What was even her point in the story?

>>123361153
To be the voice of reason that expresses hatred for Martians at every opportunity.

>>123361153
She was supposed to become Inaho's love interest at the end, but then they ran out of time and so it had to be cut.

>>123361153
her point is being vengeful side character 1800% better than MUH HUMERAAY
also she was right all along martians are shit
shame her attempt to kill asshime failed season 2 would be much better

Just finished ep 1 of season 2.

Without spoilers, why is Slaine such a faggot?

>>123361153
What was the point of anyone who's not Inaho/Slaine/Asshime?

>>123361388
>obligatory cuck joke

>>123361388
Because muh childhood friend syndrome.

>>123361388
>cuck joke

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>>123361412
Being cute.

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>>123361153
Obligatory semen demon.

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>>123361550
>Stay away from this slut!

>>123361599
i have the desire to do very very bad things to inko

>>123361612
I'd slap her fat ass.

>>123361532
>>123361550
>>123361599
how did seylum end up being worst girl?

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>>123361664

>>123361673
She was very retarded.
Bullet probably gave her brain problems.

>>123361153
Literally existed solely so Inaho could get Aldnoah from Kissuing Hime during CPR

>>123361673
Being Mikono 2.0

>>123361153
To show everyone how the 1st class martians treat the lower classes and how Asshime is delusional.

>>123361612
i was hoping earth's population would be decimated and the deucalion's crew would be selected for the breeding program. why can't we have a straight doujin for once?

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>>123361153
Appealing to leg enthusiasts.

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>>123361153
to hook up with inko

it was pulled because the world wasn't ready

>>123361153
T&A for the first season, as well as teasing Inko.

>>123361891
>Rayet x Inko is the most popular pairing
Sure didn't see that one coming.

>>123361153
I thought at first she would be a good character show the conflicting prejudices of Martians and Earthlings but then she kind of just got forgot about, all the way to the end.

I hope she marries Inko or something.

>>123361153
A lot of the characters were superfluous to the story. Shit like that happens when the production is a mess and the director is a faggot.

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>>123361153
She was supposed to be the autist love interest for the autist MC, but the producers couldn't put it properly into the story or else they'd feel the wrath of their fujoshi target demographic who despise anything heterosexual, so light teasing is all we got.

Actually the same reason why Hime was killed multiple times and in the end wasn't even won by Slaine nor Inaho, but instead put into a loveless political marriage with some random count who's probably abusive (assuming his father's behaviour can be taken as an indication, it's in his genes). That way, the pretty rich girl that's the object of fujoshi jealousy "got what was coming to her". It satisfied their revenge fantasies, Hime being the insert for the obnoxious Little Miss Perfects in their own lifes.

>>123362322
> light teasing is all we got.
Season 2 didn't have any of that.

>>123361690
Asphyxiation, a bullet through her brain and a coma, she received a lot of brain damage. She is clinically retarded by the end, but nobody can tell.

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>>123362349
Chigau.

>>123362432
What is she not? Sleeping with Inko?

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>>123362469
She's playing the tsundere there, futilely denying that she wants her eggs scrambled by Nao, badly.

>>123362536
Holy shit, eggs x rat fanart exists?

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>>123362549
A little, but it's rare just like any kind of fanart when it comes to Rat.

somebody make a collage of all the end of anime celebration fanart pairing up inko and rayet

>>123362536
I'd like a one-off manga chapter about those two going on a date at a ramen stand, with military office worker Nao there, and Rayet being cute.

>>123361673
She was always worst girl.
>Naive as fuck.
>Gets her own way despite the fact her methods should fall flat on their ass even in fiction.
>MUH PEACE.
>Being an unlikeable bitch who can't into empathy or critical thinking.

>>123361153
Display the right side brain hemisphere to Inaho's left.

>>123362586
You do it.

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>>123362432
>>123362469
>>123362536
Can I get some context on that? I dropped S2 after the first episode pissed me off completely.

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>>123362642
Inaho worked together with Rayet to bust some dude out of military prison (it's a long story), because Rat is the person he trusts most. She's a girl who's game for anything, as long as Inaho asks her to, after all.

But in the end, nothing came off it anyway, since nobody won the eggsbowl, no matter what the various shippers like to claim.

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>>123362586
You realize that's like 5 images, right?

>>123362778
What? seemed like more.

>>123362636
Were those two even aware of each others existence?

Why do you faggots need an excuse of characters?

Don't you yourselves know people that you seldom see or hear? Not everyone has to be interesting or have a love affair.

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>>123362839
I believe most people know that.
Most people here are that.
Thats why they want the excuse in fiction; its a fantasy.

>>123361153
He said it right: >>123362272

Almost everyone didn't matter much, and even those characters that only had one brief scene that even mattered at all to the story still had a lot of appearances before and after.

But not the kind of appearances that give you a slice-of-life get-to-know-a-character feel. It wasn't amusing or entertaining or anything. Really, in almost all instances they were just pointless distractions.

>>123362839
Some rule about efficiency in media. Chekhovs gun maybe?

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>>123362750
What is she denying? That they're the same?

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>>123362862
What's compelling people to come up with those crack pairings?

>>123362839
for boring* characters

>>123362874
Well there are giant fucking mechas next to that bitch, not enough fiction/action for these people?

Obligatory stronk redhead female pilot fanservice.

>>123362381
>clinically retarded by the end
who let her become empress, Vers is fucked

>>123361673
Because of people being utterly butthurt about shipperfaggotry. Why people expect the ruler of an entire planet-based nation to give a fuck about two lowly Terrans is beyond me.

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>>123362908
She was denying to be any different from the martians she despises, while Inaho insisted that she's better than that, so to speak.

>>123362985
Shippers will always ship.
I don't mind it if the characters are entertaining when they act together but honestly you'd be hard-pressed to find good relationships between any of the A/Z cast.

>>123363017
Given that earth is now under much higher evolutionary pressure it stands to reason that it might have better stock genetic material.

Vers might very well suffer from incest too.

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>>123362801
If you're just counting ones where they both show up it's like 8. Explicitly shipping them is like 4.

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>>123362586
>>123362778
don't forget to include the stuff like

>>123362839
> Not everyone has to be interesting or have a love affair.
Do you want to sit down to be told a story about a war and adventure and love and stuff, but then have it derail into the story teller very inefficiently establishing fairly to entirely irrelevant character details of characters that won't even matter in the story anymore, for hours on end?

[It's not a sexy, nice, funny, whatever detail, it's just irrelevant shit like that they walked through a door and greeted someone, that they put on an uniform over their shirt, that they were already standing in the hallway, that they were also battling in a battle where you already know everyone is involved - but without doing anything special...]

I kinda don't.

>>123362579
>Just what is he thinking?
>[something] small...

What is Inaho thinking here?

>>123363089
Does it say that Inko won the Eggs? The artist drew that prematurely because of all the Inko flags in season 2, right?

It kinda amuses me that A/Z didn't even have the guts to commit itself to any pairing in the end, just the way it would never kill any character off as long as it could be avoided somehow. Gotta keep all the possibilities open, because then everybody will be happy, right?

>>123363150
Yeah but you can have interesting character reactions without it being a relationship pairing.
Character establishing moments don't have to be ship-bait.

>implying the anime is finished.
Just wait for Season 3 you faggots. Your mind will be blown away.

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>>123363192
He's musing that she's smaller than Inko, which is actually true.

>>123363257
Inko reminds me of that third-gender person from Sidonia.
No wonder why I automatically assumed best girl.

>>123361201
I was hoping something like that would happen to make her a bit more relevant.

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>>123363216
He drew it after that interview where Aoki said that if anyone were to win Eggs, assuming he survived the headshot, it would be Inko.

>>123363257
>インコ
Man fuck jap handwriting.

>>123363257
If you can choose one and only one, which girl would you choose?

>>123363282
>Nihei introduces third-gender characters
>Both become girls for male pilots
>Neither can ever consummate their love because Tanikaze fucks tentacles and the other one dies in the Second Assault Fleet
What is even the point of a third gender.

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>>123363321
Rat, no need to even agonize about it.

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>>123363316
>>123363257
I thought that was an ん and was so confused.

>>123363342
To create the best girl/boy.
Plus her and Yuuhata confirmed for yuri-extravaganza.

>>123361153
PER
SO
NAA

>>123363369
Yuhata doesn't even feel that way about Izana. She still has hope that Nagate can be turned back to the normal breeding side. Which the Captain proved by fucking him for 3 days. At least, until Nihei changed it to "Many days."

>>123363443
>Yuhata doesn't feel that way.
>Literally grabs Izana's hand when Nagate chooses Tsumugi and says she hasn't been rejected yet whilst Izana assumed they both were because Nagate chose.

>>123361153
To show that "Not all martians are bad, not even the bad ones.".

That, and, to try to kill Asseylum, so Inaho could save her and get Aldnoah powers.

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>>123363321
Inko.

>>123363519
>Assuming girls don't hold the hands of friends
>Assuming Yuhata will just move on to being a lesbian after lusting for dick
>Assuming Izana will remain a girl if Yuhata somehow wins her heart

>>123363321
Inko. Even Hanaero agrees.

>>123363234
Certainly. But everyone should be interesting or have a current relevance to the story in some way...

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>>123363747
>>123363826
You're chubby chasers, aren't you?

>>123363897
>49kg
>chubby
she went from underweight to slightly less underweight.

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>>123361153
To appease MY DICK

>>123364297
>tumblr

>>123364358
>reddit

>>123364413
that's even worse

>>123361673
Peace loving princesses are always the worst girl in mecha anime.

>>123364650
Are they such an often occurance in mecha anime? I can't say I saw many, at least not many that take place in space.

>>123364857
Shakti, Relena Peacecraft, Dianna Soreil, Marina Ismail are all the worst character in their respective Gundam series. No wonder a show that tried to surpass Gundam also had an obnoxious peace loving princess character.

Lacus doesn't count since she's actually evil and orchestrated all events to take over the world.

>>123365104
>Dianna Soreil
>worst
Are you insane?

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>>123365104
Add Mineva Zabi to that list. It's not like I wouldn't fuck her if given the chance, but one shouldn't be deceived by her great looks. The way she betrayed her Zeon heritage made me pretty mad. She should've aimed to bring the Federation down or die trying. No bullshit UNDERSTANDING that's doomed to fail anyway.

>>123365200
Her openly admiting she's a shit ruler does not absolve her of being a shit ruler.

>>123365104
>dianna
you wot m8

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So by the posts in this thread, it looks like I shouldn't continue watching past ep1 of S2, and that I should just delete my A/Z folders from S1 and pretend that all of it has never happened

>>123365727
Yes, there is no payoff to watching it, not even anger, it just ends with fucking nothing.

MUH PTSD
MUH FLASHBACKS
MUH DEAD FRIEND
MUH USELESSNESS
Why was he even a character to begin with

>>123363342

Yeah, it's a conceptual failure on Nihei's part.

>>123366039
And those fuckers had the nerve to cast Kazuya Nakai in his role. He has cut up towers, galleons and mountains(or at least soon he will), he created lightning dragons by shouting and rode motorcycle horce, breakdanced his enemies to death and ate metric tons of mayonaise. And now he had PTSD, what a brilliant addition to his career.

>>123366039
He's like rat, a character that was changed from Uro's preliminary version. The problem is that they didn't know what to do with him because they haven't written the whole thing beforehand.

>>123361388
Holy shit you're actually watching this? And insulting best girl too.

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Best Martian killing duo.

Honestly though, Rayet was probably the one character that had the most chemistry with Inaho. Throughout the series she gains development with Inaho. I liked episode 5 of this season where Inaho goes out of his way to reassure and comfort Rayet that she's different from the other Martians. It was also a little bit neat how that carried over to the next episode where Rayet is the one that was carrying him over to the building and was apparently the only one informed of his plan.

I don't get why they didn't give Inaho a Rayet end. Inko was just teased throughout the series about her crush on Inaho with no actual reciprocation and Asshime just goes and marries a random guy while Rayet got development with Inaho

>>123365104
And yet all of those peace princesses are geniuses compared to Asshime.

>>123361153
That people get fucked over when there's war. No other purpose.

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>>123361201
Citation required. Inaho only ever had one love interest and couldn't have cared less about Rayet.

>>123370253
Landwhale pls go and stay go.

>>123362750
>trusts most

He used her because he has dirt on her. It's not trust, it's blackmail.

>>123363257
That's not hard, Inko's a hambeast.

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>>123370293
You just hate the truth. Get over it, the bitches all lost.

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>>123370293

Who thinks Cruetuo is worst than Joe Jackson or Ike Turner due to him beating Slaine like Ike beats Tina or Joe beats his kids?

Rayet and Inaho should have been one character, so we could have Terran-living-on-Mars and Martian-living-on-Earth as dual MCs.

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>>123370590
Cruhteo a shit. My only hope is that his kid is just as twisted.

>>123370432
Stay delusional, landwhale. Fact is every fucking one lost except for Hime goodie two-shoes. Eggs got cucked, Slaine's rotting away in prison, Marito remains married to alcohol instead of MUH HUMERAY imouto, that gal who can't get a date never got a date, and neither did anyone else, whether bitch or dude doesn't matter.

>>123370655
Well he is one of the reasons why Slaine is lonely right now.

Thinking about it, how is the lie that Slaine was behind the assassination even going to work? Everyone that worked at the moon base knew that Saazbaum was behind it, they blocked Asseylum's transmission and were part of the conspiracy. Are all of them going to have to be locked up in a secret prison for the rest of their lives? What about within the UFE? Those that were at the HQ when it was attacked know and of course there's everyone on the Deucalion. That's a bunch of mouths that need to be kept shut.

Talk about corrupt peace.

>>123370664

Are you the NO HOMOS ALLOWED guy? You only commented on the homo shipping.

>>123361153

They needed an edgy female character to hold the audiences attention from time to time.

>>123366208
Why is this a thing? Why would you draw this for Slaine of all people instead of Eggs? At least Rat actually interacted with the latter. Those two never even met each other.

>>123370924
Slaine x Rayet was a popular ship mid second cour.

>>123370890
I am actually not, but you fuckers are by far the most annoying shipperfags in these threads, therefore no homo guy has all my blessings as long as he annoys you back in retaliation.

Rayet should have been the earth MC. It would have been reverse Slaine with a Martian fighting on Earths side.

>>123370868
The ending itself doesn't work, not just the Slaine cover up. Aoki reduced the post-war IQ below 50 to wrap up the clusterfuck.

>>123370991
>most annoying shipperfags
Well when literally every character is bland as fuck what do you expect?

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>>123364650
Except when they aren't, because while they are peace-loving, they also own fucking overpowered PINK space cruisers.

>>123370868
>Aldnoah
>Making sense

>>123370991
Given the material from the source, fujos are the least delusional.

>>123370968
I just can't wrap my head around those two together.

>>123371039
Stop it, faggot. This is best girl thread, keep that shit out.

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>>123362432

>>123361169
KASEIJIN... MINNA TEKKI

>>123370991
>giving too much shit on anon shipping
NO HOMOS ALLOWED is as entertaining as you. If the homo shipperfags annoy you best, they have my blessings.

>>123361153

Breeding reparations for terrans.

>>123361532
All these sides characters and none of them had any sort of character development whatsoever. They didn't even help develop the main characters. It's like everything in this show was pointless.

>>123371106
I want Inaho to give me a robotic blowjob.

>>123363004
>successor to old fuck with dementia is a braindamaged teenage girl
That's nepotism for you.

>>123361599

Jeeze Inko is like one of those girls that if you marry will make your life miserable when you get older.

>>123371201
Why do you think monarchy is going extinct?

How could anyone forgive her after choking out hime? It took them a whole minute for everyone to feel sorry for her because muh dad dead i hate martians.

None of the characters mattered at all except inhao, slain, and hime to an extent.

>>123363321

Rat without thinking twice.

>>123371266
Because things aren't always black and white.

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>>123371199
Get in line.

>>123371039
I really don't know what he was thinking with that ending, unless he set it up that way purposely to fall apart for a sequel then none of it made sense. With the number of people that knew Slaine didn't do it, keeping it a secret would be impossible.

>>123371098
>I just can't wrap my head around those two together.
Rayet was betrayed by her Versian home, and some were hoping her character development would come in by having her get over her hatred for Martians and team up with Slaine.

>>123371266
She got jailed. If shit didn't the fan so hard at Russia HQ almost right after, she might've stayed there.

>>123371259
Monarchy is going extinct but nepotism is as strong as ever.

>>123371325
>and team up with Slaine.
How?

>>123371325
I shipped her with Asseylum... until Ass became so retarded I didn't want her near any character.

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What was the point in S2?

Lemrina and Harklight brought..............nothing.
Slaine's whole character turned 180 and he went to shit.
Inaho decided to be an even more broken gary stu than the first season.
All the Orbital Knights lost every fight, They never won one at all.

What is the fucking point in Aldnoah Zero?

>>123371192
Everything was pointless. All that talk Slaine and Harklight did about revolutionizing Vers and fixing things turned out to be nothing, it's like they talked up the big story but did absolutely nothing with it. They gave the audience the expectation that things would happen and in the end none of them did, I hope the remaining BDs flop.

Speaking of Harklight, why did we never get a flashback to him and Slaine meeting and deciding to do what they did? He was crazy loyal and we never really knew why other than he respected him.

>>123371325
When I imagine those two meeting, all I can see is a dead Slaine.

No, it might make some artistic sense plot wise, but with their personalities, I just can't see it.

>>123371412
Zero

>>123371336
After the attack she should have been right back in jail, she did try to kill someone.

>>123371318
Fuck you, I'm here first.

>>123371461
It was probably Slaine's fault anyway

>>123371417
it was like if they had in mind a story and they had forgotten to have only 12 episodes available and not 25 or 50.

>>123371476
>Fuck you
That's fine too.

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>>123371417
It's the Troyard charisma.

>>123371412
There was no point, Vers is still a feudal society as well. I could have see them ending it with Asseylum fixing Vers in a different way but she didn't even do that. With any consolation war will probably break out again since not all of the Knights were on board with her.

>>123371542
>charisma
That's not how you spell Saucebum.

>>123371520
Then why even talk it up? Why even have Slaine kill Saazbaum and try to have a revolution if they were never going to let it get off the ground? Should have kept Saazbaum alive so he could be the big bad and keep Slaine as his vassal.

After episode 15 I was expecting a revolution for the Vers people, nothing happened.

>>123371520
They could have put the story in. Just they should have stopped focusing on having a pointless battle every goddamn episode. I never thought I would see the day when I wanted less combat.

>>123371461
She did go all HEROIC and escorted the princess and...

Yeah I got nothing. But the plot has more holes that swiss cheese anyway.

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>Rayet has been attending Shinawara High for years. She's surly but dependable, and Inko and Nina feel responsible for her and take care of her.
>She and her dad have been part of a terrorist cell for years, though.
>Trillram kills her dad in front of her.
>She jumps in a damaged Kat and goes ballistic on him; ends up having to get rescued in the same way as Yuki-nee.
>Wants to kill all Martians.
>After Asseylum reveals herself, is conflicted, eventually tries to kill Asseylum and has to reveal that she was a double agent to all her friends.
>When Asseylum forgives her and promises to make life better for ordinary people on Vers, Rayet becomes her loyal and loving lesbian knight.

Then at least A/Z would surpass Cross Ange.

>>123361388
>insulting best girl

FUCK OFF. This is a Hime bashing zone.

>>123371417
>Speaking of Harklight, why did we never get a flashback to him and Slaine meeting and deciding to do what they did?

I hope he helped Saazbaum treat Slaine's wounds after Saazbaum rescued him from Cruhteo's.

Maybe there'll be a manga about it.

>>123371640
Saucebum couldn't turn Versians into Terranfags, though. Slaine achieved that.

>>123371641
I do not know, in fact I can not understand.

Their script always seemed invented on the spot week after week (only improvisation can explain the addition of Crutheo Jr at three episodes left without any foreshadow). We are at the levels of Morosawa for bullshits and disorganization.

>>123371705
They probably thought it would take too much effort to write a proper story, should have never bothered with the revolution talk in the first place if they weren't going to go anywhere with it.

>>123371825
>We are at the levels of Morosawa for bullshits and disorganization.

Destiny had a more coherent ending than Aldnoah.

>>123371386
Slaine would woo her with his charisma? This was before we had seen the full force of the shit writing so anything could have really happened which is the biggest disappointment of the show. The whole time we all expected some shitty ending but a BIG shitty ending, this wasn't even a train wreck because in the end we got LITERALLY nothing.

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>>123369446
Because Yuki-nee.

>>123371705
Not enough. Not with AZ's general pace if they want to seriously cover topics like interplanetary racism, corrupt monarchy, and the like. Most 2cour mecha have been shit story wise. A serious war story simply requires more episodes.

>>123371412
No Urobutcher in charge anymore so it went in the nonsensical direction Aoki pushed it.

I'd really like to know what Urobuchi had originally wrote, would have been more coherent than what we got.

Pic related is the biggest waste of screentime in the entire series. So glad they made him and HUUUUMERAAAAY completely irrelevant in season2.

>>123371881
They probably could have done it if they hadn't wasted so much time in cour 1 as well and trimmed down the cast.

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>>123371976
Forgot pic

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Seems that most of the after series art is Inaho healing Slaine, it's like Asseylum doesn't exist anymore.

>>123371805
Anon, please. If not for Sauce doing all the propaganda legwork for years, Slaine wouldn't even have an army to take over.

Also, giving blessings for orbital knights to tag random pieces of land as earthspace isn't exactly turning them into earthfags.

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>>123370868
They were aiming for something like pic related, Slaine talking all blame to be a martyr of peace which was hinted hew as trying to do in the end so Ass wouldn't have opposition and trying to kill himself, Ass and Inaho bail him out at least saving him (as if Suzaku and Nunners conspired against Lelouch's Requiem) but letting him take the blame. He starts a new life.

But it was so badly executed and a mess that came out absolutely terrible and made everything shitty.

>>123371976
What was the point of him? I swear he had more screen time than Inaho outside of mecha fights.

Does anyone else think Count Books should've stayed with the Deucalion so we could finally get some interaction between the Terrans and Martians? Rayet doesn't count because she's against her own people. There were so many moments where they could've developed the characters but they somehow managed to waste it on nothing.

>>123371881
I honestly think they could have if they cut out those fight scenes. We had so many pointless fights against irrelevant characters. For what purpose? Ice guy fight, invisible mech fight, all unnecessary.

>>123372069
It really doesn't work since so many know it's a lie, with minimal digging anyone of the Knights on Vers side can figure out it's a lie. With Knights not siding with her already Asseylum has set herself up for it to all fall apart and eventual civil war.

>>123371977
G-reco gave it a good try, but you can still see how it messes with the general pacing. Nope, 3cours minimum, I'm convinced. Otherwise plot elements will always be sacrificed.

>>123371916
With or without Butcher the show weren't supposed to be this pointless, it's like trash.

>Rayet's kill steal from Inaho/Slaine on the Count chick with all the hands.

That was fun

>>123372108
Yes. He and Yuki-nee should have been the Dearka/Miriallia inter-faction beta copule of A/Z.

>>123372180
That's why I said that it was just poorly thought and didn't make sense.

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>>123361153
>What was even her point in the story?

She was there to add artificial depth to the story at the beginning. Making the story seem complex by having multiple subterfuge arcs at the beginning makes a good first impression and stops most whiners from posting their first whine. These superficial depth investments are tactics you see in various light novel stories as well, so it's nothing new.

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>>123371211
Inaho deserves it.

>>123372146
Earthside still needs to be in the story somehow. That's just the laziest way. Cut them out, and you almost erase earthside entirely. Then you can't have a war story.

It won't work.

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>>123370991
You're my new best friend. Nothing like a BTFO breeder to make my afternoon an adventure in posting homo just to piss you off.

>>123372180
Maybe, many of the people that knew that Saazbaum was behind it is dead.

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>Inaho's idea of an April Fool's joke
>Slaine takes it seriously

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Why do all the female counts and Rayet have the same hair colour?

>>123371211
Inko is a joke character.

>>123372307
They're not, Slaine had the moon base staff surrender. The only ones that died were Harklight, Barry, and the Stygis.

>>123372332
Female martians are predisposed to red hair?

>>123372332

Red planet = red hair

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>>123372377
>A/Z
>anyone dying

>>123372377
OK then either Bribed or Executed (unlike Barry Harklight Lemrina Slaine Doritto and the Stygis).

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Sauce did nothing wrong.

He should have won.

>>123372290
I didn't say cut out all fight scenes, just unnecessary ones; of which there were too many, like the ones I specified. The fight against the ice guy? That was just there to allow Inaho to show off and show the audience his new eye. Which could have been done in a variety of different ways. Instead, an entire episode dedicated to taking out fodder on the grand scale of things.

>>123372377
They gain nothing by opening up their mouth? So long as they get to live and eat kfc it's good enough for them, I guess?

Now that I think about it, If AssHime have persona like Lemmy instead of this retard thick head princess, the ending would make sense.

>>123371940
Slaine was practically already at the serving of Saazabaum and was more ambitious and evil. There was no ambiguity, the point of the story was just the love between Ass-Hime and Inaho with Slane that gets in the way.
It would work much better, exactly because of shoty numbers of episodes.

The whole mess happened because they have distorted the story, but left unchanged the ending (which, in fact, no longer makes sense with these premises).

>>123372430
Lemrina was in a hospital bed, seems they were treated well.

>>123372377
And Sauce soldiers who surrendered when his attack on Russian base failed, Dorito, the whole Deucalion crew, people who worked for Cruhteo. UFE and Asseylum would need to keep everyone quiet or put them in prison.

>>123372377
Slaine wanted them to live.

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>>123372361
At least her VA isn't.

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Was Yuki-nee just a poor man's Misato in the end?

>>123372470
Much like what I said about Asshime Inaho and Saazbaum getting a cap popped up all of their asses at the end of series 1, you don't know that. Hell it could be Harklight or Bob Barker in that hospital bed.

>>123372465
He wasn't evil. He was more like Reinhard and Lelouch without this idiotic himefagging that ruined him.

>>123372445
For earth to be an actual opposition in a war, they need to be relevant. As it is, barely any viewer cares. Cut it down futher and they'll be practically canon fodder tier. You don't wage war against canon fodder.

>>123372488
Yeah, thinking about how many people know, blaming him just doesn't make sense. I don't know why they didn't blame Saazbaum as well, he did attack the UFE HQ and commanded the moon base for 2 years.

>>123372446
What if some of the moon base staff still believe in Slaine's cause and don't like that Slaine-sama took the blame for everything? They can join the other Counts and tell them the truth. Once Lemrina is treated she could go to fight, remember she wanted to continue the war for Slaine.

Are people seriously arguing war and conquest aren't mandatory for a country growth when they have no natural resources? What education did they have in school?

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>>123372505
Plus incest.

>>123372532
Still would have worked better over the Slane we had in the anime.

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>>123372498

mein neger

Movie subs never

>>123372532
So his tragic flaw is him being a himefag?

>>123372567
Lemrina must be furious that he was blamed and she probably blames herself for telling Asseylum. Since there are Counts that aren't giving up their lands it would be easy for them to ignite a civil war.

>>123372548
They were cannon fodder though. Their significance was irrelevant except for the fact "lol, we're space knights". Their only purpose in the story was to be beaten by Inaho. I understand that they have to show Earth being war torn, but there are other ways to do this then spending every episode having Inaho beat the little bad.

>>123372433
Sauce was the only worthwhile character in the show, as well as the only one who truly cared about the future of Vers. His only mistake was trusting that useless faggot Slaine.

>>123372601
>Movie subs never
It's subbed, check the catalog

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>>123372395
>>123372425
All the Martains are at least have 1-2 generations along if they didn't originate from Earth itself. It seems unlikely that red-hair was the predominate hair colour amongst the original scientists unless the counts/Rayet are at least first/second cousins.

The story was about Slaine, he was the one who became Zero to start over from there in the end (even if it was poorly displayed). Now I understand why he was the first one created, it's like they built the entire plot about his chase, rise, fall and rebirth.

>>123372614
Yes, he could have kept the war going with Lemrina even after Asseylum's declaration.

>>123372601
I'm sorry to break it for you anon, but they are out

>>123361388
You aren't allowed to insult Slaine on /a/. You will awake the Slainefags.

>>123372322
What does it say?

>>123372626
>Asseylum knows Lemrina cares for Slaine
>Dorito defends Slaine
>She blames him for everything and lets everyone hate him

>>123372567
Their loyalty for Slaine was never shown to be personal except for Harklight and maybe the handfuls who came back to moonbase to fight. It's very possible everybody who's left simply cares more for their chicken.

>>123372627
No, I meant earth would be reduced to canon fodder tier.

>>123372716
Operator-chan wasn't from Stygis and gave 0 fucks of Asseylum's muh peace whining. Harklight mentions the base is loyal to him.

>>123362763
>Aldnoah Zero would be 100x better as a SoL instead a poorly written shit

>>123372716
They were in shuttles, they couldn't have done anything.

>>123372750
What do you mean? As in there needs to be fights showing Earth beating space knights?

>>123372774
He said morale was very high too, these people like Slaine didn't consider themselves from Vers anymore either. These guys were dedicated.

>>123372711
In the past we joked about Lacus saying she was evil but ... She has never done anything so disgusting. With this action (even just accept what they did, without opposing) completely redefines her character. Think that some of the Knights who started the war in the first season (those who are guilty of the greater destruction) still alive and free with no guilt ( or or that no one accuse "Saazam") ... is disturbing.

>>123361412
OlderShinji was kind useful for giving history via flashbacks.
As for the second season, nobody was worthwhile outside those 3. Even people who did important things like the other Counts could have been cut back with all their actions put into one character.

>>123372970
If there is a season 3 I would see her as the main villian replacing Saazbaum.

>>123372711
What makes you think it wasn't Slaine's idea or that Slaine doesn't agree or wants this? At the last episode, he sabotaged Vers side from doing an effective war come back so Ass could not be defied in a successful way.

Slaine's dream was always peace and coexistence and his aspiration was to be of use to Ass not expecting anything in return. He never sought anything for himself, he was probably expecting death if he succeeded too. With his charge and actions in the last episode, he ensured this was going to happen and he wanted to eliminate himself so Ass wouldn't find a strong opponent. Inaho and Ass saved his life and gave him a chance to start over, Slaine is dead but he as person is not and he accomplished what he wanted: peace, Aldnoah becoming open to everyone (well not the way he exactly wanted, but this was a point he addressed), be of use to the princess and knowing that she didn't want him to die helped him to face his guilty conscience and be at peace with his actions and deeds. Slaine might not have started the war but he still killed people and did shit he hated because he's a naturally kind and gentle person. He couldn't live with himself but in the end he accepted it and felt free.

>>123372970
That none of the Counts were shown being punished really leaves a bad taste in ones mouth.

>>123373063
I don't think he had any input in them blaming him for everything. He wouldn't care since he wanted to die but it's just not right and is a easily found out lie that can fuck over Asseylum's peace.

>>123373063
>His aspiration was to be of use to hime

No, he loved her.

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>Inaho still trying to find a way to cheer him up

>>123373063
I wonder why people don't realize that what brought the situation to be called as a ceasefire isn't so much Asshime's speech but what Slaine did after the speech. He disarmed the Vers side and made it scattered so there would not be hostilities and he knew exactly what he was doing, that's why he was as satisfied as Sauce to be killed in the end, because he knew he accomplished what would give foundations for what Ass and he wanted.

>>123361673
She didn't grow or develop as a character at all, even though she was the most naive and stupid character in the entire series and STILL always had things go her way (hurr durr universal Aldnoah priveleges no way this could fail. Oh wait, you mean it actually worked and everyone's at peace now? right...).
Plus being a slut, with so many people pining after her, and she'd willing take all of their dicks except Mazuurek's simply because she never met him.

>>123373217
Main problem here though is that to keep that peace she needs to fix Vers, by all appearances she hasn't done anything and she still has opposition.

>>123373157
He said in episode 19 he just wanted to be of use of her.

>>123373144
Slaine foresaw this. Remember his talks to Lemons, Slaine is a cunning person who knows how to read the political field. He did this exactly to be blamed. He could have easily surrendered and but then someone would taken his place. He ensured nobody would at least for now.

>>123373262
A weak opposition with a poor morale. Those Counts aren't wagging war but minding themselves. Fixing Vers is an issue that was handwaved, but if it becomes Capitalism, she and the feudal system is screwed. Either way, Slaine realized there was another way and went for it to do what would take to ensure it would happen.

Ass once again did nothing though, which makes it annoying as fuck. She sat and let Slaine do the job for her and Inaho to pick up the pieces.

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Princes of Miserable Peace waking up completely ruined the show.
If Slaine finished his transformation into space Hitler the story could go to conflict and less drama.
And they did not explain ayy lmao technology and disappearance.
>WHY DID THE ADVANCED ALIENS DIE OUT?
>WHY THEY BUILT PORTALS TO EARTH AND MOON?
>WHY DID ALDONAH TECH NOT SAVE THEM?
>DID THE MECHA MCGUFFIN ACTUALLY KILLED THEM?
>WHY DID THIS NEVER BECAME A PLOT POINT?
>WHY NOT MAKE MAZUREK THE HIME BRIDE AND INSTEAD INTRODUCE CHARACTER LACKING FAGGOT INSTEAD?
>WHY NOT MAKE ALDONAH ENERGY BLOW UP HALF OF EARTH TO MAKE A PLOT POINT ABOUT "PEACEFUL USE OF ADVANCED TECH"
>WHY THERE IS SO MANY UNUSED CHARACTERS?
>WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT PART WITH MECHANICAL EYE WITH PERSONALITY?
>WOULDN'T MORE SOLDIERS USE IT?
>WHY NOT MOUNT IT ON ACTUAL MECHS FOR 100% USEFULNESS INSTEAD OF MAKING GARY STU INTO GARY STU SS3

>>123373217
Yes and okey... but there are moral implications that should be considered. The actions have meaning. The fact that Slaine wants to play the villan and die, can not and and MUST NOT prevent the protagonists (especially if they are shown as positive characters) to do the right thing.

Accuse throw on him all responsibility and leave out the real culprits is a right thing? No, it is not. So, whether voluntary or not, it seems that Asseylum uses Slaine (a terrestrial spy) to not put a bad light on Mars. But Mars has caused the death of millions of people in the season 1. this is unacceptable.

>>123373369
Vers as whole are screwed once the UFE has full Alndoah rights.

>>123373437
This. It doesn't matter what Slaine wanted, what they did in blaming him for everything is wrong. That Saazbaum got zero blame is unsettling.

>>123373279
He wanted to be of use to her yes, but he also loved her. Ever since she rescued him from drowning or whatever it was that happened to his dumbass.

>>123373437
There was already a lot of death, the right thing to do is try to stop the kills instead of punishing more people. I understand what you say, but I don't think she's using him more than he obviously played the situation in the end to be used on his favor and hers: and he obviously knew he was going to be blamed, he foresaw all the outcomes already, he knew what would happen when he took that choice. She is not that smart. Is it bad they blame someone who didn't do it? Of course, but he doesn't mind this, he got what he wanted in the end and he got a second chance to start over he had never considered after being relieved of all the guilt he felt. Ass' wish for him to be saved of misery reached him. That's probably what they wanted to convey but the show was just so badly written and rushed in the end that failed and made Ass look like a huge bitch and everyone braindead.

Those three birds flying together in the end was because the three were in the same wavelength. Slaine sacrificed his life and identity to be the Devil Ass needed for peace. Ass sacrificed her happiness to be with the two of them, to be the ruler they needed to bring their desired peace. Inaho sacrificed any grudge he had for Slaine to save him and try to bring him a hope for happiness. Of course you can argue Slaine was the one who sacrificed more things and you would be right, he did. But he has now a chance to start fresh and do whatever he wants and be whoever he wants, he has absolute freedom after he is released. Slaine was always defined for his origin or by his fathers and now that is gone, that must be a huge weight off his shoulders.

The main problem wasn't with Slaine's arc but with the war itself. I suspect this anon is right >>123372647 The story was centered on Slaine's journey to be Zero. The intergalactic war was the setting (in particular the second cour) which is why we have so many plotholes left hanging.

Too bad about the shit writing.

>>123373579
Maybe he did, but he never wanted to be be loved back in that way. Same with Eggs.

>>123373965
>The story was centered on Slaine's journey to be Zero
It is, aoki said the second cour would be about "the real meaning of Zero."

>>123374068
[citation needed]

>>123374094
It was in an interview with Aoki online. The same he speaks of his influence (Zoymer, Macross, Patlabor, Gundam). The second cour was going to be about the true meaning behind Zero of the title.

>>123374206
>[citation needed]

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Mineva Lao Zabi is the only good peace loving pussy princess. fact!

>>123372498
She actually looks like 3D Inko.

>>123372706
>>123372322
I'd guess it's a marriage certificate

http://artbooksnat.tumblr.com/post/115212775559/

>>123374461
What's with the sudden influx of tumblr link posting?

>>123374532
>sudden

>>123373965
when you're on the verge of moral (and all the war stories are) you have to be very aware of what you're putting on screen. The limit to something ambiguous, but acceptable for a special need to something totally perverse is thin.

>>123372322
I think this is chink.
Form: Marriage Registration
S: Are you trying to woo me?
Eggs: Today is April Fool's Day
S: Is that the reason?
Eggs: That's the reason.

I'm not translating the last two bubbles. Too much text for my mediocre skills.

>>123374905
Autistic Eggs can't into pranking, holy shit, that's adorable.

>>123374283
See >>123365253

>>123373527
If they wanted him to go down while wanting to be blamed for everything then at least let the guy die like he wanted, he seemed to be at peace with everything at the end and then they dragged him back. Now Inaho's going to be stuck for who knows how many years healing him.

>>123362272
>A lot of the characters were superfluous
feel free to say everyone except inaho and hime

>>123363238
No, please.

>>123363238
Or Just wait for an OVA.

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>>123373965

>>123373965
>Ass sacrificed her happiness to be with the two of them, to be the ruler they needed to bring their desired peace. Inaho sacrificed any grudge he had for Slaine to save him and try to bring him a hope for happiness
This is where the argument fails. Neither of their sacrifices, if you even call it that, are on the same level since it doesn't even effect either of them. Inaho is just doing Hime a favor he's not sincere, Hime gets to live the rest of her life in lavish luxury knowing that her dream is fullfilled. None of those are bad in the slightest and it;s added even worse when Slaine started the story being kicked around with everything bad happening to him and we're suppose to believe this is the best course of action? Give me a fucking break they could have done so many thing better than this but they didn't have the time, Slaine dying would have been a much better conclusion because he would have died with the knowledge that his life meant something in the end him going "Zero" just pushes the notion that he was always a failure and never amounted to anything and just got to live on due to the misguided will of the princess.

>>123361153
Nothing just like everything else in Aldnoah.Zeroredeemingqualities

>>123376446
I feel sorry for Inaho, he's stuck picking up the pieces and fixing Slaine while Asseylum doesn't do jack shit. Having him save his life is one thing, asking him to free him from the chains of misery is a completely different matter.

>>123376667
Well who's to blame for Slaine's life being in pieces besides himself?

>>123376713
Slaine's to blame fir his father not giving a shit about him and sending him off to live with a Count and physically and mentally abused him for years?

>>123376667
>I feel sorry for Inaho
Why? He's a hero of earth and an army general now at the tender age of 18. His own oblijection is due to literally being a retard he should have just killed Slaine because keeping him alive does nothing to him just his faint promise to Hime. That's why the ending is so bad is because it feels like Slaine is the only one who lost anything.

>>123376873
So basically Slaine can blame Klancain's dad and his own father?

>>123377258
Answer the question/

>>123377258
You don't answer a question with another question retard. Slaine's life was always in pieces it's when he actually had a chance to accomplish something that it meant something and when it failed it didn't matter at all.

>>123377328
>Inaho got cucked by some random asshole who came completely out of left field, I'd count that as a loss
Yet he does not give a shit.
>Although being a military hero who survived everything certainly makes up for it and losing Hime ain't even that bad, especially if you have a harem of Inko, Rat, Slaine and your Onee-chan all for yourself to make up for it.
Exactly, he has his friends and family intact so he's fine without her

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>>123377388
>Yet he does not give a shit.
Didn't you notice the anguish in his eyes?

>>123377460
It's but a dream anon...but a dream

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>>123361153
Her Legs

>>123373582
>nobody gets this Uzumaki reference
Sasuga, neo-/a/.

>>123371881
>A serious war story simply requires more episodes.
Blue Gender got it done with 26 episodes

>>123372108
>Does anyone else think Count Books should've stayed with the Deucalion so we could finally get some interaction between the Terrans and Martians?
No because only fujoshis give a shit

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>>123377585
I got it.

>>123372497
No he didn't. He went into a bitchfit

>>123363321
Inko.

>>123371916
He was did the basic story line Takayama and Aoki were always in charge

>>123377585
>wanting replies to validate the post instead of knowing that somewhere someone got it and was amused before moving on
I think you're the new one here.

>>123363321
Yuki.

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>>123363321
Femieanne and it's not even close

>slaine cucked to playing chess with his autistic rival
>inaho cucked too
Ayy, this ending.

>>123371062
Lacus was a shitty Mary Sue

>>123378283
You are right, however, I began to reconsider Gundam Seed Destiny after AZ.

Still shit, but the story, at least, had a sense.

is it over?

>>123378479
s3 in fall.

>>123378267
Is it physically impossible for you to go into a thread and not shitpost?

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What was even his point in the story?

>>123379527
The proof that this show was not planned, but improvised.

Raye is to be raped. Not loved.

>>123361153
Master masturbate bait.

>First it was Gargantia
>now it's this

Do they just plaster Urobutcher's name on everything?

I guess it works, because people always eat it up.

>>123361153
If you consider S2 there was no point in anything.
I mean season 1 had various issues (quite a few of them actually), but it was not bad either. Season 2 delivered nothing but shit and bullshit, it wasn't event a proper trainwreck.

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>>123372626
I would think that she is.

>>123379527
If you think about it, everything that happened during the show was pointless.

How are the sales for Aldnoah.Zero Blu ray 6?

>>123381441
Total shit. Worse than Exodus

>>123372505
>Misato
Did Yuki die in then end, or what?

>>123381897
It's early and the fact it's Amazon so give it time. And the fact that the ending was mixed reception, would not help the sales anyway.

It was at least better than Star Driver where the slut couldn't decide which cock to take and ended up with both.

This shit just shouldn't sell well, otherwise they'll start to think that they can feed feces to the audience and get away with it.

>>123382303
Well it's japan so we don't know.

>>123382303
That lesson was learned by the biz a long time ago when Endless Eight sold like hot cakes.

>>123382303
Well, sales kinda drop compare to previous volume, still I think it will end up around 6000. We will see if it will drastically drop or not in next volume.

>>123381422
How is it possible to make a mecha show where everything was pointless?

Why did they even have Saazbaum and Slaine talk about how bad the people of Vers's lives are and how wealth only goes to the top? Asseylum didn't change anything within the society so even though she's made these deals with the UFE the people of Vers are still suffering. Are we supposed to imagine it all falling apart and them overthrowing her and chopping off her head or something?

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>>123383525
>Are we supposed to imagine it all falling apart and them overthrowing her and chopping off her head or something?
It's my preferred interpretation at least. But then again, ideally things never should've gotten to this point, see >>123361358

>shame her attempt to kill asshime failed season 2 would be much better
Sad indeed.

>>123361153
I want to impregnate Rat.

I'm surprised most people on /a/ like this show. Is it just because it's currently airing and not total shit?

>>123384461
The series as whole would have been better if Asseylum had died in episode 1.

>>123386835
Have you been reading the threads? I'd say you could count the number of people who liked the show by the end on one hand.

>>123386835
>/a/
>liking anything

if something's unpopular, it's unpopular
if something's popular, it WILL get shitted upon without mercy
there is no winning move

>>123386875
I never went into the threads, but 300+ replies in a thread is enough to make me think people like it.

/v/ here

Dropped this shit when everyone was unkill, spoil everything pls.

>>123387029
/a/ here

/v/ermin fuck off

>>123386983
No, we're complaining and uniting in our hate.

>>123387029
/k/ here

Get the fuck out of here /v/irgin

>>123387131
/vg/ here

I'm lost, help.

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>>123387029
Nobody of importance died except for best boy Salsa. Hime proved to be completely immortal. Eggs saved everyone and everything because his magic eye lets him do anything. But both MCs got cucked by some random dude. The end.