Archer or Lancer, /a/?
>true master killed, forced to serve the guy that killed his master
>knows he's just a tool and has no chance in winning the war
>continues to fight so he can test his skill, doesn't even give a fuck about the war and has no real personal agenda
>finally gets revenge for his master's killer at the very end and dies in a blaze of glory
>spends entire game brooding and being edgy
>betrays his own master because it's more convenient for him to accomplish his goals
>fights for selfish desires and gets his ass handed to him
>doesn't accomplish any of his goals and in the end and dies like a bitch
Lancer, no contest.
>liking some guy who pirates copies of noble phantasms using Unlicensed Bootleg Works opposed to someone who uses a real noble phantasm
Chiron is a good Archer
For real though, Archer is way more interesting as a character, Lancer barely does anything but die
>>Powerful as fuck
>accomplishes nothing but killing literally the weakest servant
>does nothing but grandstand and put others down for not being his bottom bitches
>>Probably buys the weed AND snacks when he comes over
>probably hogs them all because he is defined by not giving a fuck about other's wants
>He fights Gil head on
and dies without even touching the guy
>who happened to have the only noble phantasm that could defeat him. Even saber would have had a tough time because her ramp up is so long.
There are so many ways to counteract Ionioi Hetairoi that Fate is overflowing with them and it's actually his worse noble phantasm.
>have the only noble phantasm that could defeat him
Do you forget the time he brought a massive barrel of the best drink he could find to share with everyone?
The only reason he didn't accomplish anything is because the only person he properly went up against was Gilgamesh, who is broken as fuck.
There is, I don't have the original picture though.
>tfw no qt boy harem
>the only noble phantasm that could defeat him
That's just so wrong.
Fuck you don't even need an NP
Such a simple counter to Iskandar's NP.
The most consistent feature of Divinity in Nasuverse works is red eyes
Reminder not to be deceived by sunk cost VNfag primaries.
They made the decision long ago to gorge themselves on an inferior medium, knowing full well that a superior, high budget, high quality better medium version was in the works.
They traded quality for early access to content. And misery loves company, they will stop at nothing to trick newfriends into making the same mistake they did.
You should do the following, at the bare minimum
1. Watch Fate/Zero
2. Watch UBW (UFOTABLE)
3. Decide to wait out for the end of UBW, or if you really must and cannot contain your autism to win nerdbattles on /a/, you can play the VN
4. Ditto for the last, worst, wormroutes like HF.
There is zero reason to choose an objectively inferior, decade old eroge VN over a far superior, better artstyle, animated, version of it.
Additionally the other fate releases spoil Fate/Zero -- the best standalone release of the entire fate series. It is idioitic to complain about how it ruins a subpar route like HF, when reading HF/FSN spoils Fate/Zero.
Fate/Zero is one of the greatest selling anime of all time for good reason. And /a/ will never stop being butthurt over it.
Yeah, Archer is a shit character and people that likes him just because of some stupid typo that caused an ebin maymay.
For the person who wanted the original CCC pic.
>he really didn't know gar originated from a typo from "I am gay for Archer"
Archerfags are the worst. The worst of oldfags and newfags are concentrated in becoming Archerfags.
We've got an Archer Vs. Lancer thread.
I love them both. Fuck it, I'm emptying my folder.
His weakness is women.
Seriously, its in CCC.
Archer's weakness is women.
Go to pixiv. There's more LancerxArcher there than most of the het pairings.
You shouldn't, that guy left out that you watch the Prisma Ilya series first. Then you watch Tsukihime anime because that's a primer for Fate Zero, Carnival Phantasm afterwards to get the comedy moeshit out of the way then Fate Stay Night anime after watching Fate Zero.
Afterwards, do what he says. It's pretty much correct.
Just about every other person in this thread is probably a VNfag. Decide if you like anime or VN and go that route
this is just disinfo. Always start with the superior, one of the top best selling animes of all time
Well Meltililith does go all Yandere stalker mode if you have female MC and Archer.
She even makes a comment that Archer just seems like someone that Sakura would go after.
>the Tsukihime anime
What are you talking about?
Favorite moment in the anime for me.
What Tsukihime anime?
There is no Tsukihime anime anon, don't be silly.
There's nothing wrong with being GAR for Archer.
Spoilered for Rin's titty.
I unironically don't see a Tsukihime anime on horriblesubs meaning it's from ye olde days of pure shit and epic may may subs being your only choice
So maybe that 10 seed one on Nyaa is it
>adv on how to handle turkey
Too bad this never happened in the VN.
An Archer Alter would have been . . . actually kind of awesome.
Dude, Lancer/Rin/Archer is my impossible OT3.
It would be like Spike/Buffy/Angel, but Rin isn't a shit like Buffy is.
>But Giggle instead because he's laughing
Extra proves that all Archer needs to do is get laid and he's a whole new person.
There is no Mordredbowl to speak of now that Necrobara is dead. She doesn't want any of Karna or Achilles, Shakespeare is gay, Spartacus is just not happening, and Semiramis already called dibs on Shirou. That leaves Atalanta, and I don't think Mordred is into taco.
Talks about a shit character. Posts picture of Sakura.
Do you have bullshit luck like Saber? No? Then
gae bolg gg lel
I wonder if Caster Lancer will be able to use his castle by making his bounded field considered Ireland or something. With how often they've mentioned it recently, they can't not give it to us.
>implying Archer isn't getting any from Bayonetta
But Achilles does have a divinity score, so Enkidu is a powerful restraint. His strength is high and his divinity is middling, though, so he may break out of it anyway.
But it only has to hold him for a moment before the Gate of Babylon riddles him with death.
That's not Gawain, however Gawain = Seig so it's alright.
Seig = Gawain = Sakamoto Ryouma > Mordread > Okita > shit > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah > Seibah
Seiba > not-Seiba
Herakles is one of the strongest heroes ever, but at the same time he has a very high divinity score and Enkidu scales up. It would not be as strong for Achilles as it was for Herakles, so Achilles does not need to be as strong as Herakles to successfully break out.
Nah not really a fujo. (See, most Fujos wouldn't even thought to put Rin in there.)
(However, if I'm gonna yaoi pair Archer with anyone it would be Gilgamesh. Why? Because I'm weird and how Gil says "Faker" is like so fucking suggestive.)
It's unlikely anything divine can physically break out of it. The narrative is like "it's impossible, but he does it anyway" like three times during that scene. Probably a combo of being buffed and the natural status of being Heracles.
It would be meaningless to have the "it scales up in proportion to the target's divinity" trait if the slightest rank of divinity turns it into unbreakable status. That's not scaling up at all, that's a binary "useless/invincible" state.
Dude, there will always be EMIYA hate.
However he's currently the second highest voted as favorite character in the new anime. First being Kotomine.
He's also voted as the most popular male character in TM in the 10th anniversary poll so . . .
Everyone already knows he can kill servants
Maybe a little?
More like I like couples who are aesthetically pleasing and have good chemistry.
I mean, I ship the fuck out of Rin/Archer OUT of UBW. (Rin/Shirou are so cute in UBW and I wouldn't wanna fuck that up. However for Fate and HF? Plus its still sort of obvious that Archer carries a bit of a torch for his master.)
IIRC, Perseus has A or A+ luck, so just by that he stands a pretty good chance of not getting hit. He also has a NP that basically reflects all attacks, but I suppose Gay Bulge could get around that.
>tfw t-moon complex 08 and 09 haven't been translated yet
Which is what Enkidu is for and what doesn't protect him for long.
Achilles is a cool servant but the only chance he has is if Gilgamesh does his standard foppish overconfidence strategy and doesn't even try to pull Enkidu.
>amounts to nothing until helped by others
Makes one wonder why rin somehow fell for that loser instead of chad.
Oh yeah I remember, fate was made for low test beta jap chuunis.
Plus have you played Unlimited Codes?
Gil says Faker this really fucking suggestive way and yeah. Not to mention the hate sex would be brutal.
(And not to mention, Gil is pretty much cannon bisexual so . . .)
If you've read Apocrypha, can you please tell me what good Shakespeare is as a caster? He doesn't seem to actually do anything other than hang out in the backround and take notes.
He also fought a bunch of people not one on one and won too. Literally, he had a Guts 100 man kill moment in his myth.
He can do 1v1 me fgt on Iskander then throw his bulge around before the reality marble collapses on itself.
>NP is his spear getting a one hit kill from longer distances than it should be able to
He's your typical kiddy on
Modern Warfare 2. He's running Marathon, Lightweight, and Commando
I hold a much lower opinion of Cu now.
Yep. Cu is my favorite servant in the entirety of Fate. 11/10, would summon and win with.
I thought that it was fueled by the entirety of his army or whatever. I could be wrong in this regard though. I have not seen any new material written about IH for a while.
Are you retarded? Before Horriblesubs killed fansubbing, there were a lot of quality subs out there. In fact, once upon a time, commie wasn't complete shit either, but seeing as how you've been watching anime since last week, you probably wouldn't know that.
Why didn't Lancer go looking for 4-leaf clovers? He's Irish isn't he?
Barely. Archer was in a pretty bad condition afterwards. Still blocking thrown bulge is an impressive feat but Raw Anus can't block causality bending Gay Bulge.
>In that regard, Lancer's lance is appropriate to be called a Noble Phantasm.
A weapon that always strikes the heart cannot be blocked merely by knowing about it.
If one is to oppose that demonic lance, one must…
Prepare a shield overwhelming the magical energy of the lance,
have great enough luck to change the fate determined by the lance,
or prevent him from using the lance in the first place.
So Raw Anus can block the non-thrown version like in Extra :^)
Is it worse than Alexander who invites his entire clan to every match. Or Emiya and Gilgamesh who have Quake amounts of guns in CoD and spam killstreaks. Fuck now I want a holy grail war with all the servants in a FPS.
>Using game mechanics as a means to justify how conceptual weapons work in a normal setting
>Not reading the new material released on Gae Bolg that brings it to authority-tier level
I cannot believe that people, given the terrible quality writing of this series, actually defend this crude low res picturebook CYOA version.
To what depths does the fitting in autism hivemind go?
>giving Extra example
Hassan is my nigga. Look at him and his terrifying appearance.
It's utterly retarded they haven't made any video games out of this series. It's an atrocity against humanity that its primary source is a VN of all fucking things. It's the worst possible medium for it
Can someone tell me where Chapter 2 is in the Tsukihime manga? It goes from Chapter 1 (here) to Chapter 3
This Hassan's wrath is actually amazing on a team that could allow Hassan to "prepare" his >>119337445
Same thing happened when he was fighting Saber. He could have just killed her right there, but 1) He got pissed off that his NP did not kill him
Like the raging, afking faggot he is :^)and 2) Kotomine told him to retreat. To be fair, he should have used his Disengage skill, but he was sure that Saber was gonna follow him and he wanted to fight her. Otherwise they would have forgotten how his NP works.
The last petal shattered and Archer was covered in wounds. Gae Bolg broke through. But it didn't kill Archer which is why Cu got mad.
It was the attack that killed Ferdiad the invincible and his own son Connla, so of course Cu would be mad that anyone survived.
Assassin would win every single grail war if nasu wasn't a hack
or in /a/ speak -- if "assassin wasn't retarded" -- this is what /a/nons say when they forget for some reason, that all retardation is the result of nasu
>It's utterly retarded they haven't made any video games out of this series
You're kidding, right? Fate/Extra, Fate/Extra CCC, Unlimited Codes, and Battle Moon Wars off the top of my head. Melty Blood if you count can handle turkeys.
He just used the thrown version since Archer called him a 'dog' and revealed he knew his identity so as to end the fight. The fact that Archer had a shield to even block that pissed him off more than the fact that the technique that made him a hero was blocked since it boggled his mind that an Archer with such a shield existed since there should be no such hero like that.
>Most knights get skills or abilities that counter PC and can protect their masters if need be
Literally only like Li could win in an actually competitive Grail War from canon.
Pic related is amazing.
VN is actually one of the best possible medium for character exploration like F/SN.
I'm assuming the official release messed up and this is the real Chapter 2
Archer immediately says he's amazed that Rho Aias was pierced because he thought that was impossible. From mirror moon's translation:
>But this is the result. I used up most of my magical energy, one of my arms is destroyed, and Aius is shattered.
>Powerlevel discussion is fine
>but only if you use my autistic vocabulary
Except the characters are poorly written shit except to literature ignorami (which unfortunately makes up a large % of the unwashed plebs on /a/) and the only good part of fate are the battles and casual high level plot points of "Magecraft + Heroic spirit servants".
I shouldn't need to tell you what mediums such a series is best suited to.
>Except the characters are poorly written
Literally, characters are the only thing Nasu is GOOD at writing.
His battles are pretty basic when you get down to it, so the battles are not the well-written parts of Fate. So much "Saber is a tempest, but Berserker is an explosion" details which tell us actually nothing, the combat narrative is dry and repetitious and takes twenty lines to describe half a second of fight.
>/a/ thinks it's allowed to speak on literature
>a board that consumes inhuman amounts of shitty genre fiction for its mere escapism `value`
the only thing Nasu is good at writing is overall "cool" shit.
I've had enough of this bait, thank you.
Sheesh. I just asked for you(?) to elaborate.
I don't watch much anime. I have anime that are on my list of general media to get to, but I don't consume any more than any other medium.
I don't know what nerfs she got since I'm EOP but she didn't seem all that great in Vol 1 and 2. Chiron seemed to be doing much better overall than her.
Though she did only really fight spartacus and he's pretty durable.
She's from that thing that came before Fate, you know, Tsukihime.
that anime right? yeah i've been meaning to watch it
ahaha that stupid fucking faggot his 'waifu' got chopped to bits who does something like that who choose something like that
Tsukihime remake when
This is true. I will admit that the fanbase is rather lackluster.
To be fair that is because Berserker is the best fighter in the entire series in terms of straight up combat. If Illya did not bind his mind with the "enforced Madness" and allowed him to think sane, he would have won the war in a day.
I gave up hope a long time ago for that.