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>http://www.funimation.com/blog/2014/10/29/introducing-funimation-broadcast-dubs/

Is this the worst anime-related news to come out the entire year? I can't think of anything else that could compare.
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>dubs of shows still airing in Japan
Man, I hope they're not rushing those American voice actors. It'd be a shame for the dub to not have the usual quality we've come to appreciate and expect from domestic talent.

If they have enough money to pay a dozen hacks to phone it in for every show, they're not paying enough in licensing fees.
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>>117832950
>usual quality we've come to appreciate and expect from domestic talent.
>talent
>dubs
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>>117833077
I think that was a joke.
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>>117832810
>Is this the worst anime-related news to come out the entire year
No, because dubs, while shit, in no way, shape or form harm you nor the anime industry.
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No, the worst news this year is actually mai waifu dying.
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>>117833388
I'm pretty sure I was physically harmed by dub Agiri saying "girl ninjas gotta poo-poo too." It was practically rape.
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>>117832810
i didnt even know the first season of psychopass had a dub..
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>>117833538
That was a Sentai Filmworks English dub. Not even a sadist would resort to their shit. FUNimation isn't as bad (Baccano dub was alright) but still bad.
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>>117833538
What? That was hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_09dCcsWrGQ
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>>117833643
Sentai is indeed fucking cancer. It's sad because a lot of people at Sentai were from ADV, and ADV used to put out good... well, decent dubs.
I miss Geneon. They did the best dubs that weren't US Manga Corps cheesy.
>>117833077
Geneon's Lupin dub is still my preferred way to watch Lupin.
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>>117833764
>Geneon's Lupin dub is still my preferred way to watch Lupin.
That's even worse. The original Japanese cast is unmatched as far as I'm concerned.
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>>117833764
how did Funi seem to corner the market anyway
there was a bunch of shitshows in the 90's and early aughts now its just Funi and a bunch of even worse shitshows
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>>117833687
Nigger Nyanta was hilarious. Doing that to Agiri was tragic.
http://a.pomf.se/cayqhj.webm
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>>117833687
>casting a nigger to play an asian
My sides cannot be contained.
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>>117833492
Mienfag?
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>>117832810
I fucking hate dubs

I fucking hate everyone that likes supports or in any way condones dubs, dubs need to die in a fucking fire. They are the worst, WORST, acting the lowest form of "entertainment" they are the most low maintenence forms of a cash grab as there ever were. Dubs are literally the most cancerous piece of shit in the entire industry and the fact more of them are still being produced today and further ruining more anime is just proof of how low anime has come. Yes, this is literally the worst anime news to come not just this year, in years, in centuries, since the fucking first day a dub aired on television.

I want this industry to fucking burn, it's gone to complete shit.
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>>117833809
I don't mean to take away from the Japanese. I just mean that Geneon's dub managed to be the only Lupin dub that captured the characters just right and actually pronounce Lupin's fucking name right.
>>117833813
They jumped on the profitable shows like DBZ, Naruto and recently SNK. Doesn't have to be GOOD, Funi just knows where the money is. Companies like Sentai just buy up whatever they can get for cheap, slap a shitty dub on it and ship it out to make a quick buck.
It's a damn abomination the dub they did for Mysterious Girlfriend X. At least it's not like the old VHS days and there can be the original audio, too.
>>117833844
I just heard that little bit from the Log Horizon dub. I don't really like Nyanta's voice since it doesn't have a smooth transition into the "nyaa" tic.
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>>117832810
Are you compelled to watch dubs or something? Just ignore them. This great news to me because my Imōto prefers her anime dubbed. Although I'm not looking forward to rewatching PsychoPass.
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>>117833388
This. Thread/
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Why aren't you learning Japanese yet?
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>>117833886
Nope. Akame ga Kill sucks though.
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>>117833844
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>>117833990
I will agree
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>>117833970
>Letting someone you know let alone a family member watch things dubbed
You should be fucking ashamed of yourself for failing not only as an anime fan but a human being.
>>117833968
Fucking disgraceful, you're seriously calling dubs good? Have you ever even listend to one?
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>>117834033
Have you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJkXnJU8SPE
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>>117834033
I think he's only claiming that some are less cancerous than others.
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Free! English cast got announced recently.
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Brace yourselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7mmon05PwQ
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>>117834033
I prefer subs all the time, I don't like dubs at all, but please calm down.
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>>117834033
>watching dubs makes you fail as an anime fan
This is the shit that's cancerous
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>>117832810
Quit being so fucking dramatic. No one is forcing you to watch dubs.
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>>117834130
Man, that's super lazy sounding. Didn't even last 10 seconds.
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>>117833945
>They are the worst, WORST, acting the lowest form of "entertainment" they are the most low maintenence forms of a cash grab as there ever were.
I thought pornography was the lowest form of acting.
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>>117833970
>letting your imouto watch dubs
>letting your imouto watch anime
>letting your imouto become a fujoshit
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>>117834191
Skip to 1:16.
Just do it.
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>>117834076
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>>117833945
It doesn't just apply to anime, but international films too.
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FUNimation is one thing, but Sentai Filmworks seriously needs to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaM2_dPArBM
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>>117833945
Just kill yourself, please.
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>>117833388
This is the smart response but /a/ being filled with 99% retarded man children will rage about nothing.
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>>117834130
shizuku's VA sounds cute
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>>117834130
vocaroo/10.

>>117834231
>1:16
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>>117832810
Oh god this is /v/ tier drama bullshit quit being such a pussy if you don't like the western market/dubs ignore it/them, but don't make threads about it.
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>>117834231
Well... uh... I guess the producer was nice for letting his kids get in on the voices.
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>>117834319
Feel free to leave.
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>>117833687
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>all the raging autistic weebs ITT

Christ, I prefer subs but this is ridiculous. The majority of dubs aren't *that* bad. I don't get all the anger towards something that literally have to go out of your way to watch.
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>>117834130
>1:16
Oh dear god I'm in tears
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>>117833945
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>>117834033
Hey man, she can't read fast enough for sub.

>>117834225
pic related
if anything she love shounen, despises SoL for 'having no plot' and thinks Eva is 2deep4her. At least she liked Utena & Maware Pengudrum. Her taste needs work to say the least
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>>117834285
>Hi, my name is Chiyo and I'm 16 years old
No you're not, lady.
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>>117834199
Pornography has better actors than dubs do. Unlike dubs there's some actual quality control there.
>>117834264
True, but anime dubs are the absolute lowest.
>>117834310
Get some taste how about.
>>117834462
Sorry to hear.
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>>117834199
I'd rather be credited in a porno than, say, >>117834130
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>>117834361
Feel free to kill yourself.
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Bandai did pretty good dubs like Eureka 7 but they're dead now too so oh well. Not like it really matters.
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>>117834704
Edgy children need to leave, this is a +18 website.
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>>117834740
Eureka 7 had a bad dub. I compared Anemone and Dominic's scene from episode 48, Japanese to English. English sucked half of the emotion right out of it and it barred cringeworthy.
Also Renton and Eureka's skyfall scene from episode 26, in English they overacted the shit out of it and it was just so cheesy.
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>>117834740
What in the fuck, are you deaf and just parroting someone else opinion or something like that? Eureka 7 have horrible dub.
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The only dub I liked was P4tA's.
Which is ironic because I had to play P4 undubbed to actually stomach it.

Which I didn't because it's still a shit game at the end of the day, dubbed or not.
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>>117834740
>dubs
>good

Literally impossible dude

Dubs are genuine total fucking cancerous shit, english voice actors are total fucking undertalented pieces of dogshit who couldn't act if their life depended on it and becuase dubs make so little money they have to go with the people that will accept the lowest pay (aka the worst of the worst) and air it in a pathetic attempt to trick normalfags into watching/buying the show

It's fucking pathetic coming here, /a/ of all places, and seeing people defend dubs. What the fuck happened to you /a/
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>>117833968
>Funi
>Naruto
Actually that was Viz. They don't hold rights to JUST the manga, you know.
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>>117834963
Somebody needs their diaper changed.
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>>117834963
If you came here expecting anything other than "but <list of every dub I watched> was good!", you haven't visited in a while. If that's the case, let me be the first to give you a warning for hurt feelings.
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>>117834799
Says the kid buttmad over dubs
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>>117834963
>Literally impossible dude
>It's fucking pathetic coming here, /a/ of all places, and seeing people defend dubs. What the fuck happened to you /a/
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>>117832810
Why the fuck do I have to enter a captcha to see the fucking website?
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>>117834963
Hope a Japanese ninja truck hits you some day
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This is a pretty poor move on Funi's part. They're already mediocre enough as it is and the added stress of simuldubbing will not improve quality at all. Space Dandy's great dub was a one-time thing, trying to replicate that is futile.

And god damn, I usually stick to subs but you "muh subs"-fags are annoying as hell. You niggers need to go watch You're Under Arrest! or Vampire Hunter D.
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>>117835194
I don't give a shit about dubs, you're just a child complaining about a board you chose to be on and telling people to kill themselves, so why don't you just fuck off?
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>>117835219
You are missing the elder-god tier dub, Golden Boy.
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>>117835219
But the 4Kids dub is the only thing on that chart even remotely good.
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>>117835219
Death Note's dub is alright, but it's not the same without Miyano Mamoru's laugh.
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>>117835219
>NYAV Post Giant Robo and Macross Plus in terrible
>FLCL anywhere near epic
This is a joke chart, right?
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>>117835260
>Space Dandy's great dub
Look at this faggot.
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>>117835219
Evangelion dub terrible.
What? The Evangelion dub is perfectly fine except script rewrites into english struggle to get some of the depth across.

The voices for the characters were fine, especially Rei, Misato and Ritsuko
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>>117835048
/a/ has truly fallen.
>>117835219
Everything there is awful, I've heard about 85% and every single one was awful

See my post>>117834963 and you'll see it's the fact of the matter, japanese voices and acting are just a higher quality than western because westerners are undertalented fuckheads who get hired off the street to voice for a japanese cartoon. End of discussion.
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>>117835219
I miss being able to make fun of 4kids
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>>117835443
>Epic is the highest tier
>3.0 version
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>>117835489
>westerners are undertalented fuckheads
I hope you just mean voice actors. Because the west has the best actual actors in the world.
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This entire thread with the exception of >>117833388 is cancerous.
I blame OP for this monstrosity.
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>>117835479
Platinum edition redub is shit.

Original TV dub is better. No idea why they redubbed it for the Platinum edition. Gendo's preformance in the original TV dub is perfect, but in the platinum edition it's so fucking flat and shit.
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>>117835467
What was wrong with it?
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>>117835489
>I've heard about 85%
If you were so obviously going to hate them all, why did you bother with more than one, much less 85% of that list?
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>>117835525
You realize that chart was made when /a/ actually said words like epic, right?
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>>117833388
Triple dubs confirm dubs aren't harmful
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>>117835279
>Not buttmad over dubs
>In a dub thread bitching

okay bro
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>>117835563
I didn't know back then, I used to want to watch dubs because why read subs if dubs are available?

Then I realized all dubs are shit, I did research and educated myself, I came to /a/, I realized how fucking new I was and fixed myself up so I wasn't a total fucking brainless shitter that watched dubs, I thought back then dubs were just as good as it got.
>>117835533
Yes, I mean voice actors.
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>>117835555
For starters, an annoying autotune robot (which wasn't in the original Japanese so there is no excuse why that had to be a thing), Dandy's voice was underwhelming and did not even touch par with Junichi Suwabe's Dandy, Honey's was way too fucking annoying almost as annoying as the robot. Everyone either underacted the living shit out of their roles or overacted the living shit out their roles. English Dandy a shit.
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>>117835658
It's a dub

I condensced your answer for you and made it more factual and easy to understand, no thanks necessary. Also, advanced tip you can use this for any dub anyone tries to say is good and it will remain true, pretty nifty.
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Now I'll finally be able to watch Psycho Pass 2 (rather than read it).
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>>117835543
Although, you >>117835489 just happen to be the most cancerous one in this thread.

>>117835658
At least you explained why you thought it was bad.
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>>117835703
>It's a dub
Which should go without saying for you. Have you no ears?
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Thanks for the reminder that the Bittorrent generation of anime fans is the worst, /a/.
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>>117835621
Are you implying you're upset over them as well then? As well as every other post defending them in this thread? Just stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>117834831
>lso Renton and Eureka's skyfall scene from episode 26, in English they overacted the shit out of it and it was just so cheesy.

That scene was cheesy in Japanese, too. In fact, a good chunk of E7 is pretty fucking cheesy.
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>>117835764
Are you really this retarded? Don't try and use circle logic when its obviously not going to work out for you.
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>>117835745
No you see, it's a dub, therefor it is bad, for obvious reasons, answering his question much more easily.
>>117835740
>Calling dubs shit
>cancer

Alright
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>>117833813
>License shows aimed at an enthusiast audience.
>Dub them like you're putting them on Fox Kids.

What the fucking fuck? It's not like Cartoon Network is gonna show Girls Und Panzer so why the travesties?
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/a/non on why subs are better then dubs.

It doesn't matter if the media is Japanese, French or German, watching it in it's original language is always the preferred way. Especially in a language that uses honorifics. Honorifics are very significant in Japanese, simply changing the honorific used can signal a change in character relationships. Learning the difference between -kun, -chan, and -san doesn't take five minutes. Polite speech is the same, I don't fully understand much Japanese but I am able to distinguish when a character uses such speech, European languages also have formal speech, such as vous/tu in French, this would all be lost in translation.

Another thing to consider is the skill of the translator and re-writer. In dubs an effort is always made to fit what the character is saying to the mouth movements made, the best translation may not fit, synonyms can only go so far and eventually the original meaning will be lost.

If you enjoy watching dubs then good for you. However you may pick up more subtle details if you start watching subs or maybe I'm just being an autistic elitist.
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>>117835219
>Moblie Suit Gundam dub
>good

>Lain dub
>Anywhere other than terrible

>FMA dubs
>anywhere below good

I think dubs can be good, but a lot of this list is bullshit.
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>>117835837
>Are you really this retarded?
I don't know, are you? You just said that if you're in this thread, you're upset about dubs after I explicitly told you I wasn't.
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>>117835305
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>>117835876
No you are completely correct, don't forget though western voice actors are absolute dogshit compared to the originals.
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>>117835767
I didn't like E7 at all, actually. I just think the English one is way worse.
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Almost all of the anons defending dubs have problems with reading and can't keep up with subtitles.

When you're in that position, it's easier to rationalize all the ways dubs-are-just-fine-you-autists than it is to travel back in time and not flunk out of third grade.
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>>117835982
So fucking true, pretty obvious people that like dubs are retards with down syndrome.
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ShillTaku is frolicking over this
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>>117835219
>FMA not in the epic tier
Your opinion is fucking discarded
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>>117835998
>retards with down syndrome
Redundant with redundancy much?
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>>117835998
Hey, please don't insult people with down syndrome like that.
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>>117835998
>retards with down syndrome
So, you like dubs than?
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>>117835219
should put the tokyopop initial d dub next to one piece down there
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>>117835838
Nah man. I think most dubs are pretty subpar myself.
But you just blindly spew out hatred for every single dub out there, and you never explain why you hate them so much.
I at least try dubs whenever it's possible. I won't not listen to a dub just because it's a dub. Usually, the reason I don't watch something dubbed is because the dub isn't available or I tried the dub and didn't like it. Is trying dubs really something so incorrect for me to do?
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>>117836090
Oh shit. He got you. He got you good.
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>>117836025
I wouldn't put it in "epic", because Edward's voice gets annoying after a short while.
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>>117835982
Either that or they just don't like anime and watch it to seem cool in front of hipster friends. I can't tell you how many times I've seen posters explain that dubs are better because they can look away from the screen and do something else while the anime is running in the background. It's pathetic
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>there are people that don't watch a product, regardless of it being anime or not, in it's original language
I bet they are either american or spanish, fucks dub everything
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>>117836199
I know what you mean, it is seriously fucking pathetic how hard they try to fit in. God it makes me mad just thinking about it.
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>dub vs. sub argument
All of you should just go kill yourselves, this shit stopped being relevant the second LaserDiscs hit and gave you the dual audio option.

Hell, all "x vs y" arguments are fucking stupid because whether or not x is better than y changes on a case-by-case basis.
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This is probably the only legitimately enjoyable dub in existence, and only because the VAs didn't feel compelled to go toe-to-toe with professionals.

Instead, the translator decided the original script was stupid and rewrote it as a comedy. The VAs thought it was still stupid, and ended up ad-libbing everything towards the end. It ended up enjoyable in its own right, as opposed to another reminder that you actually go to school to become a seiyuu overseas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxJ4VWoeOzs
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>>117833945
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>>117836337
the portuguese dub team of DragonBall Z did similar, they kept the story, but added retarded accents and stupid jokes everywhere. It's glorious, the only dub I truly enjoy
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>>117836235
I am American, but I think it just feels more right to watch anime in Japanese, American cartoons in English, French cartoons and movies in French, etc.
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>>117836235
This argument doesn't work when you have /a/nons claiming Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust's dub is inferior.
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>>117836337
>as opposed to another reminder that you actually go to school to become a seiyuu overseas
Which reminds me, are there any seiyuus that are half Japanese/aren't of full Japanese descent? Or not Japanese at all but I highly doubt that.
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>>117836608
Sugita is actually Russian.
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>>117835260
>You niggers need to go watch You're Under Arrest! or Vampire Hunter D.
All of which are better subbed.
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Today I had the urge to rewatch fist of the north star, because it's been more than a decade. Found it on youtube, dubbed, on torrents, dubbed, fucking shit
>nose?
>chin!
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>>117833813

It's actually really weird. I remember when they scored the DBZ license and no one knew what to think of them. It was literally just Sean Schemmel and Christopher Sabat yelling at each other and even shittier changed music in the beginning. No one fucking liked them but it was finally New DBZ after years and years of the same ~50 episodes and the whole 6-18 year old demographic chomping at the bit for more. There was no way they couldn't print money.
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dubs are funny
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Is this thread a joke? Whats with all the hate for dubs? Are you guys all hating because its cool? Grow up. Real people don't have time to learn japanese or want to read when they are enjoying their anime. Funimating is doing a favor to all. You guys are all pathetic in whining about a free service.
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>>117835982 forgot to call >inb4
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>>117836828
I don't really care if other people enjoy dubs or not, but being such a dense fuck that reading subtitles is hard and distracting is disgusting and shows a distinct lack of intelligence
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>>117833945
Someone sure is salty
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>>117833844
>I'm back home, nyan.
This shit is gold, thank you kind anon.
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>>117836944
Y'know wham saayn.
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>>117832810
I wouldn't be shocked to see if the majority of these "broadcast dubs" go straight to Toonami

They saw the money, advertising, and ratings with Space Dandy and said "now we'll do it for more (and soon all that they license) anime currently airing in Japan"
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>>117834466
>if anything she love shounen
That's how fujoshi get their start.
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>>117836944
HTH. It was a great thread when they posted it.
https://archive.moe/a/thread/116346337/#q116354997
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>>117836828
>Real people don't want to read when they are enjoying their anime

Actually, knowing a good amount of basic japanese, contrary to this point, I found reading subtitles to be more enjoyable than watching RAWs, because most of the time in anime, characters are just standing there mouth flapping at 4 fps.

When you're reading subtitles, you don't really notice it, but watching it RAW shows you how cost-cutting anime production really is.
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>>117833538

That type of painful shit is said by more Japanese actresses than English ones though.
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I love how every argument depends on the idea that you'll only watch a show once.

>>117836692
Thanks for the chuckle anon.
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>>117837334
>rewatching shows
>not continuing to move along your backlog
>being this much of a filthy casual
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>state of /a/ today

How the mighty have fallen. Even a troll post is taken as serious now.
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What anime movies have good dubs?
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>>117834231
is the character supposed to be mentally challenged?
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>>117832810
That was a fun thread.

https://archive.moe/a/thread/116071614/#116071614
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>>117832810
>Waaah, dubs are baaad
Fuck off, far worse things out there. Like a sequel to Naruto.
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>>117838129
Redline
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I thought for a second that it might mean more shows get a translation, that an actual sub can be based off of.
Then, I immediately realised how stupid that is.

So many shows, never to be translated.
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>>117839115
Funi subs are worthless garbage anyway.
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>>117839115
>>117839188
actually this indirectly saves fansubs, because they're simply going to stop doing official subs(at least, while it's airing) and only do dubs. The only way to get subs is through fansub groups
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>mfw doing voice overs for Chinese cartoons makes you an instant celebrity.
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>>117832810
We're talking like DBZ right?
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>>117836099

INITIALIIIZE
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>>117835876
I think it depends more on the actors and the script in a anime dub. Ghibli movies have top notch dubs but that's because they hire actual actors instead of guys who record the background soldiers in Call of Duty or Halo.
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>>117833844
why is his head SO VERY TINY
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>>117839481
DBZ dub was great. DBZ KAi is ok, jap soundtrack is pretty lame.
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>>117839715
Ey baby, he big where it counts, nya what I mean?
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>>117838239
>>117834358
>>117834329
>>117834231
>>117834191
>>117834130
If I recall correctly, what basically happened with this game was that Sony wouldn't let them release it in the US without a dub, so basically they got their family members to throw that shit together and called it a day
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>>117835219
Move everything down three tiers and the list starts to make sense.
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>>117834490
Voices are weird. Back in highschool, I've had even very attractive girls have voices deeper than the teacher's. Like, age thing for voices don't bother me unless it's the obvious "50 year old smoker lady playing a 10 year old boy" cliche or something that rediculous. Thing is, you see the same thing with Japanese voice actors/actresses, but you just don't notice it because you don't understand the language.
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>>117840834
>because you don't understand the language
I think it's more like you've gotten used to the way they act in anime. Have you heard actual real life Japanese speak? It's nothing like that shit.
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Something I don't understand is how apparently everyone on /a/ apparently knows Japanese perfectly and has intense theatrical training, making them expects at judging voice actors, especially in aforementioned their second tongue. And yet, despite their perfect Japanese and ability to judge all performances in it, they need to watch the shows with subtitles for some reason.

In other wods, unless you actually you can speak Japanese fluently, you honestly can't really fucking compare voice cast at all without talking out your ass. Though, yes, this news does worry me because it's surely going to mean a lot more rushed jobs.
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>>117840932
>voices in one language have to sound exactly like generic Japanese anime girl voice no. 4 or I don't consider it believable despite acknowledgement that even that isn't beleiveable

I don't really understand the logic here other than "I don't watch dubs, thus I think they are all awful."
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>>117841027
you dont need to understand the lirycs of a song to tell if someone is tone deaf or no

similar goes to voice acting
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>>117834285

Actors would actually agree with you. The directors and even the way they record is shit compared to any other dubbing company.
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>>117837923

>watching and forgetting a thousand shows but never loving a single one
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>>117833813

>how did Funi seem to corner the market anyway

They are doing good in dubbing and home video. When it comes to online streaming they are getting absolutely buttfucked by Crunchyroll. They will be in a hard position in ~5 years when home video really starts to die.
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Where are they even getting the budget to do this, DBZ BD revenue?

Anyway, now they're acting their actors to dub a show on a more weekly basis instead of many episodes at once like usual. I know it's not week-to-week exactly as they have leeway with advance scripts, but it's not like they'll have the scripts for later episodes that far in advance, maybe a month at most, barring any unforeseen circumstances.
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>>117840932

The whole rhythm and annunciation in the way they speak in real life sucks, it's too close to the rest of the Asia. Anime speech is clean and understandable, something Chinese and Korean literally cannot copy.
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>>117833764
Sentai is just ADV renamed after re-organization. Geneon dubs were mostly done by Bang Zoom and Oceans. Early Oceans stuff was spotty in my opinion.
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I like English dubs. You don't find many bad ones anymore. Been that way for over a decade.
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