No one can do horror anymore, ever since horror became a genre, and I'm not talking about petty jump scares. True horror is impossible to do because we're all way to desensitized to it.
As a horror fan, our only salvation is Oculus/VR. Even then though we'll eventually distance ourselves from it.
Ghost Hound did well for around half the series. Then turned to shonenshit special power show for kids.
Perfext blue did well for psycho horror, but noone remembers it existed nowdays.
Kids focus on Higurashi or OP's series - its accesible, easy to watch and gory in a C-class movie way.
I think that anime cant do well in horror due to infantile watcher base. The shows that tend to go into "horror" focus on gorefests for some teenage boys instead of complex stuff that the genere sometimes delivers when it comes to 3dpd movies.
I fail to see a series that would not turn to utter shit after a good start, its just impossible to do good and fulfill watcherbase expectations at the same time.
TRUE horror is only extremely rarely pulled off, since we're mostly immune to shock value as a society at this point. There aren't really any more barriers to be broken, so most just resort to jump scares, gross-out shit, or just plain not taking themselves seriously.
Real horror is best achieved when there's a legitimate sense of immersion and autonomy in progressing through the story, which is honestly a bit easier to achieve with certain video games or novels.
Obviously it's not, I can understand that it made you laugh, though. I said "if you can into older movies" exactly because of that. If you are not somewhat experienced with story telling and special effects in older films some scenes might appear to be strange or comedical.
Anime specializes in second-hand anxiety, which is worse than horror.
Has some horror scenes which are ok
>Not horror at all
Can't tell, have dropped it after 3 episodes, because it seemed like shit.
A good movie with some good horror elements, yes.
It's well made but not really horror, the main goal of a scene is very rarely to scare the audience
>episode one of Another
Character designs and art styles are so important. I've yet to see truly horrific ones that aren't silly as well. Manga conveys horror better but I'm not sure whether that says much on the whole.
>fuck this thing
>fuck that alien creature jump scare
But isn't OP arguing that even though an anime categorizes itself as horror, it can't do it effectively? A lot of horror films that do contain tits and ass aren't very good either.
This series isn't a horror but it is a Gothic-horror and it is still one of my personal favorites.
>wow, that's not too bad
>oh shit, I'm actually feeling tension
>LOL NOPE MECHA FIRING RETARDED GUNS AT MONSTERS
>LET ME DISMOUNT AND YELL AT THIS KID
Yup, it's just impossible for the japs.
Lain was a fun show with nice art, good music, and computers. It really brought me to back in the day with computers; all that configuration, shit not working, noise everywhere, and shit being outdated in months.
I only watched SSY for the world-building and edgy shit. I thought it was more political than anything else.
Jigoku Shoujo was more boring than Kyuuketsuhime Miyu. I didn't know such a thing was possible.
Perfect Blue was fun but I wasn't in any way scared.
Boogiepop Phantom had me laughing all the way through.
Well, in contrast to the anime which felt like a grindhouse comedy, the Higarashi VN was actually fucking spooky.
Ghost Hunt is a pretty good horror. One of the story really scared me and the rest is pretty interessing
>This fucking guy
That episode still freaks me out.
Mononoke had some good moments.
Perfect Blue did a good job, but as a thriller first and foremost.
Generally, true horror can't be pulled of in anime because of its episodic format. As >>117443217 pointed out, it needs buildup and immersion, which can be done in anime, but not as a genre, rather single moments of chills down the spine. One that comes to mind would be when
K kills himself inin Kokoro.
They just don't try hard enough. It's hard to say that it's an inherent fault in the medium. There are plenty of freaky manga and those are also drawn pictures, which don't even have the advantage of motion and sound.
Know what's hardly ever scared me? Books.
By the way, do you guys have any manga that has nightmares-like faces, just like the Higurashi ?
Damn Rena and Takano were fucking scary.
>nothing scares me, guys!
Good shit but I didn't feel spooked...
>pic related spooked me the most despite being a comedy
i think in order for an anime to be successfully scary it has to not market itself as primarily horror. it has to be weird and unexpected for the fictional universe you are immersed in. Thats why enemies in old games that werent supposed to be scary often were. The Eel from mario wouldnt be creepy if it was in a horror game.
Feels like highschool again !
God I regret not saving names from the /x/ horror movie thread a while ago.
Jacob's Ladder is also really good. Not a full fledged horror movie but damn...
Also, is the Jigoku Shoujo anime the least bit scary ?
Not exactly anime, but Ever17 and Remember11 had some good moments of existential horror. Saya no Uta is another obvious choice. And Muv-Luv had its moments. I think the VN medium is very suited to horror stuff. It might be because it requires direct interaction from the person playing and usually assumes a first person perspective.
Like I said; just didn't have my guard up when it happened. He was in a grocery store, really didn't seem like the opportune time for a jump scare--obviously I stand corrected.
I liked the two horror episodes of cowboy bebop, toys in the attic and angry autist man.
Perfect Blue was good as well.
What is the point of horror anyways? Why would you want to watch something that will just give you shitty nightmares for the rest of your life.
The anime is shit, but the Chaos;Head VN has an amazing suspenseful atmosphere.
Let me introduce you to a friend of mine.
about 10 years ago i showed a scene from Higurashi to my little sister that had the characters acting spooky/violent (can't remember the exact scene)
she ran out of the room crying and told mom
20 episode format, hacks can't write horror.
Lain is probably the closest thing to a "horror" anime there is.
Before he became a normalfaggot did moot ever do anything creative on Halloween? He could have had threads occasionally fuck up and have to refresh then have images that take up the entire screen flash in and out with distorted radio sounds. Gore would be too predictable. More subtle things like a loli with blank black eyes peeking in a door.
Someone would probably just fap, though,
It usually fails to make things creepy. To delve into the uncanny valley from the right side instead from the left.
Psychological horror on the other hand can work. But writers often fail to realize the potential, doing very creepy things but give it all a lighthearted atmosphere that doesn't make you dwell on it.
Consider the following scenario
>Why yes, our spaceships are indeed powered by the brains of little girls. Harvested from orphanages.
What a lighthearted show will do:
>The girls have hologram avatars and are reasonably happy with their role
What a show going for drama will do:
>Show some totally-not-space-nazi troops abducting them and stuffing them into mad scientist vats, focusing the viewer's hatred on the bad guys instead of considering just how disturbing it is for the victims
What they should do:
>Everyone acts as if this were perfectly normal. The camera just lingers for a moment to show a technician pat an anonymous tank while he performs maintenance. "as good as new"
I disagree. I just think people get too hung up on monsters and ghasts and ghouls and other unscary halloween bs. Horror isn't about sight so much as anticipation and implication. Anime has an especially hard time with this since you cant really sell a horror that you cant see, or at least not see often. Also good characterization helps, but its rare for anime (or pretty much anything else) to avoid common cliches and tropes that make any tension comical and "serves you right".
I said "closest thing to a horror anime", not "horror anime".
Lain gets one thing right, that virtually every last horror film gets wrong.
Atmosphere, everything in horror rides on that.
laughter is a coping mechanism for fear