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Well, /a/?

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Well, /a/?
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Ilya.
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I pick the girl that's dying within a year, at best.
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>>118487007
The one that can handily beat the other.
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TOHSAKA RIN PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY
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>>118487007
llya
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>>118487007
Illya no contest
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Taiga
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>>118487007
Gotta go with Ilya-chan.
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Rin.
I normally side with the loli but Ilya is an annoying cunt.
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>>118487386
You don't have to samefag just to start a conflict
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>2014 ± 1
>Not Ilya
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>>118487007
I think I never chose Tohsaka during this scene.
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I'll pick Illya over anyone every time.
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This is an Illya thread, right? I can go ahead and post pictures of her then?
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>>118487547
llya has claimed this thread so yes
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>Tohsaka
>Old men
>Money
You know the drill.
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>>118487547
Of course. It certainly isn't a Tohsaka thread.
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>>118487547
>>>/c/
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>>118487598
Looks kinda weird
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I pick best girl, of course
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>>118487007

Rin. I don't trust Ilya for shit after Fate route. She's the definition of two faced.
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>>118487007
Waifu and Daughteru
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>>118487007
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>>118487644
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How can you say you love her when you don't even wear her clothes and pretend to be like her once a week
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>illya will never turn you into her own personal lovedoll
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>>118487703
Who the hell wears something like this in the middle of the day?
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>>118487712
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>>118487768
She doesn't like the cold.
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>>118487712
>implying I don't
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>>118487768
It's in the middle of winter and snowing.
The CGs just do a shitty job of showing that
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>>118487768

Yeah she should wear a hoodie with sweatpants and moon boots like all the western girls instead.
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>>118487007
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>>118487814
Considering she has no pigments it makes more sense for her to carry an umbrella and maybe a thin sundress, oh wait the character designers can't into fashion.
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I want to marry Illyasviel Von Einzbern!
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>>118487879
>carry an umbrella and maybe a thin sundress
It's the middle of winter
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>>118487879
>implying this isn't cute as fuck
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>>118487914
I didn't see any winter.
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I doubt somebody actually chose Tohsaka.
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>>118487896
>A dress wearing a dress
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Obviously
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>>118487950
>Early February
This is winter as long as you're not an aussie.
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>>118487758
The only thing she's good for.
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>>118487914
Well the sun is just as dangerous in the winter for fair skinned, doubly so if there is snow on the ground.
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Cute Ilya
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>>118487965
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>>118488018
So her death is just magics term for skin melanoma?
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Because she's not an obnoxious albino bitch.
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Why can't the Emiya/Einzbern families be happy?
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>>118488050
Does being her sex doll means the same as being stuck in limbo?
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>>118488082
Key Aids anon.

Its always Key aids
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Why does Illya stop aging? Do they actualy explain this? You can clearly see a difference between Zero and Stay Night, but she clearly doesn't age ten years. Does she just age slowly, or did she just stop when she hit ten?
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>>118488118
Because the Kerry murdered his father and mentally fucked up his kids. Chain disturbed somewhat.
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>>118488147
Homunculus magic or something
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>>118488147
Because she gets turned into a grail host, if not she would have aged normally
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>>118488147
because she isn't a human being.
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>>118488361
They can make Homunculus to appear at any age, Illya is the only naturally born one.
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>>118488361
I thought Iris came out of a tube as an adult already. Wasn't Kerry the one who taught her how to do shit.
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>>118487007
Neither.
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>>118488436
Ah.Yes, I remember that episode
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>>118488483
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>>118488414
>>118488436
Ahh, So Iri started out as an adult? That makes sense.
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>>118488483
You have your own thread, wormgirl.
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Sakura.
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>>118488527
Hey, it could be worse.
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>>118488595
Let's just keep it to Ilya, anon
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>>118488527
>>118488595
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What's she listening to?
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Ilya
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Ilya is cute but she's kind of bumfuck insane
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>>118488801
Is this considered good singing in that language? Cause it kind of sounds bad
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>>118488739
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsxLRrnnmA
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>>118488719
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>>118488690
Wow, after 4 year I finally see this picture as it is, with no doctor Gil edit.
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>>118488739
http://youtu.be/DzD76g4BlQA
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>>118488739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHnNLfc0OX0
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>>118488844
That's nothing. Have some more of her singing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzD76g4BlQA
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>>118488739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFtdWm0Njoo
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>>118488881
I won't take any chances, I'll take both
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>>118488831
So is pretty much everyone else in Fuyuki.
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>>118488937
I beat you to it
>>118488919
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>>118487007
Rin, of course.
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>Ilya dies in most routes

Shit sux
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>>118489140
why does Berserker look like that?
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>>118489225
because he'a demi-god turned insane
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>>118489140
Why is Berserker so tiny?
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>>118489184
She dies in all routes. the most she can hope for is surviving a little bit longer.
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>>118489184
She only has a few years before she dies naturally thanks to the modifications done on her
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>>118489305
Then Fate is Ilya's good end
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>>118487007
Seibah
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>>118487007
Rin, but Rin will never betray me so I'll go with the killer loli that might if I don't make her happy.
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>>118489757
Yandere is the purest form of love.
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>>118489941
then is Ilya a yandere? I thought she's just have a warped mind
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>not picking cas-ko
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>>118489474
said no nobody
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>>118489757
>Rin will never betray me
>what is Geas
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>>118490348
That's Shirou's fault, and I was worried about dying by not pleasing the killer loli. Rin would in fact never kill you, unless you are in a horrible state and need to be put out.
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>>118490495
>That's Shirou's fault
>implying
Rin is a cunt.
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>>118490630
>being this retarded

Please stop posting.
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But seriously though, is there anybody who actually picked Rin? The scene that plays after you pick her might be one of TM's greatest mysteries.
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>>118490703
Well rin is one of the most popular TM characters so I assume a lot of people picked her.
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>>118490703
I picked her because I wanted to see if getting Rin points led to anything. It didn't.
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>>118489474
Seiba!
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>>118490266
>Fur color not matching hair color
I hate it.
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>>118490703
I like Rin the most, but I only picked her after I picked Illya, out of curiosity.
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>>118490495
>Implying Rin isn't the one who betrayed Archer in his timeline
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Ilya.
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>>118490703
I picked Rin then loaded and went for Illya for obvious reasons.
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>>118487386
>>118487644
>>118487661
>>118488092
>>118489757
>>118490922
>Having a waifu so disgustingly poor that she has please old men for money just so she can pay for her food
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>>118491056
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>>118491056
Luvia pls
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>>118490960
How would Rin benefit in any way from betraying Shirou?
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>>118490960
Literally impossible. It's noted the one who betrayed him was male.

It was likely Shinji, or possibly Issei.
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>>118491056
>implying Luvia will ever be relevant
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>>118491056
Luvia a shit.
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>>118491056
That underwear
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>>118491076
She associates with evil old men.
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>>118491112
>Issei ever betraying Emiya
Nope has to be Shinji.
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>>118491056
Get outta here Luvia.
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>>118491112
>>118491189
it's Shinji in Extraverse and most likely someone we don't even know of for F/SN's EMIYA
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>>118487337
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOH
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>>118491056
Implying I give a fuck.
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>>118491112
>It's noted the one who betrayed him was male.
Rin probably grew a penis after old men experimented on her.
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>>118491377
Is something wrong with your mouth, Hercules?
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>>118491429
Epic.
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>>118487007
>>118487661
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>>118491189
It's not that hard to imagine.
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>>118491529
That's caster.
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>>118491529
This whole thing would have been more interesting if Issei was fake Assassin's master and Bazett was Lancer's master.
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>>118491564
broes before hoes
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>>118491654
>Issei was fake Assassin's master
No that's stupid.

>Bazett was Lancer's master.
Maybe if you can still find a way for Kotomine to still fit in, but it would be completely different.
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>>118491189
Maybe Issei killed him in a jealous fit.
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>>118491654
What do you mean? Issei being hypnotized by Caster into being FA's master or consciously being his master? Also Bazett and Lancer would be almost impossible for anyone to take down
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>>118491541
Prisma Iri > Prisma Ilya
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Illya comes with maids, Tohsaka only comes with a worm-ridden slut.
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>>118491747
That's way out of character.
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>>118491758
>Also Bazett and Lancer would be almost impossible for anyone to take down
Well Gil should be impossible for anyone to take down too
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>>118491775
Too bad Sella is an annoying bitch.
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>>118491782
Don't make me turn this into a powerlevel discussion
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>>118491809
She's a good girl.
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>>118491775
>Tohsaka only comes with a worm-ridden slut.

what
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>>118491830
Just sayin, plot happens
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>>118491830
pls no
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>>118491758
>Bazett and Lancer would be almost impossible for anyone to take down
Berserker could wreck them actually.
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>>118491834
HA made Sella out to be such a bitch.
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>>118491855
>>118491862
Lancer buffed with his own runes and Bazett's stalls Gil long enough until he's frustrated and takes out EA. Then Fraggle Rock GG
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>>118491902
That's because she is one.

>>118491834
>liking nagging moms
Freud would like a word with you.
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>>118491914
This actually sounds plausible.

Still loses to Berserker though.
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>>118491891
Lancer on his best day with Kotomine as a Master might just have a chance of killing Berserker by himself. if Bazett's there, his chances are way better. OR while Lancer Gay Bulges Beserker, Bazett kicks Illya's head off
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>>118487007
I don't like lolis, but Rin is such a huge bitch that I'd pick Illya.
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>>118491762
>Prisma Iri
I'd watch the shit out of it
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>>118488719
>We could have had this if Tokiomi wasn't such a fuckhead retard
So glad Kotomine killed him in the most crushing way possible
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>>118491914
My point was actually that in the main story, Gilgamesh is also a person who should be "almost impossible for anyone to take down", yet it happens, anyway, so just the presence of very strong character doesn't necessarily completely railroad the story, because plot
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>>118492022
Yeah I see what you mean. It's kinda also why Bazett is not present in F/SN (besides the fact she was desgined for Tsukihime 2 first and then repurposed for F/HA)
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>this thread
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>>118491970
Bazett's fraggy makes no real difference. Of course, she'll give him more mana, but that won't help him much.

>Lancer Gay Bulges Beserker, Bazett kicks Illya's head off
That's literally they're only chance to win, but it's extremely slim.
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>>118491983
>Rin is such a huge bitch

Rude.
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>>118492079
Wouldn't have it any other way.
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>>118492080
>Bazett kicks Illya's head off
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>>118489305
>She dies in all routes

WHY.jpg
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>Illya

Why ? ;_;
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>>118491983
>>118491983
>Rin is such a huge bitch
Totally, the loli that kills Shirou a million times is certainly better.
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>>118492018
I want an universe where we could get that. Both Tohsaka sisters blowing shit up, kicking asses and keeping Fuyuki's peace. Together they could be quite the monstruous force.
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>>118492111
>after that the remainder of time where Heracles still has prana and the Irish team can do nothing but run for their dear lives
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>>118491775
>dialogue

wat
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>>118492192
Maybe there's a universe where Kariya wins the 4th war, kills Zouken and saves Sakura from becoming a wormslut.
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>>118492192
>together
>mage sisters with one inheritance
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>>118487007
Shirou is a strong independent sword who don't need no whore.
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>>118492018
>>118492192
But you wouldn't have HF, the best route.
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>>118492293
They could become the next eldefelts.
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>>118492180
>the loli that kills Shirou a million times is certainly better
It's kind of cute how she keeps his corpse after killing him.
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>>118488881
Rape them both. The one who cries is Hisui.
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>>118492293
I actually think Sakura would be OK with Rin getting the crest as long as she doesn't flaunt that around so much.
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>>118492514
Maybe, it's kind of hard to tell. It might be that Sakura might not turn out to have such a jealous streak if she weren't sent away and Rin might not have been such a stick in the mud.
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>>118492493
Didn't Kohaku cry when Shiki raped her?
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>>118492298
>wanting all that suffering
I like HF the best too, but I want to dream.
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Granpa. Money. You know.
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>>118492298
It would go back to being the Ilya route if wormslut wasn't around.
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So what the fuck does Imaginary Numbers do anyway?
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>>118492743
Rin is pure.
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>>118492789
i?
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>>118492789
Project real numbers onto the complex plane
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>>118492584
They seemed to be pretty happy together before the whole thing with the adoption and the worms happened, so I think it's possible Sakura wouldn't develop as much (if any) resentment if Rin were to get the crest in such an scenario. She might even adopt a supportive role towards her sister? Who knows.
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>>118492789
Tickles ghost.
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>>118492789
There's a lot of applications. There's a lot of integrals that you cannot solve without using techniques that involve complex numbers.
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>>118492800
>tfw we'll be getting jackhammer dolphins
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>>118492800
She is just acting.
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Guys. can someone post that webm were Kuro is kissing Miyu and Ilya with the ntr'd expression.
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>>118487591
>drill
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>>118492789
Lets you summon Leonhard Euler as a heroic spirit.
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>>118493909
best loli
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>>118487007
Rin obviously. Followed by everyone who isn't Sakura.
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>>118490665
>m-muh tsundere waifu can't be a bitch!
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>>118492800
That scene is obsolete, go read the new and improved version. She's no virgin.
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>>118494545
>covering up your stupidity with implications
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>>118494712
The only stupidity here is yours.
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>>118494664
And let me guess, you think Sakura's a virgin, right?
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>>118494733
>no u

really
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>>118487647
Your daughteru is older than your waifu son. Get your shit together
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>>118494746
No, I don't think she is.

I know she is.
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>>118495123
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>>118495149
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>>118495123
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>>118494929
I'm still not sure how to take this scene given what she knows and what HA is really about.

Avenger really did need a hug, I'll give Ilya that.
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>>118494664
That screenshot that's always posted is from a bad end anyway.
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>>118487647
You can't have a same character be both your daughteru and waifu.
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>>118495216
No, it's not.
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>>118495180
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>>118495289
Nice porno there.
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>>118495213
Isn't that actually Shirou though? Since Avenger only possesses him during daytime.
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>>118495311
>>118495289
For what purpose do they even have a mouth and teeth?
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>>118487007
[guitar riff]
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>>118495325
It's not really clear. You have to go to Ilya's castle before night time to get to that scene.
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>>118495311
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>>118495347
because they eat males
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>>118492800
>I yell, hoping to make her back down

Every time
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>>118488365

Wouldn't her genetics be identical to a humans?
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>>118495325
>>118495398
I thought Avenger only possessed Shirou around Caren.
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>>118495379
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>>118495436
The front isn't a penis, so it's okay.
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>>118495279
Why use the wrong image without the joke?
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>>118495436
They merged the Realta Nua and original versions.

So incoming implied sex with fade to dolphins?
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>>118495463

No. He's in him at all times. He just takes control around Caren and Illya for his own reasons.

F/H Ataraxia was shit. Shhiiiiiitttt.
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>>118487007
Ilya, Kaleid edition.
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>>118495525
>He just takes control around Caren and Illya for his own reasons.
Sorry that's what I meant.

>F/H Ataraxia was shit. Shhiiiiiitttt.
No it wasn't. It was pretty fun and the main plot was nice.
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>>118495436
>>118495503
>fade to fishes confirmed
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>>118495491
The front actually seemed to be the penis side.
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>>118495446
They also eat placentas iirc
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>>118487050
you're not a Type-Moon protag till you rape the maids
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>>118494855
it just means he is in a higher tax bracket than you
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>>118495560

No. If you approached it with a mind that you're about to read funny SOL hijinks in a F/SN setting yea, it was OK. If you, like me, went in expecting F/SN S2, it was utter garbage.
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>>118495684
>expecting F/SN S2
That's your fault for being retarded. It's a fandisk. Do you not know what that is?
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>>118495684
The first hour of reading should've told you enough
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>>118495684
I pretty much just ended up clicking only the exclamation point scenes after I got through a few Rin scenes. The main story is legit good (if a bit needlessly complex), it's just the SOL that's crap
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>>118495781
>it's just the SOL that's crap
Do you just hate the F/SN characters or something? I don't understand; the cast interacting with each other was great. There's a lot of funny moments and good scenes in there.
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>>118495684
>implying this scene isn't better than most of F/SN
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>>118495850

Not him, but I love SOL, That said, this particular slice of life happened to be crap.

>muh quiz ogre
>muh minigames
>muh 4th wall

Excuse me if I want my SOL to take itself seriously.
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>>118495850
The amount of cooking/food scenes was downright unreasonable. Seeing the characters interact is one thing, but seeing them go over the same damn topics repeatedly is another.
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>>118495869

No. The only good scene was the Archer bridge fight. That was alright.
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Rinfags ITT, I'm playing Extra for the third time. Should I bother playing Rani's route this time? She's boring and I don't like the idea of killing Rin, but at the same time, just swapping Saber/Archer for Caster with the exact same story for the third time seems like it might be even more tedious.
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>>118495980
yeah go for it, it's not even the real Rin anyway
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>>118495912
The quiz ogre and minigames are just a small handful of scenes.

>4th wall
I don't recall this happening ever. If it did, it was very little.

>>118495935
There's a lot of them, but I don't think it's unreasonable. Especially when you consider it's one of the defining traits of Shirou. But there's plenty of scenes that have nothing to do with cooking or food. Most of the scenes with Caster, Rider, Rin or Illya, for example. Most of the cooking stuff is with Saber and Sakura (not surprisingly).
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>>118495850
>the F/SN characters
>characters
They weren't even near the same thing. Everyone was wildly out of character in the SOL scenes, except maybe Lancer, Ilya and Taiga.
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>>118495289

What do the rape worms need mouths and teeth for if they feed off the electricity in the nervous system of their victim?
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>>118496048
It's unreasonable because they straight up got additional writers for the fandisk. If it was just Nasu, you know, okay, maybe he has limited things he can come up with, but fuck, they got other people in and there were still tons of scenes about cooking.

And it's not like FSN, where the scenes can actually lead to stuff. Most of the time the cooking just all you get.
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>>118496086
they eat the flesh of men
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Who exactly is Avenger, if not the Persian villager guy? Where did/does his sense of identity come from?
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>>118496076
Only Rin is out of character (whenever she hits people).
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>>118496030
Rin in Extra is more or less how F/SN Rin would be given Extra's setting. Maybe F/SN Rin wouldn't have the, er, freedom fighter aspects, but she wouldn't fit into the plot as well if she didn't.
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>>118496107
It's just lighthearted SOL. There's not much anybody can do with it. Food is always prevalent in any SOL stuff. I liked reading about the household wars over food in F/HA.
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>>118496111

I thought those were a different breed of worm - Sakura's worms were made fresh from the 4th Grail.
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>>118496189
that's not what I mean. the Tohsaka Rin in Fate/EXTRA is not the daughter of Tokiomi and Aoi
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>>118496223
They could come up with anything involving the characters, but they chose.

The whole point of these scenes are to see the characters in new situations. Cooking was not something new to FSN.
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>>118496150
>baby Gil
>Shirou not acting like Shirou
>Saber h scene
>saber alter
>Sakura having split personalities between HF Sakura and an actual highschool girl without any issues.
>Rider. Rider rider. Rider rider? Rider rider, rider!
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>You will never save Illya
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>>118496150
You weren't paying any attention, were you? Sakura became way more confident and outgoing, Saber became an infantilized hormonal teenage moeblob, Rider was far less withdrawn and more independent of Sakura (granted she never had much of a personality to begin with), Archer became nothing more than a long-winded trolling old prick, Caster retained none of her haughtiness or her deadly femme fatale aspects, and don't get me started on Gil.
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>>118495869
My favorite scene was Lancer vs Bazette. It was essentially the last and final giant fuck you to everything she was trying to do by showing that for her, no matter how many times she could retry, she could never win the war since she could never beat that servant.
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>>118496341

Don't forget that Shirou didn't feel like Shirou at all unless he was in the kitchen or out shopping with Caster.
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>>118496259
Well, yes, but it wouldn't mean anything in EXTRA even if she was. EXTRA Rin has an entirely different ideological conflict. However, she shares the same appearance, personality and role in the plot as F/SN Rin, which makes her close enough to me.
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>>118496341
Sakuara's confidence is a natural consequence of post-HF as you see in the true end. Saber was always a moeblob (and she IS a hormonal teenager). Read Fate again. Rider wasn't a character. Since when was Archer not a trolling old prick? Caster simply mellowed out because she was not fighting anyone. Baby Gil is literally not the same person.

>>118496300
See above

>>118496431
>Shirou didn't feel like Shirou
This literally makes no sense at all to me. Give me a specific example that's not Avenger in control.
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another try /a/
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>>118487007
Ilya every time
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>>118496150
>Rin is out of character (whenever she hits people)
Sounds like we've got ourselves a Rinfag in denial!
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>>118496587
Never happens in the novel. All shit added by Ufotable.
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>>118496587
>using something ufo added in as proof

try again, secondary
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>>118487007
rin

if you pick ilya then rin rightly calls you out on your pedophilia
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>>118496519
>they're all different people now because LOL Rin's multiverse experiment done gone boom LOL

And you wonder why we don't take Ataraxia seriously.

Been a while, and off the top of my head I can't give an specific examples, but I remember thinking countless times "This isn't Fate/UBW/HF" Shirou AT ALL.
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>>118496587
Rin never hurt Shirou.
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>>118488937
What the actual fuck.
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>>118496645
>>And you wonder why we don't take Ataraxia seriously.
Well you aren't supposed to.

But all of Ataraxia's characters (besides Rin) are simply natural and logical consequences of post grail war survival and peace. I'll give you that Rider is mostly completely different, but she had no real character in F/SN besides "protect Sakura" anyways and it's not outlandish.
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>>118496519
>natural consequence of post HF
Even assuming that everything in HA follows directly from HF (which it very explicitly does not), the emotional fallout from all the shit Sakura went through would likely still be affecting her after six months, even with everyone's support. People don't change that quickly.

>Saber was always a moeblob
Even in Fate, she tried to retain her dignity as a knight (with one or two exceptions). Not so in HA.

>Since when was Archer not a trolling old prick
He never was. You literally missed the point of Archer's character if that's what you thought he was (much like the writers). Archer in HA fucks with Lancer in fishing competitions and gives long winded speeches after rescuing cats in trees. Archer in F/SN was bitter towards Shirou because he wanted to change Shirou, not because he wanted to be.
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>>118496685
There's the gandr school fight and the eraser bullet, but otherwise yeah.
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>>118496758
You can't really put the school fight down to "tsundere antics". They were both masters in a war, and it was technically their obligation to fight each other.
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>>118488147
>>118488365
>>118488314
>>118488290
>>118488361
>>118488414
>>118488436
>secondaries
No, dumb shits.
She just ages at about 1/2 normal speed.
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>>118496625
>>118496628
>shitting on the UBW anime just because it proves your waifu is a violent bitch
Fate/Stay Mad
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>>118496838
Is that why Caster is future Illya?

Does that mean Kuzuki is Assassin?
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>>118496863
Ufotable's done a good job adapting the route, but that stuff still wasn't in the novel.
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>>118496863
>being this desperate
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>>118496753
>People don't change that quickly.
I disagree. People can change frighteningly fast. Some people can get over horrifying events quite fast. Sakura not being completely fucking insane is a good indicator that she can get over trauma really fast. I only brought up HF because it's obvious that HA takes place after she is freed from wormrape and that end explicitly talks about her getting more outgoing and confident. It's a logical development.

>Even in Fate, she tried to retain her dignity as a knight (with one or two exceptions). Not so in HA.
What the fuck does this even mean? She beats up Shirou if you don't make lunch for her in once choice. She's a huge moeblob in fate that does nothing but eat when she doesn't fight.

>He never was.
Did you not read the prologue or something? Yeah Archer is really a good guy at heart, but that doesn't mean he doesn't pick on people and act like a prick a lot. It's obvious that he likes to fuck with people; it's part of his twisted character.
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>>118491967
>implying
what is fire rune nigga
Lancer hard counters Berserker. Honestly, TM powerlevels are all rock paper scissors. Lancer/Bazett is weak to Caster and Rider, probably.
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>>118496916
I think you meant to quote >>118496898.
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>>118496882
Kuzuki is Shiki from the past brought to the future, just like how Ryunosuke was Shirou's dad.
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>>118496964
I think I meant your dick in my mouth
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>>118496863
b8
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>>118496863
Hey, I like a Rin that is forceful with Shirou.
Tsundere violence is normally frowned upon because it's played for shitty comedy, but that's not what they're doing in the anime. Rin shoves Shirou around to emphasize her points, to remind him that he can't afford to act as idiotically as he does.
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>>118496980
Well, if that's the way you want it...
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>>118496966
Then who is the blue man?
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>>118496950
No he doesn't. From Nasu regarding Lancer vs Berserker.

>Lancer can use his runes and Noble Phantasm together to temporarily raise the rank to A, but it'd still be a very disadvantageous fight but "one with some chances".
He likely wouldn't win.
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>>118495123
>>118495436
>this shit again
I don't get Sakurafags. I mean, I don't particularly like her, but I don't dislike her either. It seems dishonest to cherrypick attributes of characters like that. Oh, I don't like rape, so I deny the fact that Guts was raped too?

These traumas are what make the characters what they are. They create motivations and explain characterization. If Sakura wasn't raped, that makes her actions much less ambiguous and honestly makes her out to be a bit of a temperamental bitch.

But all in all, if deny Sakura's past, you deny her character in general, and that's just deplorable.
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>>118497015
haha homosexual
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>>118496966
>gil and saber
>parent, married and siblings
Every time.
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>>118497063
Word.

Wormfags are the worst, purely because they deny the worm.
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>>118497063
It doesn't change a single thing other than retards not being able to fling buzzwords like "slut" and "used goods" at her. She was still tortured and experimented on for years.
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>>118497122
what would spice be in the nasuverse?
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>>118497122
The only denial here is yours about Realta Nua.
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>>118497171
I think you know.
>>118488595
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>>118497222
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>118495503
>fade to dolphins

wat
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>>118497430
>Shirou and Rin about to do the do
>scene transitions to those swirly dolphins/sperm shit that's been foreshadowed since episode 00
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>>118497430
>clothes off
>about to fuck
>fade to black
>all you can hear is dolphin chirping
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>>118495678
god damn it, that was actually funny
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>>118497556
>They come back
>Others ask what they were doing
>They say it involved ten paperclips, two pairs of socks and a Twister mat
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>>118497559
So they decided to just flog the dolphin instead?
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>>118487007
I guess this is the Fate thread. Got around to watching this shit and he's as strong as a servant?

The fuck? Servants are stronger than humans due to grail magic in most cases (except vs weak upclose fighter like caster).

But versus Seiba who isn't holding back? Bullshit.
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>>118498053
Read the VN you filthy secondary.
But I'll agree the explanation for it could have been done better
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>>118498053
>servants are stronger than humans due to grail magic
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>>118498053
She's holding back. She can't use her NP due to lack of mana and dangers with spending it all.

Anyway, it's three things:
1) He trained at his fighting style for literally his entire life. It was literally his entire fucking life until he was sent to kill his target.
2) His fighting style is so unorthodox and makes so little sense that literally everything he does is a huge surprise to saber. If it weren't for her intuition, she wouldn't be able to dodge any of it.
3) He's being buffed by caster, who is even more of a monster than F/Z's caster in terms of raw power.
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>>118498053

DOES EVERYONE FUCKING FORGET THAT CASTER IS A SERVANT TOO
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>>118498197
>>118498323
>>118498135
>>118498106
>taking bait

guyz

pls

guyz
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>>118498323
You can't blame them. Caster only has significance in UBW, and even then, she's way overshadowed by Shirou and Archer.
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>>118498387
I'm simply responding to a question. If nobody gave a straight answer, other idiots would take what he says to heart.
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>>118498053
ok I can't believe no one else is calling him a retard

no the grail doesn't make servants stronger. sure most servants will gain a skill or two from the class they're in and SOME servants receive a Noble Phantasm that represents an abstract idea about them (mainly writers who end up as Caster or Iskandar) but most Sevants are weaker than when they were alive, Cu and Herakles being prime examples
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>>118487647

You mean Sisterfu and Waifu.
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>>118498197

I'm not really buying into the servant vs human power levels fluctuation thing. Souichirou gets to choke a bitch, but the author goes to say that Ciel would barely be able to survive a defensive battle vs an average servant.
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>>118498511
Really, Kuzuki making her his bitch was a fluke. Everything was stacked in his favor, including his first punches.
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>>118495684
>went in expecting F/SN S2
Holy shit. What a faggot.
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>>118498511
>>118498555
Let's not forget about UBW Shirou apparently being badass enough to take out Gil and Archer and HF Sakura becoming a Servant and plot devouring black hole.

The strongest person is whoever Nasu wants to be the strongest person.
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>>118495781
I didn't enjoy the main story much.
Actually the story itself wasn't bad, but the nun rape and ending scene where everyone helps with the fight made no sense. It was leading up to Shirou/Avenger and Bazette (specifically Bazette) having to stop this by themselves since it was only happening because they wanted it to, which was fine. Then it turns into the big ass fucking war that everyone randomly decided to take part in because without them Shivenger would get overwhelmed and not be able to end everything?

I mean if you ignore that whole part and only think of the Avenger/Bazette part the ending was decent, but wow. Seemed like they just wanted an excuse for everyone to fight and pulled it out of their ass.
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>>118498643
the fight between Shirou and Archer was about anything but strenght and against Gilgamesh, what was the most imporant wasn't the Reality Marble itself, but finding it a definite answer as to what constitues his self and his magecraft.

It's fun to discuss powerlevel shit, I do it too, but sometimes it makes us lose sight of the true significiance of the more important fights
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>>118498643
The Archer fight makes 100% sense. Shirou didn't just take him down by brute force; he took him out mentally. Archer wanted to completely break the guy before killing him, so when he wouldn't back down from his ideals despite everything being thrown at him, it screwed with Archer. It started causing him to question his own beliefs and whether or not his ideals were a mistake. Ultimately he lost because he stopped believing in his cause.

Gil was Shirou's need resolution as a character. After overcoming himself and reaffirming this ideals weren't a mistake, he needed a challenge that would put him to the test. Thematically no one was better than Gil. The "fake" hero vs the first. It went hand in hand with the whole imitation against original theme seen throughout the route.
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>>118498511

Ciel would probably get her head caved in from Caster-buffed Kuzuki, too.
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>>118498741
When I say the "main story", I refer only to the parts involving Avenger and Bazett (and the one or two where Caren was relevant). Most of the other stuff was really pointless, like Rin being in London or the fight with Archer on the bridge.

The nun rape was supposed to be about Avenger having feelings for Caren but not knowing how to express them like a normal human due to being, well, the embodiment of hatred. The war thing makes sense if you think about it in the context that their feelings about ending the four day cycle are still complicated and the friends represent their desire to end it while the monsters are their desire to perpetuate it. It's still a dumb excuse for a fight, but, uh, if you need to contextualize it, there you go.
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>>118498991

Which one does Avenger love more, Bazette or Caren? He seems to have feelings for both.
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>>118499994
If you ask me, he loved Bazett more, but his romantic feelings were for Caren. His love for Bazett was platonic.
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>>118491809
>>118491902

I usually don't like characters like her, but Sella is simply adorable. The way she tries to hide her feelings behind a wall of hostility that slips into mischief, it's tsundere done right. That part where they investigated the wine cellar was bad for my heart.
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>>118495684
>If you, like me, went in expecting F/SN S2, it was utter garbage.

It was stellar and 10 times better than FSN no matter what you were expecting. Faggot.
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>>118500329
>better

Really man?
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>>118496937
>Sakura not being completely fucking insane
She is insane.

Not all insanity is rampant axe murder. She is not, by any definition of the term, normal.
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>>118500362
>Not recognizing bait when you see it
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>>118500362

Yes, really. It works way better as a game, as a story and as an audiovisual experience. The way it expands upon the characters and their stories just makes FSN look that much more incomplete.
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>>118500440
>It works way better as a game, as a story and as an audiovisual experience

The fuck does that even mean? The story is basically 70% SoL scenes. Except for the Bazett and her parts of the narrative, it's basically just supplemental material that expands on some characters.
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>>118500531
>The story is basically 70% SoL scenes.

And? You wanted flashy shounen superpower battles every five minutes? Those scenes are what define the characters and their life.
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>>118500618
If I wanted just a million SoL scenes, I could read countless other VNs.

HA is supplemental material with a bit of plot added in to actually have some real content. You're kidding yourself if you actually think it somehow surpasses the original novel.
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>>118492789
Allows you to create an artificial heaven.
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