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How do you feel about the newest Saber clone?

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How do you feel about the newest Saber clone?
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I want to fuck them all.
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Where does this page come from?
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>>119505478
Source?
This is more than a clone.
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This is madness! Who keeps making them?
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>>119505478
It's Narita who's a better writer than that hack Nasu, so she'll probably be better than all the previous Sabers.
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>>119505508
El-Melloi Case Files
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>>119505478
Now post the real page
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>>119505508
I'm assuming this is from the first volume of Fate/strange fake which was released this week.
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>>119505538
>implying you have ever read anything written by nasu
Being an EOP must be cruel
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>>119505609
Early spoilers?
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>>119505609
It's from Lord El-Melloi II Case Files
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>>119505609
>>119505813
No, it's from El-Melloi Case Files. She is a descendant of Arturia and her family have been the gravekeeper at Glastonbury. She is the narrator of the novel and Waver tells her to cover her face because he hates it
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>>119505852
>>119505609
Thinking about it, Waver gets a full spinoff, and a side story where he's somewhat important
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>>119505965
Good ol' Waver. Even he's getting tired of all the fucking Saber bullshit in the franchise.
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So what is Shirou doing other than being a butler?
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>>119506242
This is before Stay Night
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>>119505965
Who is the writer?
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>>119506041
Luvia must be getting lots of groundswell.
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>>119505965
>Waver tells her to cover her face because he hates it
What a homo.
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>>119506430
He is still gay for Rider.
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>>119506469
Truly the most loyal subject.
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>>119506312
Sanda Makoto
>>119506430
Despite her face he still allows her to follow him and becomes his pupil.
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>>119505478
Her weapon is actually the spear that killed Mordred. Can't remember all from yesterdays Luvia thread, but some stuff of from the novel was posted there.
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>>119505965
>She is a descendant of Arturia and her family have been the gravekeeper at Glastonbury.
How, did Mordred manage to have a kid before getting impaled by mama or what?
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>>119506041
>Dat Luvia

Nice desu ne~
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Another clone that needs to be killed by Heroine X
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>>119506723

I think we should just relegate this to Prisma Illya levels of not-canon.
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>>119506680
And what's this about?
It doesn't look like a new war.
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>>119506694
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>>119506892
A detective story with Waver, Gray (Saber clone) as his Watson, Luvia and other characters.
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Wasn't the point of Arthur and Mordred killing each other that the line ended with them?
She can't be related to Kay since he and Arthur weren't actually related. So....Morgan? It's the only one left I could possibly think of but most likely the author didn't care about that.....
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>>119507067
Distant. Probably a cousin or something.
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>>119507007
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>>119507067

>yfw its a future descendant of Saber and Shirou's kid in some alternate timeline who somehow went back in time
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>>119507179
More like Bediveress descendant or something.
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>>119507067

Maybe Morgause actually exists in Type-Moon now.
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Why do they keep cloning Saber? It just highlights how shit the original Saber is.
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>>119507231
Japan thinks otherwise.
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>>119507170
Is he teaching her Reigun?
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>>119506694
That edgy as shit scythe belonged to Arthuria?
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>>119505478
What's her personality like?
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In the end of the novel Waver says after he finishes the contract with El-Melloi family he wants to be a single magus, participate in the 5th GW and meet Iskandar again. Gray asks him to take her with him.
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>>119507376
It's not the true form. It transforms to spear. The one Arturia used to kill Mordred.
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>>119506723
Depends on how distant relative we are talking about.
Or if Venus genes comes from Uther Pendragon, or the chick he banged.
Remember: King Arthur has relatives in matter of Britain.

>>119506697
If it was, she would leave it at home.
You don't want a weapon that NEEDS to sheed a lot of blood, whenever its drawn.
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>>119507384
Generic light kuudere with a dash of sarcastic humor.
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>>119506723
Almost certainly not a direct descendant, she's likely descended from either Morgan le Fay or King Lot.
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>She'll probably get way more statues than your T-M waifu just for being a slightly different take on Saber
Kill me
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Indifferent, as with anything Saber
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>>119507440
Is it another laser beam?
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>>119505852
Is the longhaired guy Waver? Gil's killing of Iskandar must have messed him up.
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>>119507460
Gray uses it, the scythe becomes a lance and fires beams. Although it wasn't completely unsealed when she used it.
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>>119507581
It's your own fault for having Leysritt as your waifu.
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>>119507460
>You don't want a weapon that NEEDS to sheed a lot of blood, whenever its drawn.

What powers did Rhongomyniad have?
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>>119507017
About what?
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>We will never see Rin and Shirou's adventures in England
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You know, I've been reading about other fancy shit Arthur was supposed to have and...

>Wynebgwrthucher

Yeah, no, fuck you. I'm convinced the Welsh language is just a centuries-long joke played on the rest of the world. Look at that fucking name, what the fuck is that?
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>>119507411
He didn't though, and if this is a prequel of fsn then why is luvia already grown-up?
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>>119507856
I think you mean Waver and Shirou's adventures
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>>119507782
Said to have pierced 7 men on causal attacks.
Whenever its worn, it will fuck up the user completely if blood is not drawn, properly. So you can't put it down or leave it until you have had a few bloody duels.
It seeps bloodlust.

If anything its a devil katana in spear form.
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>>119507874

It's pronounced "weeneb-gorth-eechair".
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>>119507874
Wine of the depth butcher, pouring it into the sea summons the Old One.
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>>119507944

Standard mythological rebranding of Lugh's Areadbhar, then.
Except not as cool because it doesn't erupt into flame and stab people on its own.
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>>119507874
They just really like their g's w's and y's
>Arthur speaks to Culhwch.
>"You shall have the request that head and tounge name, as far as the wind dries, as far as the rain wets, as far as the sun rises, as far as the sea stretches, as far as the earth extends, excepting only my ship, my mantle, my sword Caledvwlch (Excalibur), my spear Rhongomynyad (cutting-spear), my shield Wynebgwrthucher (face of evening), my knife Carnwennan and my wife Gwenhwyvar (white shadow?)."
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>>119507833
Reines sends Waver to investigate the death of an old man whose family can repair crests and weird shit happens.
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>>119507996
>and stab people on its own
It does that.
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>>119507999
No servants, angra manjew or such things?
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>>119508068

But not while ON FIRE!
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>>119507891
He says it after Hishiri asks him to ally together back in London. We don't know how many years before the HG this is.
Gray is 15 and she is more developed than Saber.
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>>119507996
>erupt into flame and stab people on its own
Lugh called, he wants his spear back.
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>>119508112
Bloodlust weapons are still the best weapons.
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I'm pretty sure that Nasu nor the others who write this stuff have no fucking idea where they are going with "canon" or pretty much anything anymore.
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>>119506041
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>>119508211
Shut up, fast wheel.
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>>119508250
ayy
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>>119508211
Fast wheels pls go
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>>119507067
I just googled Arthur's family and got this, so I'm sure they can find a way for them to be related to him.
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>>119508139
and then he worked to disbanded the graal.
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>>119508097
No, but there's a beat, a guy who can use rocks to form an armor>>119507007, body transfusions and magic crest shenanigans.
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>>119508211
muh Kaleidoscope
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>>119508211
Nasuverse is going the old Star Wars EU way.
Where every good book/game made there is 10 shitty ones that fuck over the canon and old characters.
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>>119508307
Lancelot's son is called Gahalad.
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>>119508333
It's a real shame we don't get more stuff like Kaleid.
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>>119505538
Narita writes F/SF LN, this here is the El-Melloi stuff.
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>>119506723
Based on her similarities of Sir Bedivere, the grey hair, the strength, and wielding a spear, she's probably one of his decedents. There are some interpretations of the Arthurian myth that suggest he was secretly related to one of the other knights of the round tables. It's not a big leap in Nasuverse logic to make Bedivere related to Arthur. Another thing that adds to this is that when Bedivere became a hermit he remained near by Arthur and Guinevere's graves. Maybe in the Nasuverse, Bedivere ended up finding a wife and having a family, but never moved on from his watch over Arturia and as a result his family line dedicated themselves to keeping watch over the tomb.
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>>119508384
Kaleid is shit though
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>>119508394
>Bedivere became a hermit he remained near by Arthur and Guinevere's graves
I am actualy pretty sure that was Lancelot
And why would a descendant of Bedivere get Arthur's spear and not Bedivere's`?
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>newest Saber clone
that's not this?
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>>119508504
Old and busted. Gray is the new "hotness" now.
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>>119507573
She herself even may be Morgan in disguise.
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>>119508504
Not ahegao not Saber clone.
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>>119508504
thats just a cut character from F/SN thats now ben brought back for GO
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>>119508504
That's not a clone.
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>>119508504
Not realy a Saberclone.
Reminds me more of Jack the Stripper
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>>119505478
Why is there yet another Saber?
What's the story here?
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>>119508729
The author wanted some Saberbucks. Everything fate must have a clone now.
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>>119508729
shes apparently a descendent from arthurs family, some cousin or some shit, and her family have essntially ben protecting Arthurs grave

she wields the spear that killed mordred, and shes the narrator of the novel
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>>119508573
>ahegao
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>>119508847
Sloppy number 9 the best
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>>119508820
>shes apparently a descendent from arthurs family, some cousin or some shit, and her family have essntially ben protecting Arthurs grave
Oh. This is exactly who I thought Saber originally was when I first read F/SN before I learned of the genderbent thing. Amusing.
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>>119508847
>king of england
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>>119508498
>I am actualy pretty sure that was Lancelot
Both of them do have watched over the tomb in various interpretations and retellings of the story. Some have interpretations have Lancelot going off to a monastery and being a monk.

>And why would a descendant of Bedivere get Arthur's spear and not Bedivere's`?
No idea, maybe it isn't really Rhongomynyad or maybe Bedivere kept it since it was supposedly given to Arthur by God.
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>>119508980
>since it was supposedly given to Arthur by God.
Didn't some Welsh king/chief/whatever give it to Arthur?
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>>119508211
As long as Zelretch is canon EVERYTHING is canon

And all that really needs to be canon is the world anyway
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>>119505852
>>119506041
>>119506694
>>119507007
>>119507170
Shitty crop but here's the novel's summary from one of yesterday's threads.
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>>119507384
Bland capable teenage girl with attitude and a goth streak.
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>>119508211
JINGURU BERU
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>>119509233
Thanks. Better than actually copying all those posts here.
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Why does Waver look so much older? It hasn't even been 10 years.
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>>119509482
The semen of Iskander
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>>119509482
Aged like milk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSvOmu_ezbo
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>>119508394
Bedivere isn't related to Arturia in Type Moon and she's wielding Arturia's spear not Bedivere's weapon.
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>>119509482

Magic does weird stuff to your biology.
Kirei grew a few more inches despite being a fully grown adult, Shirou grew a goddamn foot despite being near the end of puberty (also became tan and white haired due to corruption).
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>>119509482
Gilgamesh killed his smile and optimism.
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>>119508250
JOJ
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Imagine 100% Heroic Spirit Arturia, summoned with all her shit and not just with Excalihurrr. How OP are we speaking?
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>>119509735
Still weaker than Gawain
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>>119509735
Roughly around Herakles with all his shit and Cu with all his shit.
There's a reason you never get all you toys
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>>119509735

If she was summoned in the Saber class still, the only additional equipment she'd really receive is Avalon, and possibly her shield Prydwen.
Maybe also the ability to call one of her warhorses (Hengroen or Llamrei), as she'd retain her Riding skill.
Perhaps she would receive her dagger Carnwennan if summoned in Britain or by an amazing master, but that's probably not a huge gain. Also Caliburn, but Excalibur is still better.

It would open up options for Lancer Artoria (Rhongomynaid) and Rider Artoria (two warhorses and a boat), however.
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This is fucking bullshit and it's killing my love for the franchise. Nasu needs to get his head out of his fucking ass already.
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>>119509976

This isn't made by Nasu.
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>>119509976
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>>119509735
Caliburn and Avalon is a pretty good combination.
She goes from having no regeneration to having 3x reinforced immortality.
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>>119509930

Double wielding Caliburn and Excalibur.
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>>119509924

What if the fifth war took place in europe
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>>119509987
I don't care who it's made by, they should just stop allowing this kind of shit.
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>>119509930
Avalon itself is the biggest bullshit that would make her automatically win, that's why she was known as the "undefeated king."
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>>119509233
They're going for a fifth war? So I need to know does that mean that we might actually get a follow up on what happened in Fuyuki? Even if it might not be any of the timelines from SN.
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>>119510071
Uh ignore my wishful thinking of a sixth war ever happening or just getting to find out what happened in Fuyuki after the war in general.
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>>119509930

If she was a normal heroic spirit and was summoned with Avalon as the catalyst, would they have two Avalons then?
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>>119510036
It'd be fought by non-European servants.
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Anime adaptation when?
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>>119510123
Nope.
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I just want Fate/Apocrypha anime. I'm confused enough with Fateverse canon already.
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>>119510071
I'd like to see some interactions between Gray and Saber if so. She's a way more decent offspring than that daddy issues traitor.
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>>119510236
I just want to know if Mordred is into guys or girls.
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>>119509735
How would 100% heroic spirit compare to the still alive version?
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>>119510306
Pretty shit. Arturia regens her entire manabar in minutes.
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>>119510189

Yes, because the Servant is a copy of the original that's recorded according to her legend. Arturia isn't a real Heroic Spirit, but a soul who is traveling in time.

She'll probably be male though.
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>>119507693
I bet she will get at least 5 decent ones, which puts her ahead of most of the Fate and Tsuki heroines, let alone supporting girls. Such is the fate of Sabers. If you like any other girl too fucking bad, get this keychain or shitty poster and be pleased.
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>>119510306
Still weaker because class containers can't hold all their power. It's a restriction based on magecraft simply not being good enough to summon full-power heroes. Also, it'd get exponentially more difficult to control some of them, cause you can bet your ass just one command seal at a time ain't gonna cut it.
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There was a point where this shit needed to stop and we have clearly passed it.
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>>119510236
Meh, I just want some closure on Shirou, like what shit he could do after his training at the Clock Tower.
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>>119510385
>5 decent ones
Oh you. My bet is on 2. And I guess that Tsuki girls will get theirs after remake and new Melty.
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>>119509976
>a character looks like the flagship character of the series
>IT'S KILLING MY LOVE FOR THE FRANCHISE

yes i'm sure it's nasu, type-moons or any of their faults that something so minor makes or breaks the entire thing for you.
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>>119510484
You'll get that short novel from Nasu with F/sn BD-Box. It's probably about Archer though.
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>>119510686
Better than nothing I guess
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>>119510597
Are you fucking retarded? It's been done like at least 5 times already. How the fuck am I supposed to take it seriously?
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>>119510428
Stop making best girls? I don't think so anon.
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>>119510484

Archer is already Shirou's maximum. He never learns any new magic.
UBW Shirou got to skip ten years of progression, then in another ten years he'll be at Archer level.
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>>119508963
>england
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>>119510908
Ow the edge
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>>119510908
>Lord El Mello

QUALITY
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>>119510236
I just want to put Saber and her clones in the same room and then see what happens. I might hire in a a few academicians to explain just how implausible it is for all these women from across time and space to look the exact same.
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>>119510945

You also missed
>Load El-Melloi II
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>>119510909
That's new Arc boys. And Arihiko now a black person.
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>>119510048
But she died by the arrows and swords of others. I wonder who killed her.
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>>119510909
nice
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>>119511050
Fitting name for a new Fate doujin.
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>>119510908
Waver grew up to be a handsome devil.
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>>119511016
They're not *exactly* the same, actually.
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>tfw you realize Hollow Ataraxia is an allegory for ending your worthless and repetitive NEET lifestyle and getting a job
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>>119511157
Shit Lancer, what happened to you?
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>>119511016
Strip them naked and you can tell them apart from their bust sizes.
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>>119507007
>>119506694
So this is what Lancer Arturia would look like?
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>>119511223
Just like Heaven's feel is talking about how to get rid of your stupid chunni ideals to save your loved one,right? UBW seems to embrace the chunni and even see it as a positive. Ugh, I feel sick
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>>119511223
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>>119511248
He fused with Kotomine like how Arc fused with Saber.
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>>119511430
Furlancer when?
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Does this Lancer have stats or just the spear itself?
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i'm sick of Saber clones. Why can't the writers come up with something new and different for a change?
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>>119511577
Gil clones?
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>>119511596
How about No clones instead?
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>>119511621
That'd just be ridiculous.
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>>119511540
She's not a Servant. She's like Bazett with her Fragarach.
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>>119510908
>Load

FOR FUCKS' SAKE TYPE-MOON

THERE HAS TO BE ONE FUCKING FOREIGNER YOU CAN JUST KIDNAP OFF THE STREET TO PROOFREAD THIS SHIT

GIVE ME A CALL, YOU FAGGOTS, I'LL DO IT

YOU EVEN WROTE IT CORRECTLY UP THERE!
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>>119511596
Already was.
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>>119511577
sakura clones?
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>>119511888
Maybe it's their pronunciation or something like that.
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r8 Shiki's upcoming new design.
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>>119511540
What's the deal with Prototype Rider's NP stat?
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>>119511791
Aw shit, I thought that Lancer!Arthur is a thing.
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>>119511596
>>119512063
>Thinking a fake can ever be as good as the original
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>>119510123
Apocrypha mentions Noble Phantasms with the condition of having to use the still existing artifacts, so it may be that Avalon is one of those.
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>>119512178
Solar spaceship
Sphinx
Egyptian Phantasmal Beast RM

The first two are EX, other one is unknown
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>>119505852
>Luvia

She's everywhere.
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>>119511888
nips can't write english, anon. deal with it
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>>119505534
>This is madness!
Madness?
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>>119512198
Isn't the Gil in FSN and FZ technically a fake of the actual Gil? I mean, all the servants are just copies of the original heroes, are they not?
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>>119505478
>another Saber clone.

>ANOTHER SABER CLONE.

I want fate to crash and burn.
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>>119512177
8/8
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>>119512249
The Luviaboom is real.
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>>119511888
But anon, that would involve the police.
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>>119512239
I'm sorry, if you meant Perseus

A = Bellerophon
B = Harpe
C = Kibisis (Bounded Field/RM breaker)
D = Mirror Shield (Deflects NPs and magic)
E = Flying sneakers (boosts AGI)

It's ABCDE because his master is a potato powered by drugs, its supposed to be stronger than that or so he claims.
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>>119512177
looks good brah
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>>119512137
This is disgusting.
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>Including mascots, there are enough clones for a Holy Grail War comprised entirely of Sabers
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>>119508384
No, fuck you.
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>>119511016

Consider how sameface they tend to be .. the only difference is pretty much hair style and occasionally slightly different eyes.
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>>119512178

The NP stat has never made sense.
It's some sort of approximation based on the ranks of your NPs but not equivalent to them. There are people who have an NP rank higher and lower than the rank of their noble phantasms.
So why does Perseus have five ranks for one score? Why the fuck does it matter, that score is bonkers.
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>>119512410
Takeuchi's first novel?
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>>119512304
That's not even supposed to be another Fate\HGW. Be very afraid. They can turn any character into a saberclone.
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>>119509930
>Rider Artoria (two warhorses and a boat)
Don't forget the coconuts.
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>>119512554
I didn't vote for ye.
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>>119512137
Makes me want to vomit.
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>>119512179
Probably Grand Order. It seems like Nasu has slowly been adding minor references of future works into others. Koha-Ace mentioned the spear a while ago, it was mentioned by name in Apocrypha, and now this. Including it in Grand Order seems like a no-brainer, especially with different-classed Servants.
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>>119512520
It makes it all the stranger that no one in Apocrypha is a Saber clone design wise (despite one being an actual physical clone of her in story)
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>>119512459
They all just listed in his status page.
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>>119512703

Yes, but what makes no sense at all is why his Noble Phantasm score is "A B C D E" when no other character with multiple noble phantasms exhibits multiple ranks.
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>>119512703
You'd think one of the most famous heroes from Greek myth would have better stats.
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>>119512670
If Mordred grew her hair and put it in a bun she would be a mirror of Arturia.
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>>119512749
Who knows. Wait two or three years for the proper Prototype novels to start to find out.
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>>119505478
>>119506694
It's fake.
Photoshop
Secondaries're pathetic
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>>119512818
His master is dead and was horribly weak
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>>119512818
He's more of a tool-reliant Servant like Astolfo than a rip off the opponent's arm and beat them about the head with it Servant.
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>>119512830
She doesn't wear similar clothes either though
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>>119512818
>Implying ANY stat besides Noble Phantasm is worth a shit
Never once has any servant, regardless of class, died from a conventional attack.
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>>119512862
He's incarnated with his mask acting as a pseudo-Master while he eats souls. He should be fine in that regard.
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>>119512703
>supposedly from Ancient Greece
>has maroon hair and lime green eyes
How? Wouldn't it make more sense that he resembled Herakles, considering that the two of them are half-brothers?
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>>119512749
Maybe they tried to show that he have ridiculous amount of them since usually servants have only two-three NP, but fucked the stats because of that.
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>>119512897
To be fair Gae Bolg is broken for being "B"
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>>119511147
>Nigger steals your sword and your Avalon
>You go into your tool shed, pick up a shitty clone of Lughs firesmeared bloodlust hound pike
>Rally your army
>Ride to the battlefield
>Go Berserk and get peppered by arrows
>Already be halfway dead, and impaled by several great NPs by the time you reclaim Avalon
>Realize this happened because you where in the end, a very shitty king
>And that if you keep on doing, it will happen again
>BTW, you already killed your bro(Lancelot)
>And several other knights
>You already fucked up once, very badly, when you meet Lancelot
>Oh, and Mordred impale you, for shits and giggles
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>>119512818
His master was unskilled and on the brink of death, that he could at least get an A+ in luck is impressive enough.
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>>119512897

Caster did in Heaven's Feel.
Assassin did in Unlimited Blade Works.
Archer did in Fate.
The only reason Saber didn't in Fate is because Illya decided to spare her.

And the first few opponents did in Extra before your servant allowed themselves to go all out.
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>>119512996
>BTW, you already killed your bro(Lancelot)
Never happened
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>>119512934
Still not the same as a proper Master and he doesn't have Independent Action unlike Serenity Hassan
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>>119513041
Welcome to Nasu, we make Medusa with less rape.
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>>119512884
So strip her naked.
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Is Gilgamesh a chuuni?
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>>119512818
Perseus doesn't rely on personal ability so much as the fact that he's a munchkin with crazy equipment.
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>>119512897
>Zero Berserker
>True Assassin
>Cu
>Any Servant in Extra, possibly
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>>119512897
It does matter, there are many instances in this series where the battle was decided because the other guy had better stats.
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>>119512934
Not very, he was very weak and starving to death until Ayaka gave him her bento.
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>>119513023
Rider also did in UBW.
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>>119511302
>HF
>not the most chuuni route
I also think you have no clue what chuuni means if you think that following your ideals is chuuni.
Biggest buzzword 14/15
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>>119512520
How old is Luvia here and Waver is going to tap both right?
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>>119513100
Not really. He is the king of the world. So his hubris isn't really a delusion but reality.
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>>119513147

Do we really count Kuzuki as "conventional"? His snake is practically a noble phantasm if you consider his role with Caster to be reversed (with him the servant and she the master).
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>>119512897
Rider in UBW just this season.
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>>119513000
>>119512862
What are you talking about? Isemi kid was a living prana battery because of that chimerisation stuff. Hell, he lived for 8 years because of that.
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>>119512063
Will it ever get a proper translation?
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>>119513118
>Cu
That was either commandspell, shadow + zabanya or whatever the fuck happened against Gil
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>>119505478
>Nero
Her every descendant looks exactly like her. Every last one of them.
Does her Imperial Privilege Phantasm have causality change, or something?
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>>119513246
no_
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>>119513239
and he died, turned Rider into a real being while leaving him scrawny and underpowered as fuck.

It doesn't matter if Isemi is a prana battery when Perseus still needed to suck dicks and souls to survive.
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>>119513270
Sure, but he didn't Gae Bolg himself to kill himself
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>>119513322
OHOHOHOHO Perseus pleases old men for mana.
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>>119513186
>So his hubris isn't really a delusion
Laughing "Epic of Gilgamesh".jpg
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>>119513246
Probably not. Only that one weird guy doing partial translations and summaries. Even if he did, I either think he doesn't have that great a of a grasp of English, or he's just bad at translating. His stuff his very awkward to read. The guy who did strange fake's translation also mentioned her writing style sucks or something.
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>>119513282
When in doubt.

Merlin did it.
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>>119513189
Bullshit. That's like calling Crane Wing or Nine Lives Blade Works Noble Phantasms. Fuck, Tsubame-Gaeshi doesn't count as a Noble Phantasm even though it's one of the most broken things in the VN.
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>>119513366
Well guess how Archer got his prana fix at the end of UBW
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>>119513458
Yeah, and can you even count something like Berserker of Black using her kamikaze NP on Saber when Saber had already basically killed her without using her NP anyway?

All the climactic battles are settled by NP, but not necessarily the less important ones
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>>119507581
F/A is pretty much ignored including F/E so what makes you think this shitty LN spinoff will get attention?
>>
Kuzuki vs Heracles without God Hand
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>>119513692
>F/A is pretty much ignored
That is pretty wrong though
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>>119513757
Just because you are a F/A samefag, doesn't mean that F/A is popular.
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>>119513807
It's getting an extra volume because it's so popular
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Is it really Ayaka or just look alike?
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>>119509233
>Laser beam scythe/spear
>Luvia is worse than Rin
Damn this hasn't started good.
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>>119513866
That one got released this year.
Originaly there were 4 planned volumes
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>>119512703
>sarvant rider
>SARVANT

pls nasu
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>>119513866
What? That already happened. It's over now.
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>>119512485
He would basically write and jerk off at the same time.
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>>119513872
>asking a bunch of people who have not read it
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>>119513964
>Implying that's not what all writers do
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>>119513897
>Luvia is worse than Rin
Everything is right with the world.
It's pre F/SN so it will probably end with both equal for the Clocktower sequel never
>Laser beam scythe/spear
I am angry and disapointed.
BEAMS A SHIT
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>>119507376
scythes didn't ask to be edgy, they just turned out that way
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>>119514016
Is every weapon Saber had a beam spammer? Excalibur,Caliburn, and now this spear.
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>>119513404
He wasn't alive during Nero times. I suspect it might be their dragon lineage and they all look like the first Saber who made the pact, or whatever, with the dragon.
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>>119513282
Nero's got good genes.
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>>119514134
>Dragon
>>119514162
That Gilface
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>>119514127
Her kendo practice bokken
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>>119514162
Enkidu looks like a girl.
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>>119514166
Saber could have been a cowtit monster too if she was only allowed to mature more.
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>>119514221
>Implying that doesn't have some form of magical beam spam.
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>>119514127
How else would Saibah be able to win?
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Could Shirou trace this spear?
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>>119514271
While Nero's tits are nice in size she isn't really in cowtit country compared to other TM's.
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Which Servant would Shirou summon without Avalon?
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>>119514439
That's just fat.
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>>119514468
Himself ?
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>>119514468
Siegfried
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>>119514468
Himself?
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>>119513614
Is this fanart of a photoshop? Of have that many people really been tricked by it?
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>>119514506
Of Denesle?
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>>119514468
Maybe through some fuckery Shirou is able to use Cu and his Gay Bulge as a catalyst
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>>119513897
>Luvia is worse than Rin

And how did you reach that conclusion from there?
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>>119514536
>Those breasts
Wot?
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>>119514572
So... Another Cu?

That means that without the pendant Rin would summon another Gil?
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>>119514621
Well I was thinking someone from Cu's life but I don't know who since I'm not familiar with Irish mythology. Maybe Saber Cu with Fraggle Rock?
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>>119514524
Haha. You so funny.
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>>119514574
>so she lets him off with just a gandr in the sleeve of his jacket.
Too violent already, all he did was make a room mistake.
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>>119514655
I remember reading somewhere he learned runes from some legendary witch, forgot her name. But by the time he summons someone the Caster slot is already taken.
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>>119514708
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>>119514723
That's Scathach.
There would also be
>Ferdiad
>Fergus
>Conchobar
>Cathba
>Medb
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>>119514536
What the hell is Gil wearing.
And why is Lancer being gay.
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>>119514016
>It's pre F/SN so it will probably end with both equal for the Clocktower sequel never

This made me mad
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>>119505478
Would rape and fuck out of love.
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>>119514781
Also Scathach taught Cu all 26 Feats of War
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>>119514811
The legendary bulge-garnment.
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>>119513458
>That's like calling Crane Wing or Nine Lives Blade Works Noble Phantasms

Nine Lives IS a noble phantasm and Kanshou/Bakuya Overedge may as well be Archer's NP.
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I want Takeuchi to stop. Arturia or bust
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>>119514955

Artoria will make her next major appearance in Fate/Grand Order.
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>>119514781
>Scathach.
>No qt3.14 Caster to teach you the hard way.
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>>119514708
This, she sounds like an actual modern tsundere/Bitchdere, is like the writer is one of the guest writers in HA who doesn't understand Rin's tsundere and he failed to copy it on her clone Luvia.
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>>119514979
>mobile shit
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>>119514979
T-translated never?
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>>119514536
What did Gil even see in Ayaka? Not that she was ugly or had a bad personality, but he went after her like she was the only female human left on Earth.
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>>119515442
>typical Shoujo protagonist
End of argument
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>>119515442
She was the MC.
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>>119515442
Just like every female being went after Shiro like He was the only male human left on Earth.
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>>119515442

The original version of Fate/Stay Night (now Fate/Prototype) was japanese Twilight with legendary bishounen heroes. Ayaka was attractive to them because Nasu did not yet know how to actually write at the time.
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>>119515499
>typical Shoujo

You meant Otome, new friend.
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>>119515532
Shirou did the high jump. Bitches love high jumps.
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>>119515639

Shirou never actually did the high jump.
He tried but failed continuously.
It was a symbol of "tenacity in the face of impossible odds" which apparently japanese girls get wet for.
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>>119515676
>otaku want to believe that japanese girls get wet for that.

Fixed.
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>>119515532
Shirou is a pretty good catch though for any girl.
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>>119515639
Literally everyone loves high jumps.
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>>119515532
>kind
>committed
>/fit/
>awesome at cookery
>does whatever you tell him to
>scores some PTSD points
He's pretty much a perfect catch for someone out for a trophy husband. Or a manservant.
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>>119515793

Shirou would be a great catch for anyone.
>cooks
>cleans
>repairs
>earns a fair amount of money but spends frugally
>owns a spacious mansion complex in japan with magical defense alarm
>obsessed with making you happy because it's the way he experiences joy
>cute
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>>119515913
>a manservant.

That's the point.
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>>119515928
>cute
Let's not go there.
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>>119515997

It is too late.

It was always too late.
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>>119513491
>yfw Archer only survived to the last day in UBW because he was whoring himself out to the denizens of Fuyuki for prana during the day

It all makes sense now!
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>>119515913
>>119515928
And he grows up to be tall and handsome.
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>>119515857
There's a box in Japanese that's not translated.
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>>119514536
>tfw Ayaka will never appear outside the shitfest that is Prototype
I just want her to replace Shirou in the Fifth Grail War, and for Arthur to be replaced with literally any other character.
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>>119514162
I hope someone will scan the full manga soon.
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>>119516455
Oh look you just removed half of it.
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>>119516455

Do we keep her as daughter of Emiya Kiritsugu or anything?
Cause being unrelated to Illyasviel von Einzbern means she's killed on the third day along with Tohsaka.
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>>119516221
>>
How many seibah clones are there anyway?
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>>119508504
People are really getting dumber about what they think clone means.
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>>119516761
Depends, do you want to include things like Alter, Lily, and Mysterious Heroine X who all ARE Arturia under different circumstances, or not?
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>>119509191
This isn't even an Alternate time-line type story

This is a side story about something that happened regardless of the world-line, similar to Fate/Strange. Neither of those stories involve any of the previous cast or create any inconsistencies where it would need to be an alt-line.
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>>119509735
Fanon tier in a way, "She should have Avalon, Excalibur, her scythe spear, Caliburn, and have a reality marble that summons all of her knights, because that's how servants work".

I'm saying that people always bullshit "Heroic Spirit Arthur". Saying "If she would be summoned normally she'd have so much more stuff, all of her stuff". Yeah that's never been how it's worked, especially for Saber or Lancer class servants. You're lucky if you get more than one NP in that class. Even Prototype shows that Arthur is basically balanced with a proper summoning of herself even with her current gear. Heroic Spirit King Arthur isn't some mystical thing along with Serious Gilgamesh where she's untouchable because she has all of her stuff. It's just an idea people have because they want her to have Avalon naturally, when even that's doubtful.
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>>119516037
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>>119511223
That's what all of Fate is about. Extra is pretty anti-Otaku in a lot of ways, all of the main servants have had bedroom experience before, but that's not supposed to be a dealbreaker as they make you like them anyway rather than "B-but she has to be pure".
>>
>>119509735
>>119517011
Wouldn't HS Arturia have Excalibur and Avalon if she was placed in the Saber class, only her spear if placed in the lancer class etc? I think Avalon is a must, since it is the sheath of Excalibur and Arthur and Excalibur are inseparable.
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>>119517115
Stop, stop.
Archer is pure and you can't convince me otherwise
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>>119517115
It's more like Nasu is known for having some non-virgins thrown in the mix.
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>>119517115
>all of the main servants have had bedroom experience before
I never understood why that was a bad thing. Sex with virgins tends to suck.
I was a normalfag once, but I have seen the light.
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>>119508385
Who is this semen demon?
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>>119517161
She lost Avalon in life, and it's still floating around out there as a living NP.

As Saber class she'd definitely have Excalibur and Invisible Air as her two NPs. If she was allowed three NP's it would depend on the third one she got, but she'd probably need to be summoned in Britain to get more than two normally.
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>>119517199
You saying this slut is pure?
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>>119517221
>Sex with virgins tends to suck.
Not in the 2D world, don't compare please.
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>>119517286
You saying this ho-bag don't hasn't been deflowered?
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>>119517286
>>119517338
Why don't you two masterbate already.
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>>119517278
>She lost Avalon in life

Karna lost Kavacha and Kundala but has it anyway.
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>>119517278
>She lost Avalon in life, and it's still floating around out there as a living NP.
I doubt that matters, Heroic spirits are summoned during their prime.
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>>119517288
Really? Name one character with 2 or more eroscenes where the first one is generally considered to be the best.
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>>119517288
Rin disagrees
Shirou wasn't exactly helping though
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>>119517378
That's because he's Nasu's new special snowflake.
He should have either Kavancha and Kundala or Vasavi Shakti but because lolNasu he has both
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>>119517460
If you ever played Yumina, I liked Kirara's first scene more, but that was an exception to the rule
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>>119517378
Because he's in the throne and she's not there yet.
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>>119517243
Lord El-Melloi II's fiance
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>>119513100
He's NEET
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>>119517460
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>>119514223
So, like how he's actually supposed to look? How horrible.
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>>119515442
But the animated short doesn't show anything of this. Because it was fucking short.
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>>119517378
Because Kavacha and Kundala are not still floating around out there as living NPs, they've already ascended. So even if lost they have joined him once more in the Throne.
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>>119517647

That's not how noble phantasms work.
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>>119517460
Any H-anything in anime.
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>>119517678
Yeah it is
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>>119515442
I assume all MC's have the same curse of attraction Diramuid had, except Diramuid got a bad end.
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>>119517479
So? Rin is the minority.
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>>119517714
Kiritsugu only had two girls after him, and both of them had good reasons for it
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>>119517695

No, it really isn't. There is nothing in the lore about "living NPs still out there" or "ascending". Noble Phantasms are the crystallization of legend, they're bonded to the legendary spirit the minute the legend is created.
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>>119517278
>>119517647
>>119517695
I remember you, stop spreading lies.

Arturia is not in the Throne, so she only gets the Noble Phantasms that were on her person when she was summoned, namely Excalibur and Invisible Air. Karna gets all his Phantasms because he died and his soul went to the Throne.
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>>119517796
Why would she not carry Avalon on her person at all times?
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>>119517243
No idea, I can't remember her from the LN anymore.
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>>119517858

Mordred jacked it before the rebellion, read the goddamn legend.
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>>119517011
She would get Avalon for sure. Anything else is doubtful ans subjective to classes and container restrictions.

But Excalibur and Avalon are essentially the same Noble Phantasm to begin with. It's Excalibur's sheath for crying out loud. They are incomplete without one another.

The equivalent would be Rider being summoned with his chariot yet with no bulls.
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>>119517338
For completion sake, here is the original since shiki is the one to wear glasses
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>>119508504
SEMEN DEMON
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>>119517892
If>>119517286 had white skin he would be the hottest TM surpassing Shiki.
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>>119517881
Then why did Mordred die?
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Who's writing the new Strange Fake? Narita?
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>>119517953
Because Mordred isn't Arturia.
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>>119517858
Wait, so when she vanished with Avalon, why didn't it go back in time when she was dying on the hill ?
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>>119517953

It didn't work for her. It's made for the once and future king only.
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>>119517460
Mizuki in YMK
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>>119505478
Would someone be kind enough to post Fate/Stay Lagann: The Lights in the Sky are Swords?
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>>119515532
Nobody in the story ever falls for him at first sight. There's long periods of acclimatization and getting to know him.

Heck, I'm re-reading Fate right now, and it's fun seeing the slow change between them, especially as they start switching places in repeated arguments like "You're wounded, can't fight yet."

Proto Gil apparently saw Ayaka once and went HOLY SHIT, YOU ARE SINGULARLY SPECIAL AND TOTALLY UNLIKE ANY OTHER WOMEN I'VE EVER SEEN LET ME PUT MY PENIS IN YOU.
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>>119518002
Plot hole. Fate route a shit.
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>>119512297
No, they're more like ghosts
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>>119517888
>She would get Avalon for sure.
Arthur is a legit heroic spirit in Prototype. He doesn't have Avalon. You're making assumptions based on nothing.
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>>119518002
>>119518181

She had it with her. Why do you think she never dies? She takes it with her to the fairyland.
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>>119518167
>Proto Gil apparently saw Ayaka once and went HOLY SHIT, YOU ARE SINGULARLY SPECIAL AND TOTALLY UNLIKE ANY OTHER WOMEN I'VE EVER SEEN LET ME PUT MY PENIS IN YOU.
He gave the antidote that would save her life to Saber before trying to kill him with his NP because it would mean Arthur would die in the most despair.

He never gave a shit about her. He just wanted to beat Saber in everything.
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>>119518188
And prototype was the fucking prototype. There is tons of shit in it that's inconsistent with what F/SN actually became.
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>>119518288
>She takes it with her to the fairyland.
Don't you need to die to go there ?
I thought the last scene was showing her death.
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>>119518188
And you're being stupid by ignoring the NPs are completely different in prototype. It's an canonical story that was ditched and has no relevance on anything.
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>>119518188
And Gil doesn't have Ea.
Prototype means shit
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>>119518406
>Don't you need to die to go there ?

No, the way to the fairyland is something magic across the sea. It's not the land of the dead, which you get into by going under the barrows.

>I thought the last scene was showing her death.

It's a metaphorical "death of King Arthur" rather than a literal cessation of Artoria's life.
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>>119518433
>>119518399
You guys are completely retarded. You're arguing that something has no relevance because it's too loosely connected and therefore doesn't apply but she would "definitely have Avalon" because you feel like it.

It's literally based on nothing. Nowhere in anything is it ever said she would get Avalon as a summoned Heroic Spirit. Where's all of Cuchullains shit? Where's Deermud's swords?
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>>119518433
>>119518399
Nothing has any relevance to whether her as a Heroic Spirit because it's impossible. She either gets her wish and erases her legend, or gets over her issues and goes to Avalon instead.

There is no such thing as Heroic Spirit Arturia. It's impossible.
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>>119518555

>Where's all of Cuchullains shit?

In ireland or under a powerful master, by Nasu's description.

>Where's Deermud's swords?

In the Saber class. Nasu said that's what Kayneth was going for, too.

>>119518675

If she gets her wish and erases her legend, she still exists as a counter guardian.
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>>119518555
>You guys are completely retarded. You're arguing that something has no relevance because it's too loosely connected and therefore doesn't apply but she would "definitely have Avalon" because you feel like it.

No, you shithead, we're saying it bears no relevance because you're comparing two entirely different characters with entirely different weapons. Both have "Excalibur", yet they're completely different weapons. There are not two Excaliburs in the universe, they are different because one story has absolutely no bearing on the other. They are not "loosely" connected; they are not connected, period.

Saying that Arturia wouldn't have Avalon because a character in a story that isn't even compatible with her universe doesn't have it is idiotic.
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>>119518786
So why wouldn't all of Saibah's shit be in Wales?
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>>119518926

Yeah, summoning her without being a top tier ubermagus means you probably won't get Carnwennan or Prydwen and you'd probably have to be pretty up there in quality to let her materialize Avalon properly.

She'd be a hero with a lot of gated content available for better magi.
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>>119514162
Gil vs Enkidu when
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>>119518926
Because the Japanese think Saber is English.
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>>119506697
>spear
Are you fucking blind? It's a fucking sythe. And the spear the killed Mordred was named fucking Ron. Fucking read up on your King Arthur.
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>>119518005
Then why does it work for Kiritsugu, Iri and Shirou? Mordred was near Arturia when she died
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>>119519002
2100 BC
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>>119519022
Because Nasu is a hack.
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>>119518926
>So why wouldn't all of Saibah's shit be in Wales?

Where do you think the Einzberns dug up Avalon from? A landfill in Texas? We know Rhongomyniad got passed down as well.
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>>119519036
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Prototype thread?
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>>119519022
Just read the fucking VN, you moron. This is a well covered plot point.

>>119519055
>Hurr here's my opinion of a story I've never read.
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>>119518555
Cu gets his Chariot and a castle NP as well, if he's summoned in ireland.

Presumably he gets the chariot anyway if summoned as rider, and id imagine that the castle ties into his caster class somehow.
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>>119519022

Mordred stole it, but she didn't have it explicitly on her person during the battle of Camlann.

Even if she did, you have to be in a magical contract with her to have the near-full effect (only she gets the full effect). Just being in proximity means you recover quickly, but being run through by a legendary spear is a tad more deadly than that. There's nothing indicating Artoria lingered around Mordred's corpse long enough to repair enough damage that she wouldn't succumb, assuming Mordred was carrying Avalon at all.
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>>119505478
She looks like a feral animal, and that makes my penis non-soft.
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>>119519019
>Are you fucking blind? It's a fucking sythe.

Read the thread, dumbass.
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>>119519059
>We know Rhongomyniad got passed down as well.
And that is the most retarded thing the Nasuverse ever produced
Also your completly missing the point
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>>119519107
>>119514536
Since when did she have Sakura size breasts?
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>>119519107
Seems like the perfect fujo vn.
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>>119506694
Anyone know the artist's name? I could only find the author. Unless they're one in the same.
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>>119519148
Apocrypha says that the Castle is limited to Ireland
Also there's a shit ton of other stuff Cu could get from his legends
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>>119519107
Even as a male, Saber is pure moe.
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>You will never buy groceries with Ilya
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>Saber route #34285713489258237
>Still no Taiga Route
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>>119519228
>And that is the most retarded thing the Nasuverse ever produced

This would make it the THIRD legendary item thats survived to present age covered by the story... actually, fourth, counting Longinus.

You have no clue what you're yapping about and have no point.
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>>119519246
She literally is Sakura and Rin fused together.
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>>119519107
Good to see Lancer is still the best.
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>>119510071
They'll do a UBW sequel of Waver and MS. Defenseless Anus wiping out the great grail.

There's just too much money to be made for them to not do it eventually.
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>>119519107
Gil looks like less of an insufferable douchebag in Prototype.
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>>119519246
Every otome protagonist has large breasts.
Protoype was essentially an otome game.
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>>119519315
Unlimited Codes, nigger
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>>119519107
i know prototype is shit but i fucking love that Cu armor's design
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>>119519431
He isn't.
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>>119519304
Damn.
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>>119519318
There's no evidence that Black Barrel is the Lance of Longinus.
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>>119519521
Good to know.
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>>119519437
>Bazett MC
>Avenger is otouto forbidden love
>Coo Coo Cachoo is delinquent bad boy
>Kotomine is class idol yandere
I'd play the shit out of this, no homo.
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>>119519437
What why? Doesn't it run with the same concept as Shoujo manga?
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>>119519470
It's hard to do worse than the blue jumpsuit.
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>>119519566
Illyafag confirmed for cuck shitposter.
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>>119519318
Come on Gray is easily the worst and most forced Saibahclone.
Even Nero makes more sense
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>>119519597
Kotomine is the teacher/nurse/priest don't be silly anon
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>>119506694
>thigh-highs
>high-heel boots
>slightly less moe than King Seiba

would fuck until my dick fell off
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>>119519661
Shut your face you dumb cuck.
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>>119506694
It's shit.
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>>119519746
>Pedofags
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>>119519616
Same reason all eroge MCs are ripped even if it makes no damn sense in the context of the story.
Self-insert wish fulfillment.
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What is formalcraft by the way? Is it just runic or geometric magic that Nasu gave a new name?
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