Tank vs Mech

>>122684229
Stealth bomber >Jet fighter >Helicopters >Tank >Mechs

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>>122684359
>Stealth bomber >Jet fighter
how does that even work

>>122684359
nuke trump all

Tanks are largely irrelevant in modern combat and I would imagine mechs would be the same.

>>122684469
Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

power armor>tank>mech

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Why not both

In terms of mobility - helicopters are better.
In terms of durability - tanks ae better.

The only walkers You'll probably ever see used by the military are ones like BigDog or WildCat. And they will be used stictly for logistics for infantry.

Probably, because with the advancement of military grade servo systems for infantry, those mechies will become obsolete as well.

"realistically" mech for urban warfare. Basically powered armor or mini walker.

Tank for open field.

This thread again?

notto disu shitto agen

Tanks can actually seek cover if they need it, mechs are just fucked if they need to get out of enemy fire.

>>122684229
The stick wins.

>>122684659
Mechs that are not exoskeletons but "cockpit with limbs" are shit for urban warfare. Tanks have lower profile and can move through solid wreckage (cars etc) easier than huge bipedal walkers

I think we should all agree chthulu is the best

>>122684659

You are fucking retarded.
They are not "basically" powered armos, they are "basically" supreme gyroscope mechanism with armor and guns. And it will take FUCKING long time to get to the point we could actually make one.

Also you are double fucking retarded if you think they would serve better than tanks in urban warfare. One blow to the leg with any kind of HE weapon would render your precious mini walker useless untill the extraction team arrives.

>>122684229
Mechs are simply so japanese people can have honorable nippon swordfights in settings where they don't make sense, like space or a modern battlefield, as well as letting them stroke their huge cultural boner for robots

they would be useless compared to tanks

>>122684659
>walker glomping through streets
>turns corner
>gets blown up by tank

All a tank crew would have to do is lower their helm and charge into the walker's legs.

>>122684659
>"realistically" mech for urban warfare.
have fun avoiding missile launchers from every window frame

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>>122684469
what the fuck am I reading

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>>122684573
This

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>>122684573

Anyone have that high-speed drifting tanks chase webm/gif?

>>122684229
Mech can be fucked and waifu'd

Would you fuck a tank?

>>122684852
>Would you fuck a tank?

Is that a dare, because I have a military base nearby.

>>122684229

Almost any mech would collapse under its own weight or use up so much energy it would be more efficient to use rockets

>>122684870
What happens if you're caught trying to fuck a tank?

>>122684852

One of the Bolo stories had the Bolo Mk Whatever (super future tank which can take on entire armies by itself) fall in love with her human pilot.

>>122684852
>>122684870
Would you stick your dick in a tank's gun?

Bonus points if you cum and it fires simultaneously.

>>122684894

It would be very painful.

>for you

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>>122684229

>>122684910
Wouldn't it be gay trying to stick it in the tank's gun since it's like fucking a dick girl's dick?

>>122684229
Mechs only wins in fiction because they are somehow more durable and better armed than tanks (or other vehicles) while they shouldn't have that advantige explusevly

>>122684957
Fucking a futa's dick is gay now?

What the fuck /a/? Since when?!

What mechfags want: hueg mech 5+ meters tall.
What really happening: tanks getting as low profile as possible and getting unmanned turret because it's most likely target since it's so high above ground.

>>122684993
Does that futa have balls?

It depends, are Minovsky physics present?

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>>122684458
Little girls trump all

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>>122684229
>The entire arsenal of Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles with multiple nuclear warheads targeting highest densely populated urban centers.
>everything else
Y'all motherfuckers don't know about the Dead Hand.

>>122685017
Why the hell you want the futa have balls, that's like higher level gay or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4b-haPATmI

What would win in a fight, a mech with a katana, a tank that shoots katanas, or an airplane with katanas for propellers?

>>122685173
A nuclear missile with a payload of fission based katanas

>>122685200
What if the katana plane is folded over more times that the nuclear explosions?

>>122684458
a nuclear-capable walking tank?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank
>It is frequently claimed that Richard Lovell Edgeworth created a caterpillar track. It is true that in 1770 he patented a "machine, that should carry and lay down its own road", but this was Edgeworth's choice of words. His own account in his autobiography is of a horse-drawn wooden carriage on eight retractable legs, capable of lifting itself over high walls.

Imagine, that it somehow could go the other way if tracks for some weird reason weren't invented at all. then in that world full of mechs someone inverting it, and country producing army of tanks that takes over the world. And then the high schooler Lelouch...

If mechs cant fly they arent worth shit

>>122685231
With nuclear engine. Probably remotely controlled or driven by kamikaze.

>>122685231
STANDING

>>122685280
Nah it should have an emancipated AI just for gags

>>122685226
Bullshit won't work because nuclear power makes every better and stronger. Superior nippon steel that has been exposed to radiation and the sciences of thermonuclear fusion will make it stronger then it could even hope to achieve by conventional means.

>>122685231
METAL GEAR?

>>122685079
What the fact that it isn't real?

>>122685321
Then country of production would be in danger too. Now, if it was some megalomaniac with group of mad scientists...

>>122685397
i have never played metal gear
Dont forget the cuckold in a wheelchair

What's the benefits of having a mech anyway? Balance is a huge problem when it comes to walking robots/vehicles. So why would anyone want to pilot something that could be immobilized if it stepped on a car or giant banana peel?

>>122685397
>>122685420
"Mein Führer, I can walk!"

>>122685527
Minovsky Particles.

Orbital Combat

Duck & Cover tactics

>>122685527
first of all it looks damn cool
second of all it probably would have most benefits being in a human form brings.

>>122685532
>Mein Führer, I can walk
Based as fuck.

>>122685527
>Balance is a huge problem when it comes to walking robots/vehicles.
It's not a big problem even today with current technologies.

>>122684883

Not to mention any number of tanks in an equivalent measure of weight to that of a single mech will almost always be superior in firepower. Mechs are literally just expensive weapons platforms that perform poorly in almost every way except punching.

>>122684229
Once war reaches a point where they start using massive starships everything on the ground will be pretty much made redundant because all you would need to do is bombard the planet from orbit or by throwing asteroids at the said planet.. Easy modo war with minimal losses on the winning side.

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>>122684229
Mech meet Colony drop

>>122685676
You still can find yourself in situation where orbital kinetic strikes would be not an option.

>>122685718
Reverse webm search when?

>>122685823
Its from gundam you mong
Whe the newtype scum destroy based australia to declare war, beginning the whole debacle

>>122685823
You can search the thumbnail

>>122685718
>How to deal with an Australian.

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>>122685631
But it is. You have to design the whole motion of walking. around making sure the center of mass doesn't leave a specified region. That's why it's usually a big deal when a robot like HPR-4 is able to walk, run or copy any other human physical movements. Its doable with today's tech, but it's far from not a big deal.

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mechs all the way
step aside tread-based vehicles.

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>>122685718
NEWTYPES GO HOME

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>Majority of mecha in anime are driven by pure fucking magic

>Hurr Durr, muh reality

These are the worst threads, can't you at least keep them in /m/ if you want to fight over trivial shit?

No one of you have idea of how actual war works, battles where modern tanks face each other within 500 meters of distance are rare, tanks are designed to hit targets thousands of meters away and keep the enemy at margin, same with ships and planes, a mecha, if created in this world, would follow suit in that attack style and the idea is not so unpractical because it's big size allows for more potent weaponry and on a higher number, so a mecha would obliterate a tank, but it would be just a tank with multiple legs and whatever extra limbs it need to carry on the porpouse and scenery it was designed to fight on

>>122686053

Legged vehicles are taller than tanks.

Legged vehicles can't deal with recoil as well as tanks. Ergo, legged vehicles can't carry guns as big as tanks can.

Conclusion: mecha < tanks, leave your fantasy gundams in your animes.

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>>122686018
these are the same people who you take to pacific rim and complain every 15 seconds that something violate the laws of x and y, and that z would be too heavy for t, and that q cannot work because of h

jesus, fuck these people. insufferably autistic.

>>122685571
>most benefits being in a human form brings.
But the human form doesn't come with any particular benefits for combat.
The human body is built to be capable of a huge array of tasks most of which a military vehicle has no business replicating - like consuming food.

>>122685718
Why did the colony stop?

>>122686053
All you faggots conveniently disregard the idea of applying all that spacefuture magitech to tanks. Take all those alloys and servos and controls and use them to deliver fatter payloads with way less attention to such inconveniences as balance and recoil.

The cases that a mech would be better than a tank are so rare that it would be a significant waste of resources to research, develop, maintain, train crew for, and store the mechs. In fact I have significant difficulty thinking of a single case in which a mech would be preferable to a tank.

>>122686099
With bigger size recoil loses it's effect, sturdy and big hind limbs to keep balance and stability, long and not so sturdy frontal limbs to change direction and elevation of the body to allow the mecha shot missiles or give more reach to mortars.

>>122686220
Then tank and mecha would become one

the only reason to have legs rather than tracks is maneuverability over rough terrain. this can usually be side-stepped (pun intended) by strategy and a combination of flying and track vehicles. there really is no need for a big mech

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>>122684229

now tracks do have a weakness, they get stuck and need to be cleaned or replaced frequently. perhaps we will see many legs or different wheels replace tracks, but I just can't see how having only 2 legs would be an improvement.

>>122684993
>/a/
I though I was on /m/ until this post

>>122686408
It can be an improvement only if the mecha is air-based-combat, it could land easier on irregular terrain.

Reverse-joint bipeds > *

>>122686053
>tanks are designed to hit targets thousands of meters away and keep the enemy at margin
Even the Tigers in WWII?

>>122686586
have some googling, free of charge

Moreover, the main armament of the Tiger II was capable of knocking out any Allied tank frontally at ranges exceeding 2.5 kilometres (1.6 mi), beyond the effective range of Allied tank guns

>>122686632
Sorry, I'm no /k/ dork. I just remember reking people with it in Company of Heroes, even at close range.

But now that I actually remember, what about the Crocodile Sherman? Was it flame-throwing the enemy from kilometers away?

Mech which are shaped like humans are inherently bad.

The ideal mech would be a spider, with each arm capable of holding something.

>>122686735
me neither man I just typed tiger tank into wikipedia. you seem to know more than me, you're just lazy or you think dumb questions is good conversation.
>remembers thread topic
nevermind

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>tanks

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>>122687001
These Japs are crazy

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>>122685231

>>122687001
>All those bizzro pallet

Good luck in finding a hiding spot.

>>122685900
STOP THE COLONIES
TURN BACK THE COLONIES
SEND THE NEWTYPES BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM

>>122685718
That's one way of dealing with Australia.

Does anyone else just really not like mechs but feel like they should? Giant robots fighting sounds great but every mech Anime I watch I give up half way through because I feel like it is total shit. The mech related stuff I liked was Metal Gear Solid.Pacific rim was ok but fell to the same problem like every giant monster movie, fucking human drama.

giant mecha can be feasible if it had an exceptional power supply, like nuclear fusion

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>>122687494
I know the exact feeling. I love mecha conceptually but almost nothing scratches the itch. Patlabor does a pretty great job, and the recent Knights of Sidonia adaption really nailed the harsh industrial look of the guardians

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What if the mecha is intended to fill a different combat niche to a tank? Like, say, fighter aircraft?

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>>122685823
>search
Why don't you just read the fileheaders?

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>>122687727
A helicopter could do the same job as a TSF, but better.

>>122687727
What is this?

>>122687841
TSF Monogatari

>>122687573
why not just use the reactor on a supertank?

>>122687573
Fusion is bulky, due to the low density of the plasma and the magnetic confinement needed. Fission reactors can be crammed into a much smaller form factor.

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>>122685347

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>>122687860
You pretty much just described Heavy Object.

Where the giant mecha are more like supertanks than Gundams, and are really just a method of weaponizing the apparently astronomical energy output of the magical MHD reactor.

The technologies used in them probably could be scaled down and used in less ridiculous weapons platforms, but they wouldn't have the energy input of a miniature sun behind them, so the railguns and the coilguns wouldn't fire as powerfully, the lasers wouldn't be as intense, the plasma guns wouldn't fire as fast, and so on.

The super magical composite armor they use could also be put on tanks and warships, but tanks and warships wouldn't justify the cost of the armor, only the need to protect the magic power plant at all costs would justify it.

The lasers, railguns, plasma guns, onion armor, and all the fancy shit that goes into an Object are just the means to an end, to take the energy produced by the reactor and turn it into a form that will kill people you don't like.

>>122687815
>lazorzed off the sky
laughingBETA.webm

>>122687960
A helicopter is much shorter than a TSF. Thanks to its height of 20m the lowest a TSF could ever possibly hope to go is 20m. A chopper can fly lower than a TSF's 20m. Therefore a chopper can hug the earth and take cover from lasers better than a TSF. For the cost of one TSF you could field a hundred choppers.

>>122687891
Look up Lockheed Martin in november-december news.

>>122687891
Lockheed Martin has been claiming they'll be able to make fusion reactors small enough to fit in shipping containers within a couple decades.

>>122687573
Then you use that same technology on a tank and the tank is better again.

>>122688021
I'm aware of their research, and a few other alternative designs. But until that stuff has been peer-reviewed and independent prototypes have been designed and tested I remain sceptical.

Commercial fusion has been 20 years away for the last 50 years.

>>122688021
>>122688097
Lockheed Martin more like lock weed madness

>>122688097
see >>122688120

>>122687775
Not the anon you responded to, but I'm interested.

How do you do this?

>>122688224
ccd0's 4chanX

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>>122688224
Download the webbum
Open in MPC-HC
Check info

>>122687494
Mecha anime often has way too little focus on the actual Mecha.

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>>122688114

>>122687573
YOU JUST NEED SAKURADITE

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Mechas would probably be completely useless in a real life situation, but I suggest that every army in the world agree on replacing tanks with them just because they're fucking cool.

>>122689478
Why not combination of both, like in SnW? It's far more practical than mechs.

A mech is a tank OP. It's a tank designed to go over terrain a tank can not go over.
>>122689478
A mech wouldn't be useless, as stated above, giving it legs would allow it to traverse certain types of terrain treads and wheels can have problems on.

I would agree though that as the Militaries of the world transition to Air Superiority and eventually guided laser systems, that tanks/mechs will become rather useless.

>>122687775
Not that guy but wow, I've been using 4chan X and been making webms for a while but I never noticed this feature.

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But Tanks>Mechs.

>>122689578
got added a month ago or so

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>>122689545
>SnW

In order to power the legs they would probably run out of fuel way faster than a normal tank which would be pretty impractical unless you had a nuclear reactor or some bullshit. Plus I imagine the legs would take damage pretty quickly. Maybe it would work in urban warfare but traditional tanks still are better in wide open spaces.

In any case it seems like the saving grace of the Takemikazuchi is its speed so ideally it would be extremely useful for operations where you go in and get out quickly without sustaining too much damage.

Still if the enemies had any type of homing weapon they could cripple it easily by destroying a leg.

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Mechs only make sense for space combat and exploration
Knights of sidonia does mechs really well, with all the material gatering, insanely massive and high speed combat, the clasp formations, their desperate need for acrobatic combat, etc

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>>122688460
>titan
fuck youuu

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>>122689734
I agree completely. I love the fact that most of their gardes can't even enter atmosphere or gravity or else they simply collapse.
Of course they have the super-special prototype that can though.

That said the only mecha I can see working are mini-mecha or walkers with high mobility.
Basically the Gekko and Mini-MG from MGS, since they are essentially just armored weapons platforms.

>>122685231
Kojima pls.

>>122689734
I hate that the hero Guardians are getting to Gundam levels of special snowflake and borderline super robot abilities. Give us back the Type 17, dammit.

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Behold, the world greatest tank.

>>122684229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcN7Ww_d2-A

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>>122689694
If it works like the designs in the anime then it fits perfectly with urban warfare with climbing up and over buildings and shit. Normal Tanks just can't match that kind of versatility.

>>122691106
Nah, the Crocodile Sherman is better.

>>122693051
>If it works like the designs in the anime

That's a big if.

ITT: a bunch of people that don't know anything about anything talking as if they know something

>>122685676
You have no fucking idea about the logistics necessary for that kind of shit.

>>122686783
Spiderbots are even more a thing of fantasy than bipeds.

>>122689734
Cilinders are better for that. Humanity will never traverse space without super-technology.

>>122684409
By flying higher than jet fighter normal altitude i guess.
Orbital bombing is a thing now.

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>>122685823
>He doesn't recognize the most iconic scene in all of mecha anime

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>>122685823

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>tfw I'll never get to pile-bunker niggas with my giant robot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhPmmxZQHe0

>>122693051
Wouldn't you just want a UAV then? Walkers fill end up just doing the same thing as tanks but worse. Anyway in an urban environment don't you just want an overwhelming force of mechanized infantry? As in grunts+APCs

>>122689734
I think it's funny how in Sidonia they mix one of the most practical weapons (big fucking chunk of the ship accelerated to incredible speed) and impractical (mechs)

Wouldn't the ideal weapon just be successive cluster projectiles attached to engines? They would shred anything in a large area and also not risk any lives

>>122695428
Projectiles are worthless against Gauna.

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>>122684229
The tanks will win if they have teenage girls in them. Otherwise, its simply a question of armor/artillery. Since you can realistically mount more of that on a tank, the tank would most likely prevail.

>>122695528
I mean't if they used something like what they use for the Kabi machine gun

>>122695712
Kabi are in limited supply.

I thing the only mechs that would stand a fighting chance would be quadrupedal.

Firing stability is another shortcoming of the mech idea.

Tanks always win

>>122694842
>4chan

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>>122684799
My nigger

>>122686211
It didn't stop, it's just a slow motion effect as the fireball expands. Otherwise the screen would just go white at the moment of impact.

What is acceleration of tank in forward/backward/sideways direction?

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>>122696063
Depend on driver.

>>122696329
funny thing is that modern tanks CAN turn like that at speed

>>122696063
Tanks can go fast no problem. Fuck this thread for talking about military applications of something that doesn't exist in any form but experimental while using nothing but conjecture and "I pulled this shit out of my ass" tier arguments.

>>122696515
I mean how fast can tank go from stopped to "really fast" in any direction?

Ask any engineer or any military advisor- some of you should have a military family member, right?

It's all about job roles, right? Every tool of war has it's purpose, and the 'typical' mecha is enormous. It's profile is just too goddamn large, which makes it a sitting duck for anybody with an RPG or some man portable missle.

Congratulations, you've created a large weapon platform that's entirely too tall, too big, too slow.

Plus, what would a mech's job role be?

You would have to reduce mecha sizes so much to make them more efficient, to maybe 10-12 feet at the TALLEST, and make them essentially infantry heavy weapons support platforms.

All of which would probably be able to be done with quadrupedal mobility and more firing stability.

I mean,at best, we're just getting powered armor for firing support.

Big, bulky powered armor that's immune to conventional ammunition, used for heavy weapons. Tanks are still gonna be too useful for the platform to be replaced.

>>122684746
niceme.me

>>122696696
>Plus, what would a mech's job role be?
Original purpose was "humanity FUCK YEAH" so I guess this.

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In what category does this fall?

>>122696881
Super-technology so the form is pretty much irrelevant.

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>>122696881
It's a walking eye!

>>122696696
>too slow
Thats wrong.
Mecha are usually extremely fast and agile. They can change directions on the dime. Also, they can jump fast, high and can change direction mid-flight.

>>122697174
Anime say so, right?

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>>122684469

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T A N K M E C H S

>>122697328

Why was ACV so dissapointing? It was one thing to lose my sanic fast addiction from AC:FA, but come on man.

I would rather play AC4 instead and just tie the noose.

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>>122684705
use it next time

>>122697540
Because they wanted to experiment with Armored Core. Personally I didn't mind V/VD, as a MP game I think its pretty good.

I do miss FA though. Nothing beats flying around dodging dozens of missiles locked on to you.

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>>122695428
One spider tank on a building could probably take out a squad pretty easily. Tanks couldn't shoot them without being on a hill themselves since they would be too high up to aim at. They can also jump so they could easily jump between buildings as well.
Of course this is only going by what was shown in the anime, with real tech it would be a lot harder to implement.

>>122697174
ANIME mecha, are fast and agile.
But not always.

Remember the original Gundam series?
The original Gundam was slow, and so were Zaku's. Physics, man, something so big turning incredibly fast means massive g-force stresses on it's structure from different angles as rapid changes would be ridiculous.

>>122697799
>massive g-force stresses on it's structure
Carbon fibers

>>122690699
it's strange since they cycle through those mechs every fight. And the mechs themselves are looking stranger and stranger.

I like it since the mechs reflect the speed at which the gauna are also getting stronger. And they all kinda retain the original guardian shape, too.

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>>122697799
Wanzers, nigga, 5 meters tall max unless they're physics defying bullshit like the FM4 Gepard series, the Raven series or the T1-Brutal Wolf, usually pretty stocky with as low of a profile a 5 meter tall machine can manage. Ignore mobile weapons like the Zhuk, Bogomol or Kouten-types.

>>122697540
Because shitty as fuck single-player. I miss when games didn't rely on multi-player to be fun.

>>122684469
Tanks are useful for smashing through enemy lines to collapse their rear, but you're right we haven't seen clear battle lines since WW2 so they're almost irrelevant.

Assuming though that a conventional war is being waged between two modern nations then they would enjoy the same role they did during WW2. However even back then they still had to work with a group of mechanized infantry to secure the territory, and now we have helicopters and CAS aircraft that make it so a tank is no longer the strongest opponent on the battlefield.

Really though in conventional warfare mechs are worthless becuase of the logistics needed to just get them onto the battlefield would make them impractical.

>>122697780
Okay assuming that a spider tank is somehow circumventing the problem that the cock pit would be like a washing machine and it wouldn't somehow smash through buildings as it it jumped from one to another, what does it bring to the table that a squad of infantry with heavy weaponry doesn't?

>>122697866
lol wut

>>122698354
>what does it bring to the table that a squad of infantry with heavy weaponry doesn't
Being armoured protecting the occupants inside from normal fire and even some protection from heavy weapons.

>>122684799
Too bad second Supreme was as bad as Forged Alliance.

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>>122691106
shit taste

>>122687727
>>122687815
>>122687960

Anti-gravity tanks > EVERYTHING

It's basically a space ship at that point.

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/ak/ thread?

And no one mentions Battletech or 40k?

>>122698455
> SupCom 2 and Forged Alliance
> Both equally bad

Nigga, what kind of weed and alcohol were you taking?

Or are you baiting here?

Either way FA>SupCom>UNIVERSE SIZED SHIT>SupCom2

>>122698428
The problem with tanks is that things have changed in world warfare. We're no longer dealing with symmetrical, directly opposed forces and clear cut battle-lines.We're in the age of asymmetrical guerrilla warfare , and tanks arent very useful in those roles.

When we create bipedal/quadrupedal combat drones meant for ground combat we can sacrifice without qualms- we once again seize the initiative.

It's gonna be a fantastic day. They'll be willing to die, and we wont care if they do. It'll be amazing. The only reason enemies stand a chance is because for every ONE soldier we lose, people back home take it very hard, and support for war goes down insanely.

Drones will fix it.
Oh no! They took out Drone #46? Just send out ten more and reinforce that zone.

>>122698282
The only minus I can tell about FM5 is the way you earn cash when off battle.

FUCKING ATROCIOUS!!

And you are not in control of your Wanzer of choice. What the fuck!?

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>>122699001
Do you want to grind in the arena manually? As is early game you can just grind up 500k in the arena after mission 4 and never worry about money for the rest of the game. Same with RP once you first get access to the survival sim. Grinding RP to get my rank 1 hard mode sim gear up to snuff once in Alaska is a pain in the ass.

>>122698562
>muh HESH

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>>122687905

Really needs the sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMoeDM8POZk

>>122687727
Tw only thin they could do better than anything we have currently is boarding a space faring vessel.
They wouldn't really be a mech at that point though: just a slightly larger than normal Exo skeleton.

>>122699102
I'd rather manually grind to the pain like in FM4 instead to let the AI to take over the controls and do the duelling on the areas for me.

Sometimes a unit simply did shitty things that I would never do.

Even more infuriating that instead of going in for the killing blow, the darn idiot AI goes a couple of tiles close, but never into firing range, only for that Wanzer with the huge-ass minigun I damaged to the point of nearly destroying to roll close and open a hailstorm right into my cockpit.

>>122698886
Why would they need to be bipedal/quadrupedal?

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>>122699463
Meh, I managed to earn 8k per fight in the arena while doing a 2 vs 1 with Walter in rank 4 Frost parts+ rank 4 Raptor machinegun, lategame you have acces to stuff like the Vyzov and the Grapple along with Hard mode Survival sim stuff like the Grille Sechs H, the Zeniths or Desmatz so dying horribly rarely happens anymore in the arena.

>>122698886
The problem with that becomes hat happens when they capture a village.
What do the drones do?
Also, combat AI...grand idea.
We would have to go and make it so people can pilot these things remotely.

Now, the next problem: will said war ever actually end?
I mean, if its two countries against each other, both having these drones, why do you care if the war ends?
People are still going to die in the crossfire. A bomb isn't a precision instrument, and an infantry battalion is easily destroyed by a bomb being dropped on them.
That said, people will simply make airplanes/drones capable of dropping bigger and more destructive bombs.
If the fighting takes to the city, this means that there will be a huge amount of casualties, without anyone ever thinking to surrender because the losses are too heavy.
Wars will simply rage on, and civilians will be hurt as a result.
Humans need to stay in war to keep wars short and semi-clean.

>>122699664
Resources nigga, you need resources to build those things.

>>122699638
Problem is I did it to earn cash for extra Wanzer customisation.

Problem is that you know what to do in order to earn cash in the arenas. And the AI ain't helping here.

Yeah. Since then I was done playing FM5, but now I'm thinking on going back to it.

I could see mechs being used as a sort of "mobile hospital". If troops were on like a mountain or something.

>>122699831
Remeber to do all your arena grinding pre-mission 5 and remember to do all your RP grinding once you first get access to the Survial simulator, use Legaia's faq on gamefaqs to check on the extra RP/wanzer parts you can get along with how to recruit Darril, play Hard-Mode and don't abuse the fact that you can upgrade everything to Rank12 because it defeats the point of playing Hard mode.
Shame Launchers as a class are still useless along with low-level Jammers, that's one part of the game they didn't manage to fix.

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>>122699664
>I fear that the era of the soulless weapons called mobile dolls, in other words, the era that the Romefeller Foundation is creating, may become an embarassment to the people of the future.

>>122699664
I think that he was talking about it was modern countries going into rural backwaters and fighting militias while extracting oil or some other raw material

In this case though you would just have resources extraction drones with a few combat drones guarding them. Imagine that we didn't even bother invading and instead Exxon just sends in their drone crews after paying off the government

In the case of actual open warfare between two modern military forces then you would probably have mechanized infantry with combat drones supporting them along with the regular assortment of armor/aircraft you would see in a conventional war

>>122700028
OK, I'll remember that.

>>122700084
Missing Darril and the Vyzov hurt my soul when I played normal mode, you'll also fail to unlock theSchakal, Warlus and Scintilla wanzer lines if you don't know the exact way how to get them.

Walkers triumph all

>>122700181
Yeah. This kind of stuff is actually painful in certain games. Not only in FM.

Infinite Space also has something like that and sweet merciful...some of the things are painful if you miss them (like certain crew members, new stuff for your ships, new ships and so on).

It's as if the creators thought of it as a way for the player to play said games multiple times.

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Every /ak/ thread forever.

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>>122700319
No, don't remind me, there were some things that even after multiple playthorughs you wouldn't get unless you had OCD and the patience of a god.

>>122700439
Darn me if these kind of things aren't a pain in the arse.

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>>122698886
You wouldn't want legs on a "disposable" combats drone. They're good for rough terrain but also overly expensive, complicated, and slow compared to wheels or treads.

>>122700401
>that pinky

Holy shit I never noticed

>>122700595
Why not a face-hugger-esque land mine that moves ridiculously fast and jumps on a person's face in order to detonate violently?

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>>122684229

How has this not been posted yet?

>>122700711
>zekes
When will they learn?

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The idea of anti-armor infantry is really really cool and its a damn shame there is so little of it in anime.

>>122700695
magnetic mines are cheaper and do a better job.