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CENTER THE TEXT IN THE BUBBLES

OH DEAR FUCKING GOD CENTER THE GOD DAMN TEXT

>>114900985
Shit nigger what are you doing?

>>114900985
Jesus Christ this reminds me of when I started typesetting for literally the first time.

>>114902082
Even I was better than that my first time. I still haven't improved though.

>>114902082
That's literally what it is.
It's my first time doing this, if you can give me tips instead of saying how bad it is I'd be happy.

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>>114900985

Damn son you gotta step it up

>>114902752
There are millions of tutorials, just pick one

Probably going to scan something.

>>114902857
I was using this one but I obviously didn't do a good job.
http://www.insidescanlation.com/etc/How-to-edit-manga-with-Photoshop/rawr/editguide/2.html#1

>>114902925
Too much text, not enough visuals and actually explanations. look for a more recent one

>>114903087
I feel like shit now knowing I released something so bad. At least it's a dead series so nobody has much room to complain. Do you have any guide you like in particular? If not I'll just keep searching around.

>>114903141
It's not that big a deal, gotta start somewhere.

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Lately I've been looking for good moan fonts.

>>114902752
Get a native English speaker to write your scripts, for one.

>>114904463
Native English speaker here. What's wrong with that? We're talking about the OP post right?

>>114904463
Eh he's native but we need an editor to make it sound more natural

>>114904569
"As expected, it's fun with a lot of people" is not something people say in a conversational context.

It is, in fact, not something something that anybody says ever.

>>114904703
As a translator, I've always preferred more literal translations to those that take more liberties to make them sound "more natural." The problem I have with them is that you often end up changing things more than you should and using words that don't stay true to the original. There is nothing wrong with that sentence in any sort of objective way. It's perfectly fine to print in a newspaper or anywhere else for that matter.

>>114904703
We've tried to stray away from adding things that aren't actually said in translation. I'm sure it could sound more natural but we weren't sure on how to make it sound more natural.

>>114904900
"It's definitely a lot more fun eating with everyone!"

>>114903798
There's always MouthBreather.

>>114904962
Or just:
>As expected, the more the merrier.
You know, the actual English proverb?
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/the_more_the_merrier
If you can't pick up shit like this, you are a failure as a translator.

>>114905068
I'm not the translator, just providing a suggestion.

>>114904846
As a translator, I say that any translator worth his salt knows it's not a trade-off between literalosity and naturalness. If you are translating natural, conversational Japanese to anything but natural, conversational English, you are not doing your job.

l-lwed

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>>114905806

typo AND I forgot the picture. Great job.

>>114900985
>>114905876
>dark theme

plebs

>>114904962
Yeah that sounds a lot better.

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I just learned how to crop images, can I enter a scanlation group now?

>>114905909
It's night and I don't want my eyes to burn after working for a long time.

I was working on a tank by my favorite artist. 2 chapters in, but I haven't touched it in 6 months. I-I'll get to it eventually, right?

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>>114903798
>old/fat man
>netorare

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I am the master of photoshop

Yet nobody ever asked me to scanlate or do shit

>>114906304
That's because you are a lazy shit and haven't even attempted to apply to a group.

You also fucked up in a few places.

>>114903960
I've checked the catalog yesterday and today and haven't seen one.

>>114905999
Anyone can join a scanlation group and become a cleaner/typesetter if they enjoy doing demeaning, tedious, and thankless unskilled labor for free.

>>114906304

>the shitty paper texture is intentional, guys!

>>114906304

You completely erased the skin fragments, how lazy.

>>114906304
>removing hexagons that are obscured by text
a real master of photoshop would have used his x-ray vision to fix that instead of removing it.

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>>114906304
I love playing these "find the differences" games

Let's say I get 600dpi scans of color pages

How the fuck do I go about cleaning it? And I'm not even talking about removing text, I just mean making it not look dotty.

>>114906669
Google descreening.

>>114906669
Denoise and surface blur.

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>>114906378
>>114906475
>>114906548
>>114906565
>>114906646

Upscaled too

>>114906669

There are always going to be dots at high resolutions, that's how printers work. They disappear when you downscale.

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>>114900985
It not friday yet,but whatever.
Not working on anything...yet. waiting for script now.

If you have too much time,go apply for those request. We need your help.
tinyurl com ScanlationBulletin

Aslo,ebj have another kadokawa sales again,go buy those kandai or any title under it if you like:
https://www.ebookjapan.jp/ebj/special/special_kadowan.asp

>>114910294
Oh shit, Guyver is still ongoing?

As of February 2013, Guyver Advocacy implemented a change in their method of operations. Previously the group had operated on faith that people would buy the manga or related products, however due to circumstances, this had to change. It became ever more apparent that Manga Aggregation sites were taking the produced work and hosting it on their own servers to profit from it via their ad revenues. This was completely counter to the entire point of the Guyver Advocacy mission so much discussion ensued. The result of this discussion was the Pre-order system.
>The Guyver Advocacy group no longer Releases Translations or Scanlations to the public. Instead, the group take pre-orders of the next volume, the volume which currently released chapters will be contained in. The people who pre-order this next volume will be given individualised Scanlations of the chapters. To clarify, all chapter which are currently being released in monthly Shonen Ace, will make up the next volume to be released. By pre-ordering the next volume, the person will essentially gain the right to read those chapters. The Scanlations that are provided are tracked via various methods, in such a way that any person who leaks this chapter to the public, i.e. people who aren't paying for it, will be caught out and blacklisted. The obvious aim is of course to make sure the series creator gets what he deserves and also increase the odds of more Guyver productions. This is completely in line with the Mission of Guyver Advocacy.
What the fuck.

>>114906783
Doesn't fix anything.

>>114910680
Best laugh I've had all day. The series isn't even worth it, is it.

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>>114903141
You could all way start with this,and don't follow everything on it.

>>114911433
Despite being totally retarded, I can actually see this working with a small dedicated fanbase. Whether such fanbase exist or not is the question, though.

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>>114910294
>more HandRed
This makes me so happy.

>>114911583
http://www.redhawkscans.com/showthread.php?3308-Typesetting-introduction
Red Hawk has a pretty good beginner's guide. OP, if you're still here, the best way to typeset is to keep your fonts consistent and readable, and follow the original Japanese typesetting as a guide. Ideally you want to try to get your typesetting to match as closely to the original as you can, within reason. Here's an example with the original text visible.

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Not really doing it for some group, but I tried to fill the gap in the middle of this cover (was obviously split before).
The text at the left is too much hassle.

Is there some good redrawing tutorial?
Google only gives some basic or really old ones.

>>114912278
How much you filtered it? Hair looks like utter shit.

>>114912386
I did nothing to the cover itself, just copy/paste, minor lines and clone stamp to fill the void at the middle.

The panda is down for me at least, the original front and back cover were in this file:

(C86) [Shinjuku Koma Gekijou (Komagata)] Holdup Problem Rising (Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei) [English] {doujin-moe.us}

>>114912441
Only ex is down right now.

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/746096/2bb7c91a19/

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>>114912501
Awesome, didn't check that.

This was the part I did, by the way.

>>114912602
Right after I posted that I was able to get into Ex as well, although right before I got a 503, so it might be intermittent or just perfect timing top make me look like a shit.

Fucking hell. Let's try this again.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UEnyEWk9DZlnYiehPHlGeZ7a04wkRADCyXtvI1tJisY/edit?pli=1#gid=0

>>114912386
except it's really not

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>>114912746

I have you now, anonymous person.

>>114911871
God damn that tutorial.

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How do you go about cleaning something like this? Can I just topaz clean it?

>>114912985
What's about it?

>>114913060
Very detailed

>>114913058
Just level it and clean up the page bleed.

>>114911871
>>114911583
Thanks for these. Hopefully next time I post something of mine it's less shit.

>>114913058
You talking about the image coming through from the other side? I still have no idea how to deal with that easily. I've tried all sorts of blending methods using the other side of the page and nothing really works. You just have to do it manually.

Ideally you just get better scans. You can put something behind it like a piece of card stock paper or something to prevent that.

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>>114911871
>You should avoid hyphens if possible even if it means that the shape will look a little less good but don't try to do it at any cost
That's stupid.

>>114913158
Welcome to working at Kirei Cake.

>>114913058
some simple leveling will help a lot

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>>114913104
>>114913151
I should have mentioned that I'm a total noob. Leveling is like this, right? And what how do I fix the bleeding?

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>>114910294
Probably a few days out.

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>>114913158
You can't honestly tell me you like the left more than the right.

>>114913158
>That's stupid.
The most important thing is that text is clearly and easily readable. Sometimes that means you have to use a hyphen, but they should be avoided as much as possible as long as it isn't excessively ruining the silhouette of the text grouping.

>>114913251
Thanks! I guess i should start working too.

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>>114913268
The formatting on the left is fucking stupid, of course I'm going to choose the right bubble since they actually utilized the space of the bubble in a non fucking stupid way.

Here's a cherry picked counter example that's far too extreme to mean anything.

First bubble
>Ah, let me explain. I'm Yato, an apprentice theologist. I've been on a journey to train myself, and for that purpose, I'm trying to heal my eyes. I heard rumors that the ruins in this cave house a lake filled with magic, and that's why I'm here...

>>114913434
I know this manga. What was the name again?

>>114913469
Schizanthus

>>114913268
Left one is done intentionally bad, and I'd use smaller font size for right one. However, treating hyphens as some boogeyman is retarded. Shape does matter too, you know.

>>114913268
The phrasing bothers me more than the typesetting, honestly, but the right one is kinda wide for my taste.

>>114913241
blur it first. then level so you won't overlevel
then select the remain greys with color range.

>>114913545
It's part of a bigger sentence, I believe.

>>114913434
It's a general guide for general situations. In general, you want to try to avoid hyphens as much as possible. Sometimes you have no choice, such as when you have a particularly long word, e.g. 8+ letters long, and not a lot of space to fit it in. It's a general rule of thumb.

If you look at >>114911871 as an example, the third bubble has the "dar~ling~♪" hyphenated because the bubble is predominately vertically oriented. Not only is it a taller, narrower bubble, but Miia's ear intrudes on the bubble, further limiting horizontal real estate. If darling wasn't split in two lines, the entire shape of the text would have to be wider than there's space in the bubble that would allow for a uniform shape, or you'd have everything narrow and then the "dar~ling~♪" wide, which also looks like shit and breaks up the eye's flow during reading.

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>>114913713
Or, you can actually utilize the space of the bubble because no matter how much you fuck up the typesetting for the third bubble, the font is still going to be too small for the bubble. Consolidating the dar~ / ling~♪ lines into a single line would be fine, granted the rest of the lining of the bubble was changed to reflect the wider width, but in no way would it ruin the shape of the text within the bubble. I'm on / a date / with my / dar~ling~♪ breaks the line into even enough lines to be passable for the shape of the bubble.

So sure, while avoiding hyphenations works fine and dandy, it doesn't work well as a general rule. You forfeit the ability to do anything size related when you focus on avoiding hyphens, which has the potential to detract from the source material. Take for instance in this less contrived example. First large bubble reads something along the lines of
>Tanikaze! / Respond!!
Which if you try to fit in the bubble at a reasonable size granted the urgency of the text, does not fit.

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>>114913618
I tried.

>>114900985
If you released with that typesetting, I'd murder you.

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>>114912278
Just did it in few mins, it must be my third time to redraw a such pic.
I mainly used gaussian blur, surface blur, pencil, clone stamp.

I've got things that I've translated and should be typesetting, but I really don't want to do it.

>>114914157
I know a guy who advocates expanding bubbles. I admit I've done it myself a couple times.

>>114914190
looks good nao

>>114914268
what series is it?

>>114914157
Yes, these are examples of instances where you'd need to use a hyphen. Every bubble there is tall and narrow, and the shape of the text groups are likewise tall and narrow. The point is that you use a hyphen when you HAVE to, but try to avoid them as best you can otherwise. The point isn't to never use a hyphen under any circumstance.

The dar~ling~♪ doesn't work because it is too wide for the rest of the line groups in that bubble. Regrouping them to better match the length of the da r~ling~♪ line makes the text group as a whole too wide for the bubble. Leaving the groups as is but putting dar~ling~♪ unbroken creates too much of a visual disconnect and interrupts the flow of the eye when reading.

guys what font looks good for this character ~

>>114914625
I don't remember if it's Augie or Akbar, but it's one of those two. I think, maybe.

>just getting into this scene
>super anal about everything
>rotate, crop and redraw everything pixel perfect

>now
>can't be fucked doing any of those
>as long as it isn't diagonal, don't bother rotating
>any gutter shadow or other time sapping shit, just crop it out
>for text outside of speech bubbles, up the stroke until it's a nice big fat blob of white

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Any kind soul ready to scanlate a /ss/? Pic related's serialization?
Jcafe raws: http://www.jcafe24.net/index.php?topic=42479.0

Dump of the translated oneshot >>114883053
OP fucked up in the subject so the thread was autosaging yesterday. I would probably dump sometime soon to gather more interest.

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Does this kind of text shaping look acceptable? Hyphen and apostrophe looks like shit if I were to do it simply vertically.

>>114914753
Absolutely not. If you're going to do vertical text, and you should generally only ever use it for a bubble with 1-2 words at most, it should all be in one column. The alignment there is hideous, especially at the top. You also shouldn't copy Japanese punctuation verbatim. They tend to play it fast and loose with exclamation marks and ellipsis. One exclamation mark is all that you should use there. If you absolutely can't fit all of your text in there, then try to get as little overlap as possible at the top and bottom, and then give the text a thin white stroke, so that it's still readable over the bubble's borders.

Guys, guys, guys, I literally just thought of using 200% horizontally scaled dashes to make fake EM DASHES!!!

Holy fucking shit! Everything looks so much fucking better now! I swear to fucking god, I'm so pissed I didn't think of this years ago, this could have saved me years of buttpain while I searched for fonts with actual proper dashes, because the nature of manga is that you end up using using the same short dash/hyphen thing for both separated words and interruptions and god fucking damn, does it look hideous that way.

>>114914897
>You also shouldn't copy Japanese punctuation verbatim.
Quoted for truth.

>>114914952
>emdashes
Brofist

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>>114914554
Did you even read that first paragraph? I feel like you just looked at the picture and made your comments based off of that.

I haven't said anywhere, in any of my posts, that I think avoiding hyphenations means removing your hyphen key. Even in my picture, un-hyphenated text could still fit perfectly fine without detracting from the "tall and narrow" bubble. So at that point, it's a matter of what qualifies the "need" to hyphenate. If the criteria that procs this need is simply tall, narrow bubbles, then something like a wide bubble shouldn't have the need to have hyphenated words granted they're all a reasonable length. So I guess it would be nice if the majority of bubbles in manga weren't tall and narrow.

As for this page, I was wrong about the darling line because it was just a bit too long.

>>114914897
Apostrophe after "I" and "M" on next line doesn't look great, that's why I'm having kind of hard time with this one. Doing this simply horizontally leaves me almost no spare space left, and small font in a long narrow bubble on a panel that takes almost half of the page ain't great either. Stroking text and go over borders is bad in my book, so I can't do that too.
>You also shouldn't copy Japanese punctuation verbatim.
Hey, I'm just the guy who does shit in Photoshop, but I'll remember that.

>>114915330
Yes, I read what you said. The font size of the originaljapanese text is the same from one bubble to the next, with the expection of the one bubble where darling is yelling and the one with the patterned デトッ text. In order to keep consistency, the English font size is also kept the same from one bubble of normal dialogue to the next. While the English text is smaller than the Japanese in the dar~ling~♪ bubble, it still keeps a consistent shape with the original japanese typesetting and consistent font styling with the rest of the English typesetting.

In the Sidonia panel, unless your font is exceedingly narrow or small, you can't fit "Tanikaze" without crowding the bubble, and you'd be trading in the original's vertical-dominant text for a horizontal.

>>114915436
I don't know the context without seeing the full page's script, but in a case like that I'd consir modifying the script. There are times when you have to change wording to make it fit the space better. You'll always want to do your best to preserve the intent of the original. That might mean cutting that bubble down to "s-sorry" or "f-forgive me" or whatever that works better and is consistent with the manner in which the particular character speaks.

>>114911800
It's worked with a whole bunch of fujoshit/ predominantly female-run secret clubs scanlators.

There's this manga voting thing. Do you have to mail in your votes?

http://sugoi-japan.jp/nominate/howto.html

http://sugoi-japan.jp/nominate/manga/#select

Waiting for other people do their share of work is suffering, I wish that I could do everything by myself.
Actually I'm glad I can't.

>>114914680
>as long as it isn't diagonal, don't bother rotating
Isn't that literally everything that's not perfectly orizontal/vertical?

>>114920058
>Actually I'm glad I can't.
Why? If you work alone, you only got no one to blame but yourself.

>>114920158
I would either work myself to death or burn out and end up quitting for good.

>>114920220
What kind of manga you're working on anyway (you don't have to tell us the title)? Weekly? Bimonthly? Monthly?

>>114920421
3 monthlies, 2 weeklies (most are not up-to-date however) and other small stuffs that might or might not come out.

Looking to translate something since I have too much free time, who is looking for translators atm?

>>114920688
Just translate Baki so it can actually be over. IIRC there are raws somewhere.

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>>114920688
Bought this earlier, interested?

>>114904685
Some of the wording seems awkward. I'm sorta guessing the original consisted of a lot of common phrases that don't really lend themselves to translation.

>Since you went through the trouble of coming here, let's eat together.
might work better as
>Since you're here anyway, let's eat together.
Though if you want to be somewhat more formal:
>Since you're already here, shall we eat together?

>Gladly
I'm guessing that was ittadakimasu in the original. When translating that, the standard is "Let's eat!"

>As expected, it's fun with a lot of people-
Odd phrasing for English. As much as using English idioms and set phrases pains me, you might be better served with:
>As they say, the more the merrier!

>Asabao-san, may I?/I'm fine.
I don't get this. Is the person on the right giving or taking food? If giving food:
>Asabao-san, try some./I'm fine.
If taking food:
>Asabao-san, may I?/Go ahead.

>>114903798
>cslive
That shit is so expensive.

>>114906378
>apply to a group
Fuck groups. Ad hoc translation threads are the only way to fly.

>>114906466
Or they can just try to be a 4chan mod

>>114902082
No clue about scanlating, what's wrong with that page aside from the wonky translation?

>>114921113
Can I do both?

>>114920642
Forget what I said earlier about working alone, you really need someone to get that over with.

What are you? Translator? Editor?

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>>114920688
Check here:
>>114912746
We allway need helps.

Aslo,i know this isn't /m/ but does anyone want to do Kenzen Robo Daimidaier OGS? There aslo another series i'm planning to pick up too but until i get translator to work on it i will hold it.

>>114921749
Jesus Christ center that shit

>>114921749
Please do Aoi Honoo instead. I will suck your dick dry.

Is someone scanlating me and the devil blues? How is it going?

>>114921982
>Aoi Honoo
Fuck yeah. Tonko-san a best.

>>114922203
Translator done chapter 1...and lost in action. He didn't post the script. Nobody repicked it up since then.

>>114921635
Editor. Waiting for TLs I can deal with but seeing things stuck at proofing sucks.

>>114905300

Depends on what your client demands.
And if you're translating for yourself/community, anything goes.

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Working on I am a Hero v15 doubles, then will finish Kyoko v02 doubles and edit Shamo volume.

Then will finally finish that oneshot, that has been delayed for 6 months.

>>114923252
Not even that guy but as another translator, your focus should always be on making it flow and sound natural.

Transliterating is the most common trap fan-translators tend to fall into. They think keeping to the original meaning as close as possible is the most important thing to do. Of course, in a perfect world, there would be a good balance between the two and you'd have a sentence that sounds normal in English while nailing all the meanings and implications in the original language. But if you were forced to make a choice between making it sound good or keeping it closer to the original even if it sounds awkward, making it sound good should win 100% of the time.

TL notes explaining things are not OK. Sometimes the situation calls for it, like context for a joke that only Japanese people would know, and even then unless it's important to the plot so you can't do anything about it, you should be rewriting the entire joke/pun to something English readers would recognise and be familiar with.

Honorifics as well, to be quite honest, do very little other than indicate social position and attitudes between the speaker, using (or omitting) the honorific, and the subject, the person being referred to. When this is done, it can 99% of the time, with very few exceptions, be practically, smoothly, and informatively done in some way in English. Most of the time when it's just san, kun, or chan, it's the "default tone", and really doesn't confer any special meaning. Others such as sensei or senpai are just titles, that can either be inferred or stated easily.

Basically, if you are a translator, and you're leaving notes and honorifics in habitually, regardless of whether or not such difficult-to-translate situations come in, you're probably not very good at determining the meaning behind statements of characters and probably should not be translating. And you probably think too much in terms of 1 word = 1 word translation, also a mark of a terrible translator.

The problem with translating is that most of the time, unless they are properly localized, you either lose meaning, or you're left reading a sentence that nobody in their right mind would actually speak in english.

Most fansub/scanlation groups are awful at making readable text, because there's this unfortunate notion among them that YOU MUST TRANSLATE EVERYTHING LITERALLY, which is a great way to get shit like, say, all of the dialogue in Gundam Wing (and the Gundam novels and Origin Manga, damn, have you read that garbage), Metal Gear Solid and Madoka. To be fair, they're not being paid or doing it professionally; they're doing it on their own time as fans so that should be appreciated, I guess.

Still, here's an example: Original - "こっ... この ひとが... わたしの すかあとを..."
Bad - "Th... This person... My skirt..."
Good - "H-He... pulled down my..."

Now that 'Bad' part was a little overdone and hit just about every possible mistake that could happen, but even so you'll see shit like this all the time.

This all brings me to something else as well, proof-readers/editors/quality checkers etc. They should not be touching a single letter or period. They should not be doing anything. You, as the translator, are responsible for your translation. If ever someone else is looking through your work and making changes, they better be another translator who's just crosschecking your work with the original raw to make sure everything's fine.

If you aren't able to read and write good English and the other language you shouldn't translating. Proofreading for mistakes and grammar is part of your job as a translator. Making things sound nice and flow naturally is part of your job as a translator.

Any groups with more than 2 people doing one manga is wasted effort. All you need is a translator and someone to clean/redraw. As long as both are able to do their jobs, the end result should be better than one with a thousand different editors having their input.

>>114927017
>If you aren't able to read and write good English and the other language you shouldn't translating.
basically what happens to ESL TLs

>>114927017
>>114926954
I'm on the fence with honorifics but I agree with most of the points.

>mfw Sense scans

>>114926954
>>114927017
There are exceptions for all of these rules, but that's still a good way to approach it.

>>114927520
I think people trying to translate honorifics is far worse than leaving them in. It can be some of the cringiest shit

>>114927656
>It can be some of the cringiest shit
Don't read any official translations of manga, I cringe all fucking time. Mostly at their typesetting, though.

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A page from a doujin I just finished yesterday.
Critique me please.

>>114922364
Try working on something else (given that they've passed the proofing stage) while waiting. Else, try looking for other staff members that aren't slow.

>>114928314
It's ok, it's not like I don't know what to do with myself but we could be so much more efficient.

Would anyone know where to find some raws for Oumagadoki Doubutusen? I just wanted to complete the series since it's stuck been at chapter 29 forever. Axed Jump series never get a break.

>>114928304
Not a fan of the font but it works I guess. Also shoddy editing on the bottom middle panel .

Still looking for a translator for Donyatsu if anyone's interested.

>>114927017
>You, as the translator, are responsible for your translation.
I endorse this statement. Unfortunately most people just don't care about quality.

>>114931384
You can get the same or better results with a proofreader as long as they actually work with the translator to okay their changes instead of just changing everything and releasing. Another pair of eyes is almost always helpful, since critiquing your own work can be a bit difficult. Almost no one does that, though.

>>114931575

Most groups don't encourage the dialogue b/w PR and TL. They should.

>>114931183
I remember that panel being a pain in the ass. There was long vertical Japanese text there that already whited the area out on both places so I did the best I could. Font is what my group prefers so that is what it is.

Does everything else seem solid?

Well, since I'm here, I might as well ask. Would anyone here be interested in translating any of the following?

*Future Retro Hero Story
*Inumaru Dashi
*Mieru Hito
*Oumagadoki Doubutsuen.
*Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann - Yoko no Obesohen (1 chapter left)
*Watashi ga Motenai no wa Dou Kangaete mo Omaera ga Warui! Anthology (4 chapters left)

I could really use some help, I'm trying to finish most of these series, and it would be great if I could any help with that. Btw, I just started scanlating yesterday, so I have little experience besides typesetting which I'm doing now.

>>114932007
The blacks could use some more leveling, there are still some visible dust left but eh, not like any readers will give a crap.

>>114931575
It's so much easier working with a second translator to do that. Unfortunately there just aren't enough free translators to do that in most cases.

>>114932112
>I could really use some help, I'm trying to finish most of these series
>I just started scanlating yesterday
What the fuck I am reading.
>Btw
Get the fuck out.

>>114932112
>I could really use some help, I'm trying to finish most of these series
>Btw, I just started scanlating yesterday

The fuck? Did you literally pick up 6 projects on your first day?

>>114932112
>I just started scanlating yesterday
This better be bait.

>>114932467
>>114932477
Oh no, I should've emphasized that these are all projects I would want to work on, I'm only working on Mieru Hito right now cause that's the only one I have translations for the monent.
>>114932582
Why would this be bait? I have tried it a bit in the past but then the manga got picked up by somebody else and got more releases then I could have put out.

When is a raw too light if the blacks seem fine and when is a scan too leveled/darkened?

Text boxes, yay or nay?

Half of the guides say use text boxes, while other half says not to use them.

>>114934183
Text boxes are fine. You will still have to go back and fix them up because sometimes they don't always work.

>>114934183
From my experience it's always just been easier not to use them, but if you can make them work there's nothing wrong with it.

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>>114913058
>>114914190
I gave it a try too. You should get better raws, the jpg compression is horrible.
About your cleaning, there is some visible dust remaining at the top of the page and tilt your screen a bit to see the rest all over the page. I'd suggest using burn/dodge to get rid of it.

>>114937418
Damn, what's the first step to doing something like that? Have a link to a guide in cleaning?

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>>114926954
Outside of your opinion about honorifics, I agree with this post.

However, I also sympathize with occasional transliterating. Things like "as expected", or "it can't be helped" are often so familiar to the modern reader that it lets them know what's really being said better than "there's no denying that..." or "well, whatcha gonna do?" or something similar.

It reminds me of the days when I had to explain what a "tsundere" was to people when I used the word. I no longer have to and the ability to just use it is much better than having to equate it to something in English. Likewise, those admittedly awkward phrases are nearly the next best thing to simply leaving the text as "sasuga" or "shikatanai". Also, BECAUSE they're so awkward and well-known, they can even be used as an inside joke if the situation can accommodate one. So I like using them every now and then.

All this, of course, is disregarding the fact that the original Anon's sentence was pretty poorly written.

>>114939796
>Likewise, those admittedly awkward phrases are nearly the next best thing to simply leaving the text as "sasuga" or "shikatanai".
I really hope you're not implying that leaving the text as that is the "best thing."

>>114939855
The best thing would be everyone being able to understand Japanese, yes.

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>>114928304
Your text spacing is weird. Make friends with these features.

>>114925198
Which one-shot?

Looks like they opened registration at ugcity.pw if anyone wants to try grabbing their raws.

>>114941924
I've never heard of this site. What makes it worth signing up for?

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What's the tool for text boxes on cs6? I'm working on this page now and well... yikes.

>>114941924
>chink tier secret club that requires participating in the community to get stuffs.

Got an account and can't be arsed to work for it. Public raws are good enough for me.

>>114942476
Press T

>>114941924
Can you still search for stuff even if you're not registered?

>>114942476
You just drag with the text tool.

>>114942521
>>114942542
That's the tool I'm using, but is there a way for it to cover the jap text?

>>114942644
Welcome to redrawing.

>>114942644
What are you talking about?

>>114942726
Crap., I don't know how to redraw. Have a good source on learning it?

Why are scanalators so slow? You can even do a decent scan with mspaint as long as you pick a decent font.

>>114942825
Why does everyone ask for redrawing guides? There's no guide. You just draw over the gaps that the text creates.

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>>114942874
pls don't bully

>>114942825
>>114942970
http://redhawkscans.com/showthread.php?6774-Rain-s-redraw-corner
Should help you a bit, but you're expected to know the basics first.

>>114943430
Wow, now that's awesome, thanks, bro.

>>114937856
>Have a link to a guide in cleaning?
I don't unfortunately, the last one I've followed was years ago, but you can easily find a lot with a quick google search.

What I did for that page and similar aspect:
-set it to grayscale
-duplicate
-use blur/remove noise if needed
-lazily create a layer of levels
-decrease contrast so the lighter grays stay in
-create 2 layers of levels, one to check the whites and another to check the blacks
-go back to the first levels and set them properly while using the ones above to check as you do that
-remove dust and "make blacks black and whites white" (burn/dodge and paintbrush)
-remove/decrease bleeding by using burn/dodge with "midtones" range on low exposure

And sorry for the late reply, soup doesn't make itself.

So translations aside, shitty typesetting/cleaning/redrawing, which one is the worst?

>>114946455
Typesetting.
Comics are next to books when it comes to how important text looks on a page.

>>114946455
Typesetting. Bad cleaning is tolerable and the average reader probably doesn't care about redraws. Shitty typesetting can ruin the mood of a story though, more than bad cleaning or a redraw error.

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Did anyone else get headaches from reading this font?

>>114947120
>>114947135
Typesetting is often regarded as the easiest job that a monkey could do and there are still so many shitty TS jobs out there, funny how that goes.

>>114947836
>retard font
A'int that the truth

>>114947891
It's because it's easy that anyone tries to do it. Even people that shouldn't.
That being said, it really isn't actually so simple. The fact that people do suck at it should be proof. It still takes creativity, a good eye, and some experience working with the program you're using.
It's just that in comparison to the other parts of scanlating (translating, cleaning, etc) it's comparatively easy.

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>>114947836
>random lower-case i's in an otherwise uppercase font

>>114948536
I'd say it takes some good taste. I for one can never decide which font looks good or bad for the life of me.

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Is the title ok? Anything else I should work on?

>>114948536
I'm a cleaner and I sometimes edit and typeset if I need to. I can get creative with font placement and using the transform tools and giving the text different effects but I really suck at font selection. I always use Wild Words and not much else.

>>114948753
It more ore less looks good, but what kind of anti-aliasing are you using on that font? Is it sharp or smooth?

>>114948753
I wish people would stop using CC Astro City for a main font (not the case here). It's such a shitty font that only really works in boxes.

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>>114948812
I think Wild Words is a bit overused, but otherwise there's really nothing wrong with it. Hopefully you just don't use it on every kind of text, like words outside of speech bubbles or god forbid sound effects.

And there are plenty of guides and images out there if you need help choosing what other fonts you can use.

>>114949043
No trash hand?

Currently working on nothing because my translator is AWOL. Such is life

>>114944305
Not at all, thanks a lot, anon!

Hope you enjoy your soup.

>>114949132
That image is actually really old, but it was the easiest one I could find.

>>114949155
Sucks, what do you do? Cleaning? Typesetting?

>>114949219
Typesetting mostly. I'm trying to muddle my way through cleaning too, though I can't say I'm experienced yet.

>>114949294
Ah same here. What are, well were, you working on?

>>114949043
I do use a different font if I think the situation needs it, I'm probably just being far to conservative, it's more of a problem when typesetting manga and non-H than hentai. I also really need to clear out my font collection, I have too many. It's making it more difficult than it needs to be.

>>114926954
>TL notes explaining things are not OK. Sometimes the situation calls for it, like context for a joke that only Japanese people would know, and even then unless it's important to the plot so you can't do anything about it, you should be rewriting the entire joke/pun to something English readers would recognise and be familiar with.

Could not disagree more. Your views on honorifics are also awful.
>very little other than something that isn't very little
And no one has ever shown any sort of way to effectively convey this with the English script otherwise. You end up having them using slang when they aren't using slang instead or have them calling them by a nickname when they aren't using a nickname.

Basically, you're an awful translator for being so closed minded about these issues and if you were professionally translating something with that attitude you would probably be fired.

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>>114949401
Ships. Managed to churn out 5/18 pages of translations. The raws were pretty good, so I figured I'd run some practice with cleaning for it.

>>114949913
>working on the shitty Shimakaze manga
I pity you.

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Working on a few series solo right now (although I'll probably get an editor for one of them). Don't know where I should dump them when I'm done. Should I just get a blog? I don't usually work freelance.

>>114948869
Sharp.

>>114949979
I fapped to it at least tiwce, so whatever

>>114950152
Try smooth. It might make it look a little better.

Emphasis on "might". Just play with it.

>>114950238
It's hard to tell, but it does look nicer. Thanks.

>Shuukan Shounen Girl found an editor

Awesome.

Are new keyman chapters posted on a certain day? wondering if I'll miss the next thread.

>>114950198
The only boat manga worth anything are the /ss/ ones.

will anyone ever pick up ORANGE?

>>114951785
I doubt it since CR did.

>>114900985
In my language, which is not English, sentences have to end with a period.

>>114951747
Maybe I'll lean on the TL to do one when he gets back.

>>114951785
>last updated sept 24th
didn't someone just pick it back up?

>>114951996
looks like CR picked it back up

Could anyone give a guess as to what percentage of manga have not been picked up EVER for scanlation? Have most been attempted? or is there a plethora of manga out there untouched?

>>114952153
Hundreds, if not thousands of manga out there is untouched.

>>114952153
Too many to freaking count.

You're all fucking plebs for not scanlating NOT LIVES.

>>114952153
I'm gonna pull out numbers from my ass and say only 15% of manga has been even attempted at a scanlation.

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These estimates probably aren't that far off. I remember often buying the magazines of the manga I'd long liked to read while I lived in Japan.

There were times when literally the only thing I'd ever heard of and arguably was even worth reading in the magazine was the particular series I bought the thing for. The rest was just hundreds of pages of uninteresting and weird shit. Picture related. The magazine Hourou Musuko ran in was garbage.

>>114934183

I use them for reeeeeeally big blocks of text, otherwise I just linebreak that shit myself.

Is there a way to make photoshop recognize only certain fonts

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>>114955459
Use typesetterer

>>114921450
>for free

I was making this edit for fun some time ago and it's the only typesetting experience I've got. How's it look?

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>>114956305
Whoops, didn't realize it was so big.

>>114956383
>Anime Ace
>text not centered
Absolutely disgusting

>>114956383
I'd say move the I in the first bubble down to the next line so the pause is at the end of the line. And I wouldn't just make Itadakimasu super small to make it fit; I'd use a hyphen there. Not bad for never doing anything before.

>>114934183
I go with text boxes myself but make sure to manipulate the text so there aren't as many word line splits. Possibly, you might wish to use custom spacing for the text boxes which is kind of a pain to do and normally unnecessary.

>>114905909
Fuck you, dark is better for working.

Anybody want to pick up Birdy the Mighty while they're at it?
I'm pretty sure Ronin Ixorian died.

>>114934183
As long as you aren't just pasting it in there and not actually formatting it you should definitely do. Saves you time typing and avoids you possibly adding typos into an already edited script. A lot of people who do all the work themselves prefer to type it out because they're still editing on the fly until the final product is finished, but if you're just typesetting you've gotten a script that's been looked over already. You want exactly what's there so you should copy it exactly.

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>>114956305
>>114956383
The text in the first two bubbles is a bit too big. You should shrink it a little.
The "Itadakimasu" on the other hand, is too small. It looks like she's saying it in a small voice. I know you probably wanted to put it all on the same line, but you'd probably benefit from adding a dash and breaking the word up.
The rest looks good.

>>114956561
What's wrong with Anime Ace? I saw it as a recommended font several times earlier in the thread.

Also, I'm pretty sure I centered the text. Do you mean it's not centered in the bubbles properly? Because that was one of the things I was most curious about.

>>114956566
>>114956732
Noted. Thanks for the advice.

>>114954030
>Comic Beam
>garbage
Them's fightan words, son.

>>114956980
Yes, take the top right bubble for example, the text should be placed a little lower.
And Anime Ace is ugly as sin that's what's wrong with it.

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I'm just planning in working in some short series.

I'm in need of a cleaner for YKK.

Learning how to clean. Long road ahead of me. Doesn't help that the tutorials are all from half a decade ago.

>>114960034
Not much has changed. Still no neural networks to help us clean.

i love using cc astro city as main dialogue text. I also clean lq public raws

>>114900985
In my search for the raws of Knights and Magic volumes I am practicing with the web novel for now.

We had a pretty good CN-Eng TL for the first volume, so honestly I mostly just want to do volume 2 as a stop gap until he gets his CN source,

A few days ago anons was asking for someone to translate some Motofumi Kobayshi stuff from Spanish. If they send me said Spanish scans I'll do it.

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How is this looking?

>>114969457
Like shitty magazine scan.

>>114969457
The moire is awful. Try upscaling, leveling, and then downscaling.

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>>114904703
4kids pls go