/pmdg/ Pokémon Mystery Dungeon

Groundon is being a bitch in Rescue Team, are legendary recruitments set when you enter a dungeon?

>>31598497
No, but he's got a negative recruit rate so make sure your level's high enough to compensate for that.

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what's the official strategy for beating purity forest?

>>31598992
You can do it pretty consistently with Kecleon. Alakazam's alright but for the second half of the dungeon you've gotta run away from most fights.

>>31598497
Nope, but the size limit is also applied for recruiting in Rescue Team.

If you're buffed enough you can try get a Friend Bow.

>>31598992
In only remember beating it once with an Alakazam. It was so long ago, but I remember Teleport being important.

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>>31592529
>tfw RT questionable decisions
Rescue Team really needs a remake that brings mechanics up to at least Explorers' level.

>>31598992
Kec is a powerhouse and beware of Parasect

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cool

>>31599234
weren't a bunch of chucklefucks working on a PMD fan-game?

>>31599951
This is why you dont use Alakazam. Parasect and Venomoth are too deadly. It can be done but even if you get Pass/Warp Scarves you're just praying you dont warp into a room with either of them

>>31599951
It should be illegal to die that close to the end. The last ten floors of every dungeon should be barren.

>>31600073
to be fair it was my first time using alakazam and i found a pass scarf and like 10 big apples/max elixirs so it was fairly easy mode

i was going to recruit a kecleon at some point anyway, i guess i could do it now to get some use out of it

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Region: America
Got fucked up in purifying cave, could anyone please rescue me?

>>31600309
Can you pick which screen you screencap in Miiverse?

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>>31600309
>>31600478
Just as I said it I found it out.

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Thanks bro, here's a thank-you mail.

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>die in dungeon
>"it's okay, i didn't need those max elixirs"
>"i didn't even lose my friend bow"
>save game
>realise i lost the 80000 poké i was carrying

>>31601772
time to turn to a life of crime, anon

That toy guy is going to start posting again at 7 pm EST, right?

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you have been visited by the sleepy chespin of successful expeditions

successful zero isle attempts and gold bars will come to you, but only if you post "sleep tight chesper" in this thread

>>31601772
Same thing happened to me. Now I store any amount of Poké over 5000 in the bank in RT/Explorers and 1000 in Super.

>>31603095
sleep tight chesper

>>31602503
>the game will never randomly have strong Pokémon looking for you in dungeons because you became an outlaw

>>31603095
i want that plush

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>>31603095
sleep tight chesper

>>31600025
Yeah, but no signs of any further developmet.

>>31600073
Would 6 Parasect win against Drifloon?

>>31604440
All it takes it one Ominous Wind and they're done

Remember playing one where i fought a moltres when i was a kid, whats changed since then

>>31603512
>Kecleon will never permanently deny you service because you successfully stole from him once
>he'll never remind you of your place when you interact with him after a failed attempt

>>31604533
God and darkness.

>>31604533
now you can post about it in this thread

have fun!

>>31604553
mong

>>31604533
that was rescue team, the first game

>what changed?
Explorers of Time/Darkness improved menus
Gates to Infinity is a little different from the previous games, even if we ignore the things it lacks, but the differences didn't really carry over to Super. it also improved menus
Super added wands, looplets, emeras, changed the way you recruit pokemon and some other stuff

>>31604507
>implying they don't spore you first
was spore changed in GtI or super? i remember it being a sleeping move that hits entire room

>>31604533
Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky was the second game and greatly improved almost everything about Rescue Team - the game that you played.

Gates to Infinity made the switch the 3d models and is a mixed bag of huge improvements and major letdowns that ended up with it being considered the worst of the series despite having possibly the best story.

Super Mystery Dungeon is the most recent game and avoids the major shortcomings of Gates while maintaining most of the improvements, except in the story where the developers messed up the pacing.

If you're interested in possibly picking up the series again the advice you'll get here is to get Explorers of Sky and then Super.

Going to start over in super. First reply to this post picks my team for the story.

>>31605866
Chimchar and Riolu.

>>31604700
I miss the random missions from TDS (dunno if they did them in Gates, didn't play it) in Super.

It being just 'every mission is only to recruit pokemon' is kinda boring.

>>31606012
They did, but you could only do one at a time

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i had deleted this before cause i thought i figured it out but why do alliance moves work sometimes and sometimes not? is it because this guy has his back to a wall?

>>31606156
Your character must be facing the enemy.

And if any teammate is confused or paralyzed then the alliance won't work either.

>>31606180
oh derp, thanks

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>>31606190
When it works you just hit the button in the bottom screen.

>>31606156
I heard it's actually better if you use kit-kat. Have you tried it or is it just a meme?
i want a new 3ds too

>>31606303
Looking at it, it just seems like a wrapper for nitrostream with some other added stuff. it did auto detect my 3ds IP though which was neat.

>>31602588
Guess he's busy.

>>31599234
is there one of these for all the other games?

Alright, time to see how well Gates of Infinity runs on Citra.

>>31602588
>>31606726
Link me to the thread when it comes up. Or tell me what I should search for in OPs.

>>31607564
Probably /vpmd/

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Did I make him wait for too long?

>>31607179
Nope, at least none I am aware of.

Me and friend created this one, though honestly it's a bit incomplete.

i'm about to play Sky for the first time, what should I expect?

>>31610435
I honestly liked the 0.00001% recruit rate
Actually made me feel like I had achieved something compared to going into the grass and catching a pokemon 20 second later.

>>31610482
a nice game

>>31610482
Actually made me tear up a little.

>>31610483
The problem is not recruit rate. The problem is SPAWN rate.

Look, my friend's tips on Chansey? "Don't even bother. Just wish for it."

>>31610482
third version of time and darkness that is not a third version of time and darkness but rather a director's cut of time and darkness

>>31610524
so basically, a third version

Started Super Mystery Dungeon yesterday, already loving the characters and funny dialogue.

I miss being able to play as something other than starters + Pikachu + Riolu, though. I wanted to be a Skitty

>>31610561
get custom starters

>>31610502
>>31610505
Sounds great, can't wait to get balls deep into it then.
>>31610524
I never played Time/Darkness (or any mystery dungeon game for that matter), but thanks for the info.

>>31610576
should have started with blue rescue team instead
it might be hard to go back to

>>31610581
I'm usually pretty good at adjusting to older games so I doubt it.

>>31610593
Rescue Team lacks a lot of quality things.>>31599234
In Explorers, getting all Pokemon is a bit hard but it's mostly matter of time.

in Rescue Team, it's less "am I good enough to do it" and more "am I strong enough to not give up midway"

>>31610572
How? I have CFW

>>31610633
http://pastebin.com/cpnzZcyv

>>31610639
Thank you!

>>31610664
You're welcome!

>>31610639
Does this only change the models/portraits or does it also change the moves, abilities and stats accordingly?

>>31610695
The ability will fix itself at various points of the game. Stats and moves will be the ones your original Pokémon had at first, but stat growths and the moves they learn will be the ones of the Pokémon you choose.
The guide tells you how to edit any value in the RAM anyway, so if you want you can find out what stats and moves they're supposed to have at the start of the game, but I don't think it's really that important.
This also allows you to edit the species and name of the Pokémon you recruit, including story characters.

Does anybody have Quagsire's crying portrait from Gates?

>>31611295
>>31563561
This?

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>Kecleon asked to join in under 100 defeats on my first try.
I guess my shit luck with every other pokemon was funneled into this guy.

>>31603095
sleep tight chesper

How do you like to roleplay your character? What is your headcannon on your player?

>>31614354
>What is your headcannon on your player?
It's me.

>>31614354
I don't roleplay at all. I don't even name my character after myself.

>>31615650
Isn't that what you're supposed to do?

>>31614354
I am playing for my first time in PMD and I don't RP.
There's too much context unknown to me and I don't like when headcannon clashes with given data.
Did they drop ur a hoomin in Gates/Super?

>>31615851
No, it's a small but important plot point in Gates and a minor one in Super.

>>31615833
I figured if he was even asking that he was expecting something different.

>>31614354
I don't really headcanon.

>>31615851
you can do it in rt
you're supposed to do it in gti
it makes no sense in explorers
it's irrelevant in super

>>31614354
It's just me.

>>31617746
actually let me correct myself. it doesn't reallu make sense in super either

>>31617746
it was a little cheesy, but I really liked gti's use of the 3ds cameras on the title screen when you first start it up

>>31617827
That was Super

>>31617847
are you sure? I'm pretty sure it was gates

>>31617860
Yep, I'm sure
GtI used the camera in the magnagate thing

>>31615851
In GTI is super important for key points in the story
In Super it's brought a lot in the beginning but ends up being irrelevant

Sort of a fun fact that's kind of a spoiler for GTI
They actually ''killed'' some humans in pokemon form in GTI

>>31618074
Imagine all those humans who never found anybody willing to help them out, wandering alone in the cold and bitter world until Munna and her gang picked them off.
Really makes you appreciate Gates' partner.

>>31618393
>one turns into a Hoppip
>literally too light to stay in one spot
>blows around for a day or so until Kyurem gets pissed

You have zero seconds to defend PP Zero Traps
Pro-tip: You can't

>>31618653
They're cancer and losing 100% of the PP is far too much. 50% of the current total would be more acceptable

>>31618393
That if Kyurem didn't find them first and stomp them to death
>Really makes you appreciate Gates' partner.
GTI's partner is the best PMD partner, the little fucker buys a huge land for itself and then make it's own exploration society

Guys I'm using the Mega app, and can't figure out how to work it. Can someone explain please?

Finally recruited Kecleon, now time for Purity Forest. Wish me luck anons

>>31619178
May God have mercy on your soul

>>31619178
Good luck, anon. Remember to keep a spare Chesto Berry on you at all times.

>>31619221
I just found one.
>sticky Cleanse Orb
>sticky Big Apple
pls no

>>31618074
I mean, technically all they did was send them back. Of course it was still probably quite painful.

>>31619262
To send them back they had to destroy their bodies, since just faiting isn't enough.
spoiler Also Kyurem way to send you back was stomping you to death

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Well, I guess they did in GtI first.

Does anyone know if evolving in Slumbering Cave or other level-reset dungeons is permanent?

>>31619061
Guys please, I want to play and this app is shit

>>31619535
You mean Sky Editor?

>>31619541
No, I'm using Mega. It wouldn't let me access the files without it

>>31619602
That's, uh, not supposed to happen. Why can't you just use it from the browser?

>>31619602
Dont download via Megasync, download through browser

>>31619626
I'm not very good with technology, but it might have to do with the fact I'm a mobile poster. I'd use a computer, but I don't have one

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>>31619680
Won't let me

>>31619707
>mobile

There's your problem

Started replaying GTI yesterday and I didn't realize how much I love some of these characters. SIR Quagsire, Emolga, and especially Scrafty are all amazing.

>>31619734
Who are you playing as?

>>31619725
Well can I still play it?

>>31619763
Yes, but the emulator you'd download from there is for Windows. Just get the game elsewhere and use another DS emulator

>>31619778
Oh ok. Thanks I guess

>>31619740
Axew and Oshawott. Axew seems ridiculously strong and I tried messing with Magnagates this time around and managed to pick up an Ice Beam TM for Oshawott before level 10.

My first playthrough I went with Snivy and Pikachu which ended up being kind of terrible because grass sucks in GTI and Pikachu is pretty weak.

>>31619241
>>31619178
On 50th floor now. Quicksaved at some point and took a break so I wasn't playing the whole time. Got a good supply of Big Apples and Max Elixers, and got a Pecha Scarf early on. Even a few Joy Seeds and a lucky +3 Ginseng. It's looking good right now but who knows. Oh and Warp Seeds too. No scarf though.

>>31619518
I ask because I am around Floor 60 in Slumbering Cave, and only managed to get there after evolving my starters in the dungeon... But I don't want to finish it and have them stay that way.

>>31607564
>>31618048

>>31620607
>already 205 posts in
I wish I noticed
Thanks though.

>>31620343
Hit 80F
>one Max Elixir left

>>31619310
Wait, so dying in the Pokemon world just sends you back to the human world? I never played GTI, so that's news to me if it's true.

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>>31620884
I died
F
Parasect got me. And I only had normal moves to combat ghosts since I got rid of Thief for Attract.

pic related if you want to save me.

>>31620937
Apparently. It only makes sense in GtI and RT though.

>>31620992
Why does it only make sense in those games? Is there something about the specific way the characters in those games are killed that causes them to get sent back to their world? Or do you mean it's just a simple plot device in those games, and doesn't appear at all in the other two?

>>31621031
In Explorers and Super you weren't brought in the Pokémon world from the human world to begin with.

>>31621051
Oh right, I forgot about that.
Actually, wait, I thought you really were from the human world in Super? Or maybe it actually was left ambiguous, and I forgot about it. It's been so long since I played it I easily could have forgotten these things.

>>31620973
I told you about those Chesto Berries bro

Anyway, I'll give it a shot. I guarantee nothing though.

>>31621095
Ok heavy spoilers for super here
In super you're some sort of reincarnated human from the past, where mew and you fought against Dark matter, and were reborn at this time to stop Dark matter again, that's why when you finish the game you don't have to leave

>>31620937
As I recall it's worded in such a way that the soul/spirit returns to the human world, but if you're looked for darker interpretation, it's not specified that they turn back into humans. In the end, you have to be sent back to the human world directly by the one responsible for changing you in the first place, so it's debatable whether or not the ones that got killed actually returned to their lives in the human world or did whatever spirits do.

>>31621095

It's a little unclear with the intro using the 3DS camera to imply the player is being called to help (or whatever the intro sequence was), and then beginning the game at what would technically be the midpoint in the overall story. The story says that the player character was already in the poké world with the partner in their previous lives before they sent their spirits forward in time.

>>31621312
I remembered the reincarnation thing, I just thought you came from the human world originally too. Maybe I was wrong, then.

>>31621340
>second spoiler
The same goes for Explorers.

>>31621051
>>31621095
Hell if I know. I don't like it when the game says "I" did this stuff, apparently, when I don't even get to play that part. Not that I think I should anyways, since I like keeping your identity hidden for insertion reasons.

>>31614354
In Explorers, I like to imagine that my character does things that even he questions, but does it anyways because "his momma didn't raise no pussy"

At Waterfall Cave, I was a Charmander who was reckless enough to jump into a waterfall that will not only slap my shit and give me hypothermia, but if I fuck up, the jagged rocks will help kill me. I jumped in anyways because the illness-induced visions that caused me to get an innocent Drowzee arrested says that there's treasure behind the waterfall. I nearly drowned three times that day, but I think that it helped me in the end because later on in my life I swam to the bottom of the sea and got an egg out of the deal.

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Hey, I found Tornadus

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But it didn't join me

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>>31620973
Kecleon ended up really underlevelled since I rushed the dungeon, but I found a Warp Scarf so everything turned out okay. Good luck with those last few floors.

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>>31621608

>>31620500
I just hard reset. I'll test this with another copy of the game sometime.

What does "evolves by leveling up after opening up to the team" mean in GtI? At first I thought it meant they had to use a Team Attack, but it didn't work, so I thought they needed to level up while being able to use a Team Attack, but that doesn't seem to work either.

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Keys are really rare, I'm glad that if you upgrade the Detour Guide it eventually starts selling them.
Well, this was the last Detour Guide upgrade too. I was hoping for one more, even though I don't actually know what it might have added. Maybe a list of Pokémon you can find or something.

>>31622042
In Super Return seems to do more when used by Pokémon I've used more often. So try carrying them around while you get stuff done.

does super not have a mission cleared music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4M_OoSRLY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KLoXxMs2D0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUXeGD9TxI

>>31622042
I think Team Attacks increase a value that replaced IQ for purposes of evolution and Return/Frustration.

You may need to use it more.

>>31618653
>PP-Zero
>not grudge
PP-Zero are more of annoyance.

Grudge traps can go fuck themselves.

Also, probably Random traps, too.

>>31623587
No, since there aren't any rewards after you connect with the client is goes straight to the guild eating dinner.

>>31623620
Yeah, but, huh, I don't think it was used that way in RT either. They could have had the during a dialogue or something. Too bad it isn't there

>>31623587
One of the unused tracks sounds similar to it.
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon:_Red_Rescue_Team_and_Blue_Rescue_Team#Unused_Music

So, what do you think Z-Moves will be in PMD?

A free, one-time use 'get out of jail' card?

>>31623660
If they keep Looplets it'll probably be like the awakening emera. A power boost and if the pokemon is Z compatible it gets the move.

>kyuujotai
>rescue team
>equipo de rescate
>equipe de secours

>team
>squadra
this is a little annoying

>>31623660
I think they'll be like Team Attacks in Gates, and charge up over time.
Or maybe Z-crystals will be a type of emera which you can activate to use a Z-move, but it disappears afterwards.

>>31623687
>team attacks are retconned into z-moves
what now
>>31623679
The thing is, everybody gets Z-Moves, unlike with Mega Evolution.

I remember reading a hot fapfic about Team Charm getting raped in a monsterhouse.
Anybody else remember it?

>>31623806
Just play their special episode for a reenactment.

>>31623793
everybody gets awakening as well though

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>when there's a detour nearby

>>31624005
>if the pokemon is Z-compatible

>>31624021
>When tunnel wands
Delicious.

>>31621622
>wanting that abomination on your team to begin with

>>31624462
I'm just trying to recruit everyone

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Nice. I heard about it in these threads, so I was waiting for it. Apparently you can only choose a Pokémon out of the ones the game randomly chose when creating a facility though. I'm wondering in what ways they limited it.

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Is there anything interestnig to do in EoS after defeating Darkrai?

>>31624939
100%ing.

I've finished literally everything in Super except for the three level 1 dungeons for which I simply was too scared to attempt. I wonder why I'm missing 18 connections even though I have no missions left and have completed all dungeons besides these three.
Though I have a question: Does the moveset reset to the level 1 moveset upon entering the dungeon? Do you gain new moves when levelling up?
Doing Temple Remains first, might post SOS requests in case I fail.

>>31625162
>Does the moveset reset to the level 1 moveset upon entering the dungeon? Do you gain new moves when levelling up?
Yes and yes. As for the missing connections, did you find all the roaming pokemon? There's also no way you could have gotten Arceus without everybody else.

>>31625202
Ah, that makes me much more comfortable picking random mons for the job. No need to fiddle with movesets.

I never clained to have gotten Arceus (he's in a level 1 dungeon, and 99 floors, to top it off) and yes, I have all the roaming mons. I lack: Arceus, Beartic, Budew, Carbink, Caterpie, Dewott, Jigglypuff, Magby, Marill, Ratatta, Riolu, Roselia, Servine, Staraptor, Teddiursa, Typhlosion, Ursaring, Wooper.

>>31625262
>(he's in a level 1 dungeon, and 99 floors, to top it off)
It's not a level 1, just 99 floors.

>>31625351
Oh? I guess I misremembered.

>>31625262
You can get a few of those by talking to people in Serene Village. The rest are either connected to them or in cafés.

>>31624939
Getting the Master Rank.

>>31621608
Can't believe the world was saved by a crazed Pokemon claiming to be a human and his pushover of a partner.

Not PMD but what do i name my male Tirtouga?

>>31626972
Pops

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ded

>>31626972
Did you really expect any answer other than Pops?

>>31626452
And he's from the future where the sun doesn't shine.
And this was somehow all started thanks to a rookie Bidoof's wish.

Speaking of which, why would Snowver and his gang try to mug Bidoof? Wouldn't it be assumed that Bidoof would stash his money somewhere and not take it with him in the dungeon? Or is Bidoof unwise enough to bring along something that is valuable but not very useful in a dungeon?

>>31628469
I can't say i did

>>31628657
Bidoof's probably dumb enough to bring most of, if not all, of his wealth to a dungeon.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAADAAB2V0etjbzpZQ
what did chunsoft mean by this

>>31629442
Hold on, what? Is it because of the way it evolves? Does the option always pop up for Shedinja or only when you first evolve it?

>>31629526
I am not sure, I haven't reached point where I bother evolving Nincada.

Probably because of the way you get Shedinja, it gets the nickname option.

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>>31629526
Seems like the option disappears once you give it a name.
It's cool that they thought of that, though.

>finally catch up on the /vpmd/ threads
>expected dumb adventures
>get Tepig trying to mount Oshawott at every opportunity instead
L-Lewd.

>>31630706
Is there a next one yet?

>>31630764
Just scanned the catalog. Nothing yet, but I'm keeping my eyes peeled.

I always heard that GTI was the worst of the mystery dungeon games, but assumed that those claims were made based on some lackluster story, having never played the game myself.
Still playing Super, but I am curious as to what people actually think.
>>31630764
>>31630814
He's taking the day off to play digimon, from what I heard.

>>31631199
>were made based on some lackluster story
It's the other way around. Unless you want a story like Super or Explorers

The problem with GtI is being incomplete and lacking content. It has some nice ideas that are underdeveloped too. The story is fine.

>>31631199
It's actually quite the opposite; GtI suffers from lackluster gameplay and a lot of missing features, but the story and characters might be some of the best in the series. After playing GtI for the first time recently I don't get the meme that it should be outright avoided. As a sequel to Sky it's pretty disappointing, but on its own it's still a decent game with a story well worth the time.

>>31631199
>but assumed that those claims were made based on some lackluster story
Where did you hear that?, most people who have played GTI agree that it has one of the best stories in PMD if not the best.
People shit on GTI because it has mostly only gen V mons, you only have 5 pokemon to choose for MC and partner, has slow text that can't be speeded and it's kinda easy.
If you have some free time and spare cash buy it and play it, or just watch a let's play of it for the story

>>31631425
>most people who have played GTI agree that it has one of the best stories in PMD if not the best.
To be fair, this is the only place where I hear this opinion. When I go elsewhere I always see people complaining about GtI, but they can't even explain what they don't like about it, and they generally DO complain about story. When they start talking about it though most of the time they don't even know what they're talking about.

>People shit on GTI because it has mostly only gen V mons, you only have 5 pokemon to choose for MC and partner, has slow text that can't be speeded
Yeah. I feel like most people just stop when they see that. They don't get to the point where they can see the other problems with the game and the few actually nice things it did.

>>31631383
>It has some nice ideas that are underdeveloped too.
I'm so salty that they removed so many good things from GTI in Super PMD
>No V-Wave
>No base building
>No co-op challenge battles
>No Mysteriosity

and the fact that they totally ruined leveling moves by making them not even noticeable is also pretty frustrating.

>>31631387
>I don't get the meme that it should be outright avoided.
Where did that even came from?, i see so many people saying that you should avoid GTI at all cost like it was sonic 06 levels of bad, i wonder if those people even went past an hour into the game or they just ragequitted immediately after seeing that they can't play as riolu?

>>31600000

>>31631826
what are you doing?

>>31631826
why did you post this

>>31631899
>>31631923
he probably wanted to check who got that post number

>>31632001
It was 10 hours ago and it's in an archived thread, so we can't even go and say grats to the fucker, it's totally pointless to post that now.

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>tfw just played through In the Future of Darkness for the first time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1iMQJeroTA

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***SPOILER TERRITORY POSSIBLE FOR THOSE WHO HAVENT FINISHED ALL OF THE GAMES***

>tfw you did PMD lore thinking in the shower
>GTI confirmed that on each "mission" more than one human can be called in to save the Pokemon world.
>Every time you disappear its been a yellow orb
>Rescue team made it seem based on you were chosen
>Explorers was based off of you being a small resistance team
>Super had it be a reunion mission to be completed later on
>Each time you are called its some ominous source
>Rescue left it vague, it was assumed to be Arceus
>GTI had it as "The Voice of Life" who took on Hydreigon as a form
>In super "The Voice" retains his form
>Previous pokemon from the guild in explorers mention the guild either went out of business or was closed down
>Previous pokemon from post town say the town is still active, perhaps the Pokemon Paradise is still active as well
>All humans in all games are assumed to continue their missions-post main story and epilogues and live out their lives as Pokemon.
>Hydreigon mentions its unheard of for this to happen
>Gardevoir isn't even a legendary but there is one particular Gardevoir who guides the human in rescue team
>Only ghost-types are seen in the "empire" that runs dark-earth in future explorers
>Super's enemy is commanded by Yveltal who reckons that he and the other pokemon should blow up the world because Dark Matter is the negative emotions of all
>Rescue is the world blows up by meteor
>Explorers is that time stops via collapse of temporal tower and covers it in darkness
>GTI is that the world becomes frozen over because everyone is an asshole to each other
>Super is that the earth hits the sun because everyone's an asshole again
>Rock
>Dark
>Ice
>Fire

TLDR: I was going somewhere with this but theres some over arching narrative we don't know about and the Magna Gates had awesome potential

>>31632644
they're all different universes, the most obvious way to notice this is how in Super mystery dungeon you can see and visit every part of that world, yet there's no wigglytuff's explorers guild nor Pokemon Paradise.

>>31632838
You just can't visit the towns those places are located in. I'm pretty sure some of the guild mates that cameo in super reference the guild in some way or another.

>>31632838
>the universe where the world was never threatened by the absence by the time gears
>the universe where the world was never threatened by deoxys's meteor
>the universe where the world was never threatened by the end of hope, or negativity

I can see the magna gates being a way to enter all the different 'verses.

I'm personally sad that the games besides that hydreigon bit never recognize you as the human that saved the world several times, but having them all be separate, it makes sense.

>>31633266
Munna is probably the only one that mentions "bad past actions" as far as I recall (as well as maybe ninetales or absol about a human?)
Perhaps most of the world was mostly unaware of crisis-es on other continents, and only before super they connected. Thus began the end of hope - as everyone realizes how many times the world has tried to end...

Entei has a SECOND part to his bos battle? I already used up all my wands and blast seeds, but I'm also evolved.
What do?

>>31633304
>I'm personally sad that the games [spoiler...] never recognize you as the human that saved the world several times, but having them all be separate, it makes sense.
Considering that there are cases where the human is from the future, and we don't know if they are also outsiders or native; and the human previously fought Dark Matter in the past, I am not sure how all those scenarios could be played out by the same human.

I would find it to be interesting if your character is actually not human, but has your conscience, skills, and memory because of some dimensional bullshit. It explains why the player has limited influence over the protagonist's personality. The post-game is about finding out about your character's origins and how all this happened, and what you (the player) has done in the story.

>>31633477
Evolved form makes it easy as a fuck, I just spammed attacks.

>>31632838
>they're all different universes
I thought it was like that before Super as well
but the second part of your post is wrong. Super makes direct references to all of the other games. You meet the characters from RT, Explorers, AS and GtI.

>>31632838
Doesnt the Wigglytuff in Rescue Team go "Yoom-tah" when doling out friend areas? Even before Super at least Rescue Team and Explorers were linked even if the latter never really recognized the former outside of that line. How else would that be explained?

>>31620973
I thought wireless shut down along with main games years ago?

>>31633304
>>31633266
>>31633657
>>31633709
Those like other people have said, are cameos, just little pieces of candy for veteran players to make them remember the old games, and as such they're not canon in any way.
After all, none of the actual characters of SMD refers to any of the event in the older games or older characters.

>>31633759
Wifi can shut down, but passwords are forever.

>>31633791
>thing that appears in the game that you can interact with isn't canon
lol, ok

>or older characters
yes it does
that's exactly the point

>>31633709
I honestly think it's more likely they recycled Wigglytuff's personality in Explorers without really thinking about it
The Super being connected to all of the other games feels like an afterthought

>>31633791
Are the "other people" that say they aren't canon just because they aren't reference in the main plot people who worked on the game, or just random literal who's of no significance who share your opinion?

>>31633791
Ninetales and Absol do.

>>31633856
As another example, so does the Armaldo you can connect with; he references Igglybuff the Prodigy, proving he's the same Armaldo as the one in Explorers

>>31633835
>>31633846
Are the event of Explorers or GTI canon for SMD?, do you ever hear about Temporal tower or the bittercold from any of the SMD characters?
what i mean is that those characters are in there just for funsies.

>>31633944
That's definitely the reason, but if they are there there's no reason to assume it's another universe where the other games didn't happen. It's clear they're the same character (unlike the RT/Explorers Wigglytuff situation).

>>31633971
>but if they are there there's no reason to assume it's another universe where the other games didn't happen.
Except for the part where this world is divided by continents with names and you can check the global map and see that the other games regions aren't there.

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>>31634019
Have you actually looked at the map? The lower right continent is exactly the same as Explorers' map. You can probably do this with the other games, too.

>>31634019
>other games regions aren't there.
>half the continents are literally copy pasted from previous games
Are you Australian?

>>31634019
Take a better look

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>>31634067
>You can probably do this with the other games, too.
You can indeed. The Air Contintent is from RT, and the Mist Continent is from GTI.

>>31631199
GTI is basically incomplete and lacks content, specifically any notable post-game, which is what a lot of fans really appreciate about PMD.

Pros:
Great story - probably my favorite of the four games.
Amazing soundtrack, though I think a lot of it was reused for Super.
Small cast of core characters that are very well developed.
Major combat improvements over previous games.

Cons:
No real post-game.
Small number of pokemon species. This makes recruiting unsatisfying and makes dungeons feel stale as you see repeats constantly.
Slow text. This isn't that bad on a first playthrough where you care what's being said, but the game is dialogue heavy and it makes things drag on.
Dungeon generation feels a lot less random. You often see what look like repeated chunks of dungeon layout on different floors.
The main gimmick of the game, building a town by creating various shops around your home, is somewhat lacking. It fails to draw you in and isn't really engaging because it's filled with nobody npcs running the shops and isn't important to the story.
They had the balls to include DLC dungeons in an incomplete game.


I'm sure there's more minor points for both sides, but if you just want the story and have the money for it, it's a great game.

>>31634106
Even if you do, it's kind of a shame there's absolutely no reference to previous events in general. That kind of makes you wonder if they took place at all. So, even if it's the same world, it may not be the same dimension.

>>31634106
I kinda hope that the next game takes place on the sand continent but it probably won't happen

>>31634401
It would be the obvious choice, since it's the only continent without a game tied to it. RT has Air, Explorers has Grass, GTI has Mist, Super has... well, all of them, but mainly Water. Still, they might choose to just ditch the map and make a game in a new setting entirely.

So is the Grovyle in Super the same one or not?

>>31634453
He could be if you want him to.

>>31634453
The real problem is that the Wigglytuff in Super is a female, but the one in Explorers is ambiguous but leans towards masculine.

>>31634504
>the Wigglytuff in Super is a female
That's only a thing in one sentence in the English translation. It was a mistake.

>>31634504
I'm pretty sure Wigglytuff is confirmed male in Explorers. And as for the gender switch in Super, I just assume it was a mistake by the writers. It's the simplest explanation.

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I found this http://newb.tistory.com/74 and sent him an email asking if he still has the Gold Rescue Team demo. I hope he understands English, or that Google Translate is good enough. Or at least better than what it translates it back to.

>Have you found a more exciting series?
>I am English trash.

>>31635823
RIP anon.

>>31634106
>that triangle between air and grass
w h a t
illuminati deoxys confirmed?

>>31634106
does anybody map in this resolution without the text?

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>>31636227

>>31600488
Anyone feel like rescuing me?
Temple Remains 17F
Europe

I had a revive-all orb I wasn't able to use. Would love to be able to finish this without needing to loose my prosper looplets... Reviver seeds/elixirs are appreciated.

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>>31636704
Wrong quote and forgot pic... Great.

>>31636162
wha5 did he mean by this

>>31637145
slow bump

>>31634106
>>31636384
Have we every actually seen the sand continent before?

>>31618787
>Partner initially didn't want to summon you back because he'd be ripping you away from your friends and family back home
Gates partner is best partner

>>31638407
I feel like the Adventure Squad games probably took place there.

>>31636201
That's where you find the regis in Super iirc.

>>31638489
>the megalixir from WiiWare still hasn't returned
rip megalixir, too precious/
It's called PP All or something like that, and restores PP to entire party (d'oh). The model looks like Max Elixir's, but larger.

>>31636710
eurofag on the way

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>>31639306

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>Alomomola used Wide Guard!
>Wide-ranging moves won't affect Zangoose!
>Alomomola used Healing Wish!
>Zangoose was protected by Wide Guard!
huh

>>31639338
Good luck, anon. So why Meowstic?

>>31639538
Please post the code. My cameras are broken.

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>>31639597
Oh, sure

>>31639610
>80 characters
The fuck they are sending via those, Tetris.exe?

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>>31639610
Thanks!
I picked meowstic because I have no clue what kind of mons are good in level 5 dungeons. Picked it pretty randomly because I like espurr.

>>31639694
It's fucking tedious to input, that's for sure.

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I guess I'm doing this now

>>31639900
Please link. This looks entertaining af. Good work with the camera angles btw.

>>31639717
>because I like espurr
That's a good a reason as any, though what you generally want is ranged moves, room-hit moves, or high-bp attacks early on. Heatran, Suicune, Rotom-W/F, for example.
Or Unburden.

>>31640031

>>31587365
>>31587365
>>31592401
>>31592401
>>31618048
>>31618048

>>31640031
>Good work with the camera angles btw.
I'm not them, just an anon archiving the thread

>>31640111
These threads are pretty awesome, tho

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>>31641575
Too bad I won't be around to participate in the next one.

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>>31639900
Will you include all the lewd stuff in part 2?

>>31641965
Why wouldn't he?

>>31641843
Sorry, m8.

If there's an afterlife, hope you get there safely.

>>31642074
I don't think he means he's dying.
But we can ask him.

>>31641843
Are ya kickin' a bucket, senpai?

>>31599234
Edit note to whoever made this, on the 3rd line of the first bullet, it says "A total of Pokemon are exclusive to either of the level 1 dungeons."

I think a number is supposed to go in front of pokemon.

Neat image tho

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>>31641965
wouldn't be my favorite part without it

>>31642151
Huh, I didn't expect a picture that big to send.

>>31642151
Aaay, thanks.

>>31642191
what?

>>31642126
Worked it out to be 41 plus Jirachi and Celebi. That feels about right.

>>31642365
The picture's filesize is unusually bigger than what's normally posted, so I assumed that it'd hit a filesize limit or something and wouldn't go through. Guess I worried for nothing.

>>31640111
>>31642151
>>31639900
HAPPENING
>>31642681

>>31642735
Thanks for the heads up.

>all those gets for the most lewd acts
I almost feel bad for VPMDanon. Almost.

>>31644150
I would feel bad if it weren't me getting them.

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>made a suggestion to steer the thread away from Oshawott
>Wooper ends up becoming the victim instead
what have I done

>>31644593
senpai was unphased by my quints

>>31644593
Wooper is the one doing the deed to tepig, actually

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>genuinely want things to go okay
>people keep lewding it up and bullying wooper

>>31644670
i'm sorry for ruining your thread with the shenanigans, if its any consolation i was giggling like a school girl while doing so.

>>31644670
Heya anon, glad you like the screencaps. I'm half-working on the 3rd one while trying to keep up with the new thread. Best of luck trying to move the plot with everyone so intent on lewd.

>>31644670
Hopefully he'll come back someday.

>>31644790
Thank you so much for doing those! The layout is perfect, gives much better timing to the text and pictures. I'm gonna try and get us to plot someday!

>>31644790
You're gonna have your hands full with the new one.

>>31642411
4 MB and/or 10,000x10,000 is the maximum I think.

>>31645193
Yup

>>31637145
I meant that if you haven't already found it in 99% of cases you are fucked.

>>31645750
Well, I haven't seen anyone asking koreans, and koreans are more likely to have it so, uh, I can still hope.

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>>31645770
I had a quick look yesterday for it and after a lot of searching I saw someone post on a wiki in january that they were hoping someone had it and they said they couldn't speak Korean. RIP anon.

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>>31642074
>>31642104

No, I was just busy with other things.

>>31644670
vpmd in a nutshell.

>>31645804
;_;

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>>31645193
>Size: 4.11 MB

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nvm fixed

Do the PMD developers talk about the games at all? I'm sure it'd all be in moonspeak, but it'd be interesting to hear them talk about design choices and their feelings about the series.

>>31647255
I don't think they did apart from a few official interviews.
Or at least that's what has been translated. It'd be definitely nice if there was more though.

>>31638407
>>31638489
Where would you place the dungeons? Like the chocolate ones?

You've had a great adventure today!
You should rest before you play more.

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Oh, right. The flowers are the field itself.
It's cute though, even if I wasn't expecting it to be a minor detail. Also, the colours are limited in this case, you can only have red, blue and yellow (if I remember correctly, I don't want to check to make sure right now).

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This is a Pure Field. I didn't know this could happen.

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>>31639610
:D

I never played any mystery dungeon game but I like pokemon and JRPGs
I have a hacked 3DS,should I get PSMD?I only played a little bit of the DS ones when my R4 worked

>>31648433
You might as well try it if you can do it for free. PSMD's got the best gameplay of the bunch but its story has a couple of issues

>>31648433
Yes. It'd be better if you played BRT and EoS first, but starting with Super is fine, even though you won't get the references to the old games which it's full of

>>31647175
You're doing gods work anon

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How come you never visit the village anymore?

>>31650399
you ca go back anytie

boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/31642681

Can someone screencap this? I don't know how to.

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>>31650399
Because i maxed out the stats of my main 4, i dont need Sky Peak anymore

>>31598351
Which one of these can I play on PC?

>>31652086
Technically all of them. Desmume for BRT/EoS, Dolphin for Adventure Squad, and Citra for the 3ds ones. Citra is still a work in progress, so if you have a 3ds you're better off hacking it and downloading the games that way

Also, we need a new thread

>>31652111
Wait, so actual non-meme 3DS emulation is possible? Is it slow as shit with only 2GB Ram?

>>31652132
Citra barely even works on good PC's. If you have 2gb of ram in this day and age, i doubt it'd even work. Desmume may or may not work for you for the DS ones, it's not a graphically intensive game.

>>31650812
I tried to do it automatically, every extension crashed and i dont have the patience to do it manually.

>>31652504
>every extension crashed
huh?

>>31652511
every chrome extension that i tried that captures the entire webpage as an image crashed when it tried doing its job.

>>31652132
The most important detail for playing with citra is to have a strong 1 core processor, because it can't use more than one, so if you have a processor that is above 3.0 it should work ok

>>31652549
Are you sure you can't do it without an extension? I know you can in Firefox

>>31652549
Do it manually with screen captures and paint, it will be time consuming but it will work

>>31652577
What is this, some third world country? Snipping Tool.

>>31652606
just saying, sometimes you just gotta go back to basics if you wanna get things done

>>31652572
>>31652577
I know i can do it manually, you missed the part where I don't have the patience to do it manually.

new thread

>>31653990
>>31653990
>>31653990