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Sunrise vs Madhouse

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Which is the better studio?

Sunrise boasts franchises like Gundam, Code Geass and Cross Ange among others.

Madhouse has Hunter X Hunter, Death Parade and Parasyte.
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Madhouse movies are unquestionably better than Sunrise anything.
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>>122849638
>Satoshi Kon movies are unquestionably better than Sunrise anything
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>>122849701
Yes. I am glad we are on the same terms here.
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>>122849537
>Gundam, Code Geass and Cross Ange
>Hunter X Hunter, Death Parade and Parasyte.
They're both trash.
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>>122849736
I agree. Only plebians like Madhouse and Sunrise. True patricians, however, are faithful to the much better KyoAni and SHAFT.
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Your choice of examples is rather interesting. In particular, I don't think Madhouse is known for their current works.
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In my opinion Madhouse are more of a hit and miss Studio compared to Sunrise.

Plus Gintama is pretty much better than any of the recent output from Madhouse.
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>>122849803
I was providing the trendy examples.

Picking the absolute best from both would be time-consuming.
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>>122849866
>Gintama is pretty much better than any of the recent output from Madhouse.
Except HxH and Parasyte.
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>>122849912
>Parasyte
>actually good
This is what plebs actually believe.

It's a mediocre adaptation with poor direction, lacklustre visuals and shitty characters, though I would blame that on the source material.
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>>122849912
Kaiji and Claymore.
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>>122849537
Can we stop comparing studios? It isn't the studio fault if the anime is good or not, we should start comparing writers if we want to compare something that makes sense.
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>>122849866
>Gintama
>better than anything

>>>/global/rules/2
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>>122849912
Everyone knows that Gintama is better than HunterxHunter. Gintama is pretty much one of the most rare shows to have a variety of genres and still be able to execute them really well.

And please don't bring Parasyte into this especially with its shit music and direction.
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>>122850023
and who hires the writers, bubs?

There's plenty of merit in comparing studios.
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>>122850023
>watching anime for the writing

Are you a legitimate drooling retard?
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>>122849996
>It's a mediocre adaptation with poor direction, lacklustre visuals
Just like HxH.
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Are you seriously using Shit Parade as a defense mechanism for Madhouse? You have all of these:
>CCS
>Beck
>Black Lagoon
>Death Note
>Dennou Coil
>Diamond no Ace
>Gunslinger Girl
>Kaiji
>Hajime no Ippo
>Hellsing Ultimate
>Kaiba
>Monster
>Paranoia Agent
>Nana
and you choose that garbage?
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Madhouse did Texhnolyze but Sunrise did Horizon.

Damn that's a toughy.
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>>122849537
Sunrise is in charge of the trash since Gundam SEED.
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>>122849996
>lacklustre visuals
Their visuals department moved over to MAPPA.
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>shit ange
>boast
ayy
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Sunrise if you like mecha, Madhouse if you like dark dramas. I like both.
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From this decade, Sunrise has Tiger & Bunny and Colorful. Madhouse has Chihayafuru, Tatami Galaxy, and Wolf Children. That's it. Madhouse wins.
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>>122849537
>Sunrise boasts franchises like Gundam, Code Geass and Cross Ange among others.

All 3 are shit. Especially Gunam & Ange.

>Madhouse has Hunter X Hunter, Death Parade and Parasyte.

Based, based, and based. Madhouse wins, no contest.
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>>122850263
Madhouse also has Mahou Sensou and Btooom.
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>>122850335
>implying Death Parade is good.
Pleb status confirmed.
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Sunrise
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>>122850378
Yeah and Sunrise has vomit inducing trash like VVV and Cross Ange.
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>>122849791
>I agree. Only plebians like Madhouse and Sunrise. True patricians, however, are faithful to the much better KyoAni and SHAFT
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>>122850378
I was listing their good stuff.
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>>122850416

Do you not understand sarcasm you autistic retard?
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>>122850335
>two subpar adaptations and a shit orginal
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>those examples

How new are you, OP?
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>>122850415
VVV was enjoyable come on.
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>>122850536
>and also one opinion
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I'd go with Madhouse, unless you're really all about mecha.
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>>122849537
>Sunrise boasts franchises like Gundam, Code Geass and Cross Ange among others.
You could have put more currently airing shows and nothing as shit as Cross Ange though.
>Madhouse has Hunter X Hunter, Death Parade and Parasyte.

Gee, aren't you biased here.
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>>122850493

Do you not understand sarcasm you autistic retard?
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>>122850576
refer to
>>122849887
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>>122849537
Madhouse easily

>>122849996
I hate this meme
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>>122850602
It's okay, I respect you're opinion.
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>>122850590
I can only expect a literal retard like Lecancer to actually defend VVV. Not even normies like it.
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>>122849537
Almost all of Sunrise's claims to fame have been original anime.

Madhouse on the other hand does almost exclusively adaptations. Even among the three examples OP gave only Death parade isn't an adaptation.
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>people actually think Wolf Children is good
The pleb is strong with this one.
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>>122850725
And what's wrong with that
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>>122850629
Oh forgot MH did GG, Okay Madhouse wins by a country mile.

Texhnolyze and GG two of the best shows are dicking on Sunrise.
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You faggots don't even even have Gintama for Sunrise which is pretty much better than most adaptations from Madhouse.

Man the dickriding for Madhouse is real.
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>>122850629
How can one studio have so many great shows?
I am willing to ignore all the crap they made but wow.
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>>122850725
True but some of the original anime they've done are easily on par if not better than anything Sunrise has done.
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>>122850849
>Japanese Family Guy
>good
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>>122850756
It's much easier to adapt something that already has a large fan base. Anime like Death note, CCS, and Parasyte could have been done by a multitude of studios and still have been successes.

It's like saying ufotable is a good studio despite the fact that all they do is make high-budget adaptations of extremely popular TM shit.

Original anime often doesn't have that luxury.
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>>122850940
Only dumb faggots like you think that.
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>>122850849
Stay on MAL.
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>>122850940
>>122850031
Stop being shitty contrarians, everyone knows Gintama is fucking great
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>>122850849
Why is Madhouse so bad at adaptations?
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>>122851008
I got bored after 10 episodes, I refuse to watch a show that supposedly gets better after 50
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>>122850874
Too bad the current Madhouse is shit nothing like there former selfs.
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>>122851053
Your loss
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>>122849537
Madhouse is objectively the best anime studio,Sunrise is not the second or even the third,also you gave really bad examples of Madhouse shows
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>>122851140
>objectively
I agree but fuck off
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The one that didn't make Mahou Sensou.
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>>122850892
The impact isn't nearly the same.

Anime like 0079, Votoms, and Patlabor, in addition to them each being good in their own right, collectively pioneered an entirely new genre of anime.

Madhouse has nothing of the sort.
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>>122850629
>mecha
But bebop, escaflowne, votoms, myhime, planetes, nichibros, city hunter, horizon, tiger, gintama are great to name a few sunrise non mechas.
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>>122851214
We're not talking about impact. We're talking about quality of shows.
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I can't wait until MAPPA establishes itself as the new best studio in a few years.
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>>122851214
>Sunrise's version of Patlabor
>Not Production I.G's
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>Madhouse getting One Punch Man

GG, Sunrise.
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>>122851247
>myhime

My Hime was Sunrise's 1st attempt at the type of over the top garbage they spew out like VVV or Cross Ange.
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>>122851266
The quality is there too, it's like you ignored the "in additio" part.
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>>122849537
Those show selections have to be bait - Cross Ange, DP, and Parasyte will be forgotten within the year (Ange might still have hype threads, I guess, because its fanbase is addicted).

Ignoring that, Madhouse'd win even if you removed everything but Kon, though /m/fags obviously should be directed to Sunrise.
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>>122851247
>votoms
>non-mecha
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>Noone even mentions the unlimited money making idol series Love Live
This is the sole reason SUNRISE wins the bowl
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>>122851324
And it was pretty good. The first season at least.
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Madhouse is God tier when it comes to adaptions.

>Monster
>Kaiji
>Akagi
>HxH
>Chihayafuru
>Rainbow
>Kiseijuu
>HnI
>Death Note
>Beck
>One Outs
>Black Lagoon
>Trigun
>CCS
>Paradise Kiss
>Moryou no Hako
>Shigurui
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>>122851280
Yeeeeaaah… we'll see about that. They'll be dead faster than Madhouse if they keep going like this, not to mention they don't have one great show to show for themselves yet.
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>>122851077
They have a bit further to go before they can match the falls of Bones and Gainax.

>>122851374
Your post was about the impact, and the quality comment was an aside that didn't dispute that Madhouse's shows were on par with or better than the ones you named. Stop being a debatefag.
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People Dickriding Madhouse is especially hilarious when they are the ones who adapted Mahou Senou. Pretty the worst unredeemable piece of trash of the decade. Even Sunrise hasn't adapted shit as worse as that.
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>>122851391
>Parasyte will be forgotten
I can guarantee it will become the normie bait of the year with SnK and Tokyo Ghoul
Despite being actually good
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>>122851466
>adaptations being anything to be proud of
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>>122851374
I didn't say the quality wasn't there. My point is Madhouse's originals like Dennou Coil or Paranoia Agent or Texhnolyze or Kemonozume or Kaiba are all as good if not better than Sunrise originals. You're the one who bought up the impact.
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>>122851506
It was shit to begin with so who cares
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>>122851477
They've made like five shows, and Ippo was at least a one-in-five quality show.
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>>122849537
Current Sunrise >>> Current Madhouse

Old Sunrise >= Old Madhouse
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>>122851506
Nice english there, m8
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>>122851053
As someone who also dropped it early on and started watching it around a year after it popped up on cable I can officially say it gets better after a shit ton of episodes
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I like both studios, but I despise OP choices of examples.
Sunrise has Cowboy Bebop
Madhouse has Trigun and Kon's movies.

So I'd say Madhouse, by a slight margin.
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>>122851506
That's not really anything new. Every time they do a great adaptation of a few dozen shows, they shit out bad eggs like dmc.
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>>122851524
>adaptions are easy to do

That must be why every adaption is so top tier. Oh wait
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>>122851524

>pretending to be retarded

Most anime are adaptations.
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People seem to be forgetting Madhouse's best animation team these days are the ones doing HxH. Everything else gets handed to korean slavework. 90's and early 00's talent from Madhouse are mostly gone now or left for other studios.
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>>122851506
They just make original trash like Cross Ange.
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>>122851522
It's a good manga but a poor adaptation job. I wouldn't watch again.
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>>122850410
>picks Sunrise
>uses an image from a Madhouse anime
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>>122851466
Adaptations can only ever be as good as their source material (the majority of which aren't).

If you want to include adaptations you can't just cherry pick the good stuff either. You have to include all the garbage like Mahou Sensou, mahouka, Btooom, and all their horrible comic book hero adaptations.
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>>122851652
At least it's enjoyable trash.
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>>122851111
Not his loss, Gintama takes over 150 episodes to finally get good. That's a huge fucking timesink.
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>>122851667
Those were shit sources to begin with though.
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>>122851689
More like 25.
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>>122851631
You're aware HxH ended months ago right?
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>>122851682
Not every one enjoys eating shit.
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>>122851608
You missed the point.

Adaptations largely reflect on their source material unless the studio take a bunch fo creative liberties (which almost always only make things worse). Pointing to an adaptation as a way of saying a studio is good is entirely pointless because you could just as easily list all the trash adaptations Madhouse has done.
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>>122851689
It gets good at episode 20 or something, it gets REALLY good at 100+. Besides, it's not like that anon has something better to do
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>>122851689
Your fuckin stupid it gets better right after 20 or so episodes not 150 you piece of shit.
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>>122851745
That doesn't change anything I've said.
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>>122851745
I don't believe it
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>>122851466
>Kiseijuu
>God tier adaptation
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>>122851689
Why does anyone see it, then? Do people decide they'd rather spend three days watching trash to prepare themselves for a couple dozen good episodes than watch a half-dozen good series (or LotGH or a fifth of Gundam or something)?
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>Madhouse
Tatami Galaxy
Death Note
Boogiepop Phantom
Cardcaptor Sakura
Claymore
Clover
Death Parade
Hajime no Ippo
Hellsing Ultimate
Hunter × Hunter
LOTGH
Nana
No Game No Life
Paprika
Paranoia Agent
Parasyte
Perfect Blue
Redline
Texhnolyze
Trigun
Tokyo Godfathers
Monster

Is this even a competition?
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>>122851775
>unless the studio take a bunch fo creative liberties (which almost always only make things worse)

Good thing Madhouse is good at that too.
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>>122851739
That's the entire point.

Now apply that logic the other way around for a second. Good adaptations usually have good source material too. It hardly says anything about the studio.
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>>122850125
You're also missing Tatami Galaxy. I don't know how he could possibly pick some of the worst shows from each studio in hopes of defending them.
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>>122851843
>moeturd image
opinion discarded
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>>122851466
>Monster
>HxH
>Rainbow
>Parasyte
>Death Note
>One Outs
>Black Lagoon
>Trigun
>CCS
Ya blew it
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>>122851865
Because he's a troll. Gintama gets good right after 20 episodes.
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>>122850046
>a variety of genres and still be able to execute them really well.
Gintama is fucking hilarious and I love it but the 'serious' arcs are mediocre at best. They're always painfully generic and overly melodramatic, it's like Sorachi is so used to parodying battle shounen that he can't come up with anything but a poor imitation of other series. They're full of bad speeches and sob story flashbacks, compare it to something like the CA arc and it just doesn't measure up.
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>>122851922
>being this contrarian
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>>122851899
Didn't know the GARbage filth was still alive
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>>122851922
You seem to have shit taste. I'd get that checked.
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>>122850654
Do you not understand sarcasm you autistic retard?
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>>122851966
You don't seem to understand what 'good adaptation' means.
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>>122851865
20 bad episodes of a 260+ anime is a relatively small percentage. You don't need to marathon it. 1 episode a day is enough.
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>>122851885
It's hard to improve the source material (though it does happen), but it's very easy to degrade it.
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>>122851922
>Death Note
>CCS
>HxH
>Bad
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>>122852010
Twenty episodes is reasonable. The other guy was saying a hundred-plus, which I wouldn't slog through.
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>>122851993
Okay. Go whine about how the anime was missing one frame from the manga somewhere else.
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>>122851872
/thread
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Current Madhouse isn't very good while the current Sunrise is pretty good.

Old Madhouse beats the old Sunrise by a large margin.
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>>122852032
Fuck off.
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>>122852121
>current Sunrise is pretty good
>Cross Ange
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>>122852121
>Current Madhouse
You can't judge a anime studio based only on the last two years
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>>122851945
>the 'serious' arcs are mediocre at best.
Wow, every serious show other than something like LOGH must make you cringe then
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>>122852173
But it's been five years since Tatami Galaxy came out.
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>>122852163
If you're really a contrarian/hipster faggot at least try to act as one and don't parrot insults to fit in,what's next?
>Kill yourself
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>>122852238
Tatami Galaxy was not the last good anime from Madhouse
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>>122852316
But it was.
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>>122852015
It's not about improving it though.

All Madhouse (or any other studio producing an adaptation) needs to do is follow the safe route of sticking with the source material, and as long as their animators or budget don't suck, they will likely produce a passable adaptation.

What it boils down to is the success of the adaptation has much more to do with the author of the source material than anything the studio does.
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>>122851865
>Why does anyone see it, then?

Most anime watchers don't value their own time, myself included. If you're smart though, you'll just skip the episodic shit and watch the 50-ish episodes that actually matter.
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>>122852259
My opinion on these adaptations is irrelevant.
Go and frogpost on s4s.
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>>122852346
Parasyte,No Game, No Life and Death Parade are bad now?
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>>122852374
But the episodic shit in Gintama is the best part, and is the most of it
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>>122849537
Your examples are fucking retarded. They're both good. End of discussion.
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>>122852486
Those shit shows were never good.
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>>122852486
Yes. All of those listed are just absolutely awful. Do you seriously think they're good?
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>>122852463
It's not irrelevant because the frogpost was used to represent your hipster essence
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>>122852563
>>122852540
>Not a masterpiece=Shit
okay faggots
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>>122852540
>>122852563
Just kill yourselves, contrarian scum
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>>122852567
Not that anon, but frogposting isn't allowed here.
>>>/v/
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Can we agree that both studios have the worst fanbases?
Sunrise and their Gintama circlejerkers
Madhouse and their HXH circlejerkers
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>>122852563
Life must suck when you can't enjoy good things.
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>>122852567
Of course it is since I am not the same faggot than the guy you first responded too.
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>>122852671
>frogposting ins't allowed here
This actually a rule or just hivemind shit?
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>>122849537

>COMPARE THESE TWO STUDIOS
>HERE ARE THEIR WORST SHOWS

I notice a lack of Hellsing Ultimate for one.
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>>122852717
Hivemind, now fuck off.
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>>122852753
>Hivemind
Oh right,so you're just a faggot trying to fit in after all?
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>>122852717
Both, frogposts end up on the Ban Evader Leaderboard page all the time.
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>>122852683
>>122852663
>>122852641

So this is what /a/ has come to. We have people who unironically enjoy shit shows like Parasyte and No Game, No Life. We should've never let moot leave.
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How can anyone think that Sunrise is better than Madhouse?I hope people are just shitposting/trolling
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>>122851922
>Grouping terrible, uninspired adaptations like Monster, HxH and Parasyte with projects from talented directors like Death Note and Black Lagoon.
Ya blew it. Yes, those adaptations took a lot of creative liberties and did some things worse than their sources, but they had a creative vision and appeal all of their own. That's what makes a good adaptation, not faithfulness, big guy.

https://twolongfourtwitlonger.wordpress.com/2014/12/21/hxh-99-hxh-2011-btw/
>First, never underestimate the importance of how you convey visual information. Anime is in as good a state as it ever has been, but the >50 episode series is a dying art and the biggest reason why is a lack of capable episode directors. HxH might be an engaging story in its own right but if its presentation is poor then entire work will suffer. Second, anime adaptations where a personal vision supersedes the original source material are generally preferable to a straight adaptation, regardless of the quality of said original material. This isn’t just an empirical observation (FMA>FMA:B, Sailor Moon OG>Sailor Moon Crystal) but something fundamental: if the director cares about the adaptation personally, then they have a greater stake in its success. Say what you will about Furuhashi’s additions here and there; the direction and writing in HxH 1999 are far more consistently and cohesively realized than the Madhouse adaptation, which suffers from extreme disparities in quality on an episode-by-episode basis.
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>>122852792
Not even him, retard.
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>>122852868
>ironically enjoy something
I hope you're just pretending to be retarded
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>>122852494
Right, how many times has Gintama been cancelled again? 4? 5?
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>>122849537
The best studio is Toei so who cares about Maddog and Sunshit
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>>122852868
>hurr why don't people have exactly the same tastes as me

Stop trying so hard to fit in and kill yourself, retard.
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>>122852868
>I enjoy things in a ironically way
Kill yourself
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>>122852947
Just the same number of times it has come back
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>>122852863
>posting yourself
>>>/soc/
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>>122852947
Not cancelled, it's too profitable. Just breaks because it kept catching up to thr source.
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>>122852924
>>122852976
>>122852952
These must be the same faggots who were spamming DBZ threads yesterday.
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>>122852952
Go back to reddit and stick to your own kind with shit taste
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>>122850125
Death Parade is better than all of those, besides maybe Monster.
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>>122853098
Keep projecting idiot

>>122853139
>I have nothing to say better send him to reddit
Are you fucking retarded? Seriously.
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>>122853152
1/10
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>>122853191
Yeah. Shit taste is incurable. >>>/reddit/
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>>122853098
>>122853139
Go back to your flavor of the month moe trash you fucktards
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>>122853152
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>>122853191
>projecting

You clearly don't understand what that means. Stop defending your god awful shows and fuck off back to watching funimation dubs.
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>>122853263
>ngnl
>not moeshit
Pfffffftttttt
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>>122853255
>I don't have any personality
>Better parrot everything /a/ says!
Choke on my erect cock faggot
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>>122853255
Ok you are just genuinely retarded and have no arguments.

>>122853277
Then why are you projecting even more? Shut the fuck up.
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>>122852369
You can't just dismiss adaptations as easy like that. Studios constantly manage to fuck them up. Go to a thread for the MM or Dumpire adaptations. People are mad even before the shows begin.
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>>122853327
Why are you still replying?
If you can't stand it, feel free to leave.
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>>122853277
>Stop defending awful shows
>Because taste can be objectively measured as good or bad!
I really want to meet the master of anime who objectively judge if a show is considered good or bad
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>>122853341
You persist in using that word but still it makes no sense in the context of the conversation. And you still have the audacity to call someone else retarded?

Please fuck off back to MAL or reddit or wherever you came from. You're not wanted here.
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>>122851247
>Escaflowne
>not mecha
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>>122853399
Because it's funny talking to a genuine retard.
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>>122852486
Those are all bad, though.
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checking if b&
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>>122853399
Are you just pretending to be a mindless sheep without any personality?
>If you don't agree with us just leave!
>Hur dur
End your pathetic existence
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>>122852892
>anime adaptations where a personal vision supersedes the original source material are generally preferable to a straight adaptation
That kind of argument doesn't hold up at all, see Bokurano.
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>>122853541
You are insecure retard who believes that everyone who doesn't like your trash is Shounenfag or something else.

Your posts just scream "Stop liking what I don't like!!", you are an idiot and a hivemind drone, if you want people who have different opinions to leave then kill yourself. I have been here long enough and got used to retards.
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>>122852947
But taking a break is not the same as getting canceled
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>>122852892
BANE?
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>>122853714
it should be
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>>122853541
You're just a pathetic faggot who thinks that taste can be objectively measured as good or bad
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>>122852032
>Death Note
>HxH
>good
Normalfag please go.
Watch more than 10 anime and you'll realize that those series are shit.
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>>122853647
Not him, and I don't know how much I'd agree with his statement, but that blog guy is assuming the changes are made based on a personal commitment by the director to some aspect of the work, which definitely wasn't there for Bokurano. It wasn't just that the director took liberties - he did so without any understanding of why the manga was good to begin with.
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>>122853636
Ngnl is reddit's favorite show. You won't convince anyone here that it's good. Just go back to your own kind.
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>>122853864
Don't pretend you have good taste SHAFTfag
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>>122852873
Gintama is better than most adaptions from Madhouse. That's why Sunrise is better than Madhouse.
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>>122853673
I can see how shaken you are writing this just by the multitude of errors in your short post. It wouldn't surprised me if you hadn't been here over a year because you'd know by this point not to act like a complete retard who can only spout buzzwords. Seems like the whole hivemind argument is just an easy counter to anyone who's willing to tell you that the shows you listed previously are total garbage.

>>122853828
I'm also tired of this argument which is total crap. We were talking about the quality of the shows. Not everything is subjective and it's annoying to see that people try to shut down any discussion just by pulling out the subjectivity card. Some shows are worse than others. I don't give a fuck what you like to watch but you need to realize that there are qualities that can be objectively measure in order to determine whether a show's quality is good or bad.

I'm not wasting anymore breath. You guys are genuinely making /a/ a worse place and it makes me sad.
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>>122853828
Damn straight. Go back to reddit where you can celebrate your bad taste with other retards.
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>>122853557
Welcome to the internet.
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>>122853828
Yes, taste can't be objectively measured, and neither can any scientific claim be objectively proven, because muh solipsism, but I wouldn't fault /sci/ for telling a solipsist to fuck off when they're trying to discuss Barnett integrals, and you shouldn't fault /a/ for telling people who think recent Madhouse is good to fuck off.
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>>122853984
Ha, I'm not even the guy you originally responed to

No I'm not angry at all, I'm just amused,
Sorry but I'm not native English so I occasionally make mistakes, deal with it you American scum.
You are still a faggot trying to fit in.
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>>122853984
>>122854006
>>122854159
>OH NO! PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THE INTERNETS! BETTER START CRYING!
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>>122854280
You keep defending your right to have a different opinion, but you seem awfully pissy that others disagree with you.
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>>122853647
>>122853924 < Exactly this.
Fans who complain about BL, DN, Monogatari etc. adaptations don't know how lucky they are. And their devotion to the originals blinds them to the qualities of their good/great adaptations.
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>>122853984
>You guys are genuinely making /a/ a worse place and it makes me sad.
Cry me a river faggot
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>>122854159
Yeah, because the only /a/ approved shows are boring inoffensive trash with cute grils where nothing ever happens.
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Goathouse
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>/a/ suddenly hates Parasyte
What happened?
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>>122853924
Bokurano's director didn't like the manga, that's why he took liberties. You could call that commitment to his own vision.

Not all anime director's personal visions for an adaptation are equal.
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>>122849791
>Implying Patricians are Moefags
That's so before Ides of march
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>>122854159
That's a stupid comparison. You don't either have to totally reject or accept objectivity.
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>>122854649
>responding to bait
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>>122854607
One of the reasons he didn't like it was because of how dark it was. He hated the idea of killing all the characters off.

There's a good reason why he never gets hired anymore.
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In Best Sunrise will have another based year with Mai-HiME returns this fall season.That's all I want for this year to have more HiME goodness than ever.
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#Madhouse
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>>122854607
Yes, it's technically a 'vision,' but the linked post was talking about situations where the director likes the series and sees something in it that he really wants to work with, while I think the Bokurano guy just got stuck with a project he didn't feel a connection with and wound up directing an entirely different show from the one he was hired to do.

>>122854518
You clearly don't lurk enough.
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>>122854829
>poor man's SAO
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Tfw you wanted madhouse to do prison school but they're doing opm instead
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>>122850125
>>122851872

>The only time Nana is mentioned on /a/ are in lists like this
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>>122854649
I read that when I was in tenth grade too lad.
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>>122854743
To be fair, who would even be willing to adapt something that twisted and sadistic faithfully and associate their names with it? Bokurano would never pass an anime adaptation without major changes.
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>>122854697
I don't get what you mean about accepting or rejecting it. If you want a different example, literal taste isn't objective, obviously, but that doesn't mean some kid who eats dirt will be speaking at a gourmet chef convention.
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>>122854518
Please go back and tell your friends on whatever shit board you browse that. Maybe they won't wander over here like you then.
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>>122855145
Sorry for ruining your hugbox m8, please cry more.
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>>122855044
Konaka would have done it, but Kitoh probably wouldn't have let him near after Narutaru. Honestly, the only thing that would have been an issue for a straight adaptation was the teacher, and I don't think that's as 'bad' as what they showed in Narutaru's anime.
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>>122849537
>Cross Ange
Are people fucking serious with this? By all means, watch anime ironically, but stop this meme where you act like the show is good. It got old weeks ago.
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>>122855194
>wanting homogeneity
>the same thing as a hugbox
You're not smart.
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>>122855326
>wanting homogeneity
Ok so you're just a drone.
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>>122855051
If the kid is able to make food people like to eat he might as well.
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>>122855044
>To be fair, who would even be willing to adapt something that twisted and sadistic faithfully and associate their names with it?
Hamasaki
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Madhouse, Sunrise and I.G are my OT3
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>>122854518
>>122855145
>>122855194
>>122855326
>>122855418

STOP POLLUTING THIS THREAD RETARDS! I'm so mad at you. Go sit in the corner while the big boys talk.
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>>122855630
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>>122855630
I agree
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#SunriseVsMadhouse
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>>122855444
I would kill for a Hamasaki Bokurano.
>>
Sunrise has made some amazing stuff (Bepop, Planetes, Nichibros) but Madhouse wins by having more of the great shows (and movies).
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>>122855630
According to MALgraph, my top three are Ghibli, Gainax, and Gonzo. I don't know how to feel about that.
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>>122855910
Filthy casual.
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>>122855910
>Gonzo
Is that because of NHK?
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>>122851247
>escaflowne
>votoms
>not-mecha
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>>122856005
Probably that and FMP bumping up the score.
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>>122855910
How does it do that? By average rating or by total number above a certain rating? Because for Gonzo and Gainax, you probably just watched their good stuff.
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I'm from /m/ sunrise wins
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Both Madhouse and Sunrise have so many fucking internal studios
Better to judge those than the collective
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>>122849537
>mechbabbies will actually defend sunrise
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>>122849537
>Gundam
Bad writing. Even if it is a toy commercial.

>Code Geass
Overrated garbage. Trainwreck for the retarded.

>Cross Ange
Trainwreck for the braindead. No one asked for this pile of dogshit.
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>>122854599
>/a/ suddenly hates Parasyte

/a/ is not one person. The only ones hating on Parasyte in this thread are the moetards that only enjoy slice of life and harem anime.
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>this thread
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>>122849537
Notice how quality threads are often 50% sunrise. there's your answer.
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>>122856354
And mangafags bitching about changes
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Wait what's wrong with Enjoying Mecha?
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Only plebeians worry themselves with things like studios.
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>>122856412
That's fine since deep inside, they still enjoy it, even if they're too autistic to admit it.
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>>122856412
You don't even have to bitch about changes. The OST is really inconsistent (it works for unexpected musical cues, but the actual background music didn't do it for me), they cut tons of corners (look at the crowds), and they tried to pass off some looped animation of flailing arms as fight sequences. Migi's voice was the only thing of value the anime brought to the table.
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>>122853984
>people try to shut down any discussion just by pulling out the subjectivity card.
People do that when retards start to label others opinions automatically as shit because they said liking something,you want to discuss the quality of something?Fine but don't try to be a elitist faggot who genuinely thinks that his opinion is hot shit.
That said,what's considered good or bad is subjective because what's good for someone can be total shit for other people.
I can shout billions of arguments but i'll never prove that Dark side of the moon is better than the last Katy perry album,because in the opinion of someone all the things that i said about DSOTM being good is exactly what makes bad for him and i cannot prove that my viewpoint is more valid than his.Also,the logic behind the explanation of ''why X is better than Y'' is purely based on personal perspective and experiences,even if we try to reach a objectively conclusion that conclusion will mostly likely be flawed because our personal perspective will always be tied with our logic reasoning.
For anyone who is thinking about replying to this with the strawmen shit of ''well,you can't prove anything!In any area of knowledge'',go fuck yourself.i'm not gonna bother explaining why this is stupid.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss the quality or flaws in a anime/show(or anything) to reach a logical conclusion,what we shouldn't do is label the opinion of someone who likes that something as objectively shit,this is especially truth for shows that are universally loved like Death note because you're also going against the common sense.
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>>122856208
Please elaborate
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>>122856121
I'm from /k/, Production I.G. wins.
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>>122856707
> what we shouldn't do is label the opinion of someone who likes that something as objectively shit
It's not objectively shit. It's still shit, though. Just like liking something is subjective, thinking your opinion is shit is subjective.
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>>122857028
The way you say is what changes the meaning of the sentence
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>>122857169
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you just said.
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>>122856813
Not that anon, but Sunrise has 11 internal numbered studios, plus DID the CGI Studio, and Nerima (which i think is getting disolved) all in house.
I'm not sure how many madhouse has if it even has any
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>>122856121
im from /b/ and gainax wins cause FLCL is lol sorandum just like/b/
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