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Vertical has licensed the Kizumonogatari LN

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Please buy
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Also, Seraph of the End
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And Ninja Slayer
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No thanks. I'll buy the original LN.
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>>121284974
>I'll buy
You mean you haven't already?
>not buying the translations as well
How shit can you be?
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more like kusomonogatari
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>>121284889
>vertical licensed ninja slayer
oh cool i can actually read up on this before the series starts.
nice.
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Any Kyougoku novels?
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>>121285055
The anime airs in the Spring.
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I tried getting a job there but they said they weren't hiring.

Vertical pls hire me
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>>121285024
>You mean you haven't already?

I just recently became a fan a couple of months ago, and other things take priority over Monogatari.

>not buying the translations as well
>How shit can you be?

That's just being stupid and throwing money away.
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Is this going to be like how a company said they'll publish an LN but then they decide to discontinue it and stop?
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>>121285261
You mean like Zaregoto? Vertical tends to be better than that.
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>>121285218
>supporting the western manga and light novel industry
>being stupid
Yeah no.
You're the one being stupid here.
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>>121284889
Nice.
>>121284911
>>121284969
Who cares?
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>>121285261
Vertical have been and are releasing a couple of light novels already.
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>>121285261
Vertical tends to finish what they start.

Though I really wouldn't be surprised if they released Kizu and left it at that.
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>>121285305
Have they completely published a full series before?
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>>121285322
>You're the one being stupid here.

You're an idiot if you think there's a point in buying the original release and also someone's translation of it just to support the western manga/LN industry.

How about supporting the actual people who created the material at half the price?
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>>121285378
I agree. I reckon they'll just try and fill the gap they know exists and leave it at that, which is fine.
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>>121284889
>>121284911
>>121284969

Nah I probably just DL off Baka or Nyaa.

Thanks though.
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>>121285461
>How about supporting the actual people who created the material at half the price?
Sure, by all means, please do that.
I do that as well.
I also want to support the western industry so we can keep getting anime, manga and light novel over here. If people didn't support the western anime/manga/light novel industry, we wouldn't get, for example, anime movies like Haruhi and Rebellion in cinemas overseas.
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>>121284889
Depends on how accurate and localized the translation is. I'll wait to see what others say.
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Thank you based Vertical
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>>121285322
I don't trust the western light novel 'industry'

If it doesn't sell well they'll simply cut their losses and get out, anal-fucking everyone who bought it and leaving them with an incomplete collection. Not to mention the very act of licensing scares off translators from smaller projects.
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>>121285641
>want to support the western industry so we can keep getting anime, manga and light novel over here
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>>121285261
We're at the point where they'll only stop if it sells like shit.

Oh wait no Vertical didn't do that when GTO The Early years sold worse then anything they'd ever released.

We're at a point where we don't even have to worry about them fucking up the cover like what happened with Spice and Wolf. Even if the guy they have running the Vertical tumblr said he'd wish they could change every single cover to something that would sell more.

...wait
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>>121285666
>anal-fucking everyone who bought it and leaving them with an incomplete collection.
You do realize that releasing something that doesn't sell is very bad money-wise...?
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>>121285718
Take your epic memes and go back to where you came from.
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>>121285752
That's not up to them to decide, it's up to the author/Japanese company.
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RIP Vertical. Translating Monogatari would be the death of the translation team.
>>121285753
That's why translations that need to maintain a level of income is the worst shit, even worse than fanmade ones.
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>>121285641
>>121285784
Seriously, fuck off back to reddit you fucking retard.
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Did they only announce LNs?
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I'm not really sure how I feel about this. I used to like Vertical for some of the stuff they published but I feel like even though they try to license some really good stuff they're pretty flaky on follow-ups.

Like, they published Litchi Hikari Club a while ago and never bothered releasing the prequel manga that goes with it. They said they were going to try releasing some of Asumiko Nakamuras anthologies and we've gotten nothing. And they have a recent tendency to only publish titles that have anime adaptations in production. I can see why they do it for money but it's really dissatisfying for some manga readers. Sometimes their name and quality is shielded by all the good stuff they license.
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>>121285931
I just wish they can capture the writing style. I hear translating Monogatari is hard.
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>>121285752
Like the based Harhui covers? No problem with that, books get diffrent covers between US and the UK/Aus, let alone the US and Japan
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>>121285834
Isn't that only if they specify "don't change the cover" and even then Vertical and argue a change if they really wanted?

I know something like that happened with Animal Land but that wasn't put out by Vertical.
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>>121285931
is there anyone actively translating anything monogatari related right now?
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>>121284889
>november

Wow, so early ! I read it years ago but good for you casuals.
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>>121285752
>Oh wait no Vertical didn't do that when GTO The Early years sold worse then anything they'd ever released.
This is why it was bullshit when they acted like if Gundam the Origin didn't get a certain number of preorders they'd cancel the release.
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This plus the Kissshot fig (re)announced a few weeks ago. Kizu is happening this year guys, it is happening.
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Even if they don't do the rest of the series at least they got the best one.
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>>121286053
I know they changed the cover for Litchi Hikari Club and it annoyed Usamaru Furuya enough that he objected, so they had to change it again. But even then the final version they chose doesn't look as good as the Japanese cover.
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>>121286123
>at least they got the best one

Bakemonogatari is still the best of all, Kizu is not bad but it's not as good as some people think either, blinded by the hype.
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>>121285641
>I also want to support the western industry so we can keep getting anime, manga and light novel over here

A decline in official localizations won't keep them away from American fans, and we have enough plebs buying AoT and other shit to satisfy companies.

I, myself, see no point in buying localized manga if I'm learning the language, can access most of them online for free, and the originals are half the price.

Anime is a different story due to dual-audio (or no english dub at all), but I'd only buy shit I really particularly like.

>we wouldn't get, for example, anime movies like Haruhi and Rebellion in cinemas overseas.

I'm indifferent.
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>>121285261
Nah, this is a different time. They cancelled Zaregoto, Gosick, Shana, Vamp!, Shinigami no Ballad and some other because they weren't a popular thing back then. It was too new for the mainstream fans.

But now Yen Press is licensing the shit out of everything, so other companies are giving it a go, too. Seven Seas already gave up, but Vertical is a bro-tier company. Besides, they're releasing Kizu, not the whole Monogatari series.
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>>121286118
It's happening
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>>121286127
No. 1 sign of an author who has never been published internationally before. All Amerishit covers are bad, all UK/Australian, HK and Japanese covers are good. Others are variable. It's just a fact of life.
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>>121286079
Koyomimonogatari translation seems to still be ongoing
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Just one thing is sure, it can't be worse than BT's Kizu.
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>>121286046
>>121286079
That's the thing. It's a popular series so you think that there's someone in BT willing to translate it, but there's almost no one interested.
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>>121286261
Baka Tsuki doesn't have proofreaders.
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>>121286194
>Shana
Still fucking mad at Viz for that.
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>>121286046
Translating anything by Nisio is hard. He uses WAY too many puns and play on words that can only work and be understood in Japanese.

Even Medaka Box was hard to translate.
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>>121286230
Vertical's Tezuka covers are all pretty good.
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>>121286230
All manga/LNs published in the UK are just imported from the US though.
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>>121286118
>Kizu
>Happening
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>>121286375
Believe Anon, believe.
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>>121286334
Not talking about manga, which generally retain the cover for good reasons, but books in general. Especially fantasy/sci fi books.
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>>121286305
It's not just lack of proofreading. There's a lot of mistranslated lines.
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>>121286045
I feel u man. They fly went to shit with all this mainstream shit.
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>>121286194
>It was too new for the mainstream fans.
Tokyopop was doing the same thing long before they tried, it wasn't new. They had Slayers, .//Hack, NHK, Trinity Blood, even Twelve Kingdoms and Kino's Journey.
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>>121286375
https://archive.moe/a/thread/92208016/#92222222
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Give me Kabukimonogatari and I'll be happy. I need to see what the actual story is rather than the butchered monstrosity Shaft put out.
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>>121286456
ebin hoe
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>>121286434
The mainstream shit makes them money. I do wish they released more alt manga though.
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>>121286045
>they published Litchi Hikari Club a while ago and never bothered releasing the prequel manga that goes with it.
I hate when that happens, but I hate it more when they just ignore the sequels that are just as long as the original series.

Goddamnit Yen Press, I just want more Bungaku Shoujo.

>>121286440
And none of that worked. I don't think anyone knew what a LN was until they started publishing Haruhi. Hell, I bet most people don't even know Slayers is a LN.
>Kino's Journey
Still mad.
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>>121286556
I hate Yen Press so fucking much.
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>>121286261
>Just one more thing, people who get paid to translate are much better than people do it for free and mostly as a hobby.

Fuck off retard.
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>>121286328
That's because Chip Kidd designed them.
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>>121286273
It's hard and requires actual skill, that's the problem.
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>>121286646
There are plenty of fan translators who shit all over BT. See that guy who did KnK.
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>>121286604
>>121286556
Yen press very very rarely drops something.
They're still publishing Kuro despite it selling like shit.
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>>121286604
How could you hate them? They're releasing a bunch of Mori stuff in hardcover.
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>>121286646
Are you for real?
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>>121286520
There's so much stuff that would fit their old niche, I hate reading their blog posts where employees write about good manga that they're pretty much never going to license.

At least they released Prophecy I guess.
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>>121285666
I'm optimistic about this. Vertical is probably the best publisher in the states for manga, and they tend to stick it out for series even if they don't sell particularly well.
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>>121286604
I want Amazon to leave.
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>>121286604
They're not a bad company, and I've bought several titles by them (mostly LNs), but it just bothers me. I'd let it pass if they were simply side stories, but we're talking about actual sequels here. On top of not announcing the sequels, they announced a shit ton of other new LNs, meaning that they won't touch BS for several years. I hope they don't do the same to DRRR!! and Index, eventually.

Besides, they shortened their S&W release span. At least they care.
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>>121286556
>Hell, I bet most people don't even know Slayers is a LN.

Probably. Something I would actually buy, being a Slayers fan, but lo and behold, it was cancelled and I won't buy a single volume. Guess I'll grab the originals but they seem hard to find despite the popularity.
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>>121286725
Is Prophecy good? It looks like it would be shit.
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>>121286767
I hope DRR does well and they decide to release the Baccano LNs.
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>>121286740
Too bad they let everything run out of print.
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>>121286713
Their Otoyomegatari is fantastic.
Is Emma coming in hardcover too?
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>>121286767
Isn't Durarara still pretty popular in the west though? I'd imagine it's sequel will get licensed.
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>>121286604
They could be a lot worse. At least they didn't drop Bungaku Shoujo before finishing the main series.
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>>121286710
Which KnK? If it was Kyoukai no Kanata who was done (read: translated a handful of chapters and left to gather dust) by nakulas, then fuck him.
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>giving your money to a shitty company like that

This is actually kind of sad.
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>>121286440
That reminds me, damn I loved AI Buster. I thought it was the coolest shit.
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>>121286829
I hope someone remembers that Vamp! was licensed several years ago and never released a single volume.

I also hope that Dengeki Climax helps boost the popularity of Dengeki titles in the west (not that it needs it, though, considering SAO, AW, S&W and many others are already being published).

I just want more Shinigami no Ballad.
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>>121286795
I'm assuming it's good because the guy who made it also did Manhole. I haven't read it yet though, the last Vertical manga I bought were Helter Skelter and Utsubora.
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>>121286880
Kara no Kyuokai. The Nasu one.
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>>121286473
What is it really that bad compared to the LN? What did Shaft butcher?
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>>121286852
Yeah. Hardcover omnis, I think. I'm not usually a fan of omnibuses, but their release of Thermae Romae was pretty good, so I'm optimistic.
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>>121286923
>I hope someone remembers that Vamp! was licensed several years ago and never released a single volume.
First time hearing that, what the hell.
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>>121286842

Vertical has admitted that they're in debt, it's not like there's a super high demand for them to reprint anything. They barely sell 4k as it is because faggots say

>buying english translations

and wonder why they drop series. I guess /a/ prefers machine translations or JP-Chinese- English translations from amateurs.
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>>121286894
I wouldn't say they're shitty, but they have some really fucking retarded people working there.
>Which Gundam series would you like us to license?
>Crossbone? Sorry, that's too old.
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Finding downloads/torrents for licensed LN is pretty hard.
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>>121286986
It's an older completed series, I can see why they're doing omnibus versions.
Just hope it's not as expensive as Thermae Romae was.
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>>121286725
I want them to release more Kyoko Okazaki stuff. I have both Pink and Helter Skelter, but it would be great to see some of her older stuff like Tokyo Girls Bravo and Happy House in English, or even a physical copy of River's Edge.
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>>121285402
Vertical has done many series and generally doesn't drop any. They did all of flowers of evil, for example. They try to choose somewhat obscure but still popular series, though that's wavered a bit over the years and some titles don't exactly fit under that banner.
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>>121287030
$35 cover price.
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狗屎发布
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>>121287000
Well, no one wants to wait 10 years for something get translated just so that they abandon the projet after a few volumes.

Might as well learn the language and buy the original.
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>>121286954
It has the worst pages to episodes ratio, they cut out a bunch of character moments with Shinobu, they phoned-in the Jianshi designs, and the scene with Kiss-Shot was rushed as all hell.
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Would you buy more manga if companies only focused on manga that were either being fan translated slowly or not at all?
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>>121287014
Buy it on Amazon kindle. Strip the DRM. Return for a refund.
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>>121287065
That was really funny when they pretended to like the anime on their Tumblr. Hope nobody was checking the guy who runs the Tumblrs twiter while that was happening.
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>>121287161
>the guy who runs the Tumblrs twiter
You mean ed's private feed?
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>>121287108
Definitely.
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I really want to support vertical and see more translation of light novels, but I have already read the stuff in Japanese. Ed Chavez is a super cool guy, though, I always enjoy his panels. Unfortunately, Vertical is cutting back on the cons they do because they realized many of the people who go to the panels are the same people who just want to see Ed talk and they're not actually advertising effectively.
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>>121287108
Given that I really only buy works that I can't read online for free or that I would particularly like to own, the answer is a resounding 'yes'.
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I wouldnt have a problem with english releases at all if they would start doing it right.

But lets take Index as an example. They released volume 1 last november and volume to will come out this month. It has like 22 volumes + specials + testament.

Who the fuck wants to wait years for them to catch up?
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>>121287272
4 months between releases is pretty quick for a translation of that scale. People seem pretty ok with it for Spice and Wolf. More than anything I'm stunned at how fast the original author writes. Even in some of the later volumes (where presumably he doesn't have a lot of material built up), he's putting out a book with two months of turnaround. That's fucking crazy.
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>>121287272
>Who the fuck wants to wait years for them to catch up?
I said the same thing about Haruhi, Bungaku Shoujo and Spice and Wolf. Turns out, Haruhi is completed, so is Bungaku Shoujo and S&W is already on its 13th volume. I didn't even realize.

Time is a scary thing.
Still, it sucks and no one wants to wait that much, specially for a series that has been translated for ages. I believe most people buying the volumes already read them and just want to have them physical, like I did with Haruhi.
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>novel on november
>american screening on december

I want to believe.
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>>121287108
Probably, it's been working pretty well for DGM and Seven Seas.
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>>121287108
I don't know about manga, but I already buy pretty much any LN getting released just for the sake of supporting such a niche market.
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>>121287419
>american screening
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>>121287108
Would buy if licensed.
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>>121287451
>DGM
*DMG
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>>121287405
The problem is that most of the translations on b-t are fucking awful and wildly incorrect. Some are a little better than others, but I know Accel world and monogatari in particular have errors on damn near every other line.
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>>121287519
It's already confirmed they'll screen the movie here whenever it comes out.
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>>121287588
Wait, what? When did this get said?
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>>121287520
Vertical's having a licensing survey tonight or tomorrow.
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>>121287520
>gyaruko-chan
I fucking wish that would get licensed. I would buy that so fast.
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>>121287520
I'd love all those, especially Tsugumomo (would something like that even get licensed due to all the almost nudity and loli?)
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>>121287520
Nice filename.

>>121287622
Not him but SHAFT prez said so in The Rebellion premiere in LA.
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>>121287587
At least in the case of Index, I've heard the translations are pretty good.

Can't say the same about pretty much everything else, but hey, those are not licensed.
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>>121287262
Is he the guy who hates YKK?
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>so many post so quickly
Uh oh, are the butthurt poorfag NEET squad opining about how to support "the industry" again
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>>121287405
>>121287401
Oh, i see. Sounds like something that could happen to me as well.

But i can totally understand that people dont want to wait for them to catch up, seeing as i have all the ln's on my tablet. And honestly, its a long time to wait.
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Speaking of LNs: Any series you'd like to see released or revived (because Seven Seas)?

I'd buy every HakoMari volume.
Twice.
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>>121287657
That's pretty fucking sweet to hear, thanks anon.
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Off topic, but where would I buy translated Kaiji manga?
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>>121287635
>Tsugumomo
That WAS licensed. But by fucking JManga.

So it's like Nichijou in that it was licensed and the the company that licensed it fucking died so it's in limbo forever.
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>>121287692
>Can't say the same about pretty much everything else, but hey, those are not licensed.
The two I listed, accel world and kizu, have been licensed. My point is that it doesn't make sense to say "oh, I've already read these" if you've read the trash that's there for many series. I think you're right in that the index translations are actually not bad (I just skimmed a couple pages and didn't see anything egregious) but they're the exception, and not the rule. Tons of stuff is being licensed for whatever reason and it should be interesting to see where the US LN market goes this year.
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Is there someone I can pay to translate LNs on a per volume basis and have them do a good job?

>>121287745
Seven Seas isn't into LNs and will avoid them, and they're not into rescues
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>if Kizu sells well, we might get the rest of the series.
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>>121286127
Cover changes wouldn't bother me at all if they weren't almost always universally shit. I refuse to believe hiring a good graphic artist is a bad investment.
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>>121287832
>Is there someone I can pay to translate LNs on a per volume basis and have them do a good job?
Given the huge volume of text, I doubt you'd be willing to pay the price a decent translator commands.
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>>121287795
FUCK that's even worse
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>>121287832
>Is there someone I can pay to translate LNs on a per volume basis and have them do a good job?
Yes, any professional translator. The catch is that even LNs, that tend to be short (unless you're the author of Horizon), would be expensive as FUCK. Translator charge a shit ton of money per book.
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>>121287853
I wonder why they don't just keep the original cover. Is it a fear that it won't jive with brick-and-mortar consumers (who I understand are still hugely important in physical book sales) or is it some kind of weird licensing thing with the Japanese publishers?
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>>121287853
How many normalfag books do you read? What you want is to get normal publishers doing LNs, except for in America because American covers always suck balls.
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>>121287795
>So it's like Nichijou in that it was licensed and the the company that licensed it fucking died so it's in limbo forever.
I will never forgive Bandai for this. Fuck. Muh Nichijou.
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>>121285641
>supporting the middle man who wants the bread, the money of the bread, the bakery, and your house.

Having the west putting its nose in a media I enjoy for not being bound by the same rules would be stupid.

I'd rather learn japanese and enjoy the original product for what it is : a story who was by some japanese man/woman and his editor while being free do things like talking about/drawing rape, showing nudity or any other shit he wanted to do as long as he published his shit where he should.
Unless I can win money by licensing translating and selling it, then I'm ok with it and I think that it would help our community a lot and I'm all for it.
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>>121287988
Man, I'd forgotten about the whole Bandai-Nichijou thing.

Thanks, anon.
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>>121287970
A cover is an ad for the book. Different demographics need diffrent adds. This is standard practice with normal books - even between countries that speak the same language, covers will be changed.
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>>121287795
Fuck, there was a couple series I was waiting for that had the same thing happen to them. RIP in pieces, aborted english releases of Hyakki Yakoushou and Vibrator Company.
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>>121287717
>poorfag
I buy shit from Japan directly, I don't need localized shit.
There's absolutely no point to selling shit that simply not only don't have audience around casuals, but also can be found around web much faster.
Official localization is killing fandom, not helping it.
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>bitching about different covers
As long as the art inside is unchanged and the translation is good, the sacrifice is worth it. I hate fucking seeing good series getting "picked up" killed by people like larethian. Or those fucks at Viz/Tokyopop who take my money and jet.
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>>121288063
I suppose the reality is still that many customers won't know the original and so there's not much motivation to keep the original for the sake of "purity" or whatever.
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>>121284889
I won't read it again, but I'll buy it.
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>>121287520
Is manga that's only use is for masturbation material get licensed often?
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>>121287970
The idea for S&W was to ditch the cover to draw in normalfags. Then yen realised that only anime fans would actually buy them anyway and threw the idea out.
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>>121288099
I really don't see any logical thread in your statements. How exactly is a larger overseas audience that pays for content a bad thing, now?
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>>121288073
Oh and Hyakki even managed to get far enough to have an Amazon page. It's been like this for five years.

http://www.amazon.ca/Beyond-Twilight-Ichiko-Ima/dp/1934496685/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&
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>>121287949
Thank god for js06.
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>Haruhi
>Kieli
>Spice & Wolf
>Book Girl
>No Game No Life
>Dungeon
>Durarararara!!
>Log Horizon
>Hataraku! Maou-sama
>Index
>Accel World
>SAO
>Kagerou Days

Where were you when Yen Press saved the LN west market? Now they only need to release not-ultra mainstream shit and we'll be all good.
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>>121288116
Keeping the orginal is a diffrent kind of ad, aimed at the core fanbase. Most publishers want to hit big, however, so that's why there are often cover changes.
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>>121288182
>How exactly is a larger overseas audience that pays for content a bad thing, now?
Ask AoT and Nurutu about it.
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Hopefully Kizu comes out this year too.
I believe.

But seriously don't most of the series have tons of Japanese only word play. This is probably a one off.

Also they'll need to keep the title the same.
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>>121288182
companies localizing something can end in translations being killed, scans being killed/taken down
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>>121286647
Chip Kidd is a god.

I love his Murakami covers.
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>>121288041
Manga AND anime.

We would have got stupid boxsets like Lucky Star did where you'd get Nanos t-shirt and the back would have her key on it.
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>>121288182
Hiveminder / butthurt poorfag mentality
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>>121288237
Can't wait to see then go up in flames.
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>>121288249
"tons of" is stretching it a bit. Sometimes they do some kanji play, but it's nothing a smart translator can't work around.
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>>121288237
>Book Girl
I've been trying to find a download for this for so long that I gave up. I can't even find the raws for it.
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>>121288249
>Also they'll need to keep the title the same.
They'll probably call it "Kizumonogatari: [subtitle]", just so people can actually read the title.

I just hope it's not something stupid like "A Vampire Love Story" or somethign Twilight-like like that.
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>>121287627
Will my request for Keyman ever come true
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I mean I know the vocal minority of /a/ are entitled leech NEETs but surely your cognitive dissonance can't be so strong as to think more money for what you like is bad....?

Do you understand they need funding to make things?
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>>121288182
Do you remember Shakugan no Shana
>multiple volumes translated in BT
>LICENSED BY VIZ
>translations taken down
>Viz releases TWO FUCKING VOLUMES and never again
Enjoy your no more translations, official or fanmade.
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>>121288269
In the case of LNs, this is a mercy killing. They're trash 95% of the time. Even manga is often translated by novices who are learning Japanese as they go. The only thing it's good for is increasing awareness in the hopes of a better translator or a proper publisher picking it up.

>>121288307
I'm talking about paying for stuff and I'm happy with the expansion of the English LN market. How is this poorfag or butthurt?
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>>121288249
>strongest vampire in the world
>gets arm ripped off by araragi

i don't even care for this show anymore but fuck me that entire sequence is stupid.
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>>121284889
If they promise to translate the rest of the novels I'll buy 50 copies, the anime cut off almost everything and all the fan translators drop it.
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>>121286740
That's true. Someone said previously that they didn't let GTO die despite low sales.

I guess I can cautiously trust Vertical.
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>>121288389
You can only find the first volume online. I don't think anyone has uploaded the rest.
>raws
Can't help you with that.

Buy it; it's worth it.
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>>121288249
They announced it as KizuMonogatari, they would have come up with a new title for the announcement if they were going to use one at all. The worst you'll have to put up with is the capitalization.
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>>121288424
The vocal minority here are normalfag redditors like you.
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I see a huge difference between buying localised LNs and localised manga.
Mainly because LNs are harder to translate well, so most fan translations are trash and also because reading manga in Japanese is generally easier than trying to read a full novel.
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>>121288389
Buy it. Books are not that expensive.
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>>121288488
They finished the series, but they've cited shit sales as their reason for not licensing anything else GTO-related.
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>>121288424
This is only good to fill in gaps in the story for those who want to read a better translation. Fuck all money will go to VOFAN / Nisio unless you buy the Jap books.

>>121288470
I don't think you actually read Kizu.
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>>121288453
That was fucking Viz, though. They fucked up, along with Tokyopop and Seven Seas, back in the day. They released tons of series and killed them after one or two volumes (Gosick, Kino, Shana, Shinigami no Ballad, etc).

Vertical and Yen Press at least finish their stuff. So far, they haven't dropped anything, as far as I know. It helps that people are actually buying the damn books now.
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>>121288424
Stop it already, it's just embracing to look at.
>don't want to buy shit I can easily download and probably read it already long time ago
>can buy original anytime
>hurrdurrr u must be a poorfag NEETXD
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>>121288537
But they licensed that side story after they had finished GTO the Early Years.
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>Chaika will never get brought over
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>>121288470
Something tells me you didn't read Kizu
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>>121288249
>they'll need to keep the title the same.
The title can't be translated.
Is there a word who can describe scar/bruise story and damaged good story ?

But well, even if the word play isn't that great anymore, the story alone make it better than most LNs you can find.


>Oshino Meme will shines like never in that one
I predict a lot of threads made by anons who will be all over his dick like what happened after Kaiki MSS2.
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>>121288506
>doesn't know what normalfag means
>USI makes him think everyone is a vocal brat like him
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>>121284889
I will wait for the scans, sir.
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>>121288581
Someone wasn't around for the Pedo neets being butthurt and confused why people won't financially cripple themselves to give them things for free.
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>>121284889
Are they better than Yen Press?
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>>121288558
>Fuck all money will go to VOFAN / Nisio unless you buy the Jap books.
From what I've heard from Ed at his panels, a fairly significant portion actually goes back to the Japanese company. How much of that goes to the actual author I don't know, but the revenue for the company is what matters when deciding whether to maintain a series (not that monogatari is hurting in popularity). Many titles require them to publish a certain number and they are forced to pay per book published rather than book sold (Japan/US difference, apparently) so they can easily lose money if something sells poorly. Still, Vertical is very deliberate in their releases and they carefully gauge interest rather than shotgunning any garbage they can a la Tokyopop.
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>>121288605
Yen Press is doing the manga. If it sells well enough, maybe they'll go for the LN.
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>>121288580
They all fucked up back then, everyone licensed loads of shit that no one bought, because it was really shit. Exactly the same thing that caused the video game crash a few decades ago.
Yen were tiny back then so came through it without dropping anything.
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>>121288664
>Pedo neets

Man you are on the wrong board/website.
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>>121288605
Who cares? Chaika is garbage-tier, like most LNs.
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>>121288605
At least we have the manga.

Hey, maybe they will bring the novels if the manga is popular enough. It happened to Durarara!, No Game no Life and Maou-sama.
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What would you buy if it was licensed?

Not fishing for what's popular on 4Chan that isn't being translated and might make Vertical money I promise.
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>>121285461
But no one is translating this shit.
I can't read Japanese, so giving this people money is the only way. Besides, why do give a shit on what people spend their money?
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>Why doesn't japan ever care about outside their country, why don't they translate?
>What, they're translating stuff, errr no thanks, i'll buy the original
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So monogatati is mainstream normie garbags now, take note friends and redirect all *tarai threads to /v/!
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>>121288664
>pedo neets
Seriously, fuck off and go back to reddit, you look like huge fucking retard.
You will have more luck on some shitty animeforum, since they are major audience for his kind of crap.
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>>121288608
why would i read this shitty series?
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>>121288537
That's fine with me. I'm just still bitter I have to wait like 4 years for Yen Press to catch up to fan translations of No Game No Life. (If they even get that far.)

The western industry as I see it operates like parasites. They lie in wait while fans do work, see what's popular, then finally license the content, kill fan projects, and delay the progress of the translations (that were fine without them) by 5 years or more depending on if they drop it.
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>>121288716
>vocal minority
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>>121288795
Oh, it's bait, nevermind.
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>>121288612
Isn't the anime called "Ghostory" in the west?
They could easily call it "Scarstory", even if it doesn't make any sense, just for the sake of making a compound word.
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>>121288237
>one Index volume every 4 months
>it'll take them 23 years to catch up
Y-yey yen press
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>>121288772
>monogatari
>liked by nurutufags
What?
The guy you're replying to is an idiot though.
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>>121288702
Do you have a source for this?

I don't have a source for the fact they don't get money, but considering how most licensing works for shit like anime and manga it's more likely they don't then they don't.
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>>121288669
Better in what sense? Vertical releases more slowly than YP in many cases and I hear they pay translators somewhat better. I was talking to the guy who translated S&W at Otakon, and he was saying they (YP) were giving like 2 month deadlines for translation on some newer works, which is about half what he had when working on S&W (which YP also published, but it was before this new LN push). So it's possible the translations are better, though a lot of that is subjective. They also tend to work closely with the Japanese company, releasing the books in a variety of formats depending on what is best for the series and what the author wants.
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>>121288732
The DRRR novels are being translated. Oh snap.

I'm hesitant on buying the Chaika manga considering it ends when Freddy joins.
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>>121288795
>>121288758
Nice shitposting faggots. Fuck off.
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>>121288580
Vertical dropped Drops of God.
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>>121288812
That's an unofficial localisation IIRC.
Aniplex of America just released all of monogatari with the titles transliterated only.
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Now that Baka-Tsuki will probably pull down the Kizu LN sooner or later, can someone upload the PDF? The PDF download link/torrent link on BT doesn't work. Fuck 4shared.
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>>121284911
I'm confused here. Wasn't this originally a manga?
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>>121288830
My source is literally asking him at a panel where he attended. You might try his official twitter, he has a bunch of ask fm questions there. https://twitter.com/vertical_ed
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>>121288702
The whole "import from japan to support the creators" has always been bullshit. That money goes to a publisher, just like it does if you bought localized stuff.
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>>121288772
Dude its OK you fit in you don't have to try so hard the normies aren't here.

We can call a spade a spade now.
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>>121288753
>Why doesn't japan ever care about outside their country, why don't they translate?
When did anyone ever say this?
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>>121288731
>Who cares?

Obviously I do. What a silly question.

Yes most LNs have shit writing, Chaika included, but saying that in a LN localization announcement thread seems redundant.
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>>121288865
>Vertical releases more slowly than YP in many cases
They usually release manga volumes every two months. YP is generally every three months.
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Will this mean that BT translations are going to can Monogatari as a series? If so I'm going to kill everyone.
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Manga > LN > VN > Anime
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>>121288933
He is right, though. The guy he replied to is a normalfag.
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>>121288897
http://ln.m-chan.org/v3/series.php?SID=44
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>>121288903
It's both a manga and a prequel LN about Guren, but they're done by Shueisha and Kodansha respectively for some reason.
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>>121288928
You know who it doesn't go to? Middlemen trash localization companies.
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>>121288903
It's a spin off LN, the manga is already out in English.
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>>121284889
Help.
Does this go into commercial spam/advertising or just rule violation?
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>>121289025
It goes up your ass.
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>>121289025
Discussing the licensing of a major series is on topic.
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>>121288943
It started as a Vertical localization thread, not an "LN localization announcement thread".

Chaika is still shit.
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>>121288986
>if you're not a pedophile you're a normalfag
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>>121288969
Probably not unless they confirm they're doing the whole series.

>>121289025
You're a fucking moron. This goes under /a/ related news you faggot. Do you report buyfag threads as well?
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>>121288928
It is true for anime, since the Japanese BDs cost a lot more.

>>121289016
Yen press and Vertical are ok. Wouldn't give my money to viz ever though.
Speaking of which viz is owned by Shueisha anyway, how are they middlemen?
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>>121289016
>I am terrified of mainstream anime
Sasuga /a/
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>>121285584
Does anyone even rip and upload LN to nyaa?
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>>121288830
But they do for anime and manga? As soon as the company publishing it in the west makes a profit, they start paying royalties.
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>>121284889
Who cares?
If you've been into anime/manga for longer than a couple years you should've been learning Japanese a long time ago. It's pretty sad that the current /a/ is all for this instead of actually supporting the original author.
Just goes to show how much this place has declined, glad I barely come on here anymore.
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>>121289095
Vertical is owned by Kodansha as well. And Viz honestly isn't that bad anymore. Their Signature line is pretty great.
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>>121289117
Who are you quoting? Because the post that you linked do didn't say any of the things that your greentext says.
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>>121289095
>It is true for anime, since the Japanese BDs cost a lot more.
That doesn't make a difference. The anime studios get paid a flat rate for a series, then all the money from sales goes to the publisher.
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>>121289095
They're still considered a separate company, they still have to pay Shueisha and Shogakukan if they want to license a series.
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>>121289145
>royalties
You mean digital pennies.
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>>121289043
God if only

Hey are hemorrhoids black or red?
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I hope they put it up for pre-order soon.
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>>121289163
>>121289156

>>>/jp/
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>>121288753
This shit doesn't support industry because west is fucking irrelevant with it's sales.
Only ignorant newfags think it's relevant and supporting anything, not to mention that most of western audience don't care about anything other big 3 or some really popular entry level shit, they won't buy some unknown manga/LN which like already happend, will be simply ignored, and thanks for that, no one will make a fan translation because it's already officially owned.
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>>121289169
>The anime studios get paid a flat rate for a series, then all the money from sales goes to the publisher.
And normally the publisher gets the anime made in the first place.
Unless it's a sunrise or Kyoani original, studios are almost always just contracted.
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>>121289016
>translators should work for free

anon, that's how you get shity translations
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>>121289057
>>121289092
>plz buy
Doesn't seem like a thread for discussion.
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>>121289067
Well, why woul he/you even mention pedophile's on /a/? There is absolutely not reason to. That and looking down on neets makes you a normalfag.
>>
Why do you people care about the money going to the author again? Nisio is probably swimming on yen, pussy and cocaine right now, he doesn't need more money.
You're paying for the translation and supporting the translation of the other novels, which we will never get otherwise.
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>>121289137
The mainstream ones, but obscure ones you'll need to find somewhere else.
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>>121289156
Learning enough Japanese to read Nisio prose whilst having a busy life is hard anon.
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>>121289163
Ignore the retard, /a/non.
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>>121289222
>still believing the delusional narrative that anime will always be a turboloser exclusive thing
Just like video games, am I right?
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>>121289253
You get shitty translations regardless. Nothing about being official automatically makes something well done.
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>>121289277
Its stating a fact not a judgment, NEETs have no money but want things for free.

The last instance was pedophiles mad at Fakku.
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>>121289255
The pictures are enough to show what the thread is about.

Stop being an idiot.
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>>121289253
Some official translations have been utter garbage in the past.
Though I've never found anything quite as bad as JP>CN>EN tumblr group scans
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>>121287014
What about S&W? I found it on my first try
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>>121289156
>learning Japanese
I tried. My mind is better suited to spacial, kinetics, and interpersonal relationships than language.

Some people just aren't predisposed to learning Japanese.
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>>121289293
>a busy life
If you spent as much time studying as you do shilling on 4chan you'd be set.
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>>121289293
>Having a life
There's your problem.
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>>121289372
Spice and Wolf is pretty popular. Try finding the raws for Bungaku Shōjo or some other obscure ones.
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How's their Shin Sekai Yori translation?

I loved the anime and I wanna buy the novels.
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>>121289336
Most translations of LNs that have come out in recent years are leaps and bounds ahead of the shit on baka tsuki or wherever. While it's true that a lot of shit during the Tokyopop years had awful translations by whatever idiot they could find who could look up kanji, newer releases tend to be pretty well vetted and checked. If you seriously think that professional translations don't have a leg up on 90% of the fan translating community, you're delusional.
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>>121289368
Stop baiting you utter faggot.

>>121289381
>Tripshit
Filtered.

>>121289407
>>121289414
I study maths at a really good university. This is the first time I've been on /a/ for a week.
Sage for blogshit.
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>>121289368
>NEETs have no money but want things for free.

Thats not true.

And why would pedophiles be mad at fakku? Those things have nothing to do with each other.
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>>121288753
>Why doesn't japan ever care about outside their country, why don't they translate?
You're not on plebbit mate.
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>>121289446
That has a lot less to do with licensing and more to do with the simple fact that a lot of stuff isn't ripped in Japan, even for decently popular series.
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All the recent licensed or announced licensed LNs will have their translations die or taken down
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>>121288423

Probably not, SEven Seas is in more of a position to publish it and they don't see a market because they suck at marketing ("hurr western-cape-comic themed manga has no chance in the West")
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>>121289446
It's weird, though; Bungaku Shoujo was pretty damn popular back in the day. Tohko was getting voted most popular female character every year, and the series even got a movie by I.G. Production.}
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>>121289381
>tripfag

Kill yourself. No one cares about your life.
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>>121289448
They've only done the manga.
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>>121287401
I don't know the exact difficulty of translating plus bureaucracy with getting rights, negotiation with the Japanese companies etc, but the chinks or more specifically, Taiwanese have no problem churning out a volume or 2 in less than that time. Hell. lots of LNs/manga tend to take a month or 2 to catch up with Japan or at most behind by a volume or 2.

I guess by the end of the day, it's really just a matter of demand. Anime is much more popular among Asian countries so they're willing to put in more resources and hire more people.
>>
EOProblems
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>>121289469
Does studying math actually help you land an actual job?
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>>121289368
>NEETs have no money but want things for free.
>/a/ is full of NEETS that's what the epic maymays said
>they have no money and not actually buying shit all the time
Nice stereotype stucking in your empty head, you obviously is not regular here.
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>>121289381
>normie tripfag
Filtered, kill yourself, etc.
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>>121289517
It's been licensed by Yen Press. All the volumes have been translated already.
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>>121289568
Yes, definitely. Though I think the quality of the university helps a lot.
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>>121289554
>Anime is much more popular among Asian countries so they're willing to put in more resources and hire more people.
I imagine this is a lot of it. CN translations of light novels have been around for a long time and are far more prevalent, so there are more translators who are capable and willing to do it. It's hard to find people in America who know Japanese, can write publishable English (hiring editors is expensive), and can do it in a short time frame.
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>>121289336
All the good translators want money. Free translations make certian you get a shity translation.
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>>121289584
Uh kid? Vocal minority != majority
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>>121289448
Really?

Fuck.
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>>121289639
You are the one who is vocal here.
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>>121289635
I've seen a lot of very solid manga scanlations.
The problem is prose is harder to translate well, since you really need to be able to write as well as translate, hence most LN translations on the net are shit.
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>>121289635
Offical translations of animu, VN, and mangoes says otherwise.
Especially MangaGamer's IMHHW. God, those are unreadable.
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>>121289594
Ok, but you specifically mentioned the raws. Raws are often pretty hard to find just because no one bothers going and tearing apart a book to upload it, and a lot of books never get an ebook release. I don't know much about that specific series, but I've been completely unable to find proper scans for many series and I've ended up buying a lot of shit as a result (not that I regret that).
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>>121289639
Where do you think you are?
Holy shit, even judging from this chains of comments will show you that you are full of shit.
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>>121289703
If My Heart Had Wings wasn't done by MangaGamer, though.
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>>121289551
It isn't about my life. It is about predisposition to certain skills. Not everyone can just learn Japanese, and that is a fact.
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>>121284889
320 pages? I thought Kizu was a tiny tankoubon.
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>>121289746
>w-where do you think you are
Who left this projector on /a/?
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>>121289635
Plenty of bad translators want money too. Anime, manga, and now LNs just aren't a big enough market to make it affordable to hire top notch translators.
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>>121289522
Wait for VIZ to release Hero Academy and then when that sells amazingly, expect Keyman and Don't Meddle In My Daughter to be gobbled up.
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>>121289787
Tankobon is for manga and other serial publications. Kizu is a light novel.
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Call me when they actually do something relevant, like actually translate things that is no one translating.
Oh, right, it would be actually not pointless, and would require good effort to spend time on translating things nobody even knows about.
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>>121289751
Yeah my bad, they were distributed by MangaGamer. MoeNovel was the one in charge of publishing them.
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>>121289779
Point is, kill yourself. No one wants faggots like you on /a/. Fuck off back to reddit if you want to have an identity that badly.

Filtered.
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>>121289860
>Call me when they actually do something relevant, like actually translate things that is no one translating.
The BT translation of monogatari is pretty shit though
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>>121289860
>would require good effort to spend time on translating things nobody even knows about.
How is translating monogatari any easier than translating some other LN people haven't heard of?
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>>121289799
I've seen you in other threads today.
You should put some tripcode/name so I can filter you forever.
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>>121289888
I've been here all winter and you are literally the first person to have a problem with me.
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>>121289919
Any kind of translated monogataris will always be shit.
Official ones would be suffering more since they'll try to localize every jokes and puns so that they can reach to a wider audience.
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>>121289991
>someone else called out the shitty projection "w-we're all huge losers here like me" meme

Maybe there is hope for /a/.
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>>121290050
There's a big difference between "localized and I don't like it" and "blatantly incorrect". The ones on baka tsuki are the latter. The dudes who "translated" it are either completely clueless, incredibly lazy, or working from machine-translated output. My money is on door number 3. Maybe a little of the other two.
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>>121290041
I saw someone telling you to fuck off earlier in another thread.
Kill yourself.
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>>121289983
It's easier comparing to some other his works.
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How do professional translations handle japanese-specific puns and culture references?

Does yen press translate the afterwords?
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>>121290041
>being this new
>being a tripfag
>lying

I have seen people telling you to kill yourself in other threads.
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>>121290073
>>w-we're all huge losers here like me
Now who's projecting here.
I'm just pointing out that the 'vocal minority' here are not the one who doesn't share your shitty opinion.
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>>121290152
>Does yen press translate the afterwords?
They do, at least in the novels I own.
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>>121290152
>How do professional translations handle japanese-specific puns and culture references?
That entirely depends on the series. The guy who did haruhi changed the "color timer" from ultraman to "danger will robinson", for example. For most translations aimed at a general audience (in this case, that didn't grow up in Japan watching ultraman) the goal is to maintain the same feeling.

Sometimes there are other interesting dilemmas, like if the original was simply incorrect. In the original haruhi, there was a line that referenced the sand people in star wars (the tuskens) and mentioned their glowing yellow eyes. But in Star wars, the glowing eyes were Jawas, not sand people, so he actually changed the original incorrect reference.
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>>121290217
You're the one projecting as you used "where do you think we are" which means you're a failure assuming everyone else is too. That's the meaning of the meme
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This thread is shit. Kill yourselves.
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>>121290201
Stick around for a while, I'm actually highly respected in this community for my tastes, opinions, and general demeanor.

Remember: B’shimush chachamim
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>>121290201
Haha this is 4chan telling people to kill themselves and fuck off and hang themselves is daily threadly banter

Do you think 4chan is a hugbox or something?

Jump off a bridge
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>>121290152
I only on "Love at Fourteen" vol. 1 can't get used to saying that by Yen Press, but it does include the afterward.

Seven Seas' D-Frag does a pretty good job with the cultural references and such. No obvious memeshit or pop culture references. I think that's a thing of the past.
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>tfw no English publisher interested in Yumekui Merry or Chihayafuru
>Viz will never bring over ToLoveRu or Boku Girl
>Yozakura Quartet ded as fuk and no one want to save the license

I'm excited for Jojo though on a fucking three month release cycle god damn it
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>>121290329
Oh man.
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>>121290152
I only own Bungaku Shoujo, but they did translate the afterwords in that.

They call Tohko a goblin instead of youkai
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>>121290292
Based this guy. Remember that anons are your enemy.

Remember your life is worthless and you're a disappointment to your family, the only people who ever felt any positive emotion of any kind towards you.
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>>121290347
>banter
How new are you? Back to /b/
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>>121290329
No you doesn't, everyone're just ignoring your abuse of the tripcodes so that it doesn't derail threads.
I don't particularly care if you use tripcodes in whatever ways, but if you're going to be stuck up about it, then I suggest you remove yourself.
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>>121290329
Oh god, just what we need, another tripfaggot with a narcissistic streak.
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>>121290073
There is no hope for /a/ anymore, the last glimmer faded in 2012.
This place is just flooded with cancer of all kinds and now moot is gone.
>>121290329
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>121287832
Shitty translation rates (like what MangaGamer pays) is $0.01 per Japanese character. Good translations go up to like $0.10 a character.

A light novel page has about 800 characters, and a volume has maybe 200-300 pages of text, so that's like $2-25k per volume. At the low range, though, the translator would be better off working a McJob for his time.
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>>121290407
>Bungaku Shoujo
I'm too cheap to buy the book. I wish a nice anon scans it and puts it up online.
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>heh, I'll tell them to fuck off, that'll show em *snort*
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>>121290152
I have Viz's version of Short Cuts by Usamaru Furuya, they tried to keep all the japanese jokes intact but also added a few pages of translation explanations in the back because some of them are difficult to understand.
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>>121290352
I was surprised they brought that over, I have vol 1 as well

>>121290391
Chihayafuru has bilingual editions for some of it
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Reminder all translations are shit and its just the inner 4chanian autist acting like some hivemind approved ones are good
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>>121290347
>banter

How new are you? The phrase, ''trying this hard to fit in'' was made for people like you.

>>121290329
I really hope you arent this delusional.
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>>121290391
>JoJo
I think they're 2-1 versions, though. The first volume of Phantom Blood is over 600 pages long. A three-months wait for volumes that are three times bigger than a normal one doesn't sound too bad.
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>>121290290
>failure
Yeah keep putting words in my mouth.
Maybe you should track back your chain of replies to actually comprehend what kind of shit you're spouting.
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>>121290290
>meme
You are seriously have some brain damage.
>I'm such a special snowflake therefore it means that everybody else is too
Majority of people here are fucked social failures, lots of them, it's being proven many times and pretty much how /a/ operating, retards who think that because they are not same losers as everyone else, suddenly means that /a/ is not so full of losers and actually it's totally otherwise.
That's a whole new level of being dense.
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>>121290391
>ToLoveRu

Do you think it's because the girls are in high school?

This isn't meant sarcastically, I own a porn manga that was licensed and it changed them from freshmen year of high school to college.
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>>121290391
>ToLoveRu
And there are Spanish, German, French and Italian versions.
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>>121290479
Do it, faggot, I want my manga and sequel translations!
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>>121290391
>on a fucking three month release cycle
Stardust Crusaders had it worse.
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>>121290593
That's literally the actual definition of meme. I knew some retard would fuck up and make himself look like an idiot by his own standards. Congrats you're it kid!
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>>121285666
Vertical and Yen Press are not Tokyopop. TP was a small private company always on the verge of going out of business whereas YP and Vertical are part of major publishing companies that are not interested in straining relationships with their Japanese counterparts by canceling shit they previously made a deal on. If you think companies like Kadokawa don't also have a horse in this race when it comes to western localization, then you are deluded beyond belief.
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>>121287704
Yeah but that still shouldn't deter us from putting YKK on the licensing survey
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>>121290523
>Short Cuts
Good taste.
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>>121290593
I bet you think r9k is full of autists collecting good boy points for tendies.

How new are you to 4chan retard
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>>121289846
I was still under the impression that it was a single volume in a similar format.
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>>121290645
>meme
You have no fucking clue what meme is or how it works.
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>>121290608
What manga gets licensed in Mexico
>>Implying only Mexico speaks Spanish
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>>121290111
Literal translation with a whole load of TL notes is where's it at.
Of course, the preferred way of consuming the LN is by actually learning nips like everyone who actually cares.
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>>121290586
Whoops looks like you've made the critical mistake of thinking I give a shit what subhuman plebs like you think!
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>>121290695
>going to /r9k/
Holy shit, just stop posting
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>>121290653
I've simply been saving my money and observing, but that's some good info anyway. I think I'll start my collection soon and add Yen Press to the trusted list.

I still don't like how far behind fan translations they get before they finally decide to license the product, but I can live with it as long as it's not abandoned totally.
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>>121290695
Not as new as you are.
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>>121289860
No one is translating Seraph
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>>121290695
>How new are you to 4chan retard
You must be new to /a/.
Don't forget to lurk more before you start posting your shit.
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>>121290731
A stupid phrase autists like you parrot like "a shit" or "where do you think we are" is THE definition of a meme
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>>121290730
I'm not really sure what you mean. Tankobon refers to a collection of smaller chapters that were previously published. It has nothing to do with light novels.
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>>121290645
>meme
Go back to /b/.
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>>121290653
>Vertical and Yen Press are not Tokyopop.
>Tokyopop
>Supporting censorship

I'm glad they're dead. It's ADV I miss.
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>a bunch of turbolosers fell for our pretend posting
Ohhhh man

Poe's law
Any community pretending to be autistic will soon yadda yadda
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>>121290731
>You have no fucking clue what meme is or how it works.
You have no fucking clue what indefinite article is or how it works.
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>>121290735
To Love-Ru and To Love-Ru Darkness are licensed in Spain only.
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>>121290800
I also knew some funny memes
>look at all those memes my finest redditors
You really can't be anymore obvious, aren't you.
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>>121290769
>I still don't like how far behind fan translations they get before they finally decide to license the product
You have to understand that this behavior is exactly what makes them trustworthy. Companies who just blaze ahead and license anything they can, as fast as they can are GOING to drop series and fail. This is what happened with Tokyopop and other similar companies. Throw it all against the wall as hard as you can and see what sticks.
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>>121290530
>I was surprised they brought that over
I didn't even know they were until I saw it in Kino one day. I picked it the fuck up then and there, I love that vanilla shit.
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>I don't like factual definitions of words so I'll say you shouldn't use them
All this Unwarranted Self Importance
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>>121290862
>pretend posting
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>>121290885
Who are you quoting, shitposter-kun?
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>this thread
I knew there was something off with /a/ lately.
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>>121286710
>See that guy who did KnK
You mean the guy who dropped Mahoyo and let fucking Commie take it over?

Fuck him.
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>>121290886
I still don't like it, but you're right. An ideal world can't exist, and this is the compromise I'm forced to make.
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>>121290937
The correct answer is 0%, right?
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>>121289568
'Pure' maths? I don't know. But maths with a side of IT is really useful. Things from Finance to Supply Chain and Logistics are in need of good software developers and people who are, for lack of better way to put it, good with numbers.
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> people hating on vertical
> after they went to /m/, told them they would bring over Origin if they bought it
> /m/ bought it
> Vertical gave us top quality paper with hard covers
> the only thing they fucked up was making the covers bland

Vertical is as based as you can get.
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>>121290973
This thread actually feels a lot like those forced UTD threads.
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>>121290973
There are also a lot of new tripfags lately.
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>>121291024
No, because 0%'s one of the answers.

The trick is that there is no answer to this question, at least not one of the ones given.
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>>121291051
>the only thing they fucked up was making the covers bland

And that wasn't even their fault. IIRC Sunrise decided on the covers and said take them or gtfo.
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>>121291051
Everything I've seen out of vertical has been class-act shit. Of course they're in it to make money, but I also get the very strong feeling that they want their customers to be happy and build a long-term relationship with them.
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>>121291024
Nah it's actually D.
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>>121290973
It's this one guy shitposting about memes repeatedly.
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>>121284889
All this buthurt, and no one has asked the most obvious question: why are they starting with kizu and not bake? Bakemonogatari is probably the most recognized title, so why start with kizu? Is it becasue kizu is only one volume?
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>>121290607
It's got something to do with that. Viz doesn't have a ton of lewd stuff in their library, aside from stuff like Ranma but that gets a pass because its "classic.

I mean I was surprised when Seven Seas released Monster Musume here in the west. I thought that lewd harem series had no place in the English manga market but god lord Monster Musume fucking exploded.
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>>121291024
There's a 50% chance of choosing 25% randomly.
There's a 25% chance of choosing 50% randomly.
There's a 25% chance of choosing 0% randomly.
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>>121290152
Kadokawa's Taiwan branch takes the main meaning, then adds footnote to explain the jokes and references. Don't know about English TLs though.
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The fuck is happening to my thread?
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>>121291127
One volume and it's the big hole in the plot everyone has been waiting years for.
They're being smart if you ask me.
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>>121291127
Because Kizu never.

Or Kizu's about to happen, who knows.
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>>121291125
Reminder : retards on /a/ actually DO NOT KNOW what meme means!
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>>121290937
It's A.
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>>121291051
Really, they are satisfied with a /m/ size population buying their book?
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>>121291127
It's one volume.
It's a prequel to a show everyone already watched.
It hasn't been adapted.
It's ultra relevant to the plot.
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>>121291168
Some retard who doesn't know the dictionary definition of meme throwing a tantrum
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>>121291141
>but god lord Monster Musume fucking exploded.

Yeah I don't think anyone say that coming.

>>121291168
faggots shitposting.
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>>121291198
k mememaster.
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>>121291149
>IT'S ME AUSTIN
>IT WAS ME ALL ALONG
Congratulations, you must be proud to be cancer, well spend time.
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>>121291217
Many of their less popular titles struggle to break 4 digits. Of course /m/ alone wouldn't be sufficient, but if there's a lot of support that can be enough to at least assure breaking even.
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>>121291168
People are just shiposting it to reach autosage because mods aren't doing their jobs.
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>>121291217
No. They want at least 5000 people interested before they touch Kamen Rider Spirits.
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>>121291263
>Its ok to have fun ways I like but not ways that make me sad :(

- /a/, the board that coined "fun things are fun"
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>>121291127
Vertical has a fans first policy. They want to sell what the fans will actually buy. They're pretty savvy.

The fact that it's one volume makes it a light investment, satisfies the fans with content they might not have seen yet in any capacity, and gives them a measuring stick for how well the overall series might do.

If it only does okay then the call it a low yield win and back off. Fans get something they wouldn't have gotten otherwise for a decent price and at decent quality. No one really loses.
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>>121291306
>waa I'm getting insulted why isn't the mod defending my shitty opinions and values
Yeah fuck off to wizardchan
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>>121291325
>>Its ok to have fun ways I like
Go to bed jimmy. You have show and tell tomorrow.
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>>121291217
It's apparently selling well enough after shilling all over /m/ that they posted polls to the board to see what kind of interest in other Gundam series there was. Was pretty funny, they listed Crossbone on it and didn't mention that they meant Crossbone Ghost. The anal devastation in the thread was real.
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>>121288822
Index won't go on forever. At worst it will take just under 10 years. Index part 1 will be fully translated in 5 years.
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>>121291373
>OP explicitly tells people to buy something
>not advertisement
read da rules fagit
>>
Whoa holy shit

Obviously you're all pounding your day fingers in fury

But you
Bring true believers
Actually
You don't ban evade

So

You think

Other people do
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>>121291217
They went to /m/ first, and then a few other mecha communities. The buy in was good enough that they could feasibly commit to bringing over the entire series.

It's just it started doing better so they've had quite a few reprints.

But yeah, the /m/ guys dumped quite a bit of money into it. The guys from Vertical are pretty cool and open with the board. They've even talked hard numbers with regards to how much they would need to make a particular series viable, like Kamen Rider Spirits as mentioned earlier in the thread.

The guy in charge of Vertical's twitter mentions /m/ a lot, and has joked with Tamashii that Bandai watches /m/ too.

You have to remember though the buy in for Gundam Origin was something like 23$ to 29$, but you got colored pages, high quality paper, and hard cover, with the secure spine binding.
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>>121291101
I remember them saying on ASK that Kadokawa didn't keep the original covers on file because they never thought someone would license the special edition, but they were going to make their own covers anyway because they didn't like the originals.
>>
-1 for autosage.
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>>121291490
That's the power of a board that has $ to spend.

Maybe you guys should save up!
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>>121291525
Please, kill yourself.
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>>121291542
People waste literally thousands of dollars on figurines on those buyfag threads, yet I don't see anyone buying that amount on licensed manga/novel.

It's kinda sad, actually.
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>>121291542
Considering /m/ is a board with members that regularly spend $100 to $500 on import gunpla/toku merch/other kits it was a pretty safe bet if they bought in.
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>>121291412
>Was pretty funny, they listed Crossbone on it and didn't mention that they meant Crossbone Ghost.
Elaborate, are they 2 different series?
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>>121291607
>licensed manga/novel
It's only sad for the licensing vendors.
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>>121291525
You're based, don't let some salty butthurt tryhard autists get you down

Remember they fear your posting and want you to go away

Why would you give them what they want? Why placate Your Enemy?
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>>121291490
>and has joked with Tamashii that Bandai watches /m/ too.
Is that why Rightstuff is gonna start putting Gundam stuff on DVD some time in the future?
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>>121290806
That's not quite what it means and the term is used in relation to LNs, including Kizu

ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/傷物語
>2008年2月4日に刊行された『パンドラ』vol.1 SIDE-A 2008 WINNTERに掲載され、同年5月7日に講談社BOXから単行本が刊行された。
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>>121291607
It's sad that people have their priorities straight? It's sad that they don't wait around for some company whose only job is appeasing headband-wearers to decide that they're allowed to have something?
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>>121291689
It's sad for the companies. Why do you sound so mad?
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>>121284889

Wish it was hardcover, but I'll probably pick up a copy on Amazon or BN
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>>121291490
>and has joked with Tamashii that Bandai watches /m/ too.

They'd have to really. /m/ is one of the few active mecha related communities in the west, if they want to bring stuff over it's one of the first places to start to gauge interest. Hell, a Bluefin rep posted on /m/ all the time(Derringer) and actually got in trouble for leaking unannounced gunpla to the gunpla thread a few years ago.

>>121291635
Ghost is the sequel series to Crossbone.
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>>121291689
No one is complaining that they're not buying big 3 shounenshit.
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>>121291337
This actually makes a lot of sense. At first blush it felt a bit like translating Silmarillion before Lord of the Rings.
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>>121291700
>It's sad for the companies.
Well then maybe those companies should release shit those people actually care about instead of massively overpriced books.
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>>121291700
Who cares about those 'translating' companies.
Only animu-only fags can't into moonrunes, and those faggots aren't really the type to read a text-based media.
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>>121290806
>>121291668
Tankoban refers to the size of the book, doesn't it?
I know a Bunkoban is a larger size usually used for special manga rereleased.
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>>121291773
>shit those people actually care about
>"I want them to release things I like, fuck them!"
It's not their fault they're not appealing to you; gotta appeal to the common masses.
>>
What pisses me off about English manga is when companies licensee a manga and then double back and put it on indefinite hiatus when it doesn't sell.

Kodansha USA's treatment of Vinland Saga is horrid. Admittedly I can't think of many other examples but I'm super pissed about Vinland Saga. If you're gonna license something at least commit to it to the end.
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>>121291668
You are correct, I hadn't heard the term used with respect to light novels previously but it seems it strictly refers to any individual book in a larger series.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/単行本
>シリーズとなった本に対するもので、単独に1冊として刊行される本のことである。
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>>121291784
Tankobon means it's a book containing only that one work instead of a magazine containing several different works.
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>>121291784
Tankobon just means collected volume. Bunkoban, Kanzenban, etc. are special versions of tankobon, but it refers to the content, not size.
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>>121291815
>common masses
Which is not exactly the buyfag /a/nons. What's the fucking problem?
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>>121291784
No, it has nothing to do with the size of the book. It's just a single book in a series. The most common use in English parlance is to refer to the periodic publishing of multiple chapters in a single release, in contrast to magazine releases which are a chapter per issue.
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>>121291645
Thanks, friend. Don't worry about me, though. I'm strong minded with an even stronger will. It's why you'll never see me in a "you're new" "no you're the new one!" discussion.

>>121291778
As I've said before, a lot of people aren't predisposed to learning another language. Please don't discriminate.
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>>121291878
The USI of faggots here who don't even have any money
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>>121291832
It's less common nowadays than it was when Tokyopop was licensing garbage every 3 seconds.

>>121291853
>>121291866
>>121291880
Ah, thanks for correcting me.

Well, monogatari has had stories published in magazines, so the term makes sense.
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>>121291878
The first guy said
>That's the power of a board that has $ to spend.
And I was just using the buyfag threads to show that /a/ does, in fact, have $ to spend, but doesn't waste it on reading material.

The ones who do, most probably know moonrunes and buy those. I'm not blaming them or defending the company, I'm just stating facts.
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>>121291913
Nice, I look forward to seeing your posts around
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>>121291913
>Please don't discriminate.
You're not even trying. Learning a new language is never easy for anyone.
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>>121291630
>>121291542
>>121291490
/m/ here, can confirm. I've bought all 8 volumes so far and am in it for the long run. I also spend somewhere from $200-$400 on gunpla and supplies a year. I think next to /toy/ or /g/ we might be one of the most consumerist boards on 4chan. I don't include buyfag threads because the rest of you guys pirating everything makes up for it.
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>>121291959
Yeah that guy is a retard, just ignore him.
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>>121291668
As you quoted, it was published in Pandora first, and then collected into a tank later. The guy you quoted was write about it being a collection of previously published stuff, but wrong in that he failed to take into account that many LNs start as individual chapters published in LN magazines.
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>>121291940
>Well, monogatari has had stories published in magazines, so the term makes sense.
Even if there were only the main series, it would still be tankobon. It's an individually published book. Not that it really matters, since the term isn't used so much when the distinction isn't important (as it is in manga where there is a separate publication of the tankobon after the chapters are out).
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>>121291729
/m/ found out about this before the Japanese fans.
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>>121290623
I support this
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>>121292001
Yeah I've been pre-ordering the volumes as soon as they go up. Just waiting for the last volume pre-order to go up on Amazon now I think. The release is based as fuck, I'm so happy I went all in on this shit.
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>>121288237
How many volumes long are each of these?
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>>121292035
Speaking of LN magazines, whatever happened to Faust?

Lost and forgotten like the translations for Zaregoto and KnK?
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>>121292035
>many LNs start as individual chapters published in LN magazines.
Source? Kizu is the first I've heard of doing this, and pandora in particular is tied to the kodansha box line which is relatively small. The vast majority of shit in stores from gagaga bunko or dengeki bunko, etc is just individual books being put out at once.
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>>121292066
Many LNs have chapters in LN magazines that work like old short story/pulp fiction magazines used to here years and years ago.
The kind of magazines where people like Asimov used to publish their short stories as well as where a lot of shit pulp fiction went.
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>>121292001
>>Not bragging about preordering the rest
>>Not specifying that you don't preorder off of Amazon because Vertical gets more money from Barnes & Noble

Nice try.
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>>121292122
Most are only 6-10 right now.
Haruhi is 12
S&W is 17
But Index has a stupid amount of volumes, over 40 or something.
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>>121291998
Possibly, but based on my experience, I doubt it.

The things in life I'm good at never took any kind of struggle. I simply started out better than other beginners, and polished my talents with hard work after discovering these abilities. That didn't happen for me when I tried to learn Spanish, Cantonese, and Japanese, so I gave up each time.
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>>121291217
/m/ partially bleeds into Tumblr so the fanbase is probably a little larger than what you'd assume.
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>>121292096
I've been waiting, since generally Amazon will have them through third-party sellers for about $19 (sometimes with free shipping since I don't have Prime) a few weeks after release but I did buy vol. VII for full retail price directly from Ed at NYCC so I feel good about that.
>>121292172
I spend money but I don't want to overspend. That'd be like buying gunpla from B&N in the hopes that they decide to get more in.
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>>121292146
>Many LNs
Again, source? Even within just the monogatari series, most of them were simply published at once and not serialized like that. Serialization is the exception and not the rule here.
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>>121292195
We have DJT for a reason, you being lazy doesn't mean there are people who absolutely can't into moonrunes.
Go download anki and be not shitty.
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>>121292191
Yeah but Yen Press does not have very good release schedules. It's been four whole years since they started bringing over Spice and Wolf and they're only at 13 out of 17

They definitely seem to starting to push their light novels harder but still with all their LN licenses that they grabbed up I'm also afraid they're gonna spread themselves too thin.
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>>121292143
Heavy Object and Gary Stu at the Magic School were both published in Dengeki Bunko Magazine. Slayers, way back when, was published in Dragon Magazine.

There are a lot more (and granted, a lot of the LN rags stopped publishing in the last few years, and now we're seeing more webnovels), but those are the first ones that spring to mind that are actually big titles.
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>>121292308
Well, it can't hurt to try again. That is the measure of a man after all. See you in the next DJT, anon.
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>>121292382
Spice and Wolf spent years only being released every 6 months, now it's up to every 4 months and all their new LNs are too.
This is about the same as the average LN release schedule in Japan.
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>>121292122
Why am I even doing this? Released/Originals
>Haruhi: 11/11 (YP's edition of 10 and 11 are just one giant book) - Endless Hiatus
>Kieli: 9/9 - Finished
>Spice & Wolf: 13/17 - Finished
>Book Girl: 8/8 (no sequels licensed) - Finished
>No Game no Life: 0/7 - Ongoing
>Dungeon: 1/6 (I think) - Ongoing
>Durarara! (first part): 0/13 - Finished and has a sequel
>Log Horizon: 0/8 - Ongoing
>Hataraku! Maou-sama- 0/13 - Ongoing
>Index: 1/24 - Finished and has a sequel
>Accel World: 2/17 - Ongoing
>SAO: 2/15 - Ongoing
>Kagerou Days: 0/5 - Ongoing
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>>121292473
>Hataraku! Maou-sama- 0/13 - Ongoing
I kind of want to get the LN when it comes out, but holy fuck with their release schedule it'll be finished by the Tokyo Olympics.
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Who did the NHK novel
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>>121292473
>Book Girl: 8/8 (no sequels licensed) - Finished

I was disappointed about this, but I guess nobody reads Book Girl anyway.
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>>121292646
Tokyopop
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>>121292412
They only got side stories and stuff like that published in magazines, the full things are in teh LNs only. Dengeki Bunko and Dragon Magazine are both bimonthly and LNs come out every four months or so, there's no possible way for them to actually publish half a LN for every series Dengeki or Fujimi does in every issue.
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>>121292646
The author
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>>121292646
Tokyo Shit Pop
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>>121292412
You've given two current examples and one from decades ago compared to literally dozens of other titles that aren't released that way. It's a thing, but I don't think it has anything to do with why 偽物語 is listed as 単行本 on amazon despite not ever being serialized beforehand.

Anyway, this is kind of a silly discussion since the original post had a number of misunderstandings to begin with. Even reading many Japanese descriptions of the word it seems to either mean essentially nothing (meaning "single book from a series") or it refers to a collection of serialized chapters (like how we use tankobon in English).
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>>121292692
>I guess nobody reads Book Girl anyway.
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>>121292473
>>No Game no Life
Didn't notice this on the list before. How is that suppose to work with the loli content?
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>>121292473
How do I read this? I'd assume it's translated vols/raws available, but
>Haruhi: 11/11 (YP's edition of 10 and 11 are just one giant book) - Endless Hiatus
>>Spice & Wolf: 13/17 - Finished
is telling me otherwise
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>>121292692
>>121292743
"this" meaning the short and side stories weren't licensed.
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>>121292069
please don't lewd the EXTREEEEME
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>>121292755
Loli isn't illegal in the US so long as it doesn't involve real, physical 3DPD. Why do you think some schools have students read Lolita?
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>>121292787
The words indicate the status of the series in Japan. Thought that was pretty obvious.
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>>121292787
Title - Number of volumes released in English - Number of volumes released in Japan - Status of the series in Japan.

Haruhi's status isn't "finished", but it's not "ongoing" either.
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>>121292743
I saw a bunch of Book Girl volumes at Book Off the other day for five bucks each.
Is it any good?
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>>121292755
There are multiple self aware jokes within the LN about it staying family friendly. There's no problem.
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>>121292853
For five bucks? Yes, it is.

But seriously, I love the series. The first volume is kind of average, but the rest of the series is pretty damn good. Be prepared to get depressed with every volume, though.
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>>121292853
I love it.
I hope it's gonna be 4 cour TV anime.
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>>121292726
>single book from a series
Ironically, it actually specifically refers to books that stand on their own. Somehow it got twisted to mean books with no other content in them and got applied to manga that were serialized. So it has sort of lost meaning in that sense. I think the amazon listing is that way because any individual book in that format is 単行本, as opposed to 文庫本 or 全集. Terminology is ridiculous.
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