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>>124254891
>photoshop
>70s anime
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>>124253008
Except that type of animation only occurs for like a couple seconds each episode. The rest is QUALITY ridden stills.
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>>124254949
>No shading
>70s
You can't fool me.
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Pic partially related.

I remember watching some hentai from the 80's -90's and I did not expect a top notch animation with gorgeous shaders,first I watched,then I fapped.
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>>124255008
Those are all from the same show. Same episode even.
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It's because of moe
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>>124255008
Are you retarded, or retarded
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>>124255089
>there are people who think this is good animation
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>>124255144
Will they ever learn?
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>>124255089
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>>124255088
Are you? Literally every pre-2000s anime is a masterpiece of animation and shading, pic highly related.
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>>124255045
>When you start crying, because of the plot of the hentai is so touching.
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>>124255144
post yours m8 its so easy to shitpost
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>>124254891
Tight schedules and stressful work conditions.
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>>124255144
You'd probably say Akira has poor animation if it was made past the cel age.
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>>124255197
Absolutely beautiful shading right there, now that's the real deal unlike the disgusting digital crap we get these days.
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>>124255197
The trend now is soft and flat colors. It can't be helped.
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>this thread for the umpteenth
>exact same misinformed posts
Stop shitting up /a/ you faggots.
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>>124255271

You're statement is retarded and it's model of reality doesn't work in any universe except your own fantasy world
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>>124253008
That's wrong though
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>>124253063
Jojo. Done.
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>>124255197
Urusei Yatsura
Rose of Versailles
Lupin
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>>124254940
NO, I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS
a 12 year old 26episode TV series should not look better than currently airing stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSXy1OgouGA

IGPX was everything 2000's anime should have become, top tier animation, amazing sound design, and silky smooth CG that uses advanced camera angles that can't be achieved by regular animation

I am aware "digital colors" and "CG mechs" aren't a substitute, but by god, we should at least be able to achieve this quality, IF NOT BETTER
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>>124253008

Nostalgia retards strike again.

And you posted a scene from the OP on top of that.
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Modern anime needs more shading.
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>>124255348
I don't even know what you're trying to do here anymore to be honest.
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>>124255469
How boring.
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>>124253063

Literal autism.
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>>124255482
>I don't even know

Good to see you finally realized your own ignorance

Fuck off
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>>124255478
I don't really mind little shading. I love Shingo Yamashita's animation, and it's mostly only one shade.
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>>124255468
IGPX fucking sucked, wasn't a good looking series, and the CG Mechs were ugly as sin
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>>124254940
The sad thing is some anime actually do still use ps1 tier cgi
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>>124253063
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>>124253008
Some people prefer the old cel sheets method over the new digital method.
Honestly is not like old anime was better, it's just that everytime these threads are made people post anime with high budgets or movies instead of airing shows.

Akazukin Chacha and Candy Candy are great but the animation is kinda bad and then you have shows like stuff produced by Kyoani that has some tasty animations.

The keyword here is budget when it comes to animation and the aesthetical differences between the two methods are just a matter of preferences.
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>>124255770

Needs more CG and shit animation
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>>124255770
CG-laden crap is supposed to be impressive?
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>>124255723

That was a comedy show.
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>>124254692
>>124254717
Doesn't matter, You asked for a good fight,. Judging just by show and name alone leads to idiocy.
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same shit happened with the simpsons

koreans got more expensive
digital got cheaper
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>>124255712
So do you but we don't complain
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>>124255862
I still hope it gets a S2
I know it wont
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>muh glorious past

I sure love how fags who are probably not even 18 talk about 20 years old shows.

I sure love those glorious 80's when there were 8 TV anime made per season. 6 of them shows for little kids. And then another 15 crappy low budget OVA's with plot that makes average LN look sophisticated.
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>>124255184
Poor Shichika, that fight always makes me sad.
Katanagatari in general is a pretty sad anime.
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>>124256033

Another game is in the making. Another TV series is actually quite likely.
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>>124255974

No, we asked for a fight scene with good animation, just because lolis make your dick hard doesn't make it well animated
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>>124253008
Nice Backgrounds OP.

Did Kubo make it?
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>>124256120

He's right that it looks good. Who the fuck cares about anything else?
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>>124253008
I like how you fags ALWAYS post movies and OVAs
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>>124255431
>Moeshit
>Shoujoshit
>Surrender monkey protag
Why don't you post a real anime, boy?
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>>124253008
"limitation breeds innovation"
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>>124253008
Anime died when SHAFT invented moe and released K-ON! in 2000.
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>>124255818
>>124255820

I'm sorry grandpa but nobody cares if it's CGI or not. All that matters is the final result.
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>>124255291
No, the trend right now is oversaturated and unatural colors with overdone gradients. Soft and flat colors is a thing of the past.
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>>124253008
Yea man no one knows how to program anymore either.

Its that or times have changed and old ass limitations aren't in effect.
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>>124255285
its a renamed screencap from build fighters, good job falling for the bait
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>>124256343

>nobody cares about animation

Except the people in this thread, retard, can't you read?
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Miyazaki was right.
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>>124256510
Right about being a gambling addicted hack?

I can't wait for him to unretire again because he loses all his money.
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>>124256554
No, right about anime and animators being garbage.
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>>124256382

All 2 of you samefagging about glorious 80's? Yeah, okay.

I love how all scenes you fags post are from the same few high budget OVA's and movies. When average anime from 80's or 90's was low budget trash full of stills and reused animation.
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>>124253008
Wasn't him kicking the soccer ball at the end reused stock footage?
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>>124256708

It was.
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The "anime" of today cannot compare to the classics.
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>>124256708
yes
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>>124256599
Miyazaki isn't self aware to make statements like that.

The only things he knows how to say are fuck america and put all the money on red.
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>>124254315
What does that have go do with Shirobako? They only worked on one show at a time and all problems arose as a result of staff incompetence. Budget was never a topic.
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>>124253008
>LE EBIN NOSTALGIA THRAD

>>>/m/
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Nowadays ANIME is SHIT. You guys shld rly watch REAL 80s anime
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>>124256708
Yes, the scene is also from a movie if I recall.
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>>124256835
This.
Only hard gay faggots watch modern anime.
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>>124254224
That show was nothing but irony and self loathing. Sure is great to see a show about animation that barely has any, or scenes that were supposed to be over the top that didn't deliver (Exodus Finale).
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>>124256904
>thanks fujoshit.
every time
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>>124256904

Thanks for reminding me how much my dick loved Hanzou's geta.
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>>124256904
People should start watching REAL well animated animes like Fist of the North Star and REAL manly STRAIGHT animes for STRAIGHT people like Gundam Wing

Look at all this fluid animation ,guys!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UmEch1eRXo
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Thanks to digital tech even mass produced cheap TV shows can have okay action.

In the past they would have reused animation and stills.
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>>124257012
>a show about animation
It wasn't.
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>>124253008
Anime then
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>>124257078
I mean, LOOK at ALL this FLUID well SHADED anime in the 80s.

https://youtu.be/4PIPMunct4c?t=168

pure gold

compared to nowadays GAY-ASS anime like THIS with ABSOLUTELY no FLUIDITY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qv8nd5_V00
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>>124257078
>Dat flawlessly handcrafted cel animation at 1:08
Perfection.
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>>124257215
Anime now
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>>124257240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km45Nus0GJE

BRILLIANT !
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>>124257078
MANTITS
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>>124257240
Top: Actual human beings.
Bottom: Lab Experiment rejects.
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>>124253008
Nigga, you just posted a scene from an OP. There aren't that many good looking Conan scenes like that in the show
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>>124257402
anime became GAY. Look at these ANIMATIONS and how REAL they FEEL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR0NTMVjEcY
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>>124255478
Looks like the budget ended before that golden buy hit the ground.
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>>124256904
Perfect.
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>>124257124
Was rolling girls the biggest wasted potential of the year?
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If you don't believe just how bad modern anime just look at this. It's the same exact scenes, only drawn 20 years apart. Warning: Watching this may ruin modern anime for you forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4guV1ibnLVc
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>>124257520
Indeed, my FRIEND. Anime turned into SHIT. Gotta watch REAL 80s GOLD, not NOWADAYS TRASH with NO animation

https://youtu.be/JmrxT9l6JSU?t=115
^ THIS is badly animated TRASH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trm33vpuqgE
And THIS is the pinnacle of fluid 80s TRUE animation
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>>124258133
Top: high school setting moeshit.
bottom: Sweeping epic.
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>>124258133
>Those glasses
Sasuga modern anime
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>>124254603
oh god what is this shit
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>our Lord and Saviour Anno predicted that moefags would ruin the anime industry
>a decade later
>they actually did
>Nips don't care about animation, it's all about the moeblobs now
>Nips can't into recent technology except for CGI
>Only Ufotable and Madhouse can do decent animation coupled with CGI
>pre-2000's anime used to be filled with action, now it's all about drama/moeshit because animators can't into action scenes
>mfw the future would be just filled with edgy moeblob shit-drama anime with 1 - 3 action scenes per season
>mfw only based Ufotable and Madhouse can save us


I hope we can come up with a technology that would save the anime industry from shit-tier young animators.
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>>124254628
Holy shit, Ilya looks so bad and unnatural in that fight scene.
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I don't mind modern animation as much as the other folks round here, but I certainly miss shit like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaDxBKupnZ8&t=2m50s
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I've watched more than 500 episodes of Detective Conan and I can tell you that isn't true.
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>>124258463
That's one of many masterpieces by /a/'s greatest animator, Otaking.
>Not know the only /a/non with millions of youtube views & an animated tv series
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>>124256343
back to whatever shitboard you call your home
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>>124258596
Godspeed, Madhouse.
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>>124255478
This shading makes everything look cooler.
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>>124258197
>>124257520
None of which matters dick to the animation involved. If you want to cry about settings or art styles that's a different issue entirely.
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>>124253063
Meruem vs Netero
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While older anime has more frames, I feel like animators of today are better at overall scene choreography and movement. Haven't seen that much of the old stuff so might be terribly wrong.
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>>124258989
>older anime has more frames
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>>124255045
never realised ash is a fat fuck.
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>>124258596
Very funny anon, I almost believed you were being serious.

>>124258989
>more frames
Hilarious
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>>124258989
>>124258596
>forgetting SHAFT

SHAFT can actually do decent animation...except they're just wasting their potential.

>tfw Kizu never
>Monogatari S3 when
>Nisekoi gets another season while Monogatari is on the waiting list

Fuck you SHAFT.
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>>124258769
i only know one otaking
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>>124258989
>older anime has more frames
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The only problem with modern animation is its overdependence on poor CG effects. I've seen some good CG, and I'm not talking about that. However, I'm sure everyone has seen the shit I'm talking about, where it would probably be fucking easier to draw it than make a CG effect of it.
Do people really think that shit looks good? Why are people so attracted to CG?
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>>124254527
>maybe they should stop being so conceited and asking for such large paychecks
Don't go there. Animators aren't exactly living it up. If you don't have "lead" in your title you could make less as an animator in a month than you could working a single day at an entry level job in some factory in America. They do it for passion, not for money. They're living off of pennies just so they can do what they love, and anime studio executives abuse them for this, giving them not nearly enough to live off of (most animators have roommates or parents who pay most of their bills because I don't know about you but no way I could live off $100 a month).

So next time you try to call animators greedy or lazy try not talking out of your ass. They're severely underpayed and overworked, doing the best with what they have.
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>>124259100
You watched it without knowing it's based on the true life story of Paul Otaking Johnson?
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>>124259191
I guess the majority just doesn't cares enough to be disturbed by that shit or simply doesn't know enough about animation at all and how good it actially can be.
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>>124259191
MJP?
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Would you establish a union for animators and video game programmers/designers so that they would be more encouraged to work and not just be treated like slaves by the filthy mongrels on top of the business?

If no, why not?
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>>124259538
that sounds good in theory but it's not practical and wouldn't work out
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>>124259277
heres your reply
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>>124259538
You'd see a budget spike in anime.

Though with a lot of the trash we get every season a little pruning might be a good thing. Sure, a few good shows over the last few years might not have been made with that sorta standard (Kill Me Baby comes to mind), but it would mostly be trash that would get canned.
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>>124258922
Why is Madhouse such a GodHouse?
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>>124259781
Fuck off
>>3x3
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>>124259607
Explain.

A union just needs to set set of rules and standards to be met in order to assure that people working in the animation and gaming industry would get the salary that they deserve. Also, it would help improve the quality of anime produced so we would have less /a/utists complaining about animation quality and the fact that the animation and gaming industry would be unionized will mean that there won't be that much stigma associated with it anymore.
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>>124256343
The final result is garbage.
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>>124255712
Pleb.
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>>124255390
JoJo has terrivle animation though.

Artstyle makes up for it, but still.
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>>124256246
Am I the only one who's never thought the 80s example in that pic looked so great? Yes, it's got more detail than the other one (which just looks retarded), but it's ugly as fuck.
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>>124260632
The color shifting is such a simple yet effective thing to add to tension.
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>ITT: Nobody knows a thing about animation
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>>124257215
That's actually gorgeous.
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>>124261119
>Implying
Just look at the animation in these two still images obviously the older one is better
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>>124259191
No, see, this was a landmark of artistic expression.
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>>124261303
Aren't these both Symphogear or is that the joke and I'm just thick?
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>>124261401
the joke your head etc
the latter
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>>124261401
Of course they're not both Symphogear, do you really think a modern anime could have such amazing shading?
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>>124253063
Katanagatari
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>>124261430
>>124261464
Sorry
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>>124253063
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/14945/arifumi_imai-effects-fighting-liquid-shingeki_no_k
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>>124261651
In case you didn't understand, in your image Shirou means he got a hard on. Obviously he knew she was a girl the entire time.
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>>124261464
>amazing shading
>only a single layer of black
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>>124253008
Your pic looks like shit compared to modern anime and 80's anime.
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>>124261773
>Obviously he knew she was a girl the entire time.
He's a 17 year old from a country that's not America who still needed sex explained to him.
It's not that obvious, even with context.
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>>124253008
We only remember good old series, and only the good episodes.
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Digital animation is souless.
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>>124262090
I'm willing to count a lot of that to nostalgia, but what is with that flame?
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>>124253063

Does this count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcSuAhbtIFg
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>>124262090
>New cars are bad because they can go too fast!
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>>124262191
I'm morre triggered with the claws, the wings and the colors, though. I'm not an oldfag going nuts here, since I'm all for new art and vfx but... this is kinda the point they're making right here
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>>124262248
Bad analogy. New cars are ugly and made out of plastic or fiberglass instead of stainless steel and chromium like they used to be. There are still sexy cars, but they're not as sexy as they used to be.
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>>124262191
>>124262248
Seriously? The lines are too thick, the coloring is dead looking, proportions are all odd, pretentious effects for the sake of looking "cool"...
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>>124262364
Whats that have to do with digital?
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>>124262239
fuck i need to watch ping pong again
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>>124262430

The coloring is done with computers, therefore it's going to be uniform and have a 'plastic' lifeless look to it most of the time. That effect in the flames looks like it was added with the help of computers too.
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>>124258120
>Everyone has never seen the sun
>Everyone has the same face even more than the first time
>No eurobeat
I don't care a much more more advanced the lighting and physics are of the car models, Legend is 100% shit.
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>>124262701
Just replace the audio with eurobeat
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>>124258120

Here
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>>124262317
That might be because Charizard itself has evolved over the years.
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Digital animation makes things look extremely samey, and removes too much of the human element that goes into artwork, you know, it just looks too perfect and clean, and that's not interesting. Another thing is the current "in" artstyle that a lot of studios are using that I hate, you know, that sort of light novel-tier style with no shading, the broken line for a mouth and whatnot.

I dunno, it just takes most of my interest away since I mainly like anime for the art, and when all the art looks like the same I just stop caring about it. To top it off, I feel like shows are too busy now, like it's breaking the barrier of being a cartoon and instead looking more like a live action show, only animated. I guess a lot of people like it that way, but I don't think it's very interesting to look at, at least not coupled with the above factors. Some people pull it off very well, but a lot don't, and even the ones that do it well don't really blow me away.

Of course there are exceptions, and there are talented people out there who've put out great stuff in the last decade, but it just feels like you're not missing out on anything if you decide to skip a lot of the shows that fall below a certain threshold.

I'm sure I'm not explaining myself properly when it comes to my problems with current animu, but maybe someone will understand what I'm trying to get at.
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>>124263125
DELETE THIS
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>it just looks too perfect and clean

this
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>>124263493

You can't delete reality
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>>124263300
It's a matter of art style culture, not of budgets. Though "copy the last success to milk it" among executives must have something to do with it.

Whilst I like Shaft, their style is more a refinement of the dominant one than anything that innovative.
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>>124253008
That's the OP though. No shit it looks good.
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>>124263970

It's sad when a studio actually blows a lot of budget on really good animation that is different from all the samey shit we get nowadays and shiteaters talk shit about it because they have absolutely no taste.
Like there are a lot of people that say Ping Pong looks ugly.
Or the Naruto vs Pain fight had some of the best animation in the modern industry, but the average Narutard thought it was shitty animation and said it was ugly because it was an artstyle they weren't used to
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Budget. 99% of anime today is paid for almost literally with peanuts.
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>>124264096
Honestly, I loved Kaiba but found Ping Pong painful on the eyes.
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>>124264096
>It's sad when a studio actually blows a lot of budget on really good animation that is different from all the samey shit we get nowadays and shiteaters talk shit about it because they have absolutely no taste.

The Japs barely care about animation, man. So many of their hardcore fans are just obsessed with all the cute little girls they can buy figures of, and not of the artwork or animation itself. It's just a vehicle to deliver their daily dose of lolicon soma to obsess over until another one appears for them to move on to, in a never ending cycle.
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>>124253063
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>>124261610
Aired originally 1 episode per month.
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>>124253008
Detective Conan is better than 90% of the anime this season
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>>124264877
it also happens to be adapted from a manga thats better than 90% of other manga, whats your point

>>124253008
manga is the superior format, why do people get hung up over anime?

sure, cel produced anime tend to be a bit more visually appealing (as a whole), but when you compare sakuga it isn't inherently "better" than digitally coloured anime

animation hasn't gotten worse either, people compare films and ova with tv shows and expect the same quality the entire time

and don't try and say some shit like "lol look at hokuto no ken" or *insert other long running series* either, 99% of the time those shows were just like digitally produced shows, they were flatly colored without the hyperdetailed shading and then when shit called for it, it got done better, with more inbetweens and shading than normal

people like paul "i cherrypick cels from 80s high budget ovas and compare them to cherrypicked shots from 60+ episode weekly series" johnson can die, for all they act like they know about the industry they don't have any patience or love for it since it hasn't really changed

pic related: a modern triumph of animation
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>>124264877
You're not watching 90% of the anime this season nor are you up to date with Conan.
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>>124264825
What is this from?

>>124256343
>dat webm
Someone's compensating for something.
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>>124265761
>What is this from?
It's Garo.
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>>124254628
Did Illya get her own Emiya theme?
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