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Eternal darkness edition

New? Check the pastebin for advice on getting started with PTCGO, deck building tips, current metagame information and more
>http://pastebin.com/AK9ZJksJ

You can also check this FAQ (it's a bit outdated but mostly holds true):
>http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games) to get 45 free packs
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter Standard/Expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.

>WHAT THEMEDECK SHOULD I BUY
Buy the fucking Incineroar one

Deck Building resources
>http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/
>http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/state-province-championships-2016/decks/week-four/
>http://thecharizardlounge.com/decklists/

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. Top Cut & other big trading companies will typically overprice cards, expect to get lower. Keep pack value in mind when trading.
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/33-in-game-item-exchange/
>http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Don't just post it as plain text, bots may snatch them, don't post uncovered QRs, bots may snatch them
>Standard etiquette is to take one code per dump per person
>Always post your pulls

Previous >>32022385
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>>32047372
When they release more full art trainer cards with characters of alola?? I need Olivia, Lusamine or at least some Npc.
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>>32047419
When those characters get trainers. We know at least Mallow is getting a card and likely a FA in the next expansion but most of the cards they've been revealing are pokemon so far.
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THANK YOU DADDY DARKRAI
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>play M Mewtwo
>vs Yveltal/Garb
>he beefs up his active Yveltal and one in bench
>get out Shrine of Memories and 2 Psychic energies on active M Mewtwo
>he Ns and Evil Ball for 170
>I attatch DCE, Lysandre his Shaymin and Damage Change
>he attatches an energy and attacks for 190
>VS Seeker into Lysandre to his benched Float Stone Tauros
>Damage Change
>forfeits

I'm gonna miss Lysandre and VS Seeker.
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>>32047427
Ok, thanks friend.
I'm in love with those class of cards. Specially when they have the Megumi Mizutami art.
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>>32047521
Lysandre is a good effect, vs seeker is not because it makes running Lysandre (and basically any supporter) as just a 1 or 2 of too cost effective. Just had a game against M-Alakazam where he chained 3 Lysandres into my Donphan deck, and I ended up winning the game with my fourth Donphan by Lysandreing an injured megazam back out. Too many of my games just come down to who gets a VS seeker first lategame, I really should have lost that game.
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>castform in SM2
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>>32047602
>Megumi Mizutami art.
Correction, Megumi Mizutani's art
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http://www.pokebeach.com/2017/03/guardians-rising-theme-decks-hidden-moon-steel-sun-their-lists

>Energy Loto
>Rescue Stretcher
What will these do? Place your bets.

Also sick coins.
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>>32047654
>rescue stretcher

Scoop up style card

>energy loto

Maybe a misspelling of energy lotto, some coinflip shit card involving energy.
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>>32047761
>energy loto

>Maybe a misspelling of energy lotto, some coinflip shit card involving energy.

Exactly my thoughts, I hope its for stage 1 or 2 non EX Pokemons or something like that.
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>>32047621
Be sure to post it in next TCG art thread!
I'll be sure to post something new next time arourd!
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if i buy a theme deck irl can i put a code in so i can use it online?
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>>32047914
Yeah, all paper products come with codes except for the WCS decks since those cards aren't legal anyways.
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>>32047935
cool. does that include packs as well? and if so, do i get the cards in the pack, or just a pack in-game?
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>>32047957
You get a code for a booster of that set, boosters are generated when you click open pack so no, it's not the same cards.

If it was that would be bad though because then you couldn't buy codes online, nobody would sell codes that had good pulls. Right now codes for like $0.10-$0.99 per pack depending on set, which of course is way less than actual paper packs which is great for online only players.
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>>32047974
yeah that makes sense. where do you buy codes?
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>>32048004
ebay, amazon, most online card shops have some, some card stores will have stacks of them for sale.

Beware of listings that have shit like 'HUGE MIXED LOT OF 200 PACKS ROARING SKIES ECT' since these are usually 70% evo/fates collide packs with like 4-5 roaring skies.
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Was anyone around for this nonsense?

Also, the art and holo here is so comfy
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>>32048086
Yeah. I have that card.
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>>32048086
Don't know why they didn't just errata the card in an unlimited print. Fucking stupid. Also while the original cosmic foil is always fun to look at, the art is lackluster: it's just the regular stock photo pasted onto a generic background. Which is the case for pretty much all the artworks except for typhlosion (17).
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>>32048204
Yeah, Neo Genesis was a meh set, and the meta that babyshit created was incredibly annoying.
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>>32048269
Going through my old cards is always kinda fun. Still remember how happy I was to pull my first Charizard. Never used any of them. I gave my friend a Seel that was touching the Charizard for good luck and he pulled a Charizard out of his next pack.
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Anyone who played during the base era will appreciate this wonderful page
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>>32048086
Oh dear God, it was awful. Fortunately not that many people owned Slowking locally.

>>32048204
They probably thought the concept of errata was too hard for kids to understand.
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>>32047462
fucking moron.
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>>32047372
I've been using darkrai since 2012 so what the hell
Thank you daddy Darkrai
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I'm gonna get back into paper collecting and possibly play. This look like a good starter shopping list?

Battle Arena Decks: Keldeo v Rayquaza
Battle Arena Decks: Kyurem v Kyurem
Guardians Rising ETB

And probably a big D-ring binder with new pages because my old c-ring's pages are falling apart after ~20 years and c-rings suck anyways. I'll probably grab a blister or two of SM cards later in the week cause I'm getting a shitload of money for the privilege of watching a pack of 12 Labradors for a week.
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>>32048291

>Not Movie Promo Electabuzz instead

Off yourself.
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>>32048792
>unplayable shit card that 1/4th of all children in the western world got

widely distributed promos suck ass from a collector's perspective and it wasn't a good card competitively either. I have the other 3 movie promos and the promo Mew, but not that one. Some kid offered to trade it to me for one of my league promo Marills but I turned him down.
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>price cards for deck
>decide to sleep on it to see if I really want them
>all the cheap ones are gone when I wake up
This happens way more than it should.
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>>32048467
fucking moron number two.
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Best deck for grinding the ladder quickly?
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>>32049643
either fast win/lose memes like Typhlosion or obnoxious lock decks that make people quit fast like trev lock.
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>>32047372
Thank you daddy Darkrai
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Thank you daddy Darkrai
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Thank you daddy Darkrai
just so this bitch >>32049459 can give me a (You)
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>>32047372
Thank you daddy Darkrai
Help me win a tourney daddy
I need you daddy
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>>32047372
Thanks dad.
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>>32047372
Thank you daddy Darkrai
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>>32047372
Thank you daddy Darkrai
Let me draw Passimians
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>samefagging this hard
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Thank you daddy Darkrai
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>>32047372
Thank you daddy Darkrai
>>32049797
Who's samefagging?
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>>32047654
>Rescue Stretcher

Pokemon Tool:
Whenever your active Pokémon is attacked, you may switch it with the Pokémon this card is attached to before applying damage or any other effects.

>Energy Lot(t)o

Item:
Flip a coin until you get tails. For each heads, search your deck for a basic energy card, reveal it, and put it in your hand.
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Thank you daddy Darkrai
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>>32047604
I agree, VS Seeker makes most decks have about the same set of supporters, you don't really need to focus on any strategy since you can run 1 or 2 of anything and still get to use 4 times if you need.

When most decks run 4 of the same card, there is clearly a balancing issue with it. If VS Seeker gets reprinted, it should become an Ace Spec.
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Thank you daddy Darkrai
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Thank you daddy Darkrai
posting best eevee
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>>32050163
That rescue stretcher would almost completely kill EXs with safeguard carbink and that energy lotto is worse than professor's letter.
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>>32047820
Ok man! Thanks again. I will visit this thread in the future for sure.
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Thank you daddy Darkrai
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>beating good ladder decks with a deck wizard deck

Thank you Glaceon EX
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>get turn 1 item lock on some guy
>he stays in
>he refuses to give up
>thinks he won when he pulls my float stoneless vileplume in and I have all of my deck's energy on the field
>just N myself when my deck is at 0, his deck is at 4
>spam well played as he mills himself to death
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>>32050477
>so I was being a faggot and then I was an even bigger faggot
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>>32050477
are you the same idiot from yesterday
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>>32051015
who is the bigger fag, the guy who plays an item lock deck or the guy who actually sits and endures playing against an item lock deck after turn 1 lock comes down in such a low stakes environment?

If he was a gentleman he would have just left the game on turn 1 and saved us both time.
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>>32051062
The guy playing the item lock, not even a contest
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>>32051062
>If he was a gentleman
Like you are I'm sure
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Is it just me, or did the vs wheel not reset? They fucked something up because of spring forward, didn't they?
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>>32051062

Item lock guy.
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>>32051312
doesn't reset until 5 apparently.
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>>32051312
Five days left
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Can you only do a single trainer challenge a day? If I do more I don't get any rewards, no score for the stars and no card unlock
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>>32051363
>>32051141

If they didn't remove genting I wouldn't have to play item lock decks to grind out the last bit of vs points in a time effective manner.
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>>32051377
You need to play with different decks. You only get 1 star per deck.
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>>32051381
I miss Night March it was the best for grinding the ladder
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>>32051062
>If he was a gentleman he would have just left the game on turn 1 and saved us both time
>letting me win is being a gentleman
>wanting someone to give you a free win
This is why your kind is scum.
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Anyone else really dislike the GX card aesthetics compared to EXs?
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>>32051579
I think they look better generally, as long as they're cleanly designed and the move text is easily read
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>>32051579
the FAs tend to look terrible.
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>>32051649
Although this is true, the old FAs looked much better, the new ones look a bit flat and uninspired
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>>32051062
I thought people who play lock decks liked annoying matches.

If I were him, I'd play painfully slow.
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>>32051381
>They are forcing me to actually play to earn points
>They are wrong
Playing the game is not mandatory. If getting points became a chore, just quit.
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>>32050275
Energy Lotto would be Iworse most of the times, but not always. It could give you more than 2 when you are really lucky. Hence, lotto.
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>>32050275
Carbink is dying after GXs. I could see they doing something like that just to shift the meta totally away from EXs.

It would be funny to see Yveltal drop to shit tier with the release of a single card, though.
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>>32047372
>have a shit time with volcanion
>decide to pull out my shitty gengar noivern deck
>destroy Darkrai decks everytime
Thank you daddy Gengar
Who here /antimeta/
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>>32051920
The chances of it giving more than two are 12.5%. It has a 50% chance of giving fuck-all. It's worse than Professor Oak's Letter and no one playing ti will find it useful.
It should be "flip three coins, then search your deck for a number of energy cards equal to the number of heads and add them to your hand. Shuffle your deck afterwards."
That way there chance of a crit fail is 12.5%
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>>32052265
I don;t understand how Gengar/Noivern can bat Darkrai.
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I've played the TCG in real life a couple times, and I have a decent understanding of it.

Is the online TCG any fun? Can I run it on a Mac?
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>>32052430
Yes.
Nothing does.
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>>32052291
50% chance of no damage being done on Noivern. Boomburst sets up gengar threat and easy 1hko with Noivern Synchro Woofer. Once this is done, you just trade prize cards at a ratio of 2:1 and you win easy.
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>>32052457
Ah, got it.
I saw a similar Espeon/Gengar thing which seems more consistent, you only need to run psychic energies and Espeon self-searches.
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>>32052521
Yeah that god tier noivern isn't standard anymore but espeon gx is a great substitute. People at my locals just sort of play standard meta decks with expanded trainers.
I play espeon-gx online
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>>32052631
Yeah, when I looked up "Noivern TCG" I just clicked the standard one because that's what I thought you were talking about, wondering wtf hand size had to do with shit.
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>>32052631
>standard meta decks with expanded trainers
Can't you completely trounce them with a real expanded deck, or does your locals use an odd standard/extended hybrid format?
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>>32052670
Most of the top tier expanded decks use mostly standard pokes.
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>>32052273
That's better, I agree.

I only sugested the other way because it would make it more luck driven, as the name sugests.

Maybe removing the "basic" energy restriction would make it playable.
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>>32052670
My locals doesn't abide by any format, everything from Base Set 1 to current is legal, which I hate. I really wish we could do Standard, but they keep it unlimited because of all the little kids that play there. The only other places to play are an hour away, so I don't have much of a choice.
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>>32052738
VirGen with babies sounds amazing.
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>>32052454

damn, this TCGO shit is pretty fun. I have a ton of Sun/Moon and Roaring Skies codes from buying boxes. Would I be able to make a deck from those? Also, do people normally do the Daily Challenges?
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>>32052738
Do they use anything that is a threat, though?

I mean, if they don't really know what they are doing, they won't take advantage of everything that can be done in unlimited.

As long as people do not abuse BST or Super Energy Removal, it can still be fun.
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>>32052824
Yeah easy. Roaring skies are worth 1.5 sun and moon packs.
http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html

>Daily challenges
I don't because i just prefer to get the versus queue rewards. Though I probably should idk.
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>>32051579

I definitely agree with you on this. A handful of the GX cards look quite nice, but the vast majority of them look pretty awful in my opinion.
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>>32047372
*blocks your path*
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I just won a tournament with it, confirmed best Mewtwo EX counter
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>>32051381

>I wouldn't have to play item lock decks to grind out the last bit of vs points
>I wouldn't have to.........grind out the last bit of vs points

Seriously, why are you doing this? Why are you so desperate to pick up fairly mediocre ladder prizes? Trading is so much more time effective than actually grinding the ladder for stuff. You trade until you have enough to buy whatever you need, then you play the game for FUN.

If you're playing with the sole intention of making your opponent forfeit on turn 1 so you can get ladder points, why even bother with the game at all? You'll get some stuff, but you won't have much chance to use it before the next ladder (and those big meanies at TPCi will be forcing you to item lock for another 3 weeks).
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>>32052878
>1.5

I still get closer to 2 SM value out of them. But yeah, the most expensive card you need is Shaymeme and a pair of those is like 50 packs or so. Basically everything else except for bling is in the 0.5-5 pack range.
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how should I go about making decks if Im new to PTCGO? Just redeem as many fucking codes as possible and go from there? I have so many codes from random XY sets and RS that I could fucking bathe in them
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>>32052997
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>>32052997

u wot m8?
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>>32053099
1) Find deck you like.
2) Redeem codes
3) Mark packs as for trade
4) Trade for deck
ezpz
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>>32053099
Make a list, redeem codes, trade for them, use trade companies as a base for value, keep in mind they overprice cards so you can get them for less.
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>>32053143
>>32053193

sooo redeem codes for packs, but dont actually open the packs up? Once I redeem the codes can I trade the unopened packs for cards I want?
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iirc, tomorrow hs triumphant rotates back into legacy rewards. What deck should I run (no virgencel or weavile)?
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>>32053214

Yep, packs are currency.
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>>32053237
>running anything other than virgen in legacy

legacy is actually a really bad format. I wanted to like it and even invested in a deck to play it, but it's stale as fuck and will never, ever change.
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I just got a set of hypnotoxics and 2 virbanks for about 6 packs of value together. What's the most memecore laserbank deck I can run in expanded?
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>>32053398
>Virgen

Not even close to the best deck. If you're running more than one Virizion your deck is bad.
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>>32053552
you don't need more than 1, celebi prime and genesect are the bigger deals in that deck, people just call it virgen because it sounds funny and because that's what the expanded deck was called.
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>>32052265
Gengar shits on all ex decks desu. My worst matchup with Gengar is against golduck though.
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Will the XY sets be legal for Legacy when they all rotate out or will it forever be the same stale, boring no change format?
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why is it whenever i get an urge to play this game the servers are offline
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What's legitimately the best deck in the format right now? Which one do you have the best shot at winning an event with?
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>>32054389
There is no best deck.
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>>32054389
The whole standard format is a game of scissor paper rock.
It's so refreshing coming in from MTG. I love it so goddamn much.
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>>32051062
Both are equally retarded in different ways
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>>32053413
get that toxicroak that cant be damaged by anything poisoned
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Can you use a card from a rotated set in Standard if it's been reprinted? Like Yveltal XY08 and Yveltal XY150
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>>32054917
Yes.
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>>32054917
No, it is illegal to possess old card art
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Eeveelutions Legacy Deck, good or bad idea?
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Hey

that dude with the bad pulls again
I bought a gengar tin and got one holo out of it
I guess thats okay

enjoy the codes I guess be sure to take one only please ok bye see ya
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>>32055155
Thanks. Not too bad.
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>>32048614
Just get 2*$25 keldeo arena deck and buy 2*$3 manaphy, 1*$8 glaceon, 3*$4 lapras gx, and 4*$2 max elixir.

Cheap waterbox deck. Shaymin need not apply but it would make it better. The octilary in the arena deck should do.

Also, never buy a booster pack that is over $2. You can get a booster box for $70 whenever those ebay coupons pop up. Otherwise you are just throwing money away.
Keeping one trainer box is fine but don't pay retail. They are usually $30 less any coupons.
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>>32054389
Plume/Decidueye
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>>32055338
>more than one manaphy
MADMAN
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>>32055438
inb4 both are prized
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How much is a FA sycamore worth? Is the ou7c4st value correct for like 10 packs? Just opened one up and idc about art just want good cards
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>>32055796
$15-$20 IRL, 1 dollar/pack seems to be the average rate on TCGO.
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Is there anything really good from these sets that make them worth opening, or should i just trade them for shaymemes?
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>>32055844
>or should i just trade them for shaymemes?
The answer is always yes.
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>>32055886
I did the exact opposite of what you said
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>>32056086
that luck though
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>>32056086
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>>32056086

Trade me that N.
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Will FoGP get banned before worlds? Ive found decidueye/vileplume to be far too broken to be considered properly competitive. You may as well just scoop any time they get plume out. Even if you go first and get garb out its still too easy for them to rek it and when that happens you lose. Its not worth the time or effort to try and win
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>>32056250
What are you gonna give me faget
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>>32053052

Hello Blacksmith, my old friend. )=
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>>32056327
2 primal clash, 3 evolutions, 10 fates collide
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>>32056342
Add 4 more evolutions and you got a deal
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>>32056361
no thanks lowballing scum
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>>32054184
They said when it was set up that they wouldn't change it, but the company can do whatever they wish
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>>32056300
We can only hope.
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>>32056300
gentle reminder that they designed the new trev to be abused with vileplume and fogp.

tcpi tacitly expresses support for this god awful style of play.
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>>32057982
I'm farming trainer challenges and I dread getting those packs. Even the EX suck
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>>32058029
Dragonite EX is useful in some decks. But overwhelmingly, the useful pokemon in that set are cheap and easy to find. Rats, Starmie, electrode, ect.
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Getting tired of those Vileplume decks. Can I have my Charizard/Entei deck back please?
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>>32058052
/trash/
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>>32058047
No. Volcanion is the only good fire deck.
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How do I break it to my friend that Despair Ray is better than Brilliant Arrow if he is willfully ignorant
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>>32058110
brilliant arrow is basically slower darkrai with a worse matchup against megatwo

despair ray is also kind of bad atm because of Tauros, it just has to push too hard to get an OHKO on it and can't trade effectively with it if you go for 2HKOs.

gardevoir in general is basically dead and will be 100% dead at rotation.
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>Reeninja BREAK is dead
>70% win rate in 100 games
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>>32058347
>run into decidumeme/vileplume deck or vileplume/lurantis and instalose with literally zero recourse unless they get literally the worst shuffle possible and you get the best one

of course you can still ladder with it, but don't dream of bringing it to an event ever again.
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Cards that turn your dick to diamonds
>can instakill any poke that isn't GX for 3 energy
>Attack keeps opponent from healing
>Send out scattershot Mewtwo EX and mega Mewtwo Y with Lunala's psychic transfer ability and you basically have the apocalypse incarnate.
>Add "le maymay hammer :^)" for extra dominance.
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>>32058381
*blocks your path*
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>People unironically thinking PCL did a good job with Sun & Moon
>A gigantic 33 cards at Ultra-Rare or higher, making the set a nightmare for collectors and players alike when it's incredibly difficult to pull a specific thing.
>No new Stadiums or Special Energy cards in a set size of 137 for no good reason.
>Alolan Pokemon benefits were meant to involve free attacks, yet they are all incredibly weak, just like the rest of the card.
>Retreat costs are inflated across the board for no good reason - except for GXes of course. Eevee and Dratini require 2 energy, Parasect, Torkoal and Alolan Grimer require 3, and Boldore is hiked up to 4.
>An abnormally large amount of cards involve coinflip effects, because dumb luck is a great mechanic to insist on using. It's even better when you're literally flipping 4 coins at a time on the outside chance of inflicting damage that isn't completely insignificant.
>Every single non-holo rare without exception is completely useless, as though it isn't bad enough when you get one of these. They were so proud of Stoutland's amazing 3 retreat and CCCC 130 that they couldn't wait to show it us - well over a month before it was released with the rest of the set in Japan. They seriously thought they did a good job and wanted to build up 'hype' for this card.
>Another secret rare Switch and Ultra Ball have been printed purely to artifically inflate pack value and milk money out of collectors.
>Many extremely narrow and gimmicky Trainer cards, some of which got a full art or SR print to make for the ultimate lucksack waste product. Rotom Dex and Ilima are two of the biggest beginner's traps that the PTCG has ever had.
>But of course, PCL refused to print any Trainer card that can discard Tools or Stadiums, because one of the developer's children clearly can't win any games they don't use Garbotoxin in.
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>>32058448
>blaming PCL for the Garbodor problem that exists outside Japan

It's strictly TPCi's fault that the English edition doesn't have any tool removal in format since they didn't do reprints.
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>>32047372

Thank you daddy Darkrai!
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>>32058448
Tool removal was way too strong, I agree we need something better than Ratata, but things like Megaphone push the game to the other extreme, where tools become almost useless.

Now, S&M is a bad set, but since it's trying to slow the game down, it's expected that we need 1 or 2 rotations before most of its cards become playable.

About the rarities issue, yeah, no way to defend that shit, it's ridiculous.
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Instead of complaining about Garbodor, why not just play a deck that doesn't need an ability to function? They can't negate what you don't have.
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>>32058996
but muh meme deck
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>>32058996
But then no one would run Garbs, and then the deck using abilities would reign supreme

I'm just waiting
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>>32058996
I plan for it. I also play a big draw supporter line to do well against item lock. I sometimes tech energy Shitters can't adapt.
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>>32058405
>Implying I'm not blocking your path
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She keeps using recover over and over again even though her Starmie has no damage
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At this rate ill only pull an owl when it loses value.
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>>32059125
tell me more about what the bots in trainer challenge do, i'm too nervous to play them
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>>32059228
They have EX in their decks and cheat
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>>32057823
I just looked it up. That is absolute cancer
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Post yfw BW cards gets rotated out of expanded
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>>32059486

Only for those who spent too much money for a playset of Tropical Beach
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>>32059508
Well eels made top32 in some recent regionals, i expect to see him again with koko.
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What's the hard counter to Lurantis GX?
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>>32059486

When will that actually happen though?
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>>32059941
fire
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Why do theme decks tend to brick so hard so often?
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>>32060121
But what fire deck? Is Volcanion the only option?
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>>32054511
The fuck? What format are you playing and are you a shitter?
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>>32060184
Let me make it more clear, I'm talking about magic. There's always a little rock paper scissors with types of decks in there.
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>>32060128

Because they're very poorly built. Read the links in the OP.
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>>32060128
No draw support
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>>32060128
No Shaymin
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>>32060169
sadly
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>>32060268
Sucks. I traded my Volcanion deck for a MMewtwo deck. Maybe I can try trading back for it
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>>32047372

Fuck off Andrew C. Jackson stop copying shit you find on 4chan and posting it on Virbank City so your cancerous little circlejerk can have le funny meme to laugh at
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>>32060333
>Andrew C. Jackson
Literally who?
>Virbank City
Unironically what?

Don't stress out about it, I'm a bit flattered that someone screenshots this shitposting thread to show their friends

What's the harm?
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I have 30 S/M codes and 30 RS codes. Should I open them or trade them? Want to make a Lunaala deck
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>>32060732
Ill trade you a full art lunala for the RS packs fampai
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>>32060732

Trade with them. RS and SM are the most valuable codes in Standard atm.
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>be stuck on a miserable fire type challenge
>absolutely hate playing volc
>play typhlosion
>lose game after game without getting a KO
>finally have a good starting hand
>push some mega mewtwo kid into a corner
>game disconnects

is there some hidden technique you can do to disconnect your opponent because I literally only DC when I have an advantage. I can't recall a single time that my client crashed or I was disconnected when I was behind.
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Why do so many top decks seem to have this? Just as Ultra Ball fodder? Feels like a waste of a slot, especially with Garbodor stinking up the place.
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Link to this? I need some shaymins
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>>32061207
Sableye is basically the only garb deck, and it isn't exactly popular at the moment. There are other discard outlets that are used sometimes like dowsing machine, comp search, or superior energy retrieval.
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>>32054917
as long as it has the exact same text, then yes. Older Yveltals with Oblivion Wing are usable, yes.
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>>32061209
You can't cheat yourself cards m8, only do things like speedhack the AI.
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>>32061311
Don't lie to the new guys

>>32061209
Link to the cheat engine is in the sticky, PTCGO has issued warnings for card cloning but no bans as of yet that I'm aware of
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>>32061209
Do you think an oficial tcg would allow this level of bullshit?
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lets say I have a lot of packs that I have marked For Trade. How do I acquire a card I want? ie. Lunaala
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>>32061721
Go look up the value of the card at one of the sites in the pastebin, put up a little less value than that for the card on the trading page.
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Why don't they print as many memecards as they used to? The memecards they print like imakuni's doduo are lame compared to these.
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>>32061847
That's not a memecard, that's just a shitty card.
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>>32061841

>just found a stash of 50 or so BKT packs

wew lad, its gonna be a long night
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>>32061879
with memecore art.
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>>32061908

is M Mewtwo X still relevant? Pulled a M Mewtwo Y right afterwards
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>>32061987
I don't think M Mewtwo X was ever relevant, was it?
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>>32062011
Nope
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>>32062011
>>32062019

damn it. How do I search for a card that I want? What is the most efficient way to initiate a trade? Thanks for answering so many questions guys.
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>>32061987
Might be barely playable with solgoleo but otherwise it's trash tier
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>Standart Lugia but expanded Ho-Oh
I mean this one had higher play but feels weird.
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>>32061987

M Mewtwo X was never good, but Raikou's pretty decent atm.
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>>32062077

sweet, think I have a couple of those.

Turns out of I have 45 RS code cards. Should I open a couple of them in hopes of getting Shaymins, or just them all to get the main cards I want?
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>>32062094
>sweet, think I have a couple of those.
The thing says "new" so I doubt it.
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>>32062131
I think it says "NEW!" because it's a holo rare print
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>>32062051

>How do I search for a card that I want?

The best way is to check the set and set number of the exact card you want. Then filter for it in the public offers section. Don't actually accept any of these trades though.

>What is the most efficient way to initiate a trade?

Firstly, check your card's pack value using both the 'I am getting' and 'I am giving' filters. These will likely be overpriced and underpriced bad deals, respectively (as they haven't been claimed). You'll want to make a middle of the road offer which is slightly better than the offers you see. Alternatively, check what a trading company would charge and knock a bit off the price.

Click the button to create a trade and select the card you want in the 'I am getting' bit, with the packs you are offering in the other window (make sure you mark them as being for trade). It will cost you 8 tokens to post an 8 hour offer, but you get these refunded if/when your trade is accepted.
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>>32062094

>Should I open a couple of them in hopes of getting Shaymins

No, don't do this. They are valuable packs, so trade them for what you need.

You should only open trade-locked RS packs (such as those from the shop).
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>>32062195

gotcha. Does Lurantis GX make a good deck? I have three of those now.

Also, pulled a FA Lillie and FA Kukui. Does anyone give a shit about FA trainers in the world of PTCGO?
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>>32062170
How do trade companies make money off TCGO?
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>>32061987
no but raikou is decent and will be pretty good after guardians drops and gives him aether stadium

FFB+shining body+aether conservation area = 210 EHP for a 1 prize card. It'll be sick in expanded, I just wish electric had better energy acceleration than electrode in standard.
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>>32062257
>Does Lurantis GX make a good deck?
Yes, with Solgaleo right now and even better with Tapu Bulu in a month or two.
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>>32062257
Lurantis is a pretty okay card right now, but it'll get really good after Guardians drops and it has a good energy acceleration target in Tapu Bulu.

People do give a fuck about FA trainers but those are low value atm, Lillie isn't that good of a card until we get Tapu Lele in Guardians and Kukui is a decent card but no deck runs more than 2 of them and he's low tier husbando material. I'd definitely hold off on trading Lillie until may since the price will increase then.

The high value FA supporters are N, Sycamore and Lysandre.
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>>32062349

awesome. About to open 30 or so AOR. Anything in there that would have good synergy with Lurantis?
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>>32062391
FOGP, aka the most broken card in the game atm.
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>>32062391
>>32062427
Forest of Giant Plants is what this anon meant to say.
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traded two RS for a Solgaleo GX. Did I get ripped off bros?
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>>32062706
Nah, it's worth about 3-4 packs, and 2 ROS is worth 3-4 value. Fair trade.
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>>32063212

Sweet, pretty much have my Lurantis/Solgaleo deck put together. Just missing some Cosmoems. Also, dont have any Shaymins, and I have 28 ROS left. Wat do?
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>>32063238
Open the ROS and pray to the RNG for Shaymins.
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>>32063284
bad idea, ~20-25 ROS will get you at least one.
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>>32063465
And if you open them all you can get 28.
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>grinding coins for when Guardians Rising comes out

God I hope its a good set.
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>>32063691
>can't play because I have 25k coins and I don't want to spend any before Guardians Rising
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>>32063691
Lele-GX alone makes it the best set since ROS.
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>finish daily challenge
>prompt to pick a new one comes up
>in a tournament and round is starting
>don't get to pick a challenge
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>>32063710

A shame that your brain doesn't function well enough to navigate to the store page.
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how do a level up an energy type in the profile.
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>>32064161
Do the daily challenges
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>buy card on ebay Monday night
>guy messages me and says he won't mail it until Wednesday because of the snowstorm coming
What the fuck. You could've just mailed to me today instead of writing me some excuse.
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Looking at the prices within Australia for some BP trainer card sets and geez are they expensive.

Would it just be better to buy the booster box? What are the odds of getting a playset of cards like max elixir/sycamore/dive ball/ffb etc?
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>>32065439
the odds of pulling a full playset of anything are ass.
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>>32064613

I bought a card on the Saturday before last and afterward the guy sent me a message saying he couldn't send it until the following Friday. He actually ended up sending it a couple of days later than that, on the Sunday (so 8 days after I bought it) and it just arrived today.

I'd held off on leaving bad feedback, in case he made up for it somehow. He did include some pretty cool free cards and now I'm unsure of what to do.
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>decide to pull my first real pack in ~15 years
>get a reverse Hau and Palossand
>pull the online pack
>it's an Oranguru and actually has useful commons/uncommons
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>>32047372
If I have a quest for a type that I don't have a deck for at all, should I buy a theme deck to try and save myself or just durdle around on standard?
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>>32066664
Depends what type it is. I always preferred memeing in standard to legitimately playing theme.
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>>32066717
It's an evolve quest but all I have for it evolution chains are awkward singletons
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>>32066770
evolve quests are always, always best done in standard/expanded. Just fill a deck with pokemon search cards and awkward evolutions.

You should have tons of random shitmons for every type after doing the trainer's challenge and opening all of those free packs. Just use shit like evosoda/wally to search evo cards.
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>Playing Tauros/Decidueye vs Groudon/Wobbufett
>Have active Tauros with 120 damage
>Lysandre into Primal Groudon to go for Mad Bull GX for game
>PTCGO doesn't bring Primal Groudon to active spot
>have two take round about way and KO benched Wobbufett for game

First time something like this happened.
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>>32066948

>He doesn't know about Primal Groudon EX's Omega Barrier which prevents it being brought up by Trainer cards

Not reading/knowing the cards, that's a paddlin'
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>>32066948

m8.
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>>32066973

Oh then whoops my bad.
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>>32066948
>>32066973
>>32066986
>>32066987
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>>32066948
I'm surprised it even lets you use Lysandre there, the game's usually on rails to prevent people who don't read the cards carefully from fucking up.
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>>32067006

Technically you can use Trainers on Pokemon with Omega Barrier, but it would prevent anything done to it. It is like you can attack a Pokemon with Safeguard with an EX Pokemon, but you would deal no damage / effects assuming there are nothing that negates Safeguard
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>>32056300
[Lysandre's Trump Card] has created an undesirable play environment because it:
>Eliminates one of your opponent’s victory conditions (running out of cards in your deck)
>Allows repeated use of powerful Trainer cards
>Allows drawing through your deck quickly with minimal repercussions
>Extends the time of battles

[Giant Fan Shiftry] created an undesirable play environment because it:
>Creates a strategy that frequently wins on the first turn of the game
>Creates a non-interactive play environment where the opponent has little impact on the outcome of the match

Does Vileplume lock fit any of these conditions? No. So man up and stop being a bitch. Build a better deck.
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>>32067218
Vileplume can turn 1/4th of the cards in an average deck into dead draws on turn 1 so you can definitely argue that it creates a non-interactive play environment.

While Vileplume doesn't necessarily win on the first turn of the game, it creates conditions that make the game practically unwinnable for the opponent on the first turn of the game.
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>>32067286
You could lose against Shiftry before you even drew a card. Compare to Vileplume which allows you the opportunity to play. You can kill it, you can strand it in the active, you can turn off the ability, your opponent suffers the same item lock. It's incomparable.
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>>32067286
>can definitely argue that it creates a non-interactive play environment

Lysandre?
Garb?
Hex?
You're still welcome to use supporters anon. If they haven't attached a float to their gloom they've dun goofed since they're item locked too.
I understand your concerns and I can sympathize with you. Vileplume hasn't had a good primary grass attacker to go with it until Sun & Moon came out and gave it 2.

That said, I really want to run Lurantis garb for a bit just to take advantage of my opponents' FOGP
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>facing Volcanion with my homebrew standard Trev/Banette deck
>take five prizes from one baby volc & two Shaymin, to his two
>have three Volcanion-EX all on 150 damage heading into last turn
>take 11 prizes
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Now Trevgor will be back in expanded.
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This M Mewtwo ignores abilities or something?
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>>32067517
Does it fucking say it ignores abilities
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Any body watch pack openings? Who you watch?
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>>32067517

I'm just really confused.
I had a Giratina in the active and M Mewtwo was able to knock it out. Wouldn't Giratina's ability prevent it from being damaged or am I the biggest idiot on this board.
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>>32067667
>this attacks damage isn't affected by ... any effects on your opponents active pokemon
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>>32067667

m8.
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Holy fuck man, my wallet's gonna get destroyed in May
>Kyurem battle deck
>Ho-oh deck that will finally let me play expanded rainbow road and let me get my favorite bird relatively cheaply
>Koko tin to supplement my Raikou fetish
>Bulu tin to supplement my beloved Lurantis
>already decided that GUR was gonna be my ETB purchase of the season cause I like the Tapu designs and figured they'd be featured prominently
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Why can't my Mewtwo knock out a Regice with Shatter Shot? I had 4 energies and it did 0 damage, feels weird
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>>32067699

I occasionally wonder if people actually bother to read the cards before asking obvious questions or are they just trolling for funsies
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>>32067882

>trolling for funsies

This guy >>32067863 definitely is.
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Why is it considered bad to be a blingfag.
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>>32067924

Nothing wrong with blinging, but I always consider that financially unintuitive unless PCL decides to reprint Ultra Ball and VS Seeker until the end of time
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>>32067985
VS Seeker is so close to rotation.
Trainer's Mail is getting back into rotation with a new promo I believe and Ultra Ball is always be in the format.
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>>32067900
Not trolling. I just don't understand. I even had my Garbodor set up
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>>32068035

Go read the effect of Regice's second attack (Resistance Blizzard), then read what type of Pokemon Mewtwo EX is, and put those two together
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Anybody wants to trade me their PTCGO Volcanion deck for a MMewtwo or full art MScizor deck? Just need the small and big Volcanion really, can trade the ex from the other decks
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>>32068075

Got anything else worth while?
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>>32068484
No. Just looking for someone who is bored of Volcanion and wants to swap decks
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>>32061584
Cloning? tell me more.
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>>32047372
Thank you daddy Darkrai
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What's the benefit of running Scattershot Mewtwo instead of just a plain M Mewtwo deck? Trying to run Tapu Lele in the M Mewtwo but I feel like Mewtwo EX plain would be better.
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>>32068685
Mega Turbo, less HP, DCE doesnt count for scattershot... your deck is a worse darkrai.
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>>32068729
I didn't account for Mega Turbo, but I played Mewtwo in last years standard and it worked p well.
What's Darkrai GX going to look like in Darkrai EX(BKP) decks?
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>>32068762
A quick way to pull energy out of discard for a +20, might replace one of the OW Yveltals. Can also chain pretty well early game if you get it, use an ultra ball to discard it and a darkness energy, bring it up, elixir it then attach a darkness from hand, switch in for a quick 100+ damage attack.

Darkrai-GX is more of an expanded card imo since it hugely benefits from battle compressor. Darkrai-GX might be the card we need to make expanded Rainbow Road a tier 1 deck. Also good as a one of in Megaray and Garde-STS.
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>>32068863
Darkrai-GX is a good Ninja Boy place in, as you get one easy energy from discard, attach for turn, ninja boy in to Darkrai EX and get the potential KO

But how will this help expanded Rainbow Road? Just to get one easy Dark Pokemon out and ready to go? I'm unfamiliar with Rainbow Road in expanded.
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>>32068913
right now there are 2 pokemon that can pull themselves out of discard, exeggcute and ho-oh. That's two types. This darkrai is a third type.

Imagine you get parallel citied. Your bench is down to 3 pokemon of 3 types (you don't always see the same dual type use in expanded because of ho-oh/keldeo are better than Volcanion and Exeggcute/Jolteon are better than Galvantula). Right now, next turn, if you can bump the stadium you are guaranteed 4 types and have a chance (Ho-oh needs a coin flip) for 5 types on the next turn. With Darkrai, you are guaranteed 5 types and have a chance for 6. So before, 130-160 damage, now, 160 to 190 damage.

This doesn't count what you may be able to search for with your hand, what you can play for damage boosts (choice band, kukui, ect). It's kind of like Dragonite in Megaray, it makes the deck much more resilient against parallel city and unlike Dragonite, which has redundant typing with Shaymin, Darkrai doesn't share typing with the best supportive RR benchwarmers in expanded. Yveltal-EX is used in the deck as a benchwarmer/alternate attacker but the deck doesn't really lack alternate attacker options, it's just used as the best single dark type on a list that runs DCE and has flexibility with basic energy due to Ho-oh-EX needing 3 kinds to be at max efficiency (the dark/lightning/fairy mix currently used wouldn't even change).
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>>32063238
>>32063238
>>32063238

this faggot here. About to open 28 straight ROS packs. Wish me luck bros
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>>32069176
Have fun opening 10 unfezant
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>>32069176

It's a mistake imo, but good luck anyway.
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>>32069176
that's a mistake

t. opened 60 SM packs and got 3 GX cards total.
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>>32069190
>>32069219
>>32069227

>Full Art Rayquaza
>Full Art Gallade
>Full Art Winona

jesus fucking christ I hate Roaring Skies. What a worthless fucking usless piece of shit set. I will never get a Shaymin
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>>32069290
I have 5 trade locked MLatios and 4 Dragon type Rayquaza. I fucking hate Roa
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>>32069460
>>32069460

are there any budget Shaymins I could use in my Lurantis/Solgaleo deck?
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>>32069517
No. Just suck it up and buy some codes on ebay or waste a lot of time grinding tournaments or doing trading schemes
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>>32069290
>literally has enough packs to trade for a shaymin
>opens them all despite all advice to not open them
>WAHHHH ILL NEVER GET A SHAYMIN

no shit you won't get a shaymin if you gamble all of your packs away.
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>>32047935
they come with a code too, it gives you cosmetic stuff tought
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>>32069517
>Budget Shaymin
Oranguru
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>>32069907
Oranguru and Shaymin don't really serve the same purpose. Oranguru is basically low investment protection against delinquent.
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>>32069930
It's also a powerful attacker that only gives 1 prize card
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>>32069930
It's the closest thing we have to a "budget Shaymin."
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>>32067218
>Creates a non-interactive play environment where the opponent has little impact on the outcome of the match
>Does Vileplume lock fit any of these conditions?
>literally just draw a card and pass while memeowl snipes bench and strands heavy fuckers in active with lysandre
Sounds like it m8
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>>32070296
>what are supporters, draw abilities etc
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>>32070322
Very minimally helpful in most matchups
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Vileplume is not a problem. Forest of giant plant is
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>>32070339
if we got rid of FOGP we could unban Shiftry NXD too.

It's too bad that TPCI is tacitly endorsing this shit though. The grass type Trevenant line makes both trev lock and vileplume lock better. I have no idea why they encourage this obnoxious style of play where every game comes down to who gets their obnoxious lock placed first making the game extremely frustrating for the opposing player until they are slowly forced to give up.

It wasn't an interesting playstyle with seismitoad, it wasn't interesting with trevenant, it's still not interesting with Vileplume. They should just let this shit fall off into expanded and never revive it in standard.
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>being able to take 3-4 prizes from one attack
Pitch Black Spear is so good.
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>>32070420
>that last pic
kekked
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>>32070420
I have a story about the last frame. Some guy had a vintage collection and made a deck with only his vintage stuff. It was based around a Deluge Blastoise that was not very good and some card that removed one of your energy and two of the opponent's. He destroyed all the energy some poor girl played until he ended up killing himself because he had no cards in his library and kept using the item Juniper
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>>32070662
>not knowing Super Energy Removal by name

Most people I've played expanded with agree to ban the following cards

Super Energy Removal
Energy Removal (either banned or errata'd for coinflip)
Computer Search (ace spec version allowed)
Gust of Wind (either banned or errata'd for coinflip)
Chaos Gym
Slowking Neo Genesis

The following cards are treated as supporters

Professor Oak
Bill
Lass

It's amazing how many utterly broken trainers were in base set.
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>>32070819
No broken space ban? Plebs.
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>>32070819
I only play standard, I don't give a shit about those old cards
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>>32070861
Yeah that too, there are a lot of weird cards I don't even think about that are obviously banworthy in unlimited. Haven't played in a few years so I can't recall all of them immediately.
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>>32070862
Unlimited with targeted custom bans is objectively the best meta.
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>Ho-Oh redistribution

Cool, I needed the non FA and didn't want to shill out 15 bucks for one.
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>asshole finally paid me for a card after buying it ten days ago
>had to open an unpaid claim
This is the kind of shit that gets your kneecaps broken.
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>>32071543
I bought a card a month ago off some lebo cunt from gumtree and he still hadnt posted last week so i got paypal to refund me. Fucking hell i just want my pokemon cards is that so difficult
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>>32070296
by that logic we should also ban mill decks, stall decks, hammers, garbodor, all team flare cards, any type of disruption.
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>>32071543

I had the opposite problem (>>32066123 is me). It took 10 days for my cards to reach me, from less than 50 miles away.

The guy did give me some free holo/reverse holo cards by way of apology (or maybe as thanks for not rushing to open a claim or leave bad feedback). They aren't specifically valuable cards, but they do feature a couple of Pokemon I like.
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new thread faggots

>>32071873

>>32071873
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>>32071832
Yeah ok buddy. Those are all the same as t1 item lock
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