How did you find this scene /a/?
Are you hype for it in Part 2? Post your most hyped Part 2 moments you're looking forward to.
>literally trying to make a general
No this is a UBW thread. Stop your misconceptions and open your eyes.
>How did you find this scene /a/?
I found it playing UBW
>Post your most hyped Part 2 moments you're looking forward to.
Ranca vs Archa
I'll be a pleb and say "Emiya vs EMIYA".
I just want to see all the F/Z kiddies eat their words when it really happens.
Also, despair after betrayal of Aacha. I really liked this scene. You really felt like there was nothing they could do anymore.
The smart remarks are all I have anon
Noble phantasm : This chair
Maybe steel is your body and fire is your blood
>Not staring on Rider's delicious tone belly.
It was ok, I liked this scene more though.
Most hyped part 2 moment is "ONORE, ONORE ONORE ONORE ONOREEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!"
time for autism
fucking Colonel Chabert as Rider
>Noble Phantasm: Into the World of the Living Once More
>Though a weak Servant, the Colonel can defy his own death once and come back to his Master after a certain period of time after which he was killed. All his Ranks fall to E and he loses his skills as a Rider, the Servant becomes unrecognizable to all, can not be detected by the means of a magus or a Servant and gains Presence Concealment of Rank D
yes I am autistic
Come to think of it, Santa might actually be fucking OP as a Servant. He has global fame and recognition beyond even Hercules or Arthur, and his abilities are far more ridiculous.
So... even an ancient hero from the times when Ireland didn't even exist yet is better at technology than Rin?
Why do magi care hate technology so much anyway? I get that they lose power because of it, but it's still useful and I'd think pretty similar to magic in some regards, and it's not like if you don't use it the magic would suddenly stop disappearing. Why are they so incompetent at it? I would think everyone would be more practical and "as long as it does what it needs to, whatever"-mode.
Also, Ransa using his Gay Bulge on his computer seems kinda dangerous. But then again, it's mentioned he is very precise with his fishing rod in FHA...
Kiritsugu was never said to be an exceptional magus, but he still won the Grail War. Discounting the possibility that Saber did literally all the work, we must assume that he won because he was the only magus around who understood how to properly use a handgun.
I sincerely respect everyone comments, but i truly prefer the Fate route in which Shirou and Saber fall in love with each other, and that last episode almost make me cry when she disappears right after she said I love you to Shirou.
Shirou and Saber make a weight better couple them Rin and Shirou, because they protected each other and the story is more interesting. just to think that the holy grail battle drag a beautiful woman from the past and bring her to the present to fight next to a novice master for the sake of the world, meanwhile they fall in love with each other and at the end she disappears right after confessing her love to him.
It hits me deep in my heart and leave with a strong sensation, wishing that they should of have end up together.
That's... actually a pretty good idea.
I bet he actually exists in Nasuverse.
Also, a hero who is specifically powered by children
not like Gil, by their faithis either completely non-grimdark or grimdark to the max.
Jason of the Argonauts as a Rider. Between the Argo, the Argonauts, the Golden Fleece, the Dragon's Teeth, and the Pebble of Free-for-All Deathmatch, he would be hilarious to keep around.
Servants get the knowledge of the time they get summoned in.
While this is true, he is one of the best "specialists" in the world who happens to be specializing in magus murder, which is 100% what the holy grail war is about.
Rin isn't worse with technology than the average human.
It's just that she grew up in a house with very little modern technology
Handguns are pretty useless when your opponent can fortify his body enough to stop Herakles from crushing her
The brilliant Sir Gawain, strongest knight of the round table.
Really? I always got the impression she was worse than average human, unless you include all the third world as part of average too.
She could probably learn it but she never bothered to. I think it's the same for other magi.
Also, wasn't it confirmed that magi in general are bad at technology somewhere?
time for autism from somebody else
True Name: Alonso Quixano, "Don Quixote"
A dark-skinned Spanish gentleman in his late 30s, Rider has neck-length dark brown hair and a light goatee, accentuating a cheerful but disturbingly unfaltering smile. He wears a white tunic and pantaloons, along with faded and dented wine-red armor over his chest and one of his arms and legs (mismatched). A tattered wide-rimmed wine-red hat sits atop his head, accentuated by a single feather that upon closer examination belongs to a common Spanish pigeon rather than any noble breed.
Note: Representing his delusions of knighthood, Rider's general appearance and weapon are poor imitations of the "Lancer" card.
Noble Phantasm: B
The expertise to ride animals and vehicles. Due to a lack of training, most vehicles can be handled with only average skill. However, he cannot ride the likes of Phantasm Races or more complex vehicles.
Cancel Single-Action spells. Magic Resistance of the same degree of an amulet that rejects magical energy.
Natural talent to command an army. At this rank, he is charming but completely untrustworthy, and may only be able to convince a few foolish individuals to follow him into battle.
Due to possessing a distorted mentality, Mental Pollution makes it highly possible to shut out any mental interference Thaumaturgy. However, at the same time it becomes impossible to come to an understanding with individuals that do not possess an equivalent rank of mental pollution. Rider is resolute in his convictions against all evidence to the contrary and is extremely difficult to discourage or correct even when obviously mistaken.
Well, yeah, and it was said by Saber, I think, that he was actually extremely adaptable to any conditions.
I just thought it was ironic. I wasn't criticising it in that regard.
Gawain is as strong if not stronger than King Arthur normally, and with Numeral of the Saint activated his stats are tripled, making him by far the strongest knight of the round table.
Dulcinea - Tilting the Balance of All Things
Representing the madness and chivalry that infected Don Quixote's entire world view, Dulcinea allows Rider to force his own perceptions of the world on anyone he engages in combat with. When Rider recognizes an enemy as his opponent, his concept of honorable battle equalizes his attributes with that of his opponent, plundering the strength of his opponent until they are as weak as he is in all attributes. Because the effect is instanteous, his enemy typically does not recognize the effect on their own body, only perceiving Rider as their equal in skill and power.
Activation of this Noble Phantasm is automatic, enforcing his perception upon the opponent the moment he recognizes them as an opponent, but the effect is limited by Rider's personal chivalric code. For example, because he is unable to regard a fleeing opponent as his enemy, disengaging from battle cancels the effect. Furthermore, he believes that relying on others to help him fight his battles is dishonorable, so invocation of this Noble Phantasm is negated if Rider receives any outside assistance whatsoever. Because the power is triggered by recognition, Rider must be aware of his opponent in order for this Noble Phantasm to apply, rendering him particularly vulnerable to sneak attacks and deception.
Rocinante - The Greatest Yesterday Comes Tomorrow
Although a normal animal in life, having recognized Rocinante as the steed of a great knight-errant and the equal to him in merit, Rider is able to harness his delusions to create a history of prestige and mystery for Rocinante with no factual basis purely on the strength of his own belief. Although normally no more powerful than an ordinary horse, Rocinante is able to utilize the power drained from opponents by Dulcinea in order to significantly bolster its own attributes temporarily. With sufficient power drained from the opponent to accumulate into false history, Rocinante can become equivalent to a legendary beast in status and ability, transforming into a spectral horse engulfed in overwhelmingly powerful magical energy.
Unless you bring CP there's realy nothing to indicate that she's worse than average with technology.
The only time I remember her getting confused by it was when Shirou brings up more specific computer stuff
Queen Christina of Sweden as a Caster. Could be fun just because of her fascination with alchemy and the occult.
Fate is my favorite route, but I'm not a fucking faggot about it you dumb nigger.
But she didn't know what a DVD player is in FHA.
Admittedly. she did know what an LCD is, and VCR too.
I didn't meant "terribad". I meant more "generally bad and probably unable to use a computer". Also, Shirou in FHA did mention that she is unable to work anything with more than 10 buttons.
But he could be exaggerating, to be honest, and FSN never implied anything like that. Not that there was ever a chance to.
Why would I want to affiliate with a dumb nigger like Jack?
The plot was so good, I had a hard time taking my mind off of it during my play. I was however, super saddened at the ending. I hope I am not the only one, but I think I got over attached to characters (especially Saber!) and as a result, many manly tears have been shed. I, personally, was hoping that there would be some loop hole allowing/enabling Saber to stay. I guess it was still a good ending having 'saved' Saber and all, but I can't help but feel the impact of the feels train.
>Hey, Son I think it's time to take out old yeller, so take her out back okay?
>there's realy nothing to indicate that she's worse than average with technology
>FSN never implied anything like that
I think Shirou made a comment along those lines in FSN, but then again it was in
one of RN's added scenes.
There should be a Shiki board.
No, they aren't allowed to be obnoxious but they do it anyway.
Just as you do now.
Just liking something, on the other hand, is allowed... Mostly. As long as your opinion isn't completely retarded.
Your franchise is ded, it's about time you leave and take Tsukihime with you..
Why is Medusa such a shit Servant? She gets her ass handed to her by everybody, she puts out to Shinji of all people, she fucks Sakura's husbando Shirou, and she dresses like a streetwalker.
Do fictional characters get summoned? Besides Fake Assassin, he was weird in general.
No, in Nasuverse they genuinely existed.
There was no room to exist for Don Quixote.
Reminder that Shiki could kill Shirou before he could even finish projecting a single NP.
Why is Kotomine a much better character than Shirou?
>She gets her ass handed to her by everybody
Shinji's fault because he's a shit master.
>she puts out to Shinji of all people
Shinji's fault because he's a shit master.
>she fucks Sakura's husbando Shirou
Shinji's because he's a shit master and shit in bed.
>she dresses like a streetwalker.
She's /fa/ as fuck in hollow.
Your double dubs won't crush me.
How are Ilya and HF Normal connected? It was a sad ending for Sakura, I can't recall Ilya even being mentioned. Hell, if anything, she survived there, contrary to HF True!
>Damn it Saber, You got it all over the carpet
Rider is pretty good too
Put a chocolate up your ass and see what happens, I bet it'll end well.
I'm honestly curious, do you think you'd absorb it or would you just fart out melted chocolate before that?
>you will never hang out with Assassin and Lancer at the same time
>you will never drink and trashtalk Caster while drunk trying to avoid lazers
Fuck my life.
She has the best anus but we're talking about the cheeks here. I vote Saber, I bet it's pretty and muscular. No need for obscene big butts.
Shirou, Lancer and Archer. Possibly Kotomine.
What is your response, /a/?
What can Caster Cu even do that Lancer Cu can't? Can he just use more runes or something? Can he even use his spear?
If this scene ain't it something is seriously wrong with you.
Why is FSN the most popular when its the worst Type-moon?
Go ask Archer, he's literally future me.
>looking forward to best Fate dying
I already dropped the anime but I'm going to pick it back up only for that episode just so I can drop it again.
Marry her, of course.
I want to spend the rest of my life as Taiga's househusband.
Doesn't Ireland already exist? Also, it's kinda big to summon, and it would probably crush at least some Japan and Mage's Association would go crazy over that.
And if anything, I think the country didn't yet exist during his time. Am I wrong?
Because Fate Stay Night is near the pinnacle of all visual novels with some of the most fleshed out lore, interesting characters, and powerful development throughout the three routes. It's truly a modern masterpiece that all visual novels should strive to match.
What? Are you talking about Ilya or something?
Literally every other aspect of every other ending
(besides UBW Good and HF Normal but they don't count)is better for the protagonists.
>Because Tsukihime is near the pinnacle of all visual novels with some of the most fleshed out lore, interesting characters, and powerful development throughout the five routes. It's truly a modern masterpiece that all visual novels should strive to match.
>Post your most hyped Part 2 moments you're looking forward to.
Silly question OP.
And if they fuck it up I will literally end myself and all of you.
>Anyway, I complained in the last two posts that Shirou doesn't seem to have a character arc in this route, in that he ends up more or less where he started, and normally you'd expect a main character to change over the course of the story.
>But I think there's a very good reason for this, and I think it's that he's not the protagonist.
>I said this in passing last route because it was a funny thing to think about, that if you looked at the story from Saber's point of view, Shirou was actually the femme fatale whose affect she had to resist to succeed. But that's not a really valid reading, I don't think, as much as a funny headcanon. As you all pointed out, the whole idea of Fate in a larger sense is in fact to introduce us to Shirou and who he is.
>However, this route, I think you can make an extremely persuasive case that Archer is the true protagonist. I don't think it's any accident the last scene of the story proper is between Archer and Rin, with Shirou not involved in any way. Hell, Shirou even lampshades it, saying Rin is the one who should be in the final scene, as he has nothing to say. I also mentioned in the Character Roundup that I think the romance is founded on the Rin/Archer relationship more than the Rin/Shirou one. Shirou is our window into the events, lacking a real character arc himself, and ultimately is not so much a full character as he is the representation of the actual hero's inner turmoil.
>shirou trained to the point of near death and had to leave humanity behind in order to make gainz and 8 inches of height
>still gets beat down by some purple haired fujoshi
I just don't understand why nasu hates him so much.
>mfw Fukusawa only delivers a new emiya
>Anyway, I complained in the last two posts that Shirou doesn't seem to have a character arc in this route, in that he ends up more or less where he started
This is bullshit. Shirou vastly grows to better understand his ideal. Just because he doesn't drop it doesn't mean he doesn't develop. I bet this guy's an HFfag.
>I also mentioned in the Character Roundup that I think the romance is founded on the Rin/Archer relationship more than the Rin/Shirou one
UBW is the one route that completely shits on the idea of Rin/Archer. They are constantly at each others throats, and Rin's entire thing is that she /doesn't/ want Shirou to become jaded and cynical like him. Plus he literally leaves her to be raped by Shinji.
I cannot fathom how people can think UBW even hints at Rin and Archer.
I'm not sure it's the best, but it is genuinely good.
I was always perplexed by /a/'s attitude towards it, always both hating on it and talking about it endlessly. In the end, I have no other explanation that /a/ is probably tsundere for it.
In the end, I feel that FSN actually does deserve its popularity. It's unequivocally good.
I can't talk about KnK, but with Tsukihime, not really. There was no real deep look into magi side of things in Tsukihime, I can't remember True Magic being mentioned at all, the whole Servant side of things is a lot of lore all alone, and so on. Tsukihime mostly focused on supernatural that wasn't directly connected to magic and more just supernatural creatures, if I remember right. Vampires, demons, psychic powers, supernatural hunters, but little magic of itself. I can only remember Roa, and even he didn't actually use magic in original VN.
>The climax-- the Ordeal-- of UBW is obvious; it's the battle between Archer and Shirou.
>The Death, though is where things start to break down for Shirou, which kind of makes sense with my complaints about his character arc-- this is where something big happens to a character, so big that it could even be a metaphorical "death and rebirth," and that leads into the second half of the cycle, which is the learning from the Big Thing and bringing that knowledge back home.
>But Shirou doesn't really have a death-- I'd say he has more a second refusal. To have a Death is to lose something of who you were before and gain something new, but Shirou ends the story very much the same person he begins as. Shirou doesn't lose anything in this fight. Sure, what he believes is challenged, but he doesn't really even seem to consider the challenge so much as brace against it and refuse to acknowledge it. It's like he reaches the top of the arc and just kind of evens out, but it's called a character arc and not a character linear relationship precisely because the character is expected to lose something and grow from it and end up in a different place, not the same one but better.
>Now, there's the obvious caveat here that the intent in Fate as a whole was to have Shirou grow over the three arcs, and I think there's a degree to which is this a valid counterargument, but I also think the stories should really be able to stand on their own. I think this one can, but Shirou's non-arc is the biggest strike against it as a standalone story (that I think gets solved by shifting the protago-focus to Archer).