That fucking episode.
Will it go the Genei route?
I believe Madoka also fought to change the system anon.
Homura had hair flips which Togo doesn't have and tops alpha waves.
If only the purest of maidens will suffice for the sacrifice, it means anyone who is a hero is literally pure beyond pure in their world. This explains why none of them have been in a relationship before and why they're all almost perfect in personality - not because writer's bias but because the plot necessitates it.
The entire system functions off innocence and its sacrifice to treegod, which makes it even worse as the most morally whole people have to suffer for the rest (sinners) while still being incorruptible enough to laugh it over after exhausting their bodily functions to mankai ala Sonoko.
Just finished ep.
Yuna is LITERALLY BEST HUSBANDO
Fuck everyone else in this show. Not even Togo and her togos deserve Yuna.
>Fuu-Mami: Knows the rules of the game and such before fighting with the group.
>Karin-Kyouko: Came from out of town, to take over but ended up assisting them in the end.
>Yuki-Madoka: Wants to save people and be a hero/goddess.
>Itsuki-Sayaka: Both have dreams that they want to fight for singing/that guy.
I think Fuu and Karin are fine, but Yuki and Itsuki are just pushing it.
Also the Fuu and Karin type characters are everywhere, not just magical girl series. There is always that veteran group nanny type and the upstart newcomer who eventually end up joining the gang.
Here this is 100x times more accurate unlike your madoshit
He'd be /a/ if we could give magic powers to little girls.
We still don't know what tree almighty wants/needs though Sonoko's statements make it seem as if the expected sacrifice is tradition or a simple case of appliances (powers) requiring electricity (purity).
Fuu didn't know the rules of the game.
The other three are stereotypical as hell and it's fucking laughable to imply that Madoka created those archetypes. If you wanted to complain about anime just reusing the same characters over and over again maybe you'd have something, if that weren't actually prevalent across all media.
Tougou deserves every last bit of Yuuna!
That really hit hard, the team really know how to do suffering without resorting to shock deaths every episode.
Which is surprising considering Takahiro is responsible for AgK
Can you fags stop talking about Madoka?
Who the fuck is autistic enough to care about some character similarities?
>Fuck everyone else in this show. Not even Togo and her togos deserve Yuna
Kill yourself. Tougou deserves everything and more. She's the one who protected the world once already at the cost of her legs and her friends, remember?
I loved the lead up to this more than the homosexual body touching itself to be honest.
Actually seeing Yuna looking at Togo, seeing Togo's sad state, and then taking the time to work up her determination before finally hugging Togo and telling her she'll be the one who makes it all right was really touching.
What was the point, they can't die, unless they mean't the death of her voice.
When will she break?
98% correct, though Fuu has one too many eyes
>Fuu-Mami: Knows the rules of the game and such before fighting with the group.
Wrong, she doesn't know shit, her personality is different. The only thing she has in common is blonde hair and being their senpai
This is the closest one, but her personality and execution are completely different.
The other two are fucking retarded and I won't even bother replying to them.
But it's not like these characters are super original or something. They are basically half of the Love Live cast.
Best girl got even bester
This is where you find out who wears the pants in the relationship.
Fu is going to be the first to break right? She can't bear the guilt of letting Yuuna fight but at the same time she'll be too scared to act on these feelings like we saw in today's episode. She won't be able to keep the cool facade much longer.
>If she breaks, everyone lose.
People can stand up again after they fall. In fact I hope Yuuna breaks at least one before the end. She'll bounce back stronger than ever afterwards.
I'm still waiting on episode 4. I don't want to resort to using HS,but FFF sure are taking their time translating this series.
Spoiler from G's magazine.
The hero, Sonoko repeated Mankai and Sange more than 10 times and became unable to lead a normal life.
For that reason, as the trump card, she became the direct manager of Taisha.
In regard to Washio Sumi, her only sacrifices to Shinju are the function of her legs and several years of memories.
Since she still can lead a normal life, she will be returned to the front once the Vertices appear again.
Why didn't they find some other girls to take Sonoko's place once she started to lose limbs?
You don't send crippled soldiers to the frontline if there are are fresh meat on stand by. There were surely dozens of Karin-wannabes ready to fight, especially considering the Hero systtem wasn't even kept as a mysteyr back then.
>Since she still can lead a normal life, she will be returned to the front once the Vertices appear again.
Jesus fucking christ that's chilling
>The problem is that Yuuna is what is keeping the group together, if she breaks it will all immediately tumble down
I don't think so. They're not that weak. They just have some moments of weakness from time to time, like any normal human. They can take it.
I wonder what she meant by summoning them.
Does Sonoko actually have magic power now or what. If that's the case then Yuna could end up using mankai so many times that she loses all her body parts but retains her consciousness, acting as a supernatural force that ensures all future heroes are safe and.....actually never mind.
>>Togo is done if Yuna bites the dust.
Yeah, because she's the one who has suffered the most. Also, I think she'll toughen up before the ending. All of them will.
Anyway, all I'm saying is that It's great to have a Yuuna in the group, but I don't think they're dependant on her.
Karin is exactly who will stand up and fight when Yuuna's resolve finally falters.
Sonoko is a True Belever and thus is and was resigned to her fate.
Yuki Yuna is the only one who believes there must be another way if we look for it.
The rest of her group are going to have to chose between following their society and the rules or following Yuki Yuna to a new way.
tldr: Yuki Yuna is the Messiah
So it seems like the vertex just keep regenning. This is probably what bed-lady meant by retreat.
They cannot end them with their current methods. The little one probably regenned the quickest.
Well, I wonder how many body parts they're all going to lose by the end.
Added the Gemini twin.
But Jesus was gay.
Parts of Sonoko that still functions
Left eye, Fuu's left eye is fucked
Voice, Itsuki's voice is fucked
Memory, Tougou's memory is fucked
Torn between thinking she's given enough and thinking that she might be happier that way.
Will she be able to punch herself out of this shit?
>This is probably what bed-lady meant by retreat.
In the LN, with the equipment Taisha gave them, they were unable to seal the Vertexes. The most they could do was fend them away. The girls didn't even had fairies back then.
She can probably still feel taste and can certainly listen from at least one ear. Her legs seem totally gone, so it's not as if she's technically missing the "function of her legs" either. Fuck.
People in 2ch think that this story is based on Imperial Japan.
In WW2, they have also worshiped solders killed or injured as gods.
In addition to that, hero system reminds me kamikaze attack in which the solders are destined to be sacrificed.
Fuu, Itsuki, and Karen are all in a position to break once they learn the truth. Fuu feels guilty for getting everyone involved, Itsuki learns her dream is no more, and Karen feels guilty that she is the only one who hasn't gone Mankai (and quite possibly overcompensates in the next battle)
This is why they hired the composer for Nier and Drakengard 3.
>The obvious answer at this point seems to be Yuuna sacrifice ending
Personally, I would like an ending when they all work together instead of leaving everything to just one hero.
>Karen feels guilty that she is the only one who hasn't gone Mankai (and quite possibly overcompensates in the next battle)
I really feel this is gonna happen, almost 100%.
There were three scenes just in todays episode where she tried to stop the others from fighting, sure it didn't work but that means she will just try harder next time, especially after learning the truth.
I can't foresee a happy end for her. She's gonna lose at least one of her limbs, my bet is on both arms.
All Sonoko wanted was to see her precious love again.
Imagine the shock she felt when Togo arrived on the scene with Yuna. Imagine the pain that flooded Sonoko's heart when she realized Togo has moved on and found someone else, someone whose bond with Togo was strong enough that they'd both get summoned here.
And imagine the hollow feeling of defeat that resonated within Sonoko's entire body when her last ditch effort to revive Togo's memories proved fruitless and fell on deaf ear.
Naw, actually Tougou seemed to feel something. She didn't remember, but her actions were different, like there was some vague echo inside of her.
But wait, you're just one of those faggots who fap to suffering, so fuck you.
That sad laugh after Tougou says she doesn't know her is crushing.
>and fell on deaf ear
that's not cool man
I hate it, her repeatedly laughing hurt more than any crying could
If Togo was just dumb as a rock, it might made it easier for Sonoko. But Togo obviously felt that there was something there and everyone saw that.
You can't have despair without having hope first. The fact that there is a lingering possibility of Togo regaining her memories is what will truly test Sonoko's resolve to keep the past to herself.
>How about country-wide devotion to a god/emperor entity
This can be a critic/reference to a lot of things to be honest.
>or the strong rejection of everything foreign
So far we have only seen them rejecting the Vertex, you can hardly count that as everything
The fact that the prequel was in LN format probably made it a little less impactful than it could have been given how unaccessible it was for most people here, even with the translation and tidbits posted.
By performing a Shikoku, nationwide physical examination, many persons with high aptitude for being a hero were detected
After that, the following plans were decided
Washio Sumi is to be transfered and stationed to the place where the girl who has the highest aptitude in the whole nation lives.
Appropriately, Inubozaki Fuu who possesses a high aptitude will also be sent there as Taisha's envoy.
Furthermore, the terminal that Minowa Gin used will be recycled.
A person who is fit for this terminal will be sent as powerful reinforcement.
I dunno, it's hitting me pretty fucking hard over here.
Tougou Mimiori is her original name apparently.
So Karin is using Gin's equipment, but since Karin has a smaller cock than Gin, she got small swords while Gin had fucking cleavers.
Also I guess Yuna is the one with the highest powerlevel, unless it's plot twist Itsuki.
>Many gifts came from Taisha. It seems my families power within Taisha increased as well. At first, I was surprised at this treatment. But after investigating it, it was simple to understand. All generations treated their human sacrifices with kindness.
>Appropriately, Inubozaki Fuu who possesses a high aptitude will also be sent there as Taisha's envoy.
Wait, if that's true then Fuu could have guessed that it will be her hero club that is gonna be the one who has to fight the Vertex. I mean, if the Taisha even personally tells her to move to Kanonji and create the hero club there and all.
I thought that Fuu already lived in Kanonji in the first place and was just told something along the lines of "pick those 3 girls from your school and form a club with them, just like hundreds of other girls all over the country did".
I think the better question would be is it NTR if it's unintentional?
Neither Togo or Yuna knew about Sonoko at all. Yuna seems honest enough that she'd back off if she knew Togo's togos were promised to another.
I'm really not sure about that line.
Since they use が and not を after Taisha so maybe you're right. However, in some case, が and を are interchangeable, and I'm not sure you can use the word 管理する as "oversee" a person.
She's obviously missing her legs.
She claims that all of her injuries were due to mankai but I dunno, the bandages make it look like she got horribly burned at some point. Maybe when the bridge got bent up like a pretzel.
It's a tree. Why don't they just cut it down.
Final episode will be flash forward dozens of years. Yuna and Togo sitting by the fireplace, enjoy Christmas together with their science baby and the final shot of the series is the fireplace, pieces of Shinju-sama being used as mere firewood.
It all fits so perfectly.
Does Sonoko have 11 faeries.
Which is confirmed. Being a hero yields one fairy or Manki yields one fairy.
It's the first, right? Because you can't Manki without being a hero in the first place.
But judging by the setting the Taisha already have their backs to the wall. Adults can't use the power, only a single island of Japan is alive, anything happens and humanity is *fucked*. They're gonna have to be ruthless to make sure humans can survive.
She also has an arm (though it didn't seem like she could use it at all), her hair, hearing, speech and who knows what else.
Come to think of it, I wonder how it would have turned out if she was actually still fighting.
She's barely recognizable as human now.
Oh god that hurt to type
I mean its pretty obvious Yuki Yuna will find a way to change the system but still doesn't take away the fact how sad this episode was.
Surely it only can be healing after this heart wrenching episode.
While the sight of someone mutilated and having lost appendages is compelling fodder to show what's at stake, ranging from stuff like Johnny Got His Gun to Forrest Gump, this honestly just seemed gratuitous and distasteful, and in a season with stuff like Akame ga Kill and Cross Ange I can't use those words lightly.
Oh look, it's that retarded yurifag from the other thread who tries to parrot everything you say back at you.
No, implying the characters are degenerates is shitposting.
And stay there, faggot. Not because you like yuri, but because it's full of other retards like you.
She connected the pieces and apologized for not being able to remember. She'll never get the memories back.
I wonder why her parents changed her name though.
Death cards do not mean death
But has it tried to find another way anon?
And I also am not convinced that there is not a new human civilization that has sprouted outside the barrier. I still think that the vertexs are bots from humanity on the outside trying to just drop the barrier and reunite Shikoku with the rest of Japan.
It has been discussed before here and you know it. If it comes to it, and there's no other way to solve it, that will be the solution, you like it or not. The characters are what they portray in the show, and if they themselves decide their fate, no matter how much you post, you can't stop it.
Someone sure is mad they got proven wrong.
Not really, I don't think you're mad, just a depraved retard who has to call everyone who says things they don't like mad.
At least you know you're a degenerate, though.
>Yuuna promises Togou she'll find a way
>Final battle is Yuuna facing off against Shinju-sama alone and ascending to "godhood" like Sonoko or just straight up becoming Madokami and fixing everyone's problems
>Yuuki Yuuna was a Hero
>She'll never get the memories back.
If the ED is anything to go by, she will either get it back or end up losing her memories again.
I have already known,
that this moment will end someday.
It was so very important, so very important
yet I had turned my eyes away.
>The fleeting time
>passes by in the blink of an eye.
>Is this really what happened?
>Holding up those fragments under the setting sun,
>I try to make sure of those times.
>I can't forget, I have to remember.
I can imagine it, Togo is OP as fuck and had two disabilities before the series started. Her transformation removes the downside of her immobility.
Sonoko might be some ball of floating divine nuclear option at this point.
That is what I'm thinking too, either they will all go down together or they will all hold it together but I don't see an individual sacrifice being rewarded in a series which focus so much on the group.
>anyone who likes two people must have a threesome
No, normal people don't think with their dick and about what would be the best for a third party to fap to.
She'd end up with the person she likes more.
I came for suffering, but now I'm not sure I want that anymore
>The Australian shitposting brigade woke up
>Yuuki Yuuna was a Hero
The title doesn't mean much, really. The LN is titled "Washio Sumi is a hero" but from the spoiler of last chapter, Sonoko ended up sacrificing more than her.
Yuna at least is a self-aware pink.
I just think this is an incredibly clumsy way of storytelling. It didn’t have any effect on me, it was just some infodump about stuff we already knew anyway due to the LN, and without LN knowledge the scene is even worse since you can’t relate at all to her.
She will be a degenerate if she tries to fuck both of them. By definition. It will also mean her feelings and cheap and she's not willing to detected all of her person to a single other person.
>"gets caught acting stupid"
More like amusing myself at the sight of you grasping for straws like this discussion is some sort of debate.
These threads sure are for deep and engaging dialogue, you can go back tog your hugbox about purity.
The end: Yuuki Yuuna will defeat all the enemies so that no new girls ever get to experience this again. She'll become completely crippled forever and will not be able to die.
There you go guys, you can go home.
It would address your second complaint
>and without LN knowledge the scene is even worse since you can’t relate at all to her.
So, going by your words, yes, it would make it better as you would have the full necessary knowledge.
Why are you even mad about threesome ending anyway.
It's not even gonna happen since Sonoko's a vegetable and can do nothing but hopelessly watch Yuna and Togo live their lives.
This image has never been more fitting.
I wanted to think that before but now I'm not sure there's enough left. They've yet to explain the Shinju-sama and the Vertex in detail but after those there's...what? Just the question of how they're going to get out of this, which they can probably answer sufficiently in the next few episodes. I want there to be a second season because I enjoy the show but I don't think it's going to happen.
>what made her so focused on sacrificing herself for others?
Yuuna is just a helpful girl in general who wants to see her friends happy. She just like Tougou enough to consider sacrifice herself for her.
Are you expecting a happy ending anon?
Why do you think it matters if agree or not? This an objective truth about the definition of words.
Yeah, pretty much. They brow otaku pandering for pathetic wish fulfillment.
Still not mad, and it's because it means the characters are degenerates. That's why it's wrong.
Should anything be inferred from the fact that Yuki Yuna knows Mimori's true name and Sonoko didn't?
Does Yuki know the true girl and Sonoko know only the outward appearance?
Only if you define degeneracy as "anything that falls outside my own personal moral code."
All manner of people, cultures, and religions have had very different sets of values throughout history; who are you to determine what is or isn't degenerate? Everyone should be free to live their life how they want, so long as they're not harming others by doing so.
There's nothing wrong with a polyamorous relationship if all involved parties understand and consent to it. You might not like it, but that doesn't mean no one else can, either.
The difference is, Homura was the only great character there.
Here I care about EVERYBODY. I actually saw the OP before watching today's episode and thought it's Fu. Almost got a heart attack. I wouldn't feel like that if same thing happened to Madoka, Sayaka Mami or Kyouko.
And also, your character comparison is totally wrong
although it's not impossible that Yuna and Togo will become "gods" too Please no ;_;
Can't you fuckers go back to /pol/ or whenever with all your degeneracy talk?
Jesus fuck. Why can't we have a decent Yuki Yuna thread were we only talk about fucking Yuki Yuna.
Again, get your head out of your ass, and realize that whether you agree or not is irrelevant. You are objectivity wrong.
No, it's wrong because of the definitions of the words. You only see it as me saying "no ur wrong" because you've deluded yourself so far.
I wish it were only Yuki Yuna threads, but this has become pretty much standard here.
I can't see Fuu letting Itsuki fight anymore after she learns the truth.
Clearly you can't read, what do you base your objectivity on?
The definition of polygamy?
It's relevancy or irrelevancy during mankinds brief existence?
Or simply looking at modern day sociology?
If you can't even give out the basis of your "objectively this is degenerate because I say so", you might as well go back to /pol/ and claim dropping nukes on Moonland wasn't evil but necessary.
No, it's defined as degeneracy because it's a casual and lose sexuality. There is no true feelings between the people because they are split between three people. You can't dedicate your whole person to a single other person if you are splitting it between two people. Because by definition you can't have two wholes. So because they're splitting their feelings that makes them cheap, thus casual, thus degenerate.
>so long as they're not harming others by doing so.
>if all involved parties understand and consent to it
So everything but guro is cool. Okay.
No, you're an idiot. It's still degenerate even if they consent.
So, basically, this one cripple Mankai'd a lot, lost some parts of her body and became some kind of god / protegee of Taisha?
The fact that they would have been willing to hurt them had Sonoko not called them off is pretty fucking ominous.
No, you're right I can't. But I can tell the people who want them to be their scum bags.
Because read all the other posts that have already explained why.
>telling retards to not insult the characters makes you a SJW
Well now you're at least basing your claim on something, which is "makes X whole".
But that is quite naive and narrow way to view a human being.
Just because, say a young man devotes her feelings to a girl but ends up breaking up with her in X years would make him shallow for his fickleness of feelings, thus degenerate?
>Since she still can lead a normal life, she will be returned to the front once the Vertices appear again.
This shit fucking sucks.
>still discussing and trolling about polygamy
We already saw the difference between Sonoko and Yuna today.
Sonoko sits there and cries. While Yuna promises Togo she'll fix everything.
It's pretty fucking obvious who will win the Togo in the end.
Their only other real option is sealing, which comes with a built in time limit and has the risk of dealing damage to the real world. It's worked reasonably well so far but there's always the risk that it won't at some point and they'll be left with no choice but to mankai.
That anon doesn't care about the characters, everytime someone talks about polygamy he starts discussing about it, regardless of the show. It's pretty easy to spot when he's the only one who uses the word degenerate
Unacceptable. Sonoko mankai'd ten fucking times to protect Sumi. She's literally given almost everything she has.
>Unacceptable. Sonoko mankai'd ten fucking times to protect Sumi. She's literally given almost everything she has.
Except a future. And that is what Yuki Yuna is trying to protect.
I guess we're done. Enjoy being a faggot.
No, do you read as badly as you quote or did you not read past that at all? It degenerate because it's cheap feelings. Stop being retarded.
>everything is an opinion
This is what actualy makes you like the tumblr SJW you claim to hate.
Next you're going to claim that people drawing doujins are robbing the characters of their free will and that they aren't objects to be sexualized or portrayed in any other "unseemingly" ways.
I have a mathematical reason why it's degenerate. It's not subjective, stop trying to godwin this.
Like I said, I guess we're done, enjoy being faggot and insulting the characters.
She cried because she saw Washio again, you autistic fuck.
Other then that, yes, she seems pretty resigned, but also pretty mentally stable and strong at the same time. And what Yuna did at that time seemed more like a desperate attempt to cheer things up, not a real resolve.
So, fuck you.
Shitposter, please go.
Not freedom, but they insulting them by doing so.
No, look of the definition of casual sex and degenerate, put two and two together after that.
I would like to see your mathematical model and reason/calculus if you actually can present it, it might even be interesting.
But I doubt you can, you're just delusional near religious nutjob preaching about degenerancy on 4chan of all places.
Just gonna quote myself.
>No, it's defined as degeneracy because it's a casual and lose sexuality. There is no true feelings between the people because they are split between three people. You can't dedicate your whole person to a single other person if you are splitting it between two people. Because by definition you can't have two wholes. So because they're splitting their feelings that makes them cheap, thus casual, thus degenerate.
It's not even hard math, either. It's just wholes and fractions.
Because nothing has indicated as such yet. So far Yuuna at the very least has been shown to very, very faithful to Tougou. Thus not someone who would slut around in a threesome.
Really, that's your hard objective math calculus? ½ + ½ = 1 and 1 is holy?
Man, I was actually expecting something more complex here, I feel swindled.
I want my money back you snake-oil peddler.
They are still low-level Heroes that can be replaced. The Taisha appears to only care for those girls who have done some serious level-up.
All this polyamory debating is offtopic and against /a/ rules. The mods don't care.
....What does she do all day? No friends, no family, no tv, can't play with anything, can't read..
Nothing wrong with motherly love.
Sleeps, mostly. She did that a lot before too.
More like there were only two of them fighting all 12 vertex at once, and judging from Tougou's much smaller number of mankais she probably got knocked out early, leaving Sonoko to fight alone. It's actually incredible.
Your discussion is never on topic because you bring dictionary definitions of feelings instead of feelings of the characters in the actual show, that's why your posts are meaningless.
I mean all of them are faithful for each other respectively, not just Yuuna. Memory can be fixed.
Not really, I'm amazed actually that people so simple and narrowminded like you can actually continue to live on from day to day.
At least I can sleep with a smile on my face now so I'll call it night for now and thank you.
You know how in most NTR stories, the guy ends up losing his love but at least he's still in good physical health, has a job and can move on to make a better life for himself if he's just mentally a little tougher?
Sonoko has none of those.
Except they weren't letting her see Togo and when she finally said fuck it and brought her there the fuckers from Taisha were gonna beat up Yuna and Togo and only did not because Sonoko told them to back the fuck off.