PTCG/PTCGO General

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First for the shaymeme rotation

>>31689276
Potential Shaymin replacements

1. Octillery, if BKT isn't rotated Octillery could replace Shaymin in most decks, though it is significantly more card intensive. Can be searched with level and dive balls which make those cards a little better. Comes out slower which makes it vulnerable to Garby if we don't get any good tool removal in the SM sets.

2. Oranguru, single stage but only draws to 3

3. Drampa-GX, has a draw 10 but it's a move so they can N you the next turn. Talonflame, Lapras GX and Sylveon GX also have draw/search moves but move based search always has to fear N retaliation unless we get a counter to hand disruption

>>31689336

I doubt BREAKthrough will be rotated, it's the closest thing to a "base" set that's not Sun & Moon.

Pokemon GX tiers

Really good

Decidueye
Lurantis
Tauros

Solid

Gumshoos
Umbreon
Espeon
Sylveon
Snorlax
Drampa

Could be good after rotation, outclassed or have too many bad matchups before that

Incineroar
Solgaleo
Lunala
Toxapex


Kind of shit

Lycanrock
Lapras
Primarina
Bewear
Vikavolt

>>31689417
Is this accurate?
My booster box had three Tauros, a Solgaleo and a Decidueye, which feels like pretty shit rates compared to previous booster boxes, but if those are likely to be popular, that helps.

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Memes

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So now that no new EX cards are going to be produced, what is your opinion on the existing ones? Were they a good or a bad addition? DId you like them more than Lv. X?i

>>31689465
Decidueye is the most valuable GX atm, very good in many decks for his +20

Tauros is useful tech for big basics/EX decks.

>>31689565
I guess they were bad in that they made the majority of decks every year be all basics, since they were basically just ex/Lv.X cards except without evolution.
At least Megas kind of changed that.

Also, where the fuck is my M-Abomasnow EX?

>>31689593
Yeah, I'm using the Tauros I got on TCGO for surprise Ninja Boy KOs right now, it seems like it can fit into basically any deck.

>>31689593
>>31689565
I agree, why would you want to use an evolution line where it often depends on luck or trainers to get the stage 1 or 2 when you can have a fucking powerful BASIC Pokemon. Even though there are currently no GX cards with Pokemon that I personally like out right now, I really love that GX require actual evolution.

>>31689656
meant for >>31689601

>>31689656
Stage 1 GX pokemon exist and a lot of them are really good damage wise.

Drampa for example hits 150 damage for 3 energy if he has something on his bench with damage. It'll be great for rainbow energy decks.

>>31689731
and by stage 1 I mean basic ofc.

>>31689731
>>31689734
Oh, I thought mons like Lapras or Tauros had to have their normal card played first before one is able to use the GX. Seems like I overlooked that

>>31689731
Don't forget team magma base for some of the attacks of the SM Pokemons

>>31689555
howdoitakeascreeshot.org

Press stamp then paste it on paint next time

alright bois I'm doing it, I'll post any good draws.

>>31689836
I took a picture of a tablet screen with phone though.

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>>31690148
fuck man can't remember to post my pics

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>>31690155
At the half way point, so far my only noteworthy draws are 3 standard art GX

REEEE GIVE ME HYPERS

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Well, it's something, these cards look horrible compared to the rainbow ones though imo.

should i posted 30+ codes?

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>>31690265
10 packs left holy fuckin shit if I draw another fucking Masquerain or Parasect I will kill someone

>>31690294

If you feel like giving them away, then sure.

Check the OP for instructions.

>>31690294
depends, do you want to post 30+ codes?

>>31690298
My final draw from 62 packs
2 Lapras GX
2 Primarina GX
2 Espeon GX
2 Tauros GX
1 Lurantis GX FA
1 Umbreon GX FA
1 Lapras GX FA

PLUS
7 Masquerain
6 Parasect
4 Incineroar
3 Primarina

All of these taking up the rare slot despite being offered in coin bought themedecks

Would you guys watch someone stream PTCGO on twitch? would you if it was a girl?

Has anyone tested if Volcanion-EX can attack Araquanid?
since Volcanion is also water Type and Araquanid got a Fire immunity

>>31690557

are you the girl who posted nudes for a couple for codes? if so no thank you, lewd/unpure girls are the worst

New player and I have no clue how prices work in this game, how much should I be looking to get for a full art poke ranger?

>>31690609
I'm not but that's pretty hilarious

>>31690557
depends on what decks you're playing

>>31690627

Probably only 1 decent (i.e. non-Evolutions) pack.

>>31690654
So I should probably take the offer that's up for a steam siege then?

>>31690669

You might be able to get a slightly more valuable pack (such as Sun/Moon) if you list up your own trade. Maybe even two cheaper packs.

I'm just going by the fact that I offered a BREAKpoint pack for a FA Ranger the other day and it got snapped up pretty quickly.

Does anyone recommend buying booster box codes from ebay or something?

Gold secret rare cards from now on are going to be a meme because these are just going to be mass-produced unlike the older packs

>>31690557
Yes just post link here when you are streaming and I'll give it a go. Lately been just doing shit ton trading so I'll gladly watch some streams while doing that.

>>31691173
Yes, I bought codes from eBay a lot, but make sure the seller you're buying from is a good one

>>31691173

It's kind of a shortcut. You can amass lots of packs for no money if you're willing to put the time into trading, but to save time you can just buy booster codes.

If you do, bear in mind that packs are currency and you're probably better off just using the unopened packs for trades, instead of opening them and trading the cards you get.

>>31691180
what did he mean by this

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>>31689565
I like the idea of FA cards when they were made well.
As for GX, not sure how I feel about their look.

So would buying the codes and then trading those packs for ex cards or gx cards the best route most likely?

>>31691439
Hyper rares are pretty damn cash though

Anyone know a cheaper way to get energy cards besides elite boxes?

>>31691691
EX and GX don't mean shit, trade for cards you want to build a deck with. Shaymins go for ~20-25 SM packs though I'm sure prices will rise over time. Every non-meme deck that isn't Greninja wants at least 2 of those.

4 vs seeker are also mandatory and cost about 2 shit packs or 1 good pack (ie ROS, SM, PLF) each

4 ultra balls, 2 lysandre, 2 N are very common but you will have all of those by the time you finish your trainer challenges and get your themedecks unlocked.

Past that, most EX and competitively viable non-EX attackers (ie raikou, yveltal, xerneas) are worth about 1-3 packs each, some promos or high demand cards like Salamence-EX, Jolteon-EX or Hoopa-EX can cost more.

All in all you should be able to build a complete competitive deck from scratch for about 70-80 packs of value. Since so much of the deck's value is in staple cards like Shaymin, the cost of building each additional deck plummets. When I want to build a deck now I spend less than 10 packs of value in most cases.

>>31689276
When is the rotation?

>>31691944
September 1st

>>31689336
Just play 4 Sycamore 4 N and cut out all of the extraneous 1-of supporters

Also Dive Ball will rotate too.

>>31689353
Assume everything is the on chopping block.

>>31691439
Was this card good when it first came out or something?

>>31691944
September. Pretty high chance that Breakpoint and up remain legal, at least that's what most people think. I think that leaves a huge chunk of the current standard meta intact, it'll remove several supporters but many popular decks come out mostly unscathed, particularly Greninja BREAK.

I think if they release another set that has more staple trainer reprints they might make Generations the cutoff, but in doing that they lose BREAK cards which generally fit with the philosophy you see in SM and the GX cards, which is generally a move away from big basics and EX, providing incentives to play stage 2 cards again.

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>>31692064
>Greninja BREAK
>no Dive Ball
>no Silent Lab
>intact

>>31692060
It's a Double Crisis card, it was released about two years ago so it's not exactly old. In fact it's still standard legal.

There are a lot of bad EX cards, some of which look nice.

>>31692089
I expect dive ball to get a reprint in SM, silent lab IDK. Even without dive balls, timer balls aren't a horrible replacement if you consider how much big EX decks lose with hoopa and shaymin disappearing.

>>31692016
>Assume everything is on the chopping block.

That's just plain retarded thinking, Anon. We're not moving on to SM-on this September.

>>31692064
Here's what we're losing if the rotation is BRT-on:

>Primal Clash
Wailord-EX
Bunnelby
Archie’s Ace in the Hole
Maxie’s Hidden Ball Trick
Professor Birch’s Observations
Teammates
Dive Ball
Rough Seas
Scorched Earth
Silent Lab

>Double Crisis
Team Magma’s Camerupt
Team Magma’s Hidden Base

>Roaring Skies
M Rayquaza-EX (Emerald Break)
Rayquaza-EX
Shaymin-EX
Mega Turbo
VS Seeker
Rayquaza Spirit Link
Double Dragon Energy

>Ancient Origins
Vespiquen (10/98)
Gyarados (21/98)
Regice
Unown
Giratina-EX
Lugia-EX
Vileplume
Forest of Giant Plants
Faded Town
Ace Trainer
Hex Maniac
Lucky Helmet
Lysandre
Trainers’ Mail

So right away the meta will lose
>Giratina decks
>Gyarados
>Vespiquen decks
>M Fug
>Vileplume decks

As >>31692089 said, the loss of Dive Ball and Silent Lab dooms Greninja. They could still tech in a 2-2 line-up of Alolan Muk but it seems inconsistent. Mega Turbo being gone means M Mewtwo, M Scizor and M Gardevoir will slow down a lot while Big Basic decks can still abuse Max Elixir. FoGP means Grass deck like Lurantis and Decidueye will fade to obscurity.

Which leaves behind Big Basic decks like Volcanion, Yveltal and Darkrai to dominate the format.

>>31692137
No reason to assume that. And Timer Ball is not a good replacement.

>>31692142
I guess by everything I mean it's safe to assume BRT and even BRP could get the axe as well. I'm not counting on it but I would at least consider it because there are a lot of important cards in both.

>>31692195
Also I intentionally left out Hoopa-EX because of the Powers Beyond tin promo - we won't know if that rotates until we see an exact rotation list.

>>31691747
Rainbow.

>>31692137
Wait, when do Shaymin and Hoopa rotate?

>>31692276
Shaymin EX rotates in September 1.
Hoopa EX might rotate then as well. Not positive yet.

>>31692279
Hmm, I better enjoy M Rayquaza when I can then, Oranguru and Octillery may be a fix for when it happens.

>>31692456
If Shaymin EX, out of the set Roaring Skies, is rotating, what else do you figure is rotating? Perhaps also in Roaring Skies?

>>31691747
really? I think they are hideous.

>>31692565
they look better than the FA cards, I think the FA GX are horribly ugly.

>>31692476
M Rayquaza was "reprinted" in a later pack, forgot the name of it but it's the Shiny version with the MAX ancient trait.

>>31692666
Guess what pack is also rotating.

>>31692666

That's in Ancient Origins, which will probably be rotated along with Roaring Skies since that's only one set after it

Bought a few codes and got Lunala GX and Tauros GX. I don't really have a psychic deck so I'm considering trading Lunala away for more packs, or should I keep it?

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>>31692674
>>31692677

>>31692666
>>31692677
Also can you imagine what kind of dumpster fire the deck would be if Ancient Origins for some reason didn't rotate?

>Theta Max can't evolve turn 1
>no Sky Field to expand bench
>no Shaymin to fill bench quickly
>no Mega Turbo for turn 1 attack
>no Intensifying Burn Rayquaza so you have to use the shitty Dragon Claw Rayquaza

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>>31692705
I literally just assembled it today

>>31692770
Well you still have 7 more months to play it. Plus there's Expanded, which is arguably a better format for M Fug because of Battle Compressor and Computer Search.

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>>31692647
imo regular >>>> fa > rainbow
I mean I just pulled pic related from a locked pack and I would easily prefer either of the other Umbreons. Box ticked in the collection I suppose.

>>31692826
Pulled the exact same one from a locked pack and an Espeon GX from another, only got Solgaleo GX from about 5 unlocked, I don't know why but locked packs tend to have WAY better stuff for me

>>31692826

They're all pretty disappointing, desu. I'm not one of the big 5ban art haters that frequent this thread, but I think they did pretty poorly so far this gen.

>>31692931
Only if they made more of the mew ex treasure art style tbqh

>>31693095
MAHOU's illustrations are Comfy As Fuck.
And aesthetically ideal EX card is one that doesn't use bad-looking 3DCG art as the RA and/or doesn't have shit ugly yellow outlines as the FA.

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> Tournament
> Vileplume/Vespiquen opponent
> I have a Gourgeist/Raticate deck
> I can't use my Hypnotoxic so it might aswell be gg
> He has only 5 cards left
> I N him to 0 and he saves himself with Prehistoric Call Archen
> Vespiquen is one shotting all of my stuff
> Idea
> Lyssandre his Vileplume and Gnaw Through its Float Stone
> Immediate surrender
> mfw

I'm convinced that only sadists could possibly enjoy playing Vileplume Toolbox.

>tfw watching your rainbow road opponent squirm once you get Vileplume up, delinquent his sky field and slowly chip through all 5 of his Xerneas with Flash Ray
>tfw resistance blizzarding EX spam decks
>one guy even fucking decked himself trying to look for a card that could stop me as he float stone rotated around EX pokemon to avoid giving me my last prizes

>>31693330
this is true of all item lock decks

>>31693374
yeah, but item lock with extremely low damage is just extra punishment. Like, you know the ONLY hope you have is drawing that one ace trainer you splashed into the deck and OHKOing the turn you use it.

Earlier I had a battle where someone ace trainered my Mew hoping to score his last two prizes, did 120 damage to it but I had a FFB on him and used Sky Return the next turn to scoop him, switched to the secondary Mew I had on bench and continued on spamming flash ray as if nothing happened.

It's also really satisfying watching their hand grow, you just know they have an ultra ball they want to use to get a shaymin, or a vs seeker to pull that sycamore out of discard. Too bad though, Vileplume hates fun :^)

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>Go to Target with my only $5 to pull Gold Ultra Ball in high hopes
>Pull a reverse instead

KILL ME ;_; this is my whatever reverse ultra ball I've already pulled a fee

>>31693543

>fee

I MEANT A FEW!

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>>31693556

>>31692931
I don't love the regular arts either (excepting Lurantis & Decidueye which are lovely cards), but the higher rarities are bland enough to make them more appealing.

>>31692693
Lunala is kind of shit atm, it could be good if we lose Garb or gain good tool removal but until then ability dependent energy transfer is kind of shit as a core strategy, best used by something like Flareon-EX for moving energy around on Volcanion decks before max potioning.

I'm starting to look forward to VS Seeker rotating just so I can stop fucking drawing all 4 before a single ultra ball or draw supporter every fucking game.

>Legacy is more supporter-friendly despite having worse ones and no VS in the client

How spicy would a new ancient origins golurk meme deck be?

Lurantis, Golurk +cband
70 attack+150 super power=230

Lurantis, Golurk, Eeveelutions.
Hit all with weakness

New turbo stream rayquaza, Golurk+ cband. This deck wouod have extra space because rayquaza does not evolve

60+150= 210

Lurantis gx and Rayquaza replaces carbink break for energy acceleration in these deck

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Send Gardevoir, plz

>>31694032
>3 evolution lines
>2 of which do nothing against garb
>one of which requires 4 energy to attack with no acceleration

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>decide to play passimian to finish a challenge
>end up attack most of the time with mew

Oh.

Why are fighting and metal so cucked?

>>31694064
Nah Lurantis Gx or Rayquaza would accelerate energy onto a Golurk. Rayquaza and Lurantis Gx don't use abillities. I agree that adding eeveelutions would be a mess.

>>31694095
>fighting
>cucked
>Strong Energy
>Carbink BREAK

Metal on the other hand...

>>31694112
He's not using Lurantis GX, he's using the new baby Lurantis.

Just to make sure, what theme decks should I be getting as a new player?

>>31694119
It can't keep up with the pace of current standard decks, especially with the gx decks now. At least in expanded it sometimes works because compessor.

>>31689235
the fuck is this card

are they already creating sun and moon 2?

>>31694032
70+150=220 lol

Been doing shit ton of trades today and got over 50 packs profit and its kinda cool and shit but it doesn't help about my 5k debt irl and about me being a neet.. If only it would be this easy and fun to do business irl.

thanks for reading my blog

These fucking Umbreon GX decks
> Item lock
> Energy lock
These people deserve to be gassed

>>31694296

How the Hell did you get into 5K and are you hiding from law and authorities?

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If any kind anon(s) would like to help me out with this list of wants so I can get a playable deck going I would be grateful. Really only have packs right now.

Want:
2 Lurantis GX
2 Oddish AOR
3 Gloom AOR
3 Vileplume AOR
1 Celebi XY93
1 Float Stone
2 Forest of Giant Plants
2 Shaymin EX (debating this but might just go with Octillery)

Things not in deck but still needed:
4 Shiinotic
4 Morelull

>>31694238
There was a subset of about 50 cards that came out in Japan last month, mostly reprints but there were some new GX.

>>31694238
The set is already created. TCG companies have the framework for sets done before the previous one is officially released. Japan is already getting spoilers for Guardians Rising so the set is finished.

>>31694392
>>31694410
Jesus. When does the US get toxapex GX, etc? Will it be an expansion or what.

Is guardians rising the "second" set?

>>31694464
It will be in Guardians Rising. Japan's release structure is different. They get smaller faster set releases than us and we get all of them in one big set.

>>31694464

The GXs from SM1+ (Vikavolt, Toxapex, Sylveon, and Drampa) will be in Guardians Rising, which will be the second English set for the Sun and Moon block

>12 regular GX Pokemons
>At least 15 Full Art cards
>Almost 20 Rainbow and Secret Rares in total

Well, prepare your wallets

>>31694510
Hyper rares were a mistake

>>31694792
They are really ugly.

What's a fun and competitive deck to play? I currently got Yveltal and M Fug, I was looking into making an M Lucario one but the meta seems too Psychic centric as to make it work.

>>31695142
Also, a Legacy deck would be nice, are LEGENDS any good?, I have a Plasma Kyurem one but it bores me out sometimes

>>31695142

M Lucario-EX is terrible, not to mention that it's only legal in Expanded.

>>31695154

Certain ones are, Rayquaza & Deoxys LEGEND is essentially a Plasma Lugia-EX that's not blocked by Garbodor and Lugia-EX sees use in some Ho-Oh-EX DRX decks.

>>31695158
Thanks, of M Lucario I liked that it was putting pressure from turn one with the 1 energy attacks boosted by band, stadium and/or special energy, honestly, it seems more reliable than what I currently have for Expanded.

>>31695176
>M Lucario
>1 energy attacks boosted by band, stadium and/or special energy

You're thinking of regular Lucario-EX, not the Mega. M Lucario-EX only has one attack and it's requirements are 3 Fighting Energy.

And while it was used for some time, Night March killed it the minute it came out.

>>31695211
Huh, you are right, I haven't seen it in a long time, I thought it was good at the time.

>>31695211
Was Night March ever good? All those "lose at the start by Hypnotoxic" were offputting

>>31695216

It was, but Night March would hit it for weakness most of the time. The only thing keeping it relevant were Golbat and Crobat, but of which could help put a dent in Night March at the time.

>>31695226

Night March started to get good after Hypnotoxic Laser was rotated out, it was still run despite that due to it potentially helping you in the long run.

>>31695211
>>31695216
Mega Lucario would at least be a little bit more playable if it actually had a Spirit Link. But since it's one of those pre-Phantom Forces Megas, it doesn't have one, which severely hampers it.

A-at least the card itself looks kinda cool.

How many Plasma Blast would a SM pack be in the TCGO? I've got 14 and some guy is offering to trade me 2:3

>>31690149
I think you can still screenshot with a tablet, not that it's important at this point I just wanted to help

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>>31689235
What decks should I expect to see at Anaheim?

So FFB only provides an effect on a Basic Pokemon, yeah? What happens if someone evolves the Pokemon it's attached to? Is it discarded or does it just take up the tool slot with no effect?

>>31689235
So I've been progressing through trainer challenge and started getting packs as rewards. Should I open them or can they become tradable somehow?

>>31695646
Tool slot with no effect.

>>31695860
they will never change from locked to untradable, might as well open them and hope for some nice pulls.

I made a thread about this but it's best if I ask here, why are RS packs more expensive than HGSS base set if you can still get out of Tourneys but no HGSS packs.

>>31696159
Because Shaymeme

why do people think that the passimian meme deck is anything resembling good?

>>31696170
What are some good decks for Legacy? I feel nostalgic and want to try the format

>>31696176
It's a poor man's M Fug desu

>someone switches his tauros in on my Mew, trying to intimidate me away from attacking
>I have 5 counters on me from other damage
>use his own mad bull GX to OHKO him

>>31696207
and by 5 i mean 6 lmao

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>draw hex maniac first turn
>w/e i just want to discard it anyways so i can vs seeker if i need it and got no supporters first turn anyways
>play it
>opponent drops his hoopa-ex into it first turn
>small pause while he figures out what happened
>then madfaces me and concedes

Has everyone on the ladder just been broken by Greninja BREAK decks or something? I've won 7 times with mine in a row without fainting a single pokemon. The second they see me get off water duplicates they just concede.

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Does anyone know the difference between the grayed out trophies and non grayed out ones on the trainer challenge? These decks are all grayed out, but basic blue from xy is full color.

Also, I've got enough coins to buy a theme deck, what should I go for currently? I'm a returning player and haven't played since 2013.

>>31692233
Aren't they called hyper rares? I mean I know they have a rainbow holo pattern. But still

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>>31696755
The trophy will be lit up if you defeat every trainer in a tournament using only that deck.
For example, I've defeated the entire Gold League using Bright Tide, but not Bolt Twister.
When a deck is selected there should also be a tick next to every trainer whom you have defeated using that deck.

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Would Flareon's Flare Effect work on Raichu BREAK?

>>31696956

Nope. BREAKs and Stage 1/2 Pokemon are different things.

>>31696956
No, it works with standard raichu though.

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>Share cost of booster box with friend
>No Decidueye
>One Timer Ball that he pulled
>One Ultra Ball
>No Kukui
>Rainbow Rare Gumshoos

>>31696936

That's very helpful thank you. Is there any incentive to do that?

>>31696912
Hyper Rare is the Japanese term, Rainbow Rare is the English one.

>>31696349
you either get the upper hand before Water Duplicates happens or it's probably a waste of my time. Plus it's just fucking painful to play against. Nine times out of ten it's babbies first meta-deck and a turn that should take a minute or two takes four or five. So fuck it you can have the points.

>>31695510

tier 1 meta decks:

Yveltal-EX variants (took over half of all placements at the European international)
Volcanion-EX
Greninja BREAK
M-Gardevoir (chiefly STS focused but most decks include at least 1 PRC)
M-Mewtwo Y
Darkrai-EX variants (either Darkrai turbo or Darkrai/Dragons)

tier 2 meta decks

Vespiquen
Rainbow Road
M-Rayquaza
Toolbox decks (usually Vileplume but sometimes you see something like Jolteon/Garb)

tier 3 decks

Raikou/Electrode
Gyarados
Carbink/Zygarde-EX
M-Scizor
Xerneas BREAK variants (dragons or Snorlax GX)


This is mostly looking at % of placements received at the PRC-EVO meta. idk when the event is but if SM cards are legal by the time it rolls around, you should mostly be concerned about Umbreon-GX, Tauros-GX, Lurantis-GX and Decidueye-GX.

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>>31697185
You're welcome. To my knowledge you don't get anything extra for getting the trophy, but you do get a card pack for every trainer (once) after earning 4 stars.
I think the trophy is just there for something to work towards if you don't want to play against other people, but that's just my speculation. I haven't completed all the leagues with a single deck because you only need to beat (any) 12 trainers to unlock (what I believe to be) the one booster pack you can earn from each deck.

>>31697601
After re-reading my post, I noticed that
>but you do get a card pack for every trainer (once) after earning 4 stars.
is a little ambiguous.
You can only earn the booster pack from each trainer once overall, but not once per deck.

>>31697633
You also get a pack for getting 12 victories with a new theme deck even if you've gotten your 45 from challenge.

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> Legacy tourney
> I start with a lone Deoxys EX
> Opponent goes Smeargle
> He copies my Colress
> Ends up with 0 cards in turn 1
> Immediately losses
> mfw
I hate Smeargle and everyone who uses it, this was divine judgement

Looking through some deck lists to see what's going on in the meta and getting ideas, I'm looking at the trainer cards.

There's no Skyla listed when I've been looking. Is there a reason for not using Skyla, she was reprinted in Breakthrough, right?

>>31697847
>run into N spammer on the ladder
>he Ns me turn 1
>he dead draws and madfaces me
>I get a one turn kill hand
>check his deck
>he has 4 N

people like him will be the first to go on the day of the rope.

>>31697870
She's used in some decks where getting a certain trainer card can be crucial (i.e. Typhlosion), but for the most part spending your supporter on a single trainer card is just so inefficient compared to a sycamore or N, and it isn't a potential gamechanger like a well timed Delinquent or Lysandre.

She has niches, but most decks just don't care about a guaranteed trainer card when they pull 40 cards turn one.

>>31697870
Skyla is used in some decks that are extremely dependent on one particular item or stadium card. Some Greninja BREAK or sky field decks will run her. But in most decks it's trading a supporter for a trainer, and you can't use a supporter the same turn so if you skyla > sycamore or skyla > N for example you're highly vulnerable to being counter N'd.

Trainer mail is typically preferred over Skyla because it's an item card so if you trainer mail for a supporter you can use it the same turn. The standard trainer section of most decks is 4 ultra balls/3 or 4 trainer mail/4 vs seeker/4 sycamore/2 N/2 lysandre

How are we dealing with Passimeme/Mew decks?

>>31697476
>STS
>PRC

;____; what does that mean

>>31697966
Lysandre/escape rope out their Passimians, enhanced hammer their DCEs. Psychic attackers that aren't psychic weak burn through the deck.

It'll be harder once those fucks fix rotom dex since it lets you get that one passimian that gets trapped in prizes free.

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>Opponent chooses who goes first at 24.01

>>31697988
>Steam Siege
>Primal Clash
They're abbreviations.

>>31697994
The only way to punch up a normal deck is enhanced hammer
I'm not keen to build a deck solely for them

>>31698000
OH okay, ty! I homebrewed M Gardevoir EX, I didn't even realize there was a Primal Clash version

>>31697988
STS = Steam Siege
PRC = Primal Clash

There are two kinds of Gardevoir-EX/Mega Gardevoir-EX, the PRC one is the one with the darkrai style fairy type attack for 3 energy, the STS one is the dual typed fairy/psychic one with the 2 energy attack that does 110+10 for every pokemon you choose to discard from your bench.

STS comes online faster and has better matchups (absolutely wrecks Mewtwo, for example) while the PRC one hits higher damage numbers in the lategame, they actually compliment one another fairly well considering most garde decks include the fairy stadium that lets them retreat for free.

>>31697200
Stop parroting this meme and just call them hyper rare likeba normal person

>>31697876
What's wrong with 4 N, 4 Juniper, 1-2 Colress, some random reciever, a portrait smeargle, and some skyla for draw support in the legacy format? Is it because oak's hint exists?

>>31698641
I'm playing standard, there is literally something wrong with your brain if you have 4 N in a non-meme standard deck. Like maybe you go 3 in a disruption heavy deck, or 3 and an ace trainer or two in a deck where you can control your opponent's prize count like Raikou BKT.

>>31698007
Play Hex, they'll have to attack with a monkey, just keep knocking them out.

>>31697876
Reminds me of the people who immediately N you to take away the extra cards you got from their mulligan, as if going second isn't enough for most decks.

>>31698641
>>31698661
Well strap in cuz this is exactly where we're headed in September.

>Opened two SM packs
>2 GXs

Does anyone have a complete card catalog? Who has the most unique cards?

I have 12% completion and I've only played a few weeks.

When are theme tournaments for boosters likely to come back? I don't want to waste my time playing in the shitty constructed formats when tickets are on the line.

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>>31698893
I only have 2 complete sets but they're the meme ones, tbqh I really don't think that its worth to collect digital cards but they are cheaper though vs the irl ones

>build a dustox deck because the thought of fucking my opponent up with rng status effects sounds fun and also moths are the master race
>just end up playing lurantis gx every game and winning off of that

weep for me anons, for i am a victim

>>31699416
that is how literally any grass plus lurantis deck works, there just aren't any grass types worth supporting with lurantis except lurantis.

Lurantis-GX/Lurantis might actually be a thing, only issue is it's kind of hard to do with only 4 fomantis.

>>31699763
speaking of lurantis gx, I wanted another one for the dustox deck and pulled a rainbow one from off the first pack. probably the luckiest pull ive ever had in a card game which means its all down hill from here.

Holy shit I accidentally traded my Kukui Full Art instead of normal one in a bundle of other trainers for 1 Sun & Moon pack, currently asking that guy to trade it back, wish me luck..

>>31700438
You traded it away to a happy merchant goyim. You aren't ever going to get it back

>>31700438
heh, stupid goy

>>31700567

>calling goys stupid

redundant desu

>>31700438
>Not even inspecting your trades before accepting
Not the tradefag's fault famalam

>>31700479
Yeah he accepted my friend request and deleted me after I ask I think, so that's that but no problem, opened few packs of S&M and got the Secret Rare Switch so I'm feeling fine again.

>>31700687
it was me accidentally putting it for trade, I don't know how the hell I did that, I wasn't supposed to even have it for "for trade" status, guess I shouldn't do trades when I'm tired as fuck.

>>31700767
Kukui isn't even a good waifu/husbando and his card is a one or two of so he's probably a pretty low tier FA, not as bad as Hau.

Lillie is the money FA supporter in this set, could be one of the better draw power cards during the second gen 7 rotation. Sycamore/N are safe this time but if they don't get a SM reprint they'll be gone after 2018's WCS.

>>31700885
Lillie is just waifu b8 right now. Kukui has immediate applications.

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HAHA

TIME FOR DISAPPOINTMENT!

>>31697998
IT'S A REALLY HARD CHOICE OK
How am I supposed to have been able to predict that I would ever have this decision? It's totally not a repetitive choice that I should have developed a system for.

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Made a Salazzle card mockup in case it never comes which I can gloss over.
Watcha think /vp/?

>dead draw and lose to an n spammer with an espeon deck

he N'd me 6 times in one game

when is this card being rotated

>>31701291
Improvement to make it usable:

>Ability: Captivating Glare
>Once per turn, before your attack, if this Pokemon is your Active Pokemon, you may switch one of your opponent's Benched Pokemon with his or her Active Pokemon. The selected Pokémon cannot retreat until the end of his or her next turn.

>Corrosive Spray
>PCC
>100
>The Defending Pokemon is now Burned. Put three damage counters on the Defending Pokemon between turns instead of two.

>>31701341
Mind telling me the details of your game my friendo? Normally drawing a fresh hand everytime shouldn't be a problem.

>>31701244

pretty damn good pulls so far. one half of the booster box left

>>31701341
>when is this card being rotated
September 2018

>>31701376
Wouldn't those changes make it a bit too strong?

I tried to make it unique in a way with it's retreat removal and fire resistance.
Strong, but not way too strong so it becomes an overplayed card. And attacks/ability which makes it play like no cards usually do.

Aren't there already pokemon which run your suggestions on the ability/attack and how come it's "not usable" with my mockup?

>>31701397
n into dead draw n into dead draw n into dead draw

i kept drawing the same fucking hand but with like 1 less card. I almost managed to win but I got put so far behind by having to sack two EX to stall that I couldn't recover. He had both Espeon GX and EX and I was using Mew, I had to resistance blizzard his EX then he attached a DCE to his GX, switched it in and KO'd.

The fact that it was a psychic attacker deck and I couldn't get my rainbow energy until I had 12 cards left in my deck just killed me. I also couldn't get Vileplume out for item lock until like turn 5 which is way later than normal.

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>>31701244
I don't play the game in real life, but I do like opening packs of cards and looking at shiny things. Do you think buying a box and selling the good rares I get online is a worthwhile investment or am I more likely to just waste my time and money?

>>31701624
Depends on if you sell well/smart.

One secret rare could be able to pay for two boxes but SuMo SR's are stupidly rare, and shit ton of em, like 30 or so.

It's a hit or miss market Anon, good luck.

>>31701624
Buying sealed product is NEVER financially worthwhile unless you can sell every single card you open. You have to know where to get boxes as cheap as you can, have an "out" like a TCGPlayer storefront or eBay account and keep your prices updated regularly. Its really only worth it if you can get vendor prices for bulk boxes.

Now, if you just have disposable income go get a box or two and have fun realizing that you have a small chance to actually pull enough to pay for the box.

>>31701423
I think there's a fine line between trash and usable in this game. I wouldn't sacrifice usability for uniqueness. When 90% at minimum of any given set is trash, some of which is unique, I'd leave it to PCL to create garbage. If we're going to take the time to theorize a card, let's try to make it as good as possible without being ridiculous.

That said, I think you're right here. Captivating Glare is too good for a Stage 1 non-GX; I would leave the switched target up to the opponent. But the ability to keep it from retreating during the opponent's next turn should stay.

The attack is fine, but if it was too good you could switch the energy back to PPC or lower the damage to 90.

The idea behind the card is to use its ability to pull up any Pokemon, force it there for one turn, so the attack will do damage, then the burn will do an addition 30. If they stay burned by the end of the next turn, that's an additional 30. That's some solid synergy and I think it's a great way to promote the new Burn effect, it showcases Corrosion (sort of), and it's interesting to have a Psychic ("Poison") Pokemon inflicting Burn.

>Aren't there already pokemon which run your suggestions on the ability/attack and how come it's "not usable" with my mockup?
Hawlucha from Steam Siege and Genesect-EX from Plasma Blast had switching abilities and saw use. The "locked in the Active" portion of the ability hasn't seen much use because, by itself, it's not a particularly useful thing to do. The extra Burn damage between turns hasn't been done before, I don't think. At least not with the new errata.

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>>31701244

meh

Is ptcgo.com legit?

Is cargamecodes legit?

I want some theme deck codes for my lil brother but nobody sells them in my country, so anyone has used these pages before?

>>31701701

>Hawlucha from Steam Siege and Genesect-EX from Plasma Blast had switching abilities and saw use. The "locked in the Active" portion of the ability hasn't seen much use because, by itself, it's not a particularly useful thing to do. The extra Burn damage between turns hasn't been done before, I don't think. At least not with the new errata.
I thought of that ability with the pokemon's personality/nature in mind. A fire/phsycic type which mainly attracts other pokemon into traps. But I can understand why the retreat negation would make it be looked down upon and not played one bit, but Switch kind of counters and most likely other trainers/abilities.

>The attack is fine, but if it was too good you could switch the energy back to PPC or lower the damage to 90.
I'd rather it be 80 because as you said it'd be a bit too strong for a stage 1 which isn't a GX.
90 plus Fighting Fury Belt. plus the burn, that's one hard hit for a stage 1.

90 plus burn doesn't sound bad one bit, it's more or less a base of 120 which is reasonable for a stage one but with it's ability, resistance and HP it feels like it'd be very very mainstream with cards like FFB.

>>31701958
>Two FA's
>One Ultra Rare
>Meh

B O I

>>31701981
>Fighting Fury Belt
>Stage 1
At least once a thread.

>>31702062
Shit forgot FFB is for basics.

>>31702062
we've been in the basic spam meta for so long that people forget 1st/2nd stage pokemon exist outside of mega/greninja/vespiquen decks that have totally cookie cutter lists.

Rate my deck

Lunala GX x 1
Cosmoem x 2
Cosmog x 2
Drowsee (s&m) x 1
Drowsee (evo) x 1
Hypno (s&m) x 2
Mereanie x 2
Toxapex x 1
Alolan grimer x 3
Alolan muk x 1
Zubat (s&m) x 2
Golbat (s&m) x2
Crobat (s&m) x 1
Gastly (s&m) x 2
Jirachi (generation) x 2
Spinda (s&m) x 1
Pikipek x 2
Trumbeak x 2
Toucannon x 2
Psychic energy x 15
Double colorless x 2
Hau x 3
Switch x 1
Max revive x 1
Misty's determination x 1
Poison barb x 1
Lillie x 1
Great ball x 3
Big malasada x 2
Evo soda x 1

I call it "why can't I hold all these poisons?."

Wanted to have a computer search in but I'm a poor fag.

>>31702889
That's a steaming turd if I've ever seen one. Please look at the FAQ's and actual deck lists and try again.

>>31702920
I would definitely consider taking your deck to an SM draft tournament, that's about as far as it'll go.

>>31702938
Yeah pretty much. I have a separate main deck which is basically just Shaymin EX deck I just copied off of reddit with my own choice of trainer cards. also I accidentally deleted that reply for some reason.

dustox deck is working pretty well so far, especially when the opponent rolls tails on every coin flip

>>31703040
But what if they flip heads anon?

>>31703073
then i use lurantis gx, ive got it all figured out anon

Is coughing up heavy cash for singles the only reliable way to get VS seeker now a days?

>>31702889
horrible

>>31703197
>heavy cash

they're like $4 or some shit lmao, less than a pack.

>>31703197
how else would you get them?

also
>heavy cash
>$30
>heavy

>>31703289
I don't think paying 30 dollars for a piece of paper is the most optimal decision out there.

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>>31703197
It got reprinted in like every duel deck ever so you could pick up some of those if you need the staples. Otherwise singles.

>>31703327
tell that to mtg players

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>>31703327
If $30 is bad, then you don't want to see the extents rarity whores go too

Especially rarity whores in other games And this still isn't even that bad compared to Wixoss

>>31703436
>>31703327
Forget rarity whores, if you think 30 buckaroos on cardboard is egregious you shouldn't be playing TCG's at all, let out this one.

>>31703436
I can understand cards that are valuable by rarity like rainbow Rare lunatic GX, fullart trainers and such but card price driven purely by demand just seems a bit too daunting for me to pay.

>>31703436

>Spoiler text
>Checks some of the prices on Yuyutei

Are those like some sort of uber secret rare that comes in one in every ten cases or soemthing?

>>31703475

And to think Pokemon is already one of the cheaper card games out there

>>31703501
Exactly. This TCG is nothing compared to YGO or MTG.

I'm on my second day of still no fucking daily login bonus booster pack. WHAT THE FUCK.

>>31703476
VS seeker rotates with Shaymin anyways, the cost of deckbuilding should plummet this summer.

>>31703586

If it's not reprinted in Guardians Rising, of course.

>>31703561
How much do meta decks in YGO/MTG cost these days? You can have any pokemon meta deck for $160 or less, some of the cheaper decks don't even cost $100.

>>31703586
Trainers' Mail also rotates, meaning the only expensive ($20+ for playset) generic Trainers (so far) are Elixir and FFB. I expect Choice Band to be $4-$5 a piece as well. But besides that building a Standard deck will be a fraction of its current cost.

Don't forget to pick up Octillery, by the way.

>>31703581
anon please calm down youre scaring everyone

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>>31689235

Oh! Game Freak has released a Mega Pinsir card?

No, well then FUCK OFF!

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>>31703623
This is a look at the next Tier 0 Yugioh deck. Mind you they are prerelease prices as the set officially drops Friday but I wouldn't expect a dramatic difference.

Also Pot of Desires is the current Shaymin of Yugioh (sort of) and it's been consistent $70+ since it was released in August.

>>31703620
and if it's reprinted prices should plummet so unless you're blingfagging you can get them cheap again, especially if there's a SR version as TPCI seems wont to do these days.

>>31703627

Fuck you pansy faggot.

>>31703654
were all worried about you please stop yelling
ANON STOP NO AHHHHHH

>>31703644
Game Freak isn't the developer nor publisher of the TCG, so Game Freak wouldn't release a Mega Pinsir card anyway.

>>31703644
there might be new mega-GX cards released as promos in SM since they're releasing the lost mega stones chinese water torture style in the game.

>>31703668

I'm not even typing in caps you autistic mongoloid, go arrange an appointment with your mental therapist, you're going spastic like a sperg.

>>31703681
>>31703652
>>31703650
>>31703625
>>31703623
>>31703620
>>31703586
Wow a TCG thread on /VP/ with actual semi-civil discussion happening.

>>31703699
THATS IT IM CALLING THE POLICE WAIT OH GOD IS THAT A KNIFE FUCK

>>31703722

Kys or take your meds and go back to living in your cage.

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I'm trying to homebrew a fun deck with Meganium after pulling it, any suggestions??

>>31703623
>>31703650
Some of those prices are pretty gaugy, no way anyone's actually paying $18 for Tiger or $15 for Thorough. But yes, YGO decks get extremely pricey due to the frequent necessity of cards needed in 2s and 3s that only come in secret rare, as well has extra deck cards, staples, side deck cards, and meta dependent techs with no reprints all with varying degrees of difficulty to obtain. You're generally looking at at least $300-400

>>31703764
And the best part about YGO is at any time, unnoticed, Konami can come in and render your deck worthless through a new F/L list, throwing your $400 deck into the garbage.

I spent $160 on a playset of FA Shaymin-EX back when ROS dropped and I've used at least one of them in every deck I've built since.

>>31703737
O K

>>31703759

You're going to gey ripped in half by anyone running a Tier 1 deck.

>>31703803
Not to mention just purely the nature of YGO as a game and how needy every fucking monster is.

>>31703828
yeah man, it's just for funsies to take a break from my normal deck

>>31703803

And don't forget reprints that will suddenly make your expensive card worth a lot less than before, remember how Zenmaines was around $100 and the reprint ruined its price?

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>>31703803
It really is awful. I only still play because Madolche is still decent enough to get wins, Tiaramisu is still one of the best cards ever printed, and it pisses the hell out of people. The actual game aside, I get more and more pissed off with the management of the game in the west as the days go by

Though I'm not sure if I'll ever break into playing this physically, WS is the game I'm invested in moving to full time when YGO becomes too unbearable

>>31703857
I'd probably try to use it with Lurantis GX, LLC is kind of a lot of energy for a card like that, Lurantis can at least get the energy set up.

You'll probably use Lurantis 2x as much as the stupid meganium though lmao. Typhlosion is the fun G/S starter. Apparently someone took a top 36 placement at a regional with a Typhlosion deck.

>>31703994

Ten bucks says they stacked their deck.

I'm building a Xerneas-Gardevoir deck. I'm using a 3-3 line for Gardevoir (2 Brilliant Arrow and 1 Despair Ray).

My question is, why most people are using the Despair Ray variant? In my opinion is less consistent (even with Dragonite EX) because of Pararell City and because it does less damage and its only really good matchup is M-Mewtwo, but that's my point of view. I would like to see what are your opinions about that.

>>31704141

That's pretty much it, the main reason why you see more Dispair Ray over Brilliant Arrow is because the latter lost Aromatisse XY to rotation.

>>31689235

The sheer amount of secret rares this set and the low pull rates for them is giant cash grab. Might skip this set as a collector until prices go way down.

>>31704141

I've played the version you're building for over 1000 games. It's far too slow to compete against many decks, even in it's fastest form. I've personally always thought that it was a great deck, however, capable of being BDIF given a particular meta. But that doesn't look like it's ever going to happen. Despair Ray Garde is much more versatile and is up faster. You'll likely find that, in the deck you're building, going aggressive with SS Garde is the winning play. And while the other Garde is certainly better after turn ~3 or 4, Pokemon is a very momentum driven game. Being better now is often more important than being better later.

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>>31704248
Weren't trading cards as a concept a cash grab to begin with?

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>opponent trying to heal and stall my rats
>I actually win the game with Garb

Holy fuck there's a first for everything.

>>31704248
Good. I'm tired of every set being garbage since forever. It's nice to be able to make a decent profit of a pack for a change.

Or do you prefer every set only have one secret rare and that secret rare is fucking Gyarados EX?

>>31704353
So you recommend me to use the Despair Ray Gardevoir in the first 3-4 turns meanwhile I charge the other 1-2 M-Garde and then start hitting like a truck?

I've seen many games with each Garde and I find the BA more consistent thanks to things like Mega Turbo, Exp. Share, Max. Elixir, Dragonite EX, Xerneas and Aromatisse (the format in my locals is Expanded), meanwhile the DR Garde suffers after a few turns and deals so little damage to kill things like Volcanion, Yveltal or even Greninja.

Oh, and thanks for the help.

>>31704546
I think tournament results tend to speak for themselves.

M Gardevoir PRC is Turbo Darkai except Turbo Darkrai doesn't have to evolve and wins tournaments.

>>31704580
Thank you for the help. I'll look forward to compleate my deck and see if I put more DR Garde.

>>31694388
I have 3 less ROS packs. Also don't need the forests.

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We're going to build a wall, and the preschoolers will pay for it.

>>31705457
>fight some guy with a trump name in first round of tournament
>he has the standard 10 year old's random cool-looking garbage deck

Anyone have build ideas around the Deciduder GX?

Is it best to just go 4x4x4 Deci line, 2x2 shiinotic, 4x Big Forest?

how many ball tutors are too many

does the deck need shaymins if I have 2 on hand? acro bikes? double energies?

~veteran~ magic player, new to pokeyman, deck structure is bananas in this game

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Be honest with yourself and with /vp/ and the ptcg. How much do you spend and drop on it, elite boxes, cases, booster boxes, single packs, etc, rather than instead buying singles?

>>31705578
I have spent 8 dollars on packs, would probably have spent a lot more if I had any money to spend

>>31705578
I buy a box and an ETB every new set just because I have disposable income. And because I enjoy opening packs.

>tcgo standard
>make inconsistent 1-shaymin-ex mega FUG deck
>get turbostomped

>trade 1 shaymin and fug package into FROG BREAK
>80%~ winrate over 40 games
>trashman 'counter' gets dumped on by lysander

this shuriken shit is cancer as fuck i tell u what

is decidueye GX able to pull these kinds of memes on people?

>>31705690
It takes 3 decidueye GX to match a single frog. Decidueye is less scared of disruption, but ninja is stronger in almost every other way.

>>31705718

you cant crank 1-3 BREAK frogs out before turn 3-4~ though, and decidooper has the fucking mountain of 240 hp thing going for him as a frontliner

playing frogs online feels fucking mean though, i haven't run into anything that straight fucks the deck outside of really REALLY bad draws

>>31705743

>really REALLY bad draws

That's the deck's biggest flaw. It has a superb endgame but getting there isn't always guaranteed.

It auto-loses against Garbodor/Walls - with Garbodor online and Glaceon up front there is literally nothing Greninja can do but pray for consecutive Lysandre. If you get multiple Garb up in one game, it's over.

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>>31705796

> but getting there isn't always guaranteed.

HELP

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>>31705823
>>31705796

fuck it

>ultra ball both BREAK
>super rod and 3rd BREAK not in prizes
>grab a dead ass talonflame
>420 yolo blaze
>lysander aggressively down into energy and frogadiers
>eventually rod back breaks into dive ball searches

you can't convince me that this deck isn't stupid as fuck if it can win off of hands like that

nobody plays glaceon walls, even giratina is sketch as hell right now since the meta is splashed with both greninjas and GX-types around every corner

>>31705850

>lysander aggressively

meant sycamore

that fucker is straight retarded if you blow your searches on dead cards to thin your deck count down to meat n taters

I don't know why but dicking around in PTCGO urged me to come back to the came after a... 10 year hiatus (jesus)

I bought the stuff for a Volcanion EX deck since that looks fun. Anything I should know?

>>31705951

4x babycanion
3x volcEX
2-3x Flareon EX
1-2x hoopa EX

rest of that is preference. some lists run shaymin, some lists dont even run hoopa

volcanion just wants to crap out hella damage and get its engine rolling, every list is different. some even run Entei

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New Roserade card when!?

I was under the impression that people did the "well played" thing only on first and last days of ladder, but I'm playing legacy right now and it happens 90% of the games.
It is great

What are everyone's usernames?

>>31703436
Isn't that only like 25 bucks
That's like 1/16 of a legacy land from MtG

>>31705466
There really should be age separations online
Being BTFO can't be good for the child/pre-teen Pokémon market

>>31706155
I played a match against someone with 08 in their username yesterday
I won

>>31703759
I have tried so many times with no success. Maybe just maybe, Lurantis can get round it's fucking disastrous energy requirement. But I feel like you'll just end up relying on Lurantis instead. GCC instead of GGC and this card might have had some low tier potential.

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>make a volcanion deck on tcgo

>paired against nothing but golduck meme engines and greninja copypastes

>>31705823
This hand looks great you mad fuck. One for active, one for bench in case of early KO. A balloon to attach to active. Thinning your deck of the Breaks you don't need yet (that you will rod back later when you do) to increase the chance of hitting the Frogadier & energies you want to find.

>>31707002

the fuck does volcanion ex do vs frog cancer besides auto-scoop

i've been durdled to death through shadow stitching with pokemon ranger in the fucking prize pocket three randoms in a row now

>>31707043
to be fair the abysmal frog meme matchup is basically the only thing keeping that deck in check.

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>>31704141
>My question is, why most people are using the Despair Ray variant? In my opinion is less consistent (even with Dragonite EX) because of Pararell City

Despair Ray Gard can consistently 2HKO and has prize denial. It can clear its bench of weakened Gardevoirs (if you do not OHKO them) and also of Lysandre bait such as Hoopa & Shaymin. With 210HP, not a lot of stuff can OHKO Gard, so you're trading 2HKOs with a deck that can deny 2HKOs.

PARALLEL City is largely irrelevant. 150-160 (if playing Fairy Garden) is not an important range to hit. 150-190 is somewhat more useful, but pretty much the only things you now OHKO are basic EXs and these will likely have a Fighting Fury Belt on (in which case you 2HKO regardless).

>>31705964

>3x volcEX

I just switched back to Volcanion after not using it for a while and run 4 Volcanion-EX to make sure I hit the big numbers. Is 3 the normal number played now?

>2-3x Flareon EX

Why? I always though that even as a x1 Flareon-EX was a bad inclusion. Why do people run multiples of it?

>>31707275

flareon's a mid/lategame bootyblasterthat can left field the fuck out of people, it's not uncommon to casually build 5-6 energies onto her by pure collateral over the course of a game.

i've been testing her ingame to great surprise, she's basically your personal Mega Y-Mewtwo in the event you aren't able to set up a clean cornholing with floaty volca-EX rotations

> Is 3 the normal number played now?

you rarely need more than 2, almost never need 3 and holy lmao what r u doin with life if you have 4 of them on the damn bench

you CAN run 4, but lists that roll shaymin for early badonking tend to cut down to 3 just to ensure a more probable start of having a different basic out in the field. it's mega badnews if volca-EX is your only basic, even more mega badnews if you have multiples of them early on with nothing to gas them up

the best card in the deck is low-key regular ass Volcanion, all of the discard outlets are basically built around him existing on the field at some point in the game (preferably very early on)

>>31707349

>you rarely need more than 2, almost never need 3 and holy lmao what r u doin with life if you have 4 of them on the damn bench

So you have never ever had a Volcanion-EX prized? You need 3 EXs on the bench to ensures you hit the magic numbers to OHKO Megas and Belted EXs. Playing with 3 when you need 3 is risky.

>it's mega badnews if volca-EX is your only basic

Yeah, if you play no switching cards. Always having the ability to switch out is one of the cornerstones of Volcanion. An EX start is bad, but not disastrous.

> Volcanion.........built around him existing on the field at some point in the game (preferably very early on)

I know. I have played Volcanion a lot.

>flareon's a mid/lategame bootyblaster

If you get to mid/late game and you can't win with Volcanions, you messed up m8. Flareon is redundant. Also:

>it's mega badnews if volca-EX is your only basic

was you argument against running 4 Volc-EXs, but you want to add 3 Flareons???

>>31707469

>You need 3 EXs on the bench

This was a typo. I meant 3 on the field. One can be active.

Though playing 4 and getting them all out does allow baby Volc to OHKO Megas and Belted EXs.

I want to meme to the max, which is the hot current meme?

I don't want to play tauros yet, it's too soon for that.

>>31707729
passimian, golduck, dustox/lurantis and eevee memes are the biggest new sm memes.

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>>31703581

Is it just me?????????????????

I still haven't received jack squat since the other day....

So I started lurking /vp/ following the release of Sun and Moon. Great games. I've stumbled upon this thread and it's captured my interest, especially when I saw that there's an iPad app.

I think I want to try it out. But I don't know exactly where to start. My experience with the TCG is limited to basically the TCG Gameboy games, which I played to death.

So, I've read the bin, and I'm not going to open tradeable boosters, but I honestly can't make heads or tails of the deck discussions on the forums. Should I just pick it up and start playing, then figure it out later?

>>31708047

Login bonuses run on a 5-day cycle. You only get a booster on the fifth day.

Click the Poké Ball that bounces around on the home screen to check where you are in the cycle.

>>31707469
Flareon count should not exceed 1. Salamence should also be included as a secondary attacker.

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>>31708134
On that note, when are things like daily rewards and login bonuses including SM packs?

I realised I have 3 packs left in the trainer challenge and don't want to waste them getting Evolutions

>>31697998
>Selection of Heads/Tails, starting player, active Pokemon and bench monsters
>Opponent's timer is sitting at 22.34

Brand new to the game, it had me do the tutorial before signing up. I got a Darkrai EX from my booster, and then I signed up.

Now it's making me do the tut again, so I assume I've lost that card.

On a scale of one to ten, how mad should I be?

>Got a Mewtwo vs Darkrai code as gift from a firend
>play mewtwo deck
>actually having wins in expanded

This is how cheap victory feels.

>>31708673

Enjoy while it lasts till other players's builds start running your ass over

>>31708673
>build a deck with good cards
>start to actually win games
>cheap victory
what did he mean by this

>>31708662
A little mad, but only about 2 packs worth of mad.

>>31708117
You start out just playing mostly premade Theme Decks anyway which are literally designed to be played by children, so you shouldn't have too much trouble. Once you get a good idea of how to play a few different decks go back to looking at some constructed decklists, read all the cards (this is the important part), then you should have a better grasp on what you'd be interested in picking up.

>>31708811
Okay. Here's hoping I get something even better from this booster to make up for it!

>>31706102
>>Isn't that only like 25 bucks
More like $310

>>31708117
Download the client, then start off just playing through the tutorials and get as many packs as you can that way. Then play Theme format for a while (including theme tourneys to win some actually tradable packs) on the ladder. But the sooner you can get out of theme and into Standard Format the better since it's really a totally different game. By this point you'll have a stockpile of cards from the locked packs, plus enough tradable packs to get you started on a legit deck. Most importantly, you'll be beginning to know your own style in the game and have some kind of idea of what deck you want to try to build. It will be shitty at first of course, but you slow-build your way up to a deck capable of winning more standard tourneys and getting more packs to trade. Or you can purchase codes. Or you can play the stock market/card profit flipping game.

Long story short in a week or so you'll have a much better idea of how to play, what you want to play exactly, and a little pile of tradable packs to get you started. This general can be pretty helpful so long as you don't come in pants-on-head retarded.

>>31708117
Here's what you need to know about deckbuilding in PTCG

1. You don't build around a color, you build around a pokemon (or two). Notice how nobody ever talks about red/blue/green decks outside of theme. Pick your primary attacker, then maybe a secondary attacker then a few pokemon that support them.

2. Majority of your deck should be trainers unless you have a really good reason for it not to (ie building around a pokemon like Vespiquen or Typhlosion). Generally, unless you have a reason to (running max elixir with pokemon with attacks that scale with energy usually) you shouldn't include more energy than you need to power two attackers at a time, there are items/trainers like super rod or brock that let you shuffle energy back into your deck that are less likely to be 'dead draws' than energy cards are.

Mandatory trainers for 99% of decks: 4 Sycamore, 2 N, 2 Lysandre, 4 Ultra Ball, 3-4 Trainer Mail, 4 VS Seeker

3. Notice what those cards, other than Lysandre do. They let you move through your deck faster. PTCG is a very draw/shuffle heavy game. Good decks have a 'draw engine', a way to move through your deck quickly to get the cards you need to win the game. Most decks use those mandatory supporters plus 2-3 Shaymin-EX. Greninja BREAK uses Dive Ball + Frogadier. A very small number of decks use niche options like Octillery or double lucky helmet.

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So what exactly is the practical use for this card? Or is it just a completely useless gimmick?

>>31708811
>theme decks are literally designed to be played by children
The whole game is literally designed to be played by children.

>>31708948

Counter dragonair decks maybe.

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>>31708948
Every set has a few shit trainers.

>>31708948
It's one of the best cards in the set, anon. Energy disruption is almost always powerful no matter what. TSG is especially powerful combined with other energy disruption like hammers because it creates a catch-22 situation where you can potentially remove energy from the field or from the hand.

>>31708699

that this is too easy to defeat opponent with turbo mewtwo y deck

>>31709044
>too easy
It's just Mewtwo anon. It's an okay deck.

New thread /when/?

>>31708948
>>31708983

If you use it at the right time you can literally just fucking win the game. Combine it with Gumshoos-GX so you can deploy it effectively and Enhanced Hammers to knock attached energies off. It's just cancer against 4 DCE decks.

>>31705457

malboro...

having nickname after cigarettes must be cancerous...

>>31709120
>>31709120
>>31709120
NEW THREAD

>>31707729
wait dustox/lurantis was a meme already? guess im not as original as i thought