>Temple of Solomon the King:
MEGA library update in last thread put it at 33.8 gb, 476 folders, and 5047 individual texts or files.
Looks like my acquisition of Alpha and Omega of Initiation's hitting a few snags. May be finding other rare material to add but I won't announce what in, case more snags so I don't get hopes up.
Diabolical - scarlet imprint
Sumerian mythology- a study of spiritual and literary achievement in the ... Ayтop- Samuel Noah Kramer
The private diary of Dr John Dee - halliwell
Sacrifice Tablets of the Worship of Baal (1897) - Massilia Carthago
On it. also top kek looks like someone got the whole TO.b tracker about a year ago.
Any chance you could hunt around TO.bz for...
>Alpha and Omega of Initiation
Or anything on my running acquisition list, to post shortly.
Also, I'll finally get on sorting the Tantra stuff Aghori posted for us at some point today.
You mah nigga, Zorak.
Kalikapurana, tr B.N. Shastri. Sanskrit and English in two volumes. HIGH PRIORITY
"Karavali Nirnaya", Arthur Avalon
Sarada Tilaka Tantra (English Translation)
Kularnava Tantra Ram Kumar Rai
The Starry Rubric, Alexander Cummins
Aspects of Kashmir Saivism by B.N. Pandit
Spandapradipika A Commentary on the Spandakarika by Bhagavadutpalacarya By Mark S.G. Dyczkowski
Kubjika, Kali, Tripura, and Trika (Publications of the Nepal Research Centre) by Mark S. G Dyczkowski
Manthanabhairavatantram, Kumarikakhandah 12 Vol. The Section Concerning the Virgin Goddess by Mark S. G Dyczkowski
On the Mystical Shape of the Godhead: Basic Concepts in the Kabbalah by Gruenwald, Ithamar.
Apocalyptic and Merkavah Mysticism by Ithamar Gruenwald
The Merkabah in Rabbinic Literature by David J. Halperin
The Shi’ur Qomah. Texts and Recensions by Martin Samuel Cohen
From Apocalypticism to Gnosticism: Studies in Apocalypticism, Merkavah Mysticism, and Gnosticism by Ithamar Gruenwald
Mystical Prayer in Ancient Judaism. An Analysis of MA’ASEH MERKABAH by Michael D. Swartz
The Revelation of the Secret World: The Beginning of Jewish Mysticism by Joseph Dan
The Gnostic Imagination. Gnosticism, Mandaeism, and Merkabah Mysticism
“Peering through the Lattices”: Mystical, Magical, and Pietistic Dimensions in the Tosafist Period
Concealment and Revelation: Esotericism in Jewish Thought and Its Philosophical Implications
Sex and Lunar Worship By Ida Craddock, Edited and with an Introduction by Vere Chappell.
DESU I highly doubt TO.bz has anything on my acquisition list, if you remember we had an anon who would routinely smuggle files out of the tracker and none of what I posted here: >>17263615 was on it.
You should cast the arcane and ancient spell called "study harder" and then follow up with the evokation to paying attention.
Yeah, dude, I'm well fuggin aware. I'm always thirsty for Brill editions, and it's just going to get worse with super oversized releases like Songs for the Witch Woman and Blazing Dew.
Really if I can get the texts I mentioned in the thread plus the Scarlet Imprint book on The Tower card, I'd declare the library 'done' and only add on texts as they get released instead of the running archive these last howmanyever years.
I have one from Buer, and past lives from nagas.
You must post your next meal though, for me to tell you.
As was revealed to me, make success that which is aesthetic to you and make it your aesthetic. Fill the role as you see fit, imitate and emanate the aesthetic of the scholar, the academic as you want to be. Shape your space in a manner conductive.
What is most important is do do what is true to you and not the outer projection of such concepts gleaned from others. If it is in line, that isn't a problem, but it must be what you want from within you and not what the concept wants to ascribe.
This is only the beginning of this rabbit hole. The aesthetic and ones relation to it may be one of the most powerful forces henceforth rediscovered. Just remember to keep you inner astrology a secret.
It'd probably help if you told me what your problem is.
ape pls help. i have no acess to a guru and im trying to find ganesha. is this mantra legit and how do i chant it ?
Also what is your opinion on ingesting semen ? i keep seeing monks ingesting their own semen. pls help.
i want ganesha
I'm not a worshiper of Ganesha, so I can't help you mate.
The mantra you mentioned is derived from Tibetan Buddhism and was, supposedly, delivered to this guy:
I'd imagine that's one of the more powerful public mantras if we know about it but there are probably others that are communicated orally.
Ganesha is too real wtf. I have been to church and I have been in isckon temples. They seem like cattles worshipping the most brilliant and illustrious god that is Ganesha. Union of kala bhairav and Kali , uma and siva. Life seems less real then Ganesha does. I see him in even buddha. Wtf. Am I going crazy ?
No senpai, youre getting it. He is in everything. Just remember, his name and appearance is not only the elephant guy ganesha, HE is everything, and it doesnt matter what you call him.
Hara Hara Mahadev!
Realize that ganesha is in everything. He is the beginning and end, from him stems everything. He is the union of Shiva and Shakti.
You are ganesha, just as much as ganesha is ganesha and as anapple is ganesha. ganesha is the tree, and arent branches and roots and apples just the same as the tree? They are equally parts of it.
Realize that fully, and that is the nondual state. I call it shivata, but hell, you might call it ganesh-state .
Research on ganesha tantra, its a thing.
What are you thinking of for HU, K, the full method or the quick-and-dirty way by incorporating it into the ST?
This thing could be several hours long for what is, from what I can see, a fairly straightforward purpose
Bumping with Mandaeans.
India gets all the glamour, but the Middle East has some seriously interdasting traditions too.
Shame they'll all get wiped out by ISIS, Iran or the US sooner or later
>HIDDEN EDEN: Mandaeans believe that every beast, bird, flower and the whole physical universe has a spiritual counterpart in Mshunia Kushta (the ideal world or paradise of the Mandaeans), although according to Foerster, this idea is seldom mentioned in the older books, yet more frequently in the later books and is situated in the north. The inhabitants of this world who are the descendants of Adam Kasia and Hawa Kasia (the hidden Adam and Eve) are said to marry and have children but without pollution in the process.
Mandaean Hidden Eden is located in...the north
Also Hidden Adam and Hidden Eve's children
Corpse-King and Corpse-Queen's children, one of whom is Qayin, maybe?
An interesting line of inquiry, anyway
Neither, they're basically gnostics. Followers of John the Baptist with a dislike for Jesus.
K noticed Mandaean influence in the Dragon Book, so I've been doing a little light reading about them, they're really interesting guys.
It's easy to think that the Middle East is spiritually boring because all we see on the news is standard Sunnism and Shi'ism, but that's largely down to the lack of western interest in people like the Mandaeans, Yazidis, Druze, Alawites, etc.
The druze are really dank. I met a few and i never met somone more secretive, theyll agree with angthing you believe about them priorly, i checked this by giving opposing statements about their beliefs to different druze and they agreed. They dont want anyone to know their secret ways ;-;
Alawites are normie, just muslims though. Unless they also lied to me.
But the mandeans sound interesting, i should probably do some reading about them too. And whats all the fuss with the dragon book desu. Is it really that good/complex?
Alawi claim to be Muslims because of the way they engage in Taqiyah to cover their real beliefs. It started out as a way to survive among Sunni Muslims and Shia, but then became a way to deny the things people ask them. In more modern times, it's harder to hide since the internet has made knowledge accessible. Alawi are strange and neglect duties of Islam, such as five daily prayers or salat. They also have holidays from Christianity and Zoroastrianism, like Christmas and Noruz.
So the guy did lie. He said he basicly believes in the same things as the shias do, but that they incorporate some of sufi beliefs.
Still though, im pretty happy about knowing enough about my own tradition. Its comfy.
When I first saw you post, I thought it was a strange coincidence. I had been telling my friend that the best way to understand a "non-edgy" version of Satanism was through Aghora Dharm. He did some research on his own and basically agreed with me. Non-duality in regards to ideas such as good and evil are my kind of thing, but I don't call myself an Aghori. I have many influences on me. I try to help others along. The timing of you posting in /omg/ threads seems a good omen in my opinion.
It is done. Done as it is going to be.
Afaik the Alawis are secretive along the lines of the Druze, though perhaps not all of them (e.g. if they weren't all that into religion, they might genuinely not know much about it). Alawism definitely has mystical elements to it.
Basically, the DBoE is something myself and Ape both found interesting, so we decided to explore it- Chumbley has a great reputation, but I've never actually met anyone who's performed his work, so I wondered where that reputation came from.
DBoE is dense as all fuck, it takes influences from just about everywhere you could imagine, and is so difficult to parse that 3+ months into the ritual cycle, we're still finding new stuff.
That having been said, so far I think we both agree that the system is effective, or seems to be. We've both received dreams/coincidences related to it, and the effect of the last Dark Moon rite seems to have been huge on both of us (elation for Ape, panic for me).
In theory, it seems to provide a pretty quick and powerful path to initiation (and the HGA), but whether or not it actually does so remains to be seen.
So far, I'm enjoying it. We're over 25% of the way through the ritual year, though the real shit doesn't begin for another few months.
Interesting. Is there any objective to the system? I heard its got some intense kaula influence. Which makes it interesting to me.
Sorry to ask for pilling, but if you could just briefly explain the objective, or end goal of the system. Or maybe there isnt any and its just a ritual manual?
I'm probably going to try to try to do the whole damn thing.
I lost some time today arguing with my fellow Thelemabros, but I'll have plenty of time to prep my work space going back and forth to campus. Should start on pre-HU practices soonly.
Interestingly I've been arguing with said Thelemabros about whether or not Chumbley's worthless garbage.
The main point appears to be Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel.
It is a ritual manual as well, there's a lot going on, from the adoration of stellar forces to evokation of obscure entities to creation of high order thoughtforms and egregores to theory on the astral temple. It's essentially a revision of the Western systems across time and history into a practice intelligible and workable to anyone, provided enough background info, who is interested.
Chumbley reckons it as trans-historical, meaning it should be as efficacious and workable to a guy in 1400's Italy as it is today.
>Interestingly I've been arguing with said Thelemabros about whether or not Chumbley's worthless garbage.
What's their opinion?
I'm uncertain how they could actually argue that, given that the DBoE so far seems like the GD/A.'.A.'. formulae done at sanic speed with added Middle Eatern material (and surprisingly cohesive, given the initial impression you get of the book)
forgot to trip
Pretty much what Ape said >>17264781, it seems to function as a quick path to the HGA initially. Presumably the Angel then leads you to start warping the system to your own requirements (hence Chumbley's advice to do it his way first before fucking around with it) - I wonder if it can lead higher than that, but we'll worry about that once HGA is attained (WHEN that will be is debateable, I question whether or not it can bring it on within a year. Not for any objective reason, just my own thoughts)
I'd imagine it's a matter of fin de siecle cocksniffing and the cult of personality around the wickedest man in the world. Hard to like something before it's cool when you're busy liking something long after the joke ran out for ironic intensive porpoises.
Everything Chumbley ever wrote was garbage because it:
>mentions drug use
(But AC's usage of mescaline is OK)
>doesn't require you to maintain discipline like Resh
(But completely ignores Stellar Transvocation, Hallowing the Kingdom, etc.)
>is poorly cited
(Unlike Crowley who ALWAYS cited his work, like Chaldean Oracles...which isn't in any of his Bibliographies, not to mention everything else in the Yorke Microfilms that was either redacted by Crowley or neglected by Grand Lodge)
>derives from Ken Grant
(Let's ignore the letter to Curwen where AC said "I've been to harsh on him")
>is ungrounded fantasy with no relation to actual historical material
(Ignoring, like, everything in the book)
My impression is that these guys read through Leaper or Azoetia, once, and completely made every single criticism they could think of out of thin air.
It's actually a pretty amusing exchange and if this is GD I'll send you an edited version of the thread.
Yeah, m8, really makes me question my self application of these labels sometimes. You'd figure folks with PhDs in philosophy would know better than to complain so hard and precisely about material they've never read.
>these are the stewards of your Current
>where's my feelium tank?
To be fair, it would be nice if Chumbley sourced his shit a bit, but given that the DBoE is supposed to give off the air (i.e. a physical copy) of being a talisman, I could see a list of sourced notes as kind of diminishing that. Plus, it's sort of obvious what he's referencing once you think it through (e.g. the yazidi stuff)
>It's actually a pretty amusing exchange and if this is GD I'll send you an edited version of the thread.
Yeah please do, that'd be an interesting read.
I'm surprised they knew enough about Chumbley to even form those opinions, generally people have no clue, or assume it's a 2spooky form of wicca (including wiccans I've seen commenting on it. In reality the book has a fairly limited amount to do with witchcraft, from what I can see)
>My impression is that these guys read through Leaper or Azoetia, once, and completely made every single criticism they could think of out of thin air.
Yeah I could see how that might happen. His earlier stuff is a lot more witch-based, he didn't really hit his stride till DBoE by the look of it.
Still interested to see the third Trimagisterion volume though. Forgotten the (probably) name (begins with an A), but apparently Schulke & Co. are busy trying to finish it off
>2spooky form of wicca
That exact phrase was dropped multiple times.
The Aureon? Yeah, I'll have a giggle m8 if it's even more directly Thelemic but more plain and comprehensible than AC's absolutely uncommented A.'.A.'. rituals.
Congrats, though, you an I are beasts which don't actually exist because NOBODY has actually worked the material! Not even the Cultus Sabbati! According to the mainstream Thelemic community, the entirety of the Work of Chumbley is just getting high and reading his books!
Though, to be somewhat fair, we probably are the only people outside of maybe a couple hundred very quiet folks who've applied the material, either in the CS or from the public text.
I'll edit up a copy of the exchange and send it off after a few more paragraphs of homework.
Ideology is the death of everything. Insert Groucho Marx quote, &c.
I've been too close to the hivemind to expect more than what you described. It's nice when it does happen, but that's pretty rare. It's always been my hope to get a society together that is open to anything without going all the way into ayy crystal shadow oracle memeshit.
>Though, to be somewhat fair, we probably are the only people outside of maybe a couple hundred very quiet folks who've applied the material, either in the CS or from the public text.
I doubt it's even a couple hundred - bear in mind this thing was only released like a year and a bit ago, meaning there's been ONE crop of non-CS people who have attempted it (and likely the biggest group there'll be for a while), and another group who are attempting it now (including you and me).
CS, I would guess have like 100 people at the absolute most, given the difficulty in finding members, but that's a complete guess. Could be 10, could be 500.
>According to the mainstream Thelemic community, the entirety of the Work of Chumbley is just getting high and reading his books!
Ironically, that's how the mainstream GD views the mainstream Thelemic community. Seems like no one bothers reading anyone elses work!
I get the feeling that the DBoE will never catch on in any large way, it'll always be a few weirdos like the two of us trying it out. What's more likely is that one or two simplified variations on it (from individual practitioners) will spread among a couple of people, and spread out from there. But who knows.
Third title also COULD be the Green Gospel, but the Aureon is more likely accoridng to the chatter I've seen about it. I've literally only seen the name though, no one seems to have any idea of the content
No. That's not me.
I'm getting some really odd info on Schulke, again, I'll link when I'm not doing X amount of things at once.
>Seems like no one bothers reading anyone elses work!
Number one problem in the magickal current today.
CS put out a book that didn't go public aside from their mailing list some time ago, so one wonders what it is.
Again, I'd be more than happy to extract material from the running notes for it.
Start in the beginner's folder.
I've seen that altar, dude has a VERY nsfw homosex tumblr, like with his asscheeks splayed wide and a caption "Plowing the Field of Qayin".
>I've seen that altar, dude has a VERY nsfw homosex tumblr, like with his asscheeks splayed wide and a caption "Plowing the Field of Qayin".
And this guy is one of the very few reading this book.
>Again, I'd be more than happy to extract material from the running notes for it.
I think that could be a good idea, I'll clean it up a bit and then give you access to it or something
>CS put out a book that didn't go public aside from their mailing list some time ago, so one wonders what it is.
Now this I hadn't heard about, hear anything specific about it?
>No. That's not me.
Just making sure....now kind of glad to hear it
>That which is aesthetic is that which works. That which works is conversely aesthetic.
This is essentially a rewording of one of the key facets to my (and hardly "mine") concept of Joy: art only "works," only manifests itself as the engineer to philosophy's theorist, when there is cooperation. Cooperation exists necessarily within the nature of interaction, as there can be none without exchange. There is Joy where we find each other, while there are other things where we simply see each other --- which is no curse, as there can only be selves and others and interactions when not every line between every dot is or can be drawn.
Really, and not to be dismissive (at least not per se) this essay is self-evident, since vaporwave (read: aesthetica, read: pop culture, read: mass media, read: internet 2.0, read: vaporwave, read: aesthetica) has never claimed to be anything else than navigating the psycho-cultural detritus of schizo-mediated childhoods; which in turn has been at the instress of the internet itself since Usenet; which in turn is a simple repetition of psychogeography; which in turn lies at the root of the modern Western esoterica.
It's like Scott McCloud's definition of art: things are art because humans make them, and humans cannot help but make them so that they are not mere necessities of Nature.
If anything, Plato is the Cave that Apes ascended from when they began flaking stones from memory-memory instead of muscle-memory; the transcendence of Form itself, wherein Nature the lever is a stick because the lever is a stick.
>/omg/, BTFOing /lit/ and /his/ since 2012
You guys are great.
That was exactly the point. It's entirely self evident, but only if you've actually studied the shit and sifted the bullshit from the bullshit. I've just declared western esoterica free from western esoterica. We can all go home, I mean not really, but we can all go home and throw out all the ugly crap you get because you 'have' to and do some well needed feng shui. I'm making it absolutely clear in the language of the zeitgeist that you can meme yourself for fun and profit. We have, or are about to, intersect with the bleeding edge of the other science and get schwifty better than ever. I want more people to be good and ready.
I don't think that was actually a challenge, so much as further elaborated perspective. I've got more where that came from, too, now that I've been mulling over your essay (which is good, btw, I do mean I like it, and it's rather close to Schiller along with the guy you're replying to):
>tfw getting schwifty
I wanted to make the most poorly formed, post-ironic statement I could to reach whoever reads that kind of shit. Aesthetic spiritualism is going to be the driving force for the next while.
>tfw too much schwifty
What is there to make of this?
>dragon book of essex
>that fucking book trailer on jewtube
>anything but a joke
its so sad when i see you faggots put so much time and effort in the wrong way. i could save you a billion lifetimes by just one word that shows the truth but youre not going to listen and im not going to say it anyway so aave fun with your childs play.
No, tell me the Truth, O Ascended Master! Surely you'll be like the guy I was arguing with who had soooo many insightful comments about a book he never read, or researched, or practiced.
Though that thing is p. goofy. About the only thing I liked in it was the implication of the death of the Golden Dawn.
Semen is called pale blood by the initiated
Do you dare to drink from the forbidden fountain of youth?
>tell me the truth, oh, ascended master
The sky and the kosmos are one
Well from that perspective then, you failed. Even if you're stating your aims, your intent is to make a statement in the cultural negative, which almost always by default fails; not to mentions undermines your point because it implies an awareness of categorical pluralism and a desire to distract therefrom.
I'm not actually ratting on you either here or above, I very much enjoyed your essay and the simple fact that it might exist. It just seems to me to be a Pythonesque misfire re: your own intentions v. my impressions, in that that "Pythonesque" exists to describe Monty Python's work means they fundamentally failed at their goal.
"Don't play with the 'pataphysical fire," even if its your only torch, I guess.
Care to point me to an archive link? Or are you just here to whine and complain while not offering substantial critique, like so many others?
Don't be afraid to end your post in desu.
The point of magic is first hand knowledge of the spiritual side of man. And that's a path you should be familiar with desu
magic = misunderstanding of astrotheology
just like how some mythic entities changed their behavioral pattern through history, going from good to bad guys (like Daevas in Zoroastrian and Devas in Hinduism) the understanding of astrotheology has been deformed throughout the history leading to creation of what you call magic. you are all cucks, i gave you the cleansing material. uncuck yourself.
>in that that "Pythonesque" exists to describe Monty Python's work means they fundamentally failed at their goal.
>Thou art the Power beyond all Named.
>The Primal Uncoiling of I.
>"Don't play with the 'pataphysical fire," even if its your only torch, I guess.
But metaphysics is too classical for my post-postmetamodern hipster sensibilities.
I tend to see little functional difference between magick and yoga. Both are discipline to the aim of unification to a single luminous point.
Oh, hey Team Illuminati. How you doing these days?
I'd already read large chunks of your reading list, except the Afro-revisionary history, which I don't really plan on.
But feel free to call people retard, cuck, dipshit, faggot, nigger, etc., for a good ten or fifteen posts. And if that's the end-phenomena of your proposed Enlightened® Truth™ then I think I'll pass, thanks.
Get the fuck out of here SpiritScience-Fag. Nobody likes you.
Coming Forth by Day. Pyramid Texts. Coffin Texts. Seth: God of Confusion. Ritual of the Unveiling of Ma'at. Those should be up in my Egyptian folder.
Crowley's Liber Israfel if you wanna start off with really light invoking, but it just comes from the source material I mentioned anyhow.
>said the thelema shill
i know (and you know) that nothing in any of my posts is related to illuminati or any secret society since nothing of value can be found in any of them. you turned to ad hominem just to calm your ego? thats pathetic. cuck is of 4chan terminology, i dont use the other words you suggest. unless you get paid to shitpost (which is plausible) you must be an actual retard to keep posting about those childish shit like DBoE. just look at your friend here:
The fact that you relate Astrotheology to SpiritScience shows that you are a neophyte. refrain from shitposting and read a book.
Liber Israfel is a strong invocation if you use it for its intended purpose- before you lead a discussion or preach. The relationship between Chokmah and Thoth as the proto-typical Magus is the identification that you're making in that invocation, and the "declaration of the word" is meant to aid with the discussion that follows.
I was referring to an old tripfag who used to come around here and call people names spam making liberal references to astrotheology and how we're all worthless genetic inferiors and shills as opposed to his brilliance, so pardon if I'd noticed a resemblance and just assumed you were one in the same. My bad.
I also don't think it was necessarily an attack on the your character v. substance, you simply reminded me of a tripfriend of the past who wasn't so bad when he'd cool his RP jets. We had like three good conversations. One on Iesod.
Also, the guy using the avatars is a newcomer to these threads. Never seen him here before.
My point is rather that it's not near as taxing as trying to cobble together working adorations and practices yourself from the source material, but that said, it's a pretty decent example of what to keep an eye out for in said source material to mark for extraction and standardization.
I am the guy who gave you the reading list but the WE WUZ KINGS N SHIT book was there by mistake and i dont remember using a trip. If i used one it was temporary and im not a tripfag. Anyway i would be ready to discuss astrotheology in relation to comparative mythology and comparative religion.
That'd be me.
I *think* I remember you, but can't be certain. Four/five years is a long time. As long as you don't go full-blown Aeris/Misa-Amane/Waifukiller I won't smash dat report button.
It's all good, m8, you just reminded me of another guy who used to post here years back is all.
RE: Astrotheology, what in your mind would produce the sort of stellar phenomena that the Books of Enoch seem to imply. If we're going to make a reading of those materials with astrotheology in mind, they seem ripe for parsing out wtf was going on; meteor showers, comet clusters, etc. I'd pull out some of my notes but I've been running with all pistons firing most of the day and am probably about to duck out soonish.
I went under a few names, but we chatted quite a bit on irc for awhile as thelemanons. I believe I was Frater P in the irc chats.
Fuck. That. Ho.
I use Envy because comic relief, not because I'm an attention whore.
>Fuck. That. Ho.
I'd hope NOBODY is scrogging bronies.
Yeah, I don't really go to #thelema anymore since Holtberg went full blown alt-right/reactionary "everything is worthless except the things I like" and kept making huge judgements on large bodies of material that he he's not functionally familiar with in the face of direct evidence contrary to his assertions.
Seriously, how in the hell are you going to say ALL occultism past 1900 is predicated on the psychological model PERIOD. It only takes *one* non-psych model text for that assertion to be BTFO and for me to dismiss the conjectures as pic related.
all religions worship the sun. all of them. jesus said :
"i am the light of the world and nobody come to the father except through me"
these are my beliefs about the sun (which are not scientific but based on astrotheology material) sun is not burning. its just a medium of energy from another dimension. when jesus (which is just a depiction of sun like all other major gods and deities) says that i am the light and only through me you can come to the father it means by crashing into the sun you can go to another dimension or travel through time. have you ever seen any of those videos of massive gigantic UFOs crashing into the sun? i dont know how legit those are but thats close to my idea. the most important thing about astrotheology is that what has been worshiping throughout the ages is the sun and any major god or deity is a metaphor for sun. but why would they do that? probably what i said above is the reason.
Interesting tidbit, the Gnostics reckoned Qayin as an intensely solar entity. Hell I worship the sun four fucking times a day.
I imagine the reason for solar worship is less complex than that. The ancients weren't retards, as much as our modern humans like to contrast ourselves against them; it doesn't much brain power to figure out that without the sun everything's fucked, real quick. May also explain the apocalyptica associated with solar eclipses.
That particular quote could also be one of the Egyptian holdovers in Hebrew thought, of what few were left at the of Yeshuah.
I think the quote and the J=sun metaphor more likely comes from John's obvious platonist influences, Philo especially seems to have been on early christian reading lists. Sun=form of the good in the republic
For better understanding of the sun worship in all religions, one must study Mithraic mysteries. Mithra literally means the sun. Every single ritual is a metaphor of the Hey'at which is the science of knowing the exact place of constellation at any given time. I dont know what this science is called in English. You might be right about the mystification of the astronomy through time and after the great flood or whatever that made the previous high-tech civilizations go almost extinct. This might have been a way to perserve this high-tech knowledge by turning it into a religion and faith hoping this would guarantee the existence of it. but i guess they didnt see how far it can go.
"people" like pic related do incoming pic...
You don't think some of the rich bastard's palaces have dungeons?
Hard to get a picture?
Not to sound retarded or anything, but is there any way to summon an angel? Not like a demon or anything like that that I wish to do harm or some weird golem or a love spell or something.
I just want to know if it's possible to speak with a "celestial being" and what I'd need to do if it is.
>but is there any way to summon an angel
Ya, it's easy in fact. You have to visualize intensely the angel's sigil until it "lights up" in your mind. Then, and this is the main step, you have to burn the sigil to release it's energy so that you can connect the angel.
>Is masturbation bad
Every fucking thread.
It's bad if you're a Christist or about involved in about 3/4ths of the flavors of Hinduism.
Ars Paulina. Enochian.
Not seeing anything about it.
"In true religion there is no sect."
Keyword being "true".
I always figured that they all emerge from the same sources in different manifestations, practical magick being very simply as Crowley outlined. The difference being between magick and non-magick being intention, the skill of the practitioner based on how effective changing the universe in accordance with the will is.
Conor McGregor knocking a motherfucker out in the first ten seconds of a match and calling it beforehand is an example of very strong magick. It doesn't require months of LBRP, but whatever gets you going.
I like the mantle Scientific Illuminism the best.
No, I never interact with anyone in these threads...
Dude, just ask your damn question.
There's evokatory material scattered all over my beginner's folder, and just about everywhere else too, though Grimoires probably has a larger concentration than the others.
Smasana kali + kal bhairav = ganesha, theoretically. Imo it doesnt truly matter who you worship in what form, and who you call the source. If you believe ganesh is the source, you may just aswell worship jesus as ganesha- they both come from the same source and share the same essence
I have no frame of reference for Ganesha worship and I've told you this once already.
>implying Surya's not an aspect of Shiva
I'd call you a pleb, but you know what you are :^)
Actually i wouldnt say so, ganesha is the fruit of shiva and shakti, and not their direct union. Shiva is the union of shiva and shakti (shakti is just the active particle of shiva)
But thats just my opinion, if were talkeing metaphysics
Imo even shit is the union of shiva and shakti, shiva and shakti are everything.
>implying something (like, I dunno, reality) being illusory is undesirable
Bro, do you even emulate the Lord of the Trident?
In seriousness for a moment, though, I always appreciated the Saivist notion that maya was the supreme sorcery from which Shiva wove the fabric of reality, making it not only as pure as all else, but also a force to be harnessed and controlled in sorcery.
Senpai youre not going crazy. You are feeling true bhakti - true devotion. This will lead you to yoga. Just dont let yourself loose it - offer ganesha your sheep :) (think about what it symbolizes)
Just maybe dont go out and tell your friends about it - they might think you are crazy. But they are talking from the prrspective of duality - of samsara. You are reaching higher, unless all tantriks are crazy and the others are normal.
Also, the material world IS real - it is ganesh/shiva afterall, but duality in it is merely illusionary.
Ofcourse maya is real, and can be desirable. But it is illusion to believe it to be in any way seperate from shiva. Thats what i meant. In the way that al is shiva, to say that surya being manifestation of shiva = sun worship is not correct.
I have another question. How important are mantras in praying to a deity ? Is it okay to just close your eyes and get lost in the brilliance of the deity ? And what's the drug like happiness you feel after meditating ? It felt so abnormal. I am never this content.
So my friend used to practice some amount of the arts, but has recently stopped due to life choices. Would it be wrong of me to ask him to teach me what he knows before he decides to throw it away?
Depends. From the perspective of a buddhist tantrik the mantras are only important if you cant get lost in the pure brilliance of the deity. From a hindu perspective - they are also a sort of thanksgiving to the deity and thus a bit important. But once the realization of the fact that you are the deity and through worshipping it you worship yourself, mantra is secondary. And also, mantra stimulate spiritual fire (bhuta agni) which makes your system prepared for kundalini and energetic growth. And me personally, i found that they intensify that happyness i get.
And no theres no explenation i found for the drug like effect of meditation. I frequently cry, or more so tears roll down my cheecks from the hapoyness.
Oh my god. You know what I am talking about. It feels like the gods smile upon you. It never happens in any formal place of worship. If only I could pray to Ganesha without people breaking my flow
The ones that look interesting. I personally don't like my beginner's folder despite assembling it. It comes from various /x/ infographics. I'm of the opinion that there's too much ground to cover to waste time on "babby's first" material.
>he's so emotionally damaged that saline leaking from the eyes is considered pathetic
Hardcore, m8. I used to firewalk when I was younger but it's been a long damn time.
If you mean disciplinary practices, I'd say, from that folder, Bardon's IIH, Middle Pillar, Raja Yoga, Hatha Yoga, or Aryeh Kaplan's Jewish Meditation.
If you're looking for non-disciplinary practice like direct evokation, Crowley's Magick in Theory and Practice (toward the back), Liber Null & Psychonaut, Agrippa's Three Books plus the stuff in the Grimorie folder.
The most practical stuff I can think of is chaos magick. Read Liber Null & Psychonaut, it's one file in the beginners folder.
We must not let emotions or passions overtake us. Such things cloud judgment and prevent one from seeing the world as it is. Crying is a physiological feature of a psychological condition which shows that someone is overcome with their emotions or passions. It's simply bad form and is not helpful while doing anything at all, especially meditation.
Yes, thanks for posting material on Stoicism I've gone through long ago. I dig the Epicureans, thanks, hell I'll even take Cynicism.
>From the day Zeno became Crates’s pupil, he showed a strong bent for philosophy, though with too much native modesty to assimilate Cynic shamelessness. Hence Crates, desirous of curing this defect in him, gave him a potful of lentil-soup to carry through the Ceramicus; and when he saw that Zeno was ashamed and tried to keep it out of sight, Crates broke the pot with a blow of his staff. As Zeno began to run off in embarrassment with the lentil-soup flowing down his legs, Crates chided “Why run away, my little Phoenician?”, “nothing terrible has befallen you.”[
Hey, astrotheology guy:
>Astrological ceiling from tomb of Queen Hatsheput's vizier Senmut, circa 1478bce. Shows deities of lunar days
>We must not let emotions or passions overtake us.
Said the guy who follows a school founded by a dude so distressed by carrying food in public he ran off embarrassed...doesn't sound very "in control" to me.
Epicureans become satisfied with very little, but once satisfaction has been attained through these means, for what reason would one continue doing philosophy? To be an Epicurean is to admit that you're more interested in relaxing than knowing the truth or learning more. I'm surprised you so readily align yourself with them; they are exemplary of self-absorption and philosophical failure.
Yeah, fire kills firez lust fire kills spiritual fire. Hunger fore is also bad.
Oh no what have i done ;-; should i feel bad now or something?
Youre just wrong, senpai. Nothing else.
I still fail to see how an expression of being overcome with any emotion is pathetic. At the very least it's necessary to experience, because it helps us understand the value of what we are undergoing. At most it can solidify an experiences' outcome and help measure it to other experiences.
Though I'll agree that emotions do muddy the clarity of what we are undergoing, but it's ignorant to say that it's pathetic.
>Said the guy who follows a school founded by a dude so distressed by carrying food in public he ran off embarrassed...doesn't sound very "in control" to me.
Why would I want to 'defeat' it? I like things that other people don't. Others like things I don't. I'm explaining why I think the Stoic tagline is silly, given the guy who founded it couldn't keep his shit together long enough to haul some food down the road.
Sounds like a very "do what I say, not what I do" position, hence why I prefer others.
Theres nothing wrong woth stoicism, but to surpress your emotions is literally bad. You arent just shiva, you arent just void - you are also shakti, energy and creation and emotion. To be unity is to be overcome with emotion and not let anything baffle you - the unity between stoicism and the lack of thereof.
Alsp if you say emotions are bad for meditation you clearly have no idea what youre talking about, ever heard of bhav samadhi?
daily reminder that if youre not a master
you would never achieve anything in occult.
>Let no one ignorant of geometry enter
this was the inscription above the entrance to Plato's academy.
Lol not at all. Astrology and math is not meeded for occultism. Do you even chaos? Do you even literally every system? Astrology is just am addition, a specific flavour people like.
Astrology doesnt control shit, ot may create enviroment but in the end "dont let yourself be controled by stars, but let them warn you"
You are the lord of your own fate, no the fucking stars senpai.
But you're actively making use of a logical fallacy in order to justify your position, which is unacceptable.
By your own admission emotions muddy the clarity of what we are undergoing. Note that I do not claim that the presence of emotion is pathetic (unfortunate, in my opinion, but not pathetic), only that to be overcome by them is. I'd say that a code of values based on emotional response and the tendency for impassioned speech is a weak one with little philosophical merit. Values of actions and qualities of experiences can be judged from a clear-headed perspective, and this is ideal. To deal with emotions so readily leads to bias and impure reasoning, and I believe that actively seeking to behave in such an emotional way is pathetic -- or, at the very least, immature.
I am not a mathematician. I reached a point which is impossible to pass unless youre a mathematician. Im trying to get into mathematics.
you speak more than you should
So your goal in life is to be completly rid of all emotions? Completly clear?
Kill yourself, im serious. Then youll have no emotion and no change.
Thats literally the goal of stoicism
Cynism is the closest to any sort of truth from all the western schools of thought.
Tell me why it's important to deny emotion, to the point of refraining from showing it? Show me how this actually has a psychological benefit.
Show me an Stoic who did actually quell their emotions. One who won't be upset if I slap them in the face over and over and over. You show me that and I won't be looking at a Stoic, I'll be looking at someone who underwent SERE training. Show me a stoic who won't appear disconcerted when I piss in their coke. Show me a stoic who won't flee in embarrassment when I bust open a pot of lentil soup they're carrying with my staff.
My main objection is similar to the objection I have to Buddhist conceptions of Nirvana....show me someone that's attained it.
I'd tend to agree, IJS, it's more important to these Agamic forms of Hinduism than you may think as an Aghori.
>So your goal in life is to be completly rid of all emotions?
As I said, emotions alone aren't pathetic. Perhaps they are even necessary for certain things, like the survival instinct. But it is always preferable to act from a rational perspective rather than one clouded by emotional content.
These things that you speak of come from a fundamental misunderstanding of Brahman, and a refusal to accept the eternal non-dualistic reality which lies just beyond the veil of maya.
Hmm.. You understand well.
This makes it simpler. If being overcome by emotion is immature then it is something to grow from, and cannot be condemned in any way. If it is part of the growing process of attaining understanding then it is to be dealt with by realizations brought by the self.
In any case, being overcome by emotion is simply part of who you are as an individual, and to criticize that part of a person's being is to criticize the person themselves.
I'll be honest, I simply wanted to butt heads and see what you thought of it all. I like your response. Very thoughtful.
Except you fail to understand that brahman is maya and you fail to see its all the same to me. Maya is real, because it is Shiva. Theres nothing but shiva, nothing at all.
Thats like saying you dont believe in air because youve never seen it, tbqh
Why is this clarity so important? Isnt change the only static fact in the universe? The fact that universe is ever changing? Isnt then true stoicism to never be static, and thus be in the static change state?
Not sure if a good thread, but I noticed like 2 days that a symbol id pop up in my Display.
>you did it
>someone else did it
Nobody in my house touch each other computer without permission and we all hate fingers on screen
Anyway, I did draw the symbol as best I could. Used black background otherwise I couldn't see it, for me it looks like a greek symbol for the zodiac signs.
Looks like a random squigly line.
But sincethis is /omg, it must be the sigil of Extroastaniyoth ashtayatt the overlord of the seventh depth of hell, the destroyer of worlds and god of jews (do you REALLY believe they worship a goodie good guy like YhWH?)
Uh, I honestly got more confused. Maybe I should tell a bit of weird paranormal stuff I experienced or it is useless related to it? btw I am Christian but I am pretty neutral to people believing other beliefs/religion if this does mean something.
Well, I guess I will try a thread with it. Hopefully it's just a random thing that appeared on my display or someone else recognize it from somewhere else.
Google reverse image failed me too.
What are the goals of magic and the occult?
What do you seek?
What do you gain?
No ambigous answers like knowledge or power im talking pragmatically. At least elaborate.
I never really took any of this seriously until as of late but ive always been drawn to it. I just keep telling myself its tinfoil shit, and thinking logically it is, but idk mane i just want answers.
This is exactly why I appreciate householder traditions.
It's probably nothing, mate.
>What are the goals of magic and the occult?
Whatever your tradition or particular operation dictates. Everything from union with Godhead, to complete separation from Godhead to tryna get some head.
>What do you seek
Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel, and the Ordeal of the Abyss.
>what do you gain
Everything and nothing, just like any other human endeavor.
This is not a monolithich religion. There is no "First National Church of the Occult", more like various small groups, sometimes nested within larger religions, that use "hidden" or "secret" practices as a part of their methodology.
So what I'm getting from this thread is that Stoicism is the MGTOW of philosophical schools.
The Writing on The Wall, senpai, the answer to the most important question: WHY.
Also your words about math really hurt, Mr Astrotheology. I'm a professional gossiper and I already run circles around my peers in the field, all with help from the good Frater K's amazing library. What a wild ride.
By he way, who's your guru on the topic, Maxwell, or someone more obscure?
Also, if the Big Game is astrotheological in nature, what are we doing with chants and mantras to the various entities, if they are simply representations of the celestial bodies?
I think I did it once.
>On back in my bed
>Likely for 1h, mind clear, no thoughts, no emotion
>Literally did hit a perfect state of peace
>Suddenly my body felt like it was trembling and a "trembling noise" started
>I was with the closed eyes, yet I did feel it blink
>Suddenly I was in front of my house and there was a black woman and an asian young woman
>I was like "wtf, how come I am in front of my house"
>I slowly reached the head of the asian with my finger to poke her, awoke
Not sure if this is Lucid Dream or OBE, it was so realistic I literally didn't knew how to tell if it was all fake or not. Happened only once, though.
ok so let me brief you in and maybe you can make sense of what i experienced.
This guy contacted me, on private chat and told me about my thoughtspace/astral garden, something i myself forgot about long ago. He told me he knew about it and that he needed help (it gets more ridiculous from here on)
He told me that he needs my help to make/develop/create a game/movie that begins in my garden, that will lead him into (memedrumroll.exe) the akashic records. I thought it as a fun experiment and i did it. created the game, made sure to visualize it, performed prana pratishta of Maa into it and created a few egregores to keep it stable. Then i let him in today morning.
He 'played' it and said he found what he wanted, he described almost exactly what i had created with minor inconsistencies. I was amazed.
I was meditating and doing a bit of prnayama a few seconds ago and i noticed some changes to the way i exerience it usually. I didnt feel the connection to Maa i do almost every time i evoke her, i couldnt feel the enrgy during invoking shiva, and i felt weird shit around my anahata/manipura.
did i get astraly raped and my energy system = fucked ;-;
and yes, i do realize this sounds incredibly retarded
That was a joke right?
>implying you have the ability to act perfectly rationally
> i do realize this sounds incredibly retarded
kek. several more weeks of winter for it
Just to be clear here, he asked you to do something, you did it, then he described you doing what he had previously asked, and now you're feel anxious about it?
He didnt specify what the game was to look like. I made it all up myself. Andthenhe told me specificly what i created - it was unguessable, i made it specificly so it wasnt something he could guess through analyzing me.
Do you mind using skype? Cause pic related happened
Don't worry about it. Ape here sans muh trip.
If I were you I'd just banish a few times. That or seriously clean yourself out with some contemplative yoga toward cleansing yourself of all influence or reestablishing the tie to Maa and Shiva.
For the most part, you should have any severance with Godforms after AP. Usually. Us ceremonials usually take care of it by liberal use of various banishing rituals.
Evoke Bhairava and call me in the morning.
Call you in he morning? What?
Anyhow ill evoke bhairava again but the problem is o have trouble with it, if i were to describe the change in feeling it would be getting a hug from the entire universe before, to ignored now kek.
But he left my thoightspace only a few hours back so
Anyhow i banished my astral thoughspace through replacing it with Shiva Nataraja incase he left anything there or opened anything there. Anything left is being instantly nullified. I feel slightly better but still theres tension in throat chakra ;-;
Might be strain from inviting a foreign energy onto my nadi system? Shit happens when i invoked godforms to the extent of giving up my body to them, but it never fucked up my system to this extent where i lost quite a bit of progress.
and who are you?
Just some guy you might hear more from in the future. I am observing this little circle jerk for a long time now and at first I was very unpleased with your sharing of knowledge.
I have used the names Frater Z, Frater Thor and an Luciferi in the past and am active in more than just one active group.
People, I have a couple of questions for you.
Any serious Enochian practitioner here? I'm wondering if the table is really necessary or you could use a substitution. I read DuQuette Enochian Magick some time ago, and he detailed the specific materials, I was planning adapting some of them.
Anyone have some webpages, archives, whatever, full of occult images, mostly symbols if possible.
32rd is a degree of some sort of mystical, quabbalistic school.
Well if you are a fellow Thelemite then feel greeted. I, personally wear a mask whenever I go there. The abbey is in us. Could you give me a credible name you use?
Different anon. Is there any theory on how this process of identification works? Obviously a singular form isn't for everyone, and I understand seeing the One in all, but I'd like to hear a summary of some sort, different views. Karma as an explanation is enough for me to understand it completely on one level, but I still have doubts on others.
For example, how does one identify said being as True? Jhana on the matter excluded. I have one I identify with, but his motives are as outwardly dubious as the sensation I get from other, more traditionally godly emanations. Yet he is the only one I feel any sense of compassion for. Might be pity, but either way, it's the rare time I ever get any mystic stirrings.
No, that wasn't me. Though I'm guessing you aren't the person I was chatting with. Pity I had wanted to find out if he ever got his books translated onto the US market.
And no, not a thelemite, I just enjoy the conversation from time to time.
I just dislike people going mad over stuff that wasn't meant for them. This is the stuff you do with a certain leadership, not just on your own!
I can translate its core to you if you tell me what it was. It is very likely I read it if it is in German, French or English.
If I had the good sense to get the names of the books I wouldn't be worried about finding the author. Appreciate the offer though.
Also magic is like sex, the only test is the practical one.
Much to my disappointment, and despite so much of this information being freely available on-line for the past 25 years; the world has failed to end, the old ones haven't risen from their slumber to bring madness and horror to the world of man, and society hasn't broken down to the point where leather clad big breasted women are racing down the ruined streets in modified dune buggies. So I'd say it's pretty safe. If it's not meant for someone they'll take a look, shrug, and be about their day.
While I seriously doubt he truly did anything, may I suggest a different approach?
Invoke the corresponding deities to the parts of the body and have them enthroned therein.
This should regulate properly everything and replace and refine anything that's really needed.
It need not be a detailed and long invocation of each.
or you know, just invoke yourself as the highest.
weird experiences as a kid, weird sensations when meditating. And the belief that someone, somewhere had to have all this figured out. I was wrong btw, but I learned a lot of interesting things while finding out I was wrong.
I've seen this and wondered is it possible to be possessed by a God using this technique and thereby gain godlike powers?
tfw you just want to be a God.
What do you guys know about Abaddon?
In my research there is very little in relation to him that I can find. Some people believe he his an entity while others believe "Abaddon" to simply be the name of the pit.
What have you guys found, if anything? This demon greatly interests me for a reason I can't explain. I just heard his name one day and have searched high and low for information on him ever since. Is that just human curiosity or something different?
Define? You should probably whip up an altar table but the Great Table is probably unnecessary provided you're not working GD.
Does Silcharde exclusively come from Grimorum Verum or is the Pact of Urbain Grandier indicative of an older tradition?
If it was published, it's meant for ALL eyes.
Read Revelation again, he's an angel in charge of the swath of locusts, not unlike Samael's the angel of death.
Experimentation with the techniques. Keep going for the last over ten years now. Higher education has not divested me of these practices.
Bump? C'mon, folks, better get in that yoga before Resh so you can carry Sol's gnosis with you for the rest of the day :3
Mirin Dajo is the only person i know who could perform super human feats while NOT being in trance, but he also died doing his last performance. There are videos of him on youtube.
I am interested in hearing more about tara maa if you feel like sharing.,
Well Tara Maa is form of Adi Shakti. We dont worship Adi Shakti directly because, well, imagining her is out of grasp of the human mind. Adi Shakti id the creative force of the universe. She creates ojt of the need to identify with something. This began when she seperated from Sadasiva (nonduality, union of siva and shakti) and thus lost her true identity, and began creation. She manifests in all beings, and in human beings she is the reason you have an ego, and identity. The thing is thiugh, when shakti doesnt identify with herself but something she created, she looses her sense of being and doesnt realize she is not constrained by any thing. That unlimited power, is called kundalini, and more specifically Cit Kundalini, which rests down around your ass kek.
Even though shakti manifests in you, siva does too. The two are only illusionarily seperate, and your siva is the thiughtspace. Your conciousness - that is siva. Siva is the shaktiman - controler of shakti. Once union of siva and shakti happens then - well the. You merger woth the absolute. So far so good?
Following so far. Not that far off from wilson's "I in the triangle" material
So that was the explanation of the absolutes, adi shakti and adi shiva, the two primordial forces (shiva is technically not a force, he is passive, shakti is his active counterpart)
Now, the worship in tantra is done through giving those gods form. The most basic is Shiva and Durga. Durga manifested herself to kill a demon. She is the goddes of victory, of war, in the vedic sense, but as the consort of shiva she is the rebirth, creation aspect whilst shiva is the god of death and destruction (E D G Y). Durga manifested the goddes kali, which is another popular mahavidya - the 10 main forms of shakti. Kali represents death, time and change, in the active sense. Her consort is Mahakala, the lord of death, but in the passive aspect. Kali is also regarded as goddes of rebirth as through death she prepeares you for yet another birth. And now we come down to Tara, my personal favorite. Tara manifested from durga when Shiva saved the world by drinking a poison that was drowning every other god. He became unconciouss and was about to die but Tara manifested and frd him her breast milk which saved him. She is the ultimate mother, the mother of all beings. She also has the aspect of kali in which she is the goddes of change, for example in the form of ugratara or smashan tara. She shares many epithets with kali, and thus they seem to be related more closely than just through the fact of being shakti. taras consort is arguably mahakala or bhairava a but any shiva will do.
Gods have such strange genealogies.
Don't have that particular volume. It appears to only be $5 on amazon though. If you make a scan feel free to share and I'll pass it around.
Here's a link to the currently uploading gilbert folder
Check back over the next few days and I'll add material that covers the same topic as the companion to that folder
Any of you have experience with homa/yajna? Im thinking of starting to practice it as a way to purify my elements but i never got the initiation to it :< anyone got some experience?
I hope yall go mad over what you will discover.
My personal recommendations: Liber al Vel Legis, Magick in theory and practice, All about Freemasonry, all about Alchemy.
No, the term is used this way for a purpose. If you think there is no trigger motivation behind this, then you don't understand how hypnosis works. You will not understand the book.
And that would be a good thing because Crowley does these weird little things to conceal his wisdom from others.
> he convinced himself adding 'k' to 'magic' is deep hypnotist secret wisdom
the word magic comes from the mage which comes from the mogh ( the iranian zorvani preists). if your mother tongue is english you probably cant pronounce that word and you would say mog instead of its actual sound. the most important mage is said to be :
i should also add this wiki page has disinfo in it
I'd love to see the occult approached from a more mathematical angel. Something that goes beyond the typical "count up the value of the letters guys!"
Where do you recommend starting?
If it matters: I have a bs with high marks in math. I took a couple classes of astronomy as well, but it's been a few years.
Also, kind of surprised you didn't include physicist in there, but whatever.
read A Little Book of Coincidence and watch this video:
there are people who waste 40 years in magic and never learn what the secret diagrams actually depict. the video above would kickstart you. also my reading list:
Astral Worship - J. H. Hill
Astrological World Cycles - Tara Mata (Laurie Pratt)
Astrotheology & Shamanism - Christianity's Pagan Root - Jan Irvin & Andrew Rutajit
Astro-Theology and Sidereal Mythology
Celestial Dynamics, A Course of Astro-Metaphysical Study
Cicero - On the Nature of the Gods Academics - H. Rackham
Hesiod and Theognis - Dorothea Wender
Lost Star of Myth and Time - Walter Cruttenden
Porphyry's Against the Christians - The Literary Remains - R. Joseph Hoffman
Ruins or Meditations on the Revolutions of Empires and the Law of Nature
- C. F. Volney
Stellar Theology & Masonic Astronomy - Robert Hewitt Brown
The Astrological Foundation of the Christ Myth - Book 1 - Malik H Jabbar
The Astrological Foundation of the Christ Myth - Book 2 - Malik H Jabbar
The Astrological Foundation of the Christ Myth - Book 3 - Malik H Jabbar
more in next post
The Astrological Foundation of the Christ Myth - Book 4 - Malik H Jabbar
Dance of the Zodiac - Rhythms and Patterns of Creation - William Schreib
Christ in Egypt - The Horus-Jesus Connection - D.M. Murdock
Celsus on the True Doctrine - A Discourse Against the Christians
- R. Joseph Hoffman
Jesus and the Lost Goddess - The Secret Teachings of the Original Christians
- Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy
Lost Light - An Interpretation of Ancient Scriptures - Alvin Boyd Kuhn
Ovid Matamorphoses - Charles Martin
Plutarch Moralla Volume V - Frank Cole Babbitt
Plato - The Complete Works - John M. Cooper and D.S. Hutchinson
Terabiblos - Claudiun Ptolemy
The Light of Egypt, The Science of the Soul and Stars - Thomas H. Burgoyne
The Phenomena and Diosemia of Aratus (1848) - Aratus John Lamb
The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors - Christianity Before Christ - Kersey Graves
Who is the King of Glory? - A Study of the Christos Messiah Tradition - Alvin Boyd Kuhn
Ancient Egypt - The Light of the World - Gerald Massey