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Are fujoshi ruining the anime industry?

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Are fujoshi ruining the anime industry?
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You mean saving.
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>>124020242
>Incidentally enough most of these shows are pretty great
Turns out fujoshis have been saving animes all along.
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>>124020242
No but u are
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>>124020242
They are just moving the industry towards the main audience.
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Someone post the boys should love boys and girls should love girls.
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Makes no difference. Male anime fans are all faggots.
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>>124022706
Guilty.
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>>124022706
But the Japanese faggots like Bara, not this effeminate shit.
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Cute boys >>> cute girls
Neckbeards are just mad their shitty self insert shows aren't exclusively pandering to them anymore
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>>124020242
>Zapp
>Fujoshi pandering

You'd better take that back before he sucks your dick.
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Yamada is balanced by the equally dominant female cast

Arslan is written by the LOGH author so you know it's gonna be full of male "bonding"

Fuck vampires
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>>124020242
are you homophobic or something
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They're throwing lots of money at the anime industry so they're fine on my radar.
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>omnipandering
>omnipandering
>military camaraderie
>bros being bros doing bro things
Wow you sure told us.
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>tfw most of the great shows have some sort of fujobait in them

I don't know how to feel about this, It is time to accept them.
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>>124024901
In the end fujos are like us.

>fujos spend a shitload of time talking about what they fap to
>their version of waifu wars are pairing wars
>they ignore a character's original personality to make them more fappable

Accept the truth for it will set you free.
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>>124024777

Not even male Japanese homos like fujo shit. You're hated by every single on the face of the earth.
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>>124025277
*every single group
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>>124020242
>two guys standing next to each other
>they want to fuck
Why are you such a faggot? Only one of those pics is gay, the other ones are your faggot googles.
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>>124025277
It's because they feel it fetishizes gay men and portrays them incorrectly - some of them are even offended by it.

Another thing waifufags and fujos have in common!
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>>124025277
Because none of the guys in fujoshit popular anime aren't even gay to begin with
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Now that anime is dead what hobbies are you guys focusing on?
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>>124020242
You spelled "running" wrong.
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>>124025277
They do, though.
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>>124026181
No. They are turned off by the effeminacy. Most of them are "manly gays".
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>>124026233
Yes, they do. They're drawing doujins of those series too.
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>>124026271
They're a very tiny minority if that's true. Japanese homos like BARA, not this girly faggot shit.
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>>124020242
Yes and no. Yes because fujoshit is usually absolute shit and thus is lowering the general quality of anime. No because women in Japan are actually stupid enough to buy anime at the extortiante prices charged.

Companies can shit out a fujoshit anime and then with the profits they can fund actual anime.
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>>124026333
It's not a minority. They like every fujo series.
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>>124026474
Bullshit.

Face it, fujo. You don't have any allies. Everyone hates you.
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>>124026333
They have their own name, anon. They're called fudanshi and are pretty indistinguishable from their female counterparts.
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>>124026512
Japanese homos don't care about your shitty taste. Deal with it, faggot.
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>>124020242

Lack of imagination and interest in anything more than making money from producers by pandering to audiences they think are an easy sell is ruining the industry more than any specific audience. Producers have too much power over the animation making process, story, ideas that can be approved, staff choices, cast choices, pretty much you name if it's important and the number one thought on their mind is how can I use this to make money, not will this idea work and produce a quality product or how will this idea conflict with another idea.

So yeah greedy producers with limited priorities that operate something more akin to a snake oil salesmen than a project overseer are ruining the industry.
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>>124026547

So? They're still a tiny minority compared to the fujoshits. Why are you even trying to deny this? Statistics say the readership of yaoi crap is 80%+ female in Japan.
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>>124025032

Man it's really obvious that it is true. People that just buy shit because the characters look hot and talk about how hot a character is and how it arouses them are all equally "land whales" ripe for the poaching and exploitation in the eyes of the industries producers.
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>>124025277
>>124026233
>>124026333
>>124026512
>>124026733
You seem very knowledgeable about the preferences of gay men.
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>>124026871
Yes, and you don't even need to be gay to know about that. All you need to do is a quick Google search. Most Japanese homos prefer bara instead of girly shit. That's a fact.
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>>124027000
Where are you pulling your sources from?
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>>124027000
>researching about what gays like or dislike
Faglord spotted. Don't you have a gay pride parade to attend to, queen of queers?
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>>124027063
Why don't you try Googling it yourself and seeing if you can find it on your own?

>>124027073
Butthurt fujo detected.
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>>124027155
I googled and everyone said the opposite of your claim.
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>>124024639
T-T-Thanks Zapp.
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>>124027199
Here, retard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoi

>Although sometimes conflated with yaoi by Western commentators, gay men's manga or gei comi, also called Men's Love (ML) in Japan and bara in English, caters to a gay male audience rather than a female one and tends to be produced primarily by homosexual and bisexual male artists (such as Gengoroh Tagame) and serialized in gay men's magazines.[47] Bara is an even smaller niche genre in Japan than yaoi manga.[48] Considered a subgenre of seijin (men's erotica) for gay males, bara more closely resembles comics for men (seinen) rather than comics written for female readers (shōjo/josei).[citation needed] Few titles have been licensed or scanlated for English-language markets.
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>>124027446
>English wikipedia
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>>124027446
What exactly does this prove?
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Fujoshi are an insignificant part of the anime industry and will never be in a position to ruin it. You have to face the possibility that you are in fact gay and are looking for gay content.
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>>124025277
Gay men aren't a hivemind.
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>>124027536

That bara is a genre which caters exclusively to GAY MEN. Yaoi and fujo pandering caters to women.
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>>124027655
And how does that lead to gay men doesn't like fujobait?
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>>124027655
Everyone knows that, retard. But you can still enjoy something that doesn't cater to you. Most people do it in fact.
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>>124027631
>insignificant
Look man, I'm not a big fan of a lot of the Fujopandering shows, but Fujo's are actually buying a shit ton of merch for their shows. I wouldn't be surprised if they are buying more than heteroanons.
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>>124027716
Some of them do, but the majority don't. They don't like girly faggotry, they like manly faggotry.
>>124027716
The whole point is that it's mostly women who like this shit, retard, not gay men.
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Post more FujoPandering
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>>124027769
misquoted: >>124027708
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>>124027655
>Yaoi
>Bara

Stop using these words, for the nips everything that is homo is BL. Only stupid underage westerners fujos still use these terms.
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I like otome because it allows me to channel my inner fujoshit
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>>124027769
>Some of them do, but the majority don't.
And where are you pulling this from? Saying that bara magazines target gay men doesn't prove shit. It's like saying girls don't like shonen because they are suppose to like shojo instead, even though the shonen audience has been dominated by the female demographic for a while now.

The only way you can somewhat prove your statement is if you have a source where there are many fudanshi posting their disgust about fujobait.
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>>124027728

and by volume there is less fujoshi to buy things and there always will be.
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>>124027655
I saw a bunch of very happy homos on pixiv drawing fanart of the Haikyuus and the Free faggots.

You don't know shit.
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>>124028055
My whole point this entire time is that the majority of gay men in Japan prefer masculine homosexuality instead of effeminate homosexuality. These "fudanshi" you're talking about are effeminate faggots, they're a minority among the gay men in Japan.
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>>124027782
Thank you based Clamp, you noodle limbs.
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>>124028341
>My whole point this entire time is that the majority of gay men in Japan prefer masculine homosexuality instead of effeminate homosexuality.
You still don't have a source to back this up.
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>>124028341
>These "fudanshi" you're talking about are effeminate faggots,
By your logic, girls who love bara aren't fujoshis
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>>124028222
>Makoto panders to gayfags, husbandofags and fujos at the same time
Truly a work of art.
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>>124021420
>>124021280
>>124020781
>>124020701
>>124024901
>>124025032
>>124026169


>all this /co/mbler raiding
>all this /co/mbler forcing itself over everywhere

as always /co/mblereenas will love to force themselves to "like" shit just so they can feel more trendy in general.
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>>124028522
>effeminate faggotry is aimed mostly at women
>masculine faggotry is aimed almost exclusively to men

I'm sorry you can't into basic logic like this.

Reminder that over EIGHTY PERCENT of the readership of yaoi in Japan is female. It doesn't make sense for the majority of gay men to enjoy something which is clearly not targeted at them.

>>124028653
>girls who love bara aren't fujoshis

Do those even exist?
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>>124028863
>It doesn't make sense for the majority of gay men to enjoy something which is clearly not targeted at them.
You mean like how there are more girls liking shonen than boys?

>Do those even exist?
You do know that most bara drawings are done by girls, right?
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>>124028863
>Reminder that over EIGHTY PERCENT of the readership of yaoi in Japan is female.
You are being asked for a cite on this. And reminder that you're being asked to prove >>124025277
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>>124027655
>Actual gays don't like their boypussy art
Different tastes, different kinds of gay
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>>124020242
for what's worth, aslan pretty much ended up with the archer lady in the original novel.
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>>124020242
They already ruined it 20 years ago with Eva.
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>>124029105
>You mean like how there are more girls liking shonen than boys?

Yaoi is specifically aimed at women. That's not comparable.

>You do know that most bara drawings are done by girls, right?

>>124027446
>caters to a gay male audience rather than a female one and tends to be produced primarily by homosexual and bisexual male artists (such as Gengoroh Tagame) and serialized in gay men's magazines
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>>124025921
>JoJo
>gay
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>>124029466
Shonen is specifically aimed at boys

>>>124027446
>caters to a gay male audience rather than a female one and tends to be produced primarily by homosexual and bisexual male artists (such as Gengoroh Tagame) and serialized in gay men's magazines

What does this have to do with anything? You were asking if girls liking bara exist, and I'm telling you yes, because most of the bara drawings are done by girls.
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>>124029497
>grabbing the bait, two years later.
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>>124029732
Anon, you had to follow up saying that muscled men posing are gay
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>>124020242
I totally agree, traps are way better...
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>>124020242
How is Zapp fujobait? Wasn't he having a foursome with 3 chicks in the last episode?
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>>124029824
>traps
>good
Nope/10
>...
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>>124029661
>Shonen is specifically aimed at boys

Yes, and the fact that some girls like it don't have anything to do with what I'm saying. It's the actual statistics about the demographics that matter. Yaoi is aimed at women and has a predominant female readership.

> because most of the bara drawings are done by girls.

Source?

Anyway, the 80%+ figure is actually from Thailand and yaoi conventions held in the West actually. I wasn't remembering it very well, but I'm going to assume the same applies to Japan too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoi_fandom

>Most yaoi fans are either teenage girls or young women. The female readership in Thailand is estimated at 80%,[6] and the membership of Yaoi-Con, a yaoi convention in San Francisco, is 85% female.

And here's the part which is supposed to settle this argument once and for and all:

>Lunsing suggests that younger Japanese gay men who are offended by gay men's magazines' "pornographic" content may prefer to read yaoi instead.[16] That is not to say that the majority of homosexual men are fans of the genre, as some are put off by the feminine art style or unrealistic depictions of homosexual life and instead seek "Gei comi" (Gay comics), manga written by and for homosexual men,[7] as gei comi is perceived to be more realistic.[17] Lunsing notes that some of the narrative annoyances that homosexual men express about yaoi manga, such as rape, misogyny, and an absence of a Western-style gay identity, are also present in gei comi.[7] Some male manga artists have produced yaoi works, using their successes in yaoi to then go on to publish gei comi.
>majority of homosexual men
>MAJORITY

Can we end this discussion here now please?
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>>124025921
>Yaoi invented in 2013
heh
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>>124029902
>not liking traps
What a faggot
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>>124030104
I like them but they aren't all that.
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No. Just like yuri, yaoi is good in small doses. Not even a fujo but I really enjoyed free! with all it's homolust and gay antics.
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>>124030195
Free is only as gay as you are, anon. Daily reminder there will never be a good full blown yaoi anime, ever. Inb4 Dokyusei
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>>124030195
>Haru's leg between Rin's and brushing against his crotch
Subtle lewd is the best.
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>>124024639
This. When there are 2 or more boys interacting on the show, they call it fujoshit pandering. Too many retards on /a/
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>>124030016
> That is not to say that the majority of homosexual men are fans of the genre
>majority of homosexual men
>MAJORITY

That is not how these kind of sentences works.

What you should be looking at is
> as some are put off by the feminine art style or unrealistic depictions of homosexual life
>some
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>>124027631
Yeah you don't know shit. I don't particularly like fujos but this is just being delusional.
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>>124020781
>animes

Let's play Spot the Newfag
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>>124030305
>full blown yaoi anime

That would be just porn.
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>>124030016
Funny enough, according to statistics almost half of shounen readers are female.
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>>124030305
that kind of reinforces the point even more though. faggots like OP get in a massive hissy fit when there is even subtle amounts of yaoi. I agree though, full blown yaoi anime would be fun
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>>124030439
Sorry. I meant to type "the animes".
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>>124030508
I remember some people from SJ talking about it in an interview once. It was pretty amusing.
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>>124030471
Exactly. For BL Inb4 Dokyusei and porn Inb4 No Thank You. The day will never come.
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>>124030508
Yes, and this why there's so much fujo pandering in a lot of shonen.
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>>124025921
Aldnoah Zero become so gay because of its fans who pairing the MC and Slayne
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>>124030508
It was like 40% I think, maybe a bit more.
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>>124030508
>>124030620
The most recent one I can remember said it was about 45-50%. That's why shounen mags pander to fujos. The moment you introduce that the manga starts selling hardcore, if you follow manga sales you'd notice it very easily.
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>>124020242
They're not ruining the industry any more than fat otaku are.
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>>124025921
>anime will never be straight again
Thanks Kyoani
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>>124030684
So if the reader base is so split why do they call it shounen?
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>>124025921
What's that anime next to Senran Kagura?
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>>124030739
Right of*
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>>124030724
>>124030724
It's the fat otaku's fault for not buying more BDs also
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>>124030737
There is a tendency in the manga media to label anything that might appeal to guys as shounen rather than shoujo. There is this blockage I guess, women are more likely to read a shounen than boys are to read a shoujo even if the story sounds like something that would appeal to them. There are some good articles about this written in japanese.

It's basically for financial gain.
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>>124030866
>the anime starts
>fujo pandering in side material right away
>the polls show the viewers don't care as much about the girls
>male charas all more popular
kek
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>>124030016
>> because most of the bara drawings are done by girls.
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>Source?

Go to pixiv, search series with lots of bara drawings, (ie. Toriko or Jojo) or you can search 薔薇, but no one actually uses this tag. Go through all the picture you deem to be bara, check the artist's gender, find that most of them are female.
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>>124030684
This was also before Haikyuu became popular, and before Assclass even serialized.
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>>124030727
But tamako love story
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>>124030684
They once said that more than 50% of shounen readers are female but they usually go for 45% in those reports.
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>>124030684
Never forget how well Kuroko no Basket sold.
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>>124030737
Because girls will read it regardless of which gender is the target audience, but guys will often to refuse to read anything for women.
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>>124030513
>"the animes".
kek
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>>124031041
There were lesbians in Tamako, it's not completely homo free even if the main romance was straight
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>>124020242
industry was shit long before them
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>>124031477
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>>124025921
You need to add this in Kyoanus' gay anime history, 'I lab you'
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>>124020242
At least they're making them cute now if the top two images are any indication. That alone is a major breakthrough.
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>>124031573
Based muslim I fully support them from now on
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>>124031477
>lesbians
>s
There was only one who got over it at the end.
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>>124031573
/u/shits confirmed for muslims.
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>>124030739
>>124030784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoLnEWUP71s
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>>124031573
>in practical terms
Heh.
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>>124020242
But which will be most successful recipient of the fujo dollar?
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Arslan isn't fujo you fuck
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>>124020242
Whats the first one?
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>>124032848
>has two males interacting
>not fujo
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>>124020242
Bleach Rebirth
Seraph
Arslan Senki?
Kekkai Sensen
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>>124030737
Because girls don't care who the target audience is, just that it's interesting in some way, but some boys will react with "eww, cooties" if they think girls like/read it.
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>>124031547
And least more shows that cater to female are changing it to be not so shitty. Anime needs to diversify more but that is never going to happen anytime soon.
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