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Is Kara no Kyoukai Part 6 the greatest anime movie ever made?

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Is Kara no Kyoukai Part 6 the greatest anime movie ever made?
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It has the least amount of Shiki, so no.
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No, it's not even the best Kara no Kyoukai movie. That would be part 5, by the way.
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>>121787391
Bible Black
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>>121787391
This series is so fucking boring it put me to sleep.
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>>121788729
that's Nasu unbridled power for you
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>>121787391
As much as I love KnK, I don't think Disappearance will ever be topped.
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KnK6 was the worst in my opinion.
But I liked 4 the best, so my taste is somewhat bizarre, it seems.
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Study in Murder 1 and 2 are the best overall, but I loved Paradox Spiral for the atmosphere and the special way of directing that was used in it.
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>>121787391
Was there a reason why the films were not shown in continuity order? Loved the films but the plot was hard to follow.
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>>121789022
>I loved Paradox Spiral for the atmosphere and the special way of directing that was used in it

The one with the redhead dude? The slight vibe of NTR distracted me too much.
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>>121789232
yeah this one
I totally agree with you. As I said, I liked the different point of view stuff and so on that was used.
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>>121789091
Maybe they wanted to have a great audience at the start because thanathos gives the best total impression of the series.
Or they just wanted it that way (look at monogatary or haruhi)
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>>121788907
It never got to the top. Nothing will ever surpass The Ideon: Be Invoked.
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>>121789454
In chronological order story would spoil itself too much.
And having Murder 1 as a starting point would not help either (in terms of attracting people to franchise)
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>>121788960
wait 4 isn't well liked? I fucking loved it
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>>121789831
Well my favorite is 3.
As much as I like 5 music and action, I not very fond of mc and his story there.
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3>5>4>1=2>6>7
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>>121787391

Good taste. Best TM girl
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I haven't seen any KnK, but I doubt it's the best, considering all it takes for it to not be the best is for someone to disagree with you, since anime is subjective.
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>>121790132
but what about Cinema openings
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>>121790319
6>5>7>3>4>2>1
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>>121790132
I agree.
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>>121790309
Back to Reddit you colossal faggot.
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>>121790348
good taste
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>>121787391
5 Centimeters per Second was better.
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End of Evangelion can't be beat.
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>>121790465
It's beaten by the movie it ripped off. See:
>>121789611
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>>121790495
I know EoE was heavily inspired by Ideon, but if that screenshot is indicative of Ideon's quality then it's nowhere near EoE's level.

It looks like mecha spiderman got trapped in his own poorly drawn web.
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5>7>3>1>4>2>>6
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>>121790582

Oh anon, it's not that, not at all.
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Nothing from Kara no Kyoukai is even vaguely approaching "greatest anime movie ever made".
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>>121789232
>slight vibe of NTR

The fuck? NotShirou had a crush on Shiki, but she pretty much ignored him. How pathetic can you possibly be?
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>>121790820
Mecha spiderman ejaculating from every pore on his body?
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>>121790925

Almost anon, just more crazy and imaginative.
And with an incredible ending and powerful message.
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I want to buy her presents.
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>>121791101
Buy her an interesting personally.
The 6th film was trash-tier.
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>>121791166
That is not azaka, and that is not from the 6th movie.
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>>121790582
lel; you just proved you haven't actually watched the movie. That's just a low-res screeny I pulled off google.

EoE's plot makes little sense, and the conclusion doesn't provide the same impact Ideon's did; at least not for me.
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>>121791193
My bad, I thought it was the sister at first glance.
She ain't special but is cute, I would buy her presents too.
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>>121788907
Muh nigga
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>>121787391
no that would be 3.33
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>>121790899
I'm very insecure, yes.
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1. A Study in Murder
2. Paradox Spiral
3. A Study in Murder - Part 2
4. Overlooking View
5. Hollow Shinre
6. Remaining Sense of Pain
7. Oblivion Recording
8. Future Gospel
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mirai fukuin >= 6 > 1 > everything
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>>121791228
>lel; you just proved you haven't actually watched the movie
>if that screenshot is indicative of Ideon's quality
>if
Nothing gets past you, anon.

EoE's plot makes sense enough, and the ending is probably one of the most powerful scenes in anime -- the silence, the desolation, and that controversial closing line. In just five minutes, it manages to completely change everything that came before it.

And there's a lot more to a film than plot. The visuals, music, and overall direction are peerless. It doesn't just do one thing really well, it does everything really well.
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>>121790132
Yes.

Christ, I can't believe 7 has so many fans, it's fucking awful. It's actually impossible for me to figure out what they liked from it.
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The Epilogue was my favorite movie.

Come at me.
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>>121792162
Study of Murder part 2 made me cry.
KnK is the greatest love story ever told.
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>>121792247
Made me cry too.

With how badly directed it was.
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>>121792103
I hate to post a Youtube review, but I cbf investing the time to explain why EoE's plot is shit, and this guy covers just about everything:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6VCU_ol_wA

Also,
>implying Ideon's visuals, music & overall direction aren't peerless.

Watch the fucking movie you plebasaurus. Ideon: Be Invoked's OST is unmatched.
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>literally not a single thing left to animate
What are the odds of anything new being written once Nasu is done with fate like that would ever happen despite his claims
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>>121792319
Why do you think so?
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You can actually see as movies progress how ufotable was getting more and more lazy. Fate/Stay suffered of sameface so badly it's not even funny.
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>>121787463
That's a weird way to spell part 7.
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>>121792459

Why would anything more be written? It's a closed story.

KnK best Nasu.
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>>121787391
Nah, that's part 5.
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>>121792535
i want more milf Shiki
that's why
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>>121792429
>youtube review
anon

ANON
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>>121792562
Go rock up at ahnerabe
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>>121792429
>youtube review

This is the future you chose. Thanks, moot.
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>>121792642

You mean Senran Kagura.
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>>121792429
I never thought I'd waste 30 minutes of my life watching a fat kid talk about japanese moving drawings.
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>>121788907
Disappearance isn't even as good as the worst Kon film. That's Paprika by the way.

>>121790309
>anime is subjective
All art has objective and subjective qualities.
Particularly visual media has a great many more objective qualities than subjective qualities.

>>121790465
It's better than the worst Kon film, but worse than any of his others.
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>>121792581
>>121792686
Call foul all you like, but deep down, you're just afraid of the fact that EoE has significant plot holes; most of which are related to Seele.

>>121792787
Proves you didn't even watch it. Only the first half of the video was a review; the second is something that shouldn't be discussed.

Until you're prepared to debate the points he highlighted, EoE is a poorly written film.
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>>121792534
But Study in Murder Part 2 is the third best movie, and it's basically an epilogue.
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>>121792103
>The visuals, music, and overall direction are peerless
That's Oshii's GitS, at least as far as moving tibetan tapestries go.
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>>121792884
>EoE has significant plot holes
Such as...?
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5>7>Mirai Fukuin=4>1>3=2=6
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>>121792945
If Seele believes that the existence of humanity was a fluke and that the Angels were the true successors of the Earth, why would they fund a program that fights the angels?

If the Angels knew Seele were helping NERV to fight and kill them, why would they cooperate with Seele and send Kaworu, the 17th Angel, into NERV headquarters and merge with Lillith?

refer to:
>>121792429
and watch the video, faggot. He legitimately reks the movie.
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You spelt part 5 wrong
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Sprinter > *
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>>121792876
you misspelled perfect blue
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>>121792965

5>3=4>Mirai Fukuin>2=1>7>6

Though to be fair, I only watched 7 once, and the others a billion times. And I think I like 4 because it's so short.
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>>121793112
Perfect Blue is easily better than Paprika.
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>>121793024
1. They had their own agenda. They didn't wanted to eradicate humanity, they wanted to control it.

2. Angels didn't send Kaworu. Kaworu was 'Seele's Rei'.
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>>121793024
>If Seele believes that the existence of humanity was a fluke and that the Angels were the true successors of the Earth, why would they fund a program that fights the angels?

Who says they believe this?

>If the Angels knew Seele were helping NERV to fight and kill them, why would they cooperate with Seele and send Kaworu, the 17th Angel, into NERV headquarters and merge with Lillith?

the angels don't coordinate, they have difficulty understanding the concept
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>>121793132
Yes, I liked 4 for the same reasons too. It might not had moments as high as the other movies but it didn't drag on and stayed good from start to finish.
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>>121793132
Rewatch 7. It's one of the best movies.
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>>121793024
>If Seele believes that the existence of humanity was a fluke and that the Angels were the true successors of the Earth, why would they fund a program that fights the angels?
People lie.
Seele's goal always was becoming gods of Humanity.

>If the Angels knew Seele were helping NERV to fight and kill them, why would they cooperate with Seele and send Kaworu, the 17th Angel, into NERV headquarters and merge with Lillith?
Because Seele are the guys who rule the world from the darkness.
Think Illuminati.
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>>121793024
SEELE was an insane cult obsessed with ascending to a higher state of existence through the "prophecy" written in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Everything they did was to achieve that goal aka Instrumentality.

The Angels weren't cooperating as far as I'm aware, and if they were, then they still wouldn't know what SEELE was up to. That was the point of them trying to invade the pilots' minds toward the end of the series -- they were trying to develop a better understanding of their enemy.

Kaworu thought that NERV had Adam, not Lilith. He explicitly announces that he was misled by SEELE in his episode.

tl;dr: you're a big noob babby who needs to pay more attention, and you should feel profound shame for not only linking a youtube review, but one that according to your examples is factually wrong.
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>>121793203
>>121793210
>>121793249
>>121793357
Notice the variety in explanations. There's no clear-cut answer, those are just interpretations.

That's not all either:

If all that had to be done was for Kaworu to merge with Lilith, why did it take so long for this plan to be enacted?

If they knew this plan was going to fail because the prophetic writings of the Dead Sea Scrolls didn't fortell any of this, why did they go through with it anyway and risk showing their hand to NERV?

If the alleged leader of Seele, Keel Lorenz, knew about Gendou's treachery before, why were they still cooperating?

If the Angels are just another form of humanity, why would Seele think humanity is a mistake when it's just as likely that the other Angels were the mistake?

Who threw the Lance into the head of Eva 02? All the enemy units had been disabled.
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>>121793665
There's no variety in the SEELE explanations. They're all saying the same thing.

The Kaworu explanations aren't all the same, but there are shared ideas among them and they all fit together. And it's literally an objective fact that Kaworu believed Adam was in Terminal Dogma, not Lilith. It's not "just interpretations."

It's clear that you and/or the reviewer missed "plot holes" that were outright explained in the show, and this should make you stop and question everything you're saying. Instead of insisting that you be spoonfed answers, you should go back and actually watch the show that you're talking about. Think for yourself.
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>semi-bait thread turns into KnK thread turns into EoE-discussion thread
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>>121794268
Everything turned out better than expected.
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>>121794268
Anno's Law.

>"As an online anime discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Evangelion approaches 1"
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>>121794336
>filename
Kek.
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The visuals were the only good thing about KnK. It was mostly awful.
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>>121787391
Sure ain't and it's not even the best KnK, That would be Fukan Fuukei.
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>>121794231
>It's clear that you and/or the reviewer missed "plot holes" that were outright explained in the show, and this should make you stop and question everything you're saying. Instead of insisting that you be spoonfed answers, you should go back and actually watch the show that you're talking about. Think for yourself.

You know you've come across an elitist mong when you see a post like this.

How is your point of view any clearer when you haven't even highlighted examples that prove me wrong? I've seen the show more than enough times, and as far as I can tell, these are clear plot holes, and you're just using your own interpretations as an argument, as opposed to fact.

Provide evidence that SEELE's motivations and objectives conform with the interpretations of the above posters, otherwise you're nothing but a shitspewer with no real idea.
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>>121793665
>Notice the variety in explanations. There's no clear-cut answer, those are just interpretations.
That's because there is a lack of explanation.
A plot hole isn't absence of information, but contradiction of it.

But
>Who threw the Lance into the head of Eva 02? All the enemy units had been disabled.
That is a good question.
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>>121794714
I've pointed out numerous times how the

SEELE says that humanity has reached an evolutionary dead end, and the point of Instrumentality is to exceed that. This is the surface level explanation.

Gendo or Fuyutski says something about them being old men who are afraid of their own mortality. This provides a possible underlying motive to SEELE's ambitions.

SEELE is a shadowy organization with hands in every global power, and they have enough money and influence to fund NERV and the entire EVA project. These are people who are obsessed with power, and on a global scale.

They have Illuminati/cult elements in droves: the eyes, the pyramids, the creepy mantras and the ritual in EoE. They are insane.

You still haven't responded to being objectively wrong about the Kaworu example.

These are all things that you would know from your repeated viewings if you put more effort into understanding and less effort into complaining.
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>>121795230
>the creepy mantras
Überm Sternenzelt richt Gott wie wir gerichtet
What's creppy about it?
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>>121795373
>German
The spookiest.

There was also "the fate of destruction is the joy of rebirth" which is something straight out of a death cult.
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>>121795485
>The spookiest.
Copied straight from "An die Freude" / "Ode to Joy"
I give you the other one though
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>come back
>thread is about NGE now

God damn it, /a/.
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>>121795723
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>>121795540
>Copied straight from "An die Freude" / "Ode to Joy"
That doesn't make it not creepy, anon.

>"Above the starry firmament God judges, as we judged"
That's a pretty spooky motto.
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>>121787391
Mirai fukuin is the best because cute loli.
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>>121791433
My brother from a black mother.
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>>121795834
>no spin-off anime with Mana as MC

why
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>>121795812
How about you take the concept
>Unser Schuldbuch sei vernichtet!
>Ausgesöhnt die ganze Welt!
>Brüder, überm Sternenzelt
>Richtet Gott, wie wir gerichtet.
Or in english
>Our debt registers be abolished
>Reconcile the entire world!
>Brothers, over the starry canopy
>God judges, as we judged.
Just copied from wikipedia because i'm lazy
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>>121795812
>>121795485
What is so "spooky"/"creepy" about german?
It's a nice language.
It didn't do nothing
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>>121795916
It's spooky in the same way that a serial killer singing a nursery rhyme as he stalks his victim. Context is important.

>>121795983
I actually love how German sounds, but it's still probably the creepiest language. It's very rough and guttural.
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>>121795983
>>121796118
It probably doesn't help that most of the German I've heard in my life was from listening to Rammstein in high school.
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While not the best of the KnK movies, 3 has a special place in my heart because I fell in love with Fujino.
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>>121796610
Fujino a shit.
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Lio is the best Type-Moon.
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>>121796645
She's a wonderful girl and I want to protect her smile
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To watch KnK do I need to have read Tsukihime and Melty Blood?
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>>121797373
No.
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