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Anime Cannot Into Horror.

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There are great series and movies for every genre but the one that skips this is horror.

Literally there are no good horror anime and the only one that comes close to the horror genre that is good might be Monster.

There is not a single one that is actually scary.
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>>121869360
Also the shitty attempt that is Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu is not scary in the least either.
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>>121869360
Because horror is a shit genre.
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Boogiepop Phantom isn't scary but I think it works well as an atmospheric horror, which is the best kind of horror anyways.
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And just how the fuck do you making something animated and colorful like anime into horror retard?
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>>121869416
The only thing horror about that is the horrible animation.
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plenty of konaka shows have had horror elements
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>>121869452
looks like a well fed shinji, that in itself is horror
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can western animation do horror either?

animation in general just isn't "real" enough to be very scary/unsettling
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>>121869447
>How do you make anything that are just textures on 3d models horrible in video games

gee I dunno through good plot and cinematography
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There is plenty of good manga though.
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>>121869468
I also look like a well fed Shinji.
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>>121869486
what does videogames have to do with this?
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>>121869360
yami shibai
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>>121869542
that a medium does not have to be in film to have horror and that there must be an anime out there that is actually scary and if not why because coloring has little to do with it.
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>>121869360
Yeah, you're right. You're going to have to read manga if you're looking for some good horror.

>>121869409
Kiseijuu isn't supposed to be scary.
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>>121869556
^
Done really well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npO10vOOSGI
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The Sci;Adv series legitimately had some tense-spooky moments in it, like when Okabe gets that text or when Kai is hunting around that abandoned building that Airi was in.
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>>121869586
>if not why
There's little demand for horror anime.
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>animated stuff are not as scary as realistic looking one in real movies
Gee, who could have thought.

Fuck off.
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>>121869360
>thinly-veiled recommendation thread
Nope.
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>>121869663
Not much good for anything if it can't convey fear or horror. Must really be for kids.
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>>121869700
plenty of anime have done perfectly fine horror scenes, it just appears that there's not much of a demand for a pure horror anime. sucks since I would watch it if it existed but that's just the way it is
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>>121869700
The horror genre itself is a piece of shit genius. They all rely on jump scares now rather than pacing
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Have you even watched Shoujo Tsubaki?
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>>121869818
>I only watch action movies and jerk off while posting objectively wrong opinions

I think you need to head back to your special needs class
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>>121869654
Holy fuck, the part where Okabe gets the text in the supermarket was actually legitimately freaky. The combination of suspense alongside motherfuckin' fear of the unknown was perfect.

but yeah that's really the only spooky anime scene I can think of
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>>121869857
He's not wrong though. Straight up horror is usually really shit and relies on stuff like that to scare people. Going off of western films there's only a handful of good/decent ones and the rest are just shitty and unoriginal. As far as I know there aren't many good horror anime but they seem to do thriller/mystery/supernatural type stuff with horror elements pretty well like >>121869878 mentioned
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>>121869360
Watch Pupa
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>>121869526
God fuck damn shit cock motherfucking cunt bitch hell. Why did I open that. I can't unsee that. This is freaking me out anon. Fuck you. This is why I don't read horror manga.
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>>121869360
If you go in without knowing anything about it, Higurashi is pretty fucking scary the first time you watch it. Specially the first time you see Rena going yan.

As for manga, Fuan no Tane does horror better than most things in any medium.
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>>121869956
Rena going yan turned me on
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Higurashi?
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>>121869986
I don't believe it.

When she's knocking on Keiichi's door going uso da I had to turn the lights on.
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>>121870026
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>>121869654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARM9aIdJ9bI
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>>121869360
>Nechronica: The Long, Long Sequel

Give this some time and attention. Nechronica is a DnD-like game where you play as zombie lolis after the apocalypse has already happened. Lots of room for creativity and story shit. Read the guide if you want to know more:
http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=Nechronica

Hopefully, if people catch onto it, which they probably won't because it's "too loli-guro-ish," or whatever. However, if it gets enough of a fanbase, fanart, and other bullshit, it just may lead into a series or even a new era in the horror genera.

Still, it gives me the vibes of something like Corpse Party, except with way, way more potential for stories because that's essentially what it was created to do.

Art:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=nagai_gojitsudan_no_nechronica
http://unicaschamber.web.fc2.com/gallery.html
(I hate this site, but...) http://megrim-haruyo.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0
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You guys are shitlords you obviously have never heard of Elfen Lied.
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Classic
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>>121870071
0/10
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>>121870009
The first arc was pretty good, you could really feel the paranoia
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>>121870062
>it's "too loli-guro-ish," or whatever
Isn't that exactly what it is?
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>>121870062
>Hyperdimension Nechronica

I can get behind this.
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>>121870062
neat, will look at it
>>121870071
Saw first few episodes and got turned off at how cheesy it was, how can anyone like that.
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>>121870124
>how can anyone like that
well, you see, when you're 13 years of age...
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>>121869956
Been a while since my last dose of Tane
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>>121869360
>These new generation plebs who confuse fear for horror validating the jumpscare and gore trends of modern horror.
The fuck out my genre with your shit opinions. If you want to be mindlessly scared, go play in traffic.
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>>121870103
Yeah, had a friend of mine tell me that. I absolutely love the concept and I'm thinking of doing some character designs based around it. I'm just hoping that it can get around so people at least know about it.
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>>121870148
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Ghost Slide was pretty damn spooky.
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>>121869956
>>121870026
I don't know if you guys are being serious or not. Higurashi wasn't even a little scary. It was damn near comical.
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>>121870168
Go tell /tg/.

Though meh, they'll most likely hate it- Too "magical realm" for them.
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>>121870009
I think I would have loved Higurashi if it didn't reboot the atmosphere every few episodes.

The fanservice driven slice of life episodes were just increasingly awkward after the traumatic reveal in the first story arc.
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>>121870172
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>>121870166
See, this is what's wrong with people. This is why things like Silent Hill stay pretty niche. Subtle horror where the scares are done right and jump scares/gore are conservatively used are almost always the best.

It's about the fear of something happening, not something happening. And when something does happen, it had better be fucking shocking.
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>>121870188
>*tips fedora*
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>>121870183
>Ghost Slide
Fuck you.

Having nightmares tonight as well...
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>>121870190
There was a normal-sized thread for it on /tg/ earlier this week. I wanted to bring it up to /a/ because I thought that the concept, the artwork, and the story have some serious potential.
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What about Yami Shibai?

It's hit and miss but sometimes delivers some pretty good stories.
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>>121869360
Try Betterman.
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>>121870009
it was more of a thriller than a horror series for me
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>>121870188
There's a thin line between horror and comedy.
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Junji Ito's always a good choice for horror, but I do wish there were a lot more writers on his tier, but with different styles.
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>>121870142
>when you're 13 years of age

Let's face it. The vast majority of us got into this shit through some of the corniest anime in history.
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>>121869526
Plenty of manga but just a few of them getting animated. I guess no one is really buying them.
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I recommend some Satoshi Kon. Perfect Blue, if you're looking for a thriller.

Paranoia Agent if you're up for something weird.

>>121870204
Agreed. It's a shame when good psychological stories get overlooked for noisy gore-fests.
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>>121870373
I hope you're not implying that GASHUNK was good horror.
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>>121870324
Speak for yourself.

I was immersed in the animus from the youngest of childhoods.

It's a good thing the west is retarded and went for a long time saying how "japanese cartoons are all satanic". Otherwise I wouldn't have known that my favorite ones, from Mazinger to Speed Racer to Dragon Ball and Saint Seiya to Slam Dunk and more, were from japan.
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Real horror needs 3D lighting.
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>>121870390
It was actually more of a comedy to me.
Just giving an animated example.
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>>121869360

YOu want something scary, look at taxes.
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>>121870193
Some of the manga arcs were illustrated to be terrifically scary, like your example.
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>>121869360
Gigantic Formula chara design is more creepy than any attempt at horror in animu.
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>>121869360
I liked this. It had good atmosphere. Too bad horror manga always gets live actions other than anime.
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Horror is not meant to be screams and jump scares, or showing you ugly monsters and gross violence. That's just a cheap excuse western movies do, because it's easy.
A horror movie is not supposed to try and scare the viewer in the real world - thereby ejecting the viewer from the movie. It needs to build anxiety and be immersive at the same time.

The other thing is, that horror is usually done in movies. You can't expect to keep that up for ling, and can't let the viewer stand up after 20 minutes, and try to get the same effect one week later for another 20 minutes.
Because anime is mostly series, it will never be completely horror, it will have horror elements at most. When anime sometimes does it for a scene or episode, it's much better than the western gore and jump scares of the past 10 years.
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>>121869409
they never attempted too baka
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>>121869409
What the fuck are you talking about?
Kiseijuu is competely out of this genre. It's not even trying to be horror.
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What is BakeNeko arc and Mononoke?
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>>121870474
Agreed. That ending scene with that reporter trying to get an interview from Keiichi about what happened to everyone was great.The Footsteps Are Back...

I just wish the mood-whiplash of the build-up was handled differently after it was already obvious that something was wrong with the town.
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>>121870707
Great stuff.
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>>121869944
I think he wanted to be scared by contents not lack of quality.
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Corpse Party.

>inb4 shit tier posting
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>>121870537
>tried reverse image search
>Suspected child abuse content has been removed from this page. Report child abuse content.

oh jesus what
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Ghost Hound anyone? I don't understand why know one ever speaks about this in horror threads. Though the ending didn't fit to the whole series, the overall atmosphere was great.

>dat abandoned mall ep
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LMAO @ all those niggers confusing horror and thrillers.

Horror is supposed to gross you out so much it scares you. How are you gonna be grossed out by "immersiveness" and "tension"?
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>>121871392
I liked it for many reasons, but the horror wasn't one.
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>>121870707
it's pretty colors and pretty character designs in a really comfy atmosphere.

Not trying to belittle it, but it ain't horror.
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Maybe it's just impossible to achieve, With certain restrictions in I doubt they can go to far with killings and such so they have to dumb it down.

I mean who picks up anime to watch a good horror anyway.
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>>121871418
>Horror is supposed to gross you out so much it scares you.
Go read Lovecraft.
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>>121871418
>LMAO @
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>>121871454
No thanks I'll keep it at The Thing, Alien, and old Cronenberg movies.

You know, the stuff "horror elitists" hypocritically hold as the pinnacle of the horror genre.
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Animation can only be creepy.

It can never be scary. Deal with it.

Only way an anime would ever be scary is if you just downloaded an anime and midway. the subs post your real name and starts talking to you in response to to your reaction being called out by the anime.
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>>121869360
>Anime cannot into horror
Once again, perfect blue
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>>121871498
that's not being scared that's just being #NOIDED
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>>121870537
Clicked that image and Nope'd the fuck out. Fuck Alien Greys, they scare the shit out of me.
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>>121871477
The Thing isn't scary because it's gross and neither is Alien. The Thing is held up as a great horror movie because it plays on paranoia and uncertainty, and Alien is held up as a great horror movie because it has one of the most unsettling monster designs in history and plays on isolation and the fear of being hunted. Both movies are heavily Lovecraft influenced by the way, specifically from Mountains of Madness.
Cronenberg literally does body horror, the gross factor is on purpose.

Also see the orginal Halloween, where there's maybe 2 drops of blood in the entire movie, it still scared the shit out of people back in the day.

You don't know anything.
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>>121871580
The Thing and Parasyte play on my greatest fear, that of something unknowable lurking among us, disguised. Although Parasyte doesn't do it as well, but that's only because we get explanations and perspective from the Parasite's side.
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>>121869360
Because animation is less scarier than live action since you are more aware that it is an illusion. And since it isn't interactive like a video game there isn't the same level as immersion.
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Since a great bulk of anime is done in series, a studio is required to provide at least 12 episodes and 5 hours of non-stop thrills. That is very hard to do, thus the spooky things tend to be movies and the series tend to be no more than drama. However if most of these supposed horror series were rehashed as movies they would be praised rather than shunned. Imagine if Hell Girl was an actual demon instead of a waifu.
spoilering pic because it's really bumming me out and I can't tell if it's just me
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>>121870062
It also has traps.
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Some episodes of Mushishi creeped me out. Just the sheer inevitability of some of the things that occurred was scary in its own way.
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>>121869409
>Kiseijuu
>Attempt at being scary

You are fucking stupid.
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>>121871580
Listen to this anon.
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>>121871392
good atmosphere, bad story
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>>121871744
But I love Hell Girl
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>>121872476
Are the later seasons after season 1 worth a watch?
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>>121869360
Horror doesn't sell and being episodic doesn't help
My only memory of having horror suspense feeling from an anime were from some episodes of Shinsekai Yori
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>>121872636
>Horror doesn't sell and being episodic doesn't help
It's really a shame, because the era of AYAOTD, Goosebumps and TFTCrypt allowed for some of the most interesting short writing for live action shows. The acting was never great, but the ideas were pretty solid.

Now we're stuck with a bunch Sitcoms or Dramas where all that keeps the show running is gags or an actor with a face. Not everything's terrible and generic though. While nothing entirely new in of themselves Breaking Bad and GoT allow for some variety.

Anyway what I'm getting at though is I think if Paranoia Agent and Goosebumps could do it then it's not entirely impossible but as you said the time for it being successful enough to bother has come and gone.
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>>121871392
The thing I didn't like about Ghost Hound was the art-style, and it's the only anime I would make that complaint about.
Ghost Hound would have been far more atmospheric and engaging if it had a more realistic style, something like Lain's for example. I felt it seriously detracted from the mood and stopped me from enjoying scenes I felt sure would have been engaging otherwise. Pic related is an example, could have been creepy-surreal instead of ridiculous. Everything else, like the music, was spot on.
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>>121872981
>pic related
Ewww.
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>>121872833
I think an episodic horror anime could work if they picked the right source material.

Personally, I would really like to see a Goosebumps or Tales from the Crypt style anime based on the works on Junji Ito.
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>>121871392
I liked the atmosphere but the story and pacing was so meh overall.
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>>121870567
Monster had some pretty good creepy moments.
Like that one part where Johan is just fucking casually walking down the street in a garden and looks at Tenma looking at him through the binoculars.
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I don't know about anime but reading Fuan No Tane late in the night made me really paranoid about little things
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>Not one mention of Shiki
Really? It's easily the best horror anime out there.

>>121869556
>>121869640
S2 was shit though. They replaced the director and writers and apparently didn't see what could possibly go wrong.
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>>121869409
It's not fucking horror, idiot.
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>>121873189
Hair, Zanbai, and the Tormentor were pretty much god-tier in terms of horror
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>>121870245
This manga was scary enough to make me paranoid for a few days.
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Mononoke?
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>>121873270
It was so good, I wasn't afraid of the dark since I was a kid before I read it, but after I read it, 5 or so years ago, I became afraid of the dark again. Still am.
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There was actually an anime that scared me once, ghost hunt or something if i remember correctly, it involved bathtub and blood if i am not wrong.
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>>121873287
Ayakashi's first part (Oiwa) is pretty good horror, actually.

Ayakashi part 3 (Bakeneko) and Mononoke are damn good, but not as good in the horror department as Oiwa.
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>>121873105
>Monster had some pretty good creepy moments
Monster is one of the creepiest and disturbing anime I've ever seen. I wonder if HBO could do it any justice sine most of their shows are vilence horror.... Carnville was nice though.

Are there any other anime that are similar to Monster?
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>>121873244
And they're all from the first season, yeah. I loved the first season, which just made S2 all the more disappointing.
That said, my favourite episode was The Next Floor.
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>>121873189
Shiki had absolutely great atmosphere and suspense for the first couple of episodes but slowly lost it until the finale just went insane.
A lot time was pointlessly spent with the side character. Those teenagers looking around might have been suspenseful in literature format but watching it was just boring.
And that one stoic motherfucker who doesn't talk and pretends he's so cool assface.
The fact that the anime had to kill him and make him even more special (turning him into a werewolf or whatever it's called when it's apparently insanely rare) just made me hate him more.

That fucking ost though.
It's the only ost that comes close to Higurashi, both the anime and VN, that can be creepy just be listening to it.
Good shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZwnfqt31cE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IY83zVtgIY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyJMHCKsUNg
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>>121872567
yes
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Shiki is great once you get over the ridiculous hair.

>>121873374
I disagree regarding the show's progression. The tone progresses accordingly with the story, and it stays consistently horror throughout. It's just that it changes in the manner that it's presented. In the first half, the horror comes from the unknown, the monsters picking people off and the fear building throughout. In the second half, the fear comes from the known; knowing how now that the cat's out of the bag the scenario is escalating and the insanity is very much a horrific end result of that. It's similar to The Mist, which is just about the only Stephen King story I could stand, where the horrific setting gives way to the horror of humanity rather than inhumanity.

I certainly didn't like the ending, but it did a fine job of continuing to horrify me while telling a mostly decent story.
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>>121873189
Also, the fact that the doctor goes through every scientific process one by one before accepting the supernatural was brilliant.
The fact that the anime didn't show the vampire and left the viewer in the dark about what was causing everyone to die was pretty well done.

>>121873344
Dunno.
I really wonder if they can pull it off it they do it.
Anime is good because animation can do whatever you want it to look at which has a leg over movies/shows in general. Not to mention shading in general makes things much more suspenseful and the HBO show won't have that.

It's funny because a friend of mine refused to watch the Monster in its entirety even though he loves suspense shows and said that it would make for a good live action since it's mostly realistic.
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This caught me so off guard. Scariest sequence I have ever seen.
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>>121873482
I agree with you, I just find that the second part wasn't as suspenseful as the beginning.
I'd have to rewatch it to get a better feel for why I didn't completely like it but I remember it was because of the damn teenagers.

>It's similar to The Mist, which is just about the only Stephen King story I could stand, where the horrific setting gives way to the horror of humanity rather than inhumanity
The Mist was a very good story because the horror within was almost as horrible as the horror outside of the store. It's cliche but it's still pretty good when done right. And that ending...
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>>121873569
>And that ending...
I don't remember how the book ended, but I found the movie's ending incredibly contrived.
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>>121869556
I watched it since /a/ kept raving about it, but it was literally Jump Scare: The Budget Edition, complete with sudden volume changes. The vocaloid ED was also really unfitting.

>>121873189
My favorite spooky scene in Shiki was related picture.
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>>121873604
The movie's ending was different from the book apparently. I think that the people in the car go in the mist and it ends like that.
The movie director didn't like the book's ending and changed it.

Although it's true that the whole ''ahhh come on, if they had just waited a minute it would have been fine. Why did have to do that?'' criticism is valid, it's pretty cool that humanity overcame the apocalypse.
Like, fuck you horror, this is humanity, we're going to fuck you because we will persevere in the end.

I don't really know how else you could have ended that movie.

That ending song though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtQpM6MTugE

That moment the tank comes in, you can just feel it in your heart.
The music at that ending was just perfect, even if the ending was somewhat contrived.
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>>121870245
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>>121873690
>it's pretty cool that humanity overcame the apocalypse.
>Like, fuck you horror, this is humanity, we're going to fuck you because we will persevere in the end.
I dunno man, humanity was fighting, but the ending also showed there was some pretty big shit out there to deal with.
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>>121873691
>>121870245
Can manga achieve horror without resorting to disgusting imagery?
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>>121871580
yes, i am agree with this one. For me, The Thing & Alien is not scary. The reason is, i can "kill" it.
Cannot "kill" is my fear.
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>>121869409
Gore isn't horror, you trisomic
Kiseiju never attempted to be horrorific, the gore aspect is there for a sense of dread, not to make you shit your pants.

But yeah, anime can't into horror unless they actually try to make something less anime-ish.

Watch Yamishibai on Crunchyroll, I don't think narutards fansubbers have tried their hand at it anyway
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>>121873932
>Crunchyroll
no
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>>121873691
After how many times I've seen this, I just noticed she stuck a fish in one of her holes. That's amusing.
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>>121873778
I like it because it's not every day you see humanity just kicking the ass of the unknown.
It's somewhat uplifting.
Everyone would have likely done like the people in the car.
''How can humanity overcome such horrors? The world is fucked, time to just shoot myself.''
Which I always found funny since people have an instinct to survive but lose all hope once they don't see any reason to move on.

And this movie just goes ''fuck your shit, humanity will find a way''.
It's probably what would happen in real life.
I just think people want horror to win more than humanity overcoming the impossible odds for some reason.


>>121873854
Higurashi's manga did horror well without being disgusting.
Though people bitched that it wasn't scary because it wasn't disgusting. Go figure.

>>121873921
The Alien in Alien was scary because you couldn't know if you could kill it.
Hell, you don't even know if it died in the vacuum of space. Not to mention the movie isn't only scary because of the aliens.
The Space Jockey is also scary as fuck.

This big ass 20 foot tall giant dead in his seat is scary as fuck because it shows the unknown of space and how small we are.
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>>121870193
>>Thee spread pages with nothing change apart the "when you see it"
That shit was awesome
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>>121869472
I don't scare easily but I found some scenes in Over the Garden Wall to be very unsettling
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>>121873854
The example here is a guro manga

Guro doesn't come from "Gore", but from "Grotesque". It's something you're supposed to watch, be disgusted but then just say "That's fucking dumb".

Horror well done plays on the ambient, the mystery, the unknown and it's definitvely not easy to pull off correctly.

So yeah, don't try for guro if you're looking for tense subtle ambient, guro is as stupid as a jumpscare on that aspect.
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>>121870193
>The fanservice driven slice of life episodes were just increasingly awkward after the traumatic reveal in the first story arc.
It's kinda of the point.

You absolutely need the happy moment fanservice episodes or else you wouldn't care about the characters.
The one downside to the manga in my opinion is that it didn't drag too much in the fanservice like the VN does.

You have fun with friends and then you don't know if those said friends are going to kill you.
Then everything is back to normal and you question what the fuck is going on.

At the third episode, Higurashi fucks with you with the idea of ''another K1'' experiencing the past episodes even though he was somewhere else.

Without the happy times, it wouldn't be able to do that.
Everything in Higurashi, even the happy times, is made to give you paranoia.

It's genius.
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>>121869360
Higurashi.
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>>121869472
Off the top of my head the only western cartoons I can think of that I found unsettling was Bill Plympton's stuff. And they're mostly comedy anyway, so it probably wasn't intentional.
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>>121874206
Higurashi is so good.
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>>121874152
>pic
Stupid jumpscare perhaps, but I think what made that comic so effective was the way it suddenly wrenched control away from you and forced you through the scare scene without being able to stop it (effectively, anyway). It's a hard hit for the people who would inch down slowly because they're too apprehensive to go on.
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>>121874206
>this 4 year old girl greets you at midnight, in the middle of the road, when the telephone lines are cut
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Japanese are big fans of Lovecraftian psychological horror, the fear of the unseen and such. It never translates well into a visual medium, just look at the movies they made off Lovecraft novels
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>>121874265
Err, "the example here" was wrong.

I meant to day "your example". Guro manga is usually just gross and made for the shock value Look at Waita Uziga's shit. Some Junji Ito sadlyy fall into that, like Gyo, with death fart-powered machines.

Junji Ito's best work still is Black Paradox, it feels so different from his other comics.

As for the korean webcomics, the genius part is that it uses actual horror.
In Alien or The Thing, you know the enemy is completely unkillable, you're powerless and you won't be able to escape.

These comics use something similar, by hijacking the use of a mechanic everyone is familiar with (a browser) and forcing you to watch some unsettling animation you have no control on.

Under the creepy animation or the jumpscare, that korean dude actually gave some thought over what would be creepy while using a web browser, and that's why that page is brilliant.
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>>121874152
YOU FUCKING CUNT
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>>121874392
Funny enough, Ryukishi never read any Lovecraft.
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>>121870468
kek. best reply.
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>>121870468
underrated post
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>>121874152
>tfw watching it for the first time on comicnaver
i did not expect sound
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>>121874801
BUUUUURP.
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I had nightmares about when Asakura stabbed Kyon in the movie.
Season 2's OST has some spooky music on it too.
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>>121874881
Her walking into the classroom as though nothing was wrong was more spooky.
Or at least, it tried to be spooky.
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horror is shit anyway, it literally only works on some people. for me that am so used to watching fiction, nothing in movies really scares me anymore since I always have that "it's not real" mentality
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>>121874958
You sound like a pretentious faggot
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>>121869955
That's not even from horror manga
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>>121874958
You mean that horror is shit for you.
Gotcha.
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No shit it's fucking cartoons
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Ito´s manga is one of the scariest shit I´ve ever seen. Imagine if Ito worked on silent hill.
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>>121871392
Why they were goddamn babies? It could have been something great, but every time something happens they turn into floating babies.

I know it's just my autism speaking but goddammit
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Are there any horror VNs better than Saya no Uta?
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>>121875099
Higurashi.
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>>121869360
Good news for you >>121873396

Konaka Chiaki writes the script for Shishou Series. It originally start from 2ch

http://2chhorror.ohuda.com/series/sisyou/

>The story of the original novels revolves around a protagonist (played by Takasugi in the project) who experiences various spiritual encounters due to his upperclassman at his college's club, the "master teacher" in the series title that has spiritual sensitivity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVeHCCiIvx4
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>>121875147
I said better.
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>>121875201
And I did.
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>>121870245
This activated my trypophobia pretty bad
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>>121873189
Vampires =/= horror.

Shiki is a terrible anime, the only scene taht came to being spooky was when vampire Pink Girl entered Edgemaster's room. The vampires themselves looked so shit that they wouldn't even fit in Phantom Blood as bizarre vampires.
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>>121875099
Dark Blue. Sayooshi.
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>>121870193
This fucking scene. Made me jump out my chair while reading it. I'm a pussy sure, but that build up was good
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>>121875263
>Dark Blue.
Shock gore isn't good horror.
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>>121870245
The first time I fapped to this I felt like I had actually achieved something.
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This shit was genuinely scary.
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>>121875406
I couldn't find it scary because she was too attractive.
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>>121875406
not so scary I think, but still, it's decent.
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>>121874030
>It's probably what would happen in real life.
If the unknown turned out to be Earth wildlife, but slightly crazier, then yeah sure.
To see what happens when an actual unknown horror comes forth, see In The Mouth of Madness.

>I just think people want horror to win more than humanity overcoming the impossible odds for some reason.
Humanity overcoming impossible odds is not horror. If your horror story ends with "we shot them until they died, and then the status quo was restored, bar a couple dead ppls" then it's not a horror story, it will just have horror elements.

>>121875406
It's just violent.
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>>121870567
Very true my friend, good horror cripples your thoughts with What ifs when you lay alone in the dark at night.
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>>121869360
I have not seen a scary movie since I was 10. Please enlighten me to what movies are actually scary.
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>>121869360
Give this a try, it's rather eerie.
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I don't know if it's just my taste is narrow, but generally I really like documentary style horror like the Blair Witch or The last exorcism.
The shaky and noisy video quality seems just so fucking real. Even though you can't perfectly see the details, you can still visualize something scary behind those blurry frames.
Fucking blair witch.
On the topic, I don't think anime after 2000 can be good horror, since the color scheme they choose is always bright. What I find hilarious is some filler episode in a SoL could have better horror element than shit like Another.
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>>121869526
I hope his next title does some. Some of those one shots are fantastic.
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>>121875466
>Humanity overcoming impossible odds is not horror.
I know. It isn't horror if the known can destroy the unknown.
I just find it interesting that horror must be completely untouchable by natural forces.

>>121875494
>you will never be as scared as when you were a kid, wanting to go to the bathroom but being afraid that the mirrors would suck your soul to hell
I believe that people want to experience the fear as when we were children.

>>121875614
The Blair Witch was a stupid and shit movie.
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>>121875657
Yeah my friend find the Blair Witch sleepy too.
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I'd argue that you could classify manga like Blam! and PunPun as horror with their respective genres, they both position you in incredibly sad situations that could happen to you if you were to make the same mistakes.

If you have not read punpun, don't unspoiler pic related or it's impact will be diminished.
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>>121875517
Banshee Chapter is a fairly recent release and one of the scariest films I've ever seen, despite being American. Aside from that I really haven't seen any good horror movies for a long time; most of the good asian horror films came out over eight years ago. I certainly haven't heard of any newer films being praised or recommended.
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>>121875698
Aiko did nothing wrong.
I just wanted her to be happy.
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>>121875657
In all honesty Fatalframe made it impossible for me to feel safe around mirrors in the dark and I could not do it when I was fifteen because of how much it scared me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5SttjEygM
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>>121875739
Fatal Frame 3 is still the only game where I've repeatedly had to pause it and put it down because I was too frightened to continue on.
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>>121875589
But it's clearly not horror.
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>>121875614
Also, if you like documentary style horror, go watch REC.

There's the shitty american version, Quarantine, but it's shit.
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>>121869360
fatal frame 2 remake.
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>>121875517
I don't know if The Borderlands/Final Prayer would be sp00by enough for you but I can pretty much guarantee that the ending will have an impact. One of the best horror movies I've ever seen and one that does found footage right.

>>121875657
>I just find it interesting that horror must be completely untouchable by natural forces.
Not necessarily, you can make horror without any supernatural elements in it. The guy chasing you is mortal, but good luck killing him. That sort of thing.
Even existential horror can feature mortal unknown, as was the case in the sci-fi novel Blindsight.

It's when your mortal antagonists are literally just spooky looking animals or spooky humans with spooky guns that it all falls apart.
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>>121875813
Grave Encounters was also pretty decent, for an American movie. The sequel was actually even better than the first, in a bizarre reversal of horror tradition.
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>>121875832
That's not an anime.
And the remake was shit.
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>>121872981
The art style worked much better for Jigoku Shoujo.
But i wouldn't call that horror either.
And it wasn't that good either. Pic related for one of the few truly great episodes.
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>>121870172
Ohshit!
Thanks for posting this, I was looking for it
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>>121875883
>The guy chasing you is mortal, but good luck killing him. That sort of thing.
Right, but it feels like he's supernatural is what I mean.

>It's when your mortal antagonists are literally just spooky looking animals or spooky humans with spooky guns that it all falls apart.
Of course, it's all in the buildup and execution.
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>>121870468
>YOu want something scary, look at the usurpation of the internet.

FTFY
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>>121873333
Seconding this quadding gentleman, ghost hunt was pretty scary for me back in the days
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>>121875883
>Not necessarily, you can make horror without any supernatural elements in it. The guy chasing you is mortal, but good luck killing him. That sort of thing.
I find as I get older that I'm less scared by movies about ghosts and monsters and more by things like the absolute psychopath found in Dread.
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>>121876128
>First two arcs are mostly lighthearted and mystery-focused
>Then the haunted mansion arc
>That fucking finale
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>>121876430
I used to be scared by ghost and monsters because I thought they were real. Movies were just people's imagination on how these sorts of Monsters would fuck up people who met them.

I always found psychopath to just be weird people. And serial killers are just not like in the movies or tv shows.
Maybe it's because I've studied up on all the serial killers throughout history that I'm just jaded.

Like, for example, the Night Stalker creeped me out as a kid but I just feel nothing anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdElYnd-xMo

Now I'm just not scared of either Monsters, Ghost or psychopaths and it's a sad feeling.
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>>121870254
i agree
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>>121876692
Theres to many real things out there to be worried about then to waste time on imaginary nightmares, such as Naegleria.
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>>121876960
Nah
I'm much more worried about my neighbors who might try to blow up the whole place if they get royally pissed off.
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>>121876960
I prefer to be scared of imaginary nightmares.

>Naegleria fowleri
>infection rarely occurs
>95% mortality rate
Meh.

>>121876995
Except you know it won't happen.
When you deduce every possible outcome, things become less scary.

Maybe it's the reason I still yearn for supernatural horror but that's just me.
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Notice a show like Courage The Cowardly Dog's only scary scenes are when it switches to 3D (the girl playing the violin that turns around, You're Not Perfect, King Ramses). As someone else said, horror needs 3d lighting.
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Read manga instead.

/thread
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>>121877275
That's the thing with the zombies, right?
I found it slightly decent for a zombie story but pretty mediocre overall.
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>>121869416
Boogiepop was eerie as fuck. The creepy atmosphere and the washed out colors did it.
Whenever japan tries to make horror that depends on liniar plots and that clearly stays within genre boundaries, it fails miserably ("Another", anymore?)
But when focused on mystery and atmposphere, great things can happen. Boogiepop. Lain, Texhnolyze, Mononoke...
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>>121869360
Doomed Megalopolis had some pretty spooky scenes
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>>121877419
I think this is I Am A Hero, and IAAH is actually comedy with some spooky moments. I was laughing all the way.

>>121877501
Another doesn't count. It's basically Final Destination in 2D.
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>>121869943
So what you're saying is "bad horror is bad".
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>>121877588
>I think this is I Am A Hero
Right, that's the name.

Yeah, if seen as a comedy, it's pretty hilarious. There's a lot of really stupid shit in it.
>zombies fighting each other via martial arts
>that one zombie at the beginning biting the MC with him wondering why she's doing that
>refusing being given a blowjob
>that whole introduction before the apocalypse where the MC is such a fucking idiot
>everyone not having a gun because Japan is strict on its anti-weapon program even though you'd think the Yakuza would have a million illegal guns lying around if that sort of shit happened.
I personally just dropped it after the transition to that group. It was just boring.

Apparently it went retarded so meh.
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>>121877800
To be fair AFAIK the Yakuza don't need to have guns everywhere anymore since quite some time now.
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>>121877800
>Not liking I am A hero because it's not generic american zombie shit

jesus christ what are you even doing here? i am a hero is fantastic and you have the shittiest taste, fuck off
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>>121869360
I'd watch the animated version of the "Ghost Stories/Tales from Japan" series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY5lIjhLAJM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFFBWCzU2Fo
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>>121877917
They finally realized a disarmed populace is easy enough to depredate without 'em?
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>>121875614

Blair Witch was shit.

>Oh, we're lost innawoods.
>muh map, where's muh map
>waaah, I want to carry the map!
>the rocks are piled up
>the rocks are moved
>we're walking in circles
>nothing happens!

Only documentary style I've actually found scary were the youtubes of the Paris and Odessa catacombs.
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>>121878020
How shit can one man's taste be? The blair wich is the best horror film ever made.
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>>121877958
Dude, being better than the average doesn't give it a pass.
I judge things on their own.

This why I get pissed whenever anyone says ''oh well, this anime is good because it's better than the average anime''.
As thought that even fucking meant anything.

There are a lot of things I like about it like still having the monsters being somewhat like zombies but being their own thing. Like it still following the rules of being bitten yet them being super zombies whenever the plot requires it and seeing the inner workings of how they think but it's not really a great story.
I like the bit where a zombie tries to bite the MC but she doesn't have any teeth so he doesn't get inflected.
That was cute and it's a wonder why no one else has done this.

But overall? I'm not impressed by it.
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>>121878134
acquire some taste then
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>>121878134
>I like the bit where a zombie tries to bite the MC but she doesn't have any teeth so he doesn't get inflected.
>That was cute and it's a wonder why no one else has done this.
I'm pretty sure I've seen that in a few different stories.
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>>121878131
>The blair wich is the best horror film ever made.
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>121877917
Really? Damn.

>>121878160
Explain why it's good without comparing it and I'd be tempted to get better taste.

>>121878181
Me too but I honestly can't recall it in any zombie stories.
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>>121877998
Mafia generally don't need guns to do something to the populace, they need them to kill each other.
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>>121878131
what
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>>121878251
But they still arm themselves.
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>>121869360
Try Fuan no Tane. You'll get paranoid and always look behind you when reading this.
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Maybe horror just is silly as a concept and that's why it is not that easy to replicate. But Ghost Hound did it right IMO. It actually felt menacing at times.
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So what are the god tier horror manga then?

Monster was brilliant of course. Homunculus is one of the best manga of all time.

What else?
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>>121871196
Fuan no Tane
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>>121878554
Homunculus isn't really horror though.
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>>121873118
This is really the point of this manga, makes you paranoid about everything in daily life.
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>>121878554
Also, Monster isn't a horror manga.
Heck, it's not even a horror story, it's a suspense and thriller story.
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>>121874087
>Over the Garden Wall
mah nigga
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>>121870071
In all seriousness, Elfen Lied is just dark, that's it. Darkness isn't used as a medium to deliver a message or even to tell a good story. It's just dark, sometimes, and that's it.
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Some parts of Chaos;Head VN had good horror, but obviously didn't adapt well into the anime. I think the first person perspective really helps VNs in that regard.
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>>121879600
You could argue that there's some horror aspect in Elfen Lied.
It's just not well executed.
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There's more than one definition of horror, disgusting horror is one type of horror theme. Not specifically intended to be horror inducing, but make you legitimately feel disgusted.

>mfw Ito's Glyceride spaghetti face part
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>>121869360
>Literally there is one good horror anime
Fixed for you.
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>>121871445
I agree with what you said except for Ayakashi's BakeNeko.

That arc is horror/thriller done right.
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>>121869472
Courage the cowardly dog
even if it was black comedy most of the time, any time it did horror it did it well.
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>>121869360
nothing that is non interactive cannot into horror
Only videogames and literature can do horror because "Its scarier in your head" is true, and you are much more invested in a book with your imagination and the interactive nature of a video game immerses you into its world, making them the only generes that horror can work, when done right
Movies, Anime, Songs, TV shows, all just cannot scare you because they are all non interactive and non immersive media
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The anime called Gyo was pretty good.
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>>121869663
Eh I think it's a lot more effective with animation. In non-animated films, the actual monsters/ghosts and acting can be really distracting and take out immersion.
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>>121881265
>getting scared by fucking video games.
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>>121881151
Wasn't Courage's Creator a classic horror movie fan?
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>>121869360
When you think about it, trying to invoke moe and trying to invoke fear (a.k.a. Horror) are opposing concepts, whereas moe incites you to want to protect someone, whilst horror makes you want to be protected from something scary. Moe is quite integral to the anime aesthetic, so it's no surprise that good horror is scarce within the medium.
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>>121881456
Go play a horror game that wasn't made post the 7th gen with headphones and alone
Even fucking Ecco the Dolphin managed to scare people and it wasn't even a horror game
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>>121881331
>anime Gyo
even more hilarious than the original manga version
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>>121881331
I really wish more of Ito's work would be adapted, some of his stories were silly but unnerving as fuck. Tomie was really weird and creepy I'd love for it to get an anime.
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>>121875883
>The Borderlands
Holy shit, fuck you for recommending this.
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>>121871392
It stopped being good and interesting.
I watched the whole thing, but the alien dna ghost babies and dragon final boss lost me.
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>>121881456
Are you pretending to be retarded?
Video games is the only thing that can be scary at all
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>>121882566
>If you don't get scared by video games you are pretending to be retarded.
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>>121870190
/tg/ has known about it for ages.

If I'm not mistaken, it was done by the same people who did Maid RPG.
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>>121870537
Ayy lmao
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>>121883312
I gave up on this after the arc where everyone was gay and that was the focus for like six fucking episodes.
I got to the end of that arc but after how shit it was I just didn't care anymore.
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>>121883403
the ending still wakes me up at nights
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